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Secret Recording Brings Down Swamp in AZ · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is a story that is coming out of Arizona
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Speaker 1: right now and it deals with Jeff Dewed, who is
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Speaker 1: the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party. Jeff had lots
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Speaker 1: of conversations, obviously with Cary Lake, and in one of
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Speaker 1: those conversations he was recorded. He has now resigned as
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Republican Party chairperson after a recording revealed that
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Speaker 1: he offered what they're describing as a bribe to Cary
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Speaker 1: Lake to not run for the Senate. Now, let me
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Speaker 1: say this first off about recordings in general. I don't
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Speaker 1: like people that record other people, especially if they're they're
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Speaker 1: having a candid conversation or their friends. In an Arizona,
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Speaker 1: it's a one party state, so you understand one one
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Speaker 1: party can decide to record it. The other party doesn't
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Speaker 1: have to know about it. That's obviously what happened here
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Speaker 1: with Jeff. And apparently from what Jeff has now said
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Speaker 1: as resignation letter, there other conversations that they had that
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Speaker 1: were blunt and honest, that were I guess between the
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Speaker 1: two supposed to be confidential that apparently we're also recorded.
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Speaker 1: Now this is going to hurt in the long run.
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Speaker 1: Cary and her relationships with other people. I think, however,
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Speaker 1: she's obviously feels like she is exposing corruption. Now I'm
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Speaker 1: going to read for you the statement from the chairman,
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Speaker 1: Jeff de Witt, so that you understand what he says,
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Speaker 1: and then I'm going to play for you this audio
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Speaker 1: so you can hear it all in context. He said
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Speaker 1: this in his resignation letter. Quote and lie. Of the
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Speaker 1: recent revelation that Caryl Lake has released a selectively edited
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Speaker 1: audio recording of our private conversation, I must clearly address
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Speaker 1: this deceptive tactic. The recording from over ten months ago,
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Speaker 1: so she was sitting on this for ten months, is
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Speaker 1: not only taken out of context, but also undermines the
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Speaker 1: integrity of private discussions critical for party leadership. As chairman,
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Speaker 1: my primary duty is to strengthen our party, which often
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Speaker 1: involves challenging dialogues and strategic decisions. These conversations are meant
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Speaker 1: to assess enhance the viability of our candidates. The truth
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Speaker 1: is when I took the helm, our party was in disarray,
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Speaker 1: financially unstable, organizationally weak and lacking and momentum. Today we
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Speaker 1: have made significant improvements and acquiring a new office headquarters,
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Speaker 1: legal victories for election integrity and historic fundraising achievements. Contrary
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Speaker 1: to the notion of me being an enemy of Lakes,
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Speaker 1: this conversation was recorded while I was actually employing Lake
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Speaker 1: in my private company. Let me say that again, contrary
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Speaker 1: to the notion of me being an enemy of Lakes,
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Speaker 1: this conversation was recorded while I was actually employing Lake
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Speaker 1: in my private company. In fact, for over a year
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Speaker 1: and a half, we have had many conversations where I
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Speaker 1: was looking out for her financial interests. The ethical breach
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Speaker 1: in her recording of our conversation while while Lake was
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Speaker 1: my employee raises serious legal and moral concerns. This active
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Speaker 1: recording was not just a betrayal of trust, but also
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Speaker 1: a violation of the fiduciary responsibilities of an employee. Contrary
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Speaker 1: to accusations of bribery, my discussions were transparent and intended
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Speaker 1: to offer perspective, not coercion. Our relationship was based on friendship,
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Speaker 1: and the conversation that is now being scrutinized was an open,
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Speaker 1: unguarded exchange between friends in the living room of her house.
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Speaker 1: I genuinely believed I was offering a helpful perspective to
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Speaker 1: someone I considered a friend. Blake has a massive megaphone
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Speaker 1: that I cannot compete with. I am just a business
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Speaker 1: and financial guide that got recruited into this unpaid role
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Speaker 1: that demands the amount of time of roughly two full
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Speaker 1: time jobs. Nights, weekends, holidays and more are all workeday.
