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Short-Term Pain, Long-Term Gain — Trump Allies Say This War Won’t Become Another Iraq · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, So we are doing a dual podcast if
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  Speaker 1: you are listening right now to the Ben Ferguson podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Actually thought I was going to take a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of time off during spring break, but then the war
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  Speaker 1: broke out in Iran. So Senator Cruz and I are
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  Speaker 1: doing a dual podcast right now that you are hearing
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  Speaker 1: both of us, and we've got a lot to bring
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  Speaker 1: you on what's happening in Iran and some other issues
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well. We're in week two of the war with Iran,
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  Speaker 2: and I will say this success is continue to build up.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the first day of this conflict,
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  Speaker 2: Iran launched three hundred and fifty ballistic missiles. By day
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  Speaker 2: eight that had dropped to fifteen. The second day of
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  Speaker 2: this conflict, Iran launched five hundred and forty one drone
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  Speaker 2: attacks by day eight that had dropped to twelve. What
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  Speaker 2: we have done in less than two weeks now, we
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  Speaker 2: have taken out Iran's air defenses. We've taken out their
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  Speaker 2: missile launching capacity, we have taken out their missiles, we
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  Speaker 2: have taken out their missile manufacturing. We've taken out their
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  Speaker 2: drone launch capacity, we have taken out their drones. We
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  Speaker 2: have taken out their drone manufacturing. If you look at
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  Speaker 2: their navy, virtually every ship in their navy has been
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  Speaker 2: sunk to the bottom of the ocean. That effect in
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  Speaker 2: less than two weeks is profound. And I want you
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  Speaker 2: to listen to the Secretary of War Pete Hesith talking
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  Speaker 2: about what's been accomplished and what to expect next. Give
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  Speaker 2: a listen.
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  Speaker 3: All right, center, So let's play.
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  Speaker 2: For every interrupt you let me interrupt you right now, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: So you're right now in Caba.
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  Speaker 3: I am that's true. Yes, yes, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to thank you on behalf of
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, who watch on Facebook? And I just want
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  Speaker 2: to say, I'm really glad that you are not in
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  Speaker 2: aspito right now. I am not.
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  Speaker 4: I am in a suit, a jacket, or even worse,
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  Speaker 4: a borat. A borat, yes that like covers the equipment
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  Speaker 4: and goes over your shoulders. I'm just gonna say, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest, we don't know if you're in aspeito a
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  Speaker 4: borat because the camera shot is only chest up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is what you call hazing. When
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  Speaker 1: when when when center Cruise is one.
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  Speaker 2: Of us is at work, Like I've spent the whole
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  Speaker 2: day in the Senate, I'm working. By the way, it's
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  Speaker 2: your spring break, it's my spring break. My girls were
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  Speaker 2: were skiing on spring break. I went for a day
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  Speaker 2: and a half and then got on a plane and
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  Speaker 2: I flew back to Washington, d C. Because some of
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  Speaker 2: us have a job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. And and I'm proud.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm proud of you,
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  Speaker 1: as I would clear on the beach today.
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin has had nineteen dakeries today, and and and if
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  Speaker 2: I asked him to walk in a straight line and
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  Speaker 2: spell the alphabet backwards, he couldn't do so.
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  Speaker 3: I did have two Miami Vices today just an interview.
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  Speaker 3: I knew you would.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what a Miami Vice is you.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's just said. I'll introduce you the next time
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  Speaker 3: we're hanging out in Cabba.
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  Speaker 2: What what is a Miami Vice.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a pinnaclauda strawberry dacre together. They called him
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  Speaker 1: Miami Vice. You never had a Miami Vice in your
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  Speaker 1: entire life. As I'm sitting here in Cava, I will
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  Speaker 1: mean this sincerely.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't care. I'm That's how happy I am.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, So here we go. Here's Pete head Seth.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna start with Pete head Seth giving an update
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  Speaker 1: on the war. I want you to take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to what he had to say about where we are
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  Speaker 1: now and what is happening.
