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- 0:00The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
- 0:04B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
- 0:06The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
- 0:10-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:19Alright. Holy shit. The Boxing B -Sides are back.
- 0:30Joined by the one and only Saul. What's up, guys?
- 0:35Glad to be back after a fucking nice holiday
- 0:37break. Yeah, we got the... How was your guys'
- 0:40holidays, by the way? Let me ask you that. Oh,
- 0:43yeah. How was your guys' holidays? Uh, it wasn't
- 0:47a holiday for Josh. Nope. Oh, that's right. I
- 0:51forgot his dude's part Canadian. Canadian. Yeah,
- 0:54they're in October. Yeah. Oh, shit, man. We got
- 1:00a lot of stuff to catch up on, so let's fucking
- 1:02kick it off here. So, your heartbroken Johnny
- 1:08Beck. Yeah. Johnny Beck, he broke my heart. I'm
- 1:14not going to lie. That hurt really bad. And honestly,
- 1:17it kind of, the whole card was cursed, but with
- 1:19Johnny Beck, dude, Jesus Christ, to see him pop
- 1:23for, what is it, a month? I can't even say it's
- 1:26some Russian drug. Come on, dude. In the immortal
- 1:30words of Janabek in about three weeks once he
- 1:33starts working fast food, would you like fries
- 1:37with that, sir? I'm going to be honest, dude.
- 1:43That killed my whole article. I told last time
- 1:46that I was going to have an article out, and
- 1:48a lot of it was praising Janabek, and it's kind
- 1:51of shit, so I had to redo the whole article.
- 1:53I gotta say, this is why I focus on, like, recent,
- 1:56recent. Like, if I can get it out, like, on something
- 2:00that just happened, it's way easier to either
- 2:03be right or wrong and then have that be your
- 2:06take than, like, letting something age. Yeah,
- 2:09well. It aged like milk. It was fucking... Aged
- 2:15like milk. It was fucking horrible. For my first
- 2:17article, this is my first time, so, you know.
- 2:20Forever is not cool. I might still release it.
- 2:25Leo went on a pilgrimage and you still can't
- 2:27get that article out. No, I was waiting for Leo
- 2:30to come back so I could have him publish it.
- 2:33And then that shit happened. I was like, okay,
- 2:35bro. It aged. Yeah. It aged. Oh, yeah, it aged.
- 2:38But I'll tell you this, and we'll get into it
- 2:40right now. Janet Beck would have fucking murdered
- 2:42Lara. Who knows? Maybe without the steroids,
- 2:46it's a little more competitive. Yeah. That's
- 2:48the weird thing about it. That fucking substance
- 2:50that he popped for, like, there's no conclusive
- 2:54evidence of, like, actual benefits. You know
- 2:58what I mean? No, like, he's just taking super
- 3:00soldier serum for nothing. Yeah. For a little
- 3:04benefit. Just for fun, man. Fucking Janabek,
- 3:09man. I fucking... That killed me. It killed the
- 3:12car for me. Oh, man. 160 forever doomed. Yeah.
- 3:18Other weird testing news. Subreal Matias tested
- 3:22positive for, what was it, Osterine? Osterine.
- 3:26The Ryan Garcia special. Like a fraction of a
- 3:30picogram instead of Ryan Garcia's blood having
- 3:34more Osterine than white blood cells in it. That
- 3:40was weird, though, how they just kind of dismissed
- 3:42it. Because I thought Austrian was one of those
- 3:45things that's like a no acceptable levels kind
- 3:47of testing. Yeah, it turns out there's acceptable
- 3:50levels. Yeah, apparently. It's for recovery,
- 3:53primarily, to my knowledge. But they can only
- 3:57go up to a certain level, though. So they can
- 3:59have some in their system. It's mainly for tainting
- 4:05to my awareness. What, it's a masking agent?
- 4:12Like, it can be in tainted supplements. Oh, I
- 4:15see. So that's why there's some allowance. Because,
- 4:20like, it can faintly present itself in over -the
- 4:23-counter supplements and stuff. So Ryan Garcia
- 4:27was... Ryan Garcia was straight -up juicing.
- 4:30He had way, like, again, more ostrein than white
- 4:33blood cells. So basically, he beat Devin Haney.
- 4:36And Devin Haney sucks. Yeah. I'm playing. I'm
- 4:40playing. I'm sorry. Actually, he was framed.
- 4:46He was framed by Big Al. Was it Shakur Stevenson
- 4:53planted that in his camp, just like he poisoned
- 4:56Floyd Schofield? They're always blaming the boy.
- 5:02All right. Three fights ordered by the WBC. Ben
- 5:08Whittaker versus Joshua Boazzi. I'm not sure
- 5:11how to feel about this, because Ben Whittaker
- 5:13seems to have reformed. It's not quite his old
- 5:17dancing Emmanuel Augustus self. Magically gained
- 5:21some punching power. Since he switched. That
- 5:25was a hair special, I'll tell you that. All these
- 5:31rankings, we'll get into right now, but all these
- 5:32rankings were bullshit. Yeah, it's a pretty average
- 5:35going for the belts. Yeah. I mean, at the same
- 5:38time, 175 is not the deepest division, but to
- 5:43re -rank that high without fighting any good
- 5:46fighters, that's ridiculous. If he fought Joshua
- 5:49Boassi, I would understand. And he beat him,
- 5:51I would understand that ranking, but that's some
- 5:54bullshit. Mbili vs Shiraz. This one was disappointing.
- 6:00I was really expecting the Lester Martinez rematch.
- 6:03Yeah. I think it's going to be to Lester's benefit,
- 6:08question mark, because someone else is going
- 6:11to have to take a chance on him in the division,
- 6:13and I have faith in Lester to continue improving,
- 6:18as coachable as he is and as good as his coaching
- 6:21is. Well, honestly, with this fight itself, I
- 6:24was disappointed with the fact that fucking Shiraz
- 6:26beat Berlanga, and that gives him a shot, a vacant
- 6:30title shot? Are you kidding me? Like, what the
- 6:33fuck? Is it vacant? Yeah, because Terrence Crawford
- 6:37got stripped. Yeah, they stripped my boy. And
- 6:41it's like, we'll get into that more right now,
- 6:43but it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Shiraz
- 6:46has done nothing to the division. I don't mind
- 6:49the division getting a move on instead of everyone
- 6:51waiting for their stimulus check, though. Yes,
- 6:55but why does Shiraz deserve... It should have
- 6:58been Lester. It should have absolutely been Lester,
- 7:00but I also don't mind Shiraz Lester as soon as
- 7:04Mbili loses to Shiraz. You think Shiraz beats
- 7:08him? I disagree with that. The thing is, if Shiraz
- 7:12can... The way Adamas fought him is not a way
- 7:17that Mbili could fight him. I'm saying I have
- 7:22more faith in Shiraz to be able to... keep Mbili
- 7:27at a distance, especially because Mbili is a
- 7:29very one -paced guy, than I do for Mbili to really
- 7:33get through it without anything coming back at
- 7:37him. I disagree. I think that Mbili... Oh, I'm
- 7:44not surprised if Mbili just beats him up and
- 7:46Shiraz is a lot worse than we thought. I don't
- 7:49think I'm that highly already. But seeing how
- 7:53Adamas fought him, I don't think Mbili can fight
- 7:55him the same way. Oh, definitely not. Yeah, two
- 7:58totally different skill sets. Yeah, like Mbili's
- 8:01so one pace that I think, like, it won't be pretty
- 8:05at all, but Shiraz can absolutely beat Mbili.