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Speaker 1: My motivation for accepting this position was that I wanted
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Speaker 1: to contribute positively, with the primary focus being the betterment
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Speaker 1: of Arizona and our nation through the election of competent individuals.
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Speaker 1: While there is much more that I could express, I
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Speaker 1: must refrain from defending myself as I could potentially undermine
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Speaker 1: this objective. Since our conversation where I advised Lake to
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Speaker 1: postpone her campaign and aim for the government's position in
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Speaker 1: two years, she has been on a mission to destroy me.
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Speaker 1: It was a suggestion, maybe in good faith, believing it
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Speaker 1: could benefit both her future prospects and the party's overall strategy.
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Speaker 1: The release of our conversation by Lake confirms a disturbing
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Speaker 1: tendency to exploit private interactions for personal gain and increases
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Speaker 1: concerns about her habit of secretly recording personal and private conversations.
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Speaker 1: This is obviously a concern given how much interaction she
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Speaker 1: has with high profile people, including President Trump. I question
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Speaker 1: how he goes on to say effective a United States
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Speaker 1: Senator can be when they cannot be trusted to engage
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Speaker 1: in private and confidential conversations. I said things I regret,
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Speaker 1: but I realize, when hearing Lake's recordings that are recording singular,
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Speaker 1: that I was set up. I believe she orchestrated this
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Speaker 1: entire situation. I have control over the state Party, and
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Speaker 1: it is obvious from the recording that she crafted her
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Speaker 1: performance responses with the knowledge that she was recording it,
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Speaker 1: intending to use this recording later to portray herself as
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Speaker 1: a hero in her own story. This morning, I was
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Speaker 1: determined to fight for my position. However, a few hours ago,
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Speaker 1: I received an ultimatum from Lake's team resigned today or
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Speaker 1: face the release of a new, more damaging recording. I
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Speaker 1: am truly unsure of its contents, but considering our numerous
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Speaker 1: past open conversations as friends, I have decided not to
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Speaker 1: take the risk. I am resigning as Lake requested, and
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Speaker 1: hope that she will honor her commitment to cease her attacks,
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Speaker 1: allowing me to return to the business sector, a field
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Speaker 1: I find much more logical and prefer over politics. He
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Speaker 1: goes on to write, I am a proud supporter President Trump,
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Speaker 1: having worked diligently as the COO and CFO of his
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen campaign, served in his administration for two years,
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Speaker 1: and returned as the COO of his twenty twenty campaign.
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Speaker 1: Like many Republicans, I'm eager to see him return to
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Speaker 1: the White House, bringing back low and inflation, a secure border,
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Speaker 1: and economic growth. President Trump is not only a successful businessman,
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Speaker 1: but also a passionate patriot. We have both faced the
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Speaker 1: challenges of dealing with unauthorized recordings, a situation no one
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Speaker 1: should endure. While I have occasionally critiqued some of his endorsement,
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Speaker 1: my admiration for his character has never faltered. My decision,
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Speaker 1: my dedication, i should say, remains with Arizona. Republicans are
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Speaker 1: commenable election elected officials and candidates who are champions of freedom,
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Speaker 1: as well as my friends in the Trump campaign, united
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Speaker 1: in our goal to reclaim the White House. Our party's
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Speaker 1: focus should be unity, integrity, the selection of candidates who
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Speaker 1: can truly lead and represent our values. We are weakened
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Speaker 1: by internal strifes, underheted tactics and the erosion of trust.
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Speaker 1: As someone who has dedicated countless unpaid hours to this cause.