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  Speaker 3: Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 5: On day ten of Operation Epic Fury, we are winning
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  Speaker 5: with an overwhelming and unrelenting focus on our objectives, which
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  Speaker 5: are the same as the day I gave my first
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  Speaker 5: briefing here on Operation Epic Fury. They're straightforward, and we
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  Speaker 5: are executing them with ruthless precision. One destroy their missile stockpiles,
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  Speaker 5: their missile launchers, and their defense industrial base missiles and
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  Speaker 5: their ability to make them two destroy their navy, and
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  Speaker 5: three permanently deny Iran nuclear weapons forever. It's a focused,
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  Speaker 5: maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming and unrelenting precision, no hesitation,
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  Speaker 5: no half measures.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this sinator.
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  Speaker 1: As you hear him lay that out, I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what the pulsees in DC as you guys are
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  Speaker 1: there talking about this. I'm still trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what exactly the Democrat talking point is. I've seen like
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  Speaker 1: four or five of them that they've been kind of
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  Speaker 1: throwing jello at a wall to.
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  Speaker 3: See if anything will stick.
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  Speaker 1: They're obviously wanting to hurt Donald Trump and this or
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  Speaker 1: trying to say he's going to get into forever or
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  Speaker 1: it's not really working. So what are your colleagues saying
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  Speaker 1: in the Senate about this? And also among Republicans as well,
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  Speaker 1: there's even been there was an interesting moment by the way,
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  Speaker 1: where like they were trying to bait you into trashing
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  Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham and others are trying to turn Republicans against Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: And as I was sitting here on the beach drinking
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  Speaker 1: my Miami Vice. I enjoyed watching You Have to Deal
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  Speaker 1: with That on TV because I just got to be
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  Speaker 1: a spectator.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, last night I was on Laura Ingram, and
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  Speaker 2: Laura's a friend and she's supporting President Trump in this
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  Speaker 2: military conflict. But she asked a whole series of questions
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  Speaker 2: about aren't you upset that it's been reported that Lindsey
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  Speaker 2: Graham was talking to Prime Minister net and Yahoo? And
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  Speaker 2: she basically said, isn't Lindsay acting as a lobbyist for Israel?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, Laura, with all due respect, now, and
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  Speaker 2: that's really a silly question. Listen, Lindsey, I agree with
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay on some issues. I disagree with Lindsay on other issues.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the Iraq War. Lindsay was a big
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  Speaker 2: proposent of the Iraq War. I think the Iraq War
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  Speaker 2: was a serious mistake. I think it did harm to
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  Speaker 2: the United States. And I've said that for a long
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  Speaker 2: long time. So Lindsay and are on totally different pages
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to Iraq. When it comes to Iran,
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  Speaker 2: Lindsey and I agree. I think when the Ayatola says
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  Speaker 2: death to America. He means it. I think President Trump
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  Speaker 2: is right to act to take out the leadership in
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  Speaker 2: Iran because having radical Islamist leadership that wants to murder
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  Speaker 2: Americans is bad for America. The regime in Iran has
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  Speaker 2: been the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism for forty
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  Speaker 2: seven years. Theyre provide ninety percent of the funding for Hamas,
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  Speaker 2: for Hesbela and for the Houthis. They've killed nearly one
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  Speaker 2: thousand Americans in the last five decades. The Ayahtola he
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  Speaker 2: leads mobs channing death to America, and he hires two
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  Speaker 2: different crews of hit men to try to murder Donald J. Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way too, and can pause on that.
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  Speaker 2: One was just convicted the last week of doing so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's spend a moment on this
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  Speaker 1: because this is part of the Democrats talking point, and
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  Speaker 1: I've been fighting this pretty hard on TV as well,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, well, they weren't. There was not a
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  Speaker 1: direct threat here. This was not a direct threat to America.
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  Speaker 1: You're now putting people in harm's way. Let's make it
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  Speaker 1: very clear on this show as you described it, not
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  Speaker 1: one but two that we know about were sent to
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  Speaker 1: try to take out and kill the President of America.
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  Speaker 3: That came directly from Iran.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the hitman told the Department of Justice,
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  Speaker 2: I was hired by Iran, I was trained by Iran,
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  Speaker 2: and my purpose was to murder President Trump. There's no
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  Speaker 2: dispute that it was Iran that was paying for this.
