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Biden Stuns Nation by Deciding to Pull from 2024 Race · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden has officially dropped out of the presidential race. Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: it is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
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  Speaker 1: you on this special podcast. Senator, you predicted this ten
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  Speaker 1: months ago. It has now become a reality. Your initial reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Well, today is an historic day. We are one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and six days out from the presidential election and the
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  Speaker 2: Democrat nominee for president, the sitting Democrat president, is out.
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  Speaker 2: He will not be on the ballot, he will not
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  Speaker 2: be the candidate. At this point, the Democrat Party is
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  Speaker 2: in utter disarray. Chaos is erupting. We're going to break
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  Speaker 2: down exactly what is likely to happen next. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to walk all through the steps to expect in the
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty days between now an election day.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with what's happened over the
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  Speaker 1: last week. Democrats witnessed an incredible GOP convention. You and
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  Speaker 1: I were there. It's the most I think unity I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen the Republican Party at a convention, doubtedly, and
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  Speaker 1: they were, I think, really concerned after the convention of
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  Speaker 1: a big bump. How do you reset a race you
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  Speaker 1: get in your new candidate. And I think they clearly
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  Speaker 1: saw that. We saw the big five Democratic families and
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  Speaker 1: the media coalesced behind forcing him to get out. I
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  Speaker 1: think some sort of deal had to happen to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that Joe Biden and his family are going to
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  Speaker 1: be taken care of. Kamala Harris was the obvious choice.
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  Speaker 1: That's now who he's endorsed, and other Democrats seem to
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  Speaker 1: be jumping on board.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think this was inevitable, as I said,
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  Speaker 2: as of the night of the debate, but I think
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  Speaker 2: the momentum of it accelerated number one with the assassination
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  Speaker 2: attempt on President Trump. Number two with the very successful
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  Speaker 2: presidential convention we just had a Milwaukee I think Democrats
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  Speaker 2: were in absolute panic. They were in panic earlier today,
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  Speaker 2: poll numbers came out of Michigan that had Trump leading
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  Speaker 2: Biden in Michigan by seven points. You want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about something to put put Democrats in cold sweats. If
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  Speaker 2: they're losing Michigan by seven points, go ahead and pull
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  Speaker 2: the curtains down, roll up the rug. It's all over.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they did this. That would have happened regardless,
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  Speaker 2: even if the debate had been even if the convention
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  Speaker 2: rather had been bumpy, even if Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 2: had not happened. I believe we'd still have Biden out
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  Speaker 2: of the race. But the Democrats, we saw each of
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  Speaker 2: the major constituencies of the Democrat Party line up against
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden in force amount. He did not want to go.
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  Speaker 2: He did not go willingly, but one after the other,
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  Speaker 2: starting with Democrats in Congress, Nancy Pelosi came out against him,
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer came out against him, Hakeem Jeffries came out
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  Speaker 2: against him. And it was all self interest. All the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats in Congress were looking at their poles saying, holy cow,
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  Speaker 2: we're about to lose, and they all lined up against him.
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  Speaker 2: But you also saw you saw Barack Obama quietly coming
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  Speaker 2: out against him. He put out a quick tweet in
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  Speaker 2: support of him, but he also signed off on George
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  Speaker 2: Clooney representing Hollywood abandoning him, saying Joe, get out. We
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  Speaker 2: saw the corporate media uniformly pushing him out, We saw
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  Speaker 2: the donors pushing him out, and the pressure became too
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  Speaker 2: much to bear. One senator after another senator after another
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  Speaker 2: senator on the Democrat side, Biden didn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say it was very savvy of them
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  Speaker 2: to wait until after this convention. But let's let's just
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  Speaker 2: first go with the news. So today, here's what Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden put out this afternoon. This is the letter he
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  Speaker 2: put out. He tweeted it out. This This screenshot is
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  Speaker 2: from twelve forty six pm. Interestingly enough, it had ninety
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  Speaker 2: five point nine million views already. Yeah, I just checked
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  Speaker 2: a minute ago, where about two hours later it was
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  Speaker 2: up to one hundred and sixty one million views. This
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  Speaker 2: is his resignation letter. And rather than you and me
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  Speaker 2: read it, which which should be fine, but we'd have
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  Speaker 2: to say words that are demonstrably untrue, things claiming that
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  Speaker 2: Biden had actually done something well, that his record was
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  Speaker 2: something other than the train record is, rather than you
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  Speaker 2: or me read it, I think we're better off engaging
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  Speaker 2: in a bit of schadenfreud and so watching Jensaki on MSNBC.
