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2 Maccabees Chapter 8: Bible Study by Atheists · Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists

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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wife.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what we're doing today?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's been a while, first of all.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It has.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've kind of sucked to get in the podcast up lately.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We have, I believe there used to be this thing called fucking February.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that one we can't use that excuse now though.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No, but it's March now, but you know, all through February was sucking.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Motherfucking March.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, now it's March.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was just trying to think when I excuse for the first week here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, anyway, anyway, last time we did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Last time we did an episode though, it was a second chat, a second macabees chapter seven.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it's quite quiet.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And in that chapter, it was terrible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was fucking terrible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was seven brothers.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: for seven brides?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, they got tortured in front of Friday and frying pans.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It was so bad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And they all, they all chose to do it because instead of instead of choosing not to do it, because, you know, pork and stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was, I'm, and apparently they're God and, and, and I'm like, nope, I'm not frying in no fucking frying pan.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just have such a hard time with that lake.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a friend who is Muslim.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought if I asked him about this story, what would his response be like?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I thought how mean it would be to ask him like would you
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  [SPEAKER_03]: eat pork, if it meant watching.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But then I thought, why would I want to ask him that and put him in the position of how he can just eat that?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the story is like set up to be a show of how virtuous and how God people are, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're willing to fry in a fucking frying pan, get their tongues pulled out, and all the other shit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And are you?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to state this here and now that me not giving a shit about God and not believing in God, obviously it's easy for me to say, right, I'm not going to eat the fucking pork and I'm not going to fry in the friday, but some people have very, you know, strong faith.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was trying to think is there something equivalent, like this has really been plaguing me since that last episode is there's something equivalent where if they said if you don't do this, we're playing your, you know, siblings,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, it wouldn't, it definitely would not revolve around a god or something like that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, okay, you know, would you eat a bug?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, of course I would.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Would you stick your hand in a box of snakes?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not happily, but I would.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you put on a magic cap?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I would.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to torture and peel the skin off of my child, I'm, yeah, I would do.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, of course I would.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a easy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, if they were between you putting on a
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I mean, I don't want to die, I'll sell my soul, shit, I don't give a fuck.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't, I don't have to do it happily.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't tell me I had to do it happily and enthusiastically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, I don't, I'm just, but no, I think that's what, I think that's what that, that's what that chapter made me think about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Where's that line for a dress to this, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Where's that line for everybody else?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And just like, it kind of, because you know, we've dealt with things in the history where we've had people like go on suicide missions for their college or whatever.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Fucking, what is that other term for people that fly into buildings?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was Kamakaze.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The people that are willing to die for their faith.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Marders.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Marders.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're willing to martyr themselves for their faith.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I've never done that, but, you know, obviously it's a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even have that like in a vengeance way, like, again, this is easy for me to say, but I, like, let's say that there was somebody or a country even that like murdered somebody that I love.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, I had the opportunity to like hop into a plane and like apply into the
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, like I don't even have that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even have that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have Seems kind of pointless to that point now.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like no vengeance is a dish served cold and Joy is the best vengeance living a happy life is the best
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Revenge.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, more over.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think a God that makes you go through that to show how much you love that God is this kind of terrible There's a terrible God anyway.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That was that was second Mac.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We used chapter seven.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's buck one which means that today We're getting into second Mac and doodles chapter eight.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You ready to do this?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-oh Gidoki.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh Gidoki.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: There we go
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, we are hopping into second mecca doodles chapter is all right But Judas but Judas you know Judas yeah, you know Macabay is yeah Who is also called Macabay is mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and those who were with him making their way secretly into the villages Calling together their kindred
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're raising a rebellion here, huh?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Get up, get out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Get up, get up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is after Antioch has killed the people in the cave and you know, fried people up and stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, things are starting to look pretty bad.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, maybe we do fight on some things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Enlisting those who I continued in the juices is religion, they gather together about 6,000.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: okay they called upon the Lord to look at the people who were oppressed by all and do have compassion on the sanctuary that had been profaned by the ungodly men yeah and they had pity on the city
