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Ways To Love · Spinning the Light Podcast

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Hello and welcome to two girls in the pod.
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I'm Sharon. I am Christy.
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Hello hello hello Hope all of you are doing well.
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You know, a little technical difficulties here, but we got it
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all under control. Yep.
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Let's see today. We're talking about.
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We're talking about. The.
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Ways that we love one another. Yeah.
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And and you know, I think, you know why I think this is
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fascinating to me is because The Five Love languages.
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I'm telling you, it's a great book.
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That's all. But people take that so
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literally sometimes. As a therapist, it's difficult
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for me. Yeah, I understand what they're
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the book is saying and and all of that, But I think sometimes
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when we do stuff like that, we limit ourselves.
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There are, I think, that we there are so many ways to show
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how we love people, and those ways can vary from person to
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person and even from situation to situation, I think.
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Relationships are different. Yes, they are.
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But you know I think that we've talked about that you know how
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does how does somebody know that you you love them.
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And and I think sometimes it's kind of an interesting thing
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because you know what I would teach parenting class.
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I always found it fascinating that when we would I would ask
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that question how do your children know you love them the
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women. Well, I I hug them and I tell
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them and I, you know, I play with them or you know, they
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would men. Well, I fix the bike.
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I hear up the tire. I, you know make sure there's
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plenty of money. I do.
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You see what I mean? And each one, I think, truly,
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truly was loving their children. Exactly.
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Do you see what I mean? And and you do the best that you
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can and I think that that's what they're doing when they're, you
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know, doing stuff like that. I mean, my dad was a workaholic
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growing up and he, he was doing his best and providing for his
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family and now is definitely the way that he showed love.
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And I mean not the only way. I'm really grateful that my dad
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was really, you know, he was connected with me and so it's
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not like he was disengaged, even though he was working a lot.
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And I have to say the same thing for my dad.
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You know, sometimes he would be out there playing, you know, he
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would shoot for this. He would do different things.
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You know what my dad was not wanting to say I love you that,
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but that king, you know, it would time that king.
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And you know, after that, I don't remember my dad ever
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hanging up the phone without saying I love you.
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We've always been a family that has always done that.
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We've always said I love you and I know there are families out
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there that don't. And not that they don't love
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each other. It's just not part of their how
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they express it or whatever. And and it's not that any way is
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the wrong way. But I think sometimes people
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might feel like they're loving the wrong way or something.
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I don't know. But I think the bigger thing is,
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is sometimes we will say I love you, but there has to be a
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behavior that follows, there has to be something that matches up
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with it and I think that's sometimes where I see that
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breakdown. Yeah, definitely.
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I mean, you can feel when there's an incongruency in what
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somebody's saying and and how they're treating you.
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And it's the other thing that's interesting to me is in all
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these years I've been a therapist where people sit there
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and say, well, I don't know how to do that.
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And sometimes they marry into a family and it's like, why y'all
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you know, they, they don't do the touchy feely.
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They don't, you know, all of those things.
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They just don't do. And there are some cultures
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that, you know, they they base that idea of, you know, it's
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about love, but that's about supporting an entire family.
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Sometimes you have extended families that live together and
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that and they think that, you know, traditionally this is how
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you show your love. Is that you basically I mean
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share that whole responsibility of of everything.
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And I mean, so that's different than even what you see a lot of
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times here in the US. Well, I think the other thing
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that's really funny is I have a friend from Japan and as a
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Christmas gift I gave her a thing to call her mom for the
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holiday. And so she does and and I'm
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listening to her talk and I'm thinking, I wonder if they're
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mad at each other because it the the tones or whatever.
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So when she gets off the phone, I says, or did you tell your mom
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you loved her? And she looks at me, she goes,
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no, because they don't have to it.
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It's very respectful. They know that.
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It's just a different thing. And I was like, oh, interesting,
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I was a lot younger than they didn't know as many things, I
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guess, but it was, it was fascinating and and I find, you
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know, you know, even looking culturally and stuff like that,
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our culture determines some of that stuff.
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There's a lot of different things that go into that.