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  Speaker 1: Rea Umber White House Press Secretary, Joe Biden's press secretary,
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  Speaker 1: having to carry the water, and.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta say, look, since I said that there are
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  Speaker 2: a number of lies about his record, Jensaki is actually
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  Speaker 2: quite accomplished at reading lies. But for those of you
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  Speaker 2: watching this as a video pod, so this is one.
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  Speaker 2: We do this podcast three days a week. All three
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  Speaker 2: of them are on audio, typically one a week is
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  Speaker 2: on video. This is one of the video and audiopods.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say, if you're listening on audio, I'd
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  Speaker 2: encourage you to go to YouTube and watch it on
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  Speaker 2: video because to watch Jensaki's face, you cannot fully appreciate
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  Speaker 2: the agony without watching it as she's reading these words,
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  Speaker 2: and as we're watching the Democrat Party light itself on fire. Here,
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  Speaker 2: give a listen, give a watch.
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  Speaker 3: We have breaking news here. President Biden has announced he
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  Speaker 3: will stand down from the race. We're going to read
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  Speaker 3: the statement here.
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  Speaker 2: Her expression, which is actually frozen on the screen right now,
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  Speaker 2: she's about to cry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean she's like, what has just happened to
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  Speaker 1: my world?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no, it is that's all right, go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: keep playing.
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  Speaker 3: We also have Tim Miller, who's going to be joining
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  Speaker 3: us shortly. Over the past, my fellow Americans, over the
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  Speaker 3: past three and a half years, we have made great
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  Speaker 3: progress as a nation. Today, America has the strongest economy
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  Speaker 3: in the world. We've made historic investments in rebuilding our nation,
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  Speaker 3: in lowering prescription drug costs for seniors, and in expanding
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  Speaker 3: affordable healthcare to a record number of Americans. We've provided
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  Speaker 3: critically needed care to you have a million veterans exposed
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  Speaker 3: to toxic substances. Past the first thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to read off the paper here, past
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  Speaker 3: the first safety law in thirty years, appointed the first
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  Speaker 3: African American woman to the Supreme Court, and passed the
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  Speaker 3: most significant climate legislation in the history of the world.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really, that's I mean, she just goes straight
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  Speaker 1: into it and is like totally lost, like what just
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  Speaker 1: happened to us?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Joe Biden has suspended as you and I predicted
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  Speaker 2: ten months ago, as you and I predicted a month
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  Speaker 2: ago on the debate, and he will not be on
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  Speaker 2: the ballot. That has never happened before. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: closest analog is the nineteen sixty eight Democrat convention, which
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  Speaker 2: was in Chicago as well. That is the last time
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  Speaker 2: you had an incumbent Democrat president and that case Lyndon B. Johnson. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not run for reelection. Now, Lyndon B. Johnson, Why did
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  Speaker 2: he not run for reelection? A big part of it
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  Speaker 2: is he'd lost the support of the American people. He'd
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  Speaker 2: lost the sport of a Republic of independence and Democrats
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  Speaker 2: and when you lose all of them, there ain't nobody left.
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  Speaker 2: It was the middle of the Vietnam War. Unlike Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 2: it was not that he was too old. It was
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  Speaker 2: just that he was physically worn down and tired, and
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  Speaker 2: he'd lost the American people, and so LBJ didn't run,
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  Speaker 2: and you had you want to talk about an incredibly
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  Speaker 2: contentious election. In that election, there was a guy named
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  Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy who was running. That tragically is the
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  Speaker 2: election cycle where Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in the course
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  Speaker 2: of the cycle. But he was for a period the
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  Speaker 2: rising star. You ended up having lbj's vice president, Hubert Humphrey,
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  Speaker 2: got the nomination, but it was an incredibly close and
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  Speaker 2: contested race because you had a challenge from the left
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  Speaker 2: and a challenge from the left over Vietnam a chaotic convention,
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  Speaker 2: and outside you had rabid protesters engaged in violence and rioting.
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  Speaker 2: Think we may literally be seeing history repeating itself.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about and there's two aspects of what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to ask you. Number One, we see early on,
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  Speaker 1: I think the front runner is Kamla Harris. We see
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  Speaker 1: people coalescing behind her. But the real question is how
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  Speaker 1: did she get that support so quickly from this president?
