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HILLARY BUSTED for fake Russia dossier BY FEC, and now lawsuit from TRUMP! Sen. Blackburn joins me to discuss. · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Recent court filing by the Special Counsel John Durham stated
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Speaker 1: that a technology executives whose company was hired by the
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Speaker 1: White House to provide Internet related services was exploiting the
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Speaker 1: sense of agreement and his access to the White House
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Speaker 1: Internet domain name information to work with the Clinton campaign
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Speaker 1: operatives in twenty sixteen to create a quote false narrative
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Speaker 1: that rival Kennett Donald Trump was colluding with Russia. We
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Speaker 1: also know now that Hillary Clinton's campaign from twenty sixteen
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Speaker 1: has been fined because they broke the rules when they
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Speaker 1: were supporting and paying for misinformation, the Russia hoax bs
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Speaker 1: that they put out there in the world that actually
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Speaker 1: they used to impeach Donald Trump. Now a quick reminder,
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Speaker 1: us as Democrats have been attacking our podcasts recently with
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Speaker 1: bad reviews. Now joining me is United States Senator Marsha Blackburn.
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Speaker 1: I know we got a lot to talk about, but
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Speaker 1: let's first talk about Hillary Clinton's campaign. Senator. We know
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Speaker 1: the laptop from Hunter Biden is real. All right, that's
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Speaker 1: a fact. You and I have known that for years.
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Speaker 1: But that's big because now Democrats admitting in yeah, we
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Speaker 1: now know that Hillary Clinton's campaign has been fine for
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Speaker 1: doing an illegal activity, which was which was paying for misinformation,
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Speaker 1: the same thing that they said Russia cannot do. And
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Speaker 1: it's a threat to our democracy. Let's get your take
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Speaker 1: on that, and then let's move to this other legislation. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and what's the Clinton campaign. What the FEC has done
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Speaker 1: is to find them exactly as you said, because what
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Speaker 1: they were doing was colluding and working with these outside
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Speaker 1: entities to build out this narrative. Now, it started out
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Speaker 1: as one of these campaign disinformation plots and let's make
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Speaker 1: up a story and let's blame Donald Trump for this
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Speaker 1: because he is our opponent. And then, as you said,
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Speaker 1: it grew from that. And it's one of those things
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Speaker 1: where someone is a sore loser. And I know parents
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Speaker 1: to deal with this all the time with kids. I
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Speaker 1: did with mine. Something comes up, they end up losing,
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Speaker 1: they're angry about it and they want to lash out. Well,
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Speaker 1: what the Clinton campaign did was to try to discredit Trump,
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Speaker 1: blame him for something that was not true. They made
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Speaker 1: it up, and then they built out this narrative, then
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Speaker 1: they got the FBI in on it, and the Russia
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Speaker 1: collusion hoax came about. And then that brings you to
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, as you mentioned, with the Biden Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: lamptop fiasco and the way Joe Biden continued to say
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Speaker 1: his son never discussed any business dealings with him, and
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Speaker 1: the way the media covered for Hunter Biden saying that
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Speaker 1: he was not involved in these transactions, and of course
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Speaker 1: his business partner Tony bob Olenski said he is involved
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Speaker 1: and laid out what was there. And now the New
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Speaker 1: York Times and Washington Posts have said the laptop is real,
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Speaker 1: the accusations are real. And this is why those of
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Speaker 1: US on Judiciary Committee have continued to support John Durham
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Speaker 1: in his investigation and the indictments that he's bringing forward,
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Speaker 1: because we need to get to the bottom of this.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this center, I am worried now
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Speaker 1: that there is no way that any private citizen, or
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Speaker 1: for that matter, the president of the United States of America,
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Speaker 1: if he's of the wrong party, the Republican Party, the
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Speaker 1: GOPA Conservative can trust the United States government. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about the FBI, the Deep State, the DOJ, because everybody
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Speaker 1: knew while they were using the Steel dossier and while
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Speaker 1: they were using all of this to impeach Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: the deep State, the FBI, all the DOJ knew that
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Speaker 1: this was all paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign, and
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Speaker 1: they knew it wasn't legitimate, and they still allowed what
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Speaker 1: I would refer to is nothing more than the potential
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Speaker 1: overthrow of the will of the people by impeaching a
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Speaker 1: present based on a false narrative, a lie. They knew
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Speaker 1: it was a lie, and they still allowed it to happen.
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Speaker 1: Do you have any faith in the DOJ or the
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Speaker 1: FBI at this point, knowing that they could have stopped
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Speaker 1: all this saying no, this is not real and Hillary
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Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign paid for it, and that is exactly what
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Speaker 1: they should have done the minute it was presented to them.
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Speaker 1: But it's like they were all in on building this
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Speaker 1: out and it took on this life of its own.
