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Popular reality TV star Attorney Tiffani Hawes is ready to discuss life after "Ladies Who List as she delivered great social media and career advice. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm so excited to get this interview started.
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Speaker 1: My guess it's a very popular reality TV star, Attorney
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Speaker 1: Tiffany Halls. Attorney Halls is ready to discuss her life
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Speaker 1: after ladies who list the reality so she started, but
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Speaker 1: her real life skills as a legal expert or her
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Speaker 1: real superpower as hashtag everybody's favorite closing attorney, as well
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Speaker 1: as new life pursuits. We discussing at all because I
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Speaker 1: hadn't had it on the show in two years, and
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Speaker 1: she was supposed to come back really really quick, but
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Speaker 1: two years later, maybe really really quick to her. We're
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Speaker 1: going to discuss that matter. We're going to trust some
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Speaker 1: marriage family entrepreneurship. Let's talk about the Halls Law firm,
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Speaker 1: which is committed to complete and integrit and servicing their clients.
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Speaker 1: They specialize. This is the Halls Halls Laws might at
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Speaker 1: h Awe S. Tiffany Halls her law firm in real
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Speaker 1: estate closing a home, loan closing, refinanced closing, real estate
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Speaker 1: contract review, and title insurance matters, which if you know,
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Speaker 1: when you buy a house, that's that whoa whoa whoa
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Speaker 1: big old stack of papers they give you the sign.
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Speaker 1: She'll be sharing with us her multi millionaire success secrets
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Speaker 1: and specific tips on how she built her law practice
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Speaker 1: from scratch to multiple seven figures and she did it
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Speaker 1: all on social media as to well, she's been telling
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Speaker 1: us for years how to do this. Now you're gonna
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Speaker 1: come on Money Making Conversations and tell us because she been.
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Speaker 1: If you follow on social media, you know she's telling
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Speaker 1: the truth. Please welco with the Money Making Conversations, Master
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Speaker 1: Life Attorney, Tiffany Halls. How you doing?
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Speaker 3: I am good? How are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Two years? Tiffany? Two years? Two years?
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Speaker 3: Two years? Is doing? Over me? With everything going on.
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Speaker 1: In the interview was a fan fantastic We hit it off,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, because you have I'm a big
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Speaker 1: fan of yours, you know, because I love it with
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Speaker 1: individuals you know who have these multi lifetime when they multilifestyle.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're married, you're acting, you you're on TV,
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Speaker 1: and then you have to deal with other legal issues,
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Speaker 1: which is like a multitude of hats. You're an entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: you employ people, you know, your roade Eye, COVID and
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Speaker 1: all those things, and so you not coming back on
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Speaker 1: the show immediately, didn't It's just a tease because I'm
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Speaker 1: such a big fan of yours. How are you doing?
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Speaker 3: I am good and thank you so much your show
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Speaker 3: and your people, your audience even when we did the
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Speaker 3: show two years ago, reached out to me after the show.
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Speaker 3: So I am happy to be back and I'm just
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Speaker 3: glad that you're here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, well let's get out of the way. How can
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Speaker 1: how can my audience reach out to your contact you
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Speaker 1: for your services as a lawyer.
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Speaker 3: Well, definitely, I am on the Internet and all aspects,
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Speaker 3: so I am on all social media platforms. Tiffany Hawes,
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Speaker 3: that's Tiffany with an eye. You can find my business
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Speaker 3: the Hawes Law Firm website www dot Thehaws Law Firm,
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Speaker 3: dot com and any which of those ways you're able
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Speaker 3: to get in contact with me, right, and.
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Speaker 1: So getting contacted you there's always I remember when I
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Speaker 1: interviewed your first time, it's always when you are a person,
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Speaker 1: you know, just reality shows, because reality shows kind of
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Speaker 1: push the envelope and you're a true professional. Let's say
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Speaker 1: a true professional. You went to college, you got your
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Speaker 1: law degree, you have a law firm, you have a practice,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes a reality show can blur the reality of
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Speaker 1: is is she really a lawyer? Did you have to
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Speaker 1: deal with that?