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be in the pool, can't be the city.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That was suffering ruin and ready to be leveled to the ground and to listen to the blood that cried out to him and to remember the lawless destruction of the innocent infants.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to that part time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The innocent and, yeah, yeah, I see.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: See?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And concerning the blasphemies that had been committed against his name and to show his hatred of wickedness.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: OK. As you know, God does love to hate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've always learned.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hatred's right up there with, oh, I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: With that love shit.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I only love love love, man, I hate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what fun to hate, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I learned.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I learned.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At least in my lifetime.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I started off thinking that everybody loved everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And like we all got along, you know, thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then as I've gotten older, I realized that everybody likes to actually hate everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because if it bleeds at leeds, well, and clickbait, and click rage, and, you know, rogue rage.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: All the things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's much easier to motivate people to act on anger,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Then joy and love.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pity on the city.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That ain't pretty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That ain't pretty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That pity on the city.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Those innocent infants.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of shitty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of shitty.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: What macabees had trained his men for service?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What pity?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: the he's in at once, but you can't say pity when it's I mean, it was, I, yeah, I know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I fucked that up.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You can't rhyme.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But you can't just let me have that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, right along, you know.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I could have, but then people would be saying it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I want them to know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They'd be like, all that, that husband, he's so stupid.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And now, like, I don't want them to think that, like, I'm not going down with you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I will absolutely shove you under the bacon bus.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: When Maccabee has had trained his men for service, the heathen at once found him irresistible for the wrath of the Lord was turning into mercy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Where?
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to read that again, because I- I didn't.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't follow that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever he didn't do to him.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: When Maccabees had trained his men for service the he then at once found him irresistible for the wrath of the Lord was turning into mercy Oh, they're like the he then's are going damn look the Lord's help and even other he then's Oh, like the Lord's help.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm so like I like you now, dude.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're cool.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the way he then's are he then they just switch it up
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  [SPEAKER_03]: they either believe in a different God or no God.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you believe in a different God, you definitely just change Willie Nilly to a different way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, especially what I mean.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't believe in God, suddenly you're like, oh man, this guy's winning.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe in God now.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say somebody walking on the street with six thousand troops with him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's much the same as going to the frying pan.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How am I going to be like?
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, yeah, I'll be cool, man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be cool.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not going to find him irresistible, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I'm going to find living irresistible.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to, because I don't want to die, still.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I find irresistible my next breath.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, no, dying.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Coming without warning, that's the best way to come.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was taking a fucking drink and I heard you read that line.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh my god, wife is going to go off about this a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because because coming with that warning, I mean, you know, it was like, why do they have to be in there?
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of, that could have not been in there.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, just like you're just sitting there and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, like, is that what it means for like,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: like there's no, oh, face, there's no like, oh, oh, no, there's no lead up, right?
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's just, you're just like laying there and, you know, doing pound town and stuff.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then, and then all of a sudden, you're like, and done.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's coming without warning.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate your services and goodbye.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I say to you good day.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Get out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so come in without warning.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He set fires to cities and villages, but not the rain, but not the rain.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He was going to say that if he didn't.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But he did set fire to cities and villages.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he did not pity the city.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And but with if they're in Jerusalem, which cities and and stuff as he said in fire, too.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we've not fucking.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Or is it like just like sections of the city?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The city, the city, the multiple cities.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the city is to city.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's taking six dollars a year.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's on his tour, and he's making a, he's all kinds of fires to all cities and villages.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a t-shirt.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Never thing with all the cities are in.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how mega-do.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And when he backed the most important positions, putting to flight, no small number of the enemies, he especially took advantage of the nights for such assaults.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: His courage was loudly talked of everywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that guy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He's got so much fucking courage, man.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how they come out.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then you've got the odds with them and stuff.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, I finally get me a resistable.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: How old you has been?
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't over there.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's totally fine.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks he's sexy.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm too sexy for this city.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when Philip, Philip saw the man gaining ground little by little, and increasing more and more in his success, he wrote to told me the governor of Colissaria and Phoenicia that he should support the King's cause.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you eat it?
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps you should support the King's cause.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Love me.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this guy over here is getting a bit too powerful.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me quickly, appointed Nick and Laura, the son of Patrick Liss, one of the King's chief friends and sent him in command of no fewer than 20,000 of all nations.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot more than 6,000 of them.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: To destroy the whole race of Judea.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Damn.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we call a genocide of friends when you set out to destroy the whole race of fill in the blank.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that is not okay.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even if...
