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Rushion Interviews gifted Jazz Singer Melanie Charles and trailblazing Full-Figured Actress, Brely Evans · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: it Hollywood, you can call it music. The Grammy's last
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  Speaker 1: The number is fort zero four eight eight zero nine
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  Speaker 1: My first guest is Melanie Charles, a refreshing, inventive and
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  Speaker 1: gifted multi multipe instrumentalists and jazz singer. Melanie's provisational style, inflection,
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  Speaker 1: and spontaneia talents displayed in her celebrated album y'all Don't
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  Speaker 1: Really Care About Black Women? I Love That title has
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  Speaker 1: been held a sheer masterpiece. In twenty twenty two, Everny
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  Speaker 1: magazine listed her albums one of the top female jazz
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  Speaker 1: albums to listen to and enjoy. Melanie charles rumbling voice
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  Speaker 1: is perfectly in tune with her music. Her songs touch
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  Speaker 1: upon issues such as social economic disparity, the pay gap,
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  Speaker 1: and Mother Africa, all set to deep pumping bass speed.
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  Speaker 1: How you knowing? Melanie? Hello, listen McDonald, Thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for that warm introduction, and it's such an honor
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  Speaker 1: to be speaking with you today. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: there is a dual honor because the fact that let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the title, you know, I grew up with
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  Speaker 1: six sisters. Okay, So so when I when I hear
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  Speaker 1: a title like that, you know they always a TV
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  Speaker 1: we ain't don't care about you. The middle job, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite and all that good stuff. You know, could
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  Speaker 1: have four older sisters, and I was the middle writing
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  Speaker 1: nine kids. I was right in the middle. And so
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  Speaker 1: why what inspired the title? Y'all don't really care about
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  Speaker 1: black women Robs McDonald's. I think any black woman who's
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  Speaker 1: listening can agree that the role of the black woman
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  Speaker 1: in our families and our society is to be the backbone,
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  Speaker 1: is to always be okay, is to provide, is to
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  Speaker 1: help others. You know how many single family households are there.
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  Speaker 1: There are quiet there are some that are father single fathers,
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  Speaker 1: look at the way things progress, black women have not
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  Speaker 1: been supported as much. Black women are always like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're strong, you can handle it. This is what people
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  Speaker 1: say about black women. But we are more nuanced than that.
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  Speaker 1: We are human beings. We are weak. Sometimes sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: don't have the answer. And I just wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: a piece. That's sort of what my love letter to
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  Speaker 1: all black women saying sins, I see you, and it's
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  Speaker 1: okay to say I need help, it's okay to say
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  Speaker 1: I'm not okay. And I just wanted to sort of
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  Speaker 1: open up that conversation to the lens of the jazz boys.
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  Speaker 1: When you know, when you the jazz music and um
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  Speaker 1: and it's always an educational period for me because I
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  Speaker 1: grew up you know, h R and B. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: seventies child, you know, born in the fifties, late fifties,
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  Speaker 1: grew up in the sixties, so you know, the p
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  Speaker 1: funk landed, I was right there listening, all right, that's
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  Speaker 1: all right, slid right through disco, okay, can't you know
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  Speaker 1: back moon walk with Michael Jackson. Okay, all that good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and and and and then and then my
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  Speaker 1: boar Snoop Dogg woke me up. Okay, what's my name?
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  Speaker 1: What's my name? Okay? But jazz has always been a constant,
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  Speaker 1: but it's never I feel, became a mainstream sound. When
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  Speaker 1: I say that, I'm talking about at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the billboards, the top of this you know, selling out
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  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand seat rainers on a regular basis, because we
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  Speaker 1: do have breakout artists that do accomplish that task. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us about this, So I'll tell us about your love
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  Speaker 1: for and you don't have to be in a hurry
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  Speaker 1: to tell us about it, because I want to really
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  Speaker 1: get into this. Because jazz, you're you're you're talking on
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  Speaker 1: the number one jazz station in Atlanta, w CLK, number
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  Speaker 1: three jazz station in the country, w CLK. So this
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  Speaker 1: is a format format I like to feel that you
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  Speaker 1: can feel safer and talk about jazz on and because
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  Speaker 1: it's an education that people who are listening. Because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people just listening to my show, and because
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  Speaker 1: I don't play in the music, they tune in the
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  Speaker 1: hero Sean McDonald and the stories have to tell and
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  Speaker 1: the guests that he bring on the show. But when
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  Speaker 1: I get guests like you that there's a line itself
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  Speaker 1: with the station's music form, man, I feel it's time
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  Speaker 1: we really talk. So tell us about how did you
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  Speaker 1: get into jazz. Well, you know, my mother is a
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  Speaker 1: Haitian immigrant. She moved to America in her early third days.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, I it's got the age long,
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  Speaker 1: but I am first generation and my mom said that
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  Speaker 1: when she grew up listening to the radio. She was
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  Speaker 1: listening to Black American music, to jazz music. She was
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  Speaker 1: listening to Frank Sinatra, like that was what was her
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  Speaker 1: choice of listening all the way in Haiti, And when
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  Speaker 1: she came to this country, she said that it was
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  Speaker 1: her dream for her daughter, her firstborn, to be a musician.