- 8:10I think it'll be a tough fight, but I think Adamas
- 8:14had the, like we said, the advantage. I still
- 8:17think Mbili has a better chance of winning than
- 8:19some of the other... contenders in the division.
- 8:23Honestly, I think I might get flamed for this,
- 8:26but at this point, I think someone like Munguia
- 8:28loses to Shiraz. Okay, but that's because Munguia's
- 8:32chin has been fried by Siraz. He's also got negative
- 8:36in the fight style. Yeah. I think it's ultimately
- 8:46good for the division to get it moving. 100%.
- 8:50Oh, yeah, 100%. We always wanted Tokawa to vacate
- 8:53the titles. That's what we needed. I was expecting
- 8:55him to the whole time. Yeah, I was expecting
- 8:57him to step away and just take whatever fights
- 8:59he wanted. You know, the belts don't matter,
- 9:01but he can win the belts off, guys. Yeah, 100%,
- 9:03yeah. That's the thing, is that the whole fucking
- 9:06assault thing with the belts right now, it's
- 9:09giving the Saudis a lot of ammo, and it's pissing
- 9:11me off. Yeah, the Saudis were always going to
- 9:14have ammo when this stuff happened, just because,
- 9:16like... Like, it was so obvious they were going
- 9:18to use a guy as a tool to... But that's the next
- 9:21thing. They're going to use a guy as a tool to
- 9:23undermine confidence in the belts because boxing
- 9:25fans are... Literacy is not high among them.
- 9:32Yeah, well... We'll see what happens. Really
- 9:35quickly, is this one... Let's use Saul's term,
- 9:39bull jive? The Tom Alcoly announcement? Oh, my
- 9:44God. That one's kind of... That one, I can't
- 9:47defend as much. I don't even understand it. Someone
- 9:51needs to explain that one to me. I can't even
- 9:53fathom that. I understand Akuli being a highly
- 9:56ranked guy from another division. You want to
- 9:58get rid of him. And it basically... If Itama
- 10:01beats him promotionally, it's he beat a respected
- 10:03former world champ, whatever, right? But it's
- 10:07such a trap fight for someone who wants Itama
- 10:10to develop. Because it's not that Akoli is any
- 10:14good. It's that the risk is always there for
- 10:16him to just spoil and fuck it up. He's such a
- 10:20negative fighter. Yeah, negative fighter. I was
- 10:21just thinking that. I saw on the Discord someone
- 10:26say that Rancis Bartholomew has a passive that
- 10:30lowers the opponent's punch output. And Akoli
- 10:35has a similar thing where the punch output is
- 10:38just decimated when you fight him because of...
- 10:41He's just going to grab you. Yeah, but you know
- 10:45what? If Itama could knock out Okoli and make
- 10:48a statement, that would be good. Oh, absolutely.
- 10:54It's very like, finally we're rid of Okoli. You
- 10:57are the savior of this division. But also, it's
- 11:02such a trap fight for a young guy who might not
- 11:05have the experience to get rid of a super negative
- 11:09guy. I think he has the experience. I think he'll
- 11:13beat him pretty soundly. I honestly think he'll
- 11:15knock him out, too, pretty... I would say before
- 11:17round six. I have hope that he can. I just, like,
- 11:20don't be surprised if we're in round eight and
- 11:24there's three punches being thrown between them.
- 11:27Yeah. Like, pit bull shit. Don't be surprised,
- 11:34you know? See what happens. But I don't get...
- 11:41I don't like it being made before he even gets
- 11:42past Franklin, though. No, yeah, that's really...
- 11:47As much as we know that Tom is going to win that
- 11:50one, I mean, come on. Anything could happen.
- 11:52Yeah, like the turkey curse is aptly made because
- 11:56we're making fights three steps ahead and then
- 11:59you throw in a banana peel in there for no reason.
- 12:02If we get Jermaine Franklin and Lawrence Cole,
- 12:05I might just fucking kill myself. Oh, Heavyweight's
- 12:09so dead if we get that shit. I wonder how they
- 12:15would fucking market that. You don't. I think
- 12:20Bob might just kill himself too. You throw it
- 12:22on the undercard of some bullshit and then forget
- 12:25about it. Put it in like the 5v5 or some shit.
- 12:28Yeah, literally. Everything's bullshit. All this
- 12:33ranking WBC is all bullshit. I don't get it.
- 12:36You know? But it's whatever. That's just politics.
- 12:39Boxing. Unfortunately, that's what we got to
- 12:41deal with. We don't like the Saudis, but we really
- 12:43don't. We don't like the fucking rankings, but
- 12:45we definitely don't like the fucking monopolization
- 12:47of the sport, you know? Speaking of bullshit,
- 12:52WBC strips Terrence Crawford. Holy shit. You
- 12:57don't pay your fees. This is what I've gathered.
- 13:03I didn't follow the whole story. like on Twitter
- 13:06or anything, but it was that the other sanctioning
- 13:11bodies have like fixed percentages that they
- 13:15take off of the purse and WBC doesn't have that.
- 13:18And they were asking for like a lot more. Well,
- 13:23they said it was 0 .06%, which was 300 ,000,
- 13:26which is still half the amount, but I don't know.
- 13:30This was, this was, uh, what's the, what's the
- 13:32word? Uh, I think they were planning to fucking
- 13:34not even pay him at all. Because they already
- 13:36came out with merch immediately about, oh, fuck
- 13:39the belt. What did they say in the merch was?
- 13:41I am the belts? Yeah. I will say this is something
- 13:46that is bigger than Crawford because, again,
- 13:49this is basically a play against the belts existing
- 13:55by the Saudis. Yeah, that's what the... So obvious.
- 14:04Yeah, they're trying to see the cracks in the
- 14:10facade of boxing so that TKO has ammunition for
- 14:16the Ali Reform Act. Yeah. From the Crawford perspective,
- 14:22I think it's a little crazy that now he's bigger
- 14:27than the belts. when the only reason he basically
- 14:32posed for anyone to care about him was, oh, I
- 14:35had the belts. Yeah, that's a little interesting.
- 14:39Like, it's a little interesting. He was always
- 14:41like, oh, I had the belts at this division, and
- 14:44the belts at this division, the belts, the belts,
- 14:46the belts, and it's never... Victor Wollster
- 14:47wasn't elite. And then as soon as he fights,
- 14:50as soon as he finds himself... at a juncture
- 14:55where, like, okay, now people care about him
- 14:58for him. Oh, now it's the belts don't matter.
- 15:02When the whole reason to fight him previously
- 15:05was belts, belts, belts. Yeah, I mean... That's
- 15:12the reason why he fought Canelo, was to become
- 15:13undisputed. The belts matter, obviously, to him.
- 15:15Yeah, the belts clearly matter, because, like,
- 15:17again, like, why did he fight Spence? To become
- 15:19undisputed. Yeah, that's fucking... This is ridiculous.
- 15:24Oh, Crawford, man. He's a chowdy show. It's just
- 15:30like, again, inside the ring, Crawford is like
- 15:35a must -watch. Great. Outside the ring, holy
- 15:38shit, dude. You needed a manager from the start,
- 15:43and he could have been so much more. And that's
- 15:48saying how good Crawford is, that this is a disappointment
- 15:52in terms of the fact that he has two notable
- 15:54wins. Like, that's the type of standard we have
- 16:01for him, that this ends up being a disappointment.
