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- 0:00Speaker 1: We've got a couple of big breaking news stories.
- 0:02Speaker 2: I want to get you up to date on Number one,
- 0:04Speaker 2: Israel is now sharing intelligence warning plan by Iran to
- 0:09Speaker 2: assassinate Yes, President Donald Trump.
- 0:12Speaker 1: That's right.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Israel recently shared this intelligence with the United States, indicating
- 0:17Speaker 2: that Iran had developed a fresh new plan to assassinate
- 0:21Speaker 2: President Trump. According to a Wall Street Joeneral report, citing
- 0:25Speaker 2: people familiar with the matter, the report intelligence would mark
- 0:28Speaker 2: an escalation the long standing threats against Trump, who Iran
- 0:32Speaker 2: has repeatedly vowed to retaliate against over the twenty twenty
- 0:36Speaker 2: US strike that killed the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps General Solamani.
- 0:42Speaker 2: The White House referred also to Trump's remarks Wednesday when
- 0:45Speaker 2: he was also asked about that report as well. And
- 0:49Speaker 2: I want to play it for you in just a second.
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- 2:27Speaker 1: All right, I want to play for you now.
- 2:29Speaker 2: The President of United States America talking about taking out
- 2:32Speaker 2: Solamani in twenty twenty, and now he says Israel actually
- 2:36Speaker 2: refused to do it, so he did it instead.
- 2:39Speaker 1: He Solomoni.
- 2:40Speaker 3: People thought that was the biggest thing to happen in
- 2:41Speaker 3: the Middle East for fifty years.
- 2:43Speaker 1: That was the biggest event.
- 2:44Speaker 3: He was. He was the boss of Iran, and respect it.
- 2:50Speaker 3: But he was a mad genius. He was a genius
- 2:54Speaker 3: to the father of the roadside bomb. When you see
- 2:57Speaker 3: young men, in some cases women, mostly men walking around
- 3:02Speaker 3: without legs, without arms, with a face that's been blown
- 3:06Speaker 3: to smitherins, it's Salomoni. Ninety ninety six point two, they say,
- 3:10Speaker 3: or something ninety percent.
- 3:13Speaker 1: That was Salomoni. Did it happened to come.
- 3:16Speaker 3: From Iran and I blew him up. You remember that,
- 3:20Speaker 3: I blew him up in the Valley of Death. He
- 3:22Speaker 3: got off his plane and we followed him. And in
- 3:26Speaker 3: all fairness, because they'd been wonderful to me, Israel but
- 3:31Speaker 3: they didn't want to do that attack. They were all
- 3:33Speaker 3: set the night before the attack. Then for me, they
- 3:36Speaker 3: didn't want to do it, so I had to make
- 3:38Speaker 3: a decision. I made the decision to do it. But
- 3:41Speaker 3: there was a joint venture, as we say in the
- 3:44Speaker 3: real estate business, there was a joint venture between Israel
- 3:47Speaker 3: and US. We studied it for a month. We knew
- 3:50Speaker 3: what plane he was going to be on almost a
- 3:52Speaker 3: month before. He only traveled on commercial airline as the
- 3:54Speaker 3: big ones with lots of people, because he knew we
- 3:57Speaker 3: wouldn't shoot him down a very smort. We knew he
- 4:00Speaker 3: was going to be on that plane, followed him and
- 4:02Speaker 3: then Israel in for me that they won't do it,
- 4:07Speaker 3: and I had to make a decision. I had some
- 4:10Speaker 3: very good generals and not the ones you see on television,
- 4:13Speaker 3: very good and I want to thank also Pete Hegseth
- 4:16Speaker 3: and General Raisin Kane, who's phenomenal. Okay, these guys are phenomenal.
- 4:21Speaker 3: They can't be better. But I had some good generals
- 4:24Speaker 3: and I said to him, well.
- 4:25Speaker 1: The visual is not going to do it. We're all prepared.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Do we do it?
- 4:30Speaker 3: Do you like doing it or not? Sir? If you
- 4:33Speaker 3: want to do it, we can do it.