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  Speaker 1: And so I guess she sort of set me up.
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  Speaker 1: I played the best of the best jazz musicians and
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  Speaker 1: R and B musicians, and I just naturally, naturally fell
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  Speaker 1: in love with it. But I love the conversation that
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  Speaker 1: you the point that she made about how it's not
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  Speaker 1: really mainstream. And I have this sort of concept that
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  Speaker 1: I came up with. It's called make Jazz Trill Again. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of like a call to sort of bring
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  Speaker 1: jazz back to what was popular in a sense, because
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  Speaker 1: there was an era, you know, the Miles Davis time,
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  Speaker 1: the era of Coltrane, you know d Nina Simone. There
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  Speaker 1: was an era and even earlier if you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about like Stride and like house parties and rent parties,
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  Speaker 1: where jazz music was the music that people were dancing
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  Speaker 1: to and and fellowshipping with. But the time it kind
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  Speaker 1: of became very institutionalized. It became a sit down type
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  Speaker 1: of music where there was a time where people were
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  Speaker 1: really dancing to it. And so I sort of have
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  Speaker 1: a vision of a world where we'd go back to
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  Speaker 1: that time where jazz was more accessible, where it was
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  Speaker 1: for the young people, which time it sort of became
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  Speaker 1: this old white thing. All the audiences are old white people, right,
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  Speaker 1: I like all all people. I love all people and
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  Speaker 1: music for everyone now. But but how beautiful would it
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  Speaker 1: be for if you be an audience filled with black
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  Speaker 1: and brown fasis, specifically young people and even the old
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes some artists sort of cut off, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: older crowd, maybe because the music is a little too
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  Speaker 1: avant garde or something. But what I love the conversation
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  Speaker 1: of how can we bring all audiences together? And also
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  Speaker 1: jazz is such it's the most suous form of musical expression.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's involving improvisation. Nothing is more honest than
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  Speaker 1: speaking your mind musically in the moment, something that you
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  Speaker 1: can't write, that you can't prepare. I mean to me,
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  Speaker 1: that is the highest performance of what our mankind can do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's doing a beautiful jazz record like you're
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  Speaker 1: witnessing something that is amazing. And so I'm really committed
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  Speaker 1: to furthering the conversation of jazz and expanding it past
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  Speaker 1: just a niche type of thing. I really believe that
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  Speaker 1: it can be popular. You know, I'm a from It's great,
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  Speaker 1: great conversational piece that you just gave us. I'm originally
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  Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, born and raised, and so I started
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  Speaker 1: out my stand up career of comedy in there. So
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  Speaker 1: you know Kurt Wayland, that's my boy out of Houston.
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  Speaker 1: You know Ronnie Laws, you know, out of Houston. I
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  Speaker 1: remember I was opening for Ramsey Lewis. You know, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: Ramas Lewis is gonna take me all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you the funniest due lab start in my life.
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  Speaker 1: And so I just said, oh, just look like that.
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  Speaker 1: You just gonna take me either. And so so I've
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  Speaker 1: always been connected to the Sign. I've always been been there.
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  Speaker 1: But when you say Miles Davis, don't Melanie Yaws. You
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  Speaker 1: know that's cool? You ever say that? You know all
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  Speaker 1: I just see his darkness. I see cigarettes, well, I'll
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  Speaker 1: see him in the corner. I just see a little
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  Speaker 1: spotlight on him. That's oh, that's when jazz is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just sit back and just rock and
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  Speaker 1: just go. You know that that that that that beat,
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  Speaker 1: that beat, that beat, that beat, And that's what That's
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  Speaker 1: what I think that you're saying that it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a music that it somehow seems to be tied to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, nice dinner music and by the fireplace, and
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  Speaker 1: people have missed the rebelliousness of jazz, the coolness of jazz,
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  Speaker 1: the iconic meats of jazz. That's what you're talking about, correct,
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly what I'm talking about. And I have
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  Speaker 1: goosebumps because it is so refreshing to have this conversation
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  Speaker 1: with you and for you to just really hit the
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  Speaker 1: nail on the head that this music is so much
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  Speaker 1: bigger and more exciting and absolutely rebellious than the dinner
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  Speaker 1: music that has sort of become these days. And it
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  Speaker 1: absolutely is cool. And I love that you you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: because I went to school with ent with Kenneth William actually,
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  Speaker 1: m so I am a witness of like the beautiful
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  Speaker 1: music and musicians that come out of Houston. Oh. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. You know, yeah, you know, you know the
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is that when I look at music
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  Speaker 1: and I look at the you know, because music is
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  Speaker 1: so impactful, especially you know, all I've the been is
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  Speaker 1: just black black person. So I can't say how impactful
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  Speaker 1: isn't in the Italian community or Hispanic community. I just
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  Speaker 1: know that music for me and them in my family,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, I knew how to. I could
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  Speaker 1: pick the songs with my mom when I was like
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  Speaker 1: five years old. She didn't. She couldn't understand how I
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  Speaker 1: knew the correct forty five to put on the player.