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Speaker 3: I definitely did not have to deal with that. Congratulations
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Speaker 3: not to do with that, because I was the same
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Speaker 3: person on television as I am in person, and so
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Speaker 3: there was no difference. I think what ends up happening
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Speaker 3: with reality TV is that you have the television persona
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Speaker 3: of who everyone thinks that you are or what you're
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Speaker 3: portraying yourself to be, and then you have your social
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Speaker 3: media persona, and then you have real life. All three
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Speaker 3: of mine matchups. So for me, it wasn't anything that
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Speaker 3: I really had to honestly deal with after television.
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Speaker 1: So let's go back a little bit with the show,
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Speaker 1: you know, ladies who lists? How were you approached to
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Speaker 1: do that show and why did you do the show?
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Speaker 3: So? I was approached to do the show because they
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Speaker 3: were looking for a show in Atlanta about real estate
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Speaker 3: and they wanted it to highlight African American business real
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Speaker 3: estate women. And so when you're talking about Atlanta and
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Speaker 3: real estate, because I've utilized social media in a way
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Speaker 3: to put myself in my brand out there when you
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Speaker 3: would have no other choice but to see like, oh,
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Speaker 3: who is she? You know, because he's branded herself in
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Speaker 3: a way where you know, my hashtag everyone's favorite closing attorney.
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Speaker 3: And so because of all the hard work that I
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Speaker 3: did over over the years to brand myself on social media,
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Speaker 3: I was found to be one of the ones that
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Speaker 3: they were interested in, you know, doing the show with.
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Speaker 1: Now now they found you? Now still were you? Was
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Speaker 1: it a goal? Because you're watching TV, You're watching you know,
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Speaker 1: you're pretty smart than the whole practice that really reality,
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Speaker 1: The TVs could be a giant infocommercial. You can use
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Speaker 1: it to market your brand, you know, put your products
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Speaker 1: out there if that's what you're going into it. So
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Speaker 1: when they come through youse already, like I said, you
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Speaker 1: are not intimidated about being a law professional using social
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Speaker 1: media to grow your brain. You were not intimidated about that.
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Speaker 1: You saw the advantages of that. When they approached you,
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Speaker 1: what ran through your mind and did you have any stipulations.
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Speaker 3: So when they approached me to do the show, because
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Speaker 3: the show was centered around real estate, and real estate
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Speaker 3: is what one hundred percent did every single day, I
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Speaker 3: saw it as an opportunity. I saw it as a
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Speaker 3: place for me to even further grow my brand and
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Speaker 3: the reality of social media. You know, you're already in
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Speaker 3: front of tons of people. So being on television wasn't scary,
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Speaker 3: but it also wasn't something that I sought after. I
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Speaker 3: never I've never wanted to like, I've never had a
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Speaker 3: desire to be on television. I've always had the desire
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Speaker 3: to be an attorney. And so I reached that goal.
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Speaker 3: And in me being an attorney and in me focusing
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Speaker 3: on one area, which you know, of course, is will estate.
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Speaker 3: When you become that expert on it, then people will
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Speaker 3: seek you out for your expertise, right, you know, mine
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Speaker 3: is real estate. And so that's what happened.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting because you know, you you
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Speaker 1: know you're successful, let's be true about you know, and
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Speaker 1: that's what You're an attractive person and those equalities, and
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Speaker 1: then you your social media savvy and you're an attorney.
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Speaker 1: Those qualities. Did you did anybody tell you, Oh, no, Tiffany,
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Speaker 1: you're crazy. You shouldn't do that. What would the what
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Speaker 1: would the feedback when? Because you have to share this
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Speaker 1: information with people that you love, what you were, who
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Speaker 1: you respect, How did they approach you about being on
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Speaker 1: a reality show. Let's go, let's go do the elephant
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Speaker 1: the room. Reality shows don't look good to everybody.
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Speaker 3: Right, And I did get that more so from my husband,
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring that up. I didn't want
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Speaker 1: to bring that up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband's very conservative, not on any social media platform,
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Speaker 3: never has been, and he's very private and so, wow,
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Speaker 3: you drugged.