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  Speaker 2: And I will note if you remember last year when
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  Speaker 2: I was interviewed by Tucker Carlson, it was an unhinged interview,
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  Speaker 2: but he disputed me. He said, no, no, no, I've
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  Speaker 2: never heard that Iran's trying to murder Donald Trump, which
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  Speaker 2: was insane and totally counterfactual. And it's hard to actually
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  Speaker 2: argue with someone for whom facts don't matter and they
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  Speaker 2: just make up facts. But then Tucker said, bizarrely, well,
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  Speaker 2: and if Iran was trying to murder Trump, we should
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  Speaker 2: attack them now, we should nuke them, which was insane.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I will say, in Monday's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: we pointed out Tucker has become such an Islamist shill,
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  Speaker 2: such an Israel hating zealot, such an advocate for every
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  Speaker 2: Islamist enemy of America that he has argued this week
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  Speaker 2: that President Trump's demand for unconditional surrender of Iran means
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  Speaker 2: that Iran should expect American soldiers to rape their wives
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  Speaker 2: and daughters. Yes, that is an absolute slander of our
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  Speaker 2: American servicemen and women. It is totally false, it is ahistorical.
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  Speaker 2: We don't do that. Other armies do that. America does not.
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  Speaker 2: And he also argued that he thinks America is going
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  Speaker 2: to nuke Iran. To be clear, that's what Jahadis Tucker
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  Speaker 2: said in his interview we should do if Iran was
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  Speaker 2: trying to murder President Trump. We now have one of
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  Speaker 2: the hit men convicted in a federal jury for trying
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  Speaker 2: to murder Trump. So Tucker's bad faith, disingenuous position is
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  Speaker 2: we should nuke them. Of course, we should nuke them.
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  Speaker 2: We're not gonna nuke Iran. That is bizarre, that is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: We're also not There is no circumstance in which American
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  Speaker 2: soldiers are going to rape the women of Iran. But
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  Speaker 2: do you know who is broadcasting Tucker's broadcast right now?
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  Speaker 3: Literally Iran?
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  Speaker 1: The state sponsored media is broadcasting it to their people.
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  Speaker 2: The government of Iran is broadcasting Tucker to their people.
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  Speaker 2: The Muslim Brotherhood has retweeted and put out Tucker's broadcast
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  Speaker 2: to the world. R T the press organization Russia. Russia
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  Speaker 2: Today is pushing out Tucker. So you want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about a damn effective propagandist for people who hate America.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the slippery slope of Jew hate and
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  Speaker 2: Israel hate. You start with just hating Israel and Jews
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  Speaker 2: blaming everything bad in the world. It's the Jews, and
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  Speaker 2: you very quickly get into the problem is capitalism. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Tucker is now attacking capitalism on a daily
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  Speaker 2: basis and embracing He's embraced Comrade Mandami as the mayor
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  Speaker 2: of New York. He's defended him repeatedly. He's embraced Nicholas Maduro,
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  Speaker 2: the Marxist America hating dictator of Venezuela, who Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: went and rightly apprehended for being one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: drug dealers in the world, killing Americans. Tucker is defending him.
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  Speaker 2: And that pattern is incredibly dangerous. We're seeing it play
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  Speaker 2: out every day.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, side note, this is going to be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to guess in two thousand, this would
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  Speaker 1: probably be two thousand and.
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  Speaker 3: Nine, eight or nine.
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  Speaker 1: My big to day to day like to date right now,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest contract I've ever been offered in my entire
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  Speaker 1: life to do radio TV.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know who it was from?
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing Tucker. And what I want to ask is,
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  Speaker 2: did you have to buy a home and cut her
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  Speaker 2: like he has no.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's a good guess, but no, it was not.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest offer in the history of my career was RT.
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  Speaker 1: They tried to hire. They were trying to hire conservatives,
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  Speaker 1: and so in two thousand whatever year they like, they
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  Speaker 1: came into America in the marketplace.
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  Speaker 2: How much did they offer you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh dude, it was seven figures.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was I don't remember, Like seriously, I
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  Speaker 1: get rich, like instant, get rich money.
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  Speaker 2: So they offered you over a million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, over a million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So the likes to say, Vladimir Putin is wise and
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  Speaker 2: a damn good looking man.