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  Speaker 1: I just knew. She said, put on James bron I
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  Speaker 1: went over there and put on James Brown, put on
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  Speaker 1: put on whoever was popping. Put on Aretha Franklin. I
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  Speaker 1: went over to the forty five play and put on
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  Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin because music was just so It's even before
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  Speaker 1: because we have different eras, but that jazz era scene
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  Speaker 1: together it seemed to get it. I thought that jazz
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  Speaker 1: led the civil rights movement. This is my thought. It
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  Speaker 1: led the civil rights movement. And then somehow, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the James Brown said loud I'm black and the crown
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  Speaker 1: that that kind of like moved the forefront and his
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  Speaker 1: tone took what I thought was the positive militancy of
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  Speaker 1: jazz over and jazz was just left there steal a
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  Speaker 1: great beach. What are your thoughts? Well, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: in an interesting time right now, and this might be
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  Speaker 1: a conversation for probably another segment of yours, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you're aware, but right now there's a
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  Speaker 1: rumbling as a conversation happening in the jazz community where
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  Speaker 1: we are, where musicians are interested in changing the name
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  Speaker 1: of jazz to BAM, which is short for Black American Music.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm a deliver in preserving the term jazz. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, my family is from Haiti, and in Haiti,
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  Speaker 1: when they reference to music, they used to term jazz.
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  Speaker 1: I'm running over whold of thought because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to lose any of that. You hold the BAM thought
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  Speaker 1: about black women. She's on the show and we had
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  Speaker 1: a nice conversation, you know, about jazz and where jazz
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  Speaker 1: is today and where jazz was and back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: and how music genres are starting to we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: find the footprint of where jazz is today. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: were saying before we went to break that some people
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  Speaker 1: were considering rumblings about changing the name jazz music to
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  Speaker 1: something else. Talk continue to that conversation. So, um, the
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  Speaker 1: term is band, which is short for Black American music.
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  Speaker 1: And the argument is that the term jazz is just
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  Speaker 1: too limiting and it sort of represents almost like the
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  Speaker 1: struggling jazz musician, and a lot of musicians are choosing
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  Speaker 1: to sort of turn away from that term. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's quite controversial, and I'm still a diehard jazz, you know, supporter,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to stick with that name. I'm into
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  Speaker 1: sort of reconsidering the way we interact with it in
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  Speaker 1: terms instead of changing the name completely. But what I
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  Speaker 1: do agree about the band concept is that it draws
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  Speaker 1: light on this is all Black American music. When you
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  Speaker 1: talk about James Brown, even though you say that it
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: kind of took the spotlight off of jazz and propelled
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it to something else, but that's something else is directly
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: connected to jazz music. And that's the fact. You know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: James Brown had all of the best jazz musicians in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: his band, the best horn players, the best improvisers, you
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's also another piece of
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: why I'm so committed to my make Jazz Shull Again mission,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: because not only is it to not only connect generations,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: but to also connect the genres, because the reality is
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that without jazz, there would not be hip hop, which
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was so beautifully celebrated on the grand Piece the other day.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I know everyone's really excited about it. Don't judge me,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: mister McDonald. I did not watch it, but I did
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you cheering when I said, Snoop, what's my name? Okay?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You know, also like sp I mean to me, Snoop
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: is so jazzie to me. His delivery to me has
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a beautiful swing to it. And so all of this
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: has its which jazz, hip hop, R and B so funk,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: they're jazz. The cousins and the children and the grandchildren
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of jazz, you know. So that's the beautiful thing. Um
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Mina Simone said. Jazz is the reflection of the time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So you know, the jazz of today isn't necessarily the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: jazz that Miles Davis or that Herbie or Herbie. Herbie
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is still with us and he's he's definitely has always
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: progressed at the time. But you know, let's say it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Sara Van. Let's say you know, the way in which
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the music founded, the way in which we interr rapid
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: with the music has shifted now, which is really exciting.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Part of what jazz is supposed to do is be
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a representation of the technology. Herbie Hancock was such a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: huge pioneer because he was one of the first people
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to incorporate the roles and the electric to Korea. All
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of these people like the music evolved as the technology involved,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and so there's different types of spaces and jazz right now.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: There's people who are really committed to sustaining the tradition
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of the classic classic jazz vocalists, and they have to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: shout out to Marjoy, who won a Grammy for Best
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Jazz Vocalists and Best Meet Artists this year, and she's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a really exciting example of what it looks like for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that tradition to be maintained. But then there are people
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like myself who are really interested in bringing in the technology,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: sort of following the more Herbie Handcock approach, so I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: incorporate samples and looping and my fluid and delays. So
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you know, as you could it can see how excited
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I am about this stuff. I could take over your
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: show and talk all day about that if you were.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tea.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop you right there, because you ain't gonna
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: take over my show with now you are not you're
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: gonna take over my show. What you will do it
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: would be a guest on my show. Miss Melan to y'all, now,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I respect y'all, appreciate you because when because come teas um,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you don't messed out anyway. You're doing a show at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the Blue Note right in New York, right, I am, okay, okay,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's on the twenty seven, you know, the twenty seventh
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: of February. You know what happens on that day. That's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: my birthday. So don't you mess with me, don't you.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I come up to New York and I let you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I let you, girl. And if anybody doesn't know, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: remember I moved up to New York in nineteen eighty
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: eight to pursue my stand up community career, comedy career,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and the Blue Note I actually walked by it all
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the time. And I wonder. I went in there and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it just felt, man, it just felt when you when