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Speaker 1: Your very private husband.
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Speaker 3: I want it. Wow, extremely private. I mean for it
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Speaker 3: to be an his day and age and him not
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Speaker 3: to even have a social media that kind of explains
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Speaker 3: to you how private he is. And so he had
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Speaker 3: tons of concerns. He had concerns about, you know, what
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Speaker 3: is this going to do for the family, because you
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Speaker 3: know they want negativity? What is it going to do
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Speaker 3: for your business because they might try to harness you know,
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Speaker 3: your business.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: But like I explained to him and others that may
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Speaker 3: have had those concerns, when you're when you walk in
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Speaker 3: who you are, all aspects of life, whether there's cameras
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Speaker 3: or not, it's going to be really difficult for people
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Speaker 3: to turn what you do into negative. So if I'm
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Speaker 3: purporting to be something that I'm not, then it's going
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Speaker 3: to be easy to say, oh, well, these are the
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Speaker 3: negative things or whatever. But in my case, I wanted
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Speaker 3: to I don't know how to be anyone else but me,
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Speaker 3: so in my marriage and my family and my business,
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Speaker 3: and even as a reality TV show star, it was
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Speaker 3: just another day. And I kept that same perspective when
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Speaker 3: it came to the entire show, and you know, throughout
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Speaker 3: the filming, you know, it made my husband a little
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Speaker 3: bit more comfortable. I mean, he's still I mean, he
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Speaker 3: asked if he would rather be television or not, he's
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Speaker 3: always gonna say no.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you know he really got that. I saw
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Speaker 1: some episodes, you know, he really got comfortable. He really
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Speaker 1: got into the show. A couple of episodes. You know,
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Speaker 1: he realized that he realized what it is. You know
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Speaker 1: the thing about it is that I really appreciated the
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Speaker 1: approach that you guys took and and and just blame
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Speaker 1: your family. And I think this was all about design
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Speaker 1: because everything's produced and and I guess what I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to make everybody understand is that there are people who
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Speaker 1: do these reality shows and that's the level that they
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Speaker 1: want to showcase. They want to show that that energy,
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Speaker 1: they want to show maybe in that negativity. And so
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Speaker 1: when you when you look at these other shows out
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Speaker 1: there and you saw what your show was doing, did
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Speaker 1: anybody try to push donvelope as far as producing? You said, Nope,
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Speaker 1: that's not me. As not attorney at Tiffany Halls.
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Speaker 3: I think with reality TV, so this is what I
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Speaker 3: tell people. They can't film break it down to us,
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Speaker 3: different break it down to us. They can't film something
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Speaker 3: that you did not do or say yes, if you
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Speaker 3: saw it, then it happened. What reality television? What happens
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Speaker 3: in reality TV? They give you these things called they're
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Speaker 3: called beats. So if I'm being filmed, they're gonna say, hey,
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Speaker 3: we at least want you to bring up X, Y
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Speaker 3: and Z.
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Speaker 1: That's the producing part. They're not writing it.
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Speaker 3: You just bring this up exactly. We need these issues
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Speaker 3: brought up, right, however, y'all bring them up. Bring them up.
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Speaker 3: So if somebody were to bring up an issue with
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Speaker 3: with me, my response is going to be whatever my
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Speaker 3: response sponse is going to be. And so if you
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Speaker 3: bring up an issue with me and you're fishing for
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Speaker 3: let's say, drama, or you're fishing for a response that's
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Speaker 3: going to excite the people, more than likely you're not
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Speaker 3: going to get that out of me if that's not
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Speaker 3: my true response. If I don't care about something, I don't,
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to fake care about it on national
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Speaker 3: television so that I have a bigger or wider audience
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Speaker 3: or so that they can see this dramatic side of me.
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Speaker 3: Because remember I didn't come on television to be a star.
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Speaker 3: It was an opportunity presented to me for what I
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Speaker 3: did professionally as a professional attorney. You know, I mean,
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Speaker 3: And even in that aspect, I'm just I'm chilled, you know.