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  Speaker 1: What is the deal that's being done behind the scenes?
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  Speaker 1: Was this White House staffers making sure, Hey, I want
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  Speaker 1: to stay in and keep my power, I have a
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  Speaker 1: better chance of keeping it with Coma than going with
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. All these people and jobs in around Biden
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  Speaker 1: hare so like, hey, I can keep my power if
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  Speaker 1: she's the person or was it hey He's saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I trust you Coma to take care of me, protect
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  Speaker 1: my son, possibly give out clem and see or pardons
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  Speaker 1: that may be needed down the road. How did the
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  Speaker 1: sausage get made on this deal?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go back to Biden's resignation letter.
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  Speaker 2: Put that back up there. If you look at the
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  Speaker 2: resignation letter that when he put it out earlier today,
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  Speaker 2: he says, and I'm going to finish reading from where
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  Speaker 2: we cut off on Jensaki. It's been the greatest honor
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  Speaker 2: of my life to serve as your president. And while
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  Speaker 2: it has been my intention to seek reelection, the damned
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  Speaker 2: Democrats dromad of office. No, you didn't say that, he says.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it isn't the best interest of my party,
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  Speaker 2: notice his party first, yep, and the country for me
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  Speaker 2: to stand down and focus solely on fulfilling my duties
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  Speaker 2: as president for the remainder of my term. I will
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  Speaker 2: speak to the nation later this week in more detail
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  Speaker 2: about my decision. For now, let me express my deepest
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  Speaker 2: gratitude to all those who work so hard to see
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  Speaker 2: me reelect it. I want to thank Vice President Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris for being an extraordinary partner in all this work.
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  Speaker 2: And let me express my heartfelt appreciation to the American
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  Speaker 2: people for the faith and trust you have placed in me. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, in this resignation letter, you notice what he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't do.
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  Speaker 1: I fully endorse.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't mention endorsement at all. He says. I want
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  Speaker 2: to thank Kamala Harris, and he's silent. Now he puts
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  Speaker 2: that out, and I'm assuming when he puts that out,
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  Speaker 2: the powers that be in the White House and in
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party freaked the hell out. Yeah, lost their minds,
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  Speaker 2: lost their minds. And so shortly thereafter, look at the
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  Speaker 2: tweet he put out as a follow up, like it
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  Speaker 2: says something your resignation letter. It's kind of odd to
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  Speaker 2: need a follow up.
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  Speaker 1: And then a quick follow up at that very quick.
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  Speaker 2: Follow up, but there was enough time. That other one
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  Speaker 2: was twelve forty six. This is one thirteen, so you
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  Speaker 2: know time passed. And then he sends out another tweet.
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  Speaker 2: My fellow Democrats, I've decided not to accept the nomination
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  Speaker 2: to focus all my energies on my duties as president
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  Speaker 2: for the remainder of my term. Notice that was in
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  Speaker 2: his letter.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: My very first decision as the party nominee in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty was to pick Kamala Harris as my vice president.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the best decision I've made today. I want
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  Speaker 2: to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to
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  Speaker 2: be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats, it's
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  Speaker 2: time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: So delayed reaction.
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  Speaker 2: So at this point, Kamala is clearly the front runner.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden is explicitly supporting her. In the time that followed,
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  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton came out in support of her, Hillary Clinton
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  Speaker 2: came out in support of her. Alex Soros has come
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  Speaker 2: out in support of her.
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  Speaker 1: Alex, by the way, maybe one of the most important
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  Speaker 1: actual endorsements because it's follow the money well.
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  Speaker 2: And look, George Soros has been the most important donor
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  Speaker 2: behind not just the Democrat Party, but the radical leftist,
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  Speaker 2: the cultural Marxist, the anti Semitic protesters on campus. Soros
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  Speaker 2: has been funding all of that. According to multiple reports,
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  Speaker 2: George Soros's mental condition and mental deterioration is at least
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  Speaker 2: where Biden's is, if not substantially worse. And it's the
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  Speaker 2: son Alex Soros is the one that's now making the decision.
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  Speaker 2: So understand when Alex Soros tweets out that he's behind
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, what he's saying is the money is behind
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. You're going to see a lot of that now.