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you walk into a legendary facility and it's not I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: would say the word ghosts, but you know, there's a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: certain reverence that this place holds that just as a customer,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just as a tourist, because that's all I was. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to go on stage. I wasn't playing music
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: at the tamed the place was had was opening, it
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was night, so I got to see that look at
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that style and that flavor. But talk about performing at
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a legendary place like the Blue Note, the Blue Note
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is definitely one of the most important venues in the world,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and it truly is an honor, especially being born and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: raised in Brooklyn, New York. You know, I would pass.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I would go through West Village where the Blue Note
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: is located quite often. I would see concerts there. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: remember when two of my favorite concerts was You probably
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: know two of these people. One is Deebe Bridgewater. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I saw her performed there. And I also saw Rochelle Pharrell.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yes yes, yes, yes, I called a cool lady. Cool ladies.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: You don't move much on stage now she's gonna do
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: her thing, though she don't do her voice. Her voice
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: does all the movies. There you Go, There you Go.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And then I recently, actually I saw Macy Gray there recently,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and I love her, and so she'd be able to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: hit the stage and following the footsteps of these incredible,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: powerful women is such an honor. And I have an
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: amazing set together prepared. I'm gonna get some of my
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Haitians folk music. I'm gonna do a little bit of standards,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do some more of my tradition, my
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: more trill music, more my more current fresh sound. So
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: maybe we gotta get you a ticket to New York
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to celebration, can I can I just tell you that
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get me one. You know what
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that The only only the thing is is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that I am in my mind when I saw that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: day that went wow, man, She's performing on my birthday.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: That is so cool. So no, that is in my
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: brain right now. So if you see a strange guy
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: in the back ballhead, I'm have a little cool black
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: cap head on, like a like Elliot Nest type haddo.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So so you're gonna that must be Rashawn McDonald. You
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: said he gonna come in and shed it. But before
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: we go, I want to go through, like some of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the songs that you had on this because God bless
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the child all Africa. The music is the magic pay
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Black Women, the interlude go Away a Little Boy. You
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: know some of these songs. Why didn't you choose the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: song Woman of the Ghetto the direction because this is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a reimagined by Melanie Charles. You know, these are certain
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: beats and beginning to See the Light reimagined by Melanie Charles,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: or the Difference reimagined by Melanie Charles. Tell us about
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: your whole approach to this wonderful album. Thank you so much. Well,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I love these songs, these songs or songs that I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: grew up with my mom playing them on the radio.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And I was approached by Bird Records to make a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: remix album, but I told them, Okay, I'll do it,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do it the way everybody
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: else has done it. I'm going to do it my way.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And so it's not going to just be a regular remix.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a reimagining. And you know, to me,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the reason why we like certain types of music is
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: if there's a sense of nostarab to them. And so
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: all of the songs that you listed either our mother,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: our grandmother, or Auntie our uncles, many of those songs
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: were playing those songs, and I wanted to sort of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: put my own spin on them and what I love
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the most about, you know what I was able to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: do with Women of the Ghetto and go Away to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the Boy and Sara Varns detour head. Was there a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: moment for I'm almost du wedding with these women, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sort of almost like, how remember when n I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: can call a latter the two I'm togetter bird, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: all sort of like continuing on in that tradition of
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: hearing the sounds from the past and bringing them to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the present. And so that's this album was about two
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of the songs I like on this go Away a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Little Bore and God Bless the Child. And first of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: all those, God Blessed the Child is a very difficult
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: song to sing and play. It is a very power
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: for and then go Away a little more because you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I can hear the vocals in my head simultaneously with
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the beat, and it just really um it, it just
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: time stands still for me in a good way because
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: it allows me to you know, you know what I'm saying,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: melanis like what people don't understand about life is that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: we wake up who who wake up stresses in our life?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Stress is in our life. And so music like this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: allows us to continue to move forward in a very
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: tempoed manner. And that's why I wanted to bring you
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: on the show, and I wanted to give you your flowers,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and not because you don't need it, because you're super
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: talented and you got gifts, and you understand the music
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and you you're a champion and an ambassador for the music.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, what is the future for you as
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: we move forward with Jazz? I know you got the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: concert here, and I want to talk about the podcast.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That's where I probably run out of time talking about
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that podcast because you start in twenty sixteen, so you've
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: been a visionaire my podcast and started to twenty seventeen,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: so you was a visionaire before me. Okay, thanks safety
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: thinking of the McDonald's and yes, I'm very excited about
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the Majorshual Again podcast. I have been invested in sort
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: of creating a space for people who are interested and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: curious about jazz to have real conversations in a natural way.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And I was really excited to steep it you because
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I was snooping around on your website and I saw
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: there was a photo of you and Kevin Hart and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: my heart dropped because I was just watching Kevin Hard's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: documentary The One Don't Ask This Up, and I was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: so inspired and how he spoke about looking mistakes and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: trying and commitment and working out and fitness and finances,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and to see you in a photo with him, it
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: was a sign, Ah, I'm on the right path. I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: doing the homework, and the universe is connecting me with
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the right people to have the right conversations. So I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: very excited about my future. I'm grateful for my family,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: from my incredible team. I'm grateful to be meeting people