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Speaker 3: And if I don't if I don't talk to you,
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Speaker 3: I don't talk to you. If I don't have an
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Speaker 3: issue with something, I don't have an issue for something,
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Speaker 3: and I'm not going to make it an issue or
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Speaker 3: make it bigger than what I would in real life,
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Speaker 3: just because there are cameras in front of me. It's
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Speaker 3: just not it's not my personality.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to attorney Tiffany Hall's attorney, Tiffany Halls.
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Speaker 1: You know you've seen her on Ladies Who List, very
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Speaker 1: popular reality TV show. So what is life you know
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Speaker 1: after the Ladies Who Lists? Give us, give us some
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Speaker 1: like some buzzwords so I can sell everybody to come back.
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Speaker 1: We're about to do some at another level here, Tiffany, And.
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Speaker 3: So life after Ladies Who List is my life during
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Speaker 3: and before Ladies Who I am still out here slaying
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Speaker 3: in real estate in these Atlantic I'm definitely when I
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Speaker 3: do go out, you know, I do you know people
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Speaker 3: are you know well aware of who I am beyond
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Speaker 3: you know, my social media presence. So but yeah, I'm
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Speaker 3: still the same.
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Speaker 1: Oh you gonna do? Are you gonna do TV again?
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Speaker 3: It all depends on, you know, the opportunity. I'm all
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Speaker 3: about if if an opportunity is presented to me and
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Speaker 3: I'm able to.
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Speaker 1: Say, you might be a TV judge? How about that?
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Speaker 1: How about will you be.
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Speaker 3: A TV judge? I'll be whatever guy, come on.
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Speaker 1: That Judge Halls, come on that, come on that people school.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if they want to
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Speaker 3: judge Halls. You know, I love the real judges that
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Speaker 3: give real responsible what they're gonna get from me.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I appreciate that we're talking to Attorney Tiffany Halls.
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Speaker 1: real estate. It's all about how you can maximize and
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Speaker 1: This has always been very popular in legal profession, but
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Speaker 1: a reality TV show made even bigger. It's Attorney in
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Speaker 1: Tiffany Halls. But the thing that I enjoy when I
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Speaker 1: bring individuals on that have multi levels of income, that
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Speaker 1: have multi levels of structuring their life, because it's a
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Speaker 1: very complicated life because you have to deal with it
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Speaker 1: on a databasis and you have to have one personality. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: when you have levels of personality and people could people
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Speaker 1: can like avoid you with play. So can you tell us, Tiffany,
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Speaker 1: how does your day start? What time you get up,
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Speaker 1: what's a typical day when you start, Let's say Monday morning.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so Monday mornings, of course, they're always crazier than
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Speaker 3: any other days because you're coming off the weekend, and
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Speaker 3: the weekend is where you know, real estate really happens.
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Speaker 3: That's when people are going under.
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Speaker 1: Conci So so Monday and Friday are probably big days
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Speaker 1: for you then.
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Speaker 3: Right, yes, Monday getting new contracts, Fridays closing on contracts.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so my Mondays is, you know, I probably
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Speaker 3: wake up around seven and I work out. You know,
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Speaker 3: it really helps, you know, with my mental health and
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Speaker 3: just you know, staying focused. Right now, it's the summertime,
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Speaker 3: so I get my kids ready and take them to camp,
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Speaker 3: and then I head into the office and it's on
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Speaker 3: to deal with all the many issues that come with
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Speaker 3: real estate. I mean, every day is a new day.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I've been doing this long enough, but
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Speaker 3: I swear new issues come every single day, and so
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Speaker 3: you know, it just goes to tackling those issues and
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Speaker 3: then as soon as I'm done with that, I'm back
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Speaker 3: to being a mom picking up kids and you know,
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Speaker 3: going to practice and doing the rest.
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Speaker 1: Now, now, let's talk about this real estate. Now to
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Speaker 1: get into what you're doing, you're closing attorney. Correct. Does
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Speaker 1: one have to be a lawyer to do that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so in Georgia you are required to sign your
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Speaker 3: closing documents in front of a license to Georgia attorney,
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Speaker 3: and so for in Georgia it is a requirement. And
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Speaker 3: others say it's like Florida. You don't have to be
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Speaker 3: a license attorney in order to do what I do
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Speaker 3: on a daily basis. But here we are definitely a
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Speaker 3: necessary party of a transaction being an attorney.
