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Deborah Joy Winans Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: musical legacy, her first passion is acting, but you can
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Speaker 1: hear her wonderful singing voice or multiple Grammy Award winning
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Speaker 1: projects including The Mary Mary's The Sound and the Green
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Speaker 1: and the Grammy Award winning green Leaf Soundtrack. She currently
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Speaker 1: starts in the hit TV series green Leaf and plays
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Speaker 1: charity green Leaf Saturn Le. Please welcome the Mighty Megan Conversation.
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Speaker 1: De Joy Winding, are you okay, So it's beautiful. I'm
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Speaker 1: happy you took time. We know it's winding down. Augusty
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Speaker 1: Level is the final day of green Leaf. Before we
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Speaker 1: even get there, just talk about this whole experience, and
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Speaker 1: I also want to talk about that. As you say that,
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to your single, I won't
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Speaker 1: start breathing because I got to talk about that. It
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Speaker 1: drops on the thirty first. I played it five times
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Speaker 1: this morning. I get up at four o'clock, so I
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Speaker 1: have a little time to just listen to great music.
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Speaker 1: So and we're gonna talk about that, but just talk
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Speaker 1: about the whole green Leaf experience and your character arc
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Speaker 1: over that over this period. Yes, wow, thank you. Green
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Speaker 1: Leaf has been a dream, you know, something that you
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Speaker 1: feel like maybe comes once in a lifetime. The way
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Speaker 1: that it happened, I knew it was God. Um. You know.
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Speaker 1: Oprah saw me during a workshop in New York and
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Speaker 1: remembered me from that and called I didn't have an agent.
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Speaker 1: She said, I'll send your stuff to whoever I need
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Speaker 1: to send it to. I believe that you need to
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Speaker 1: audition for this role. I I seen you in this
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Speaker 1: and you know it's okay that nobody knows who you
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Speaker 1: are right now, I've seen you and I just thought, okay, God.
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Speaker 1: It never in a million years that I okay God,
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Speaker 1: but Oprah you know. But but you know, God uses
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Speaker 1: whoever he decides, and the fact that he used her
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Speaker 1: is just mind blowing to me. And so Greenlee was
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Speaker 1: a dream, a joy. It was. It didn't come in
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Speaker 1: the correct order, if you will, what Hollywood things, how
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Speaker 1: you get the roles. You gotta do this first and
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Speaker 1: then you gotta do this. And so it's been an
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Speaker 1: all around incredible experience. I have worked with Keith David
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Speaker 1: and Lynn Whitfield and Oprah Winfrey and Lamon Rutger, just
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Speaker 1: an all star castle so much from the beginning, and
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Speaker 1: Um my character who everybody just is. You know, they
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Speaker 1: they love to hate her and they hate to love her. Um,
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Speaker 1: but I think that she's real. And she saw her
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Speaker 1: grow up like you saw her Um learned from her mistakes.
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Speaker 1: You saw become a woman. You saw her Um fall
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Speaker 1: down and keep getting back up and being strong and
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Speaker 1: being strong strong. She is a fighter and she will
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Speaker 1: not allow anyone, not her parents, that her siblings, no
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Speaker 1: one to hold her hostice to her past mistakes. You know,
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Speaker 1: this is really amazing. You know, Laman, I know very well.
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Speaker 1: I've had him on the show Land. I've had on
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Speaker 1: the show she Enjoedy Keith, which just recently on the
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Speaker 1: show and the show premiered, And but your character has
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Speaker 1: been a compelling character for me. That character were talking
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Speaker 1: about this as charity because she's falling down and then
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Speaker 1: this then it looks like she's a trader. Then it
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Speaker 1: looks like she doesn't understand emotionally, she looked like she's
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Speaker 1: about to find love, and then then she's then it's
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Speaker 1: then that's traded off into a bad situation. And so
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Speaker 1: but you stood your ground with your character, and I
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Speaker 1: just love the way you're being brought back into the family,
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Speaker 1: the family, and I like the way the season is
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Speaker 1: allowed to say that everybody has flaws and that's what
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Speaker 1: life feels about. And so you can't point a finger
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Speaker 1: like the other thing to say. If you point a finger,
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Speaker 1: somebody remember another part of that hand is pointing back
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Speaker 1: at you. And I look at that character, I go, wow,
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Speaker 1: So now this is this season here, But it has
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Speaker 1: been special because of the fact that you know, we
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Speaker 1: thought you was about to meet the man of your
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Speaker 1: dreams and he left your charity. He left for the
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Speaker 1: skinny white lady. Whoa oh my god, oh my god.