- 16:05I mean, that's why you fought Magibob. You want
- 16:06to be a champion. That's how you're a champion.
- 16:08Otherwise, it means shit. Yeah, like, you fight
- 16:11the guys with the belts because the belts matter,
- 16:13not, uh... Oh, the belts don't matter as soon
- 16:16as they're inconvenient to me. Otherwise, you're
- 16:19gonna have fucking Abel Mendoza calling themselves
- 16:21the fucking... Yeah, like, what the... What the...
- 16:24The quandary of, like, how much the belts should
- 16:28be charging, what they use it for is separate.
- 16:31That's a separate discussion from this. Because
- 16:34when you merge the discussions, you end up playing
- 16:36into the Saudis' hands, you know? But in regards
- 16:39to strictly, um... like Crawford here like you
- 16:46have played you basically have agreed to the
- 16:49terms of the belt your entire career and now
- 16:53that you think you're bigger than the belts even
- 16:57though you literally just fought purely for belts
- 16:59by the way now it's uh it's a whole issue with
- 17:05uh you're pinching pennies because you're bigger
- 17:10than the belts and it's uh I don't know. It's
- 17:14not... It's just not a good discussion to be
- 17:21having at this time because you end up devaluing
- 17:25yourself a lot if you're Crawford. Who the fuck
- 17:30is going to buy that merch too? Like, really?
- 17:34If we're going to save the belt... Yeah, that's
- 17:39the thing. They have merch and they're coming
- 17:41out with it. It's just like, I'm the belts or
- 17:43something like that. Like, if we're going to
- 17:47say the belts are worthless, the belts are whatever,
- 17:50like, why are you fighting, like, Hank Lundy?
- 17:54Yeah. Or Thomas DeLorme is who we beat. Thomas
- 17:58DeLorme. Why are you fighting Thomas DeLorme
- 18:00if the belts don't matter and you only want the
- 18:03best of the best of the best? Ricky Burns, baby.
- 18:06Yeah, like, come on. Ricky Burns. The belts clearly
- 18:12matter. Like at 147, his whole claim at 147 was,
- 18:16oh, Spence ain't the best because he doesn't
- 18:18have all the belts. I have the belt. He needs
- 18:19me. No, it don't matter. That's why you vote
- 18:24Magimov. Yeah, the belt. Because there was a
- 18:28fucking belt there. Easy title opportunity. Okay,
- 18:33you move up. You're undisputed or whatever at
- 18:37140. No, he's missing the WBA. Okay, whatever.
- 18:43You move up to 147. Why is your first fight at
- 18:46147 Jeff Horn? You don't horny? It's because
- 18:52of the belt. He has a belt. Oh, that's right.
- 18:54He had Rob Pacquiao, right? Yeah, but he had
- 18:57the belt. Because, like, otherwise, like, yeah,
- 18:59so... So, again, like, Crawford has built his
- 19:02career on collecting these belts. And the thing
- 19:05is that there's guys who... clearly outgrow the
- 19:08belts, I don't think he's there because the fights
- 19:10he's shopping for are still belts. Like, especially,
- 19:17like, I don't think he'd ever consider fighting.
- 19:19He's not going to fight Janabek now that Janabek
- 19:21doesn't have that fucking strap. Yeah, he's not
- 19:25going to. Well, not yet. We don't know if they're
- 19:27going to strip him yet. They probably are. But
- 19:28like, if he ends up getting stripped of both
- 19:31of his belts, Crawford's not going to fight him.
- 19:34Yeah, Janabek is essentially worthless at that
- 19:36point. Yeah. That whole division is worthless
- 19:39at that point because now you can't fight. I
- 19:40doubt that Lara and Janabek are going to fight.
- 19:43The whole point was Lara and Janabek were going
- 19:46to fight and unify. Crawford was probably going
- 19:49to fight Adamas and then unify with the winner.
- 19:53Because the timing is a little convenient. The
- 19:57Janabek pops. The unification can't happen anymore.
- 20:02And now Crawford throws a fit about the WBC.
- 20:05It's Adamas who he would fight at middleweight.
- 20:13You put on your temple hat for this one? I just
- 20:16think Crawford's plans got derailed for his sunset
- 20:20ending of going undisputed at middleweight. He
- 20:25got a little liquored up, hopped on Twitter,
- 20:28and threw a fit. Honestly, I guess it could still
- 20:32happen. He could fight for the IVF. If they don't
- 20:34strip Janabek, he could fight Janabek first.
- 20:36And then fight Adames or Lara in edification.
- 20:40That's three fights, and Janabek is going to
- 20:44command even less money now. That's the same
- 20:48amount of fights as if he would have fought Adames
- 20:50and then Janabek. He fights Janabek first, then
- 20:52Adames and then Lara. It's going to be one, two,
- 20:54three. I don't think Lara -Janabek ends up happening.
- 20:57No, I don't think so. If he still fights Janabek,
- 21:01And then Adami's and then Lara Unify. That's
- 21:03still possible. It's possible, but... I doubt
- 21:07Lara and Adami's are going to Unify. Yeah, because
- 21:11like Lara fights once a year. So now you're going
- 21:13to wait a whole year for a chance to dislodge
- 21:15that belt. I don't know. I mean, they've had
- 21:19the belts for fucking how long? How long has
- 21:21Adami's and Lara held the belts? Since like,
- 21:23what, 2023? For Lara? Or for Adami's? Adamas
- 21:30has had it for a minute. Yeah. Lara's had it
- 21:33for a minute as well. Lara picked it up. I think
- 21:37after Triple G in 2022. Fuck, when did he pick
- 21:49it up again? I think it was after Triple G vacated.
- 21:53June of 24 is when Adamas got the full title.
- 21:57You're not 24, really. Yeah, he had the interim
- 22:00since like 2022. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well,
- 22:11anything more for Terrence Crawford and his crash
- 22:15out? Man, shut the fuck up. Yeah, like this guy,
- 22:21like shut up and fight someone, please. No, I'm
- 22:26joking, but you can't be saying that shit. That's
- 22:30going to not ruin your career, but that's going
- 22:32to really downplay your achievements if you say
- 22:34the belts don't fucking matter. Yeah, because
- 22:36all his achievements are entirely belt -based.
- 22:39Yeah. 140 and 147. And then... Free Spence. Free
- 22:45Spence and Porter, I would say. Oh, yeah. Like
- 22:48I was going to say, it's all belt -based. No
- 22:50one's going to say he's top pound -for -pound
- 22:52great for beating Ricky Burns. As much legwork
- 22:56as the gift wants to do. Yeah. You're not getting
- 23:00in the Hall of Fame off of beating Ricky Burns.
- 23:03It's like at that point, then you're really downplaying
- 23:06a lot of champions, their legacy, you know? It's
- 23:10like Pacquiao, he was a fucking multi -division
- 23:12champion. He's a legend. Yeah, what the fuck,
- 23:15if the belts don't matter, you know, what the
- 23:17fuck, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, it's our
- 23:21suit piece. All right. We're going to go into
- 23:27the Wayback Machine. Fucking... Connor Ben and
- 23:33Eubank Jr. card. Oh, Christ, I forgot this one
- 23:37happened already. Yeah. It's been that long,
- 23:40huh? It has been. Jesus Christ. Dude, it looks
- 23:46kind of silly on TV, but when you're there, Sweet
- 23:50Caroline's pretty fun. It's fun? Yeah, it was
- 23:54pretty fun. That's right, you had the fight.