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Speaker 1: And that is the reason that people do not have
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Speaker 1: faith in this DOJ and in this Justice Department. And
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Speaker 1: when they hear somebody blamed for something, they're saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I want to see why, and I
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Speaker 1: want more of the detail, and I want to hear
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Speaker 1: the other side of the story from this person. And
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Speaker 1: of course Trump kept saying at the top of this lungs,
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Speaker 1: they're making this up. I don't have this involvement. I'm
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Speaker 1: not this has never happened. And the media kept saying
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is lying, and then Trump kept saying, no,
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Speaker 1: they're spying on me. What don't we know now they
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Speaker 1: were spying on him. He was right about every bit
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Speaker 1: of that, and that does bring us to this legislation.
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Speaker 1: It is one of those things that is so beyond
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Speaker 1: what you would believe because you don't expect this kind
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Speaker 1: of activity. But then they went in and they somehow
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Speaker 1: got this individual that had this contract to come into
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Speaker 1: their little cabal, and then they used him to snoop
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Speaker 1: so that they could say we've got inside sources and
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Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump for this myriad of things, spying
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Speaker 1: on people in the White House. And as I've told
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Speaker 1: you before, when you look at what was happening was
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Speaker 1: Trump Tower and the spying there as he was President
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Speaker 1: elect Trump and then going into the White House. I
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Speaker 1: vice chaired the Transition Committee for President Trump, and I
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Speaker 1: still cannot find out from dj if they were monitoring
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Speaker 1: my email, my phone calls, I don't know. They have
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Speaker 1: still not responded to me. Devin Nunez was a vice
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Speaker 1: chair of that. He's also asked, and these are things
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Speaker 1: we'd like to know. Were you without our knowledge? Were
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Speaker 1: you in here spying? And let's be clear for people,
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Speaker 1: because I think this matters so much. We know now, Senator,
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Speaker 1: that they were spying on Trump from the very beginning
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Speaker 1: when he was president elect. We know that they had
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Speaker 1: insider spying on what was going in and out the
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Speaker 1: White House right with with monitoring the Internet. We know
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Speaker 1: that they were lying about the spying, and they were
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Speaker 1: lying about Donald Trump, and they were lying about the
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Speaker 1: you know this report and this still dossier. We know
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Speaker 1: that the dj knew of all these lies, and we
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Speaker 1: know that the FBI was was this This to me
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Speaker 1: sounds like a active coup attempt by the former Obama
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Speaker 1: administration slash the Democratic Party because even after they knew
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Speaker 1: all of this was set up on purpose by the left,
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Speaker 1: they still went with it to impeach the president. Is
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Speaker 1: there going to be any accountability for this or is
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Speaker 1: this just like, yeah, we did it, deal with it. No,
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Speaker 1: We're not going to let them get by with saying yeah,
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Speaker 1: we did it and it took you four years to
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Speaker 1: prove it, five years, six years whatever. This is why
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Speaker 1: we are continuing to push the Durham report, and it
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Speaker 1: is why we had put Bill Barr to move him
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Speaker 1: from an investigator to moving him to a special counsel
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Speaker 1: so they could not shut this down. And we were
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Speaker 1: successful in doing that before President Trump left office and
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Speaker 1: being able to go back and say, okay, building out
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Speaker 1: this whole story, this is what has transpired, this is
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Speaker 1: what they did. Here is the proof. Hunter Biden's laptop
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Speaker 1: is a big part of this because what did they do.
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Speaker 1: They said, Okay, you know we're going to push We're
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Speaker 1: going to push this collusion through DJ and you've got
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Speaker 1: James Comey and Peter Struck, all these people that were
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Speaker 1: involved in knowing in this and Durham has already had
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Speaker 1: a couple of indictments. The assessment indictment was an important
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Speaker 1: one and giving him the time to do his job
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Speaker 1: and bring this forward so we will know and have
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Speaker 1: that complete workup of what happened, when it happened, who
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Speaker 1: all was involved, and then have them with the indictments
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Speaker 1: with the trials that will ensue from that. Two other
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Speaker 1: questions I want to ask for you real quick, Hunter
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Speaker 1: Biden and what we are witnessing now with Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: the laptop, this investigation. If you if this was Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: Don Junior, or Eric or any one of the Trump
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Speaker 1: family members, there would be wall to wall coverage. How
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Speaker 1: has he not been I would say one arrested? And
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Speaker 1: how is the White House not concerned over bringing down
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Speaker 1: this entire White House? I mean, there's no way to
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Speaker 1: separate Hunter Biden and the finance of what I referred
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Speaker 1: to as the Biden crime family from the president. None
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Speaker 1: of these deals exist without Joe Biden's involvement. None of
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Speaker 1: the money that was coming into Hunter Biden based on
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Speaker 1: his emails would have been possible. No one would have
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Speaker 1: been speaking to Hunter Biden on his own if it
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Speaker 1: wasn't for selling the access to his father when he
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Speaker 1: was the vice president. Now the president with these deals,
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Speaker 1: and yet the media is just continuing to act like
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Speaker 1: this is not a story. I believe they are worried
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Speaker 1: finally that this could bring down this PRESIDENCYE your reaction,
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Speaker 1: I think you can see this. They're finally worried about
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Speaker 1: this because the New York Times in Washington posts admitting
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Speaker 1: that the laptop and the emails are real and that
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Speaker 1: the connections are there. They obviously know that what had
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Speaker 1: been accused, what the Biden's had been accused ustav is accurate.