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like you, and the sky's the limit for truth. Well,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to know the fact that you have a show, two shows,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: not just one show on the twenty seven at the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Blue Note in New York City in the West Visae
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the Villagerry, which is like you know, great food, great atmosphere,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: great people. That's a different version of what New York
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: City is. Down there, I to go down there and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: perform at the Boston Comedy Club, just to go down there.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Wood It was down there with Jon Stewart was down
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: there with me. Ray Romano was down there, and then
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this Leary was down there with me. It was just
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it was just we was just down there, just just
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to be funny. And that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: what life is about, figuring out yourself and your goals
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and your expectations. And allow me to have a conversation
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: with you and listen to your time, listen to my world,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because you know I'm not the jazz expert. And you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: know I did play musical instruments when I was in
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: junior high I was a first chair of B flat
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: clarinetist and I also free beef tenor and alto saxophone.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you something, I could not mess
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: with that flute, okay. And that's what you do better
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: than anybody I know so much I appreciate it. We're
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: talking soon, and again, good luck on your show in
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: New York City. Before we go, how can we get
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: in touch with you? Uh? And uh give out the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: social media information ropad versic who are on the Instagram.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: You can find me on Melanie Charles is the Flower.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: My website is ww dot Charles dot com. You can
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Melanie Charles. But honestly, if
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: from my name Charles comes up, there you go. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that means that the SEO to SEO or just Google,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: y'all don't really care about black women. Google. I love it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations, Master claud Melany,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: j'alls we're talking soon, Okay, thank You're awesome. Coming up next,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Brialley Evans. Now, like I told you, this is about
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: black girl magic in the entertainment industry. She's straight Hollywood.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hear her story, hear her joy. It's not
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: over with now. I'm not acting like she's there yet
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: because she's she's always climbing. Every time I see you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: on TV talking to her. And what I always said, boy, Brialley,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. She's on the phone, don't go anywhere.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Aufter the commercial break, I'll be introducing her to the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: world through Money Making Conversation Masterclass. You are now tuned
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Hi,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: daily minute of inspiration. This week, I sat down with director,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: executive producer, and head writer of the hit series First
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson. She explains how being open
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: minded in the writing room can lead to a well
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: balanced project. You know, I'm a big believer that the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: writer's room should have the experience that you're depicting on
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the screen. I also wanted to make sure there wasn't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: us one queer person in the room, right who everybody
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: was looking at going and now we turn to you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: as a queer expert, right because you know, it's like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: like all experiences, there's no such thing as a monolithic
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: experience or whatever it is that you are. It was important,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you know, for all the experiences that I thought we
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: were going to be depicting, right right. If you want
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to listen to this full interview with Felicia Henderson, it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: available on Moneymaking Conversation dot com. My guests has been
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we've been missing each other. We scheduled and we have
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to unschedule. But I got her today on live radio.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I guess is Breeley Evans. She's an actress, vocalist, force
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: on voice over talent and philanthropists Weether. Brieley is making
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you cry in a drama and she is that kind
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of actress laugh in a comedy. She is that kind
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: of an actress, a challenge you intellectually through her thought
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: provoking podcast interviews. She finds time to keynote speak on
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: being a curvy girl and unapologegetically unique. Currently stars and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. This original series follows the lifelong hustle
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of young females as they navigate their careers on Chicago's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: tough soft side. He premiered on we TV and They're
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: All Black Network. Really is only show to discuss her career,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: charitable work and new show Cold and Windy. Her characters
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: GG please work with the money making Conversations Masterclass Brialley Evans, Ye, Hey, Briley,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: did it Brially? Did I put it out? Then? I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: put you out there? You're then I put you out there?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: You put me out there so cold? I was making
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: you talk about well, you know I first of all,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna mention another show family business, Okay,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: BT plus that's right, because you know you can see Lute.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Colden Windy. But let's go to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the family business. You know that's when you was getting
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: all you know, romantists romantic. Oh you know, curvely romantic.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I how gonna let this scene go? How? First, you
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: don't let this go? Let me tell you something. All
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of my uncle, my daddy, my mom, all of us,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: y'all should go out a lot. I say, this ain't
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for y'all to watch, but they love the show. They
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: love the show. Oh you know, it's always beautiful really
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to um watch talented people. You know, in our relationship
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: goes for years. We're doing each other for years. You know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: when you was doing red carpet interviews and and you
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you contact me for advice or he said, racheand what
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: we're doing here? And then you disappear, give your cribby
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: hoping either you come back. What do you think I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: should do? Oh? Okay, you're back up? Okay, all right,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: all right? Did you go out there? Next time I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: see you on Stanley Family Business, I interviewing You're on
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: one show, you know, another show after that. But the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: beauty of it is dad. You know, we want to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: talk about full figure Curvey, you know, because that is
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: always That's why I just love about watching your role
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: on Family Business. It was a romantic role. It wasn't.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't for last You wouldn't have made
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't a school teacher. You wouldn't you weren't on
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the side, you know, you know, supporting the fine chick.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like that. Talk
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: about that character and talk about the importance of being
