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July 4th weekend · Boxing B-Sides

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Holy shit, boys. We are back to talk the fights.
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Joined by the one and only Saul and Josh. Welcome
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back. Homies. That's good. How goes it? We're
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back. Homies at large. Homies at large. Did you
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ever get, did you collect those little figurines
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that were called homies? Oh, you know what? Yeah,
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I remember a time where they come in the barrels
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or something. Yeah, like they would come with
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candy or some shit. Oh yeah, I did not, but I
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think they were before my time. I've seen clips
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of those. I recognize them, but they were before
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my time. Yeah, I probably showed my unk status
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by mentioning those. But it's all good. Let's
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get something out of the way really quick. UFC
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Freedom 250 took place on June 14th. That is
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in today's date zone. It was about what you would
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expect. It was a lot of matches that were made
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to produce stoppages. So, Diego Lopez got a good
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one. Stoppage in two. Bo Nickel, who's not a
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striker, got a TKO in the first. Josh Hokit showed
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his ass. He won the fight, but he... Very uncool
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shit. He won a lawsuit, too. Post -fight interview.
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Very lame. Michelle Obama. I'm not going to repeat
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the whole thing, but you talk about Michelle
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Obama. I'm just... I don't know what the hell
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these people's obsession over Michelle Obama
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is. They want to make... From what I've noticed
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with these types, Kind of on a tangent. Like,
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they want to make black women seem masculine,
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you know? To make them seem lesser, you know?
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At least that's what I see. You know, it's like
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a racist dog whistle. Yeah, it is. It's generally
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the prerogative of the very chud -aligned UFC.
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Yeah. Bunch of fucking pussies. They either make
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them into, like, mammies. Or butch women. Yeah.
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I mean, Michelle Obama is what they wish they
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could fucking have. Brilliant, educated, eloquent,
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graceful, fucking way more patience than I would
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ever show. And, yeah. Y 'all wish. You just described
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Virgil Ortiz. But wrapping it up with this Freedom
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250 shit, Cyril Ghosn beats Alex Pareda to claim
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the interim heavyweight title, and Justin Gaethje
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rallies back to beat Ilya Tepuria to claim the
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lightweight title. Holy shit. I'm not glad. I
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felt pretty American after that. Man, Tepuria
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fucking sucks, dude. What is this? I used to
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claim he would... Back before Boots left 147,
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that Teporia could hang with anyone but Boots
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at 147. Because it was a really weak division,
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like Barrios. Oh, it was bad. Yeah. So, maybe
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not so much anymore. That was pretty fucking
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awesome, dude. I'm not gonna lie. The UFC's cooked
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now, so thank you very much, Dana White, for
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cooking your own sport. Go fuck yourself. You
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know, one can say it's always been cooked, but...
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Well, actually, I take that back, because you
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know what? He probably did that on purpose to
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focus on boxing. What do you mean? His real love
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was power slap, but it didn't work out. His real
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love is slapping his wife. Hence, power slap.
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His power slap. Slapping his wife with a power
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slap. We could cut that out. That's for the Patreon.
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But yeah, if you want to get more UFC chatter,
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we talk over on Ultimate F and Casuals. We talk
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through the whole card in very great detail.
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should too. Now. Oleksandr Usyk has vacated his
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titles. He said he has one fight left before
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he retires. He's calling it his last dance. And
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the possible opponents are Deontay Wilder or
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Jon Jones. Yeah, it's about to be Wilder. It's
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about to be Wilder. That being said, even Wilder
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in his diminished state is still better than
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the 97 jazz that the Bulls faced during the actual
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real -life last dance. So, respect there. Over
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my head with that one. The last dance is about
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the last championship the Bulls Oh, the Jordan
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Bulls? The Jordan Bulls. But they played like
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a really shitty Carl Malone jazz team. I thought
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Carl Malone was good. Playoff dropper and, you
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know, is off the court. Ah. Intriguing. Yeah.
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The point is, that jazz team is not great. And
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I hold Deontay Wilder in higher regard. Also...
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I think also Usyk, honestly, he's in that late
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-stage Lennox Lewis part of his career. Remember,
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he dropped it to fight Michael Grant. And Brodman
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wasn't even supposed to be a mandatory or anything
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of any kind. He's in that phase where he just
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fights who he wants. Wilder is better than Michael
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Grant. I don't know if that's a... controversial
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take? I don't think so. Like, I just... Not at
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all. No, Michael Grant was rough. Michael Grant
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was rough. But, you know, people are up in arms
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for no reason. Because they fall for the shiny
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new toy instead of, you know, kind of... being
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a little more content with what you have now.
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Is that expecting Usyk to take his banditories?
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Specifically Kabayel? I think Kabayel is the
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one that I'm like, okay, if everyone was expecting
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like Itama, like the real future of the division,
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because you have to remember Kabayel isn't like
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a spring chicken in this division. He's been
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around for a while. Um, I'd be a little more
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amenable, but like, it's, it's just, I feel,
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I feel like we're, I feel like the, the pressure
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in quotation marks on Usyk to face this mandatory
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is a little, a little overblown. Well, it's not
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a mandatory anymore because now he's champion.
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No, no, he dropped the belt. Yeah. And Gabriel's
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the champ. People, yeah. This is if Dillian White
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became champ. This is the... Honestly, really
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funny turn of events. Who's in the WBC rankings
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for... Let's have a look. I'll take a peek, because
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I'm like, who's in the rankings to... So we can
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really see... Who Caballel will fight next? Number
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one, Tyson Fury, Lawrence Okoli, Itama Hergovich.
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It's going to be Itama. Okay, so I'm assuming
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Itama Hergovich, and then they call the mandatory
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from that fight. I don't think Itama's ever going
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to fight Usyk, dude. No. Well, no, it's Caballel.
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It's Caballel now. Oh, Caballel. He got elevated.
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So I was going to say, like, Itama fighting Caballel.
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Honestly, probably a little easier than Frank
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Sanchez in regards to style matchup. Well, that's
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also not happening either because, I mean, most
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I tell them is ranked higher than other organizations,
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not the WBC. Yeah, but he's Turkey's favorite.