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  Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, there's some other Democrats who are not quick
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  Speaker 2: to get on board. So, for example, take a look
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  Speaker 2: at what Gavin Newsom tweeted, President Biden has been an
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  Speaker 2: extraordinary history making president, a leader who has fought hard
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  Speaker 2: for working people and delivered astonishing results for all Americans.
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  Speaker 2: He will go down in history as one of the
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  Speaker 2: most impactful and selfless presidents. Thank you, Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not much of an endorsement.
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  Speaker 2: There is though, whose name's not there? Yeah, Kamala and
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  Speaker 2: interesting enough. Now, look, Gavin is not lacking an ambition.
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  Speaker 1: That's the very PC way of putting it. I like
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  Speaker 1: that it He's like, let's go to the convention, let's
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  Speaker 1: have this thing out.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. And by the way, earlier today there
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  Speaker 2: were was all sorts of chatter that Hillary Clinton was
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  Speaker 2: going to make a play for this. It is interesting
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  Speaker 2: that she and Bill came out very quickly and said
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  Speaker 2: let's get behind Kamala. I'm going to see lots of chatter.
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  Speaker 2: There are Democrats talking about wanting to have a open convention,
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  Speaker 2: a sort of mini primary battle, have the delegates decide
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  Speaker 2: under DNC rules. Initially, the delegates will vote. It's being
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  Speaker 2: speculated that Biden will release his delegates and say vote
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  Speaker 2: for whom you want, and there may be a process.
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  Speaker 2: They may do a process where Kamala RAN's and a
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  Speaker 2: handful of other people ron and they have a first ballot.
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  Speaker 2: Under the DNC rules, the so called super delegates. Those
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  Speaker 2: include things like governors, things like senators. They don't vote
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  Speaker 2: until the second ballot, So the first ballot is the
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  Speaker 2: actual elected delegates. And if they were elected to support
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, if they've been released here whatever they want,
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  Speaker 2: they can do whatever they want. I think at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, there's gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of noise, there's gonna be a little bit of squawking.
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  Speaker 2: But I stand by my prediction from day one that
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  Speaker 2: there is one person, in one person only for whom
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats will be willing to push Kamala Harris aside,
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  Speaker 2: and that is Michelle Obama. It doesn't appear right now
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  Speaker 2: that Michelle is willing to get in now, that could
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  Speaker 2: be on August surprise. We've got nearly a month until
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat Convention.
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  Speaker 1: Can we just talk horse trading so people understand what
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna look like for the next thirty days.
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  Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, delegates now have the power to pick
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  Speaker 1: who the president could be. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, Why is that because the Democrat Party. Look,
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  Speaker 2: they knew that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent. They knew
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  Speaker 2: a year ago. They ran him anyway. They had the voters,
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  Speaker 2: all the Democrat voters come vote for him, even though
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  Speaker 2: they knew he was mentally incompetent, that he couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: the job now. He couldn't do the job then, but
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  Speaker 2: they wanted power. The only thing that changed is with
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  Speaker 2: the debate, it became untenable. The American people realized this
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  Speaker 2: guy is not capable of doing the job anymore. It
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  Speaker 2: was only because they feared they were going to lose
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  Speaker 2: that the Democrats have abandoned him. But the consequence of
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  Speaker 2: that is the Democrats were perfectly fine with Democrat primary
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  Speaker 2: voters being completely disenfranchised. You will not get to select
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee ya.
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  Speaker 1: This person will be elected by no one in the public.
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  Speaker 1: It will all be done with horse trading that can
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  Speaker 1: happen on.
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  Speaker 2: A handful of elite's, a handful of special interest, which
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  Speaker 2: actually is pretty typical of who the Democrat Party is
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  Speaker 2: actually true, the irony is that they engage in Freudian
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  Speaker 2: projection at an historic level where everything they accuse their
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  Speaker 2: opponents of is what they're doing. But Democrat primary voters
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  Speaker 2: will have no say in who the nominee is. It
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  Speaker 2: will be powerbrokers in Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just paint behind the scenes so people understand
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  Speaker 1: the corruption that can come out of this. If you
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  Speaker 1: need delegates to get the nomination and you coalesce in
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  Speaker 1: smaller groups and then you go forward and say hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so and so I'm representing thirty five people in
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  Speaker 1: this state California. You can't win without us. I would
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  Speaker 1: like this, and this person would like this, and this
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  Speaker 1: person will like this, and this person would like this,
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  Speaker 1: and their kids would like these jobs in the White House.
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  Speaker 1: If you give us this, you get all of our votes.