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And you know, even when you marry into different cultures
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how that expression of love is, sometimes it's through food.
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Yeah. You know they love you, 'cause
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they're cooking for you. In the South, that's for sure
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what they try to do. I think that's in the Latin
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culture too. Yeah, they definitely try to
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love people up by over feeding them.
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They're. Like Aquista Comida, Yeah,
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that's what you need. More food.
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But you know, I mean, it's it's all of those things.
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But the thing that I find that people talk to me the most about
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when it comes to love is this person says that they love me,
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but I don't feel that where I don't see it or I don't or it's
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like I really love when you touch me like that and then they
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probably go and do something different.
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It's like, I don't get it. I don't, but I this is something
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that's been a it. It's kind of interesting because
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it's been kind of a little theme with my clients for about maybe
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a month. I'll use that.
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But that's interesting to me because it's like, how do you
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know, You know? And then like some parents,
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well, jeez, I don't even feel like my teens love me, man.
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They don't even talk to me. And I always remind them.
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They're just, it's not that they stop loving you, it's that
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they're gross in that and they're into their finding their
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identity and all of those other things that are relevant and
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important to them. So I think that's a huge thing
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because we we look at the behaviors and we we we make them
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about us. We.
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Take them all. Personally, and I was, and I had
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my clients do the four agreements.
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Don't take things personally. Don't make assumptions.
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Do your best and well, speak your truth and do your best.
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Basically, say what you mean and mean what you say.
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Right. And if I'm not taking it and and
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I'm not making an assumption, if somebody doesn't react to
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respond, that doesn't mean they don't love me.
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And if I don't feel that, if I if I'm not feeling that love,
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how can I get comfortable to ask or to say I need you to do this
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or I need you to do that. But then some people with the
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love languages, I love that. Well, you know my love is
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gifting. Yeah.
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And the fall by the other one saying, well, you know, my love
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was physical touch. Oh yeah, but that's not my love
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language, You know, they're sort of like, OK, you know, we're a
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little more diverse than that. Y'all we can move around in
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these love languages. But but sometimes people
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understand that the love languages, I think were just a
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definition of the different types of love.
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Not that it's not been made to take literally it in that
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aspect. It's to say these are different
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forms of showing love, and people might fall into one
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category more than the other, but it's not that I'm only one.
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Yeah, definitely not one-dimensional.
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I've never read the book, but I think that it it, it sounds like
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that. I mean, I would guess that the
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mess more of the message would be that you would really maybe
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this is where you really shine, but not that that's the only way
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that the only. Place you can shine.
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Yeah. But.
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But I think that maybe it's because people struggle with
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that. And you know, sometimes it's how
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do we develop into the loving person that we are and how we
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express that love, I think is part of our upbringing.
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It's part. I think there's some of that
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that's intrinsic to us as well. You know what I mean?
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But I think that that thing of how do I show love?
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Because I I hear this. I really want my spouse to my
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wife and my husband to do this because that's what I real
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That's how I feel loved. But they only do this.
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But they, you know, and I'm they're like, OK, but I
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understand that's how you feel love, but it's is it the only
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way you're capable of feeling love.
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And want to get stuck. One of the key things, I think
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it always goes back to communication.
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And you know, if you're not getting what you feel like that
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you need, you need to be able to at least communicate to that
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person. And I think to be able to be
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aware of can be present with people.
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And So what I mean by that is if I'm being present with people
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and I'm listening, we you can figure out what's important to
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them. So if we have a, we have a
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friend who gifting is really her way of saying I love you because
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she's very consciously aware of it or whatever.
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And you can you just see it in her and you see it and you feel
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it when she gives it to you. But if I'm sitting there
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thinking I really would like for her to tell me, she let me know.
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Whatever that is, I'm not going to feel it.
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I I'm so in here that I'm not paying attention to hear of to
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what I'm really experiencing in that exchange.
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Yeah, sometimes we have such an idea of what we think love
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should look like or whatever. And and we are not realizing
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some of the things that that other person is doing is that
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that's what they're trying to convey.