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He's top five in every one, isn't he? He's top
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five in every single one. So he has his choice
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of, like, especially because these current belt
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holders, like, it's going to be Gassi over Yoko,
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which is hilarious. it's going to be Caballel,
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which is hilarious, and it's Frank Sanchez, which
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is hilarious. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that
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what's the easiest route for him to go in and
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get a belt? That's what Queensborough is going
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to do. They're not going to put him with the
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Bulls yet. And they got Danny Dubois. Remember,
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you got Daniel Dubois. Yeah, so it's definitely
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Caballel who's the easiest. You think Caballel
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is easier than Frank Sanchez? Yeah, stylistically,
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yeah. I don't know if I agree with that. I highly
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disagree with that. I'm saying stylistically
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just because, like, okay, with Sanchez, maybe
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Atamba has problems with range. Because Herkovich
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also does not use range well. He uses leverage
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well. Maybe, you know, that's unproven. But we
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saw with basically his entire career has been
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guys who will step to him. And at least it's
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an easier. It's easier to do the mental calculus
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on Itama being good enough to take out a guy
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constantly stepping to him with leaky defense
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than, who knows, maybe he has some problem boxing
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a range. Nah, man, I'm telling you. I genuinely
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think that Frank Sanchez is probably the easier
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fight. I know it doesn't seem like it. If Yoko
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wins... That's a different story. It's Yoka.
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Yeah, it's Yoka. I was going to say, Gassiev,
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for all his flaws, for being fat and terrible,
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he's got more IQ than the other guys. I mean,
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who knows? The thing is, if they really want
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to fuck up Italo's career, they could go put
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him with Danny Dubois. Or fucking Fabio Wardley.
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Depends on the belief. Like, I think... Depends
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on how heavy of a hand Turkey's taking with the
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matchmaking. If he's really playing action figures,
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you do Kabe El Dubois. He's in poor health, though.
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I don't know if we talked about that, but he's
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in ailing health. Yes. I think we did last time,
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but... That's why I'm like, it depends on how
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active of a hand he has. If he's taking a step
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back because of his health issues, then we see
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more... Let's wait and see matchmaking. I would
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say he's probably more... Since he's a Queensborough
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fighter, I'm seeing how Queensborough and the
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man, Turkey Al -Sheikh, haven't been seeing eye
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to eye. I feel like Queensborough is not really
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going to want to feel easy letting a guy out
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like that, you know? They're going to build him
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up like how they should. They're going to have
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him fight an easy but formidable fighter. And
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then from there, they'll put him with, you know,
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more tough competition. Also, I feel like they
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don't want to set him up with one of the guys
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in the beginning because, I mean, they got Daniel
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Dubois, one of their guys, as champion. They
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got Caballel, one of the guys as champion. I
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mean, wouldn't it be better to spread out your
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eggs? Have him go for the IBF. Have him go for
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the IBF, exactly, yeah. The stable. Yeah, exactly.
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Then they'll own the division. You go for Sanchez
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then. Except for Tony Yoka in the City of Light.
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The lone pillar. Yoka's so weak, though. That's
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the thing. If Yoka wins that fight, I cannot
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understate how... Especially because it's how
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much passes the eye test in a way that most heavyweights
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don't. I am only least confident in Dubois Sanchez
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because Sanchez can spoil. You're saying Sanchez
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can spoil? Dude, Campiel can spoil. He is the
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spoiler. I'm talking spoiler style -wise. Style
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-wise? I don't know, dude. Stylistically, Sanchez
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can be negative and spoil. But again, it depends
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on how much Sanchez can move. I mean, I know
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his last fight wasn't long, but in the fight,
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throughout the fight, he wasn't really moving
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like how he used to. To be fair, he didn't really
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need to with Torres. He didn't need to, but he
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didn't show off that he still had it like that.
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Again, he didn't need to, but he didn't show
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it. So it doesn't prove to me that he can move
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and box like how he used to. The one -hitter
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quitter. Because against Caballel, he had knee
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issues, which is why I was kind of betting against
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him with Richard Torres. Because we don't know.
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How bad they are. Right. With a round and a half,
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we can't really say whether or not he's really
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over it. That's true. Exactly. And also, again,
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Caballero is a hard, I mean, he's a risky fighter.
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Seemingly, you know, might not be as much pay.
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You know? I don't know. All of them except for
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Dubois are around a similar pay. That's what
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I'm saying. Why go for someone that's harder
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for, you know? not a guaranteed bigger payout.
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Not sure. Honestly, again, Turkey's ailing health
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could also be in the other direction where he
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might want to see his action figures now. So
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you might get Caballel, Itama, pretty soon. But
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is it like that? Because I know he had cancer,
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right? He has a tumor in his brain. He's losing
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his, like, his cognitive functions. His memories
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were the first things going. Maybe that's why
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he hasn't been around as much. Riyadh season
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hasn't been as prevalent. But he might also,
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that's what I'm saying, but he might want to
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see, like, considering he's been big on Atama
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and more recently pretty big on Caballel, that
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might be, you know, you want to see this now.
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You don't want to see it marinate, as it probably
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should. I mean, Caballos hasn't really fought...
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Yeah, I mean, Caballos hasn't fought, you know,
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a good, decent opponent since Zhang. And before
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that, I mean, Zhang is whatever. Before that,
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it was what? Mahmoudov? There was Frank Stanton
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before Zhang. There's Robin Chisora, too, in
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Monaco. Well, then you got, you know... I think
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that if Itamo were to fight Cabello at the same
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time, Cabello is proven to be a spoiler, but
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it's also against guys who are, you know, not
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as good. I'm saying that in hindsight, so, you
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know. I'm just, like, genuinely, I think Itamo's
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good enough to make the jump any time because...
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heavyweight has always been top -heavy. Honestly.
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Like, heavyweight is always kind of top -heavy
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in that, like, you're never going to be able
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to gradually ascend like you can in other weight
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classes. You just kind of have to take a shot
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at the top guy. No, I feel like in this current
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generation, you're able to because there's enough
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older gentlemen that you can do that with. Again,
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it also depends on how you perceive Caballel.
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I do not perceive Caballel as all that. This
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is very much like another Dillian White 300 -whatever
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-days -is -mandatory situation. I see Caballel
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as a good fighter, but I need to see him in more
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competitive fights. Yeah, but if that happened,
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you'd see the Pavetkin thing happen. I guess
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you're right. Not exactly an uppercut, but who
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was the guy who fought last time in Germany who
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was just touching him up, but smaller heavyweight
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can't really finish the job. He was fighting
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a guy who was really putting it on him. Very
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much. Yeah. Polish guy. Damien Nipa or whatever.