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Speaker 1: Because now as Durham is continuing this investigation, as he
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Speaker 1: has people that are indicted that are now talking, then
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Speaker 1: what they're doing is getting this information to pull it together.
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Speaker 1: But then it just shows you there were good actors
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Speaker 1: and bad actors in DOJ and FBI, and the people
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Speaker 1: that are the good actors that are there that are
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Speaker 1: doing their job, they want to be able to rebuild
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Speaker 1: that trust in the FBI and in the DOJ. So
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Speaker 1: this is going to be the time for them to
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Speaker 1: stand up and do their job and to rid the
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Speaker 1: DOJ and the FBI of these people that had politicized
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Speaker 1: their job and we're putting an agenda in front of
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Speaker 1: what they were supposed to be doing. Lastly, I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you about this hot mic that catched caught
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Speaker 1: a school board member literally asking to set Senator Marcia
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Speaker 1: Blackburn on fire. This happened during a meeting of the
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Speaker 1: Metropolitan Nashville Board of Public Education this week and this
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Speaker 1: hot mic kind of board member pondering, can we just
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Speaker 1: go set Marcia Blackburn on fire? Your reaction to again
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Speaker 1: another liberal caught on a hot mic wanting you to
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Speaker 1: be caught on fire. And unfortunately we're seeing this be
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Speaker 1: a trend around the country when they don't like someone
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Speaker 1: that's speaking, a parent, a concerned citizen, or you as
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Speaker 1: a senator. Well, and that is what they did, and
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Speaker 1: it was caught, it is being investigated by law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: We're going to leave all of that with Sam. But
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Speaker 1: to the broader point, it shows you how far the
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Speaker 1: left is pushing to take control of classrooms, what kids
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Speaker 1: are learning, to disrupt our school system, to cause confusion,
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Speaker 1: to cause division. And I do not know this school
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Speaker 1: board member. They were upset with my line of questioning.
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Speaker 1: When I questioned Judge Jackson, who is nominated for the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I did a line of questioning on CRT
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Speaker 1: and the woke kindergarten program that is taught as a
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Speaker 1: private school where she's on the school board. And I
14:31
Speaker 1: asked about the Virginia Military Institute decision that Justice Ginsberg
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Speaker 1: wrote where she said there are enduring differences between male
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Speaker 1: and female, and Judge Jackson said she wasn't familiar with
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Speaker 1: that case and couldn't give me an opinion. So I
14:51
Speaker 1: looked at her and I said, well, can you give
14:53
Speaker 1: me the definition of woman? And she said I can't.
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Speaker 1: So this school board member was obviously upset with me
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Speaker 1: doing the job I'm elected to do, which is to
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Speaker 1: ask hard questions of people that are up for a
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Speaker 1: lifetime appointment on the US Supreme Court. Yeah, it's part
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Speaker 1: of the job. You did your job, and it's said
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Speaker 1: that people say they should set you on fire because
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Speaker 1: of its center. Appreciate your time. We'll talk to you again.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure real Stager keep it up. Thank you, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: This past week, I got a phone call from someone
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Speaker 1: that I do business with. Many of you know that
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Speaker 1: I own a gun range in a gun store and
15:35
Speaker 1: we buy a lot of AMMO, and one of the
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Speaker 1: guys that buy AMO from we become colleagues, friends, and
15:45
Speaker 1: during the AMMO shortage, you get to know people, and
15:47
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that when you pay for AMO,
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Speaker 1: you're given it to good human beings. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people can buy from and you want to make
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Speaker 1: sure that you source it from people that are have
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Speaker 1: integrity and honesty. And that's actually how I met Ken
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Speaker 1: Cooper through another colleague, and he told me about this
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Speaker 1: story about his friend Andrew Slobosian and his grandparents getting
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Speaker 1: out of Ukraine. And he was telling me about what
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Speaker 1: they've been doing trying to help many of the people
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Speaker 1: that have had to flee Ukraine, getting them basic necessities.