- 4:34Speaker 1: How well.
- 4:34Speaker 3: We'll do it just as well or better do it ourselves.
- 4:37Speaker 3: We don't need anybody. So we took out sealmony, one
- 4:42Speaker 3: of the biggest events to happen the Middle East, maybe ever.
- 4:46Speaker 3: But they say fifty years, they say one hundred years.
- 4:49Speaker 3: I was with the Prime Minister of Pakistan. He said,
- 4:52Speaker 3: it's maybe the biggest event that has ever taken places
- 4:56Speaker 3: that nobody could believe it.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Now.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Not only did the President share it that information, but
- 5:01Speaker 2: he also talked about this new plan from Iran, saying, quote,
- 5:05Speaker 2: they want to take out the US leader me. I'm
- 5:08Speaker 2: on whatever list I saw this morning. I'm on every
- 5:11Speaker 2: single one of their lists, Trump said. And so far,
- 5:14Speaker 2: I guess I've been a bit lucky. But maybe that
- 5:17Speaker 2: doesn't last very long. These are evil, sick people, and
- 5:20Speaker 2: we have to root out that cancer. That cancer. You
- 5:24Speaker 2: know what you do, You've got to cut out the
- 5:26Speaker 2: cancer early. And that's the way I feel now. The
- 5:30Speaker 2: journal also reported the intelligence surface as Trump and the
- 5:33Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister net Yahoo have diverged in recent weeks
- 5:38Speaker 2: over how to proceed after last month's conflict with Iran. Netna,
- 5:42Speaker 2: who is advocated for continuing military pressure on Tehran. Trump
- 5:46Speaker 2: has sought to preserve a fragile ceasefire after US strikes
- 5:50Speaker 2: on Iranian nuclear sites, and as you know, the presence
- 5:53Speaker 2: made it clear that ceasefire is now over.
- 5:57Speaker 4: Now.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Trump and Netnya, who we also are told, spook on
- 6:00Speaker 2: Thursday and they agree to continue coordination between the two countries.
- 6:05Speaker 2: That according to a statement for Netnahu's office, which said
- 6:08Speaker 2: Trump also updated the Israeli leader on the recent US
- 6:11Speaker 2: activity in the Gulf. Iran mourner is also at the
- 6:14Speaker 2: funeral of their Supreme leader, chanted for Trump's death and
- 6:18Speaker 2: displayed a banner that said we will kill Trump in English.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Iran has publicly vowed for years to retaliate against Trump
- 6:27Speaker 2: over the US operation that killed Solamani, the former commander
- 6:31Speaker 2: of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard the coued forces in Baghdad,
- 6:35Speaker 2: back in January of twenty twenty. Now this also comes
- 6:39Speaker 2: as President Trump is also voicing a growing frustration with
- 6:43Speaker 2: Iranian negotiators, accusing them of lying and cheating. Now, the
- 6:47Speaker 2: latest escalation is exposed an even more fundamental problem for Washington, DC,
- 6:52Speaker 2: and that is this whether the officials at the negotiating
- 6:55Speaker 2: table actually have the power to deliver an agreement, or
- 6:59Speaker 2: whether anyone in Tehran does as well. Quote, I don't
- 7:03Speaker 2: know if we're going to have a deal. We may
- 7:05Speaker 2: just do it without a deal, Trump said at the
- 7:07Speaker 2: NATO summit. These people, they lie and they cheat. Trump's
- 7:12Speaker 2: frustration with the RAND negotiators is only part of the problem.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Since the death of Kolamani, it has become increasingly unclear
- 7:19Speaker 2: who in Tehran has the authority to make or enforce
- 7:23Speaker 2: an agreement at all now. The younger Kolamani succeeded his
- 7:27Speaker 2: father as a supreme leader after the elder was killed
- 7:31Speaker 2: in that opening US is Really attack on February the
- 7:34Speaker 2: twenty eighth. His son has not appeared publicly since the attack,
- 7:38Speaker 2: and US assessments cited by Reuters have described authority as
- 7:42Speaker 2: well dispersed among senior revolutionary god commanders and powerful civil officials.