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Speaker 1: You know, whenever I'm on the show, you know, one
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Speaker 1: of the questions I get asked all the time is,
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Speaker 1: especially from entrepreneurs, is social media? How do you use
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Speaker 1: effectively use social media? Like you said, your hashtag everyone loves,
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Speaker 1: Everyone's Favorite closing attorney is your hashtag that you've used
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Speaker 1: and you've built out. And if anybody don't know about hashtag,
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Speaker 1: they're very effective because once you use it and you
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Speaker 1: do a search on it, and then this shows all
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Speaker 1: your posts and you show people all engaged in that
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Speaker 1: whole little it's almost like creating a little group that's
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Speaker 1: tied to your your hashtags. And so it's very smart
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Speaker 1: to use hashtags, and her hashtag is everyone's favorite closing attorney.
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Speaker 1: How did you? How did you learn the master that
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Speaker 1: part of the social media game.
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Speaker 3: Well, with social with social media, the biggest thing about
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Speaker 3: social media is being consistent. People don't know what you're
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Speaker 3: doing until you remind them, and you have to do
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Speaker 3: so on a daily basis. And so when I found
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Speaker 3: that formula of being consistent and posting all the time,
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Speaker 3: then you want to give something that people can remember.
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Speaker 3: People may not always remember your name like Pivity Halls
19:19
Speaker 3: or what's the law firm name? They may forget that,
19:21
Speaker 3: but if you put your hashtag there enough, they're going
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Speaker 3: to remember that hashtag and in order to find you,
19:28
Speaker 3: they may just go to the hashtag everyone's favorite, you know,
19:31
Speaker 3: close an attorney. And so it's that little saying that
19:35
Speaker 3: reminds people of who you are. They may not remember
19:38
Speaker 3: my name personally, they may just remember how I look,
19:41
Speaker 3: or they may just remember that hashtag. And so it's
19:44
Speaker 3: just a quick way to remind people what you do
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Speaker 3: and for them to be able to find you.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, in the social media game, everybody's into numbers.
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Speaker 1: You know, how many followers or likes. What is I'm
19:57
Speaker 1: just I'm not asking you be an expert, but you
19:59
Speaker 1: in the so you know how people react and when
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Speaker 1: people will make you an influencer and all these things.
20:04
Speaker 1: What's a nice range When you feel that you have
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Speaker 1: an effective of social media? Number of followers are likes
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Speaker 1: that impacted you?
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Speaker 3: I don't think the number of followers or likes impacted
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Speaker 3: my business. I think it was the quality right engagement
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Speaker 3: the people who I wanted to follow me. It was
20:24
Speaker 3: about them following me. So even when I had let's
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Speaker 3: say less than ten thousand followers who was following me
20:31
Speaker 3: will estate agents, those are the people that I wanted
20:34
Speaker 3: to follow me because those are the people that would
20:37
Speaker 3: have the greatest impact on my business. And so I
20:41
Speaker 3: don't think it's the number of followers that you have.
20:44
Speaker 3: For some people, they do care about that because they
20:47
Speaker 3: feel like it gives you some type of credibility. But
20:49
Speaker 3: for most people, they don't care about it. They care
20:53
Speaker 3: about if you're giving really good information or whatever product
20:56
Speaker 3: or service that you have if they needed at that time.
21:00
Speaker 3: And so for business people, if you're focusing on social media,
21:04
Speaker 3: don't focus on the amount of followers that you have
21:07
Speaker 3: or the amount of likes that you have. Focus on
21:10
Speaker 3: getting the right people to follow you. So for me,
21:13
Speaker 3: as you get a closing attorney, I want real estate
21:15
Speaker 3: agents to follow me. So what am I going to do.