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: they are acting like fucking clean-ons or whatever, like, I don't know.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't, I can't, I can't have that said without pointing out what's happening today a little bit, because you know, Israel's kind of switched the script a bit.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna leave it at that for now because you know, I mean, the United States blew up a little girl school then was like, what are you even doing when Iran was like, hey, I'm gonna go now bomb all of your bases nearby and all these various countries and we're like, what are you even doing?
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you dare like, um, how do you think?
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm not, and I don't think that the people that were in charge of Iran are good people.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Straight to the imagination, but there was, that's what I mean.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: My opinion, better ways to handle this.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't make me, don't make me defend Iran.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fuckers, right?
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't, don't put me in that shitty position.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's like, that's like, that's like, if, if my fucking axe that I divorced with Malice, if that's like, that's like, if he can't, cannot do somebody's like, jumping off his fingers and I'm like, don't make me defend my axe!
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Stop cutting off this fingers.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like him, but I don't want you to chop all this fucking fingers.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Come on!
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't make me defend yuckyness, please.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm saying.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And free Palestine, even though that's a different conversation, but it's a really, I don't know.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if it's all one conversation, it's all part of the United States and is real and bed together and it's gross, you know?
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, blah, blah, blah, destroy the whole race of Judea.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: With him, he joined Georges.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Georges?
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or, or, or Gorgias?
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or Gias?
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like Georges.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I like pretending as it's a bunch, right?
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: That didn't exist back then, yeah, you know.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Georges.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: With him, he joined Georges also a captain and one who had experience in matters of war.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say at this point, we all have experience in matters of war because we watch people get blowed up on TV.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not the same?
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's almost like we don't have experience
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Resolved by the sale of the captive Jews to, you know, the way you sell people, you know, I guess.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he, well, I mean, he got a money so that that helped resolve him maybe because he was richer, I mean, I don't know.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was excited.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I feel better.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm resolved myself.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to, I'm resolved to the notion of selling the captive Jews to make up for the king the tribute of 2000 talents, which he was to pay to the Romans.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Remember this was about, you know, you had fun raising your pigs?
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: The way,
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: the way it is right now today still.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: fundraising.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: For Trump, you know, sure.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: For his goal, I don't think he's, he's not selling slaves though.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not mad directly.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, there, there was questions about, um, the sex slave trade.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that, but that's, you know, a legend stuff.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, whatever.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's not get sued.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, heavy.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly, our president was involved in selling young girls.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And allegedly, he was fucking them and eating their babies.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Allegedly.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: he's gross, but factually he's orange and stupid.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a fact.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a fact.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also factually he is a convicted felon.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: True.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Factual.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I think he probably has a stinky butt.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I heard rumors about that.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I asked this last time, and you and kid were like, I don't want to think about that.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But my question that I posed to y'all was, do you think he can actually wipe his own butt?
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, at this at his age and lack of agility, I think that he might not be able to wipe his own butt.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could be.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And could you imagine being the person that he hired to wipe his butt?
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will know.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So couldn't pay me enough.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that he probably has a stinky duty.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that he probably smells like Pupu.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's gross.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Immediately, he set to the city's upon way.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: He sent, sorry.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't set.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: He sent to the city's upon the coast.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: The sea coast.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: The sea shells.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: She shells by the sea shore.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: She coast.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Inviting them to buy Jewish slaves, promising to deliver 70 slaves for a talent, not expecting the judgment that was to overtake him from the Almighty.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's like, this is like, for shadowing.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is like, oh my gosh, can you even believe that guy was like, I'm about to sell me some book and she did not have a clue what was coming.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you know that a fictitious God is going to come and destroy you?