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Speaker 1: You have well over a million people that have been
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Speaker 1: forced to flee Ukraine and they're in desperate need of
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Speaker 1: basic things. And then he started telling me about a
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Speaker 1: friend of his by the name of Andrew Slobosian and
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Speaker 1: how his grandparents were involved in what's happening in Ukraine,
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Speaker 1: and I said, we were talking about it, said we
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Speaker 1: got to tell this story because it's such a great
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Speaker 1: story and there's people that need help and we can
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Speaker 1: help them, and I'm going to bring them on now.
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Speaker 1: Ken Cooper is Kylie Gamine and his friend Andrew H.
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Speaker 1: Slovazian Andrew, Ken, I appreciate both of you guys coming
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Speaker 1: on in Ken this story. I want to I want
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Speaker 1: to start with um. Really, I guess, I say, Andrew's
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Speaker 1: part of the story. You have a direct connection to Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: Specifically through family members, talk a little bit about what
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Speaker 1: you know, your connection and what's going on right now
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Absolutely, and thank you Ben for having me um.
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Speaker 1: So it's been a wild ride to say the least,
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Speaker 1: and we're certainly not seeing it first hand, but reliving
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Speaker 1: it through our family members. So as you mentioned, yes,
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Speaker 1: we do have a lot of family members, grandparents, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, uncle's, cousins, think and and others that still
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Speaker 1: live there, and it has been wild, to say the least,
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Speaker 1: just hearing from them, you know, from the time that
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Speaker 1: Russia first invaded Ukraine, to the bombs going off, you know,
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Speaker 1: my grandparents windows getting blown out from their apartment buildings
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Speaker 1: that they live in because of a bomb landing close by,
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Speaker 1: and then finally, I mean they're in their eighties, so
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Speaker 1: it took a while to convince them to you know,
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Speaker 1: it's time to leave, and they finally did, and that
18:21
Speaker 1: was a very harrowing journey for them. And what would
18:25
Speaker 1: normally take probably a day to make the trip, you know,
18:29
Speaker 1: took multiple days, countless hours and just a lot of
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Speaker 1: luck to get to get from Hikov where they lived,
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Speaker 1: to all the way through Kiev, all the way to
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Speaker 1: viv on the west side and then through the Polish borders.
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Speaker 1: So my family, I want to I just gotta step back.
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Speaker 1: I gotta step back for a second. And I'm just
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Speaker 1: thinking about you guys getting phone calls from your eighty
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Speaker 1: year old grandparents who are in Ukraine. You're witnessing and
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Speaker 1: watching what's happening on TV. You're seeing that war is
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Speaker 1: about to break out. There's all these telegraphs coming from
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Speaker 1: Putin that this is going to go down. You know
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Speaker 1: they're there. You obviously want them to leave, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure they're saying, look, we're eighty, this is our home.
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Speaker 1: We're not leaving. How long did it take, you guys?
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Speaker 1: How many weeks were they in a in the war
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Speaker 1: going on before they finally decided, Okay, are you guys
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Speaker 1: convincing just to get out? Sure it was about two weeks.
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Speaker 1: It was two weeks, and Hike, you've got hit pretty hard.
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Speaker 1: And I think the back and forth of Ukrainian army
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Speaker 1: versus Russian army, you know, back and forth, fighting, bombs
19:37
Speaker 1: going off, until they finally said, listen, it's getting close.
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Speaker 1: I mean they hear these bombs all the time. When
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Speaker 1: I was talking to them, on the phone. You hear
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Speaker 1: the sirens going off in the background, and we do
19:49
Speaker 1: it through Skype, you know, so I can see their
19:51
Speaker 1: worries things like that. But it took two weeks until
19:54
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, we got to do this
19:57
Speaker 1: or we're not going to make it out alive. So
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Speaker 1: they finally you pulled the trigger and made the move
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Speaker 1: and everything worked out in the end. How hard was
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Speaker 1: the evacuation process? I mean, at that point, you're in
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Speaker 1: an active war zone, your grandparents are I should say,
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Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out the logistics. It's not like
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Speaker 1: you can just say, hey, go to the airport and
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Speaker 1: catch this plane. I booked you on it. It one
20:18
Speaker 1: twenty seven out of Terminal C. It doesn't work that
20:22
Speaker 1: way at this point. So what do the logistics look
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Speaker 1: like for them? Absolutely so. Luckily they were close to
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Speaker 1: a train station, which is more of like a local
20:33
Speaker 1: train station. It's not one that runs, you know, through
20:36
Speaker 1: different countries through Europe, So it was a matter of
20:40
Speaker 1: going there and standing in line. My grandma was telling
20:43
Speaker 1: me the story of exactly what happened is the lines
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Speaker 1: were astronomical, and you don't know. You go there not
20:50
Speaker 1: knowing whether you're getting on a train or not. You're
20:53
Speaker 1: not buying tickets or anything like that. It's kind of
20:56
Speaker 1: first come, first first, you know, first come first get
21:00
Speaker 1: and they stood in line. Somebody else said, hey, there's
21:04
Speaker 1: going to be a train pulling up on another line
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Speaker 1: that's going to be going through Kiev to leave, or
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Speaker 1: a town right outside of Leviev. And they said, listen,
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Speaker 1: we know where that is. That's on the western side
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Speaker 1: of Ukraine. We have to go there because otherwise we'd
21:20
Speaker 1: be standing here for days. So they jumped a couple
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Speaker 1: of lines, and again, these are eighty year old women
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Speaker 1: making this trek with nothing but a little backpack on
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Speaker 1: because that's all you can take with you. Andrew, I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine first you had to convince your grandparents to
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Speaker 1: leave a country they didn't want to leave and leave
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Speaker 1: their home. But what was the conversation like when they're
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Speaker 1: even talking about what to take. I mean, there's got
21:48
Speaker 1: to be a grieving process there in a sense where
21:51
Speaker 1: you know there's a good chance you're probably never gonna
21:54
Speaker 1: come back, and your stuff if you do come back,
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Speaker 1: may not be there. It may be destroyed from the bombing.
