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Matthew Chapter 13: Bible Study by Atheists · Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists

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  [SPEAKER_00]: husband.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you know what we're doing today?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, last time we read an episode it was Matthew chapter 12.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure stuff was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and in that one we had Jesus working on the Sabbath and we had him get in there were there fighting with the Pharisees or something and then there was also the Queen of Sheva made this
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The queen of the cells.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Queen of the cell, I'm sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know that it was the queen of sheep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't make a surprise appearance, but she had mentioned, which was like, damn.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesus' mom and brother showed up, and he wouldn't talk to him, because he's like, nah, you ain't my family.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These are my family.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'll tell you who my family is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't tell me who my family is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I tell you who my family is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And if I was his mom, I would have hurt feelings.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I would, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just I didn't like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of ridiculous man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like who's the fuck?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think you is sir?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, before we get into today's episode, I do have one announcement to make and that is that we do have a new patreon number.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Michael.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is all we do because like that would be so cool.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That would be fun.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It really would.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that being said, uh, we just got done with it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Matthew chapter 12, which means that today we're going to be reading.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Little Maddie chapter 13 and things again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Markham.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We are getting into little Matty chapter 13.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and it's a doozy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he said it was long.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that Jesus got a lot to say.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not thrilled about it Not looking forward to it because I'm telling you Jesus has been pissing me off.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I'm not saying I don't like the way last chapter went.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It made me kind of unhappy with them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not coming across as wonderful and great as I thought he was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually, I had one of our Patreon members recommend a podcast episode and I can't remember everything like the name or anything like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll link to it in the show notes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But
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  [SPEAKER_01]: it basically says that, you know, the part of it was that Christians stayed don't follow any of Jesus the saints.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, so we're not crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, it's a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And also, you know, if they, whatever, this whole thing is so, it's so not right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so apparent to what we know about Christianity, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so not right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You were very sensitive.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The episode other than it was just, it was a very, it kind of confirmed some of my thoughts and some of my ideas and I really appreciated it, which I guess I'll probably like do it in the show.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say, what was the name of the podcast?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a radio freak Europe.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's glad you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll all link in the show.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Radio something something something like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's something about Europe.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just in there and it was a really good episode It's like two and a half.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little over two and a half hour long.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And you don't remember what the title of the episode was even good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got the better part of today listening to the episode.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But, no, I don't.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I'm so glad that you brought that to the table.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I listen to a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I see.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to link to it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me in the show now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, we remember to do that better than we have in the past.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not very good at that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I will try really hard too today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, ready?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That same day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That same day.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're never done this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There was.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's at a party.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a party with his, with his guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the music on boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was women.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Bye, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And somebody's like, yo, your mom's here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, don't tell me who my mom is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's more like, whom I always swords, though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they had swords.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's, he's, he's, bring a sword.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Jesus said about swords.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but that was a metaphorical sword.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know I was trying to be funny and then you fucked it all up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what that reminds me of we have any of us heard of we didn't just yet, but that reminds me, remember when there was the withered hand.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then somebody else, um, some, oh, because we read it on Tuesday, which is when we do our live discourse every Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody in the discord said that that was totally Dumbledore's with her hand from Harry Potter for and that cracked my shit up because yeah, he had a with her hand right from the Bible All right, so that same day that Jesus did his mom.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jesus went out of the house and set by the lake
