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Part 1 with James Comer: Tax and Wire Fraud plus Direct Payments from the CCP to the Bidens · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Last night, Senator Ted Cruz and I, after they finished
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  Speaker 1: with the whistleblower testimony in Congress, did a two part
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  Speaker 1: sit down conversation with James Comer. I'm coming to you
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  Speaker 1: live this morning from Washington, DC, and we were up
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  Speaker 1: until the am hours. My producer was up. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know if he's gone to sleep yet. So I
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  Speaker 1: apologize to him as we are doing this right now
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  Speaker 1: because this interview was so shocking. This interview was so important.
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  Speaker 1: This is an interview that needed to take place for
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  Speaker 1: you to understand exactly what has happened with the whistleblowers. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The whistle blowers, just so you understand is are came
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  Speaker 1: forward and they are some of the most brave people
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  Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. They're risking their entire careers, They're
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  Speaker 1: risking their lives to come forward. And what we learned
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  Speaker 1: about these new whistleblowers that they are both Democrats. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they are not part of and hacks. These aren't Republicans
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  Speaker 1: that are saying they want to get revenge on Trump
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  Speaker 1: or or excuse me, on Biden and the Biden you
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  Speaker 1: know regime. These are Democrats who said they weren't allowed
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  Speaker 1: to do their jobs and they are angry that they
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  Speaker 1: weren't allowed to do their jobs. Now, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you a couple of different teasers here so you
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  Speaker 1: understand how shocking what you're about to hear is. We
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  Speaker 1: learn that there are more Biden family members from James
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  Speaker 1: Comer that have gotten money than we knew before. We
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  Speaker 1: also learned from James Comber that there's more countries that
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  Speaker 1: dirty and shady money and bribes came from. We also
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  Speaker 1: learned from James Comber through these whistleblowers, that apparently payments
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  Speaker 1: went to the Biden crime family directly from the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: Communist government. Not not. I want to be clear, We're
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  Speaker 1: not talking about money coming in through a company that's
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  Speaker 1: connected with the Chinese Communist government. We're talking about direct
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  Speaker 1: wire transfers, money laundering into Biden LLC bank accounts. They
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  Speaker 1: put these shell companies up that do nothing, and the
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  Speaker 1: money was falling in from the Chinese Communist government. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to play for you some chunks of what
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  Speaker 1: was said, and you can download Verdict Ted Cruz. You
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  Speaker 1: can hear the as I co host the show with him.
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  Speaker 1: Part one is out, Part two will be out on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: but I want you to hear a substantial amount of
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  Speaker 1: what was said on this show. Listen.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want to start by asking what happened today?
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  Speaker 2: If someone's busy, they're driving to work, it's Thursday morning,
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  Speaker 2: they're driving to work, they didn't have time to turn
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  Speaker 2: on the TV yesterday, they didn't watch the testimony, So
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  Speaker 2: what did they miss? What happened in the House of
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  Speaker 2: Representatives on Wednesday?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think we had a very substantive hearing on
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  Speaker 3: a very serious subject. The subject was the Biden criminal activit,
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  Speaker 3: and the two witnesses we had were I think the
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  Speaker 3: most credible witnesses we've had in front of the oversight
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  Speaker 3: commending the entire seven years I've been in Congress. These
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  Speaker 3: were the two highest ranking IRS career employees from the
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  Speaker 3: International Tax Crime Division. So these were the guys that
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  Speaker 3: investigate all the suspicious wires, all the foreign influence, any
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  Speaker 3: type of tax evasion from foreign entities, the influx of
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  Speaker 3: illegal Chinese money. These are the guys that do that,
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  Speaker 3: and they're part of an elite team, and they're only
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  Speaker 3: twelve on this team. So this was two of the twelve,
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  Speaker 3: one sixth of the entire International Tax Fraud Team for
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  Speaker 3: the IRS, and what they had to say was very
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  Speaker 3: concerning because I never knew over the past six months
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  Speaker 3: whether or not DIRS even you about the shell companies
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  Speaker 3: that the Bidens had, if even you about all the
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  Speaker 3: suspicious activity reports that had that showed that the Bidens
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  Speaker 3: were laundering money through shell companies through various banks. You know,
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  Speaker 3: pretty serious accusation. We've been talking about this and the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats have said, well, there's no evidence, that's not true,
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  Speaker 3: that's fake news, Russian disinformation. So we finally had two
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  Speaker 3: whistleblowers come forward. They gave a transcribed interview to the
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  Speaker 3: Ways and Means Committee, which is the appropriate process of
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  Speaker 3: the ones, as you know, in the House that has
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  Speaker 3: jurisdiction over the IRS. Then they agreed to come to
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  Speaker 3: committee hearing for the House Oversight Commute. So the American
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  Speaker 3: people got to see today a six hour hearing with
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  Speaker 3: fifty members of Congress, each having six minutes to ask
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  Speaker 3: these these Irish suppsed to blowers questions, and there were
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  Speaker 3: substantive questions on the Republican side. Now, the Democrats, all
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  Speaker 3: they thought about was Trump and racism and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: But we asked very subjective questions, and what we learned
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  Speaker 3: was that the Bidens have have committed a series of crimes.
