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Inside the Epstein Files Release: a One-on-One w Chad Prather · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is a very complicated story that I'm going to
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Speaker 1: do everything I can to break it down for you,
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Speaker 1: and it is about the Jeffrey Epstein files. There was
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Speaker 1: a group of individuals that were asked to come to
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Speaker 1: the White House that received part one of the Epstein files,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to have that guest, Chad Prather join
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Speaker 1: us in just a moment. But before we get to that,
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Speaker 1: I want you to understand the real part of this
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Speaker 1: story that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of people saying they're angry by what was released, basically
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Speaker 1: implying that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a
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Speaker 1: reason why there was nothing new there, and this is
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Speaker 1: what you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has
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Speaker 1: told the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York
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Speaker 1: FBI office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are
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Speaker 1: doing this against the wishes and the command of their
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Speaker 1: bosses that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the
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Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney
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Speaker 1: General Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Ptel to handle
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Speaker 1: the seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly
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Speaker 1: refusing to provide her with the quote full set of
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Speaker 1: documents related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That
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Speaker 1: is what a letter from her office revealed to the
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Speaker 1: American people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated
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Speaker 1: February the twenty seven, from Bondie to Patel was obtained
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Speaker 1: by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests
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Speaker 1: that they actually received this letter at the White House Briefing. Now,
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Speaker 1: at the White House Briefing, they were given Epstein files,
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Speaker 1: Phase one briefing books on exactly the laying out of
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Speaker 1: what they do have. The big part of the meeting
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Speaker 1: which was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam
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Speaker 1: Bondi and the FBI director explained to them very clearly
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Speaker 1: that there are New York FBI officials that have gone
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Speaker 1: completely rogue. The ag letter says the FBI in New
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Speaker 1: York is withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the
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Speaker 1: reports of the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well.
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Speaker 1: Bondi began her letter by saying, this, before you came
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Speaker 1: into office, I requested the full and complete files related
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Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received
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Speaker 1: approximately two hundred pages of documents, which consisted primarily of
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Speaker 1: flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims'
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Speaker 1: names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was
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Speaker 1: the full set of documents responsive to my request, and
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Speaker 1: was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received
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Speaker 1: the full set of documents. The Attorney General continued before
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Speaker 1: we reporting that she got a tip from a source
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Speaker 1: at the FBI Field Office in New York, stating that
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Speaker 1: the bureau was withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I
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Speaker 1: learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in
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Speaker 1: New York was in possession of thousands of pages of
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Speaker 1: documents related to the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 1: Bondi continued in her letter to the FBI director. Despite
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Speaker 1: my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of
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Speaker 1: any of these files. Now, let's just pause for a
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Speaker 1: second and dissect what we just learned. Pam Bondi, who
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Speaker 1: is the Attorney journal the United States of America, who
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Speaker 1: is in charge of the FBI, has rogue deep state
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Speaker 1: officials in the FBI office in New York that deliberately
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Speaker 1: lied to her face and claimed that they had given
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Speaker 1: her all of the documents, when in fact they may
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Speaker 1: have given her less than about ten percent percent of
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Speaker 1: what they actually have on hand. This is the deep
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Speaker 1: state and just how corrupt our government has become now.
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Speaker 1: Bondi noted that she had already spoken to Cashptel after
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Speaker 1: receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing that the FBI
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Speaker 1: director was just as surprised as I was to learn
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Speaker 1: the new information quote unquote. She then handed Caspatel too
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Speaker 1: hard deadlines. These are important for you to understand. By
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Speaker 1: eight am on Friday morning, the FBI will deliver the
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Speaker 1: full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents,
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Speaker 1: audio and video recordings, and material related to Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained.
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Speaker 1: That is deadline number one in this letter. Deadline number two,
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Speaker 1: she says, I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate
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Speaker 1: investigation to why my order to the FBI was not followed.