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly what we've seen happen at state level.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen corruption happen in a way when they're replacing
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  Speaker 1: a seat.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Rodygoievitch went to jail for basically selling a Senate seat.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to happen now one hundred thousand times over.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And by the way, put on top of that, the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: big labor unions and the big money players, and the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Democrats party so corrupt, and the Sierra Club and the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: pro abortion groups and all of the difference. The Democrat
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Party today is a coalition of rent seekers, of people
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: who make their money suckling off the teet of government.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: That's who they are, and it is all about power
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and influence. Many of them. The reason they were willing
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to back someone who was obviously not mentally competent to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: be president is because they all stayed in power. Now
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: suddenly Joe Biden is going to be gone, and so
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they're all desperately scrambling how do I keep my power?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: And we're going to see that play out. What I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: think will happen at the end of the day, I think,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: number one, the Democrats are too much of racial and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: gender being counters to push an African American woman aside
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: for a white guy. So anyone looking at Gavin Newsom
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: or anyone else, I just don't think that's gonna happen.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: That's why I think Michelle Obama is the only person
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: who could push her aside, And at least right now,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: it does not see Michelle is trying to do that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: If it's not Michelle, I think we will see Kamala Harrison.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think the real battle is going to be who
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the VP is.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the VP. But before
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: we get to that, is it fair to say that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: this might be the most corrupt picking of a presidential
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: candidate in modern political history because of the time that
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: people have to build their power and to basically an essence,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: sell their vote.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And it's perhaps now not to be fair. It hasn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: happened yet, But it's all going to be behind closed doors.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be the voters. It's not going
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to be in public. It's one thing if you campaign,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Look at some level, you could say all campaigns are
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in a way about buying votes. If you campaign and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: say I'm for Medicare for all, for socialized medicure, you're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you're saying the Democrats are big on being the Santa
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Claus Party. We'll give you free stuff if you vote
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: for us. That's one thing. Different level, it's a totally
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: different if you make a public promise in the press
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that I will support a law that that has broad effect.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You know, Joe Biden, I'm gonna give away a trillion
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: dollars to people who have student loans.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, vote for me. I'm buying your vote.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: That is very different from you know, Ben, you control
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: a pocket of votes. You ever thought of being Secretary
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of the Navy?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: You like votes?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Or I hear there's a great house in this country.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And the ambassadorship there's really fun.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's we're going to see that happening every
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: day now, mind you. You're going to get competing people
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: making those promises. And in terms of the vice president,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that's going to be part of the negotiation is who
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Kamala team's up with to try to lock down lock
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: down the power brokers in the Democrat Party. And one
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: question is does she try to quickly buy off whoever
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: she thinks her most formidable adversary is Possibly? Does she
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: try to get all of the potential adversaries to compete
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: wooing for her affection more likely, But it's going to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: take an entire month playing out for us to see well.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And can you promise someone the vice presidency so they
• 20:27
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  Speaker 1: talk about VP. Forget what we just went through. Holy crap.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Somebody who was never on a ballot yep, that no
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: one's ever voted for for vice president is all of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden going to become the vice president the United
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: States of America, possibly certainly will be the nominee for
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. How do they pick? I don't think
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people understand this. It's confusing enough picking
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the now Kamala Harris or whoever it's going to be.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But let's say it is Kamla. It's a little bit
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: more orderly. How the hell are we going to get
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the vice president? You'll pick for the Democratic Party? How
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: does that work?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Look, they're going to decide who brings the most to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the ticket. Often you look at geographic concerns. Will someone
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: put a state into play? Will someone be beneficial? Sometimes
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you look to things like, as someone a great fundraiser,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: will they bring a bunch of donors? Will they bring
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: other interest groups on board? Sometimes you look to neutralize
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: someone who's a potential opponent. In this instance, I think
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are one hundred percent about race and gender.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It's how they think. It's how they're wired. They don't
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: look at individuals. It's DEI, so it is di I.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I think the VP nominee will be a boring white guy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That's my prediction. And they're there. They actually have a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: number of boring white guys. So so so they have
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a broad.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So who picks it? Is it the person who gets
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the nomination, So there's no voting by the delegates. To me,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you don't understand the process.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: It will be. My guess is Kamala will announce who
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: her VP is going to be before they vote. It
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: could conceivably be afterwards. It depends. If there's a real contested.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Battle at the convention, Uh.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Then then maybe she doesn't announce it until after she's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the nominee. Typically, the way it happens is the nominee
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: is sewn up before the convention. It's been a long