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  Speaker 1: So this is how they entrap people. As I describe it,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the bush years. I get a phone
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  Speaker 1: call from a former worker slash, you know, TV executive
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  Speaker 1: from Fox News Channel, and they said, Hey, I've moved
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  Speaker 1: on to something else. I'd love to meet with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, more than happy to me. I'd worked
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  Speaker 1: with them before at Fox News Channel. Like, okay, no
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  Speaker 1: big deal. I go to lunch in DC, that's where
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  Speaker 1: I was living at the time, and she hands me
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  Speaker 1: her card and she's working for RT and I'm like
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  Speaker 1: RT like Russia today like and she's like yes, and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, we would love to have you come on
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  Speaker 1: and just give your viewpoint. We would never tell you
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  Speaker 1: what to say. We would never tell you what to like.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we want you to just be exactly who
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  Speaker 1: you are. We want a fair and balanced conversation about
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  Speaker 1: the world. We think you would be great. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm still in shock. I'm like this
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  Speaker 1: is I'm like looking for cameras. I'm waiting for, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, somebody to come out, like from the side
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  Speaker 1: room like we got him.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like I literally looked.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no amount of money that is
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  Speaker 1: gonna make me work for the Russia and for BLA.
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  Speaker 1: I think I said Vladimir put and they were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: here's the offer, and they slid it across the table.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a scene ow of the movie. And
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  Speaker 3: I opened it.
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  Speaker 1: It was I mean, it was seven figures and I literally,
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  Speaker 1: I literally number tell me what seven figures means? Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember that it was well over a million per year?
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  Speaker 1: But it was a multi year deal, so it was like.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a million one, a million nine, Like I.
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  Speaker 1: Can't remember if it was like I want to say
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  Speaker 1: again a long time. I want to say it was
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  Speaker 1: like a million two or three. And that was their
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  Speaker 1: first offer per year. And so I leave the meeting
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, look, I'm not going to do it,
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  Speaker 1: but things, I just think about it and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it, but things they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you ever want to come as a guest or
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  Speaker 1: if you ever change your mind. So I leave and
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  Speaker 1: I called John Ashcroft at the time, he was the
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  Speaker 1: former Turity general. I was like, John, I just got
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  Speaker 1: offered money from Vladimir Putin. He was like started chuckling,
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  Speaker 1: like Santa. He was like Russia today. I was like, yay.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you're like the eighth person's called me today
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  Speaker 1: to tell me the last week they're getting an offer
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  Speaker 1: from russiaday because they're trying to legitimize themselves in America
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  Speaker 1: for their propaganda.
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  Speaker 3: And then they were on.
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  Speaker 1: TV until they invaded Ukraine and then Artie like fired
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  Speaker 1: everybody in America. But I knew people that took the
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  Speaker 1: money and got rich, like I knew like legitiularly, like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: take the Russian cash, like no problem. That is by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the reason why I bring it up is
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: because with Tucker Carlson, when everybody's like, well, there is
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  Speaker 1: there really money to be made to be like anti
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  Speaker 1: America anti Yes, there is lots of money that people
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: are getting paid. I don't know who's getting paid, but
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are getting paid.
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  Speaker 3: So just know that money.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, we know that a foreign funders for
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  Speaker 2: US universities. Yeah, the number one country in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it is? Is it China? Nope?
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  Speaker 3: Really, Russia nope?
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  Speaker 2: Iran nope?
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  Speaker 3: All right, who is it?
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  Speaker 2: Cutter?
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  Speaker 3: Oh that okay, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Six point six billion dollars with a B.
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  Speaker 1: Six point six billion comes from cut to our universities,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: to our universities.