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Speaker 1: You will deliver to me a comprehend report of your
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Speaker 1: findings and proposed personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion,
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Speaker 1: Bondi added that she knows that Patel has committed to
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Speaker 1: transparency for the American people, and that is exactly what
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Speaker 1: they did together at the White House on Thursday. Now,
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Speaker 1: a Department of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the
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Speaker 1: FBI Field office in New York with held Epstein files
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Speaker 1: in a statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also
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Speaker 1: claimed that Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on
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Speaker 1: the same page. Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying,
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Speaker 1: quote new the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the
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Speaker 1: last forty eight hours a DJ source telling Real Clear
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Speaker 1: Politics that additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the
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Speaker 1: DOJ by the FBI Field Office in New York. I'm
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Speaker 1: told that the letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate,
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Speaker 1: but the speculation that the FBI Director Patel a Bondi
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Speaker 1: are at odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: of the same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, the media is trying to do anything they
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Speaker 1: can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit,
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Speaker 1: especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we
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Speaker 1: now know from the meeting at the White House with
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Speaker 1: those that were asked to come and receive Phase one
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Speaker 1: of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear
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Speaker 1: that the two people are on the same page, and
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Speaker 1: the letter that she was sending to Cashptel was really
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Speaker 1: a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the
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Speaker 1: job that I am instructing you to do. It was
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Speaker 1: empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many
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Speaker 1: documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the
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Speaker 1: FBI Field Office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to
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Speaker 1: the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox
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Speaker 1: News's Jesse Waters primetime show that are office would begin
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Speaker 1: releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she
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Speaker 1: did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the
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Speaker 1: words that she was using on TV saying that she
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Speaker 1: had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing
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Speaker 1: a lot of information. Pambondi going on TV allowed for
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Speaker 1: the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that is
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Speaker 1: exactly why that brave person came over and said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: you don't have all of the files that you've been
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Speaker 1: told that you have In other words, there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of people in the deep state that have been
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Speaker 1: lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful
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Speaker 1: people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just
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Speaker 1: point out one final thing, there are a lot in
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Speaker 1: the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers
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Speaker 1: were the ones that got this story that they went
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Speaker 1: around the mainstream media. They were spotted out the White
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Speaker 1: House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one.
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Speaker 1: me now to talk about this. Chad, Let's start from
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Speaker 1: the very beginning. Uh, when did you get asked to
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Speaker 1: come to the White House? And did you even know
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Speaker 1: what the meeting was gonna be about or who was going.
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Speaker 2: To be there? Hey, Ben, it's gonna talk to you man.
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Speaker 2: I did not know. In fact, we were invited for
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Speaker 2: a completely different reason. We were not invited on the
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Speaker 2: basis of knowing anything about the Epstein file. In fact,
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Speaker 2: we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D.
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Speaker 2: Vance to talk about messaging and specifically if we had
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Speaker 2: opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and
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Speaker 2: talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing.
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Speaker 2: And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort
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Speaker 2: of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to
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Speaker 2: deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature
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Speaker 2: so that the truth could get out there to people,
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Speaker 2: I mean people with an audience, people like me and
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Speaker 2: people like you. And this was a part of that.
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Speaker 2: What happened as we met with various cabinet members today,
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Speaker 2: it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it.
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Speaker 2: Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director
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Speaker 2: Cash Mattel of the FBI, and she said, you know,
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Speaker 2: in as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking
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Speaker 2: gun here, she said, but we do want to give
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Speaker 2: you phase one. She said. The significant thing that we
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Speaker 2: want to expose is there's a letter that reveals that
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Speaker 2: we're missing thousands of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously,
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Speaker 2: when I's dropped in your lap and then immediately get
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Speaker 2: called in the Oval Office to visit with the president.
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Speaker 2: You're excited. I mean, especially if there's anyone out there
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Speaker 2: like myself and many others who have done research and
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Speaker 2: trying to expose the tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors.
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Speaker 2: You're excited about that. And obviously you want to be
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Speaker 2: able to demonstrate to your audience that the administration is
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Speaker 2: trying to do what they said they were going to do.