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You know, big heavyweight, but not, like, a pretty
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empty undefeated record. And it was very, like,
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almost Oscar, white Oscar Rivas -like, where
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you go, like, okay, so here's an opponent you
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really should have dominated that you just, you
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found, you mostly dominated, you looked ways,
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you showed the fact that you clearly have not
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progressed. You've shown... This clear weakness.
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Like, I don't know. I am not big on Caballel
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because this is like... We've seen this exact
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type of heavyweight before. He is not that special.
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I think the attention span of... You know what?
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I think he's not... I agree with you. We've seen
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him before. But in this current crop of heavyweights,
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it's someone that's not really like everybody
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else. He's literally more unique with the current
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crop. Like, it's just so, like, okay, he's either
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fought, like, trash or, like, clearly, like,
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old guys who are ready to, who are already on
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their way out, basically, without, like, wasted
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potential guys, if that makes sense. I get what
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you're saying. Like, Sang and Frank Sanchez were
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never going to reach the top. Like, the tippy
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top of the division. Barring Sanchez is, like,
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fighting Richard Torres. And then, like, you
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know, barring any particular out -of -the -ordinary
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movement, these were guys who were never going
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to reach it on their own. That were, like, older
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guys. older guys isn't frank sanchez only like
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32 frank sanchez looks older than my father and
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my father is in his 50s and zhang is so old he's
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having repeated kidney failure but also he doesn't
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drink water so he doesn't even have to cut weight
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why are you dehydrating yourself like i'm just
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saying like these guys are The guys he fought
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are very particularly, like, these are old guys
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who are very weak to, like, body pressure. Especially
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Zhang. Like, we saw the, oh, he knocked out Zhang
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with a body shot. And I'm like, Jerry Forrest
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had Zhang in the ER because the guy just doesn't
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drink water for whatever reason. Like, it's very
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smoke and mirrors. Like, Makhmudov looked more
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hurt against Dave Allen than he did against Caballel.
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Dave Allen is just fat and terrible and couldn't
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really follow up on it. Leo, how are you feeling?
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Um... Let's see. The picture as it stands now...
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Kabayel's a full champion. Daniel Dubois is a
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full champion. Now Murat Gassiev is also a full
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champion. Yeah, he has a fight coming up that
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we'll talk about next time. But that leaves the
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IBF. And it makes me, I really think that Frank
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Warren is going to push Itauma up that road to
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get more titles in his stable. So it'll be Frank
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Sanchez against... Frank Sanchez against Atama,
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maybe? Yeah. But yeah, that's what I think is
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going to happen. I think they're going to move
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Atama up the IBF route just to increase the hardware.
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But... When it comes to them unifying with each
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other... Who do you guys think stands on top
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of those three if they become Titleists? Itama
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or... Yeah. That's kind of hard because you know
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what? It just depends on who Itama fights. Because
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if they rush him, I genuinely feel like that...
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If they rush him and he gets caught, it could
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affect him for the rest of his career. Because
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the guys he's fighting are big. Yeah, but he's
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also big. If he showed vulnerability during the
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eye test, I'd be like, okay. We'll get into boots
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having something people claim is a bit of a weakness.
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that you that you saw from the very start when
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he was on showbox but like you don't see that
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and i've also been pointing out too by the way
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i forgot i'm not gonna hate on him later but
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you know he's a very like he's a very very very
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skilled heavyweight it's just there's no way
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around it and it's not like you know it's not
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uh oh he hasn't fought anyone that can like chin
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check him like Jermaine Franklin is a good guy
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for seeing if your chin sucks and if you're shitting
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your pants at contact. Well, his chin was never
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even touched. Yeah, and Anthony Joshua's was.
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And he was shitting his pants the whole time
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with Jermaine Franklin. White also... We just
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gotta wait and see. There's a level of fragility
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that you see in most heavyweights that, you know,
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You haven't seen yet in Itama. We just got Wayne
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C. Yeah, we'll have to see how this situation
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plays out. But I don't think... The thing is
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that there's a difference between... If you get
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knocked out at heavyweight, it happens. It's
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genuinely... That's the appeal of the division.
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That being said, if there is a sustained beating
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that starts occurring, then if his corner doesn't
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pull him out, that's when we see... That's when
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we should have more of a concern. And who's in
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his corner? Who's in his corner? Enlighten me
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who's in his corner. Ben Davison. Yeah. I wonder
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who. Oh, no. Back to that theory I had that Ben
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Davison is going to be... Horrible for his career
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in the future, but, you know, I digress. I think
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this is a Virgil Hunter scenario. How so? Mediocre
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to terrible trainer who just had generational,
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like, talent to walk through your doors. Like,
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Virgil Hunter is a horrible trainer. But you
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know what? Andre Ward walked through his doors.
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So you mean Bozianis type situation, right? The
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product of Bozianis' sperm is different to just
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having a shitty boxing gym and someone walking
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through it. The difference. Bozianis has turned
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some ships around. That too. Virtual Hunter is
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just... He made Amir Khan worse. He made Abner
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Mares worse. Those are just the two that come
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to mind. Dude, Abner Mara's eye was falling out
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in training because of this guy. Again, those
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are just ones that come to mind. You are not
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a great boxing trainer. Prime talent that is
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so insurmountably great walks through your door.
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All you have to do is keep them in shape, pretty
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much, and teach them the bare basics. Like, the
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IQ disparity between Andre Ward and his trainer
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was crazy. And I think it's the same thing here.
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Especially at heavyweight. Because heavyweight
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is not good. On average. Like, you do not need
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as much as at heavyweight. So the fact that,
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like, we could train Moses Itama. Just gotta
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keep him on the one -twos on the pads. Like,
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to be undisputed. We just gotta keep him in shape.
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And keep his mind sharp. We don't even have to
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do anything. So I think that's the case here.
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Where they could. Anybody could train. Itama.
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And it wouldn't be an issue. Granted there are
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trainers that could make him better. But he's
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also so much better. That like it's not worth.
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Postulating about. About where he should go instead.
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Yeah, like, there's no, like, oh, he does this
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deficiency or his IQ sucks. Like, no, he very
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clearly does all the right things all the time.
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And he's also just better than most of the heavyweights.
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In spite of boxer size, Ben. So, like, he has
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a net zero in his corner, but it's very much
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a... I mean, while there's a case where he actually
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could have been way better with an actual trainer
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who didn't learn, who didn't teach him from YouTube
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videos. But similar concept, too, of you are
29:04
a bad trainer. The prime, prime material walks
29:08
through the doors. You don't have to do that
29:10
much to get him very far, especially as a heavyweight.