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Speaker 1: You and you're playing well on to chair every time
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Speaker 1: you look at it. Every time you look at it,
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Speaker 1: look like to see you got enough meat on her bones?
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Speaker 1: Every time you look at it. Man, can you go,
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Speaker 1: can you look at the last night without watching you
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Speaker 1: when you walked in that office and you go, you
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Speaker 1: need to talk to your dad. You need to talk
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Speaker 1: to your father yourself. Yeah, But you know the thing
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Speaker 1: about it is you when when I look at your character,
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Speaker 1: what surprised you the most? When you Okay, you got
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to play this role, all right, you you
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Speaker 1: were a newbie. You didn't have the resumes that everybody
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Speaker 1: else had when you walked up to the set. How
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Speaker 1: did you really start feeling comfortable about yourself in the
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Speaker 1: process of developing this character and accepting the responsibilities of
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Speaker 1: being this character Charity? Well, this is what I will say, Um,
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Speaker 1: when you do do your work and uh, and you're
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Speaker 1: in Hollywood and you continuously get a lot of nose,
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Speaker 1: stay consistent in doing your work because when you do
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Speaker 1: get that, yes, the work will be there to to
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Speaker 1: allow you to stand, Paul, and so I got comfortable. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I went there and send my comfortable because I know
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Speaker 1: my gifts, I know what I can do. I know
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Speaker 1: the training that I've gone through, I know the hours
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Speaker 1: that I've put in. But when we did the first
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Speaker 1: day of shooting Season one, we did that table then,
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Speaker 1: and that was my first time with Keith, that was
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Speaker 1: my first time with everybody, and Oprah was there, and
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Speaker 1: uh we did my close up. I was the second
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Speaker 1: person to get a close up and my fourth take,
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Speaker 1: I nailed that thing. And when they called cut, Oprah
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Speaker 1: came over to me crying and she said, that's it.
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Speaker 1: That was it, that was it, and she said I'm done.
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Speaker 1: And when I knew that, she didn't regret, not for
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Speaker 1: a moment, the decision she made to champion me, even
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Speaker 1: when people said I didn't have it. I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm good. Now let's get in here and let's work,
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Speaker 1: let's grow, let's learn. I'm There's no way I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna grow when I'm sitting next to someone like Keith
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Speaker 1: David and Lynn with Field. But at that point I
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Speaker 1: was ready to not just do my work, but to
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Speaker 1: learn and to keep growing um. That's that's when I
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Speaker 1: got comfortable and then learning all of the sides of charity.
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Speaker 1: Charity is so multifact of it, and she's so many things,
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Speaker 1: and she's she's a single mom, she's been through so
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Speaker 1: much and she's just real. She's really real and relatable.
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Speaker 1: Were very relatable, and I want to talk about because
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to this because I'm not through
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Speaker 1: with anybody listening. I'm not through a greedly. But when
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Speaker 1: you have a last name named Winy's okay, you just
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Speaker 1: remember that's w I n a n okay. That is
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Speaker 1: a legacy of music because I know BB and I
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Speaker 1: know CC the show, and so you gotta be able
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Speaker 1: to sing even you can't say. You gotta make up
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Speaker 1: some notes like you can sing, find an instrument, some drums.
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Speaker 1: So something got the music related when you got wine
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Speaker 1: I Won't Stop Breathing, and it's dedicated to the victims
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Speaker 1: of racial violence, including George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, Trayvon Martin
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Speaker 1: has inspired all these incredible changes that we're about. But
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Speaker 1: I won't stop breathing at the I just want to
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Speaker 1: quote something at the very front, so James Baldwin quote
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Speaker 1: that you have at the very front of the video.
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Speaker 1: To be a Negro in this country and to be
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Speaker 1: relatively conscious is to be enraged almost all the time.