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Speaker 2: Obviously wasn't taking that.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of turf war going on right now.
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Speaker 1: And I really want to break this down because there
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Speaker 1: were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come
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Speaker 1: in for this meeting, and all of you were told
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Speaker 1: it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously
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Speaker 1: that was to get you there to keep this quiet.
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Speaker 1: There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there
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Speaker 1: that were left out of this meeting that are now
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Speaker 1: angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a
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Speaker 1: big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's
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Speaker 1: nothing new in these files. That this is an embarrassment,
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Speaker 1: it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats saying this. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages to you going,
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Speaker 1: how do we screw this up so bad?
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Speaker 2: Today?
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Speaker 1: There's nothing in here that we didn't already know. This
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Speaker 1: is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think that's accurate.
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Speaker 1: And you just mentioned that letter, and that's something that
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Speaker 1: we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands of Epstein documents,
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Speaker 1: so yet you got confirmation that file today of what
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Speaker 1: a lot of what we'd heard about. But you mentioned
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Speaker 1: that letter, and so explain how important that is to
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Speaker 1: this being quote phase one.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't
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Speaker 2: phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front
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Speaker 2: of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to
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Speaker 2: forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney
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Speaker 2: General BONDI. Whether you agree with it or not, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we're all hopeful that this administration is going to do
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Speaker 2: what they say and they're going to be transparent. It's
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Speaker 2: not that there's nothing in that notebook, it's just not
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Speaker 2: what we want yet, And that's a big difference. We
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Speaker 2: all want more. We all demand the exposure and the truth.
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Speaker 2: We know that this is a serious subject matter. It's
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Speaker 2: a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question, there
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Speaker 2: are those who are out there who are saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: why weren't we invited, Well, there were literally fifteen sixteen
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Speaker 2: seats around the table. We were invited for a completely
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Speaker 2: different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben, and
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Speaker 2: I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers and
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Speaker 2: creators and hosts out there that I know, if they
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Speaker 2: had gotten the message that I got to be there,
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Speaker 2: they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said,
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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested
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Speaker 2: in being a part of that, because there was nothing
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Speaker 2: about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other
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Speaker 2: than we wanted to sit down and talk about message points.
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Speaker 2: We didn't ask for this folder. We didn't expect this folder.
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Speaker 2: We didn't know it.
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Speaker 1: Be clear, when you guys all got there, you just
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Speaker 1: and you and look everybody. I'm assuming it's like a
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Speaker 1: mini family reunion, as I call it. When I was
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Speaker 1: asked to go to the White House for back for
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Speaker 1: the State of the Union in twenty twenty, the last
16:21
Speaker 1: day of the Union, Donald Trump gave before the election
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Speaker 1: back then, you walk in the room pretty much you
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Speaker 1: know everybody. It's a tight conservative community that we live in.
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Speaker 1: You probably knew everybody. And did you notice then that
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Speaker 1: something was different, like, okay, this seems a little different
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Speaker 1: than what we were sold.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I thought we were on track for
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Speaker 2: everything that was going to be I think that a
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Speaker 2: general BONDI was trying to do something, as I said,
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Speaker 2: in good faith. Now to that degree, what in back
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Speaker 2: to your prior question, what that notebook does prove? And
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Speaker 2: there was some information in there that I had not seen.
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Speaker 2: And I've done extensive research on Epstein. I know more
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Speaker 2: about Epstein than the average person knows. We've done some
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Speaker 2: very deep dives on Epstein and exposed a lot of
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Speaker 2: things that people have never thought about. There were some
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Speaker 2: things in there that I've never seen before. To me,
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Speaker 2: and to her defense, she said, it's not a smoking gun,
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Speaker 2: but it's the first step. What we want you to
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Speaker 2: see is that there's a lot of documents that have
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Speaker 2: been withheld by the FBI. That's the significance to this notebook.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, yes, we want more, but what this
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Speaker 2: notebook proves is that there is more. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: more and the FBI has been withholding that. So to
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Speaker 2: post that, you know, to post a picture with the
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Speaker 2: notebook to me is to say, okay, we want to
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Speaker 2: show you one that the administration is trying to give
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Speaker 2: us some information. They're exposing what's being withheld. But also
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Speaker 2: this is a post that says, hey, we want to
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Speaker 2: hold you accountable to give us this information as well.