29:17
Especially with power like that. And I mean that
29:19
for both Wilder and for Yatama. Yeah. And like
29:23
power and athleticism like that, you really...
29:26
That heavyweight, you don't need that much. You
29:29
just... You have it. So I don't see it as a concern.
29:39
Especially again, Usyk is on his way out. The
29:42
only heavyweight who could have... In like a...
29:45
five year radius in either direction who could
29:50
have posed like a thinking challenge is absolutely
29:54
Usyk what makes me wonder because at some point
30:01
he's going to have Dubois in the opposite corner
30:05
and Don Charles does he seems to have a better
30:13
formula at work in his gym than Ben Davison.
30:19
Oh, absolutely. And I wonder when, like, when
30:22
are the intangibles going to start coming into
30:24
play? Honestly, if... I feel like, like, from
30:29
watching them, the eye test implies if you really
30:33
are high on Atama that he should be able to pick
30:36
DuPont out because we've seen the best examples
30:41
of, like... Charles getting Dubois to use his
30:45
jab and leverage, the best opponents this has
30:49
worked on have been Hergovich and Wardley, so
30:52
I feel like Hergovich will be the measure of
30:55
if you really can not have to dip into the intangibles
30:59
with an opponent of that speed. Because Dubois
31:07
isn't that explosive, but he's quite precise
31:09
because of how Don Charles handles him. Go on.
31:20
I'm saying he's quite lumbering. His jab is not
31:24
better than Itama's. His jab is better than Wardley
31:28
and Joshua's, who are guys who... It's extra
31:32
disappointing with Joshua, but also you have
31:37
to consider Davidson was training him for that
31:39
two -ball fight. And Joshua is someone who actually
31:43
needs a good coach. They tend to abandon their
31:48
jabs. That's the one thing I think Atama's been
31:53
really solid on, where even if his opponent is,
31:57
to put it bluntly, a can, he still stays on his
32:00
jab to set everything up. Well, let's keep it
32:09
rolling. We got a few more pieces of news. Vito
32:14
Melnicki signs with Matchroom. I know the world
32:18
has been waiting to hear about Melnicki. And
32:24
sign with Zufa, which is a win here. Do you think
32:30
that Zufa would be a good spot for a guy like
32:34
Melnicki? Depends. How much of Melnicki are you
32:39
willing to see? I mean, I don't watch a whole
32:43
lot of Zufa, so I don't know. Maybe then. I was
32:47
going to say, how much on the shelf do you want
32:49
him? He's not great, but he is at 160. With Adamas
32:56
moving up and Janabek out of the picture for
32:59
a little bit. And he is in the rankings for everything
33:04
except the WBA, I think. I believe you're correct.
33:10
He has an IBF trinket, a WBC trinket, and a WBO
33:14
trinket. So he's at least in the rankings. So,
33:18
you know, could be very interesting there. Let's
33:26
see. That being said, I'm not a... He's also
33:33
very mediocre, so we have to... He wins a...
33:37
If we have to see Lara put about the pasture
33:39
eventually, I'll kind of cry laughing. Because
33:43
there's a non -zero chance he picks up a belt
33:46
and then Lara unifies and kills him. And this
33:50
is like a mid -40s Lara. Lara is 43. And I have
33:58
100 % certainty that he puts Milnicki out to
34:01
pasture in six rounds. The state of middleweight
34:12
is great, guys. Glamour division. Glamour division.
34:19
We have people moving up because they can't find
34:21
anyone to fight. People busting for drugs. Cheating.
34:26
People busting for the entire pharmacy against
34:29
43 -year -olds. And for the aforementioned 43
34:32
-year -olds, Reigning King. A toughest division.
34:37
Literally aging out. Literally somehow outlasted
34:41
everyone. Marlon Tapalas is moving up to 126.
34:52
Again, I know the world has been waiting. He
34:56
beat MJ, so that was fun. Ended up getting sparked
35:01
by Inouye, as we all knew he would. Oh, yeah.
35:08
And now here he is, moving up in weight. Just
35:13
given the champs at 126, I don't see this move
35:17
going really well for Marlon. No, I think it's
35:21
just, you know, you're older, the weight cuts
35:24
are harder. You still feel like you have some
35:28
juice left. Give it a go, see what happens. Give
35:35
it a go. Yeah, the phrase give it a go has been
35:42
tainted, but that's... Josh Kelly will be defending
35:51
his title against Kevin Ajiarko. This will be
35:57
in a few weeks on the AJ Pranga undercard. Yeah,
36:03
they made this guy up. Ajiarko? They made this
36:10
guy up. This is an AI -generated boxer. I saw
36:14
him fight Ishmael Davis. That's how I know how
36:17
to pronounce his name. I'm recognizing the guys
36:21
he fought, but for some reason I have memory
36:24
of his existence. I remember watching the Troy
36:28
Williamson fight. That was Conlon getting killed
36:34
by Jordan Gill. But I just, like, memory hold
36:40
his entire existence. So. You know, I guess Josh
36:49
Kelly does deserve a soft, soft touch. Considering
36:53
he just beat Bakram Mordezaliev. I'm not mad
37:02
at it, as I probably should be. But. You know,
37:08
it'd be even funnier if a Yarko wins. Because
37:14
then we can see another belt holder, a 154, before
37:19
a certain Californian. A certain Californian
37:25
who... Isn't he from San Antonio? A certain Texan.
37:32
Honestly, it's... Here's a Wikipedia page. Never
37:36
mind, I just saw. He was supposed to fight Brandon
37:38
Adams. Oh, that's the one. When Brandon Adams
37:41
collapsed in his hotel room. He was supposed
37:45
to fight Brandon Adams. Okay. Okay, it's coming
37:54
back to me. Why am I with Brandon Adams? No,
37:59
my God, I can't fucking speak. Why am I with
38:00
Brandon Adams again? Brandon Adams collapsed
38:01
in his hotel room after the weigh -in. Really?
38:05
So the fight got cancelled. That's fucked up.
38:12
I don't remember that. No, it's coming back to
38:16
me. It's coming back to me. Well, that's all
38:23
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38:25
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38:32
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38:34
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38:37
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Boy, oh boy. Let's start with Sunday, June 14th.
42:13
Salida Promotions. In Grand Rapids, Michigan.