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  Speaker 3: There were many more tax evasion issues than what Hunter
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  Speaker 3: Biden pled guilty to. The IRIS whistle blowers had investigated
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  Speaker 3: this for five years and they were told to stand
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  Speaker 3: down by the Department of Justice. And what happened is
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  Speaker 3: they took so long they let a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: statues and limitations expire to where the penalties that the
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  Speaker 3: Bidens were going to have to plead guilty to kept
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  Speaker 3: shrinking and shrinking and drinking.
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  Speaker 2: There was nothing left and serving zero jail time zero
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  Speaker 2: jail time.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone else in America would already be in prison for
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  Speaker 3: the amount of money they evade.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so let's start at an initial point. These
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  Speaker 2: two whistleblowers look at an initial assessment. You've got to make.
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  Speaker 2: The House of Representatives has to make if we see
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  Speaker 2: an impeachment trial, the Senate has to make, and ultimately
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  Speaker 2: the American people have to make is are these guys credible?
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  Speaker 2: Are they telling the truth? If they're lying, that's not
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  Speaker 2: very persuasive. And so if you're trying to assess or right,
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  Speaker 2: are these credible witnesses? One of the questions you ask
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  Speaker 2: is do they have a bias? You know, if you
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  Speaker 2: have a witness who is, say a disgruntled employee that
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  Speaker 2: got fired, sometimes they make up all sorts of crazy stories.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a witness as a partisan, maybe they're,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a hardcore Republican. They hate Joe Biden, so
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  Speaker 2: they'll come in and testify to something nasty because they've
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  Speaker 2: got a political bias. So one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: I think is striking is that both of these guys
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  Speaker 2: their career IRS employees, they've spent their entire professional life
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  Speaker 2: working with the IRS. They're both Democrats. Neither of them
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  Speaker 2: are partisan Republicans. I don't know if anyone asked today,
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  Speaker 2: but I suspect neither of them voted for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good suspicion.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they've said they're Democrats, they've identified as Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: The number of career IRS employees who are Democrats who
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  Speaker 2: voted for Donald Trump, if that's not zero, it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: to durn close, very close. So that suggests there's not
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  Speaker 2: a reason on the face to doubt what they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: They still might be lying. You've got to test what
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  Speaker 2: they're saying anyone that comes forward with serious allegations of criminality,
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  Speaker 2: and to be clear, what they've alleged is criminality by
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. But look, if we were just talking about
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, he is a troubled soul, he has substance
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  Speaker 2: abuse issues. If it were just Hunter Biden, this wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be national news. But they're also a legend criminal conduct
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  Speaker 2: by Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States
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  Speaker 2: under Joe Biden. And they are ultimately a legend criminal
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  Speaker 2: conduct by Joe Biden, the sitting president of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: They were and they were headed towards Joe. They wanted
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  Speaker 3: to interview Hunter. They wanted to interview Joe Biden's grandchildren.
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  Speaker 4: When you say they, so if people understand who.
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  Speaker 2: Is they, they who are the two with us?