- 7:49Speaker 2: And there's massive amounts of civil war infighting happening right
- 7:52Speaker 2: now in Iran. The parliament speaker, a former IRGC commander
- 7:57Speaker 2: who led Iran's negotiating delegation, has emerges one of the
- 8:00Speaker 2: country's most powerful surviving political figures. And then an Iranian
- 8:04Speaker 2: American journalist, an editor of the I Ran So Far
- 8:07Speaker 2: Away sub sect, said power inside the Islamic Republic has
- 8:11Speaker 2: fractured so much so since the death of the Aetola,
- 8:15Speaker 2: leaving the Islamic Revolutionary Guard as the country's dominant to
- 8:18Speaker 2: facto force, saying, quote, the person who is negotiating with
- 8:23Speaker 2: the US is not necessarily someone who is endorsed by
- 8:26Speaker 2: the others. Now, she went on to describe many of
- 8:29Speaker 2: those involved in saying, look, they're all fighting, and they
- 8:32Speaker 2: all are saying they're in charge. The reality is the
- 8:36Speaker 2: ircg's overall military structure is who's in charge of the military,
- 8:40Speaker 2: and it's external operations and relationships with Iran aligned armed groups.
- 8:46Speaker 2: I mean, the terrorist groups are also under the IRGC's control.
- 8:51Speaker 2: But you contrast that to the actual government, the political camp. Well,
- 8:55Speaker 2: at this point, we don't know if the negotiators are
- 8:57Speaker 2: actually talking to the people who are in charge, and
- 9:00Speaker 2: that is why the president clearly is so frustrated at
- 9:03Speaker 2: this point. Now, what we do know is the president
- 9:06Speaker 2: is continuing the pressure on Iran, including military strikes, and
- 9:10Speaker 2: it'll be very interesting to see what happens over the weekend.
- 9:15Speaker 2: There is anger erupting right now as US brand fires
- 9:20Speaker 2: one thousand, six hundred employees after securing thousands of foreign
- 9:25Speaker 2: worker visas. One lawmaker now calling to end the H
- 9:30Speaker 2: one B foreign worker program entirely to prioritize American workers first. Now,
- 9:37Speaker 2: this also comes as the President was saying, you need
- 9:39Speaker 2: to pay a premium to secure these types of visas,
- 9:42Speaker 2: and of course a liberal judge is slapping that down.
- 9:47Speaker 5: John, good evening to you. This came out of Boston.
- 9:49Speaker 5: A federal judge in Boston rule today the one hundred
- 9:52Speaker 5: thousand dollars payment the Trump administration demanded employers pay to
- 9:56Speaker 5: bring applicants from overseas to work here in the US's
- 9:59Speaker 5: con considered a tax and that the White House doesn't
- 10:02Speaker 5: have the power to unilaterally impose such a fees. The
- 10:04Speaker 5: latest court case that found President Trump unlawfully acted without
- 10:08Speaker 5: express congressional approval. The policy put into effect last year
- 10:12Speaker 5: up the fee from between two to five thousand dollars
- 10:15Speaker 5: to one hundred thousand dollars per application to have employers
- 10:19Speaker 5: bring up to between sixty five and eighty five thousand
- 10:21Speaker 5: high skilled foreign tech and university workers to the United
- 10:25Speaker 5: States each year, with what's called a H one B visa.
- 10:28Speaker 5: According to court records last year, there were about three
- 10:32Speaker 5: to six years that these lasted. The H one B
- 10:34Speaker 5: program was created in nineteen ninety. The judge today rights
- 10:38Speaker 5: here the substance and application of the one hundred thousand
- 10:40Speaker 5: dollars payment reveal that it is a tax regardless of
- 10:43Speaker 5: what the payment is called. The higher fees were designed
- 10:46Speaker 5: to prioritize US citizens over foreign workers. In a statement,
- 10:50Speaker 5: a White House spokeswoman says the administration will appeal and
- 10:53Speaker 5: feel confident.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So there you can see how the President feels about
- 10:57Speaker 2: this issue and why.