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I often don't know what is coming from fictitious God's.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or otherwise because as that previous sentence said, what it is, hey, hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: God often comes without warning.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: He sure does.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: All over us.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: News came to Judas concerning Nick and ours invasion.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: When he communicated to those who were with him, the presence of the army, those who were cowardly and this trustful of God's judgment ran away and left the country.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will admit here now.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am cowardly and this trustful of God's judgment.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I would run away.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, wouldn't run fast because I don't have good running ability.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I would run.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Others sold all that they had left and at the same time employed the Lord implore the Lord.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe on the city.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is a good one.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is a good chapter.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm a purpose because I had to be translated.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know, but it feels good in the house.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, others sold.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you laugh in that movie laugh.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: All that they had laughed at at the same time implored the Lord to deliver those who had been sold slaves by the impious Nickenor.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Impious.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Impious?
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I bet it's impious.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I do like impious.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it sounds like you are such a man.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely impious.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, but I do like impious though.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you're such an imp.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: the impious nickname before he had ever met them if not for their own sex and for the covenants made with their ancestors and because he had called them by his holy and glorious name.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what just happened, but I don't want to read it again.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm sure it's just keep going.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just keep going.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what the Q&A is for.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So macabees gathered his men together.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: 6,000 in number.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, 6,000 has compared to the 20 that's coming.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I say in 20,000 is way more 6,000.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And exhorted them not to be frightened by the enemy.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: nor to fear the great multitude of the heathen who came wrongfully against them.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I always become a wrong person and unexpected.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but to fight no bully setting before their eyes, the outrage that had been lawlessly perpetrated upon the holy place and the torture of the city that had been turned to mockery and further the overthrow of the way of life received from their ancestors.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's just out there speaking.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, come on, you've six, we can totally beat them 20.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's like Braveheart.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, waving his balls under his shirt like that, for they just were quoting now.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: For they, he said, trust the weapons and daring deeds, but we trust in the almighty God, since he is able at a nod to cast down those who are coming against us and even the whole world.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he doesn't, but he calls
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He totally fucking cool.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Question, could you do it before we have to go fight them?
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would be so not want to die.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Remember I was thinking about how I find irresistible my next breath.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 22:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Moreover, he recounted to them the help given from time to time in the days of their ancestors, both in the days of Sanesharab when 185,000 perished, and in the land of Babylon, we'll be going back away in the battle that was fought against the galls.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, hey guys, once every few hundred years or so,
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're due.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: This guy guy kills everybody for us.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: We are due for a win y'all.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: This could be the one.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go get this because he might help It's good half of y'all are on board if you if any of you are throwing bones or something or carrying any of those and we're fucked So say you know Yep, this is all on you.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, each of you right?
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: How they came to the battle with 8,000 and all, with 4,000 Macedonians and how the Macedonians being hard pressed, the 6,000 destroyed the 120,000 because of the help which they had from heaven and took a great deal of plunder.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was this some other fight or is this the bite this is some other fight there?
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's some other fight we're talking about He's naming off all these other fights.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like that's a lot of numbers of they throughout yeah, follow all that I know you remember that time when God interceded on us.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're still talking about God's intercessions here.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay Totally could be us.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're due for a good win, y'all.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: God shouldn't come down in a few centuries.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: This may the one yeah
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when he had with these words filled them with courage, and they're all waving their balls at each other's oxide.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And made them ready to die for the laws and their country.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: He divided his army into four parts.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He appointed his brothers, Simon, Joseph, and Jonathan to be leaders of the divisions with him.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did be the first one.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: giving each the command of 1,500 men.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Moreover, Elias are also having read aloud the sacred book and having given as watchward all capitals, the help of God, leading the first band himself, joined battle with Nick and O'er.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why that was all caps, but it was very exciting.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: since the Almighty fought on their side, see?
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I told you they were going for a shot.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, apparently they didn't say on the first book.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We covered this.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: But second macabees is all about the God, intersection enough, right?
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the golden pony boy.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is like, uh,
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, those things you might mention, even in a recounting, I don't know.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, remember that one time when we saw magic happen, it was really big y'all because magic doesn't.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it did that one time.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: That would be a day.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: That would record an instrument.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely would stand out.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dogs and cats living together.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mass hysteria.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Since the Almighty fought on their side, they killed more than 9,000 of the enemy and wounded and disabled, most of Nick and Wars army.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And compelled them all to flee.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: They took the money of those who had come there to buy them as slaves.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you got to loot the dead, you know?