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Speaker 1: How do they even decide what to take. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean it was I think it was a last minute
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Speaker 1: decision as far as what are my most valuable things,
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Speaker 1: and most of it is you know, identification, documents, passports,
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Speaker 1: you know, titles, deeds, things like that. I think that's
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Speaker 1: pretty much the most the most important things that they
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Speaker 1: took at. So everything then that you would put in
22:25
Speaker 1: your safe, I think was thrown into a backpack. And
22:28
Speaker 1: that's what most everybody's leaving with. Just enough to get
22:31
Speaker 1: them by for a couple of days and that's it
22:34
Speaker 1: and documents. That's all they left with, with the clothes
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Speaker 1: on their back and a little backpack. What about money
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Speaker 1: at that point, I mean they stayed for two weeks
22:43
Speaker 1: during the war. What happened with money? The banking, all
22:47
Speaker 1: of those things that most people ask me questions about.
22:50
Speaker 1: They asked that same question, what do you do with this?
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Speaker 1: How does this work? Sure? And I think they took
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Speaker 1: some I don't want to I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: know the details as far as the exact amounts that
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Speaker 1: were taken or anything like that, but again enough to
23:06
Speaker 1: get by what The one really positive thing that I've
23:10
Speaker 1: heard from both of my grandparents coming through this process
23:14
Speaker 1: is anybody that they offered money to. Everybody turned it down.
23:18
Speaker 1: Um in western Ukraine where they stayed at night with
23:21
Speaker 1: a family that was hosting them, to you know, the
23:24
Speaker 1: bus drivers, uh, to you know individuals in Poland that
23:29
Speaker 1: we're helping them out. Everybody said, listen, you can pay
23:33
Speaker 1: it forward. You can you can buy some supplies for
23:35
Speaker 1: the next family that's going to be coming through our house.
23:38
Speaker 1: But they said, we would be you know, dishonored if
23:41
Speaker 1: we were to take your money. So that was that
23:43
Speaker 1: was a really positive thing. A lot of individuals helping individuals.
23:48
Speaker 1: Let's talk about their homes that they left. Do they
23:52
Speaker 1: know about what the status is of their property at
23:55
Speaker 1: this point? Is there anyone there to even tontact or
23:58
Speaker 1: talk to neighbors, family friends to say, hey, is my
24:01
Speaker 1: home still standing? Not at this time. You know, they
24:06
Speaker 1: had some close relatives and friends that still stayed back,
24:11
Speaker 1: but nobody that they've been in contact with. So at
24:14
Speaker 1: this point it's you know, your guess is as good
24:17
Speaker 1: as mine if it's still standing. We just do not know.
24:21
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the refugee aspect of this, the crisis.
24:26
Speaker 1: Well over a million people have fled Ukraine. Now your
24:31
Speaker 1: parents journey. How long of the journey was it and
24:34
Speaker 1: where are they now? Sure? So my grandparents, so they
24:39
Speaker 1: made it. You know, that train trip it was pretty
24:43
Speaker 1: much an eighteen hour train trip with I mean it
24:47
Speaker 1: was packed, like they said, it was like pack like
24:49
Speaker 1: sardine cans. You were shoulder to shoulder, no place to sit,
24:53
Speaker 1: and if there were some seats, people were taking turns
24:56
Speaker 1: sitting on them. Pretty much one bathroom per you know
25:00
Speaker 1: train cart. So it was just packed, but people would
25:03
Speaker 1: do anything to get out. And then they stayed a
25:06
Speaker 1: couple of nights with a family in Viva, and then
25:11
Speaker 1: took a bus ride which would normally be a couple
25:14
Speaker 1: hours through the Polish border, which I think took eighteen
25:18
Speaker 1: hours on a bus to get from western Ukraine to
25:23
Speaker 1: Warsaw where some of my family members. My mom flew
25:28
Speaker 1: over from Detroit to Warsaw to meet them, just to
25:32
Speaker 1: make sure they get situated, you know, and then we
25:34
Speaker 1: started working on getting them over to the United States,
25:38
Speaker 1: which they had their visas, so everything you know, logistically
25:41
Speaker 1: worked out well other than just buying a ticket taking
25:44
Speaker 1: the COVID test, but again, something that would normally take
25:48
Speaker 1: a couple hours was taken three quarters of a day.