- 10:59Speaker 1: While a pop the early US.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Based gaming brand owned by Microsoft, is now facing a
- 11:04Speaker 2: fury after mass employee layoffs occurred in the wake of
- 11:08Speaker 2: the company being approved for thousands of foreign worker visas.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Microsoft announced that it will lay off four thousand, eight
- 11:16Speaker 2: hundred people total, and one thousand, six hundred from the
- 11:20Speaker 2: corporation's Xbox division, which makes and sells the dominant video
- 11:25Speaker 2: game console You not as Xbox. Meanwhile, Microsoft has also
- 11:30Speaker 2: at the same time well they've been approved to hire
- 11:34Speaker 2: from foreign countries two thousand, two hundred and seventy three
- 11:39Speaker 2: employer sponsored non immigrant workers under what is known as
- 11:43Speaker 2: the H one B visa program that all coming from
- 11:47Speaker 2: the data from the US Citizen and Immigration Services knows
- 11:51Speaker 2: as the uscis. Now, there are a lot of people
- 11:55Speaker 2: that are angry about this, claim that American jobs are
- 11:58Speaker 2: being unfairly and to foreigners in an effort to cut
- 12:01Speaker 2: labor costs, but at a cost of leaving US workers
- 12:05Speaker 2: well without a job.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Quote.
- 12:08Speaker 2: A great way to fix this is to throw anyone
- 12:11Speaker 2: doing this in prison. That's what one user on x said.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Another one said, fire Americans and replace with thousands of
- 12:19Speaker 2: visa workers straight to jail. An asset sees, now this
- 12:24Speaker 2: story has happened over and over again, but it seems
- 12:27Speaker 2: to be getting worse. Another social media user said it
- 12:31Speaker 2: is the fault of our government for approving the H
- 12:34Speaker 2: one bs, referring to the visa saying our government has
- 12:38Speaker 2: sold us out of jobs at home and those being
- 12:41Speaker 2: moved to other countries. Another described the H one B
- 12:45Speaker 2: program as industrial scale job theft from Americans. Now, Microsoft,
- 12:50Speaker 2: to put in perspective, is the sixth largest beneficiary of
- 12:54Speaker 2: the H one B visa program. It's overwhelmingly dominated by
- 12:58Speaker 2: workers from India. The company has even more H one
- 13:03Speaker 2: B applications pending as well. Not to be clear, Microsoft
- 13:07Speaker 2: has employees worldwide, but most are in the United States
- 13:10Speaker 2: of America disproportionately. These decisions are based on business need
- 13:15Speaker 2: not visa status. H one B employees were also impacted
- 13:20Speaker 2: by job eliminations in the US.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Is what a microspot golly.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Is what a Microsoft spokesman told Fox News Digital when
- 13:28Speaker 2: they were asked about the shocking layoffs. Quote, every single
- 13:32Speaker 2: employer is exploiting the H one B visa program is
- 13:36Speaker 2: what the Project for Immigration Reform said, and lawmakers are
- 13:41Speaker 2: even calling for a complete end to the non immigrant
- 13:44Speaker 2: visa program. This is insane. Legal immigration is a major problem.
- 13:50Speaker 2: These companies, especially big tech, are abusing these immigration programs
- 13:55Speaker 2: to replace American workers with foreign workers, is what Representative
- 14:00Speaker 2: Riley Moore, a Republican from West Virginia, said, saying no more,
- 14:05Speaker 2: it's a long past time to end the H ONEB scam. Now,
- 14:09Speaker 2: Xbox CEO side of the company's financial health for their layoffs,
- 14:13Speaker 2: saying quote, our business today is not healthy. We are
- 14:16Speaker 2: operating at margins that are three to ten x lower
- 14:20Speaker 2: than comparable platforms and publishing businesses. They also added that
- 14:25Speaker 2: the strategy is to reset Xbox now. Many critics, however,
- 14:30Speaker 2: claim that the CEO, well, she's full of it, and
- 14:34Speaker 2: also claiming that her Indian heritage played a major role
- 14:37Speaker 2: in firing the Americans given the percentage of H ONEB
- 14:41Speaker 2: workers from India. She was actually born just to put
- 14:44Speaker 2: in perspective in Wisconsin.