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Speaker 2: Now I can't explain while others were invited or not
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Speaker 2: invited or whatever, this was a matter that everybody was
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Speaker 2: called off guard. And I promise you'd been anybody that
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Speaker 2: had received that would I mean, what are we supposed
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Speaker 2: to do throw it back in the face of Attorney
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Speaker 2: General Bondie and say we don't want this notebook? No,
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Speaker 2: of course we're going to take it. So as soon
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Speaker 2: as she gave it to us, we were immediately and
18:19
Speaker 2: you know how it is. It's President Trump called us
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Speaker 2: into the Oval office for a visit. We had to
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Speaker 2: get up and leave. We didn't know what was in
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Speaker 2: the notebook and.
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Speaker 1: Then a right, So so hold on, so let's talk
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Speaker 1: about today. You guys, am, assuming did you come in?
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Speaker 1: And I want to paint this picture because it's just
18:34
Speaker 1: when you get to experiences that really is fun. Did
18:38
Speaker 1: you go in through security by the EEO B and
18:40
Speaker 1: then they walked you guys into the briefing room. Did
18:43
Speaker 1: you come in by the White House side on the
18:45
Speaker 1: West Wing side? And then when did and then where
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Speaker 1: all did you guys go, because it sounds like you
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Speaker 1: had multiple briefings like here and then oh, we're going
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Speaker 1: to go over here and then we're going to the
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Speaker 1: Oval Office.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't actually, and you're familiar with the
18:58
Speaker 2: West Wing. We went into the West Wing entrance, and
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Speaker 2: for those of you who don't know, you immediately check
19:03
Speaker 2: your cell phone, camera, equipment, device, whatever into a locker.
19:08
Speaker 2: After the cocaine scandal of July back two years ago,
19:11
Speaker 2: we all have about the lockers in the right So
19:14
Speaker 2: there's a locker, and you don't take a phone with you.
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Speaker 2: So we spend hours in there without a phone, without
19:19
Speaker 2: a camera. We're not in there looking things up on
19:22
Speaker 2: our phone, checking out the White House WiFi. We're not
19:24
Speaker 2: doing that. You know. It's a very secure space. So
19:27
Speaker 2: we spent the entire time in the Roosevelt Room, which
19:30
Speaker 2: of course is the conference room, which is one door
19:33
Speaker 2: separated from the Oval Office. President Trump came in a
19:36
Speaker 2: little point of trivia. Note it was kind of cool.
19:38
Speaker 2: Harrison Butker, the placekicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I
19:42
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't out him like that, but he was there
19:44
Speaker 2: for a visit. It's great to shake his hand. And
19:47
Speaker 2: then the cabinet members came in and visited with us.
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Speaker 2: We did not expect every and we didn't know who
19:53
Speaker 2: was coming. We didn't know who would be coming next.
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Speaker 2: In fact, one of our mutual friends he told me,
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Speaker 2: he said, I did not know this order was gonna happen. Uh.
20:04
Speaker 2: And so as soon as I got dropped in our lamp,
20:06
Speaker 2: we were immediately called in the Oval office. Now you
20:08
Speaker 2: know you come out the back door. We did not know.
20:12
Speaker 2: Here's the here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Here, by the way, was that your first time in
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Speaker 1: the OV? Was that the for your first office?
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Speaker 2: First time in the office?
20:18
Speaker 1: Can you and I? Can you and I just take
20:20
Speaker 1: a moment and and and and explain for people I
20:24
Speaker 1: don't care you. You have been very blessed in your
20:26
Speaker 1: life and I have to have moments in our in
20:30
Speaker 1: our careers where we've gotten to do some pretty cool things.