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: time since we've had a contested convention, and we've there's
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: been uncertainty as to who the nominee is going to be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: If the if the if the vote is really contentious
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and it's a drag out, knockdown at the convention. You're
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: saying there's a legit possibility that whoever comes away with
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it will will barely survive that they get the nomination.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: They say, Hey, in a week or two, I'll tell
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you who my VP is going to be.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think it would be at the convention.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I think it would be immediately thereafter. And if there
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: is a real fight, I mean, one thing that has happened,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you could go to whoever's number two and say, look,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I'll make you a VP if you drop out and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: endorse me, and that could be how you lock up
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the votes. I don't think it'll come to that. I
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: actually think people will coalesce around Kammalin more quickly than that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Who's the front runner then right now in your mind?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously this could change in a couple weeks.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But if I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: two names, and why Josh Shapiro.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, and tell people that don't know Josh who he is.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: He is the governor of Pennsylvania. He is widely perceived
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: as a moderate. He is Jewish. He was attorney general
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. I think what is compelling is number one.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Shapiro has strong polling numbers in Pennsylvania. If the Democrats
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: can win Pennsylvania, the path to Trump winning becomes much
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: much harder. He's also perceived as a moderate, and I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: think actually naming a Jewish Democrat would help tamp down
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: some of.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: The anti Semitic that they've been dealing with the last
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: several months.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, and so I think all of that, if you're
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: sitting there around Kamala, that's attractive. A second choice that
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I think is also very attractive as a VP is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Mark Kelly. Mark Kelly is Senator from Arizona. Yeah, Mark
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Kelly is a Navy veteran. Mark Kelly is a former astronaut.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: He's been to space.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He's also got a fame factor to him. Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And Mark Kelly is also affable, and he seems reasonable.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: He doesn't seem crazy when you talk with him. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: like Mark Kelly personally. He's someone he's like a Joe Manchin.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It won't be Joe Manchen, but he's someone who his affect,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: his demeanor is very affable and if you met him
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: on the street, you wouldn't think the guy was a Democrat.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't think that he voted with a looney left
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: on almost everything, because he seems like a normal guy.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I think that would be very attractive. And Arizona, it
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: is not as vital as swing state as Pennsylvania doesn't
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: have nearly as many electoral votes, but Arizona is certainly
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: a battleground state, and Mark Kelly on the ballot could help.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I would put those two as the top two.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I got to ask, and where's Gavin Newsom? Is he
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: number three? If you're going for a white guy. The
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: argument they would say is someone says he brings California,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: but the reality is California. I got California anyway, exactly.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So if they go Gavin Newsom, it's a combination of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: two things. Want one money, okay, And Newsom's got a
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: bunch of donors who love him, who will write checks.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And California is the ATM of the Democrat Party. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: so now Kamala is a Californian, so she's got a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: lot of that money behind her also.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But it neutralizes him too, right, wouldn't that be the perk?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Because then you'd have to worry about him in four.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Years potentially, although she doesn't worry about him in four years.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: If she's the incumbent president, he's not going to primary her.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: If she gets this and gets elected, Newsom doesn't get
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to run.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: For eight years.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That that's just it, just that's how it's going to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: knocks that down down the road. Look, Newsome, I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: is perceived as too liberal. My guess is they're not
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: going to be that worried about money. And the other
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: reason you would go with Newsom is he's talented. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: mean he is. He is a snake oil salesman par excellence.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: He's a communicator, he's slick. He can be a.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Great campaigner because peop would show up to see him.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: In the Democratic Party, that's important too, right, I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you you have an event and your VP is popular,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's good for your campaign.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Look, and in many ways he would overshadow Kaml. It
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: reminds me back in the nineteen eighty eight election. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: remember Saturday Night Live was making fun as we're getting
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: really close to the election, and you had George Bush
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and dan Quayle and look, people had ridiculed dan Quail enormously.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And so what what SNL did is the ballots is
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the party of parties have requested they be printed and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the Republican side had Bush and giant letters and quail
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and tiny letters. And then on the Democrat side you
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: had Michael Dacaccas, who rode in a tank with a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: helmet and looked ridiculous. And then Lloyd Benson, it was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the Texas senator who was moderate well received, was going
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: over well. SNL did the Battle of Docacas, tiny little
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: letter and Benson. Yeah, that could happen. Kamala could be
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: worried about is the risk that Gavin would would overshadow her.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: And that's why I think Shapiro or Kelly are more likely.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'd be surprised. I don't think she thinks she needs
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the money, and I think the downside she would perceive
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: is greater.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the media, because what we're
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: going to see right now, and this is my biggest concern.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You and I talked about this in Milwaukee. If Biden
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: dropped out. Now it's Biden has dropped out. It's a
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: complete reset, yes, of this presidential campaign, the polls, and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I want to be very clear to our audience. This