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need to take their rings and plunder their wings.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're getting their pocket.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: After they had pursued them for some distance, they returned, being constrained by the time of day.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: For it was the day before the Sabbath.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, they told us they were fighting on Sabbath.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for this reason, they made no effort to chase them far.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was stupid.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: When they agathered the weapons of the enemy together and had stripped off their spoils, they kept the Sabbath greatly blessing and thanking the Lord who had saved them to this day.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he had begun to show mercy to them after the Sabbath when they had given some of the spoils to the maimed and to the widows and orphans.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was nice.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: They distributed the rest among themselves and their children.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was nice.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just I just I just take to remember from the first macabees that they gave up worrying about fighting on the Sabbath after the people in the cave died.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're still now we're holding and this book now we're holding to you.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's got it.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because we're back to God is great.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: We did that one time.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we wouldn't die and then we were right back to following the rules because God is helping us real hard sure and he didn't hold it against us that we didn't hold that Sabbath even though he does hold it against us if we eat pork.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm still sorry God, but priorities, it's like figure your shit out.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're an all-powerful being and you are worried about all the wrong things.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: When they had accomplished these things and had made a common supplication, they implored the merciful Lord to be wholly reconciled with his servants,
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: They killed more than 20,000 of them and made themselves masters of the universe, just kidding.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Masters of exceedingly high strongholds and divided very much plunder, giving the maimed orphans widows in the ageed and equal share with themselves.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Does it look like they're very much plunder?
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, divided very much plunder.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're very much, okay.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Very much.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you know how much?
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very much.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I did account.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: This feels whatever.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds a lot like et cetera and so forth and so on and what have you and and anyways.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that that sentence was very much.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: When they had gathered the weapons of the enemy together, they stored them all up carefully in the most strategic positions, and they carried the rest of the spoils to Jerusalem.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: They killed the firelark of, I don't know what that word means.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will be looking that word up, I need to know because it looks really swath.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's, bylark with a pH at the beginning.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And with a CH at the end.
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that sounds important.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is a very swath word.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know?
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, it's, it's a very cool looking word.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: They killed the firelark of Timothyus's forces, a most unholy man, and one who had done the Jews much harm.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: As they celebrated the feast of victory in the city of their fathers, they burned those who had set the sacred gates on fire, including Calisthenes who had fled into a little house.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: birth and live or that that that seems a little weird.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't mind when they kill people and name them and have slaves and wake women.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't mind that at all.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: These are people who actually have stood in the blood of their victims and and dashed babies against rock.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I guess I just feel like it's somewhat like God is not like
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't support, you know, glorifying death, you know, like I feel like guys are y'all away, this nobody has ever said y'all way is a loving God right.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't agree.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Most Christians say no.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's an angry God.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a jealous God.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is not a loving God.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus is the lover.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus is the guy.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus is just all right with me.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is the lover not the fighter.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right here.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: This y'all way though.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got the big gun.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's sick.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is a dick.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a piece of shit.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they received the proper reward for their impiety.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bernie Bernie.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: The rice a curse at Nick and Laura.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rice a curse at huh.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: The rice a curse at is the name of my next band.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I need a shirt actually that says the rice a curse at Nick and Laura.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean think about it.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's so rice a curse at Nick and Laura.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty cool.
• 30:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: The three secursed Nickenor, who had brought the thousand merchants to buy the Jews as slaves, being through the help of the Lord humbled by them who in his eyes were held to be of least account, took off his glorious apparel, and passing through the country, shunning all company like a fugitive slave arrived at Antioch, having, as he thought, had the greatest possible good fortune that was only was destroyed.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he just ran.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, fuck this shit.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna take out all my shit and I'm running home.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he stripped down and was like, what?
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean?
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not no Nick and Nora.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck are you talking about?
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: My name is Peter.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am Peter Tower.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Peter towers.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I make lamps.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about?
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who is this man?
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: A few Nick and Nora.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And those days
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, I feel like you can get on Facebook and look somebody up or something.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I heard Nick and Norris thrice a cursad.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do I look like a man who is thrice a cursad?
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so he threw his glorious apparel off and he ran through the country and he's like, what?