25:53
Speaker 1: They're now in the US, which I think is incredible
25:55
Speaker 1: part of this story. And luckily they have family members
25:59
Speaker 1: like you guys are aiding and helping and supporting. When
26:02
Speaker 1: you when you look back over the last several weeks
26:05
Speaker 1: from a monetary standpoint, what did it cost to get
26:08
Speaker 1: them out, get them where they need to be, get
26:10
Speaker 1: them to America? I don't know if I would be
26:13
Speaker 1: able to even put a number on that. Flights there,
26:16
Speaker 1: hotels there which were incredibly hard to find, import in Poland,
26:22
Speaker 1: flights back, you know, things that what's nice is like said,
26:27
Speaker 1: in Poland and Warsaw, there were a lot of you know,
26:30
Speaker 1: individuals willing to help to help, and not just individuals
26:34
Speaker 1: but businesses. Cafes were you know, offering free to almost
26:39
Speaker 1: you know, very very cheap food to refugees and things
26:43
Speaker 1: like that. I would say, monetarily overall, five to ten
26:49
Speaker 1: thousand amazing. And you think, and the reason why I
26:51
Speaker 1: bring up that number is there's a lot of people
26:53
Speaker 1: that are refugees that don't have five ten grand to
26:57
Speaker 1: be able to pull off what you guys were able
27:01
Speaker 1: to pull off for your family, Which brings me to
27:04
Speaker 1: the other part. Of this conversation, Ken, I want to
27:08
Speaker 1: bring you in real quick because when you called me,
27:10
Speaker 1: you said, we're putting together basic needs and necessities and
27:15
Speaker 1: helping get them to people that need them, the refugees,
27:19
Speaker 1: those that have fled Ukraine. And you're doing this just
27:22
Speaker 1: because of this connection with your friend Andrew and this story.
27:28
Speaker 1: And I want to pick it up there. When did
27:30
Speaker 1: you realize this was something? And you deal with logistics,
27:33
Speaker 1: you guys ship from around the world and the business
27:36
Speaker 1: world that you're in, But when did you realize this
27:38
Speaker 1: is something we need to get involved in and we
27:40
Speaker 1: need to do it right now. Yeah, so you're exactly right.
27:45
Speaker 1: We're out to dinner, we're talking about the grandparents that
27:48
Speaker 1: I've met, that I've stood on the sidelines with Andrew
27:51
Speaker 1: and his grandparents at my daughter's soccer game nine years old.
27:54
Speaker 1: And you know, you go from the last time I
27:57
Speaker 1: saw these people were cheering on nine year old girls
27:59
Speaker 1: play soccer, to now we're having dinner talking about how
28:03
Speaker 1: we need to hurry up and help get these folks
28:06
Speaker 1: out of Ukraine before things get bad, and giving them
28:09
Speaker 1: our support and hoping that things don't get bad. And
28:12
Speaker 1: nobody knew I mean, this is a month ago. Nobody
28:14
Speaker 1: knew that Putin was about to invade. And we pull
28:17
Speaker 1: in our driveways and we find out, oh my gosh,
28:20
Speaker 1: I mean literally twenty minutes ago. And we left the
28:22
Speaker 1: restaurant it was hey, we wish them the best. Then
28:25
Speaker 1: we pull in our homes and we find out the
28:27
Speaker 1: invasion is starting and these people are most likely stuck
28:30
Speaker 1: over there, and it's heartwrenching, and so you fast forwards.
28:34
Speaker 1: Thing drags on a couple of weeks and a couple
28:37
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I'm talking to our freight forwarder, who
28:40
Speaker 1: is our logistics international shipping agent who gets goods all
28:44
Speaker 1: around the globe, and he tells me we're talking about
28:47
Speaker 1: a load that I'm bringing in from Europe of goods
28:49
Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I got to hop off this call.