42:18
Just a few. Some selects that I wanted to point
42:21
out. Bryant Jennings gets a UD. So Unk still
42:26
got it. Represent for us, Bryant. Unk still got
42:33
it. Unk still got it. Troy Isley makes his Salida
42:38
debut. Gets a stoppage in five. Over Leonardo
42:43
DiStefano. I will be writing him a strongly worded
42:47
letter to change his name for being a fucking
42:50
loser. Joshua Pagan, UD over Rodolfo Bustamante.
42:58
And Jonathan Gonzalez drops the ball, gets beat
43:03
by Abraham Perez. Moving to MF Pro at Thunder
43:10
Studios. Just a few selects. Ernesto Mercado,
43:16
KO2 over Juan Carlos Burgos. That was a nice
43:20
fight. Ernesto is really building himself up
43:24
here. I appreciate seeing him not go to Zufa.
43:30
I think he was a 360 promotions guy. Our co -main,
43:39
Devin Cushing. Gets a UD over John. Is it Jahan?
43:44
It's a J apostrophe H -O -N. Jahan, yeah, it
43:48
looks like that. I'm going with Jahan Ingram.
43:53
And Ashton Silva, UD over Jojo Diaz. Jesus Christ,
44:04
this was a painful watch. It was a tough one.
44:07
This is a tough one to watch. Not because of
44:10
JoJo's lack of trying or effort or being terrible
44:15
or being a pedophile. Alleged pedophile. No,
44:21
actual pedophile. I think it was adjudicated.
44:24
Yeah, he was ordered to pay damages to that teenager,
44:27
so yes, pedophile. Yeah, what's wrong with Sylvie?
44:34
I don't know, man. What's wrong with him? All
44:38
of the ingredients were there for Sylvie to produce
44:44
something, and he cruised for no reason. He didn't
44:50
even cruise. He was actually getting pushed back
44:52
and touched up. In the later rounds, he was getting
44:54
his shit pushed in. Gave you some difficulty.
44:58
He did. This guy's in late -stage Regis program
45:02
level. And they were rocking each other in that
45:06
Regis Prograde fight. At least they were going
45:10
like band for band. This was just Sylvie getting
45:13
pushed in for a couple rounds. Not great. What
45:22
do you guys think Sylvie does next? I'm not even
45:26
sure what you should do. It's gotta be some other...
45:30
Might be another MF Pro guy. Jesus. Send him
45:34
to the pro box, dude. Two, three years. Forget.
45:38
Yeah, pro box. Forget if you have hope in him.
45:42
If you don't have hope with him, ship him to
45:43
Zufa. Ryo needs guys. True dat. Ryo needs to
45:49
be fed, so send him to Zufa. Because I don't
45:54
care that he's 22. This is a level of apathetic
45:59
mediocrity that you can't fix. You know? I would
46:06
say that's a really good fork in the road. If
46:09
you believe in him, you match him tough like
46:13
Probox. If you don't believe in him, then send
46:16
him to Zufa to get fucking eaten alive. Yeah,
46:20
Ryo can eat him up and you get actually a pretty
46:23
decent promoter's cut out of it. Because, you
46:26
know, Dana White only robs the fighters. Pretty
46:34
good. I saw some of the hype when he was on the
46:40
Jake Paul shows. Yeah, I saw him on one of those.
46:44
He had some potential and he had energy, right?
46:49
He had swag. There's a bit of a rough diamond
46:53
that you can polish out, that you can buff out,
46:55
right? But this was really apathetic against
47:00
JoJo, who like... JoJo looked pretty happy that
47:05
if you gave him an excuse to, he could have lied
47:07
down and left early. I'm going to go one step
47:13
further and say send the pro box and send Robert.
47:17
Robert does wonders with guys like Ash and Sylvie.
47:21
It depends on whether Sylvie wants it, though.
47:24
He looked so apathetic. That's the word I'll
47:28
keep using here. Like Jared Anderson, apathetic?
47:33
Well, Anderson doesn't want to box, period. He
47:36
looked... But the thing is that if you start
47:38
pushing Anderson's shit in, he reacts. Like with
47:41
Charles Martin, right? Didn't do so well with
47:46
Martin Bacoli. That was bad matchmaking. But
47:54
he was kind of listless at the start with Martin.
47:56
Martin really started giving it to him and he
47:58
reacted. Here it was like you just, you were
48:02
basically, like it's the equivalent of, you ever
48:04
watch that scene in The Sopranos when Vito's
48:06
actually doing a hard day's work? It can't be
48:10
only 11 .15. Yeah. It's fucking 11 .15. Fuck!
48:17
Yeah, like that's what it felt like. Like he
48:19
was struggling not to look up at the clock. There
48:26
can't be two minutes left in the round. Ah, shit.
48:29
There's two minutes left in the fucking round.
48:32
Like, and I don't even respect JoJo that much
48:35
in his prime, but I'm saying like a JoJo who...
48:38
Prime JoJo? Not even prime JoJo. JoJo six years
48:43
ago still gave a shit about boxing instead of
48:45
sexting teenagers. JoJo six years ago was...
48:49
He was never good. JoJo six years ago was a flyweight,
48:54
by the way. Or no, it was a featherweight. Yeah,
48:58
it was a feather. It was a featherweight, and
49:00
we were at 147 now, so... Mother of God. Just...
49:08
It's just tough. Not to watch JoJo like this.
49:13
I need JoJo against someone a little better who
49:15
can stop him repeatedly, but... Sylvie, like...
49:20
I feel like especially because a lot of the dialogue
49:22
in the lead up to him having more of a stage,
49:25
I guess, on this one, you know, headlining it
49:28
was, you know, Jake Paul abandoned me. MVP abandoned
49:34
me. I still have a lot more in me. I'm just 22.
49:38
I'm way more talented than why they dropped me.
49:41
And then he shows us this. Yeah, well, now we
49:46
know why we dropped you. Yeah, like it's a soft
49:48
admission that, yeah. They were fucking right
49:51
to drop you, dude. Maybe Bozy can help Ashton.
50:02
We just need a guy who... Honestly, who's his
50:06
trainer now, actually? No idea. I was gonna say,
50:13
he's probably... He's probably had his own trainer
50:16
forever. Nah, his dad. Yeah, Ivan. Yeah, so I'm
50:22
like, you need a... Okay, so you need a real
50:23
trainer, is what I'm hearing. That's Robert,
50:29
dude. I don't know if... Bozy's not going to
50:30
be the good... No, I don't think Bozy's a good
50:33
fit, but I think Robert might be a better fit.