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  [SPEAKER_01]: have to think about his actions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You go sit by that lake and think about what you did.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it while the people stood on the shore.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, fuck you all leave me alone.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to brood.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then he told them many things in parables.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I think this chapter is about parables.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, saying.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He went out, he went, he was on the shore, and then they all gathered around.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm one out of boat, and I'm gonna speak to you from out there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, fuck me, okay, fine, I'll give you guys some fucking words from out here on my fucking boat since you won't leave me alone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Was that like a stage, his boat is his stage?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: My boat is my stage.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that the name of a nothing?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, correct.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So here's a parable, ready?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Ready, Inc.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So you know it's.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus said it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A farmer went out to sow his seed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path and the birds came and ate it up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As they would.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Some fell on rocky places where it did not have much soil.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's bringing up quickly because the soil was shallow, but when the sun came up, the plants were scorched and they whithered because they had no root.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Other seeds fell among thorns which grew up and choked the plants.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Still, other seeds fell on good soil where it produced a crop, 160 or 30 times what was shown,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so he was saying, so it's going to be much better and you'll get you get such a large return.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's you'll no one's ever seen a return like this before.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest return.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the biggest you've ever seen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody has bigger.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: from returns than the Jesus people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, just so you know, that parable is called the parable of the soar.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is also the name of a book obviously came from that by Octavia Butler.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it is fucking fabulous.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Highly recommend parable of the soar Octavia Butler.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Go read it now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You heard it here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to point one thing out here with regard to that parable if you are a person well if you're a person who shows seeds right if you are a person who planned if you're a farmer you're a fucking farmer yeah you know not throw your goddamn seeds on rocks you know throw them in fucking thorns like it's such a it's such a silly
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's what they know so he's saying do you hear what I'm saying you fucks right like I'm drawing words out And I'm throwing them every which way to the wind but only some will land on good soil right I get these just making a point But that's a silly easy lazy play you're these are those bumper stickerisms.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great All right the disciples came to him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did they come to him on his boat
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And asked, why do you speak to the people in parables, bro?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And at the bruh.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And they say disciples not apostles.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He did, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Which I heard in that episode that I was talking about earlier, that maybe the disciples, there was more of the disciples.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There were.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the apostles with, there was always 12 apostles.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of rotate apparently a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because, but because there's like some, some screen up of that a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's always 12 apostles.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously for the 12 tribes, probably, or something.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the disciples were signings.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it could have been many because that's where like Mary Magdalene comes from.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's all his students.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all his students.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas the 12 apostles were his specific commissions represented it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But those could have rotated.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought that was an interesting thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that that is interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like those were positions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: like kind of yeah official position for something okay so anyway they're like why are you talking in parables bro he replied in red ink because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you the cycles but not to them whoever has will be given more and they will have an abundance whoever does not have even what they have will be taken from them
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like how it's expensive to be poor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what that reminds me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's talking about the knowledge of the kingdom of heaven here because in my understanding of Jesus the less you have the better off you are when you get into the kingdom of heaven.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is why I speak to them in parables and he's quoting from Isaiah here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I just like my eyes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The picture is probably almost entirely wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I only know that there's quote marks and I was like, Oh, Lord, who's the fucking quoting here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then my eyes scooted ahead and saw Isaiah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Pop out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's quoting somebody.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming it's Isaiah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Though seeing they do not see, though hearing they do not hear or understand, in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, you will be ever hearing but never understanding, you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: For this people's heart has become calloused, they hardly hear what their ears and they have closed their eyes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise they might see what their eyes hear what their ears understand what their hearts and turn and I would heal them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But blessed are your, okay, that was the end of that quote.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But blessed are your eyes because they see and your ears, because they hear.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I think, if I, again, just kind of extrapolated here, but like it feels like he's saying knowledge of God, they, his disciples and his apostles or whatever, they have the knowledge of God, whereas these people, he's trying to explain them to them in such a way,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: because they don't understand, because they don't see you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't hear.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I have to dummy down the message because they're dummies.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's God for idiots.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like, they're god for dummies.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're dodo brains.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're silly dumb people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I have to give them baby cock-awords.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And his followers are like, oh, right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: for truly I tell you many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, but did not see it and to hear what you hear, but did not hear it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well let's take this from you and I have had similar experiences where we know something that somebody else in it feels like they're just like willingly don't want to learn or don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more often the case that they just don't have enough knowledge to even make that leap to that point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But from your point of view, it's just like, like, when, when, when,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: when we talk, when I talk to anybody about computers, for example, that's a layman person.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like to me, like they're, you know, not with it, they're not, they're not, they're kind of dumb about it, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, oh yeah, and they probably are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In reality.