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Speaker 1: That's an amazing statement because as a black man, uh
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Speaker 1: Ball wanted to lead off your video, and you close
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Speaker 1: about that whole sequence of putting this together. Then we
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Speaker 1: talked through the to the through the lines of the
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Speaker 1: of the song. Because I'm a lyricist and I love
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Speaker 1: listening to great music. Talk to us. Um, yes, I
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Speaker 1: won't stop breathing. It's you know, we went through a
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Speaker 1: a hard time and I recognized that the pandemic of
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Speaker 1: the coronavirus is still going on. But really all that
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Speaker 1: did to me and I just God makes no mistakes.
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Speaker 1: This whole world got shut down and everybody had to
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Speaker 1: watch what was really happening to black people around this country,
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Speaker 1: and nobody could turn a blind I nobody could say, well,
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Speaker 1: of the black lights. And um, for me, it awakened
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Speaker 1: It just hurt and so um. After a couple of
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Speaker 1: I got into the shower and it just hit me.
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Speaker 1: I said, oh my god. I grabbed my husband. I said,
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Speaker 1: that's the song that I just said a demo for.
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Speaker 1: I won't stop breathing? Oh I barely did I U.
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Speaker 1: I was crying because we shot, we the stuff of me,
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Speaker 1: kept telling my husband like, well, I can't. I need
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Speaker 1: a second because thinking about it makes me angry. Thinking
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Speaker 1: about it hurts my heart. Thinking about it is like,
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Speaker 1: oh God, why are there so many names? And so
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Speaker 1: I didn't hold it together. I broke down several times
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Speaker 1: and um, but that's that's where we are. And I
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Speaker 1: to get we don't you know, like this is an
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Speaker 1: when they when the videos started coming into you? How
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Speaker 1: how did that feel to you when you saw Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, it blessed my heart to know that I
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Speaker 1: had people that really are my friends, really are there
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Speaker 1: for me whatever you need, um, And it was just
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Speaker 1: a sign that we are all together. In this, and
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Speaker 1: that's what I tell people. It doesn't matter if you
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Speaker 1: white people are reacting to this. You know, Black people,
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Speaker 1: we've been angry. We were born angry, Okay, we've been mad.
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Speaker 1: We've been dealing with a stomach racism blade racism of
19:43
Speaker 1: all types since based on our color, the color of
19:45
Speaker 1: our skids. Always tell peop when I walking around, weren't black, man,
19:47
Speaker 1: I'm black? You you you can be white and you
19:51
Speaker 1: can be different things. And you know, so that's understood.
19:54
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts when you see that? To me,
19:56
Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I know that they're they're they're
19:59
Speaker 1: put anticipating. I'm happy they're angry because of the fact
20:02
Speaker 1: that there can be no change unless they see there's
20:05
Speaker 1: a need for change. Absolutely, there can be no change
20:10
Speaker 1: unless they see the need. Um. But don't if the
20:14
Speaker 1: gloves are off. I'm not going to baby you. I'm not.
20:18
Speaker 1: I don't have white friends calling me talking about what
20:21
Speaker 1: can I do? Go do some research. Stop talking to
20:24
Speaker 1: me about talking. I'm done trying to hold your hands
20:27
Speaker 1: through this. No, you need to hold my hand and
20:30
Speaker 1: having my back. You go do the work and you
20:33
Speaker 1: figure out a way that you can help, and you
20:35
Speaker 1: can lend that that privilege that you have been born
20:39
Speaker 1: with to the cause they figure out a way. That's
20:43
Speaker 1: Mr Trum Michigan talking right there, Mr Trump talker, right there. Girl,
20:47
Speaker 1: Come on, there's nothing wrong with that. And that's why
20:51
Speaker 1: you know and and and and he's seeing this. You know,
20:54
Speaker 1: I brought you on the show to talk about green Leaf,
20:57
Speaker 1: and then they told me about this video and this
20:59
Speaker 1: song that was dry up in this Friday July through
21:01
Speaker 1: the first I'm gonna tell you to tell you people
21:03
Speaker 1: to send me banners. So I got almost a million
21:05
Speaker 1: social media followers that have fan clubs and all this
21:08
Speaker 1: NAT present of my followers are female, and so I
21:11
Speaker 1: want to drop it on Friday. He's dropping on Friday.