- 14:46Speaker 1: But that is the fight online now.
- 14:48Speaker 2: The Vice President, Jade Vance, also announced on Tuesday a
- 14:53Speaker 2: large scale investigation into H one B visus.
- 14:58Speaker 4: One of the reasons why I personally care some much
- 15:00Speaker 4: about fraud. I want to save every single one of
- 15:02Speaker 4: you money, but I also want to ensure that when
- 15:04Speaker 4: a young mom goes in to get some prenatal vitamins
- 15:08Speaker 4: and she can't afford them, she's able to get access
- 15:10Speaker 4: to them because a fraudster hasn't taken advantage of that program.
- 15:14Speaker 4: Part of what we're trying to do is to ensure
- 15:17Speaker 4: that these programs exist for the next generation. Look, just
- 15:21Speaker 4: take one of the biggest, the biggest federal programs out there,
- 15:26Speaker 4: Social Security. People to pay into Social Security for their
- 15:29Speaker 4: entire working lives every single day or every two weeks,
- 15:33Speaker 4: I should say, we get a paycheck and we see
- 15:35Speaker 4: on that paycheck, the amount of money that is going
- 15:37Speaker 4: to Social Security. I am worried that if we don't
- 15:41Speaker 4: stop sending Social Security checks to illegal immigrants, that people
- 15:44Speaker 4: who paid into it for their entire lives are never
- 15:46Speaker 4: going to have access to that money. That's a scam
- 15:49Speaker 4: and it's totally unacceptable. So the most important thing we
- 15:52Speaker 4: can do to ensure those benefits exist for the people
- 15:55Speaker 4: who earned them is to make sure that the fraudsters
- 15:58Speaker 4: don't get them, that the American people.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Do jd Vance making it clear that all types of
- 16:04Speaker 2: fraud are exactly what they're going after each and every day.
- 16:08Speaker 3: Now.
- 16:09Speaker 2: The Vice President also went on to say at that event,
- 16:11Speaker 2: this today, I'm proud to announce that the Federal Department
- 16:14Speaker 2: of Labor has started dozens of subpoenas and investigations into
- 16:19Speaker 2: foreign fraudsters who are trying to take advantage of the
- 16:23Speaker 2: H one B visa program. American jobs ought to go
- 16:27Speaker 2: to American workers and not foreign fraudsters, and the Department
- 16:31Speaker 2: of Labor is fighting back against it now. Recently, President
- 16:36Speaker 2: Donald Trump tried to limit employer's use of the H
- 16:39Speaker 2: one B program by as you heard earlier, imposing one
- 16:43Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars fee for companies seeking an H one
- 16:46Speaker 2: B application, a federal judge striking down that order, and
- 16:51Speaker 2: that is going to mean that there's going to be
- 16:53Speaker 2: a bigger fight moving forward. What you can expect from
- 16:56Speaker 2: the President of the White House is they're going to
- 16:57Speaker 2: fight this all the way until the end. They believe
- 17:01Speaker 2: that they have the right to do exactly what they
- 17:03Speaker 2: did with the H one B application program. The federal
- 17:07Speaker 2: judge saying, well, this amounts to a tax, and only
- 17:10Speaker 2: Congress has the ability to impose a tax, not the president. Well,
- 17:16Speaker 2: maybe it's time for Republicans to move on this in Congress.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Americans are certainly watching right now and seeing what happens next.
- 17:24Speaker 2: But if there's anything you can count on, it's clearly this.
- 17:28Speaker 2: The Trump administration has made it abundantly clear. It doesn't
- 17:31Speaker 2: matter what type of fraud that you are involved in.