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I am.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know way more about computers than the average person.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so those are those things where obviously Jesus, the Son of God is going to know way more about God than these people that are on the shore that he's, you know, talking to from the boat.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And his disciples are apparently yelling at him from the shore.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So his disciples are like, where are you giving them stories?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they on the boat with him or did they like row a separate boat out to?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just assume that since he's talking to people from the boat, he's not that far out and they're just kind of talking to him from the shore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's telling his people who are standing right next to the people he's talking to That would be my take.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I mean, I don't see any other way to do it if you're on a boat I don't know that all sounds weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right now we're like next paragraph.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, then, to what the parable of the soar means.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's going to explain it to us in his room.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sewn in their heart.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the seed sewn along the path.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But since they have no root, they last only a short time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: when trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruple.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, 60 or 30 times what was sung.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: you're okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I get that's kind of like the same way and try to then.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you for breaking that down.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were going to go deeper than good as good and that is bad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Simple as simple.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was pretty straightforward, but okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's even 2000 years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I still got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Moving along.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I just
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit gobsmacked because I like was like, oh, he's going to explain it better.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought he was actually, nope.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got it.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was just contextualized it with regard to.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: worshipings God.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got it.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got exactly what he was talking about.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're not dumbies, but majority of the people in the crowd must have had.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't feel like the Bible is all that difficult right now.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is pretty simple stuff.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Most of the time, there's some questions that I don't understand fully because of time and context.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: The general speaking stuff is pretty straightforward.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just got to pay attention to what he's saying.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that hard.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, here's another parable ready.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus told them another parable.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here we go and read it from the boat.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kingdom of heaven is like a man who's so good seed in his field while everyone was sleeping.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: His enemy came and soared weeds among the wheat and went away.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: The owner's servants came to him and said, Serving, you so good seed in your field, where then did the weeds come from?
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And enemy did this, he replied.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: The servants asked him, do you want us to go and pull them up?
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, he answered because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let both grow together until the harvest.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: At that time, I will tell the harvesters, first collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have harvest, harvest.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: This feels more like the kingdom of heaven is on earth so.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because the parable is relating, why would there be bad in quote unquote Christian heaven, right?
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the bad would have to be the people here on earth.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's not saying this is the kingdom of heaven.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's saying the kingdom of heaven is like a man who's so good seed in this field.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but he's still same.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, that we'd sprung up in that kingdom of heaven.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, yeah, I did some research on that for the Q&A.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we were not far off the mark there with our, that's not to keep touching.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that episode, I listen to, also,
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Confirmed that as well.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're kind of smart sometimes accidentally go us All right, we're doing another parable now ready.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He told them another parable.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go and read ink I know I'm excited.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have heard that.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: which a man took and planted in his field, though it is the smallest of all seeds.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree so that the birds come and perch in its branches.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Lots of plant and stuff here.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, we're doing another pair of them out.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You must be talking to farmers.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is next to water, so apparently he is talking to good for a land nearby, and you know, so we're doing another pairable.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another pairable, okay?
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He told them still another pairable.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, and ready, and can we go?
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about 60 pounds of flour.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: About 60 pounds.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Until it worked all through the dough.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how much how much yeast he put in 60 pounds of dough?
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I don't like any time they say a woman has yeast, it just doesn't feel right.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're done with those for now.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, that was a little parable?
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those were all different parable.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, what was it?
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just want to get?
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was, it was just one sentence.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was like yeast that a woman took a mix into about 60 pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay?
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I mean, I feel like they could have been better.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I get it.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like, that's just a really bad parent.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, ready?
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus spoke all these things to the crowd in parables.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did not say anything to them without using a parable.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So was fulfilled.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was spoken through the prophet?