- 23:59How was the 50 cent walkout? That was the hypest
- 24:03part. That was pretty cool. It was pretty damn
- 24:06cool. That's the part I cared about. Watching
- 24:10it on the stream, that must have been pretty
- 24:12sick to be in person. Yeah, I wasn't too far
- 24:16from the tunnel. So I got to see them coming
- 24:21out. That's cool as fuck. That's heat. That's
- 24:26heat. That was probably the best part of the
- 24:29fight. Man. Let's go just really quickly. Mikey
- 24:38Talon KO5 over Faison Shahid. Richard Reakpour
- 24:44TKO2 over Tommy Welsh. Sure happened. That was
- 24:52definitely a fight. Ishmael Davis, UD over Sam
- 24:57Gilly. Sam Gilly had a huge supporting. I was
- 25:04kind of surprised. Interesting. The Goat Jack
- 25:11Catterall. Jaron Catterall. Jaron Catterall?
- 25:18Beating the shit out of Kyle Usman. Jack Bozy.
- 25:23God. You know what? That's respect, man. I'm
- 25:31definitely going to watch Catterall's next fight.
- 25:32Yeah, I was going to say, do you think this is
- 25:34a career resurgence? Yeah, if he can continue
- 25:38cracking an egg, I'm pretty happy. Yeah. I mean,
- 25:42he's the first. He's gotten a knockout before
- 25:44Canelo, so I got to respect that. That is a shit.
- 25:48He's gotten a knockout at a decent level before
- 25:51Virgil won a belt. Stranger things happen, you
- 25:56know? I'm content. If he loses, it's whatever.
- 26:01He's one of those guys where I'm like, you know
- 26:03what? He's got a happy place on an undercard.
- 26:10I don't know, he might just become the main.
- 26:12It was the Jack Catterall fight when I realized
- 26:15I was surrounded by... No, no, no. I made this
- 26:19mistake as well when I was talking to Shanada.
- 26:22I was the fucking nerd. Because when Jack Carroll
- 26:28was coming out, I was talking to the people sitting
- 26:31next to me. They were like, wow, an American.
- 26:37Holy shit. Didn't expect to see that. So I was
- 26:41an oddity or a novelty. But I was talking about...
- 26:46Jack Catterall's first fight with Bozianis in
- 26:49this corner. They're like, who the fuck is Bozianis?
- 26:53And they're like, what the hell are you talking
- 26:54about? They were looking at me like I was fucking
- 26:56weird. I'm like, damn it. That's when you realize
- 27:00they're the hardcores. Yeah, yeah. I'm a degenerate.
- 27:03I bring this up, I'm like, guys, like, we are
- 27:06the super, super, like, 0 .5 % hardcores. Yeah,
- 27:12they were softcore fans. South Core, okay. That
- 27:19was the co -main, right? The one that happened
- 27:25before it, Adam Azeem stopping Kurt Scooby. This
- 27:29was where all the people around me figured out
- 27:32that I was not British. Because I was cheering
- 27:36for Kurt Scooby and everyone was looking at me
- 27:38like, what? I was like, what? He's American and
- 27:41so am I. And so, like, the people sitting around
- 27:45me, they're, like, poking fun. Like, Adam Azim's
- 27:48gonna fucking kill him. And it turns out that's
- 27:51exactly what happened. But it was all in good
- 27:54fun. Ah, and then the disappointment that was
- 28:01the main event. Connor Benn scores a knockdown
- 28:06on Chris Eubank as he, what, cruised to a UD?
- 28:11Yeah, like... Eubank was so gone. Shinata was
- 28:18saying that he was weight -drained. Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:23Weight -drained in age. It doesn't help that
- 28:25Bomac ate all of the food he could ever possibly
- 28:27get a hold of, probably. I would say that age
- 28:33was probably the bigger factor, honestly. The
- 28:37biggest. He looked old. Last time he was 162,
- 28:45but he looked just fine. I think, yeah, several
- 28:49harsh weight cuts back to back to back. Being
- 28:52pretty old and having a war with Conor Benn probably,
- 28:55yeah. Yeah, you're right. It all adds up. Probably
- 28:59just get him in and that's it. Yeah, yeah. He
- 29:03gave it his all last time, you know, and this
- 29:05time around he's just... Nothing. He got knocked
- 29:07down by Conor Benn, the welterweight, so... I
- 29:10mean... I laughed at the knockdown. You laughed
- 29:16at the knockdown? The knockdown happened. I was
- 29:18like, I'm fucking out of here. This is over.
- 29:23Were you kind of disappointed about that fight
- 29:25or what? Yeah, I was. I was expecting better
- 29:28from Eubank. Do you think that ticket was worth
- 29:32the money? The Catterall fight was fun. The Scooby
- 29:37fight was pretty fun. Showed me a lot about Adam
- 29:40Azeem. Like, he's just... It's pretty, like,
- 29:43what, semi -legit now? I would say, yeah. It's
- 29:47pretty okay. So, I got to see those. The ReactPoor
- 29:51knockout was fun. It was a pretty sad affair,
- 29:55but, meh. Still, it was a knockout. Overall,
- 30:00you got a pretty good 50 -cent concert out of
- 30:02it. I did. And, you know, there's something,
- 30:06like, sporting events here in the U .S., you
- 30:08can only buy two drinks at a time. And if you
- 30:11want to buy more, you have to have other people
- 30:13with you. Yeah, I blame baseball for that. Old
- 30:1650 cent beer night. And yeah. So when I was there,
- 30:22I went up to the beer counter and I asked for
- 30:26a pint. And they were like, how many? Like, how
- 30:30many am I allowed to get? Yeah. So that was pretty
- 30:35cool. You got wasted, huh? No, I didn't get wasted.
- 30:41Just ingratiated myself with the people around
- 30:43me. It's like, hey, American bought you a beer.
- 30:46Would you like one? That's fucking cool, man.
- 30:50It was fun. The guy sitting behind me, Major
- 30:54Eubank Stan, kept screaming. Major Eubank Stan?
- 30:58Yeah, he kept screaming, like, go on, my son.
- 31:01Yeah, it's literally that. Oh, my God. Yes. The
- 31:07line. He said the line. He did. It was pretty
- 31:10fun. And he knew who Bomek was, so I was like,
- 31:14alright, you're cool. Yeah, go on, son. But yeah,
- 31:21that was a... Overall, it was a fun experience.
- 31:24The crowds are... They have more crowd engagement.
- 31:30They have songs and stuff that everybody knows.
- 31:35what to do. That sounds a lot more fun than being
- 31:38in a warehouse. Fucking Riyadh. Yeah. But you
- 31:47know what? Let me say this, though. I think...
- 31:49You guys think Eubank's done? Oh, yeah. Sounds
- 31:52like it. There's no way he, like, rebounds. You
- 31:58guys don't think so? I don't... He's been talking
- 32:00like he's done. So, I don't think his heart's
- 32:04in it anymore. Okay, okay. Well, maybe we'll
- 32:10see him one day, maybe not. But if not, then
- 32:12Conor Benn took that rematch. And he fucking
- 32:16fucked him up. So, I gotta give my hat off to
- 32:21fucking Conor Benn. All respect to him. Off to
- 32:26Ryan Garcia. Before we get to ring four, really
- 32:34quickly, did you guys catch the Japanese card
- 32:36with Takuma Inoue? I didn't watch all of the
- 32:42main, but I did watch Carlos Cuadras fight. Yeah,
- 32:47Tomoya Suboi beats the fucking piss out of a
- 32:50very, very old Carlos Cuadras. Yeah. That was
- 32:56pretty sad. Pretty obvious. Carlos Cuadras is
- 33:00like almost 40. I think he's done after that.