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But we're not receiving the message because of what our idea
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is. That no preconceived idea, our
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perspective on what love is, you know, and I think that the
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beauty of love is we have the capacity to love in so many
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different ways and we love people differently.
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You know what I mean? And there's so many degrees and
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layers of it, which I think is wonderful, you know?
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And people love their children different than they love their
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spouse. We love our friends.
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We love our our, our acquaintances, you know, just
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just in general. We just love differently and we
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don't show that love the same way to everybody because of the
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degree of intimacy and all of that that goes into it.
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And there's a lot of people have some convoluted ideas about like
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what love should look like or or there's like jealousy or things
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like that. They think that somehow they're
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not feeling the love because they feel like that you're
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you're putting more. I don't know.
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Or it's I'm jealous. So that's how you know I love
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you. Yeah.
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You know, and I mean love is, and I always tell people when I
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talk about this with them, I always remind them that you
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know, and I even you know, when I'm talking even about
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relationships, I always tell a relationship is a gift and it
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becomes our responsibility to nurture that gift.
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And when somebody loves us, it is not ownership.
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Right. You know, we don't own those
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people. And we've talked about that in a
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previous episode, Attachment versus Love.
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And I think that a lot of people do get completely confused about
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that. They don't realize that that,
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that piece, that jealousy, things like that come from this
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idea that we have some kind of ownership.
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Well, and I think it comes from lack of you know when when I
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lack and sometimes it's that thing of trying to lack that
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ability to express communicate. I think it's is really what it
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is is because we get into this place of I want to show you that
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I love you and I'm and to do that I'm going to take away
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everything else that you have and you're going to become my
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whole world. That is dangerous.
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Well, it it's not only dangerous, it's not healthy.
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It's not healthy. That's why it's dangerous.
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But yeah, but that person, I think, really does believe in
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their head that that is love. But once again, what?
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What were they showing? How was that conveyed?
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You know, in a lot of times I think we see that more as
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insecurities and people, people get insecure.
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They feel insecure about what's going on, you know?
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Or I think it's like maybe it's more that they don't know how
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to. Maybe they don't feel like
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they're worthy of love in a way. That's exactly what I was going
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to say is that I think that most of the time it comes back to
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those insecurities come back to I'm not worthy to receive that
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kind of love or you know, and I don't think that's a forefront
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thought in their mind. It's just sometimes when you see
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people, I feel like trying to manipulate something or that to
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elicit the response that they want, You know, I feel like that
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that's it comes from that insecurity that is a place of
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suffering, I really. Feel like at the end of the day
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everybody wants to feel loved. Yeah, everybody wants to feel.
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But I am telling it is so weird to me when I'm doing my job and
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I tell people and and we're talking about self love and
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stuff, what a struggle it is for them to say they love
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themselves. It's bizarre to me.
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They they really struggle with that piece of it.
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They struggle with how can I love myself and if I can't, if
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if I'm at a place where I can't even love myself and I can't
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even say to myself I love myself.
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It's sad to me and and it really is because we should embrace who
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we are and we should have that S flow because when we have that,
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that once again radiates out to other people and then we have
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this capacity to love in a very different way.
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Exactly. When we talk about love, I think
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there's it's such a powerful emotion.
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It has such a power to it. The energy of love is so
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amazing. It is so grand you.
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Know. And there's so many ways to
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express it. I had recently posted a meme on
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2 Girls on a Pod on Facebook. Please follow.
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You may not be able to change the entire world, but you can
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release your love and watch it. It's vibrant colors, paint the
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world around you with kindness and patience and watch your
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little part of it change for the better.
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And I think that that's that's really what it comes down to.
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I mean, when we express love, no matter how we do it, it comes
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back to us and we we see it play out in our lives in a different
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way. And by the way, that little
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saying was by somebody. I can't see her name.
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But anyway, definitely look it up on Facebook.
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But you know. I think The thing is, and you
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know, even when I'm talking to people in there, they're talking
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about all the stuff going on in the world or this, that or the
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other. I always tell them the way we
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bring about change starts in our own home.