50:35
You just need someone to put some more energy
50:38
into you. More time and attention, some more
50:42
TLC. Just, you need to have more energy when
50:46
you're fighting these... Crossroads fights. That's
50:49
Robert's middle name is TLC. Especially like
50:53
he needs a new environment. You know what? If
50:55
Abel Sanchez is still training, guys, I wouldn't
50:57
mind Sanchez as a shout. Get a new environment
51:00
because I'm reading that he's training out of
51:02
out of like, you know, Floyd's like gym in Las
51:05
Vegas, like the. The one that took over. Yeah,
51:10
basically he's training there and he's training.
51:14
with his dad at home, and I'm just like, you
51:16
need to... I feel like Big Bear, you know, it
51:19
won't do much for the skills, but he clearly
51:21
has the skills, he just doesn't have the intangibles.
51:25
Big Bear or Indio? That's what I'm saying, like,
51:28
Big Bear's a good change of scenery, able, you
51:31
know, make you work. I feel like Kronk is also
51:36
a good choice, because, you know, Sugar Hill's
51:39
no Manny, but he's still extremely serviceable.
51:46
He's done okay on his own. He's no Manny as you're
51:51
not the greatest trainer of all time. But I'm
51:59
saying there are guys who are not your dad who
52:01
can give you that change in scenery you would
52:05
probably like. Let's keep it rolling. We got
52:13
two more cards that are just very special. Queensbury
52:22
on the zone at St. Mary's Stadium in Southampton,
52:26
England. Shit, dog. I got main event, Ryan Garner,
52:35
UD over Michael Magnesi. interim WBC super featherweight
52:41
title was on the line. The WBC is becoming very
52:46
WBA like in the way that they throw out interims
52:52
and stuff. And then make the champion the favorite
53:00
fucking guy in the world and not have the interim
53:05
fight the champion. Never. Never consolidate.
53:11
This is why we stand with the IBF and nobody
53:13
fights for the IBF. One of the best guys. You
53:21
know who's really turned it around in recent
53:24
years since they got that new CEO or whatever?
53:29
The WBO? Yeah, they've been pretty good. They've
53:33
really turned it around and I really appreciate
53:36
it. Yeah, but you can still tell that they got
53:40
a good relationship with Bob. Oh, of course.
53:42
Whatever Bob orders. Yeah. Whatever Bob orders
53:51
is quite correct, but we'll talk about that next
53:55
time. I have a comment about that next time.
54:01
Let's move to Goldenboy on DAZN. At the Front
54:05
Wave Arena in Oceanside, California. Let me pick
54:10
out a few moving up the bill. Fucking Joshua
54:14
Edwards. Stoppage in two. Back to your usual
54:18
winning ways. The new top American heavyweight.
54:24
Joshua Edwards. I'm here for it, baby. The day
54:31
that there are no Joshua Edwards fans. is the
54:34
day that I'm dead. I think I made a joke about,
54:38
we were talking about it in the Discord chat
54:41
earlier, and I saw American Heavyweight and was
54:44
like, he doesn't have the makings of a varsity
54:46
athlete. I saw American Heavyweight, I'm out.
54:54
I like him, but like, oh man, it's best, my expectations
54:58
are low as a result of American Heavyweight.
55:01
And his last outing. Well, that too. My expectations
55:06
of an American heavyweight, I just completely
55:07
fucking plummeted. He's not welcome in our social
55:12
club no more. Social club? He's gotta go. He
55:19
was gay, Dan Raphael. Oh, that's so good. Alright,
55:33
moving up. Ruslan Abdullayev gets the stoppage
55:37
in five. Over eight. I did confuse him for Shagayev
55:44
for a second. I was like, he's still around?
55:47
Nah. Oh, no. Different guy. Yep. And main event.
55:55
Oscar Collazo stops Nieder Valdez in two. This
56:02
was contested at Flyweight. Interesting. They
56:07
had opponent one, Joey Kanhoye, lined up. He
56:11
couldn't get his visa lined up. So they got a
56:15
second opponent, again, could not get the visa
56:19
lined up. And this was the third option. Classic.
56:28
You love the tiny guys. This is pretty normal
56:32
for the tiny guys at this point. Especially at
56:36
minimum weight, like random. Basically, you don't
56:38
even know who you're fighting on fight day. Well,
56:42
we'll talk about later. Joe Cordina got a visa
56:46
issue as well. Yeah, it's generally been an issue
56:50
with the States. To be fair. With the US, it
56:53
has been lately. Yes. Yes. To be fair, Cordina's
56:57
visa issue is... incredibly stupid and self -inflicted
57:03
in a way. Yeah. Right. What are we doing doing
57:09
that? What Cordina did? Let's get to that. Yeah.
57:17
Let me put some last notes in here. The social
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I think it's pretty well put together, but I
58:00
might be a little biased. And while you're there,
58:02
check out the written content. What do we got?
58:05
What's the latest we got? The Ode to Probox.
58:09
Ode to Probox, which, oh, that was a scarily
58:13
bad time considering the rumors that came out
58:15
as soon as it was written and published. But
58:19
we're good. And I'll probably do a review of
58:21
the heavyweight landscape once a certain fight
58:24
this week. Is it this week or next week? Next
58:26
week. Next week occurs. I have that in the works.
58:33
I do want to mention from our last thing, Jair
58:37
Gallardo and Bunit Bisla fought. And Gallardo
58:43
won a unanimous decision with Bisla down in the
58:46
second round. My thoughts on this are quite simple.
58:49
I think Bisla needs to move down to 168. He's
58:52
a rather... He's tall. He's 6 '2", but he's very...
58:56
His frame is not built for light heavyweight.
58:59
He weighed in at 170 for this fight. Oh, no.
59:04
He's not made for 170. That's a whole five pounds.
59:08
Like, if you were at 173, maybe, but... Like,
59:13
when he fought Khalil Coe... Khalil, like, you
59:17
know how Khalil Coe's like, yeah, he's, like,
59:19
he's a, he's an actual light heavyweight, right?
59:21
Yeah. But he, he's, Coe is shorter than Bisla
59:27
and still look, like, dwarfed him in size. Just
59:32
physical presence in size. Um, I don't even think
59:35
Bisla's all that bad for a Canadian, um, boxer.