20:33
Speaker 1: The very first time I went to the Oval office.
20:37
Speaker 1: Chad was was with Bush uh in this second term
20:40
Speaker 1: after I worked on the campaign in four and when
20:43
Speaker 1: I walked in that Oval office, it was a pinch
20:46
Speaker 1: you moment. I don't care how many times you've seen
20:48
Speaker 1: it on TV. It is amazing. And I had the
20:51
Speaker 1: opportunity to go in that over office quite a few
20:54
Speaker 1: times in his administration, and then I got to go
20:57
Speaker 1: in Uh in the in the in the Trump administration
21:00
Speaker 1: is first term in office when he's forty five. Just
21:04
Speaker 1: how explain that your feelings just getting to walk in
21:08
Speaker 1: there and experience.
21:10
Speaker 2: That, you know, it's one of those moments where obviously
21:13
Speaker 2: the president had come into the Roosevelt Room and addressed
21:16
Speaker 2: this for about five minutes, and then he says, I
21:18
Speaker 2: want you to bring him into the Oval. And you
21:20
Speaker 2: go in there, and it's surreal that if you're anything
21:24
Speaker 2: like me, and you're you're a history buff or an
21:27
Speaker 2: architecture buff, and you've seen this iconic room on TV
21:32
Speaker 2: or movies or depicted, it's surreal you're taking it all
21:37
Speaker 2: in from a new perspective. It's not a camera angle.
21:40
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in three D. You're there, and so
21:42
Speaker 2: it's a special moment and of course, the President's being
21:44
Speaker 2: his typical, jovial, candid, comedic self. And it was a
21:48
Speaker 2: great time. He spent you know, half an hour with us,
21:51
Speaker 2: told us some stories. It was fantastic, and you know,
21:55
Speaker 2: you go in there, and that's one of the reasons
21:56
Speaker 2: why there's a lot of controversy right now. You know,
22:01
Speaker 2: we tweet a lot, we post a lot on x
22:03
Speaker 2: we share a lot on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, truth, all
22:06
Speaker 2: these places we're sharing. I know that people think we
22:08
Speaker 2: just have this team of people doing it. And when
22:12
Speaker 2: DC Draino had posted his picture with the notebook, I
22:15
Speaker 2: copied his post and I put it in my notes
22:18
Speaker 2: and I was going to edit it and then attribute
22:20
Speaker 2: part of it back as quote, and I copy and
22:23
Speaker 2: pasted the wrong thing and posted it to Facebook. And
22:25
Speaker 2: so a lot of people blew up, saying you this
22:27
Speaker 2: is this is messaging from the White House. And I'm like,
22:29
Speaker 2: I promise you were not that sophisticated when you get
22:33
Speaker 2: rushed out of the Oval office after me.
22:36
Speaker 1: By the way, not knowing and not knowing you're going
22:38
Speaker 1: to go there. And if he did what he did
22:40
Speaker 1: when I was there, it's like you go to the
22:42
Speaker 1: gift shop. He loves you to come in, and he
22:45
Speaker 1: loves you to leave with a bunch of stuff like you.
22:48
Speaker 2: Laugh, challenge coins and pins and hats and golf towels.
22:53
Speaker 2: I mean, it's insane. Do you want to die at
22:55
Speaker 2: coke and so you come out after breathing that rarefied air,
22:59
Speaker 2: You're not really in the ultimate presence of mind. Now,
23:02
Speaker 2: I will say this man a lot of people. You know,
23:04
Speaker 2: I made a post on x about that, saying, listen,
23:06
Speaker 2: my fault. I copied and pasted Draino. You know, he's
23:09
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. I copied and pasted him. I
23:11
Speaker 2: pasted the wrong thing back. I didn't do the edited version,
23:14
Speaker 2: and so I went back and edited it on Facebook
23:16
Speaker 2: and attributed it as a quote to him. But you know,
23:19
Speaker 2: the internets forever and people take screenshots, and you know, like,
23:22
Speaker 2: I have nothing to hide here. I've never received a
23:24
Speaker 2: penny from the White House. Neither has anybody else. I mean,
23:27
Speaker 2: coming up here, I'll just be totally transparent coming up here,
23:30
Speaker 2: staying where I'm staying, you know, eating food, traveling everything.