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  Speaker 2: You want to know why our universities are so rabidly
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: anti American, so rabidly anti Semitics, so rabidly anti Israel,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: so rabidly anti capitalism, so rapidly Look you look at
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the anti Semitic protests that we had on college campuses
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  Speaker 2: all across the country. Yeah, did any of you notice
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  Speaker 2: that the tents all matched?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: And to be clear cutter, by the way, it's been
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  Speaker 2: publicly reported, they hired spies to spy on me. They
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  Speaker 2: view me as their biggest opponent in Washington, and listen,
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  Speaker 2: it's very simple. I don't have anything against the Kutaris
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  Speaker 2: other than they welcome and host. Hold, let me finish this,
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  Speaker 2: Let me finish this. I don't have anything against the
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  Speaker 2: Kataris other than that they welcome and host the senior
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  Speaker 2: leadership of Hamas. They live like billionaires, They live in
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  Speaker 2: lavish luxury. They support Hamas, they encourage Hamas, They fund
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  Speaker 2: Israel haters, America haters, communists, people tearing America down. They
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  Speaker 2: propagandize our kids. I'm perfectly happy to welcome the Qataris
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  Speaker 2: into the society of civilized nation if they will stop
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  Speaker 2: funding people trying to destroy America. And I don't take
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  Speaker 2: it kindly when you write lots of checks to people
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  Speaker 2: who hate American or trying to destroy our nation. I
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  Speaker 2: view that as less than friendly content.
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  Speaker 1: to know. And this is the comment Ted's life is
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  Speaker 1: very boring. Sometimes he really is methodical.
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  Speaker 3: It's not there's nothing exciting happening there.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I just want to be calling right like a can
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: can I tell a story? And it's a story some
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of our podcast listeners will will will remember. So back
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, when I'm running for president and it's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: it's getting down to to the end of the race,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and it's me and Donald trumpet where neck and neck.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And in that race, I won twelve states, Trump won
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: twenty four, and no other Republican won more than a
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: single state Kaiseiquan, Ohio, Rubio one Minnesota, and Trump and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I won every other state in the country. And in
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the course of that campaign, there was a story that
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: broke in the National Inquirer that said I was having
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: five simultaneous affairs and this is front page, big story.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Cruise caught yes, and look, men, you know my wife, Heidi,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I do. I had to call Heidi and for anyone married.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Let me say to everyone listening and watching this spot,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: if you're married, I got to tell you, it sucks
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to pick up the phone and call your spouse and
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: say a sweetheart. So there is a front page story
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that is in every checkout aisle of every supermarket in
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: America that said I'm having five simultaneous affairs and I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: adore Heidi. She's my best friend in the world. But
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I was nervous about this call. That is not a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: fun If you had to call on and say that,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that would be a call that sucked. So I make
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the call. Do you know Heidi's reaction?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I know this story and I know exactly reaction,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: which is the best part about the whole story.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Heidi burst into a uporious laughter. She's like doubled over laughing,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and I actually got offended. I'm like, sweetheart, it's not true,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: but damn it, I could. I mean, like, what are
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: you saying? Like like I didn't, but but.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You're that undesirable, That's what she's saying right there. There's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: no way.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: And I gotta say for the Katari spies, I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: they were frustrated because look, I have dinner many nights
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: in DC at Capitol Garrel. You and I have had
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: dinner many times there. Yes, we had my political fact.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: To be clear, I don't think you and I have
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: ever had dinner anywhere else in d C. But there,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that's how Mondane.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: It is okay.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Even exist in DC in that world.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm if you're cheating on anybody.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: It's Capital Grill. That would be the story.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a homebody. Listen. When I was in law school,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I lived in the dorms Hemingway. I lived in Hastings Hall,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: which is a dorm. I lived there three years. Right
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: next to it was Hemingway Gym, and then right next
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to it was Gannett House was the Law Review. That
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: triangle was maybe three hundred yards. I spent almost every
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: waking moment of three years of law school in that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: triangle between my dorm, the gym, and the Law Review.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That was basically I would go to class occasionally, but
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it was essentially that triangle d C. I rarely, like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: like Capgirl is six blocks away from the Capitol. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: rarely go beyond that that that radius. But I will
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: tell you in twenty sixteen, my opponents and more than
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: one of my opponents, was like flashing major chunks of cash,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: trying to get cap grill waiters and waitresses to like
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: rat on me, like running around and getting busy with
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: some Washington lobs.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They were looking for an Easter and Peo don't realize this.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: This is real in politics, Like they.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Go to they're dragging through trying to get.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Me hand out cash to anybody.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: They'll give them a story so they can report it
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: as someone who says in this world.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And I got to say, like, my life is just