28:52
Speaker 1: This is about air freight that I'm sending to Ukraine tomorrow,
28:56
Speaker 1: and I have to take this call because these are
28:58
Speaker 1: urgent goods to help their refugees. And said, what kind
29:01
Speaker 1: of stuff are we talking about? He said, well, medical,
29:03
Speaker 1: first aid, sanitation stuff to the refugee camps. You know,
29:07
Speaker 1: we have to get it there because there's millions of
29:09
Speaker 1: people coming across the border. Well, when he tells me
29:11
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that he needs, I go, hey,
29:13
Speaker 1: I got a friend I think might be able to
29:14
Speaker 1: help with this. So I hang up the phone. I
29:16
Speaker 1: call one of my best friends here in Finny, Ohio's
29:18
Speaker 1: names Rich Kramer. He and his dad Paul run city
29:21
Speaker 1: uniforms in Linen there. They're like a uniform and janitorial
29:25
Speaker 1: and sanitation company. And he says, man, I've got like
29:28
Speaker 1: twelve twelve pallets of that stuff. I think I could
29:31
Speaker 1: get it out of here like tomorrow if you're ready
29:33
Speaker 1: for it. So we organize the goods. We send it
29:36
Speaker 1: to our freight forwarder, who has a nonprofit arm of
29:39
Speaker 1: their business. It's related but obviously a separate entity. It's
29:43
Speaker 1: a five or one C three and they do amazing
29:45
Speaker 1: stuff all over the globe South Africa and Bosnia and
29:48
Speaker 1: Lebanon and Panama. They've got orphanages and hospitals and schools.
29:54
Speaker 1: And he said, then, this is what we do, the
29:57
Speaker 1: fact that we need. And by the way, this is
29:59
Speaker 1: the moment where I say to people, this is why
30:01
Speaker 1: I have no doubt there's a God. And I say
30:04
Speaker 1: that because I don't think that any of what you're
30:07
Speaker 1: just describing with what you do and shipping and this
30:10
Speaker 1: dinner and this relationship and knowing that you knew someone
30:14
Speaker 1: that had a large quantity of these goods that are
30:16
Speaker 1: desperately needed from from a company that just does something
30:20
Speaker 1: that's so you know, basic, right. I mean, this isn't sexy,
30:23
Speaker 1: but this is exactly what the people need, the basic
30:26
Speaker 1: things that you need in life, and to be able
30:29
Speaker 1: to know how to even get it there. It's incredible
30:32
Speaker 1: to me that all this is happening just from random
30:35
Speaker 1: people talking. And I say, it's amazing, and I believe
30:37
Speaker 1: there's a God because I don't think all this happens
30:40
Speaker 1: by accidents. Then you're absolutely right because you me and
30:47
Speaker 1: countless of other Americans, obviously a lot of them are
30:49
Speaker 1: going to be listening to your show. Everybody's heart goes out.
30:52
Speaker 1: If you have a heart and you watch television, you
30:55
Speaker 1: listen to the radio, you see what's going on, you go,
30:57
Speaker 1: I want to do something. I feel for those people.
30:59
Speaker 1: It's aside from the politics. These are people fleeing their
31:02
Speaker 1: homes to escape getting bombed or shot down. Right, They're
31:06
Speaker 1: leaving everything they have behind. How can I help? Is
31:09
Speaker 1: the question? That comes to mind, and you feel powerless
31:11
Speaker 1: generally because the world feels so big. But in this case,
31:14
Speaker 1: you're right. God put people in each other's pathways. One
31:18
Speaker 1: guy knew how to get stuff where it needs to go.
31:20
Speaker 1: Another guy knew somebody else who had the right stuff.
31:23
Speaker 1: We make the connection and the project has gone from there,
31:26
Speaker 1: and so let's talk about this stuff. Let's talk about
31:30
Speaker 1: the stuff real quick. When you say this is the
31:31
Speaker 1: basic things needed to explain how basic these things are
31:35
Speaker 1: that they people desperately need. Yeah, so we'll give them
31:40
Speaker 1: a website they can hop too to see the specifics,
31:42
Speaker 1: but in general, we're talking about hygiene supplies. So it's soap, shampoo, lotion,
31:47
Speaker 1: Q tips, band aids, antiseptic whites, just things that it
31:51
Speaker 1: takes people to get toothbrush, toothpaste through their day to
31:55
Speaker 1: day life. Because, like Andrew said, when is eighty year
31:57
Speaker 1: old grandma grabs her stuff, she grabbed the documents that
32:00
Speaker 1: prove who she is so that she can maybe someday
32:03
Speaker 1: get back to the home that she left. And that's it.