21:13
Speaker 1: I wish Sean mcdonne wants to drop in on his
21:15
Speaker 1: social media on Friday two. That's that's my blessing. That's
21:18
Speaker 1: the blessing of this relationship, in this brand that I
21:20
Speaker 1: have because I'm doing this for free, because you know,
21:23
Speaker 1: God has given me a gift and Elaine. Now, Elaine
21:26
Speaker 1: to talk to people the way I want to talk
21:28
Speaker 1: and ensure them that I am there for you. Now,
21:31
Speaker 1: with that being said, you close the video with a
21:34
Speaker 1: message from former President Barack Obama. Tell us about that. Well,
21:40
Speaker 1: I think that's the light. I think that that is um.
21:44
Speaker 1: You know, once we get past that sort of hurting
21:47
Speaker 1: place and that rage, um, we we end on the
21:52
Speaker 1: fact that we recognize that there is evil in this world,
21:57
Speaker 1: but we can overcome that we can. And he represents
22:03
Speaker 1: so much to us, not only his his wisdom, but
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Speaker 1: the fact that he was our first slex president. The
22:11
Speaker 1: fact that he's been the fact that he's done that,
22:14
Speaker 1: the fact that people like John Lewis were ave gotten
22:18
Speaker 1: so they were able to see that comes to fruition
22:22
Speaker 1: that we we've come away. We've got a ways to go.
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Speaker 1: But my God, we had President Barack Obama, and to me,
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Speaker 1: he represents hope. Girl. I invited the right come on,
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Speaker 1: please please because you know, because because that whold John
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Speaker 1: Lewis thing, you know, it's it's it's when I see
22:46
Speaker 1: years old, when he was seventeen years old, he met
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Speaker 1: Rosa Parks, when he was eighteen years old, he met
22:52
Speaker 1: Dr mart Luther King, twenty years old, he had the
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Speaker 1: courage to walk over a bridge he's not a big
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Speaker 1: man now and walk into that. I don't know emotionally
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Speaker 1: how fast my heart would have been beaten. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I'd been that that and that close to
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Speaker 1: the front, Okay, But to see that moment and to
23:10
Speaker 1: see him get to walk along in d C and
23:14
Speaker 1: that black lives matter, all that they've created, it's a
23:18
Speaker 1: testament that God allowed him to see that experience that
23:22
Speaker 1: be a part of that because he he was at
23:24
Speaker 1: the last stage, because he was really for Ail. You
23:27
Speaker 1: can see physically he had lost a lot of weight,
23:29
Speaker 1: but he made that trip like he made all those
23:31
Speaker 1: trips for us. And now your song is another song
23:36
Speaker 1: is making a trip. It's part of the bigger perspective.
23:38
Speaker 1: We don't have individual leaders, but Debora, you are a leader.
23:42
Speaker 1: You are a person who has woke up one day
23:45
Speaker 1: and say, look, it's not about fame. It's about how
23:47
Speaker 1: I feel. And social media allows me to be able
23:50
Speaker 1: to communicate my voice in a positive manner and remind
23:54
Speaker 1: people it's not about you being my fan. It's about
23:56
Speaker 1: we can all make a difference. And this song about
23:58
Speaker 1: it's about you. I don't want you to make that difference.
24:01
Speaker 1: And I want to say thank you for that part.
24:03
Speaker 1: Thank you on that part. Now let's get back to
24:05
Speaker 1: Green Leave before we wrap up here, because it's two
24:07
Speaker 1: episodes left. I would say a little little little assessment
24:10
Speaker 1: of me about Green Leap, strong female characters. And I'm
24:14
Speaker 1: talking to Pastor because she wants to be a pastor.
24:17
Speaker 1: You know it, go now, Pastor Charity Green That's what
24:20
Speaker 1: she wants to be. Not everybody need to know that
24:22
Speaker 1: she is fighting to be seen for who she is
24:25
Speaker 1: despite anyone else's thought or feeling is about her. That
24:29
Speaker 1: who that I felt that character is. And then you
24:32
Speaker 1: have other dynamic characters who play a different role like
24:36
Speaker 1: Rochelle and Tyra about the house. And so when I
24:40
Speaker 1: look at it, because when I had land on the show,
24:42
Speaker 1: I said, you know, rarely do you see shows like this,
24:44
Speaker 1: whether we have male characters, but this show is really
24:47
Speaker 1: about females and their perspective and their role that they
24:51
Speaker 1: play in the dominance that they have in our world today.