23:33
Speaker 2: It probably cost me about thirty five hundred to four
23:35
Speaker 2: thousand dollars just to be here, for this two or
23:37
Speaker 2: three day stint. And so this idea that we're like
23:40
Speaker 2: Harry Sissen or Chris Mallory is a joke. Simply just
23:44
Speaker 2: simply not the case. So it is.
23:48
Speaker 1: It is truly shocking when you see those that attack,
23:53
Speaker 1: because you've got this incredible honor to be there and yeah,
23:58
Speaker 1: and to see this and look, this wasn't just a
24:01
Speaker 1: meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that
24:04
Speaker 1: you guys talked about as well. And I want you
24:06
Speaker 1: to understand that this was not just one thing only, No.
24:10
Speaker 2: And we can walk you through it. I mean, from
24:12
Speaker 2: Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy talking
24:16
Speaker 2: about what he plans to do with HHS, you know,
24:19
Speaker 2: Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of
24:22
Speaker 2: the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a
24:24
Speaker 2: good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able
24:27
Speaker 2: to talk about I mean, I literally all these people
24:30
Speaker 2: posting on social media. I literally talked to both the
24:34
Speaker 2: Vice President and the President about them holding not just
24:38
Speaker 2: the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media
24:42
Speaker 2: owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords, and
24:46
Speaker 2: they both assured us and gave us a plan of
24:48
Speaker 2: action whereby they're going to take care of that. So
24:51
Speaker 2: all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities
24:53
Speaker 2: were completely different. This just got dropped in our lap.
24:57
Speaker 2: There was some great information that was shared. There was
24:59
Speaker 2: some and if you've ever been in there this administration,
25:02
Speaker 2: and I've been around cabinet members, I've been around the President,
25:05
Speaker 2: I've been around you know, a lot of important people.
25:07
Speaker 2: There was a sense of camaraderie, almost backslapping in the
25:11
Speaker 2: Oval Office today as all of them were there. And
25:14
Speaker 2: it makes me excited about not just the messaging, but
25:17
Speaker 2: it makes me excited that I feel like this this
25:20
Speaker 2: administration is going to do what it says. I totally
25:23
Speaker 2: got the vibe from Pambondi and Director Patel that they
25:28
Speaker 2: fully intend to release everything they get their hands on.
25:32
Speaker 2: You know, people are so jaded and cynical at this point,
25:34
Speaker 2: and I completely understand that nobody wants that information more
25:39
Speaker 2: than me. And the reason is not for you know,
25:42
Speaker 2: clicks and likes or to get a scoop on something.
25:46
Speaker 2: We're genuinely excited about justice. There are there are women
25:50
Speaker 2: and families out there that deserve closure. In no means
25:55
Speaker 2: did we mean to post anything that was going to
25:58
Speaker 2: bring them more harm. We fully ex infected there to
26:00
Speaker 2: be more in that notebook, but again to look at it,
26:04
Speaker 2: what we realized is once again the reason we're jaded
26:08
Speaker 2: is this FBI has been lying to us.
26:12
Speaker 1: Let's go to that headline because I think this is
26:14
Speaker 1: a really important point. The FBI is what we've been
26:17
Speaker 1: told with how thousands of pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents,
26:21
Speaker 1: Pambonni says, and she's demanding that they be turned over.