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How do we love in our home? How do we love and nurture that
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love? How do we love and nurture
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people? And then from our home it goes
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out into our community and then it goes out into the world.
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You know, there was that all we need is love.
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But I think there's something about that.
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I think not when we love people and and we're able to express
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that and there is such a vibration to it exactly.
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You know, that's vibrating higher.
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Yes. It's sad when people get stuck
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in This is My way of loving and you've got to accept my way of
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loving and and I'm doing that and they're forcing.
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No. Love is a feeling.
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And when we love, I really do believe people will experience
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that. They will feel that not by what
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we do, not by gifting sometimes, not by the hug, not by that.
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Because sometimes I feel like people know that love from you
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even when you're not touching or you're not talking or it could
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be anything like that. So that tells you the power of
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the energy of that love. Yeah.
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But we, we, we keep getting confused on it.
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And once again, we keep listening to all these other
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ideas And you know, you, you love them by you go out and you
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work hard, you know, and you know it's not about, you know,
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you're a man. It's not about you telling them
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or showing them or doing that. You know, you do this.
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And so people get into this thing, and with the woman is you
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put. You know what?
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When you love your children, all that your husband, they come
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first. You wait to buy those shoes.
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Who cares that your toes have been shown for a month?
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Do you see what I mean? We have.
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Some really toxic ideas sometimes about how to express
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love. Absolutely.
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And because of that toxicity around it, it it doesn't just
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impact the person who has those ideas.
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It affects the people that they're engaging with.
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And it it becomes an example to, you know, even like with your
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children, I mean how you express that love to one another, it's
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it's truly through example that they learn about that and what
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that means what what it does it mean to love somebody.
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What does that look like? And you know.
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Even as we're talking, as you're listening to this, take a moment
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and think those people in my life who I really feel that how
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what is that exchange happening? Is it only when they're doing
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gifting or or touch or, you know, affirmations or is it that
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or are you truly feeling it because you're actually open and
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engaged with it? We we're not present.
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Even if somebody is telling this person I love you, they're not
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hearing that. They're not expressing that.
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They're not feeling it. So how do we change that is
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through the things that we do? Yeah, and we only can do that
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through behavior. Sometimes our behaviors are
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going to express that. But the thing that we need to do
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is remember that even within that we cannot take on somebody
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else's. We have to be true and authentic
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to ourselves. And if we're true and authentic
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to ourselves in that area of love, I feel like that will
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radiate with the people around us.
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Do you see what I mean? But if we're not doing that,
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we're going to get caught up in loving people with somebody
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else's ideas. And if we're loving people with
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other people's ideas, we're not being our authentic self.
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And sometimes I feel like people would rather love the way they
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want to, but they get so caught up in the ideas of others.
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And I'm going to use man for a minute.
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If I sit there and say be mushy, then I'm not manly, you know
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what I mean? I think you'd be mushy and manly
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at the same time. What do you think?
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Mushy and. Manly.
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But I don't think it's mushy. I think that becomes the thing
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or that's a weakness or that that's.
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The stereotype and I really feel like that we need to get past
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that and realize the expression of love.
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No matter how it's done, as long as it's healthy, I don't think
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you should see it as a weakness. Exactly.
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Oh my God, what a strong statement.
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Love should not be ever viewed as a weakness.
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Exactly. But often times I think what we
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do is we do view those things as a weakness or whatever.
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And it's not. It is our strength, our ability
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to love people and ourselves. I feel it's our greatest
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strength and I feel like we continue to get caught up and I
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say we because I think we're all guilty.
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That at some point is we we get caught up in other people's
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ideas or perceptions or all of those things, and we just get
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lost. And I feel like we can get
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unlost. But it's it's that journey.
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It's that thing. It's it's it's truly being in
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that moment. And I always loved doing couples
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counseling and I had this couple of many years ago and we were
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working on this and when they would argue then they would just
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go from separate, she goes. But when I'm mad at him, she
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goes, it's not like I don't love him and I says, but how does he
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know that she kind of sat there. I says, do you stop talking?