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: um he who had taken upon himself to make tribute sure for the Romans by the captivity of the men of Jerusalem, published a broad that the Jews had one capital O who fought for them.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, one, okay.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, God.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: God.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: That y'all were God.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that because this was so the Jews were invulnerable because they followed the laws ordained by him.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: The end.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's how that works.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't believe in the guy, but you, you run back and you're like, my God, these guys fight for this God guy and then because of that, they're invulnerable and they just can't, they can't fucking lose because of their God, not because they had better battle plans, not because, you know, they, they don't dare to be a better guy or anything like that.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're inspired to protect.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: their own.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, they have this like crazy fanatical belief in what they believe in.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure it was Jews macabees as people that was like chasing them through the whatever and that wasn't God chasing them.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was people chasing other people.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't lions either.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it wasn't bears.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you believe in other entities or don't believe in anything and all why would you suddenly be like, they're God is amazing.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, listen, listen, if I believe in a God and unloosing, I'm not going to be like, you're God is so awesome.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be like,
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: My God, sucks.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't break.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: God anymore.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like that my guy's not doing the job.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm not going to praise your God.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to cuss mine.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or like the Israelites do.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you would be like, I'm not worthy enough right now.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're punishing me.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't ever place it on the fact that the other God is greater.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's what I think your God didn't do.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't appease your God enough either you suck or your God sucks You're worried about you and your God you're not thinking about them and they're God right right I want to see like one historical piece of paper where a person literally actually wrote that this other person's God What great that I don't believe that I don't believe that actually happened that didn't actually happen right I can guarantee that didn't happen because that's not how humans work right
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: and moreover, an atheist doesn't be like, oh, wow, I'm dying.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I believe totally in that God now.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that God.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's accounts of that, but here's the thing.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that they were actually, I believe they were like the they might be giving a shit.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, listen, listen, they might believe in a God and be begging their God that they heard about from when they were kids, but they're not going to suddenly believe in somebody else's God and be like, you're right.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I totally believe in a God with all my heart because of about to die.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not how that works.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't reach out to Zeus or something.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's what I'm saying.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: You might like suddenly be an atheist in a foxhole believe in in your own God.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what is your own God if you're an atheist?
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: the God of your people, the God of your hair, the way you grew up, the God of whatever.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you might, you might suddenly find it within you man.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I should have went to church with mom more.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't think that would ever happen to me, but no, it wouldn't happen to me either.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying like, I can see that happening for some atheist, right?
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: For some agnostics, for some people who are like, actually in imminent death and they're like,
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: but I don't see them just like switching teams.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not only are they overcoming their own disbelief and any God whatsoever, but they're gonna go so far as to pick a random one and the one that's killing them, to suddenly like, I do believe in fairies.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like what?
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I feel like the ones that do switch quote unquote switch up at the end, I don't feel like they were that strange and like they didn't really They didn't read enough like, you know, they weren't hard atheists.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were just, um, bored.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, the way that's would, um, first of all, it looks like they can't hold on.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people that believe in, like the Pascal's wager is a thing, right?
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so they live their life, and then they get on their deathbed, and they're like, I've lived a long life.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm probably going to die soon.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I should probably get right God real quick.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's reasons that that doesn't work out because there's so many different gods in this planet that people believe in.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that aside, sometimes does happen where someone's like, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna go ahead and say the thing and give it to me.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because why not?
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: My bowl.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm about to say my bed here, you know?
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, which, that whole thing like that whole strategic move.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, because God is so stupid, he knows everything except for like your own fucking heart.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, boy, you're going to pull the wool over that god's eye that you just decided to believe in.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a lot of things to say that if you just repent and accept God as your savior, that you're good.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you don't, that's not how belief works though.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't just be like, and I believe now you can say it.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could go through the motions, but if you don't believe it, you don't fucking believe it.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: You, you don't just like be like,
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Find the earth is flat again.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many reasons why Pascal's major is not correct or doesn't work out.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's so disrespectful to whatever God you're pretending to believe in.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's so foolish.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's so silly.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: God is God is all powerful, but he doesn't know that you're just trying to like hedge your bets and get one over on a moker.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, that was second macabees chapter eight.
• 37:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, fuck was.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And next time, we will be back with.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Second macadudos, chapter nine.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So see you then.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.