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is my opinion. I don't know if you agree with
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: me or not. I want to know your take on
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: it are completely meaningless and worthless right now.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: The only poll that's going to matter is the first
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: poll after we find out who the Democrats actually pounds.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Even that poll's not going to matter. And and listen,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: this is something you and I talked about in our
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: last podcast. We did two podcasts live from the convention.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I love the convention. It was a blast. It's the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: best Republican convention. I've ever seen, more unity than I've
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: ever seen. However, I was very worried at the convention,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and I expressed this to you at the time, which
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: is I am afraid people were over confident at the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: convention that there was an air of celebration. It was
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: We've won, We're on to victory. This is a landslide.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Trump's coming back in. We've got a huge Republican majority.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: He heard people talking about it. Fifty five to fifty
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: six Republican senators, huge Republican house. Like people were planning,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: people were talking about, all right, who's gonna be Secretary
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of State, who's gonna be Secretary of Defense? Like they're handing.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Already moved on. Yeah, we wanted now what's next? And
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that's not the case.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And my view, and I was trying to say this
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: is Look, there's a time for celebration, celebrate after election day,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: celebrate after we've won. Now is not the time for celebration.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Now's the time for hard work. Now's the time for
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: rolling up your sleeves and going to win. And my
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: assumption is coming out of the convention, Republicans will get
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a little bounce. You know, historically it's about four points,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: is what you get out of your convention. I think
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: it was a strong convention. So let's assume that happens
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the Democrats, and I will give them credit for one thing.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: They're timing of releasing it right after the convention. Perfect
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: timing to do this, because it resets the whole race.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It almost doesn't matter what the bounce was out of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the convention. And here's the problem. For the next month,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: all of the news is going to be dominated by
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: who the Democrat is going to be. The Democrats are
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: about to have a month long convention instead of a week.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Why do you get a bounce out of a convention.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You get a bounce out of convention because you have
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: four days of driving the news, the earn media every
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: night of your people on TV pitching all of the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: benefits of your nominee, all the benefits of your record,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: all the benefits of your agenda. Instead of a four
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: day convention, the Democrats are about to have a month
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: long convention where every news story will be focused on
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: who the nominee is gonna be. And they're also going
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to be doing a combination of number one, praising Biden.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not graceful to he's on his way out.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: People don't want to criticize him anymore.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to They did this for America.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: He's historic, He's one of the greatest presidents of the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: history of the universe. I mean, you're gonna hear all
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: of that effusively, and then they're going to talk about
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: what an historic president Kamala Harris would be and it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: going to be a month long We're going to see.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Multi I would argue multi billion dollar in kind contribution.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Republicans, I worry vastly underestimate Kamala
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Harris that they don't think very highly of her. They
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: up Kamala Harris's name in Republican circles, people. It's immediately
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a punch line. I think people are underestimating what billions
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: of dollars of free media, of the entire corrupt corporate
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: media complex. Pitching her as a combination of Mother Teresa,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Oprah and Gandhi.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, and save the party.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It's going to be and young and vibrant, and it's historic.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I mean it is going to be now. I still
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: think Trump wins in November. But this is not a layup.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It is not given in what's coming in front of us. Look,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: if you're a Democrat, what makes you nervous is chaos,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and this much chaos one hundred days out is scary.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But you know what even more scary is going to
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: an election where you're almost certain to lose, which is
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: where Biden was. So from their perspective, chaos and a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: chance to win or certain loss, they'll take chaos. But
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Republicans need to understand just how dangerous this is.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: It's all perspective in life. And I said this earlier.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: It's like you're on the greatest cruise ship in the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: world and that cruise ship's going down and a crappy
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: little fishing boat shows up and it saves your life.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You love that crappy fishing boat the rest of your life.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how bad it looks, how ugly it was.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: You just got your life saved. And that's Kamala Harris like,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: not a good.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Time that you do not have a career as a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Democrat politics ad maker. I can see the ad now,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris the boat to save your life.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: To save your life. But it's perspective. I mean, that's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. I know, right, But she didn't
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: even make it. I mean, I go back to when
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: she was running. She got zero delegates, correct, and she
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: was a terrible kennet. But when you're now in the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: position of that boat sinking and I'm the only one
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that's got doesn't have a hole in the boat, I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: pretty I'm pretty appealing to everybody on that boat, and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm willing to swim to you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm willing to hug you and kiss you and
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  Speaker 1: say thank you for saving my life. It's all perspective.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what the media is going to do to her,
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  Speaker 1: is say she just saved us from guaranteed to fate defeat.