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Speaker 1: I hope that every future party chairman is as committed
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Speaker 1: to steering our party towards a future that embodies our
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Speaker 1: core principles of unity, respect, and professionalism. In closing, my
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Speaker 1: actions will always reflect what's best for Arizona Republicans are
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Speaker 1: commendable elected officials and our mission to reclaim the White House.
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Speaker 1: This is all such a distract to that mission that
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Speaker 1: I am doing as Miss Lake wishes, and I am
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Speaker 1: stepping down his chairmer of the Arizona Republican Party. Now
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Speaker 1: that obviously is Jeff DeWitt. His resignation letter, let me
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Speaker 1: say one thing in here, when he says that they
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Speaker 1: told him that they if he didn't resign today, they
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Speaker 1: were going to put out a release, a new tape,
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Speaker 1: more damning recording, he said, I'm truly unsure of its contents,
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Speaker 1: but considering our numerous past open conversations as friends, I've
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Speaker 1: decided not to take the risk. What that means is
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Speaker 1: he said some things, probably about Donald Trump, and down
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Speaker 1: lower in that when he said, you know, basicallyedging it,
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Speaker 1: pledging his allegiance to Donald Trump. It's pretty clear. This
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Speaker 1: is my guess that he probably said Donald Trump picked
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Speaker 1: some bad candidates and really screwed up in some of
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Speaker 1: these different states in the last election cycle when he
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Speaker 1: picked people like doctor Oz, which were terrible. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, I've said that openly. I don't know why
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Speaker 1: he's afraid of that coming out, or it could have
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Speaker 1: been something maybe a lot worse than that. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: you get to decide if this is bribery or not.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to play you the entire audio recording.
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Speaker 1: Let me explain why there's a lot of recordings that
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Speaker 1: are out there that are pieced together that I don't
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Speaker 1: think are accurate. I want you to hear the long version,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to decide what you think about this.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: There are obviously many that are celebrating this in the
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Speaker 1: MAGA community, saying this is great that he's gone. This
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Speaker 1: guy sucks. You got to look at his past. He
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Speaker 1: worked for Donald Trump not once but twice in his
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Speaker 1: campaign capacity in Arizona to deliver Arizona. So keep that
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Speaker 1: in perspective as you as you listen to this. And
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Speaker 1: again I go back to what I said earlier. Taping
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Speaker 1: people that you think are your friends and then holding
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Speaker 1: it for ten months is leverage that just personally bothers me.
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Speaker 1: But listen to this and you tell me what you
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Speaker 1: think about.
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Speaker 2: This, what's going on? What is I'm assuming this is
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Speaker 2: our friend?
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Speaker 3: This is this is.
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Speaker 4: There are very powerful people want to keep you out.
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Speaker 5: They do, but they're willing to put.
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Speaker 3: Their money with their mouths in a big way. So
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Speaker 3: this conversations you never have.
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Speaker 2: This is crazy, though they should want me. I'm a
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Speaker 2: great candidate. People love me. These people are corrupt.
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Speaker 3: Well maybe you're right.
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Speaker 5: They are right, they are corrupt.
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Speaker 2: You don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'll get myself this if you if you say no,
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Speaker 3: it's just fine. It's your choice.
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Speaker 5: Don't tell people they're gonna try to have me murdered.
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Speaker 3: He says, world.
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Speaker 4: Man, get that stuff that came out last week is
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Speaker 4: right about the cartel stuff car They see the cartel's
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Speaker 4: offering in fifty states right now, I'm called fifty So.
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Speaker 5: So what what? What's going on? Who is it?
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Speaker 3: What forget to who? Let me just tell you what.
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Speaker 5: I just say.
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Speaker 3: There are people calling around saying, gosh, no, they can't
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Speaker 3: pay this. Never beat this. If you say no, don't
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Speaker 3: you say I got offered to buy out? Yeah, because
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Speaker 3: then we lose our bill to get things done in
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Speaker 3: the future.
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Speaker 2: Here's my problem, rather than just say, let's work with her.