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  Speaker 3: There were more than two, There were seven that were
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  Speaker 3: set to interview Hunter Biden and his children.
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  Speaker 4: So they had a plan, and they had a plan.
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  Speaker 3: It was IRS employees as well as FBI employees.
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  Speaker 1: So were they working together or separately working together? So
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  Speaker 1: they all come together, they'd all agree that they should
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  Speaker 1: be and.
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  Speaker 3: Have gotten to the point to where they we need
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  Speaker 3: to knock on his door and say, hey, what where
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  Speaker 3: is all this, what's the source of this money?
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  Speaker 2: What did you do to receive this money from? You said,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to knock on his door. One of the
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  Speaker 2: things that I found really stunning is what the testimony
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  Speaker 2: was that they're getting ready to knock on Hunter Biden's door.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're doing an investigation, you knock on a
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  Speaker 2: suspects door. You want to interview them, You want to
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  Speaker 2: catch them off guard, you want to get them to
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  Speaker 2: say something they're not expecting, like you want them to
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  Speaker 2: to get them to say something stupid, because the sad
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  Speaker 2: thing is criminals really are stupid. They say all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of dumb things.
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  Speaker 1: What's crazy is that these whistle blowers told the story
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  Speaker 1: that they were not allowed to knock on Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 1: door even though they had probable cause and overwhelming evidence
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  Speaker 1: to then interview him. And what happened. The deep state
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  Speaker 2: So what did the whistleblowers tell us happen? That is
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  Speaker 2: unusual when they're getting ready to hunt knock on Hunter's.
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  Speaker 3: Door the Secret Service, because at the time they were
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  Speaker 3: going to knock on Hunter's door was at the point
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  Speaker 3: where Joe Biden just got elected president, so he had
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  Speaker 3: Secret Servers protection and he had the transition team. The
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  Speaker 3: Secret Service was notified that Hunter Biden was about to
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  Speaker 3: be approached by IRS and FBI employees, and then the
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  Speaker 3: Biden transition ting was approached. Then the Biden lawyers called
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, and then they called the FBI agents and
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  Speaker 3: the IRS agents and said, don't knock on that door.
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  Speaker 3: If he wants to come out, he'll come out and
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  Speaker 3: talk to you. Just wait. Well, they waited and nothing
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  Speaker 3: ever happened, and then they were told to go home.
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  Speaker 4: So they were there at his house.
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  Speaker 3: They were there at his house.
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  Speaker 2: So let me underscore. The Department of Justice tipped off Hunter, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: they're coming to question you. And Hunter called at his
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  Speaker 2: lawyers and they said, don't talk to him guards side,
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  Speaker 2: Like in any other circumstance, if you're investigating criminal conduct,
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  Speaker 2: do you tip off the suspect beforehand?
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  Speaker 3: They said that today. No, they said that never happened
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  Speaker 3: in their decade long service to the IRS.
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  Speaker 4: When they were told to go home? Who told them
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  Speaker 4: to go home?
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  Speaker 3: Their superior at the IRS?
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  Speaker 4: Was that unprecedent from that?
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  Speaker 3: They said, it never happened before.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you talked about suspicious activity reports, and there's
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  Speaker 2: been some discussion of this. Look, if you're at home,
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  Speaker 2: you're watching TV, you're trying to figure out what these are?
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  Speaker 2: What is a suspicious activity report? And like when is
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  Speaker 2: it made? When does it occur?
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  Speaker 3: I knew a lot about these because I was the
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  Speaker 3: director of a bank for over a decade. A suspicious
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  Speaker 3: activity report is when the bank files noticed with the
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  Speaker 3: Treasury Cabinet that they suspect their client has committed a crime.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they committed a crime, they have a strong
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  Speaker 3: suspicion that a crime was committed. So it's to protect
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  Speaker 3: the bank as well. So how frequently do these things
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  Speaker 3: A very seldom, Despite what the Washington boast or in
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  Speaker 3: their defense of the Biden, they said, well, everybody has
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  Speaker 3: a suspicious activity report. That is belooney. I was on
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  Speaker 3: a bank board for ten years. I think we issued
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  Speaker 3: two over the course of ten years.