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: pretty damn boring on that. And I will tell you
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I actually I want to take a minute. I want
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to speak to the men listening to this podcast. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: want to share some wisdom. So our pastor is Greg Mott,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and actually you now go to our church. You used
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to go to Second Baptist, you now go to First Baptist.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Greg Mott is a wonderful, dear friend. He's a man
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: of God. Before you moved first Pastor, Greg did a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: sermon series. It was like I think six weeks and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: it was on King Dave. And I really enjoyed that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sermon series. King David was remarkable person in the Bible,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and I remember he was covering the chapter on Bestsheba.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And if you remember, King David is standing on the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: roof of his palace and he looks down and he
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: sees Besthsheba, the most beautiful woman in the land, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: he gazes upon her, and he ultimately ends up bringing
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: her in and sending her husband your riot, to the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: front lines and killing him and sleeping with her and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: then marrying her, and and God extracts the price of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: killing her firstborn son, although her next son was King Solomon,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So he did continue the line. But Pastor greg is
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: talking about and he just stops. He says, all right,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to all the men in the congregation.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And he says, you may be.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: By the way, if you're says podcast and you want
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to hear greg Mont's voice, like go listen to one
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: of his sermons, and you'll understand how good he is
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: at delivering these types of lines.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Continue it's and by the way. Pastor Gregg started his ministry.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He was a student at Texas A and M. And
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: he started a little Bible study in his dorm room
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: or his apartment, and it started with a few students.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: It grew into what's called breakaway and he would have
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: ten thousand students a week meeting in the basketball gymnasium.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So where we go to church. First Baptist Church is
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: an institution in Houston. I went there as a little kid.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Doctor John Bassania was the pastor forty years ago and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: he was a Houston institution. By the way, the church
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: was founded. Do you know the story. Do you know
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: where the church was founded? No, So the church was founded.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know the exact year, but Texas was an
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: independent nation between eighteen thirty six and eighteen forty five,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and First Baptist Church of Houston was founded somewhere in
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that nine year period. I don't remember the year. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Pastor Greg said one time, he said, look, this church
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: was actually founded by American missionaries who were coming to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a foreign nation. And the foreign nation was the republ
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Book of Texas. So American nations went from America to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the Republic of Texas and they founded the church. Anyway,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: what he said to the men in the church. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: by the way, so Pastor Greg built up breakaway and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it was getting ten thousand students a week to come
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to this Bible study at A and M. And then
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: when doctor Bassanio retired First Baptist did a search who's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: our new pastor, and they actually found Pastor Greg. He
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: was thirty three years old and they brought him in.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: He'd never pastored to church. He just like led this
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Bible study at A and M. They brought him in
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and he's led. Pastor Greg and I are exactly the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: same age, we're both fifty five, and they brought him in, like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and he's become our pastor. And he is. He's a
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: great pastor. But what I admire most about him is
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: he's incredibly humble. Yes, Like Heidi doesn't like megachurches. She
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: grew up in a very small church in the central
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: coast to California. She likes small, intimate churches where you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: have forty people there on Sunday morning, like like where
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: everyone knows everyone. And First Baptist is a huge church.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: The only reason we go there is because she likes
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Pastor Greg so much that she's just like, all right,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I will endure the larger.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: The larger crowds.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But part of the reason she likes him and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I like him is he is genuinely humble and he's
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a godly man, Like he's a lot of pastors of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: megachurches are are are frankly arrogant. I mean hubris. Look,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: hubris is is.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: They become rock stars in a bubble.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Pride is a temptation in the ministry, It's a temptation
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: in politics, it's a temptation in the media. Like you
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: like it's it's easy when you're surrounded by adulation to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: believe it, and it's hard to resist it. And I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: will say Pastor Greg does an amazing job. He and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I spend every month. Actually something we've started this year
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: which I'm really grateful for. He's begun coming over to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: my house else once a month Sunday afternoons or evenings,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just to have a Bible study and prayer session together,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: which I'm grateful for. But anyway, his David sermon, when
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: he talks about Bethshiev, he says, I want to talk
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to the men in the congregation, and he said, you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: may think you are strong, you may think you have integrity,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you have resolved, and he said, I want to tell
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you when temptation presents itself, run run, just get away.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He said. The mistake David made is he's on the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: roof of his palacies looking down, and he kept watching.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: What David should have done is turn around. And by
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the way, the Bible describes David as a man after