- 33:03It showed. Yeah, I think he's done too. He has
- 33:07to be done. He's like a fucking... He's killing
- 33:10himself in there at that point. Asking for some
- 33:13fucking CT. He's got to hang him up, dude. Yeah.
- 33:17He had a good run. And in the main event, Takuma
- 33:23Inoue fucking embarrasses Tenshin Asakawa, who
- 33:26did not cry this time. So, that's cool. I know
- 33:32Shinada was happy. She was. Shinada was so happy.
- 33:37Yeah, I had to grovel being the tension fanboy
- 33:42that I am. Mr. Japanese Lomachenko? Yeah. That
- 33:49ain't short milk. Accurate to being the Japanese
- 33:52Lomachenko. He lost. That's true. It's Kaleo.
- 33:57You ate crow and I ate crow too. Speaking of
- 34:00eating crow, let's get to it. We're going to
- 34:03start with it. Sorry, sorry. I'm looking at a
- 34:07tank tweet that just got deleted. Justin? Is
- 34:12it the one where he's threatening Ray Jackson's
- 34:14kid? Ray's daughter? Yeah. That's fucking weird.
- 34:17That is messed up. Jesus Christ, man. You definitely
- 34:21beat that woman. I'll tell you that. Just make
- 34:23him fight Subaru Matias already, Al. Come on.
- 34:29All right. Make him fight fucking Amanda Serrano
- 34:31or something. I don't know. That's got to be
- 34:35cut. That's got to be cut? That's got to be cut.
- 34:39I was saying that like Amanda Serrano is going
- 34:42to beat his ass. That's too good, bro. Sorry.
- 34:47I was saying that in support of Bennis Ronald.
- 34:50I think she'll kick his ass. Cut to the ramen
- 34:51spot. No, cut to the... Ah, shit. Well, that's
- 34:53why he's not in fucking ramen anymore. Sorry,
- 34:55guys. That's why, bro. Where's fuck? Do the Patreon
- 34:59you go. Oh, my God. Eating Crow. Devin Haney.
- 35:09Fucking... Knocks down Brian Norman Jr. He looked
- 35:13good for welterweight. Like, at welterweight,
- 35:15he looked good. Yeah, he looked fantastic. Well,
- 35:22not fantastic, but he looked... He didn't look
- 35:26as scared shitless as he did. To all the B -Side
- 35:31listeners that have been listening to my voice
- 35:33ever since I started this podcast, a little -known
- 35:35story if you guys are barely more of a recent
- 35:38listener. The reason I'm on this podcast is because
- 35:41of Brian Norman Jr. And I tried to tell him,
- 35:44Leo, that... that he could put some problems
- 35:48against Boots. Man, I ate some fucking crow that
- 35:53night. I'm not going to lie. I was about to cry.
- 35:56I was pissed. And, you know, I was just yelling
- 35:59at the TV like, Norman, come on. Seriously? Do
- 36:03something, dude. Come on. You know, keep your
- 36:05head off center. Remember, I told you guys, the
- 36:08biggest problem is going to be if he doesn't
- 36:09keep his head off center line. You were like,
- 36:11go on, son. Go on, my son. Go on, my son. The
- 36:16thing with Norman is that, honestly, at near
- 36:19the end, he was adjusting, but not enough to
- 36:21the point where he'd win the fight. That knockdown
- 36:24broke the heart of fucking everybody that was
- 36:28rooting for him. Because the rest of those first,
- 36:31like, what, two or three rounds? They were pretty
- 36:33good. It was a fun fight. And then after that,
- 36:36it was just a classic Haney clinch fest, you
- 36:38know? So we got to deal with more Haney in the
- 36:41future, and Norman will... You know what? I fully
- 36:47agree with all the Haney fans. He's ready for
- 36:52the best. Give him Boots, Crawford, and Benavidez
- 36:56back -to -back -to -back eight weeks apart each.
- 37:00I want to see Haney go against Boots. I'm officially
- 37:04on the Haney hate train. I've seen enough. Haney
- 37:07can do it. Boots, Crawford, Benavidez back -to
- 37:10-back -to -back. Then Usyk as the final boss.
- 37:13Yeah, Usyk four weeks after Benavidez. Sounds
- 37:18lovely. All jokes aside, I got to give my hats
- 37:22off to Devin Haney. No, everybody doubted him,
- 37:24and I doubted him severely. I thought he was
- 37:29going to get knocked out. Obviously, he didn't.
- 37:32He got the nod, so hats off to him. Devin Haney,
- 37:37we'll see you against Ryan Garcia as well. Two
- 37:41bums. Two bums. I'm not quite off the Haney hate
- 37:46train. Maybe Norman was worse than projected
- 37:48because we did fall for top -ranked lies. Well,
- 37:53I will say this, that if they get him a good
- 37:57trainer, he could come back maybe a couple fights.
- 37:59Give him like five, six more fights, he'll probably
- 38:02be back in title contention again. Yes, and someone
- 38:05will believe top -ranked lies once again. Yeah,
- 38:09but honestly, I'm going to still follow Brian
- 38:12Norman Jr. I'm not going to get on that. I got
- 38:14to get on that Brian Norman Jr. hate watch. I'm
- 38:18still on that train just because, you know, I
- 38:22have to. You don't have to. Your agenda is your
- 38:27agenda. You know, I got to stick with the guy.
- 38:30I got to stick with him. Okay, fair enough. Going
- 38:32down with the ship? Oh, I'm going to go down
- 38:34with that fucking ship, baby. Saul's a good captain.
- 38:40I will guide that shit. I mean, if he ever comes
- 38:43back, you know, beats boots, fuck. You're a good
- 38:46captain. Nah, but for all intents and purposes,
- 38:50I don't see Brian Ramsey Jr. coming back at the
- 38:52top of contention for years. You know? So I wish
- 38:58him the best. I really sincerely hope that he
- 39:00comes back. And better than ever. With a better
- 39:03trainer, too. Abdullah Mason. Clean Sam Noakes'
- 39:10fucking clocks. Fire to your contender. Yeah,
- 39:17I was really shocked at how rugged Noakes was
- 39:20because he was getting pieced up and he just
- 39:23did not quit. He got that dog in him. I forgot
- 39:27we didn't have a podcast for this card. My take
- 39:30was that Dylan Mason fought an incredibly stupid
- 39:33fight that made Noakes look better than he is.
- 39:35Yes. Yeah, I agree, but Noakes held out. He put
- 39:39up a fight. You could hear his corner say, stick
- 39:48him with your jab and then take him. If he just
- 39:56listened to his corner, it isn't even an adjustment
- 39:58that he could have made this hypothetically.
- 40:00His corner was giving him the adjustment. Because
- 40:03every time Mason got full leverage on the shot,
- 40:07On Noakes. Noakes looked like he was ready to
- 40:09go. So, like, yes, Noakes is a tough son of a
- 40:15bitch. It really helped him that Mason just smothered
- 40:20most of his work and made him look competent
- 40:22in there. Which honestly does raise some questions
- 40:25about Mason's ability to be coachable. Yeah,
- 40:28that's what I'm saying. Long -term developmentally,
- 40:30he's going to run into some issues if he doesn't
- 40:32listen to his corner. Because it's not like...