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  Speaker 2: And how many were issued concerning hunter By than Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden and the Biden family over.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred and seventy.
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  Speaker 2: They were direct You were at a bank and they
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  Speaker 2: issued too.
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  Speaker 3: If you had two sars, they're called sars in the
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  Speaker 3: banking industry. If you had two stars against you, it
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  Speaker 3: would be hard for you to open an account somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: There wouldn't be any bank that would want to have
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  Speaker 3: you as a customer because it's not worth the paperwork.
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  Speaker 3: Remember when the bank files one of these, you could
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  Speaker 3: understand this appreciates this center. That's inviting the regulators to
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  Speaker 3: come in and regulate. Okay, that's the last thing to bank.
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  Speaker 2: So one hundred and seventy get file. That means that
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  Speaker 2: somebody is getting a deposit in their account. It's a
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  Speaker 2: big amount, it's from somewhere suspicious. I mean, what triggers it?
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  Speaker 2: Why you're a banker, what is it that makes you
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  Speaker 2: say we had to file a SAR?
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  Speaker 3: A large transaction that comes out of the blue. So
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  Speaker 3: what's large? What is there a threat you had you
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  Speaker 3: had a million, I'll use the Robinson Walker account because
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  Speaker 3: we subpoened. That was the first bank account we subpoena.
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  Speaker 2: Now, who's Robinson Walker.
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  Speaker 3: Rob Walker was one of the associates that they used
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  Speaker 3: to uh funnel money from China and then in Romania
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  Speaker 3: and then down and launder it down to the Biden.
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  Speaker 2: So he's a guy that's doing business with Hunter and
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Yeah, okay, we.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know what that business is. They got a three
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  Speaker 3: million dollar wire from from China. So this so one
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  Speaker 3: wire three million dollars, three million dollars. Now, remember we
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  Speaker 3: got the bank records for ten years that bank account
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  Speaker 3: never had got a three million.
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  Speaker 4: Dollar No, but I want one.
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  Speaker 2: Well this is not right. That is a charming guy
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  Speaker 2: and he would like three million dollars. Not going to
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  Speaker 2: do it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you don't have to work for three million.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently, so this account never had much activity in it
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  Speaker 3: over the course of ten years, maintained around a forty
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  Speaker 3: or fifty thousand dollars ballance. Then one day, out of
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  Speaker 3: the blue, they get a three million dollar wire from China.
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  Speaker 2: And so their bank says, this is weird. Yes, and
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  Speaker 2: it's coming from China, like the face of it, from China.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'd never gotten a foreign wire before. And
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  Speaker 3: there's three million dollars in a in an account that's
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  Speaker 3: never had more than fifty thousands some months, you know,
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  Speaker 3: had ten thousand dollars ballance, but never more than fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, a three million dollar wire.
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  Speaker 2: And then what happens to that three million dollars when.
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  Speaker 3: It lands twenty four hours later? Because that's the minimum
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  Speaker 3: amount of time you can you have to have a
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  Speaker 3: deposit in the bank for at least, like the wire
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  Speaker 3: needs to clear, Yeah, it needs to clear. Yeah, twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hours and two minutes later, he starts.
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  Speaker 2: You serious, Yes, he's really twenty four hours and two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe an hour, give me a righty, Just it was
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  Speaker 3: more than two minutes. It was like fifty six minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen pinocchios because you added fifty minutes to it. So,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just after twenty after.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty four hours. The next day they start wiring incremental
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  Speaker 3: payments to different Biden shell companies.
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  Speaker 2: So how many Biden sholl comps?
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  Speaker 3: What that's called when you set up a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: shell companies for the sole purpose to launder money. That's
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  Speaker 3: called racketeering.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into what racketeering means, how this
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  Speaker 1: was working these shell companies, and what jobs and what
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  Speaker 1: businesses they weren't actually doing. They were companies that they
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  Speaker 1: set up LLCs that did nothing, They sold nothing, They
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  Speaker 1: didn't do any business. It was too launder money and racketeering.
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  Speaker 2: We keep hearing about suspicious activity reports.