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Speaker 2: She's a great candidate, because they don't own me, and
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Speaker 2: it pisses me off.
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Speaker 3: Yes, my ownership.
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Speaker 5: It's about control.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's about control. It's about being on
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Speaker 3: the team.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's they want to be on the team.
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Speaker 2: They want you to be on their team. But if
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Speaker 2: they're pushing a globalist agenda, I can't do that. So
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Speaker 2: what do they want? What do they want me to do?
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Speaker 4: You want to stay opportunities, but let't tell you what
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Speaker 4: I can after you. But I said, you can do
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Speaker 4: whatever you want talking. So the ask of me was
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Speaker 4: it's kind of funny. So the ask I got.
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Speaker 3: Today from back east was this, Yes, it's six of us.
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Speaker 3: Is there any companies out there or something that could
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Speaker 3: just put her on the payroll and give her keep brown?
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Speaker 3: And I said, what do you wanting to do? Whatever
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Speaker 3: you need to do.
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Speaker 2: This is about defeating Trump, and I think that's a bad,
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Speaker 2: bad thing for our country. DeSantis is not America.
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Speaker 5: First.
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Speaker 2: This is about the final death blow to Trump, and
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's good for our country.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you, but I love Trump.
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Speaker 5: It's not good for our country. Job it's not.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm not even true Trump
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Speaker 3: from anything. Oh, I don't, Joan. I think what it
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Speaker 3: really comes out to for a lot of people, it's
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Speaker 3: not only about.
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Speaker 4: Control or agenda. This is about the ability to raise
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Speaker 4: the line to win. You know, if you really are
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Speaker 4: on all.
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Speaker 3: Who those plas and another back and then even on.
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Speaker 2: Their like what makes them the last n I know,
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Speaker 2: there's all these insultants don't want their payday to end,
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to make a deal with these
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Speaker 2: kind of people. This is a hill worth dying on.
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Speaker 2: I'm not if they're going to steal the election to
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Speaker 2: make me and our movement go away, I'm not letting
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Speaker 2: him do that. I owe it to the people of
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Speaker 2: Arizona or to carry their torch.
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Speaker 5: And the voice or you don't go away, but pause.
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Speaker 5: This is the battles right now, Jeff Paw and you
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Speaker 5: their couts. No, the battle is right now.
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Speaker 2: The battle is right now, and we don't have time
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Speaker 2: to pause on this battlefield.
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Speaker 4: You're not.
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Speaker 3: What you can't scratch this out?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want me to offer them.
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Speaker 3: And they're sitting on people that have some cofers. It's
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Speaker 3: just it's it's a it's a bachelors club, that's all.
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Speaker 2: DC.
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Speaker 3: This is a big question.
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Speaker 4: You're no, you're no position discratching what he's back and
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Speaker 4: you've already made it known that if you get there.
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Speaker 3: In discretions, fact I outscratch.
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Speaker 4: People's fact I was I've been on the outs for
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Speaker 4: a lot of people for a long time.
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Speaker 3: I want spresh, wives, Where are we in two years?
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Speaker 5: Could you again listen to what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: Why don't we do something about it so that we
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Speaker 2: the people can pick our.
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Speaker 3: What can we do?
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Speaker 2: I'm not willing to accept that. Then I'm going to
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Speaker 2: be the biggest pain in these people. Go back and
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Speaker 2: tell them that I'm running and I'm going to be
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Speaker 2: the biggest pain in the.
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Speaker 3: And I'm willing to tell them.
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Speaker 5: That, and They're going to have to kill me to
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Speaker 5: stop me.
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Speaker 3: I work.
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Speaker 5: You don't have to tell them that, but I don't
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Speaker 5: think they will.
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Speaker 3: But not.
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Speaker 2: Either they come around and try to work with me
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Speaker 2: or I'm just in entail. That would entail not telling
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Speaker 2: Layman's telling me you got to distance yourself from Trump.