24:56
Speaker 1: And that that really that really drove home to me
24:58
Speaker 1: the journey did your care because you know, you have to,
25:01
Speaker 1: like I had to pull your spirit up and be
25:04
Speaker 1: able to deal with, you know, the male female relationships.
25:08
Speaker 1: There's the sister brother relationship, but also the relationship and
25:12
Speaker 1: have this character becoming what it is today because I
25:14
Speaker 1: love the character I've always I always enjoyed because it's real.
25:17
Speaker 1: But also I have mistakes in my life and so
25:20
Speaker 1: and I have to deal with it. And so you
25:22
Speaker 1: had to deal with it in a famous family we
25:24
Speaker 1: talked about the show now, because you you deal with
25:26
Speaker 1: in the real life too, because in your name and
25:29
Speaker 1: so so that's why when I when I see that
25:31
Speaker 1: open looked at you. She You know, this was a
25:34
Speaker 1: very relatable story from the standpoint of you know, it's gospel. Okay,
25:39
Speaker 1: you're famous. Okay, we're gonna have you over the choir.
25:42
Speaker 1: You can sing. So so this character has been brilliantly
25:46
Speaker 1: designed for you. It's not the it's not you know
25:48
Speaker 1: you say. It's a wonderful blessing and opportunity your life.
25:51
Speaker 1: Believe me when I say this to you, that God
25:53
Speaker 1: has some great things that are gonna happen to you
25:55
Speaker 1: because you are atalitied girl. You atality you. Thank you.
26:00
Speaker 1: I appreciate that I received it, and you should receive
26:03
Speaker 1: this as well. That moment last night when all three
26:06
Speaker 1: of you guys would like laughing, I'm talking about grace
26:09
Speaker 1: of g if you want to call it that, Jacob
26:12
Speaker 1: and y'all, that was that was unique to me because
26:16
Speaker 1: I think for me in the series, that was the
26:19
Speaker 1: that was the journey that you all came to realize
26:22
Speaker 1: that mom is flawed, so we can relax. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
26:29
Speaker 1: And that's when we were able to really see each
26:32
Speaker 1: other for who we are through the beauty in our flaws,
26:35
Speaker 1: see the beauty in our differences, and and be good
26:38
Speaker 1: with it, be okay with it because lady because Lady
26:41
Speaker 1: May was all over poled Jacob poel Jacobs, Well, he
26:44
Speaker 1: just thought she was she was a female Jesus, the
26:47
Speaker 1: way he was talking to her. He just said, I
26:49
Speaker 1: can't understand you. You pull up at the car, what's
26:51
Speaker 1: going on? What's going on about? And she make that
26:56
Speaker 1: statement and stuff like that. So and now we have
26:58
Speaker 1: a different we have a we have two episodes left.
27:01
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you real anything. Rashwan knows the show, okay,
27:04
Speaker 1: I know. I know Sophia. You know she didn't put
27:07
Speaker 1: the little the little pictures out there online. How the
27:09
Speaker 1: mama know about that? I know about the little board,
27:11
Speaker 1: the little son. You know, he got HIV. He's dealing
27:15
Speaker 1: with that. Looked like his spirits are coming up because
27:17
Speaker 1: he's getting g t O car designed with you know,
27:20
Speaker 1: with the bishop, and they may lose the house and
27:23
Speaker 1: all these good stuff. We find out that Bob is
27:25
Speaker 1: a rip off audience, been ripping off black people for
27:28
Speaker 1: years with predatory lending. And then Zara, she wants to
27:31
Speaker 1: leave New York because of possible divorce between mom and dad.
27:35
Speaker 1: And then where do where do you fall? In all
27:38
Speaker 1: of this, my dear, as we go to the Finches
27:41
Speaker 1: line Augusty level. By the way, Fernando is a thu.