- 40:34They're giving him a complicated instruction.
- 40:36They're saying, throw your fucking jab at his
- 40:38head, please. Yeah. It's because, you know, they've
- 40:43been telling him for the longest time he's brought
- 40:45the best prospect, which he is. I got to give
- 40:47him a flower. Of course I'm going to give him
- 40:48a flower. Mason is the best prospect, right,
- 40:52that we had this year because now he's a champion,
- 40:54of course. But, you know, it's just maybe a little
- 40:59bit of ego took over. You never know. And again,
- 41:01this is what we see. There's definitely more
- 41:05behind the scenes that we don't see. 100%. This
- 41:08is like our little ideas, you know? Do you think
- 41:14he was trying to make it a spectacle for his
- 41:18title fight? He definitely wanted to stop Noakes,
- 41:22but... Yeah. Because he kept going forehead to
- 41:25forehead. That shit was weird. Yeah. That's some...
- 41:30That's a... That's a pressure fighter right there.
- 41:34He was fighting like a pressure fighter. He's
- 41:35not a pressure fighter. That's not his style.
- 41:39But it is what it is. He got the job done. But
- 41:43he really needs to learn after this. Because
- 41:45if he wasn't there with a harder puncher, he
- 41:48would have been out. Yeah. Trying to think what
- 41:55could be next for him. He needs to fight some
- 41:58fucking bums. Mokes or Mason? Mason first. Mason
- 42:06needs some time to build himself up a little
- 42:13more because he's only, what, 21? He's currently
- 42:17the youngest champion in boxing right now, which
- 42:19is fucking fantastic. That's a great feat. Lucas
- 42:21Boddy right there. I was just about to mention
- 42:24him. You fucking read my mind. Lucas Boddy. Similar
- 42:29to Noakes, not as tough. Will punish you if you
- 42:33decide to be a fucking idiot. But, like, he's
- 42:36old, he's smaller. Let's do the opposite. Let's
- 42:42say... What can he do that, like, you know, for
- 42:46a better competition? If he wants better competition...
- 42:49If he wants better competition... Hypothetically,
- 42:52right? Hypothetically, let's do better competition.
- 42:54Well, he can get fried by Andy Cruz. William
- 42:58Zepeda. Yeah, well, I was going to say William
- 43:01Zepeda or he can just get fried by Andy Cruz
- 43:03and we can end the Abdullah Mason experience
- 43:05there. Abdullah Mason fighting Murtaya versus
- 43:09Andy Cruz winner. If Murtaya wins that one for
- 43:12some reason, I think that would be a really good
- 43:15unification fight and that's a winnable fight
- 43:17for Mason. That's a good fight, yeah. Schofield,
- 43:20if Schofield doesn't pull out. He might stub
- 43:24his toe. Yeah, he might get poisoned again by
- 43:27Shakur Stevenson. But that fight ain't happening,
- 43:30though. The issue with Schofield now isn't even
- 43:37just his willingness to take fights. It's other
- 43:39people's willingness to sign a fight with him,
- 43:41knowing that he might just pull out for no reason.
- 43:44Yeah. I mean, it was fucking Pedro Diaz. So,
- 43:48I mean, fuck him. Jesus. Yeah. And Sam Noakes,
- 43:55I think this gave him some profile. Like you
- 43:58guys were saying, Mason's boneheadedness gave
- 44:01Sam Noakes more shine than he really deserved.
- 44:06That being said, I don't think it's going to...
- 44:09Like, Noakes is definitely going to get a nice
- 44:10payday out of it, but it will not be to his benefit
- 44:14because it's going to be... Like, it's going
- 44:17to be, let's say, the rebound of whoever loses
- 44:22between Cruz and Moritaya. Either loser beats
- 44:28him. Yeah, like he's going to end up being a
- 44:31rebound for a guy. Like now the top matchups
- 44:34are starting to slowly be made. He's going to
- 44:38be a rebound for one of the top guys who lose.
- 44:41And since they're not idiots, they're going to
- 44:44make him look like a fool. Well, Noakes is Queensberry,
- 44:47right? Yeah, but the thing is that as much as
- 44:51you want to say, oh, Frank won't cash him out.
- 44:54For a Saudi percentage cut, for, like, for the
- 44:57Saudis, he'll cash anyone out. Yeah, for the
- 45:00Saudi milk machine, no. Like, be real, like,
- 45:03was the only reason for Usyk -Dubois 2 to happen,
- 45:09realistically, was, like, yeah, undisputed or
- 45:13whatever, but really, that was cashing Dubois
- 45:15out on a Saudi card. Saudi -sponsored card. So
- 45:22Frank would totally cash him out, especially
- 45:24Noakes. Noakes is a 28 -year -old lightweight
- 45:31whose boxing skills are not enough to beat any
- 45:36other top guy. So you kind of want to cash him
- 45:40out before he gets a loss domestically or in
- 45:46Europe. What weight is Josh Padley? Padley is
- 45:53also... He's a Josh Padley thug. That would be
- 45:58a bad fight. That's a good rebound. That's actually
- 46:02a perfect rebound. Yeah. Padley is a super featherweight.
- 46:09But, again, Shakur dragged him up to 135. He's
- 46:14going to say he fought Shakur at 135. Yeah, he
- 46:17fought... He got that stoppage win. After that,
- 46:22the 135. And then he moved down to 130. So you
- 46:27can totally bring him back up to 135 to fight
- 46:29Noakes for a Noakes rebound. Before cashing Noakes
- 46:34out again. But the thing is that Padley's matchroom.
- 46:41Yeah, I was going to say cross promo. Probably
- 46:43not going to happen. So how willing are you if
- 46:45you're Eddie Hearn? Because that would be cashing
- 46:48Padley out. For no real gain. Maybe they gained
- 46:56some favor with Turkey. You know where it could
- 46:59happen? If they did another 5v5. I would not
- 47:06want to see another 5v5. That was some... Oh,
- 47:08the 5v5 was a mess. But I'm saying that's probably
- 47:10the best spot for a Padley -Nokes fight. Yeah.
- 47:14I guess, yeah. You're right. Oh, shit. Oh, now
- 47:23we're getting to the really good stuff. Bam knocks
- 47:27out Puma Martinez in 10. Beautiful performance.
- 47:36I think probably the best performance of his
- 47:38career. Yeah. I don't know. For Bam, I have a
- 47:45special fondness for that first, like the fight
- 47:48that put him on the map. Yeah. It was Quadrus,
- 47:52right? Yeah, as old as Quadrus was, whatever,
- 47:56I do have a special fondness for moving up two
- 48:00weights, fighting Quadrus on no notice and beating
- 48:06him up. I think, yeah, this one and that one,
- 48:11I hold them both in high regard. Probably that
- 48:14one, the one that put him on the spot is probably
- 48:16the most famous, but this one I think is really,
- 48:18probably was a hard fight. I'll give... See,
- 48:23on one end, he beat Kazuto. See, it's hard to
- 48:26rate Puma accurately because he did beat Kazuto
- 48:30Ioka and Ankahas. They're both old. And he's
- 48:38also old. He's 34 at super flyweight and Ioka's
- 48:4236. Ankahas is 33. At super flyweight, you're...
- 48:49Like, you're going to break a hip, buddy. So,
- 48:54I do respect Bam for actually, like, this guy.