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: able to have an identifiable character that you felt relatable,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that you felt was in embracing who you really are.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Can I just say the opportunity to be on Family
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Business was first off, incredible. That production team tried destined
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: with the first to make me a leading lady in Hollywood.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: So they brought me back in The Man and Three
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: B In that movie, they brought me back again to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: round out the ensemble cast for Family Business as the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: nurse Sonya. Sonya Brown is my character's name, and this
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: character ended up with their oldest son j and then
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: we even as everyone saw on the finale, we ended
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: up getting married. So this opportunity to play a love
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: interest to someone be sexy and in my full self
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was so important because I feel like I represent more
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: than half of the women who are watching this right
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: number one. And so just to let people know, like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: we don't always have to be the funny friend and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the you know, the chick on the side. We can
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: actually be the main character because in real life we are.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be the face of the body
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: of the curvy girl out here in Hollywood. I'm happy
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to take on that opportunity in that role. It's been
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: wonderful for me. And can I tell you this, It
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: used to be a challenge right when I first came
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in this business. I gotta lose weight. Oh, I know.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We had those conversations, you know, and it's sad because
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, it's hard enough to go in for an
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: all audition, okay, because you just compared too. Then you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: going in the audition worrying about if you the right
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: physical type. And also also you you know, your your
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: agents are the people who represent you will say, well,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you you know this ain't your type. Well what do
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you mean? You know? Right? Right? And then why can't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you be that love at you? Why can't people see
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you as being attractive? At your weight size or your
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: shape size. And that really had the not only kind
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: of like bringing unnecessary stress in your life, but frustration too.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: It did, it really did. And the thing about it is, um,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I wasn't losing the weight fast enough. I even I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: don't know if you know this about me, but I
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: was the face of Jenny Craig from two thousand and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen and lost forty four pounds with them. Right,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So I at one point in my life I did
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bring the weight down, but I noticed I work more.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Hear me now, I worked more and work more as
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a curvy girl. But who is healthy? There's a thing
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: as just because your sin does not mean you are healthy.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And I want people to know that you can be
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: as thick as you are and have stamina and be
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: able to endure, can still do cardio at top rates.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Like don't don't please, don't believe that if you're curvy
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that you on your way to the grade. That is
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: just not true. Right, Yeah, you know it's really interesting,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like I've been, I haven't had a pretty and interesting
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: life from a writing standpoint, you know, I wrote with
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Steve Harvest first sitcom Me and the Boys, and then
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Robert Towns and Parenthood, and I did d'arcineo Hall and
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: The Twins, t and Tamara Morrow or Sisters Sister and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show. But the show that I always go
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: back and talk about is The Parkers, and that's right,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and that Parker's because reason that was so special for
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: me because I come from a family of six sisters,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: my mom was overweight, and so it was about even
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: though it's a comedy and sometimes it went over the top,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but they look good. They talked about how good they were.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: They talked about being sexy, they talked about wearing good clothes,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and they were not mades, you know, you know they
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: were they were strong. But you know, comedy cans allow
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you to go for the joke first. But I always fought.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Monique knows that I always fought for her character to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: have dignity, not to be silly heart, you know. And
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: so that show right there, The Parkers always when people
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: always talking about all the shows I worked in sitcom,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm proud of all my work, but that one
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: show that Sarah Finnie Johnson allowed me to consult on
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and help her produce, It's one of the shows that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I always go back and go. That's one of my
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: favorites because of the fact that I know how Hollywood
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: has always described black women over the years as being
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the butt of the joke, being mades, being nannies, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: we had an opportunity to take two women who weren't
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that traditional, you know, petite or size sick. You know
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You know
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the the numbers they want to stay in that they
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: call fine. You know, And I tell you this, when
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I think of the Parkers, I don't even think about weight,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: right at all. Right, I think about funny. I think
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: about real life situations that I was going through as
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a young person that she was going through on the show. Right,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it was like, this is the same, Like I mean,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything about weight at all, Like literally,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I don't. And that's important for people to hear when
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: they're listening to the show because sometimes, you know, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: look at you look at your children, you look at yourself,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and you start questioning what other people think instead of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: questioning how you feel. Do you feel good about yourself?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Because like you said, you know, having a weight doesn't
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean high blood pressure, doesn't necessarily mean that you
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: technically out of shape. There. They're skinny people out there
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: who can't walk up a flight of steps, okay, okay,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: walk up steps and they knees hurt. Okay, skinny people, okay.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And so so don't don't don't don't equate way to
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: as to how our person is doing internally, emotionally and physically,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: because you know, I have to bring your own I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: had to bring That was one of the thing I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about on you, and I'm glad we're
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: getting into that because you know we can finally have
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that honest conversation before we go to break. I want
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to ask you this, the way Lizzo has done our career,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: how much has she played a major factor in Hollywood
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: or just the entertainment And you said, tell everybody, just
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: shut up. I believe she's played a major role. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I'll double down by saying I played a major role too,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: because I got to a place where I said, you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to be authentically me. And when