- 17:35Speaker 2: We will find you, we will hunt you down, we
- 17:38Speaker 2: will charge you at crimes, we will send you out
- 17:41Speaker 2: of this country if we need to.
- 17:43Speaker 1: And we're not backing down.
- 17:44Speaker 2: And there's not a single government program that's off limits
- 17:47Speaker 2: from them investigating. And that is part of the reason
- 17:50Speaker 2: why you're seeing fraud in education and even with work visus.
- 17:55Speaker 2: It's clear Democrats knew this was happening and deliberately look
- 17:59Speaker 2: the other way for years. Well, now President Trump is saying,
- 18:02Speaker 2: We're going to expose it all. President Donald Trump giving
- 18:06Speaker 2: us another example of why the Trump administration says rooting
- 18:10Speaker 2: out government waste, government fraud and abuse isn't just a
- 18:14Speaker 2: campaign slogan, It's a governing priority of this administration. There
- 18:20Speaker 2: is new explosive reports out that allege that investigators have
- 18:24Speaker 2: uncovered more than two hundred and twenty five million and
- 18:28Speaker 2: suspected K through twelve education fraud. Adding to what the
- 18:33Speaker 2: administration says, a growing list of cases where taxpayer dollars
- 18:37Speaker 2: intended for America's children instead end up enriching bad actors. Now,
- 18:43Speaker 2: it's also important to make one major distinction right at
- 18:46Speaker 2: the beginning of this conversation. Now, these are allegations and
- 18:50Speaker 2: investigative findings, not criminal convictions yet. But if even a
- 18:55Speaker 2: fraction of these allegations are ultimately proven true, taxpayers have
- 19:00Speaker 2: every reason to be enraged by the stealing of your dollars.
- 19:05Speaker 2: And it also explains why public education is failing. Are
- 19:08Speaker 2: young people think about this money and what it was
- 19:12Speaker 2: supposed to do. It was supposed to buy textbooks. It
- 19:16Speaker 2: was supposed to help children learn to read, to deal
- 19:19Speaker 2: with learning disabilities and support. It was supposed to fund
- 19:23Speaker 2: special education services for a multitude of children. It was
- 19:27Speaker 2: supposed to pay for classroom technology, tutoring, even transportation, school meals,
- 19:33Speaker 2: and resources for the teachers. Instead, according to investigators, nationwide,
- 19:40Speaker 2: millions and millions and millions of dollars have been diverted
- 19:44Speaker 2: through fraudulent schemes that were easy to catch. Clearly, the
- 19:48Speaker 2: school district's choosing to look the other way, and that
- 19:51Speaker 2: is exactly why President Trump has repeatedly argued that Washington
- 19:56Speaker 2: needs far more oversight of taxpayer spending. And let's be clear,
- 20:01Speaker 2: throughout Trump's second administration, he's been fighting fraud and it's
- 20:06Speaker 2: become a centerpiece of his domestic agenda. Now it doesn't
- 20:09Speaker 2: matter what type of fraud it is. Could be medicaid fraud,
- 20:12Speaker 2: Medicare fraud, pandemic relief abuse, unemployment insurance scams, even immigration
- 20:17Speaker 2: related benefits fraud. But now it's hardcore education fraud. The
- 20:23Speaker 2: White House has consistently argued that billions of taxpayer dollars
- 20:27Speaker 2: have been lost because of well the previous administration's failure
- 20:31Speaker 2: to aggressively investigate and not only investigate, but prosecute the
- 20:36Speaker 2: egregious financial abuse. The administration's message is simple. Every dollar
- 20:42Speaker 2: stolen from a taxpayer is a dollar stolen from hardworking Americans,
- 20:47Speaker 2: and every dollar stolen from a classroom is a dollar
- 20:50Speaker 2: stolen from a child and their future. Now, according to
- 20:54Speaker 2: the investigators, many of these education fraud cases involved the
- 20:59Speaker 2: misuse of federal education grants, then fake vendors, inflated invoices,
- 21:06Speaker 2: duplicate billing, false reimbursement requests, conflicts of interest, and then
- 21:12Speaker 2: various schemes they say, designed to siphon public money away
- 21:16Speaker 2: from the students and into the private pockets of corrupt individuals. Now,
- 21:22Speaker 2: this is exactly the type of fraud schemes that inspector
- 21:25Speaker 2: generals have warned Congress about for years now. One of
- 21:29Speaker 2: the main problems is that whenever the federal government rapidly
- 21:32Speaker 2: increases spending, and we've seen that happen countless times with
- 21:35Speaker 2: public education, while oversight and this could be on purpose
- 21:39Speaker 2: by the Left, have often struggled to keep pace. We
- 21:44Speaker 2: saw that, by the way, clearly during the COVID relief.