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 2: Like a shell company? What is a shell You hear
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  Speaker 2: shell company? And like what does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: And explain the show companies connecting to money laundering, how
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  Speaker 1: those two come together because a lot of people that
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  Speaker 1: hear this, but they don't understand why you need so
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  Speaker 1: many of them and why you would cipher money into.
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  Speaker 3: Multiple shell companies from the banking background, and yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is people want to know that. For me, I mean
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  Speaker 3: it has a double a swordr. But a shell company
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  Speaker 3: is a fake company. Okay, it's a company.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not a real business.
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  Speaker 3: Now make anything. They don't produce anything, They don't provide
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  Speaker 3: a good or service.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they're just you just do that. We can create it.
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  Speaker 3: They go to the Texas or Kentucky Secretary State and
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  Speaker 3: file a company in two minutes that says Cruise and
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  Speaker 3: Comer energy company. But that doesn't mean we have an
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  Speaker 3: energy company, right, just have an LLC Limited liability company
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  Speaker 3: that says we're an energy company. So they just create
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  Speaker 3: these fake companies.
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  Speaker 2: And how many are we talking about? Twenty twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: so twenty different Biden fake companies. They don't have factories,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have machinery and don't real products, they don't
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  Speaker 2: real website, they don't have a business card.
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  Speaker 3: They don't so they're twenty.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have a storefront, they have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they're they're you and so.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the laundering. Yes, so explain how you launder
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: money and how that works.
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  Speaker 3: Money laundering is is hiding money. You're you're hiding the
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: source of the money and you're deceiving the Internet the
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: internal Revenue Service to try to evade taxes. So if
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: if the Hunter Biden was doing something legitimate for China,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: they could have just wired the money to Hunter Biden,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: but they didn't. They they sent it to a company
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: called Robinson Walker. Then they wired it to a company
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: called Ouasco. Then they wired it to another company called
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Bohee something or another, and then they start these.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Companies do anything with it, and they're just it's it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: just a bucket to pour the water.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: If the partner somewhere else, that's exactly what. And it
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: was organized. This is like organized crime. This was very organized.
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  Speaker 2: So how did you unerwind this? So you're sitting there
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: doing a congressional investigation. If they're trying to hide it,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: presualy they make it hard to figure out. So so
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: what enabled you to twenty show companies? How do you
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: figure this out and connect the docks?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Well, there was a We had a good start. Your
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: call leagues, Grassley and Johnson had done a report, Miranda
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Divine had written a book. There were several good reporters
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: that have been investigating on this for a long time.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: We took pieces of that, and then when I became
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: chairman and got subpoena power, then I was able to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: actually subpoena bank records and.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: The bank's cooperated.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Most of the banks have cooperated. It's getting harder because
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: here's what happened. Everyone on cable news, some people that
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think are as smart a legal mind as
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: you ted. We're giving me lots of advice on what
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: to do. The first thing they need to do on
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: day one is subpoena Hunter and Joe Biden. I didn't
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: do that, and I think that would have been a
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: huge mistake. I think that's what they thought I would do.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: If I had done that, it would have ended up
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in court. Then if I had subpoenaed some of these
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: bank accounts, the bank would have said, we can't give
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that to you because there's ongoing litigation.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: So what we did, so they started, I gathered.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: We started by subpoenaing bank records for shell accounts to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: some of these companies had been abandoned because they never
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: were real company. Yeah, they never said to hide the
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: money they were getting from China and Romania and Ukraine.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So those bank account.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So let me stop real quick. Are those the three
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: countries that are involved, China, Romania and Ukraine, But all
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: three of them. You've got payments from China, from Romania
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and Ukraine going to Hunter Biden, Joe Biden or the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Biden families.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Right, not to Joe Biden yet, but to everyone else
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in the Biden family.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: How many bidens have have you identified they've gotten money?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Far?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Nine and and and when you identify.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the I've heard the number twelve, So so what's.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: The we actually have nine? Uh so we're proved one,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: we proved nine. I'm I would bet a lot of
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: money if I were on the craps table, I would