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: God's own heart, and he said, David should have turned
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: around and just gotten himself out of that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: So before we wrap, I want to get back to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: something else political world that I do think is important
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: for us to cover real quick. And that is the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: one thing that the Democrats seem to be being able
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to grab on, and it's saying tangible here is gas prices.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I know you've been around the president, I know you're
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in DC. The President's been pretty clear about this. This
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: is gonna be short term increase. Democrats do seem to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: be latching onto this. Like remember when egg prices is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like a big thing and the putt of world. This
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is the new egg price thing, right, Oh my gosh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump say he's a lower price to the pump
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: for you. Look at it now, Look how bad it is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be you know, ten hours a gallon
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: in California, it's gonna be five six hours gallon everywhere else.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: The President's come out and says it's gonna be short term.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I believe him.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I think also seeing how hard we're hitting a RAN
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: right now is also showing the timeline here that they
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: are wanting to do everything as fast as they can.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Why drag this out, go all in, do it quickly,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: get the pain over with and let those people hopefully
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: rise up and take over a RAN and actually move forward.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Are you that worried about about the gas prices? I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not yet.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Like, if it's three months from now or two months
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: from now, I'm gonna be more worried. But right now
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is exactly on schedule or ahead
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of schedule, as the White House has described it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, look, there's been a short term increase in
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: gas prices, and any time there's a military conflict in
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the Middle East, gas prices go up because a lot
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: of oil comes from the Middle East, and so military
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: conflict has an effect on supplying demand. I think this
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: will be short term. One of the things to remember
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: is so six months ago, gas prices were about I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: don't have the exact number off the top of my head,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: but about two dollars and fifty cents a gallon. Yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: they've risen about a dollar. They are about three dollars
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and fifty cents a gallon. This is national averages. And
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: so it is true that over the last six months
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: gasoline prices have risen. Where were they eighteen months ago
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: under Joe Biden there were nearly six dollars a gallon,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So by any measure, there was massively cheaper than Joe Biden. Yes,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: they've gone up from about two fifty to about three fifty,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But I think this is a short term increase. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I got to say, if and when the Iranian regime collapses,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and by the way, we've utterly degraded their military and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we've taken out the Ittola and the senior military leadership,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: if and when we have a government in Iran that
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: is not a radical theocratic Islamist government who wants to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: murder America, who is funding terrorists all across the world,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: who is actively trying to murder Americans every single day,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: If we have just a normal government, I don't really
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: care who we have, just as long as it's not
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a crazy person killing Americans, the effect on global gas
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: prices will be to lower them significantly. So I actually
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: think this conflict in the long term or even the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: medium term, will have a substantial downward pressure on gasoline prices.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: There's a short period where prices have spiked somewhat, although
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to be clear, they're much much lower than under Biden,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: but they are higher than they were six months ago
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: under Trump. Look, I think the Democrats are attacking gas
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: prices because they hate Trump and they're just everything Trump
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: does is wrong. This is an incredibly important decision that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Trump has made for advancing US national security. And I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: will say part of the reason why, when like I
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: was being questioned on Lindsay Graham, I like Lindsay as
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I said, I agree with him sometimes, I disagree with
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: them sometimes. But what the questioning really was about is
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Isn't the Iran war about Israel? Isn't this all about Israel?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And the suggestion was Israel or as a puppet master
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: controlling Donald Trump. That's just a blatant lie. This military
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: conflict has very little to do with Israel. The reason
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: President Trump decided to attack Iran is because Iran has
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: been waging war with America for forty seven years and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: they've killed nearly a thousand Americans and they're the leading
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: state sponsor of terrorism the world. And so the people
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: trying to say I don't want another war for Israel.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want my children to die for the Jews.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: That is, that is not honest, because we're doing this
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: because the regime in Iran is killing Americans. And to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: be clear, if they had the capacity, if they had
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, they would kill many many more Americans. If
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: they could, they would kill you and me right now, Ben,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: if they could, every listener of this podcast, they would
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: kill If they had a nuclear weapon, I believe there
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: is a real possibility they would detonate it in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: skies of Tel Aviv or New York or Los Angeles.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm not interested in seeing a day where hundreds
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of thousands of Americans are murdered by an iatola channing