- 48:56Like, Puma is good. It's just, like, it's hard
- 49:00to rate wins at the lower weight classes that
- 49:02are, like, the absolute creme de la creme. Well,
- 49:06you got to weigh him based on, you know, on the
- 49:09weight class itself, you know? Undefeated title
- 49:11holder. Undefeated title holder. It's a good
- 49:14win. But I'm saying, like... The fights that
- 49:18are going to end up defining him are still down
- 49:20the road, and I don't think he wins either of
- 49:22them. Like, he's going to be... He's going to
- 49:27be... He's obviously great and very good, but,
- 49:31like, you know, there's... It's a very steep
- 49:35cliff between that and, like, you're the best
- 49:37of your era at these weights. I think he gets
- 49:44that Nakatani fight if any beats him. That is
- 49:47me. I think he's going to fight Willy Baldo for
- 49:49the last belt first. If he wins, right? Yeah,
- 49:55he's going to get that last belt, but I think
- 49:56he will end up fighting either Inoue or Nakatani,
- 50:00and that's going to be his career fight. That's
- 50:04what we're making. I don't like it happening
- 50:07sooner than later for Bam, just because, like...
- 50:12Both of them, right, like, the thing is that
- 50:14losing, he's going to lose to Inoue right now,
- 50:16but Inoue might get older and it becomes a winnable
- 50:18fight. And with Nakatani, losing to Nakatani
- 50:24is more than just, oh, you lose back to the drawing
- 50:27board. Like, it is, it's likely a career -altering
- 50:35beating if he loses to Nakatani. Well, you never
- 50:38know how Nakatani loses to Inoue. If Nakatani
- 50:41loses in a way bad, then you're going to have
- 50:44to reevaluate that. That's what I mean by a matter
- 50:45of time. Like, if you made Bam Nakatani next,
- 50:48like, Bam loses and it's not a pretty loss. They're
- 50:55not risking that fight with fucking Nakatani
- 50:57in any way. Yeah. Well, they already kind of
- 51:00are, but... Yeah, the turkey curse. I'm feeling
- 51:06really bad about that one. I'm pretty sure we're
- 51:08going to talk about it next week, right? On the
- 51:10next one. Yeah. I'll get into more on that one,
- 51:14but that's going to go bad, I think. Bam's in
- 51:18a good spot right now. Finish unifying the division
- 51:22and see what your options are then. But there's
- 51:24no rush to go fight Inoue or Nakatani. There's
- 51:32good fights at 118. Oh, yeah. There's on Inoue
- 51:37that he can beat. Yeah. Seiya Tsutsumi. He's
- 51:43a fun style. You know what? Make Bam tension.
- 51:48Bam tension and let's make Shinada happy. We're
- 51:53going to be in a battle of the angles, man. Let's
- 51:57make Shinada happy when Bam beats the hell out
- 51:59of tension. Speaking of beating the hell out
- 52:07of, David Benavidez stops Anthony Yard in seven.
- 52:14That was a fun fight. With the comms, not with
- 52:21the comms, with that crowd, it made it boring
- 52:22in my opinion. That sounds weird, but the way
- 52:26I saw it, if the fighters fighting themselves,
- 52:30that was fucking gangbusters. A crowd? You need
- 52:35a crowd. You definitely need a crowd. I can't
- 52:38keep watching these fights in Saudi anymore.
- 52:39It's horrible. It's more lively crowds when they
- 52:42were doing fights in the COVID bubble. Oh, yeah.
- 52:46Those fake crowds, too. I gotta say, the fight
- 52:49itself went pretty much as expected. I don't
- 52:57think anyone expected the fight to go any differently.
- 52:59We did get the clip of Yard holding on to Benavidez's
- 53:03arm for dear life and getting punched like 30
- 53:05times with the one arm. At first, from seeing
- 53:08it from that angle originally, I thought that
- 53:10Yard or that Benavidez was holding his head.
- 53:12I thought so too. Look at Yard just grabbing
- 53:16on for dear life to his arm. Like, fucking hilarious.
- 53:23The one thing I had to say about it is that color
- 53:26afterwards. I understand that Azul and Ramirez
- 53:29fight is big, quote -unquote, for the Mexican
- 53:33community, but we all want to see that better
- 53:37BF fight. I think that should have been the next
- 53:39fight, in my opinion. I don't think... BF and
- 53:42better BF are both on huge layoffs because of
- 53:45injuries or whatever, and also kind of only interested
- 53:48in each other. Because for whatever reason, they're
- 53:531 -1. I don't get that, though. If the time is
- 53:59there, it gives you another title and makes it
- 54:02important to beat it again. It's stupid, but
- 54:04let's be real. Better BF at his advanced age
- 54:08could just become decrepit overnight. He has
- 54:12a history of injuries, nagging injuries, too.
- 54:15He's old. It's pretty... It's pretty likely at
- 54:21this point that Benavidez just beats him. Yeah.
- 54:25Which is, like, not what BetterBF wants, obviously.
- 54:30But it would be a hell of a fight. And Bibble
- 54:32doesn't really care because he's rehabbing his
- 54:35back surgery, yeah. Yeah. So, for BetterBF, it's
- 54:39easier to just wait and get that extra Saudi
- 54:42payday with Bibble than at age 40. Getting sent
- 54:47to the back of the line because Benavidez beats
- 54:49you. Right. That's true. That's true. The one
- 54:57thing I do got to say if he fights Zurdo is that
- 55:02he's going to beat him. And that might make some
- 55:04money with an Opetai fight because Opetai right
- 55:05now, especially after what happened recently,
- 55:08he's looking like he's on fire. I think that
- 55:12fight might materialize to be something bigger.
- 55:15We'll see. What can Anthony Yard do from here?
- 55:32Is he relegated to the B tier? Is this a permanent
- 55:37relegation? He's been in the B tier. Now he's
- 55:40stuck. The cracks were there when he lost to
- 55:47Lennon Arthur the first time. He probably won't
- 55:52win a world title. No, unfortunately not. But
- 55:56you know what? I got to respect that he put up
- 55:58a good fight against Benavidez. And you know
- 56:01what? He wasn't hurting Benavidez, but he was
- 56:03catching him. I mean, I guess, but I think he's
- 56:11definitely slowed down. A good bit of his power
- 56:13comes from his speed, and he just doesn't have
- 56:17it. Because, like, those are shots that, like,
- 56:19they came fast enough at better BF to at least
- 56:22make him think twice. Benavidez, it just kind
- 56:26of just rolled him over. Oh, yeah. And I think,
- 56:30like, he's definitely over the hill because he's
- 56:33a very, he's an athletic guy, right? Yeah, definitely.
- 56:37He's over the hill for sure. He's been in wars.
- 56:40Again, he's been badly stopped three times. Oh,
- 56:46they even docked Benavidez the two points for
- 56:48hitting him while he was down. Yeah, that's...
- 56:52Yard probably could have milked that for the
- 56:57Glenn Johnson. Milk it for the DQ? Yeah, the
- 57:04Glenn Johnson DQ. But what I want to see next
- 57:08for Anthony Yard is honestly a Callum Smith fight.