- 21:48Speaker 2: We saw it with unemployment benefits, we saw it with
- 21:51Speaker 2: small business relief, and investigators now say education funding has
- 21:56Speaker 2: become another area requiring far greater accountability. The Trump administration
- 22:02Speaker 2: argues this isn't simply about recovering money. It's also about
- 22:05Speaker 2: restoring confidence the government can actually protect taxpayer dollars because,
- 22:10Speaker 2: let's be honest, Americans don't mind investing in education. Polling
- 22:14Speaker 2: has shown that over and over again. And also we
- 22:17Speaker 2: know that most parents and grandparents want incredible quality schools.
- 22:21Speaker 2: Most taxpayers are happy to support children's futures. What frustrates
- 22:26Speaker 2: people is discovering that when the money that they've given
- 22:29Speaker 2: that was intended for students may instead be well financing
- 22:33Speaker 2: straight up fraud and corruption. There's also another aspect of this.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Imagine being a teacher buying classroom supplies out of your
- 22:41Speaker 2: own pocket while someone else is stealing hundreds of thousands
- 22:44Speaker 2: or even millions of dollars through fraudulent contracts or fake
- 22:48Speaker 2: billing or duplicate billing. And that's what makes stories like
- 22:52Speaker 2: this so infuriating. Teachers often spend their own money on pencils, paper,
- 22:56Speaker 2: classroom decorations, science projects, and even books, investigators are alleging
- 23:03Speaker 2: enormous sums disappeared through fraudulent activity as well. President Trump
- 23:07Speaker 2: has repeatedly said the US government shouldn't automatically ask taxpayers
- 23:13Speaker 2: for more money until it proves it can responsibly manage
- 23:16Speaker 2: the money that it already takes in that it already has,
- 23:20Speaker 2: and stories like this, while they strengthen the president's argument,
- 23:23Speaker 2: supporters of President Trump also point to the broader pattern here.
- 23:27Speaker 2: For years, federal watchdogs have warned about weak internal controls.
- 23:32Speaker 2: They've warned about insufficient auditing, they have warned about outdated
- 23:37Speaker 2: accounting systems, and they've warned about agencies failing to verify
- 23:41Speaker 2: where grant money actually even goes. And that's where the
- 23:44Speaker 2: fraudsers come in and they exploit exactly these weaknesses. Well,
- 23:49Speaker 2: the administration says it's crackdown is design to change that
- 23:53Speaker 2: by increasing investigations as well as expanding forensic audits, coordinating
- 23:58Speaker 2: more closely with inspector general roles, and pursuing both civil
- 24:02Speaker 2: and criminal enforcement when it's appropriate. And that extends beyond education.
- 24:08Speaker 2: The administration has highlighted investigations also into healthcare fraud, benefits fraud,
- 24:14Speaker 2: procurement fraud disaster, relieve fraud, and organize criminal schemes targeting
- 24:19Speaker 2: federal programs and the criminals they've gotten insanely rich off
- 24:23Speaker 2: of all of this, Officials argue that recovering stolen taxpayer
- 24:27Speaker 2: dollars not only helped reduce waste, but also it does
- 24:31Speaker 2: something important without cutting legitimate services.