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: death to America. That's why President Trump acted. But it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was not about Israel. It was about America, and I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: think we need to be very very clear about that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I also think one of the other things that I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: think is really frustrating is just saying how many people
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: act as if somehow Donald Trump was hoodwinked by Israel
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: for us to get involved in this war.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And you were asked about that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I was asked about as well on TV, and I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: said that is the biggest load of crap I've heard
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: in a long time. President Trump isn't hoodwink by anybody.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: President Trump isn't walked around by anyone. And if you've
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: ever been around him, you know that. I think it
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: goes back to what you just said. The President understood
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the national security risks not to Israel, all right there,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: This is America first, correct, it's America and the national
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: security threat to America, and clear the fact that they're
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: trying to kill and have sent people and train people
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and pay people to try to kill the President of
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the United States of America. Also people in the last administration.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: John Bolton, for example, was one of those. There's several
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: others on this list that have actually have been they've
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: had hits out all O'Brien hook, Yes, exactly, So you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: go with the list here. The President was clear about
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this that this is about America. And I think that's
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: another example when I said there's like four or five
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: working theories Democrats throwing jel at to wall saying does
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: any of this fit with Americans? I also think it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: very interesting and final to you. I don't think the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: American people are buying this, and part of it's because
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think Democrats have just said some of those orlandis
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and crazy things on every issue, tried to hurt Donald Trump.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Now it's becoming a little bit more of white noise,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and that's that I'm thankful for that, to be honest
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's right. And and look, some
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: of the reaction of the voters will depend on how
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: this plays out. If this military conflict lasts many months
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: or years, if we're sitting here a year from now
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and still mired to military conflict, if we've got a
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: massive troop presence on the ground, if we have hundreds
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: or thousands of American soldiers being killed, this war will
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: be very unpopular. Yeah, I think the chances of that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: happening are very very close to zero percent. Iran is
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: not a raq. We're not going to see a massive
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: troop presence on the ground. We're not going to see
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: an extended military occupation. Actually, I want you to listen
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to Pete Hagg said making this point, and we're going
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: to wrap up on this. Listen, listen to the Secretary
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of War, Pete Hegseth.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: You see, this is not two thousand and three, This
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: is not endless nation building under those types of quagmires
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: we saw under Bush or Obama. It's not even close.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again,
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  Speaker 5: and nor will this president, who very clearly ran against
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions. Those days
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: are dead. Instead, we're winning decisively with brutal efficiency, total
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: air dominance, and an unbreakable will to accomplish the President's
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: objectives on our timeline. We stay locked on the target
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: because here at the Department of War, that's our job.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: You listen to Pete there.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons why I actually think
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it was a blessing that he was named and made
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it through confirmation.
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  Speaker 2: He's a guy that he's a combat veteran who's been
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in harm's way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a guy that I think is genuinely
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in the room advocating to make sure that what happened
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to a lot of his colleagues when he was serving
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  Speaker 1: in uniform and deployed, that doesn't happen to this group
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of soldiers now.
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  Speaker 3: And it's clear that this is personal for him.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so thankful that he's there in this
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: position because he lived the other side of it that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he was just describing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Right, Look, avoiding endless wars does not mean embracing isolationism. Yeah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: peace through strength is what Reagan called it. Donald Trump
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: just understands it as being a strong commander in chief
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that when people are killing Americans, he is going to
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: respond vigorously to take them out. And by the way,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: our enemies are terrified. As I've said before, at three
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: am on January third, there was not a Latin American
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: dictator who didn't have to change his shorts because that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: when President Trump sees Nicholas Maduro is happening in Iran.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: The top leadership has been taken out. Every bad guy,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: every person who hates America is really really worried right
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: now because this is a nation that defends itself. And
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: by the way, that makes clear, if you kill Americans,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: there are going to be massive consequences to it. Barack
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Obama and Joe Biden's weakness and appeasement that if you
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: kill Americans, oh well, we're not going to do anything
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: about it. That invites more people to target and kill Americans.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: This is about avoiding war by being strong enough to
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: take out the people that are killing Americans and that
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: avoids protracted military conflict. I think that's what we're seeing
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: right now, and it makes America a whole lot safer.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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