27:47
Speaker 1: Fernando's a thug, A total for sure. The finish line,
27:54
Speaker 1: I think, I think what you find is that the
27:58
Speaker 1: family will recognize there you go for the first time
28:02
Speaker 1: in all these years, that they are much better to
28:05
Speaker 1: get them than they are with their own separate ideas
28:10
Speaker 1: and circumstances and desires. They are better together. They come
28:15
Speaker 1: back together, they come back to the foundation of who
28:18
Speaker 1: they are. They come back to their love for each
28:22
Speaker 1: other and their love for God, and and that's the
28:25
Speaker 1: way to to move forward. And I think that that
28:29
Speaker 1: is the beauty of how um we kind of complete
28:36
Speaker 1: this journey. Family understands that family is first right now.
28:41
Speaker 1: To my understand, you have another project that's coming up,
28:43
Speaker 1: another movie project they're coming up. I do. I'm actually
28:46
Speaker 1: here filming now. Come on. I told you told your
28:50
Speaker 1: blesses were coming. I told you, I told you you did,
28:53
Speaker 1: you did, and I received it. Um, you know, it's
28:56
Speaker 1: it's really really amazing. I'm not allowed to talk about it, okay,
28:59
Speaker 1: no problem, but super grateful as an amazing cast, amazing director,
29:04
Speaker 1: and uh, something very very different from charity, So I'm
29:07
Speaker 1: super excited for everyone to check it out. Well, all
29:10
Speaker 1: I know is that you you know, you can your
29:14
Speaker 1: brilliant singer, You can definitely act, you stay in the course,
29:18
Speaker 1: you know and UH and believe that the path that
29:21
Speaker 1: this show is presented to you has created a fan
29:23
Speaker 1: base for you. UH also created a base for you
29:27
Speaker 1: to be able to announce how you feel and you
29:30
Speaker 1: can put it on video or put it in the song. Again,
29:33
Speaker 1: the finale of Green Leaf is augustly level, but more importantly,
29:37
Speaker 1: Friday July thirty four, tell us about that song and
29:41
Speaker 1: why we should why we should buy it? Do you?
29:47
Speaker 1: Friday July First, I Won't Stop Leaving is my new single.
29:52
Speaker 1: I think if you feel like you need any piece
29:55
Speaker 1: of hope, it is something that you should grab. It
29:58
Speaker 1: allow you to feel, it will allow you to hell
30:02
Speaker 1: We're More importantly, it allowed me to understand that people
30:06
Speaker 1: like you can take the time and fame is interesting
30:09
Speaker 1: because of some of the things that we find ourselves
30:12
Speaker 1: are being distracted. Like you said, you're about to you
30:14
Speaker 1: know you you're doing the press. This is basically a
30:16
Speaker 1: press junket right now talking about talking about you talking
30:19
Speaker 1: about your upcoming single. Then also you're setting of a
30:22
Speaker 1: new movie that you can't talk about. Then you also
30:24
Speaker 1: have to have a balanced life that you have to
30:26
Speaker 1: deal with, deal with the pandemic, you got to deal
30:28
Speaker 1: with being black in America. But for you just say hey,
30:31
Speaker 1: you know so, Rashan, I just want to let everybody
30:33
Speaker 1: know I care, and I also let everybody know I
30:35
Speaker 1: do feel there's the situation that we all live in,
30:39
Speaker 1: not just me, because you know, we all have a
30:41
Speaker 1: slice of life where we live a little bit better
30:43
Speaker 1: than other people, but we all should be treated as
30:46
Speaker 1: the same. Man. I just want to thank you for
30:48
Speaker 1: coming on the show, Devil and keep and keep living
30:52
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30:57
Speaker 1: I love you. I know I called you the last
30:58
Speaker 1: minute to be on this show, and the fact you
31:00
Speaker 1: showed up let you know you believe in Rashawn because
31:02
Speaker 1: I had something to tell you, girl, and I appreciate
31:06
Speaker 1: your brother. Thank you for having me safe. Now we
31:08
Speaker 1: talk soon and when this movie come out, and when
31:10
Speaker 1: you come back on and we talked about this movie, okay, absolutely,
31:13
Speaker 1: and tell them to send me the information so I
31:15
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31:17
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31:21
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