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: put odds behind three more members of the family.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: When you when you say there's nine.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: The reason that we.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Haven't gone after the brother yet and the.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Brother the brothers Jim, that's Joe, Joe and Frank.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Don't forget about Frank.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I have gotten about Frank. Okay, so I hear about Jim,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: all right, So Joe, how many Joe has two brothers?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Two brothers, And so I got to say one of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the things I've wondered. In fact, I was having dinner
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: with some folks tonight who asked me. They said, Okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Hunter has been indicted. What about Jim? Like, what what
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: about Jim?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Jim was the big dog of this entity before Hunter
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Biden came along.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Why Jim's not in the in the news right now.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: He didn't leave a laptop laying around. But I'll tell
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you what Jim has done. He's in court in about
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: four or five different states, being sued by former partners
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: for fraud.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Really yes, why has that not been covered?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Well, you tell me, so we'll get to the point
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to where we'll start subpoenaing his bank records. I think
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: some of these Ksey part of the reason we can't
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: get it because he's in litigation.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Right the nine or twelve. You've got Hunter, You've got
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Jim and Frank. That's three. Who are we talking about
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: as the rest? Who are the other players?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: The other players are Frank, Frank's wife, so Frank's wife,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: uh huh. And we believe that Jim's got family members
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: too that may have received wires. And then you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: ultimately with Joe, I suspect there are offshore accounts and
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: we kind of learned that today. One of the last queste.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: What's the evidence of off shore accounts that you learned today?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: There are the irs whistleblowers confirmed when I asked if
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: they had documents pertaining to foreign accounts, and they said
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: they did. Wow, they couldn't turn them over to us.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: They have to go through that process and turn it
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: over to the Ways and Means Committee, And I requested
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: they do that and they said they would.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: All right. Let me say this real quick, if you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: want to hear the rest of this interview, you gotta
• 23:01
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• 23:05
  Speaker 1: There's going to be part one, which obviously just heard
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: part of it today and I hope you are as
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: angry and as shocked as I am right now in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that number one. Number two. We're going to have part
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: two come out tomorrow, so you need to listen to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that part as well. This entire podcast downloaded wherever you
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. My takeaway from today is this, you
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: have a government that has decided that the Biden crime
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: family must be protected at all costs. You have Joe
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Biden who has had a long history of getting involved
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in his family's business dealings, and that is selling access.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: They're not selling another product. They have countless shell companies,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: fake companies set up that do nothing. So the only
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: thing that their product is delivering favors from the United
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: States government. That is the business. They're not selling coffee,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: they're not even selling drugs. They're not selling any item.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: What they are selling, they don't have a storefront. These
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: businesses and lcs would be set up and then three
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: million comes in, and then two million comes in, then
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: five million comes in, then a million comes in, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: then they funnel that money to other show companies. Racketeering
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is what this was described as. The only product they
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: had was they were selling access to Joe Biden the kingpin,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and then Joe Biden would deliver government favors. A perfect
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: example of the government favors that he delivered was ten
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: million dollars from that corrupt Ukrainian oligarch that owned Barisma.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He paid ten million dollars, so that the favor was
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden flying over to Ukraine and telling Ukraine, We're
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: not going to give you the a billion dollars, which
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is a significant amount of money to Ukraine. Ukraine's economy,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: their GDP, everything is very different the United States America.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Billion dollars to them is like I don't know, a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: trillion dollars to us, it is huge. And that Russian
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: oligarch or I actually say, that Ukrainian oli guard said
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'll give you ten million, but you got to get
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the prosecutor fired. And what did Joe Biden say in public,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: his words, son of a bitch. They fired him after
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he demanded them fire that prosecutor that was looking into
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Barisma for corruption. And fraud. He got them fired by
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: holding American dollars, your tax dollars away from Ukraine as
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a government. They said, all right, we need the money
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to bet fine, fire the prosecutor that Joe Biden is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: demanding that we fire. And then that's why they paid
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: him ten million dollars because he was delivering that. That's racketeering,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: money laundering, and a crime syndicate. This is this is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: criminal activity at the highest levels in America. Was being
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: bought off left and right by our adversaries for favors
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: from the United States government, and they paid Joe Biden
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and his family to do it.