59:42
Um, he's just, You know, knowing his management,
59:47
they match him as tough as possible as soon as
59:50
possible. But it's just light heavyweight is
59:55
not it for this man. We've seen twice that, you
1:00:00
know, if the size disparity wasn't that enormous,
1:00:04
he'd probably have been given more of a chance
1:00:08
to win those fights. And 168 is open right now.
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right yeah yeah like it's it's pretty easy to
1:00:16
get into the mix and become a prospect instead
1:00:19
of taking weird fights at 175 because he's not
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bad he's not bad at all from the eye test he's
1:00:32
just he like you cannot make it at 175 being
1:00:37
physically outgunned by every guy you fight yeah
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coming in five pounds light that tells me that
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you're not rehydrating the same way that those
1:00:49
guys are yeah but even just it's just this frame
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you know like i need this i need to see it like
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you need to try to get to 168 and you know if
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you can't you can't but at least at least try
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working down through some catch weights man give
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1:01:12
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It is a light weekend. Friday, July 3rd. This
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is a German word. It's spelled Ruhe, but I don't
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know if that's how it's actually said. at the
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Eissport Hall in Essen, Germany. Our favorite,
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William Skoll, is back against Evander Castillo
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in an eight -rounder. An eight -rounder, no less.
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At light heavyweight, it seems. Oh, let's not
1:04:47
fix everything. Castillo's a career light heavyweight.
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Well... He jumps from middleweight to light heavyweight,
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but he's ranked at light heavyweight. Ranked
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being a very light... I have it marked at super
1:05:04
middle. Super middle? Yeah. It's possible that
1:05:08
Skull moved up. Or they could just be at a bit
1:05:13
of a flabby catch weight since it's an eight
1:05:15
-rounder. But just wanted to put that one on
1:05:21
the radar just because there's so little boxing
1:05:23
this weekend. If you really want to watch something
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Friday morning on the West Coast about 8 in the
1:05:32
morning, the card starts. And it's a pretty deep
1:05:37
event. So expect Skull to be somewhere in the
1:05:45
neighborhood of 2. It's a German card. The venue
1:05:50
is pretty cool. Honestly, I like watching German
1:05:57
cards regardless of the boxing level just because
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they are fun. They show up. The people show up.
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They show up. The production quality is also
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great. You're going to see 4K cameras most likely,
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which you never see anywhere else. Does DAZN
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even render in? 4k no but they have the cameras
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for it at um in the german events the german
1:06:26
events they they have the production so it'll
1:06:28
be it's it's always worth watching just to see
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what box what what boxing could be like if everyone
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cared this much and saturday july 4th Happy birthday,
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America. This is the real White House card. This
1:06:53
is the real fucking deal. All -American boxing
1:06:57
on July 4th. So top rank at the Wolstein Center
1:07:01
in Cleveland, Ohio. From the bottom up, Abdurahman
1:07:08
Mason is 2 -0 versus Alvaro Huiza. They got all
1:07:15
the Masons. Yeah. The second Mason brother, Ibrahim
1:07:20
Mason versus Eric Hanley. Four rounds at Superfeather.
1:07:27
Derek Davis versus Carlos Ramos. Eight rounds
1:07:32
at Lightweight. Delonte Johnson versus Christopher
1:07:34
Guerrero. Ten rounds at Welter. Bruce fucking
1:07:39
Carrington versus Rene Palacios at The WBC featherweight
1:07:46
title is on the line. The commemorative belt
1:07:50
is not the WBC's best work this time around.
1:07:55
Never is. Never is. They do do some cool ones
1:07:59
sometimes, but this one ain't it. It's always
1:08:03
the most ill -fitting fights for the cool ones.
1:08:06
I think the only fitting fight for a cool one
1:08:09
was that money belt for the... The Mayweather
1:08:13
-McGregor fight. That money belt was hilarious
1:08:17
and gaudy and it was great. But it's the type
1:08:23
of shit that those dudes like. I wonder if Floyd
1:08:28
still owns that belt if he had to pawn it. I
1:08:32
wonder if he still actually owns that belt. Main
1:08:38
event. WBO lightweight champion Abdullah Mason
1:08:43
against late replacement Albert Bell. So what
1:08:48
was it that Cordina, what was the situation with
1:08:51
that? Road rage incident where he was waving
1:08:54
a gun around at the person he was road raging
1:08:58
at. They allowed guns in Wales? I don't see that.
1:09:03
Where did you get that from? No, hence the...
1:09:06
Hence the... Problem, yeah, okay. So that's why
1:09:10
I'm like, normally, especially with the minimum
1:09:13
weight guys we just talked about, I'm like, okay,
1:09:15
this is blatant. You're from a country they don't
1:09:19
want. You fight at a weight no one gives a shit
1:09:23
about. No one gives a shit about you, dirty immigrants.
1:09:27
See ya. But with this one, I'm like, you did
1:09:30
it to yourself, man. What are you doing in Wales
1:09:32
waving guns around at people? What are you doing
1:09:35
in Wales with a gun? I don't care how bad the
1:09:39
other driver's pissing you off. Like, you have
1:09:42
a world title fight next week. What the fuck
1:09:44
are we doing? Well, honestly, this fight might
1:09:47
even be better than the Cordina fight. I agree.
1:09:51
Bell is a little unproven. I don't mind him.
1:09:54
He's just kind of old for lightweight. Old, but
1:09:58
you know he's unproven. Like, we don't know what
1:10:00
to make. He was a six foot. Exactly. Six foot
1:10:04
at lightweight? yeah goodness fucking gracious
1:10:09
that was also six foot um what i will say mainly
1:10:15
here is i really want we get i really want mason
1:10:19
to just listen to his corner please oh my god
1:10:22
of all the fights that you're going to follow
1:10:26
their advice please let it be this one For the
1:10:30
love of God, dude. I was so... The Sam Noakes
1:10:33
fight was only competitive because every... Mason
1:10:37
would piece Noakes up and then he'd stop listening
1:10:40
to his corner. I was pulling hair at the end
1:10:46
of that fight. No, I mean, Abdullah Mason, he's
1:10:52
solid. We all know he's solid. And you're right.
1:10:57
He gave away those rounds against... Sam Noakes,
1:11:00
and the thing is that if he does that against
1:11:03
someone that's unproven, it could be a pretty
1:11:06
hard night, I'll say. With that type of height
1:11:09
advantage. Exactly, and his reach is 73 inches.