26:24
Speaker 1: This is the deep state, and this is I'm assuming
26:28
Speaker 1: what you guys got a briefing on. I want you
26:30
Speaker 1: to expand on this. But they'd said she's demanding that
26:33
Speaker 1: they be turned over by Friday morning. I mean, this
26:35
Speaker 1: is the attorney general. You've got Cashpttel, who was there
26:39
Speaker 1: today and his own employees in essence, are not serving
26:43
Speaker 1: the president. They're not serving the FBI director, they're not
26:46
Speaker 1: serving the attorney general. They're going rogue and BONDI disclosed
26:49
Speaker 1: this letter the FBI director Casptel, which has now been
26:52
Speaker 1: put out there that this was a whistle blower, a
26:55
Speaker 1: tipster that said that all but quote approximately two hundred
26:58
Speaker 1: pages of documents were They're still being kept secret at
27:01
Speaker 1: the FBI office in New York, despite her repeated request
27:04
Speaker 1: for the full Epstein files. That is a takeaway from
27:08
Speaker 1: y'all's meeting today.
27:09
Speaker 2: Anyone, anyone in our shoes, would be excited. Anyone sitting
27:12
Speaker 2: in those seats today would be excited. They would have
27:14
Speaker 2: responded the same way. They would have been hopeful. They
27:17
Speaker 2: would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that,
27:21
Speaker 2: and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today
27:25
Speaker 2: and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said,
27:29
Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm
27:31
Speaker 2: reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of
27:33
Speaker 2: people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information,
27:36
Speaker 2: Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some
27:38
Speaker 2: stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking
27:42
Speaker 2: at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
27:46
Speaker 2: So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also,
27:50
Speaker 2: you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and
27:53
Speaker 2: Fox News and all these others is when we went out,
27:56
Speaker 2: obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming
27:59
Speaker 2: in to date, the presspool was there in full force.
28:01
Speaker 2: They were out back when we walked out. You know,
28:05
Speaker 2: unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a
28:08
Speaker 2: giant pile of cameras and uh reporters and they're taking
28:13
Speaker 2: the pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know, it's
28:16
Speaker 2: a it's it is in the messaging of the Trump
28:20
Speaker 2: administration reminding the mainstream media that they're not kings and
28:25
Speaker 2: they're not gods.
28:26
Speaker 1: But by the way, you better frame the picture of
28:29
Speaker 1: you with that binder walking out. I saw it before
28:31
Speaker 1: I even called you, and I just said I was
28:33
Speaker 1: proud of you. Congratulations. Like I hope you frame it
28:35
Speaker 1: and put it over the mantel, my friend. If you don't,
28:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it for you for Christmas and and
28:40
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna charge you for it, because I'm gonna
28:42
Speaker 1: you should do it on your own.
28:45
Speaker 2: There's you know, we go out there and obviously we
28:48
Speaker 2: we all have our disdain for the mainstream media. We
28:51
Speaker 2: all have that that feeling of ire towards them. Uh
28:55
Speaker 2: and you know, obviously there's a little bit on the
28:58
Speaker 2: part of some some folks to want to say, look,
29:01
Speaker 2: we're receiving information that you're not receiving. You know what
29:04
Speaker 2: if that, if that makes you mad, then I'm sorry,
29:07
Speaker 2: I can't help you. Uh. This is a populous president.
29:10
Speaker 2: He is a guy who is he He's not going
29:13
Speaker 2: to play the party games. He doesn't care whose feelings
29:15
Speaker 2: he hurts. We're all that way if you're going to
29:18
Speaker 2: be if you're gonna put up with all the crap
29:19
Speaker 2: we've put up with for over the last eight years,
29:22
Speaker 2: with the persecution, the name calling, and the and the
29:25
Speaker 2: you know, gosh, the demonetization and the deep latforming. Yeah,
29:29
Speaker 2: we we don't mind a little middle finger to the
29:31
Speaker 2: mainstream media.