21:18
Speaker 3: I'm going to go follow real estate agents. I'm going
21:20
Speaker 3: to go on their page and I'm going to engage
21:23
Speaker 3: with them. I'm going to like their posts. I'm going
21:25
Speaker 3: to comment under their posts. I'm going to DM them,
21:29
Speaker 3: you know when they have nice stories going on, because
21:31
Speaker 3: I want them to follow me so that when I
21:34
Speaker 3: post my information, they utilize my business. Okay, So I
21:38
Speaker 3: think it's more about the quality of followers than it
21:41
Speaker 3: is the quantity of them.
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Speaker 1: Okay, cool. This is important because because like I had,
21:46
Speaker 1: you know, I had other people running my social media
21:48
Speaker 1: account and so I took it over. They liked what
21:51
Speaker 1: they were doing with it, and they had me following
21:53
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred people, and I have like eight hundred and
21:56
Speaker 1: sixty thousand Facebook followers and I and I didn't even
22:00
Speaker 1: know these people. I didn't know who they were, and
22:02
Speaker 1: that reduced I just started just unfollowing these people. I'm
22:04
Speaker 1: down at one hundred and ninety eight people that I
22:07
Speaker 1: kind of that I know and so so, so that's
22:11
Speaker 1: what you're saying, ra Sean. If you're going to follow somebody,
22:13
Speaker 1: follow somebody that that that you know, that has a
22:17
Speaker 1: sense of purpose as to why you're follow them. Because
22:19
Speaker 1: when you follow them, when you post, you go on
22:21
Speaker 1: their feed or do they their feed goes on your
22:23
Speaker 1: feed when you follow them? How does that work? Yeah?
22:25
Speaker 3: So on on Facebook, when your friends, it doesn't matter.
22:29
Speaker 3: You get to see, you know, whatever they do, or
22:31
Speaker 3: they get to see whatever you do. But on Instagram,
22:34
Speaker 3: in order for people to see what you're doing, they
22:36
Speaker 3: have to actually follow you. And so a lot of
22:38
Speaker 3: times you got to work for the follow. People just
22:41
Speaker 3: don't follow you just because I mean maybe back you know,
22:45
Speaker 3: a few years ago, but now people are very intentional
22:49
Speaker 3: about who they follow, So you have to give people
22:52
Speaker 3: a reason to follow you. You have to make sure
22:55
Speaker 3: when people come to my page, if they're a real
22:57
Speaker 3: estate agent, they're gonna follow me because the content that
23:00
Speaker 3: I'm giving is actually gonna help them in some way
23:04
Speaker 3: with their business. So I have to earn that. So
23:06
Speaker 3: I can't just post, you know, random things all the
23:10
Speaker 3: time or cute pictures. I have to give information that's
23:13
Speaker 3: going to be useful for them and their business because
23:16
Speaker 3: they got to work for their follow They need to
23:19
Speaker 3: be following me for a reason and not just just
23:21
Speaker 3: to be following.
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Speaker 1: And that's really true. That's really true because you know,
23:26
Speaker 1: I'm an influencer when it comes to food. Now, I've tried.
23:30
Speaker 1: Now I post something about something else, and when I
23:34
Speaker 1: post my breakfast, you know, thousand two thousand likes I
23:37
Speaker 1: post something else. They can't care less. So you're saying,
23:40
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing this clear and everybody she's is if
23:42
Speaker 1: you're going to have followers, make sure you appeal to
23:45
Speaker 1: the people who follow you and also have a reason
23:48
Speaker 1: for other people to follow you. That's what you're saying. Correct,
23:50
Speaker 1: Attorney Halls, Correct. Yeah, so she's you know this is
23:54
Speaker 1: this is like this is free service she give me
23:56
Speaker 1: right now in regards to social media. Now, when you
23:59
Speaker 1: when you talk about your specific tips that you could
24:02
Speaker 1: about being successful, because you and some terms I consider
24:07
Speaker 1: a multi millionaire, how did you get there?