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Speaker 5: No, you just since yourself from DeSantis.
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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, don't tell people that I'm
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Speaker 2: with Trump. Okay, I want to work for the betterment
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Speaker 2: of Arizona. I'm not going to let these people back
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Speaker 2: in DC. Tell me, not your bun I'm telling them
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Speaker 2: that's one. I'm not going to pause for two years.
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Speaker 2: The battle is now. I'm offended by whoever these people are,
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Speaker 2: that they're trying to buy me out, and.
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Speaker 3: You should be honored.
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Speaker 2: But I'm offended that there's people back there you just
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Speaker 2: don't get about our country.
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Speaker 3: Do you understand? Though you should be honored, that that
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Speaker 3: means they know how powerful you are.
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Speaker 5: Well, you can tell them that we're powerful.
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Speaker 3: They wouldn't They wouldn't want to have this conversation. Yeah, right,
17:38
Speaker 3: you should. Very few people get this.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm pissed that they don't care more about
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Speaker 2: our country. It's all about the mighty dollar to them,
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Speaker 2: and that's offensive.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: They want to get Trump so bad, they want them
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Speaker 5: out so bad.
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Speaker 3: Trump this, but.
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Speaker 5: Some people are listen, I can win.
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Speaker 2: Why don't you go back and tell him that I
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Speaker 2: can win and won't take it behind me.
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Speaker 4: I just see, I see these things two different things.
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Speaker 4: It's very personal to you. This is you, this is
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Speaker 4: your name on about her?
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Speaker 3: Can I get that?
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Speaker 1: I want to just pause here, and I want you
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Speaker 1: to think about a couple of things here. One he's
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Speaker 1: a GOP chairman. He's talking to people out east. They're
18:28
Speaker 1: telling him they don't like her, they don't wonder, they
18:30
Speaker 1: don't think she can win. He also said on the
18:32
Speaker 1: record he doesn't think Donald Trump can win. He's concerned
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Speaker 1: about that as well. And she's saying you can't buy me,
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Speaker 1: and he's saying you should be flattered. Now that really
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Speaker 1: bothers me. One of the things here that was said
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Speaker 1: a moment ago was this comment that was basically saying
18:55
Speaker 1: you should be flattered that people want to keep you out.
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Speaker 1: And I said, it bothers me. Let me explain to
19:01
Speaker 1: you why it bothers me. It's this idea that there
19:04
Speaker 1: is such arrogance of these establishment Republicans that they think
19:10
Speaker 1: they can just buy off anybody with Okay, you go
19:12
Speaker 1: sit on this board, here's some money. Shut up and
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Speaker 1: sit down. We'll tell you when it's your time to
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Speaker 1: run again, you need to stop. You not run this time.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna buy you out, right, Like that's what we're
19:24
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna you're gonna lose. We're not gonna
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Speaker 1: support you, We're gonna give money. We're gonna make sure
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Speaker 1: the money's cut off from you, and the establishment's been
19:32
Speaker 1: doing this to great candets for a long time. There
19:35
Speaker 1: are a lot of hardcore conservative candidates that don't have
19:37
Speaker 1: the establishment backing, and this is exactly how they're treated.
19:41
Speaker 1: They shut down the money. I mean, we've seen this
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Speaker 1: with Mitch McConnell, for example, shutting off the money to
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Speaker 1: hardcore conservative candets in the House and the Senate because
19:49
Speaker 1: he doesn't like dealing with him, because he can't tell
19:51
Speaker 1: them to shut up and sit down on all of
19:54
Speaker 1: the issues. That's one of the reasons why clearly they
19:57
Speaker 1: don't want Krylake to win the Senate seat. And he says,
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Speaker 1: this chairman, you know, you should be flattered. He also
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Speaker 1: said something else, he said, you have nothing to offer them.