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will open my mouth in parables.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will other things hidden since the creation of the world.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is baby.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: God.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do do.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could do this.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Jesus speaks in parables because somebody in the Old Testament said that somebody's going to speak in parables.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that person that said that in the Old Testament
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: probably didn't even mean it about that time this it probably referenced something immediately happening the next day or next month or next year.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was in hundreds of years later.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is bullshit.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is really.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And not only that, but they're like such stupid
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know here's he has talk he has talked to people outside of parables.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're also He's people these people right now.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's only talking to them in parables while he's in his boat On this day where he's doing right now is talking to them only in parables But I tell you what
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Part of our Q&A, I'm going to come back with a few good parables, so that we can have an example of what a good parable would be because these are stupid and I hate that.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mind going to the extra work, I'm going to find some good parables.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Next section.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, we just did.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is this just like all parables?
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a paragraph?
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of story.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then he left the crowd.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he got off the boat and left the crowd.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And went into his house.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: His cyples came to him and said, uh, excuse me sir, uh, question.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously?
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's like this, it's the cypals that lenders down.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, okay, so by the buy, she just needs some new disciples.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, did you pick up the dumbest people on the planet?
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did you get it?
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not very bright.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll keep in mind these are the disciples, not the apostles, or pastor they possibly do this.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's students, but you know, it might not be the 12, you know.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I know.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cool, all right, so he's speaking now in red ink and he's going to break it down.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right, the one who's so the good seed is the son of man.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sure the son of man capital S capital M that's another thing they mentioned that episode the son of man apparently in this like when Jesus is speaking, a lot of people think that he's referencing the coming Messiah, mm-hmm.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So not himself?
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 22:37
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• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a well-known take on his own speeches that gets twisted around later by Paul and different, you know, and different.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the, some of the gospels, but they maybe interjected with information after the fact that fix all this stuff and keep in mind the gospels are written after his death anyways.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, long days, I thought that was interesting.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is interesting.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that there was a little bit of doubt on what's happening here.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it goes back to the whole kingdom of heaven is on earth as opposed to heaven and all that, like it shakes up a lot of things with regard to Christianity.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It does.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Christians don't get it.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what would be nice if the Christians just were willing to question and grow?
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: That would be cool.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they were willing to accept that, hey, maybe we didn't know everything.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we read it wrong.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we didn't read it.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And moreover, we're willing to study it with a critical eye, because why wouldn't we want to know the most about our God?
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you want to learn the way of the Lord, the word of the Lord?
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It makes the most sense to me.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you want to follow God, you should want to know what He intended.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to know what he intended, you should be willing to question what, you know, the norms are that are given to you on the everyday because if you're not then you're just accepting somebody else's idea of what God is instead of actually doing the work yourself.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But hey, what do I know about God?
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I probably quite a bit.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so here's what Jesus says.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: The field is the world.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: The weeds are the people of the evil one.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the enemy who sows them is the devil.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: always with the fucking angels are just they're keeping the crops.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The son of man will send out his angels and they will wheat.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, the son of man, some guy not me, will send out his angels.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: See?
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Weird.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: They will throw them into the blazing furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their father, whoever has ears, let them hear.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And here's the other thing that was brought to my attention.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to keep in mind, apparently Jesus was very much in this night type.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: rattle rowser.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he, as far as he's concerned, the end could have come the next day the next week, the next month.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't like some further way down the thing that was happening.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is something that you, you need to get right now because this shit is close as they all were with beyond.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's how they were rallying people around them.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So feverishly is that they had them all believing that this was happening.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Any second now.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He continues.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in the field.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: When a man found it, he hid it again and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then he continues.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Any continues?
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the edge of my seat here.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Once again, the kingdom of heaven.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: hold it up on the shore.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then they sat down and collected the good fish and baskets but through the bad way.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is how we'll be at the end of the age.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous and throw them into the blazing furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps saying, we gonna keep the good and toss the bad.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Keep the good and toss the bad.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is bad and yuck, yuck.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: or not gonna have a good time.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Great, apparently.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got it.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got it.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they don't get it, that sounds like it's a dumb problem.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is good and bad is bad.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we like good.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't like that.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like good.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, this is such a simplistic message.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think kindergarteners, we get this.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to repeat it 15 times.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, apparently he did.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And these are, these are two people that are his disciples.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're the ones that came up and were like, can you tell us what you mean?