- 24:35Speaker 1: That's an important distinction.
- 24:37Speaker 2: The goal, according to the Trump administration, isn't taking resources
- 24:40Speaker 2: away from students. It's making sure the money actually reaches
- 24:44Speaker 2: those students at all, because every fraudulent dollar means fewer
- 24:48Speaker 2: legitimate resources are available for the classroom and for the individual.
- 24:52Speaker 2: The broader political debate here is also significant because for years,
- 24:56Speaker 2: many in Washington have responded to challenges in education proposing
- 25:01Speaker 2: one thing, more money, larger budgets, and President Trump is
- 25:05Speaker 2: arguing now yet again that before we appropriate any additional funds,
- 25:10Speaker 2: much less billions of dollars, it should first eliminate the fraud,
- 25:14Speaker 2: the waste, the abuse that's already deep entrenched inside of
- 25:17Speaker 2: the education system. That's also a message that is likely
- 25:22Speaker 2: to resonate with many taxpayers come the mid terms. After all,
- 25:26Speaker 2: if a private company discovered hundreds of millions of dollars
- 25:28Speaker 2: being stolen internally, shareholders wouldn't approve another spending increase without
- 25:33Speaker 2: demanding accountability first, and that's exactly what the present's advocating for.
- 25:39Speaker 2: Government should not operate under a lower standard. And the
- 25:42Speaker 2: other major question is this oversight. How long do these
- 25:46Speaker 2: alleged schemes continue. We're warning signs completely ignored to whistleblowers
- 25:52Speaker 2: raise concerns. We're audits delayed where agencies properly monitoring grant receipts.
- 25:59Speaker 2: These are questions and investigators in Congress will continue to examine.
- 26:04Speaker 2: It's also worth remembering that education funding involves multiple layers
- 26:08Speaker 2: of government. Federal dollars often flow through state agencies and
- 26:12Speaker 2: then to local school districts or nonprofit organizations. That complexity
- 26:17Speaker 2: can create opportunities for fraud if oversight breaks down at
- 26:21Speaker 2: any stage, and clearly it did. That's one of the
- 26:24Speaker 2: reasons that Trump and his investigators say it's important that
- 26:27Speaker 2: transparency be shown. The administration argues that technology, data analytics,
- 26:33Speaker 2: and stronger financial controls can actually help deter suspicious transactions
- 26:37Speaker 2: much earlier, so instead of discovering fraud at this level
- 26:41Speaker 2: years later, the Trump administration won systems capable of identifying
- 26:46Speaker 2: unusual spending patterns in real time. Now, for taxpayers, this
- 26:50Speaker 2: story touches on something much larger than education. It really
- 26:54Speaker 2: goes down to the issue of trust. Americans work hard
- 26:57Speaker 2: for their paychecks, and they should demand a government and
- 27:00Speaker 2: expect the government is going to be a responsible steward
- 27:04Speaker 2: of the taxes they send to Washington. But when headlines
- 27:07Speaker 2: reveal hundreds of millions of dollars in fraud, while confidence disappears,
- 27:12Speaker 2: doesn't just a road. And that's why the administration says
- 27:15Speaker 2: accountability isn't optional, it's a mandatory essential. Every fraudulent scheme
- 27:21Speaker 2: uncovered sends two messages. First, investigators are finding the problem
- 27:26Speaker 2: that need fixing, and second, potential frauds ers are being
- 27:30Speaker 2: warned that enforcement is increasing.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Now.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Whether these investigations ultimately result in indictments, conviction settlements, or
- 27:37Speaker 2: recovered funds remains to be seen, but one thing is clear.
- 27:41Speaker 2: The Trump administration intends to make fraud enforcement a defining
- 27:45Speaker 2: part of its governing philosophy. President Trump is repeatedly argued
- 27:50Speaker 2: that before asking Americans to sacrifice more, Washington must clean
- 27:54Speaker 2: up its own books. And that is exactly what they
- 27:57Speaker 2: found from this investigation. Make sure you share this podcast
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