1:11:13
Jesus Christ. For lightweight, that's pretty
1:11:17
fucking crazy. I've seen enough Albert Bell to
1:11:20
know that he's going to be a really formidable
1:11:23
opponent for Abdullah. I think, honestly... He's
1:11:27
probably a better opponent than Sam Noakes. Probably
1:11:30
might be Abdullah's hardest fight in his career.
1:11:33
That might be a weird thing to say considering
1:11:36
how much we don't really know about our bell.
1:11:39
But I don't know. I just think it's going to
1:11:43
be a rough night for Abdullah. Man. Agree. I
1:11:48
think. Oh, my God. It's just like this should
1:11:52
be a wash. It's almost a guarantee. He will not
1:11:55
listen to his corner. Try to put on a flashy
1:12:00
performance. Not even. It's just like there's
1:12:03
no IQ. There's just zero. If he listened to his
1:12:08
corner, things would be easy because he has all
1:12:10
the gifts and all the talent and the ability
1:12:13
to do it. Abdullah, you're my all -American boy,
1:12:21
man. You're the all -American fighter. Come on,
1:12:26
dude. You got to pull it together, especially
1:12:29
on this event. Please, man. I genuinely think
1:12:39
that this is probably going to be Abdullah's
1:12:41
hardest fight. With those physical advantages
1:12:44
for Albert Bell, yeah, I think you're fucking
1:12:47
right. He's never faced anything like that. He's
1:12:50
going to be punished even more so for being a
1:12:53
dumbass, which he will be a dumbass. He inevitably
1:12:58
will be a dumbass. Yeah, like it's not, I'm not
1:13:02
being mean. It's just like, because normally
1:13:04
you can blame the corner because a fighter will
1:13:06
look at their corner for wisdom or any type of
1:13:10
adjustment. And sometimes the corner doesn't
1:13:12
produce it. Namely, Ben Davidson is incapable
1:13:14
of producing anything useful. But no, his corner
1:13:20
produced it. His quarters telling him not even
1:13:24
like a complicated, like, let me drop a play
1:13:26
for you. Just very simple, direct instructions
1:13:30
that he can clearly listen to for the first minute
1:13:33
of a round. So it's just, you can't blame anyone
1:13:41
but him. I think we're going to see a good fight
1:13:46
on Saturday. I think it'll be fun. I got Abdullah
1:13:51
Minako. I will be very frustrated. I think it'll
1:13:58
be a wide decision. We'll see. I'm not even sure
1:14:03
what to pick. I'm thinking Abdullah decision
1:14:05
as well. But I think it's going to be a hard
1:14:09
fight. Abdullah... Deciding to fight like a fucking
1:14:14
moron for whatever his rationale might be. And
1:14:19
then facing his own Sebastian Fundura. This has
1:14:28
all the makings of a bad night for the Mason
1:14:33
clan. That's all we got on the docket, though.
1:14:48
Shall we get out of here? Oh, yeah. All right,
1:14:53
so we're heading into the 4th of July. We've
1:14:56
got Abdullah Mason on the cards. Parting words.
1:15:06
Don't break my heart, Mason, please. Prove who
1:15:10
you are. That ring. Rolls are being sent to Probox.
1:15:17
You know what? Let me... Abdullah Mason listening
1:15:20
to his corner before Virgil fights for his strap.
1:15:23
That's what we're hoping for. That's what we're
1:15:25
hoping for. Again. I gotta hear this shit every
1:15:29
time. Every single time. It only ages... It only...
1:15:32
This joke only ages better. Talk about age good
1:15:40
next time. I was ready for Joel Embiid to make
1:15:47
a conference finals this year just to make Virgil
1:15:51
the last unachiever standing. But, you know.
1:15:59
I'll just repeat my bit. Abdullah Mason, you're
1:16:04
the all -American lad this weekend. The fucking
1:16:09
world. Well, not the world. The U .S. They're
1:16:12
going to be watching you. There's no MMA this
1:16:15
weekend. This is it. Like for fight sports, this
1:16:19
is it. So, yeah. And this one's going to be on
1:16:23
TNT. So it's going to be on cable television.
1:16:28
The world's going to be watching. I keep saying
1:16:32
the world. America's going to be watching. We,
1:16:35
yes we. We, yes we, will be watching. We will
1:16:39
be sat down. All right. That's it for this edition
1:16:45
of the Boxing B -Sides. Man, we'll see you on
1:16:48
the other side of Abdullah Mason. We're going
1:16:50
to be talking about Jerron Boots Ennis. Why should...
1:17:11
A boxing fan watch MMA. Okay, here's my pitch.
1:17:17
The reason that a boxing fan would consider watching
1:17:21
MMA in the year of our Lord, 2026, is that MMA
1:17:24
is cheaper and more accessible than it's ever
1:17:26
been in its lifetime. Our biggest organization,
1:17:30
the UFC, has done away with pay -per -views.
1:17:33
It's now just like a $15 a month payment to Paramount
1:17:36
+, and you get 40... plus fight cards a year
1:17:41
um and it's not just the UFC you have organizations
1:17:45
like 1FC and Ryzen that put stuff directly on
1:17:49
YouTube for free to watch and you're able to
1:17:53
see a wide variety of high level skills like
1:17:56
this is not just like amateur or shit unless
1:17:58
we're talking about the heavyweight division
1:18:00
but boxing fans can relate to uh the gap of skill
1:18:04
there um These are some of the most talented
1:18:07
athletes in the world, and they're fighting,
1:18:09
especially if I can point out the Muay Thai stuff
1:18:12
that happens in 1FC. It's phenomenal. Another
1:18:16
reason that a boxing fan would want this, would
1:18:19
want to jump in now, is that I think unlike a
1:18:22
lot of the cards you're used to watching in boxing,
1:18:25
MMA cards are worth watching from the start.
1:18:29
You don't have to wait until the co -main to
1:18:32
see... something that isn't complete nerd shit
1:18:35
most of the times you're seeing even if it's
1:18:38
a lower skill uh feeling you're still seeing
1:18:42
fights that are exciting and compelling to watch
1:18:45
um we just came off the backs of usc 327 and
1:18:49
that card top to bottom was like absolutely stacked
1:18:52
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1:18:56
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1:19:00
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1:19:08
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1:19:10
to give MMA a shot, then why don't you check
1:19:12
out ultimate effing casuals? It's kind of the
1:19:15
same format. We talked the fights that happened
1:19:17
in the past weekend. Then the stuff coming up
1:19:20
this weekend, give it a shot. It's ultimate effing
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casuals.