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Speaker 1: There's no way for you to scratch their back, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: what do you have to offer them? Well, that's also
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Speaker 1: a problem in politics. It shouldn't be about what you
20:15
Speaker 1: have to offer a person individually. It should be how
20:17
Speaker 1: good of a leader they are for the people they
20:19
Speaker 1: represent in the state of Arizona in this example, or
20:21
Speaker 1: any other state where there's an elected official running. Now,
20:24
Speaker 1: I personally believe that this GOP chairman should have not
20:30
Speaker 1: walked in there to quote broker this deal. Certainly not
20:33
Speaker 1: this way. I think you should have come in and said, hey,
20:36
Speaker 1: they want you out. They're not going to support you,
20:38
Speaker 1: they want you to wait for two years. If you're
20:40
Speaker 1: willing to wait for two years or willing to give
20:41
Speaker 1: you a really fat paycheck and take care of you
20:45
Speaker 1: that way, I think it's bs cary. I think you
20:49
Speaker 1: should do whatever you want to do, what you think
20:50
Speaker 1: is right. But I told them, as the chairman of
20:53
Speaker 1: the party, I would at least give the message. But
20:56
Speaker 1: I think it's crap and you need to do it's
20:57
Speaker 1: best for you and what you think is right with
21:00
Speaker 1: your timing. Now, that is, in my opinion, what a
21:02
Speaker 1: good GOP chairman would have done. You can relay a message,
21:05
Speaker 1: that's fine, and if you're the intermediary, relay it, but
21:08
Speaker 1: don't sell it the way that he's selling it. Right now, Well,
21:11
Speaker 1: you've got nothing to offer, Well, I think Trump is
21:13
Speaker 1: probably not gonna win. Well, I think that you know
21:15
Speaker 1: you should sit and wait two more years. You know,
21:18
Speaker 1: that's where he screwed up. And in my opinion, that
21:20
Speaker 1: is exactly the moment when it cost him his job,
21:24
Speaker 1: because he was clearly acting on the interest of people
21:26
Speaker 1: that by the way out out east as he described it,
21:28
Speaker 1: meaning they're not even in Arizona. So the question is
21:31
Speaker 1: was this even what was good for Arizona? Was this
21:34
Speaker 1: good for the people of Arizona. The way that he
21:37
Speaker 1: described it sounds like there's people outside of Arizona that
21:43
Speaker 1: are controlling who gets to run for office within Arizona.
21:48
Speaker 1: Now I would say this, I want to know who
21:50
Speaker 1: the names are. I want to know who the people are.
21:53
Speaker 1: I want to know who the people are that are bribing,
21:55
Speaker 1: and I want to know where else they're doing it
21:57
Speaker 1: around the country, because clearly it's not just in Arizona
22:00
Speaker 1: where they'll show up and talk to somebody and say, Okay,
22:02
Speaker 1: here's what we need you to do. We need you
22:04
Speaker 1: not to run. We're gonna put you on the board
22:06
Speaker 1: of this company. We're gonna get you a job making
22:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of money at this company. We're gonna give
22:09
Speaker 1: you some cash over at this company, right because that's
22:12
Speaker 1: what the offer is. So clearly this is a tried
22:14
Speaker 1: and true policy that's happened, a plan that has happened,
22:19
Speaker 1: i should say, multiple times, with multiple candidates, probably around
22:23
Speaker 1: the country. Again, based on what we're hearing now. Listen
22:26
Speaker 1: to part two of this conversation again. This is the
22:29
Speaker 1: chairman former now chairman of the Republican Party of Arizona
22:35
Speaker 1: and Cary Lake in her home apparently listen.
22:38
Speaker 3: It's a very personal point.
22:41
Speaker 2: Well, I have a appointment coming up and I have
22:45
Speaker 2: to work on my book. Yeah, I'm not gonna I
22:48
Speaker 2: appreciate their concern, just.
22:53
Speaker 3: To say, is there a number which.