29:32
Speaker 1: As we should well, and they don't report this news
29:36
Speaker 1: and they lie. And so that goes back to my
29:38
Speaker 1: my my final question for you, which is those that
29:42
Speaker 1: are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that it was
29:45
Speaker 1: a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new. The point
29:49
Speaker 1: I think that I want to make sure this audience
29:52
Speaker 1: understands is that this is the beginning of what we
29:57
Speaker 1: of of this, not the end. Is is that a
30:00
Speaker 1: fair way of putting it.
30:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the sentiment that I got from both General
30:05
Speaker 2: Bondi and UH Secretary or sorry, Director Patel was they
30:11
Speaker 2: literally and they were amicable with one another. I mean,
30:13
Speaker 2: you read that note, you read that letter that Pam
30:17
Speaker 2: Bondi wrote to Cash Pattel, and you would think, oh,
30:19
Speaker 2: somebody's in trouble here, there's this is sort of a rebuke,
30:22
Speaker 2: but it wasn't. And she wanted to make sure that
30:24
Speaker 2: everybody knew that was clear. They are working in conjunction
30:27
Speaker 2: with one another in this new Department of Justice to
30:29
Speaker 2: make sure is that this information comes out. Uh. And
30:33
Speaker 2: and I believe them. I believe them, you know, Ben,
30:36
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't suffer fools. And man,
30:39
Speaker 2: I can see through people. I'm pretty intuitive. But this
30:42
Speaker 2: this administration what I saw today, the sense, the atmosphere,
30:46
Speaker 2: just as I said earlier, just the backslapping camaraderie of
30:50
Speaker 2: a team working together. Uh. To use Carolyn Levette's phrase,
30:55
Speaker 2: this you can't keep up. It's a whirlwind. This administration
30:58
Speaker 2: is working around the clock. I truly believe them.
31:02
Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree. As I was sitting last
31:06
Speaker 1: week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Cinder Cruz.
31:11
Speaker 1: We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when
31:15
Speaker 1: he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration
31:19
Speaker 1: just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's
31:22
Speaker 1: us against the world, and we are going to do
31:25
Speaker 1: our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going
31:27
Speaker 1: to work together. There is none of this. This is
31:30
Speaker 1: my turf, and you stay off at and it sounds
31:32
Speaker 1: like from the way that you met with so many
31:33
Speaker 1: cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to
31:36
Speaker 1: you as well.
31:38
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a
31:41
Speaker 2: cowboy hat and somehow got popular posting truck videos years ago.
31:47
Speaker 2: The fact that I was sitting in the Oval office
31:48
Speaker 2: today or sitting down with the Vice president and they're
31:52
Speaker 2: willing to talk to me and share with me their priorities,
31:57
Speaker 2: that should tell you I'm nobody. I was the dumbest
31:59
Speaker 2: guy in the room. Tell you how to sixteen people
32:01
Speaker 2: in that room, I was the dumbest guy in the room. Then,
32:04
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there were some intelligent folks in there.
32:07
Speaker 2: But the fact that they would extend an invitation graciously
32:10
Speaker 2: to me and give me the hospitality to come in there,
32:13
Speaker 2: it's surreal.
32:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't fly over country. My friend, we ain't
32:18
Speaker 1: fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and
32:21
Speaker 1: that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you
32:22
Speaker 1: and I are friends. You're a real person with a
32:25
Speaker 1: real story to tell, with a real audience of the
32:27
Speaker 1: hard working men and women that just want to be
32:30
Speaker 1: left alone by their government and they want to have
32:32
Speaker 1: a great life for their kids and their grandkids. And
32:34
Speaker 1: going around the media and talking directly to you and others.
32:37
Speaker 1: I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations, I'm
32:40
Speaker 1: proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope it's
32:42
Speaker 1: a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad that
32:46
Speaker 1: they're looking to talk to people like you in these
32:49
Speaker 1: moments who can get it out to everybody else. I'll
32:51
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33:03
Speaker 1: you taking the time to come on here and talk
33:05
Speaker 1: and tell people what it was really like today. We
33:07
Speaker 1: try to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines,
33:11
Speaker 1: but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm
33:13
Speaker 1: so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
33:16
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33:18
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