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so then he asked them, have you understood all these things?
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus asked.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they reply.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank God.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said to them in red ink.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, every teacher of the law who has become a disciple, a student of mine, in the kingdom of heaven.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, in the kingdom of heaven.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the owner of a house who brings out of his store room New treasures as well as old.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the kingdom of heaven is on earth.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: right?
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would say that from like the first get go when you started talking, but like, it's becoming more and more apparent.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And after like, look, I don't normally listen to other stuff.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like this, the person that suggested this is suggested this multiple times.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, fine.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to listen to it.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Mike.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: but it was it was a really great episode that confirmed a lot of the ideas that I had and which is probably why that guy was recommending it to you.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, and expanded on some other ideas that I didn't quite put together fully.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it was a really cool episode and
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I don't mean to keep harping on it, but like it's it's a very relevant to this chapter specifically, so.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the kingdom of heaven is on earth.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're carrying on now.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there coming to his home town, which he hates, right?
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, um, core.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: The one the one that he's from that starts with a C that I can remember.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in the last chapter, he was trash in all his towns remember.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was like this town sucks this town sucks too.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: These towns suck so bad because they didn't repent that they're worse than saw them fuck these guys.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue and they were amazed.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where does men get this wisdom in these miraculous powers?
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, miraculous power.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are we going back to miracles here?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is the miraculous power understanding how to say a parable the same way, three tied with slightly different versions of healing and teaching?
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's teaching and healing and teaching and healing and teaching.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how Christians would have a interpretive.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: My understanding is that none of this is very Yeah, but they special they think he is though sure so they're like whoa Get zoos take a look at this guy some people think a sugar pill is is excellent too.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't this the carpenter's son?
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't his mother's name, Mary?
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: In art, his brothers, James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas aren't all his sisters with us?
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where then did this man get all these things?
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, whoa, whoa, whoa!
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: and they took a fence at him.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Jesus said to them in red ink.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: A prophet is not without honor, except in his own town and in his own home.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The end.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what he didn't do any miracles there because he didn't do many miracles.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, and he really Get a little this guy and he's like Fuck y'all look, if somebody was really doing miracles It would have been written about at the fucking time.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm sorry, but it would have
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, but it was in the Bible it was not that was written after his death.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know and that is not at all Correct.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not it.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to yell at you.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying that's you know like I want to make sure we're clear on that It was not written during his time and it was not written by Matthew Mark Luke or John Maybe John John might have written some I guess possibly
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But John, we'll cross out.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: John, we impossible or John the Baptist.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: John the earth.
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: John the Apostle.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it Matthew Mark, who can John or Matthew Mark, when you're in Paul?
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, John.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: John, John.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK. No, so never mind.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: None of them wrote that shit.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: None of them wrote that shit.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: None of them wrote that shit.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of Paul.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you were thinking of Paul.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's your favorite Paul?
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a different guy.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's too many, too many Christian names.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's too many Beatles.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, um, I don't really have anything to add.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those were dumb.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's our, um, airy diet.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are dumb.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we've already said multiple times.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are not scholars or, what, what, what?
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Neither scholars nor academic.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's your line.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and, and yeah, there was dumb.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was dumb.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll get into the scholar academic bullshit when we get to the Q&A.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is the next episode.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, when do we know how many Q&As we're going to have to do?
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm suspecting with all the material it'll probably be another two-parter.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're having to do a lot of research with the New Testament.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because they keep quoting the Old Testament and then I feel like it's necessary to pull in the quotes.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But what did that mean at the time that it was written in the Old Testament?
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then also like what the fuck is Jesus saying?
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so luckily with this chapter, I think it'll be a little less because he basically says the same parable three times like three times so like he does the whatever it's dumb.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is dumb.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I really don't see like a whole lot of research happening me down in this one that we did quote the by the old testament a couple of times.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you never know right.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that was Matthew chapter 13.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Little Maddie.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we will be back next time with Q&A.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Saturday.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely Sunday.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you then.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bye.