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  Speaker 1: She is a savior to the Democratic Party. We love
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  Speaker 1: her and they're all going to be energized. That terrifies me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, energized. And once she's the nominee, unified. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one thing to keep in mind. People are focused on, oh, money,
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  Speaker 2: and Trump has a money advantage. Put yourself in the
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  Speaker 2: mindset of a Democrat gazillionaire, of a Democrat activist, of
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat union boss, of a Democrat special interest leader.
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  Speaker 2: A week ago, you were depressed, you were demoralizing, you
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  Speaker 2: were contemplating America run by Hitler. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: if you're one of those people you think Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: is Adolf Hitler. Yeah, but look like you were just
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to show up
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  Speaker 2: and vote. It's terrible. It's horrible. And now to go
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  Speaker 2: back to the sinking cruise ship, you've been thrown a lifeline.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see jubilation on the Democrat side.
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  Speaker 2: That's dangerous too, you know, jubilation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What happens is donors pull out their checks and they
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  Speaker 2: write really big checks when they're massive. What happens is
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  Speaker 2: activists go and they work harder, they turn more people out,
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  Speaker 2: and that particularly if the Republicans are over confident. We
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  Speaker 2: cannot be over confident. That combination is dangerous. And you
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  Speaker 2: know what, it reminds me of, potentially I hope this
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  Speaker 2: is not right, but it reminds me of a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago, the A and M versus Alabama game. I
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  Speaker 2: was there at the A and M versus Alabama game.
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  Speaker 2: Alabama at the time was the number one team in
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  Speaker 2: the country. You have me at sports analogy. I'm all
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  Speaker 2: in now A and M. A and M had started
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  Speaker 2: off as a top twenty five team and had a
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  Speaker 2: good team, but it had lost two games in a row. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: two opponents that weren't wasn't supposed to lose. I think
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  Speaker 2: maybe Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad.
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  Speaker 2: It was bad. And so we came into the game
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  Speaker 2: and I was there in College Station, and I remember
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  Speaker 2: saying to my buddies I was at the game with,
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I think A and M
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  Speaker 2: has a real chance to win this game because I
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  Speaker 2: think Alabama's feeling like we're the number one team in
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  Speaker 2: the country and these A and M guys suck. Look
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  Speaker 2: at look they're losing to teams that are not contenders.
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  Speaker 2: This is easy. We're playing a junior high team, and
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  Speaker 2: I think the Aggies were pissed off or they were
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  Speaker 2: at Kyle Field and they were defending their home and
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  Speaker 2: they were mad because everyone was dismissing them as a
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  Speaker 2: joke and they're like, wait a second, We're a top
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  Speaker 2: tier football team. And they ended up winning that game.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome. Forty one thirty eight was the final score.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Field erupted. I don't want to see the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: playing the role of A and M in that dynamic,
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  Speaker 2: and so my message to Republicans is do not behave
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  Speaker 2: like this is in the bag, because that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the easiest ways to ensure it's not in the bag.
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  Speaker 2: So look, I'd say forty percent you campaign against Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 2: And so from the Trump's campaign, I would assume it's Kamala,
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  Speaker 2: but also make the broader point it is their agenda
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  Speaker 2: four years ago? It doesn't matter what fill in the
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  Speaker 2: hope the Trump campaign and I hope Republicans generally make
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  Speaker 2: Yes, let me make a final statement.
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  Speaker 1: I like this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to place the odds that Joe Biden pardons
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden at one hundred point zero percent, Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: will get a pardon as a result of this decision today,
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  Speaker 2: will not happen till after election day.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask, when's the happening.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do it
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  Speaker 2: before election day, but he's gonna stick around and after
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