32:06
Speaker 1: That's all they have. Yeah. One of the things I
32:09
Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't understand. And Andrew, you
32:11
Speaker 1: can probably talk to this real quick is they weren't
32:14
Speaker 1: allowing you to bring luggage while traveling when you were
32:18
Speaker 1: trying to get out of Ukraine. Many people I've talked
32:20
Speaker 1: to said they left their luggage at the bus stops
32:24
Speaker 1: or the train stops because they said, no luggage you
32:26
Speaker 1: could take a back like imagine getting on a flight
32:30
Speaker 1: leaving your home country and all you can take is
32:32
Speaker 1: your carry on because they said, we just don't have
32:35
Speaker 1: the room for a suitcase with personal belongings outside of
32:40
Speaker 1: the paperwork you described, and that's probably what your grandparents
32:43
Speaker 1: dealt with as well. Yeah, I mean there were so
32:48
Speaker 1: many seen pictures and you know, first see and testimonials
32:52
Speaker 1: of just things, just bags, luggages, just left you at
32:57
Speaker 1: the train station, at the bus stations because every time
33:00
Speaker 1: they know somebody wants to take a big piece of luggage,
33:03
Speaker 1: that could be a person sitting in that spot. So
33:06
Speaker 1: no luggage, just a very very small carry on size bag. Quickly, guys,
33:13
Speaker 1: tell people where they can go to help if you
33:15
Speaker 1: want to make a donation and you want to help
33:18
Speaker 1: pay for the shipping costs, because this is one of
33:20
Speaker 1: the things I think it's so neat about what you
33:22
Speaker 1: guys are doing is This is really simple. There's goods
33:25
Speaker 1: that are already there and we just need to help
33:28
Speaker 1: raise the money through this nonprofit to send the stuff
33:32
Speaker 1: that people need. So tell people where they can go,
33:35
Speaker 1: what website, and how they can get involved. And so
33:39
Speaker 1: folks go to Buffalo Cartridge dot com. That's our business
33:42
Speaker 1: that does the ammunition you're referring to earlier. If they
33:45
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Cartridge dot com and scroll down to
33:47
Speaker 1: the middle of the page, they'll see project help Now
33:50
Speaker 1: and you can see a complete overview of the project.
33:52
Speaker 1: But there is a link to Dtcare and that's the
33:55
Speaker 1: nonprofit that's linked to the logistics company that's getting this
33:59
Speaker 1: stuff where it needs to go and getting it distributed
34:01
Speaker 1: on the ground. And then you're one hundred percent right.
34:03
Speaker 1: We have goods flowing in from all over the country.
34:07
Speaker 1: What we need help with from your listeners right now
34:09
Speaker 1: is for people who can help pay for the air
34:11
Speaker 1: freight to get it where it needs to go. The
34:13
Speaker 1: nonprofit is doing their best, they're stretching their resources as
34:16
Speaker 1: far as they can, but there are millions of people
34:19
Speaker 1: who need these goods, and so if you go to
34:22
Speaker 1: our website, Buffalo cartridge dot com go to Project help Now,
34:25
Speaker 1: or if you go directly to the nonprofit, which is
34:28
Speaker 1: dtcare dot org forward slash donate. I don't care if
34:32
Speaker 1: it ten dollars, twenty dollars, whatever you can spare. God
34:35
Speaker 1: bless you because you are directly paying for goods to
34:38
Speaker 1: get to people who left their homes behind, and we're
34:41
Speaker 1: providing what they need to continue on. You know, one
34:44
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I wanted to have you guys
34:46
Speaker 1: on tonight is because this is all being done by people.
34:51
Speaker 1: They're volunteering their time, just like you, and that's why
34:54
Speaker 1: I love it. This is not some big, grand corporate operation.
34:58
Speaker 1: This is people that are getting pause with their daily
35:01
Speaker 1: lives and their work what you guys do with Ammo
35:04
Speaker 1: every day to add this to your website to help
35:06
Speaker 1: get the goods over there needed because of a personal
35:09
Speaker 1: connection between you and Andrew. And that's why I love this.
35:14
Speaker 1: Because you want to talk about shoes shoes stringing it.
35:16
Speaker 1: This is shoestringing it and I think it's so great.
35:19
Speaker 1: So Andrew, I'm so happy that you've gotten your grandparents
35:22
Speaker 1: here to the US. It's part of the miracle of
35:25
Speaker 1: this story that they're one alive until you got them here.
35:29
Speaker 1: And Ken, thank you for hitting pause with your work
35:32
Speaker 1: life to spend the time to do this, and again
35:36
Speaker 1: one more time for people that are listening tonight. The
35:38
Speaker 1: two websites you can go to if you want to
35:41
Speaker 1: make a donation and help so it's Buffalo Cartridge dot
35:45
Speaker 1: com and then click the link to Project Now, or
35:48
Speaker 1: you can go directly to the nonprofit website, which is
35:51
Speaker 1: dtcare dot org forward slash donate. There you go. All right, guys, Andrew,
35:57
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Tony Ken, thank you as well,
36:01
Speaker 1: and I hope that a lot of people listening will
36:03
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