- 57:11I think that would be a great regional fight
- 57:13where people will buy tickets and... Maybe not
- 57:15pay -per -view, but it would be a good watch
- 57:18for the Brits. Oh, you know they'd put that on
- 57:23pay -per -view. Yeah. I'd watch that, too. I'm
- 57:28not, you know... I can't say that on here, but,
- 57:31you know, I'm not... I'm not gonna be a... Hey,
- 57:35they'll suck the money out of your ass. Out of
- 57:39my ass? I don't know about that. Maybe someone
- 57:41like Lin, but, I mean... Oh, shit. We are making
- 57:53good time, actually. Montel Griffin. He could
- 57:56have done the Montel Griffin. There we go. I
- 58:00had to look up my reference. Well, anything more
- 58:06for Ring 4? Let's see. Two minutes. Benavidez
- 58:12flies. Norman dies. Did I say two bums already?
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- 1:00:56Not a lot on the preview side. Fucking bash boxing
- 1:01:03promotions. It's going to be on Prime. Badu Jack
- 1:01:07vs. Norair Makalian. Is this the one on YouTube?
- 1:01:12Is it going to be on YouTube? I saw it was going
- 1:01:15to be on Prime. Oh, no. One of them was on YouTube.
- 1:01:19One of the previews. Let me see. Uh... No, no.
- 1:01:25It's Gassi Apulef that's on YouTube. Which isn't
- 1:01:29on this. Oh, shit. It's going to be on YouTube.
- 1:01:36It's some bullshit with Nico Ali Walsh and then
- 1:01:39Kubrat Pulev. Oh, then IBA. Yeah, IBA Pro 13.
- 1:01:46All right. Clearly not that important, honestly.
- 1:01:50No one wants to watch Nico Ali Walsh. Oh, but
- 1:01:54I want to see him do the Ali shuffle some more.
- 1:01:58Lose a majority decision to a high school teacher
- 1:02:01while doing the Ali shuffle. Hey, did you guys
- 1:02:04know that this guy might have been related to
- 1:02:06Muhammad Ali? Yeah, maybe. Hard to believe. I
- 1:02:11would have heard about that much sooner. Same
- 1:02:13name, different social security number. Two bums?
- 1:02:18Yeah, two bums. Badu Jack, Norair McHalean, WBC
- 1:02:24Cruiserweight title. Rematch. Enjoy. Oh, shit.
- 1:02:33Matchroom on DAZN in Stockton, California. Just
- 1:02:38going to cherry pick on my way up here. Shavon
- 1:02:40Clark versus Anthony Holloway. Arturo Popoca.
- 1:02:45It's a fun name. Sweet, sweet Sky Nicholson versus
- 1:02:52Yulia Luna Vila. And back from the dead, Gabe
- 1:02:59Flores Jr. vs. Joe Cordina. And then Diego Pacheco
- 1:03:05headlining vs. Kevin Lele Sajo. Is Sajo any good?
- 1:03:12I don't know. I've never seen him before. Lovely.
- 1:03:1626 -0. He's a Frenchman. Yeah, he's from Cameroon.
- 1:03:20Lives in France now. Fights almost exclusively
- 1:03:22in France. Nickname is The Punisher. Hey, wasn't
- 1:03:27it about a year ago, wasn't it the 13th, that
- 1:03:29a certain Mexican got knocked out by a Frenchman?
- 1:03:34French super middleweight? I love it. Is that
- 1:03:36happened about a year ago, right? Am I tripping?
- 1:03:39Oh, Jesus. You know what? If Pacheco starts blocking
- 1:03:41punches with his face, we'll let you know. Shit,
- 1:03:44okay. I think I might got Sajo. Just because
- 1:03:48of that. Can't doubt the French anymore. Oh,
- 1:03:52yeah. And then I got Sajo, and then now I got...
- 1:03:56fucking Cordina. That's it, though. That's all
- 1:04:03we got on the previews. It's a light weekend.
- 1:04:11Hot diggity. Hot diggity. Go out with your family
- 1:04:15and watch the fight on the phone. Oh, yeah. When
- 1:04:20I was talking with Shanada about it, I was like,
- 1:04:23yeah, this might be a good weekend to If you
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- 1:04:28DAZN will be there when you get back. Oh, yeah.
- 1:04:32Yeah, 100%. If you can do something else, fucking
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- 1:04:42out. Hell no. Actually, we're not about to get
- 1:04:45sued. I'm not about to say that. We're going
- 1:04:46to get sued. Let them suck the money out of your
- 1:04:50ass. But, yeah. Just watch the fight while you're
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- 1:04:57with your kids, watch the fight. You can tell
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- 1:08:26takes. Let us know why you think Norman's going
- 1:08:29to come back. Or not. He's going to beat Haney
- 1:08:32in the rematch. Hell yeah. Let us know. Hex Cobb.
- 1:08:40He ran out of time. I know you're listening.
- 1:08:47I don't know why you took my food the other night,
- 1:08:49but okay. So yeah, parting words. I'll start
- 1:08:56the parting words this time. If you can, I know
- 1:09:00it's difficult these days, but if you can, travel.
- 1:09:04Go do stuff in places other places even if it's
- 1:09:10just like a the next city over or something go
- 1:09:13see other places it's good for your brain i'm
- 1:09:22gonna do the last one you do you go next josh
- 1:09:24trying to think about my parting words i don't
- 1:09:27have one right now pro box good two bums pro
- 1:09:31box pro box good is always a good one Isn't Pro
- 1:09:34Bucks coming up? Wasn't there even a Pro Bucks?
- 1:09:38Yeah, it's next week. Okay. Okay, yeah. Pro Bucks,
- 1:09:42good. Alright, well. My parting words are going
- 1:09:50to be Bam, I love you. Norman, you can do better
- 1:09:55next time. I hope you come back. Benavidez, great
- 1:09:58job. Please fight better, B. One thing I do want
- 1:10:02to say that I think I just want to get out the
- 1:10:05way, honestly. If we have any Saudi people listening,
- 1:10:10when I say the word the Saudis, if I say those
- 1:10:13words, I don't mean you guys. You guys are great.
- 1:10:15I love all my fans, but I love all the fans of
- 1:10:17this pod. Any Saudis. And also, I wasn't paid
- 1:10:20by the Saudi government to say this, by the way.
- 1:10:22I wish. The Saudi government, if you'd like to
- 1:10:25pay us, we will change our opinions for the bag.
- 1:10:29I'll take the bag and then, you know, thumb the
- 1:10:31fuck off, but, you know. I will change my opinions
- 1:10:35for the bag. Maybe if you slide a couple... A
- 1:10:39couple stacks. A couple stacks, maybe. By the
- 1:10:42way, when I say the Saudis, I don't mean the
- 1:10:44people. The people are beautiful. When I say
- 1:10:46the Saudis, I mean the Saudi government and Turkey.
- 1:10:49I just want to clear that up. And I wanted to
- 1:10:51end it off the pot with something that Leo used
- 1:10:54to do that I've actually haven't heard him do
- 1:10:55in a while. It's a quote. Oh, shit. A quote.
- 1:10:59Quote of the day. I want to do a quote, actually.
- 1:11:02I wanted a quote from George Foreman. To be successful
- 1:11:07in life, you must get in the habit of turning
- 1:11:09negatives into positives. So, Norman, you got
- 1:11:13to turn the negative into positive. That's all
- 1:11:16I got. I love my people. Love you guys. See you
- 1:11:20guys next time. All right. That's it for this
- 1:11:23edition of the Boxing B -Sides. Fucking see you
- 1:11:27on the other side of your... Hit me up. Let me
- 1:11:30know what you did instead of staying inside and
- 1:11:32watching these fucking abysmal cards.