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: when we step into our authentic selves, no matter how
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: we look, that's when the magic happens. That's why I'm
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: always working and not calling you for six months because
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I cannot stop working. I literally graduation show when the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: show was done, and I'm so grateful, But I know
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the superpower is being my most I think itself, that's it. Well,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: all I know is when I'm watching Family Business, you
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and watching you handle your love business,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, they isn't the girl? I know? That brilliant
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: because because they have these these are these what they
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: call what what coaches on you know, making sure you're
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: comfortable and you know, and me to tell us what
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that conversation was like, you know, when you were getting
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: romantic and everything on Family Business? Bring it down to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: my audience here because they never I've never had a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: guess if they had a role like yours on my show.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So what's so amazing is Sean Ringo, who plays Junior
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: on the show, who I met the other day. Oh
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: my god, love Sean, love his wife. Hey, y'all actually
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: have a conversation and we say, what are you comfortable with?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: How can I make you feel comfortable in this situation?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: We do askducers to lock the set down. Only who
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: needs to be in the room is in the room.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So we are we definitely make sure we take care
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of each other in that way. Where is it okay
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to touch? Where is it not okay to touch? We
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: most definitely craft what you see. It is just not
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: a free for all. It's not that at all. It's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: most definitely a dance that we are doing that. It's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: been choreographs. Okay. Oh but but but what did mama
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: say though? What did mama said? Mama saying, Lord, have mercy?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: She's the people at the church going And it's at
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the church when I when I ran into him, you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: at the church, I just I just laughed at him.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I just laughed at him. I love that. My uncle
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Slocum and who actually puts videos up on his page,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Lord my knees. Oh, I know she ain't doing it,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: so he makes a big joke of it. But it's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: really funny that um. I mean, I just think it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: really funny because we end up laughing. You know, they go,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they yell cut and we're laughing. You know, awesome, we're
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: not all in those sexual moments. Well, you know the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: thing about it, we're joking because it's all professionally done,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's what Hollywood is. It is it
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: is a fantasy mirror. It's smoking mirrors. And but we're
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just talking about in the extending this conversation because we're
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: about to go to break. It's the fact that you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: are in a romantic role. It's about you, it's about
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it's not about a joke. It's a real romantic relationship.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: And that's where Hollywood has come and especially for women
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of color. And I just want to congratulate you on that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And and I'm so I'm so happy to see that,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and you are, you are busy. But when we come back,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: when we talk about you a legend, it means so much.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. And when we come back, when we
• 43:44
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• 44:17
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• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I just say, it's a complete blessing man
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: opportunity to help them become entrepreneurs and start businesses in
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: property preservation, which is a multi billion dollar industry that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: has been a white male dominated industry for a very
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: long time. Most of my students, however, have been African
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: American women and it has been phenomenal, phenomenal. I'm very
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: thankful to God for that whole avenue being open for me.
• 44:48
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• 44:50
  Speaker 1: on Moneymaking Conversations dot com. I'm speaking to actress, vocalists
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Farce Over Talent and philanthropists Briley Evans. She's a new
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: show called co Old and Windy as stars two young
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: females whose career paths is set on the South Side
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of Chicago. I lived in the Chicago for five years
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: when I was up there doing the Steve Harvey talk show,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: so I know it can get cold up there. When
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: did they tape this show? Was it in the wintertime
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: or in the summertime? Did they tape this series. Really
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: forget about what time of the year was We take
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: it in Atlanta. Really, yes, so they did all the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: b roll So they did all the b roll up
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: in this le girl, I had some cold stories for you,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm already with now they fooled me. That is
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: outstanding productor Oh, I can't wait until the producers Kenny director,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I'm taking because I lived up there five years. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we'll tell you something. Winter is is self timber to June. Okay,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you know it is crazy cold, but this is series
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. About the two actors, Let's talk about
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: your character before we get into them. What excited you
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: about the role and playing this particular character because it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: a drama. First of all, Yes, it is a drama.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: And I play the aunt to the two main characters
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and their names, respectively, Cold and Windy. They are a
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: rap group. And I raised those two girls as my
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: own because their mothers, you know, were on drugs and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: just weren't raising them right. So I took those girls
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: as my own and raise them up. Playing this role,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I smoke about fifty level cigarettes and I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: don't smoke in real life. This is a learning curve
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: for me. But she's a rock. You know, it's so
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: important to have that rock in your family but also
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: in your community. So she's the one that holds down
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the block, right, She's that untie's house you can go
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: to for refuge. You know. She has a candy store
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: in her basement where all the kids come during the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: day to buy their little penny candies and put cheese
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: on their doritos. But then at nighttime, that same space
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: turns into her lounge when we come and play cards,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: play spades and dominoes and talk mess and drink a
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: little brown liquor, right, you know, right? You know. An
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: interesting thing about it is that the reason I love
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the series is because there are so many or stereotypes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: especially when you say South Side of Chicago. Yes, there
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: is violence that happens in communities, but sometimes we forget
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: there are people who are living normal lives, who are successful,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: who kids do go to college, who do aspire to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: be special and unique. And if we don't have that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: story told, realistically told, then we just we we kind