22:58
Speaker 2: I can be bought? That's what it's about. Ticking hawks
23:02
Speaker 2: for governors now do no.
23:07
Speaker 1: Got to be clear, that is bribery. When he when
23:12
Speaker 1: she tries to end that conversation and says, you know,
23:19
Speaker 1: I got I got a call to do, and I
23:21
Speaker 1: got some work doing. I got back on my book.
23:22
Speaker 1: And he says, well, hold on, is there a number?
23:26
Speaker 1: And she says, to be Bonnie, He's like, no, not
23:28
Speaker 1: to be bought, but just to hit a pause. That's
23:29
Speaker 1: being bought, folks, Like he knows that's being bought. She
23:32
Speaker 1: knows that's what's being bought. And this is the reason
23:35
Speaker 1: why I said earlier in general, I don't like it
23:37
Speaker 1: when people's conversations are recorded, Like I think, like when
23:41
Speaker 1: you don't when you're when you're recording somebody in their
23:43
Speaker 1: own home, uh this you know in this or they're
23:46
Speaker 1: recording you when they invite you into their home. I
23:48
Speaker 1: think it's just principally wrong. However, if you're Carrie Lake
23:53
Speaker 1: and this is what's happened to you on the regular
23:57
Speaker 1: by the chairman of the GOP party, and apparently there
23:59
Speaker 1: were other taps so she recorded there, there is a
24:04
Speaker 1: question here was this the right thing to expose it
24:07
Speaker 1: this way and cost him as chairmanship. It's obviously going
24:10
Speaker 1: to affect him in a very negative way in business
24:13
Speaker 1: as well. But what you just heard there was very
24:16
Speaker 1: clear bribery. I'm going to back it up about twenty seconds.
24:20
Speaker 1: I want you to hear it again, and I'll let
24:21
Speaker 1: the play the tape play out.
24:24
Speaker 3: Is there a.
24:24
Speaker 2: Number which I can be bought?
24:28
Speaker 5: That's what it's about. You can take a hawks for cost.
24:31
Speaker 3: Go right back to.
24:33
Speaker 2: No. Ten million, twenty million, third, no, no, no, a billion. No.
24:40
Speaker 5: This is not about money. This is about our country.
24:43
Speaker 2: I think it's disturbing that they would even that anybody
24:47
Speaker 2: would think this is to be fair.
24:49
Speaker 4: Even me, even me, I'll say this, I want fresh
24:52
Speaker 4: fats right now for the reason that I've never seen anyone.
24:56
Speaker 3: I can't think of a single person in food lost
25:00
Speaker 3: Randon in a walk.
25:04
Speaker 1: I'm not going to By the way, notice that what
25:06
Speaker 1: he just said, he said, I'm ready for a new face.
25:10
Speaker 1: So he's a part of this group now right. They're
25:12
Speaker 1: trying to orchestrate this. They don't want Cary Lake to win.
25:16
Speaker 1: They don't think that she can win. And and what
25:19
Speaker 1: he just said there was I'm ready for a new face.
25:21
Speaker 1: So he's telling Cary Lake, I don't want you to
25:23
Speaker 1: run either, So give me a number. Let's pause, you
25:28
Speaker 1: make some cash for the next couple of years, right,
25:31
Speaker 1: and and then and then we'll revisit you running for governor.
25:35
Speaker 1: That is the offer. What is your number? And listen
25:39
Speaker 1: to how frustrated I'm going to back it up. About
25:41
Speaker 1: ten seconds Cary becomes At that point.
25:44
Speaker 4: He lost, I'm.
25:49
Speaker 2: Not going to let these people who hate off country
25:53
Speaker 2: tell me nota.
25:54
Speaker 5: You should call them and.
25:55
Speaker 2: Tell them to get behind me.
25:57
Speaker 5: I can win and they should get behind me.
26:00
Speaker 3: Have to say the voice.
26:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think if my words will carry anyway?
26:05
Speaker 2: Okay, well, did you think you would come in here
26:07
Speaker 2: and that I would be bought?
26:10
Speaker 3: Yes?
26:12
Speaker 2: It is being bought. They are trying to buy me
26:15
Speaker 2: out of running. And it's it's actually, I mean, all right,
26:18
Speaker 2: I'm flattered. It's I'm offended for our country. We have
26:22
Speaker 2: people like this who live here. Exists.
26:25
Speaker 3: Is it can give you an incredible opportunity to have
26:30
Speaker 3: a bigger voice to fight for stuff.
26:35
Speaker 1: Than parent.
26:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to deal with people like this.
26:42
Speaker 2: These people are an American and I think they're unethical
26:47
Speaker 2: and I would be absolutely immoral if I did that.
26:51
Speaker 3: I can't.
26:53
Speaker 4: That's you know, It's just it's very powerful people that
26:59
Speaker 4: are willing to They really want something different.
27:02
Speaker 3: They want new names. Whatever it is.
27:05
Speaker 5: That's a new name.
27:06
Speaker 3: No, actually that's not even that that's a possibility.
27:08
Speaker 2: But they're even asking me, like, I know, they've got
27:11
Speaker 2: all these new names, and I'm going to be each
27:12
Speaker 2: and every one of them. Sorry, Jack, take it back,
27:14
Speaker 2: take it back to them.
27:18
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta get working. I love you, but
27:20
Speaker 5: I gotta be working.
27:21
Speaker 3: All right, I appreciate it.
27:23
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just I can't believe this.
27:30
Speaker 4: Instead of they just look instead of just them working
27:33
Speaker 4: to beat you, they're trying to like.
27:36
Speaker 2: There, this is about getting Trump out. It's about DeSantis
27:45
Speaker 2: getting in Desanta sid I'm getting Santis is getting Trump out.
27:50
Speaker 3: He's reading too deep into it.
27:52
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what happens. Maybe my case will go through,
27:56
Speaker 2: maybe they'll do the right thing. I hope so I
28:01
Speaker 2: do too, that's my first goal. But they can't have
28:04
Speaker 2: me in the governor's office because then we are going
28:06
Speaker 2: to root out some of this corruption.
28:10
Speaker 3: You know what it is.
28:10
Speaker 2: The people don't get to choose their elected officials unless
28:13
Speaker 2: they're pre approved.
28:14
Speaker 5: By the swamp, and the swamp doesn't approve of me.
28:19
Speaker 2: I think you should go public with this and then say, hey,
28:22
Speaker 2: these people don't want to they.
28:23
Speaker 5: Don't want there.
28:24
Speaker 3: I turned my key in my car and.
28:29
Speaker 5: Tell them I'm not flattered. I'm offended that this conversation.
28:33
Speaker 5: I'm offended that they don't care about our country more.
28:38
Speaker 4: I actually wish you just give me a counter offer
28:40
Speaker 4: this big give me count I can't.
28:43
Speaker 5: I can't be bought. I can't Okay, bye bye.
28:49
Speaker 1: I can't be bought. Give them a counter offer. Give
28:52
Speaker 1: them a counter offer. Now, there are two things here
28:56
Speaker 1: that you need to understand. The takeaways. Number one, I
28:59
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear that this guy made a massive
29:01
Speaker 1: mistake in number two. I think it's abundantly clear that
29:04
Speaker 1: he isn't even the guy that I care about anymore.
29:06
Speaker 1: I want to know who the names are. I want
29:09
Speaker 1: to name names. I want to know who the people
29:11
Speaker 1: are within the Republican movement that are going around the
29:15
Speaker 1: country from out east bribing different people to not run
29:19
Speaker 1: for office who they don't like, because this is obviously
29:23
Speaker 1: how they run things, this is how they do the business,
29:26
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29:31
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