24:10
Speaker 3: A lot of hard work, focused, being burnt out from
24:16
Speaker 3: working so hard. And so what I tell people is
24:21
Speaker 3: number one, figure out what you want to do, whatever
24:23
Speaker 3: that is, give all your energy to it. So I
24:26
Speaker 3: knew I wanted to be an attorney. So even though
24:29
Speaker 3: you know, I had bills to pay, I kept my
24:32
Speaker 3: job and then went to law school at night. So
24:34
Speaker 3: I stayed on path to what I wanted to do,
24:38
Speaker 3: went to law school at night, graduated, opened up my business.
24:43
Speaker 3: And when I opened up the business, I was willing
24:47
Speaker 3: to do any and everything legally in order to make
24:50
Speaker 3: my business successful. So if that meant staying up till
24:54
Speaker 3: one o'clock at night, That's what I was going to do.
24:57
Speaker 3: And so when I did open my business, it was
25:00
Speaker 3: isn't easy. The first year, I think I made ten
25:03
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. I didn't make a lot of money, and
25:06
Speaker 3: I had to figure out what was going to be
25:08
Speaker 3: my best source of getting my clients and your traditional
25:12
Speaker 3: marketing sources of like going out shaking hands. I was
25:15
Speaker 3: uncomfortable and I didn't have time. And so when I
25:18
Speaker 3: finally found my niche, which was social media, then I
25:23
Speaker 3: focused on that and it became how can I be consistent?
25:26
Speaker 3: How can I get the attention of people? And of
25:29
Speaker 3: course this took years. This wasn't like an overnight success story.
25:33
Speaker 3: It took one client believing in me, and then me
25:37
Speaker 3: believing that this was actually gonna work, and then finding
25:41
Speaker 3: more and more and more, and as the years went on,
25:45
Speaker 3: then of course I was able to build my business.
25:48
Speaker 3: And in building my business, I became a resource for people.
25:51
Speaker 3: I became a trusted, knowledgeable attorney that was able to
25:55
Speaker 3: give good information that would help agents because that's my
26:00
Speaker 3: business source, increase their business and we grow together in
26:04
Speaker 3: this industry.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I have learned a lot today, and I'm a
26:09
Speaker 1: know it all everybody. I'm a know it all. And
26:11
Speaker 1: when you get educated because you do know social media,
26:14
Speaker 1: that's important. And I'm talking to attorney Tiffany Halls, the
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Speaker 1: Hall's Lure Firm. Everybody's committed to complete integrity and servicing
26:22
Speaker 1: their clients. They specialize in real estate, contract review and
26:25
Speaker 1: title insurance matters, home closing, home loan closing, refinance closing,
26:30
Speaker 1: real estate closing. You do it all, but more importantly,
26:33
Speaker 1: how can they reach out to you?
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Speaker 3: They can reach out to me. You can find me
26:36
Speaker 3: on Instagram Tiffany Hawes Underscore Haws Lawyers. That is where
26:42
Speaker 3: I am most active at. That is where I accept
26:46
Speaker 3: you know, the DMS and all of those things. You
26:49
Speaker 3: can also contact my office www. Dot Thehawslawfirm dot com.
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Speaker 3: All the contact information is located on my website and
26:58
Speaker 3: if you see me out speak and you have questions answer.
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Speaker 1: I love it, But first of all, don't let it
27:05
Speaker 1: be two years because I will I will see you
27:07
Speaker 1: in the streets and it won't go good for our relationship.
27:10
Speaker 1: It won't go good for our relationship because you're fantastic.
27:13
Speaker 1: You came on the show, you laid down some tremendous information,
27:16
Speaker 1: and I like to bring you back when you have time,
27:18
Speaker 1: because I think the whole level of education you give
27:21
Speaker 1: it my audience about social media has never been expounded
27:24
Speaker 1: on the show like that. That tremendous education, tremendous knowledge,
27:28
Speaker 1: and we all as entrepreneurs are running around trying to
27:31
Speaker 1: figure out how to use this potential free service to
27:34
Speaker 1: our advantage because it's global. It really is global when
27:37
Speaker 1: you make a post. And thank your getting attorney Tiffany
27:39
Speaker 1: Hall for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class.
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Speaker 3: All right, thank you for having me anytime.
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