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of like let that community just go to waste. Were
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: like saying, hey, they don't go over there. You know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: black people are be afraid to go over there because
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: they can get they can the rumors of that community
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: can be done like that. I know that because I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: lived in La fifteen years. It was the same thing
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that happened to Watch. It was the same thing that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: happened to sout Central. It was the same happen to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: all those communities. Say don't go over there, don't go
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: over to do in Oakland. I'm from Oakland, California. I'm
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: a native of Oakland, and we get the same bad rap.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I totally get it. And so and so
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: when you when you get a role like this, and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: do you do you ever feel because we don't get
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: into your foundation here in a minute, because you're such
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a voice of reason, the voice of change, and then
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you're very your talented comedic actress too, and so so
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: is it like, hey, we sean, whoever hits my desk,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that's the role I'm gonna do. All you trying to
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: pursue a particular lane of success for your talents. Now,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I'll be very, very very honest with you when in
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: my first half of my career, which is why I'm
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: probably over sixty projects in since I've been doing this,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I used to take what came to me because I
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: didn't get every role I went out for. So every
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: role I went out for was very specialized obviously because
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a curving girl, which about that was specialized for me.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: So most things that came across my deskwork were yes
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: already because it fit my category. Later in life where
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I am now, I slowed down all the way. I
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: have just started feeling comfortable to say no, I'm gonna
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: pass on that supporting role. You I know I do
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the supporting roles. Well, I'm ready to do more leads
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: now I'm more so crafting what I want to do.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: So in crafting this thing, it's much different. It really is,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: because I would just tell everybody what she's saying is
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: and I had to do it myself. I remember when
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted to start, you know, I was doing stand up.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to take every gig. I remember I
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: had the biggest financial offer I ever had. I turned
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: down because I didn't want to perform in a nightclub
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: on New Year's Even and everybody they're gonna turn off
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the hip hop music and here's Rahan. I went, wow,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not time out. But when this is my money.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: That said, Nah, I pass that. That is not the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: world of money. Yeah, and then and that's that's what
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and that's what you're saying. It's not about the money.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: It's about let's just put it away. It's not about
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: the money. It is about the money because we need
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: money to survive. But we can't lead with the money.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: That's all we're saying. You can't lead. You have to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: one day wake up and say I have a standard
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: of what I want to do with my life and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: this is not one of them. A man, that's what
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, correct, Brialley, That is exactly what we're saying,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: because I had to say that to myself, like, you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: what kind of legacy do you want to leave? And
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: there's certain story I mean, everybody's story is worth being told.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying there are
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: certain stories that I'd like to tell, so I am
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: focusing on those. I've now put my hand in being
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a producer and a director, so now I get to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: write the story. I'm on the other side of the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: camera making sure that stories get out that I personally
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: would like to highlight. You know, it's important that you're saying,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: controlling your narrative because now that we see we know
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the unfortunate situation to have with George Floor when he
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: was murdered and many of that. Yes, you know there
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: was an explosion of diversity and content and networks and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: things like that. How has that played a role in
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: your life as a working actress, night working producer and
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: director of giving you opportunities because now you've been brought
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in for roles that may have just specifically went to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a white actor, a white actress. You know what I'm saying, Yes,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: and so I'm grateful for the opportunity. It's unfortunate that
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: it rides on the backs of my people in that way.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: But that's why I'm making sure that what I say
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: yes to is going to make a difference moving forward.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: It was just like the show that I'm on now,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Cold and Windy. It's making us remember that there are
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: those aunties that maybe not be and not blood to you,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: but unties matter. We need those women who we can
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: look up to, get advice from, take the hard lessons from,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: who love us, who tell us you know that ugly
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: truth when we need it. So telling those types of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: stories really means a lot to me because I know
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I had that, I wouldn't be who I am today
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: without those strong women who guided me, you know, in
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: my young teenage to twenty some things. You know, so it,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: you know, really makes a difference. And I'm like I said,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that this is the way the industry opens
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: up to us, you know, where they see all the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: past things happening. But I'm grateful that I can have
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a voice to stand up for my people in that way.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Brilly Evans, one of the stars of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the show on a WeTV and the All Black Network
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: or Cole and Wendy. But she also is a philanthropist.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: She has a foundation called water Walkers World, where I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: founded by her Brilly, of instance, a nonprofit organization to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: inspire others to overcome their fears and to walk on
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: water towards their dreams. Such a powerful statement. Tell me
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: why there's need for your foundation and what type of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: work are you doing to inspire people? Okay, this is
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: my life's work. I believe that God is allowing me
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to be on this front stage of film and television
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: so that this kind of work can get done. A
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: project that we're working on right now is cast from
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: nine to five to Wow. Nine to five to Wow
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: allows people to realize I can do my god giving
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: gifts and make money from it. I just don't have
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to have a job of regular job somewhere that I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: don't like. I'm not happy, you know, getting up every day.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: We want people to be leaping out of bed with
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