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Well, yeah, I says, well, maybe do something different.
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And so she comes back the next week.
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They had a little spat and she was kind of excited.
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And they're like, what is this about, you know?
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And she goes, Oh my God, she goes, my husband and I had a
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little spat and she said I was a little ticked off at him, she
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says. But then when I was walking, I
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went into the laundry room, whatever.
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And she was doing stuff. And when she came back, she was
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just sitting at the kitchen table and she says this walking
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pie. I looked at him.
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I thought, my God, I love that man and I do appreciate the fact
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that he works really hard. I said, did you say that?
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She goes, I'm not there yet. I said OK, she goes, no.
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But what I did do is as I walked behind him, I just reached over
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and she hugged him from behind. She just hugged him, didn't say
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anything, and laughed. And she says, I really do
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believe in that moment that he knew that I still loved him.
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But we argue. We find people go, oh, don't
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love me anymore, No. Definitely.
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It's not that easily you know to say hey, but once.
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Again, I think that does happen though, you know, And people get
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afraid of that if you know parents, if I set boundaries, my
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kids aren't going to love me. They're not, you know?
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No, we don't. I don't believe we stopped
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loving that quickly. It's not that shallow.
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I think that it's a a really big misconception for parents with
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kids because they are so fearful of setting boundaries sometimes
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with them and thinking that it's going to hurt their feelings or
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or whatever and that they're going to like hold a grudge or
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something. I don't know.
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But I think that having that structure and setting those kind
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of boundaries, you're doing the ultimate by preparing them for
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the world ahead of them. And that, I think, is a true
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expression of love, yes. You are helping them to build
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that resilience and the stuff that they're going to face when
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it's not mom and dad. So I think that's huge.
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That is a huge component of saying I love you and you know.
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Shout out to parents because I think as parents you have the
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toughest job in the world. The most important valuable one,
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I think, yes. And not only that, the way a
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parent loves their children. It's not all parents, but I do
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believe it is a huge majority of parents.
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I worked for DHS for a while, you know, as a therapist and
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that. But you know, there's some.
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But I think even then people are doing the best they can with
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whatever skills they have and sometimes they're just really
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fucked up skills sometimes. They don't have, you know.
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Yeah, and not by and sometimes, you know, whatever.
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It's still not an excuse. But what I'm saying is for
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parents, I really feel that they do love their children and
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they're there's such a fear around losing that love, just As
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for a child, their fear of losing a parent's love and I.
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Think that it's really important that they realize too that you
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know, you hear that saying a lot of times from parents that say
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do as I say and not as I do. But you have to realize what an
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impact and impression you make with the things that you do.
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You do set an example. I mean, kids are always watching
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and listening and. You know what one of the things
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is, and I feel very blessed with the parents I had.
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I you know, I I say it all the time.
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I feel very blessed. I I really do feel like each and
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every one of their children felt loved.
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I feel like they showed that in many, many ways.
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And because we could feel that, I feel that that has helped me
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in my ability to show the people that I care about that I love
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them, you know, And there's there's no embarrassment or
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that, you know, going up to friends saying I love you, you
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know, all of those kind of things.
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Because there shouldn't be. But we get, we get stuck on
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these ideas that we can't change how we love.
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And yes, we can. We can change it.
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We can express it differently. We can work on making the way
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what we say match with the behaviors you know, that is so
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important. Once again with the child, you
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can't say those things do as I say, not as I do, because they
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are looking at you. They want to.
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They emulate what they see. So if you start from first with
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them teaching them the value of love, the capacity to love not
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only others but themselves, it's not about it starts with you.
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How do you love yourself in order to love others?
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Because if I'm loving everybody, but I don't care about myself,
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then that's just a travesty to me, you know, so it's about
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working on how do we say those things, but how do we make it
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match? And how do we not get stuck in
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this ideology of I love only this way or this way or that
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way, or if somebody does this, that means that.
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But if they do this, that doesn't mean love.
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We have to communicate that. I think that's the biggest
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thing, is how do we communicate? How do we let people know that
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we love them? But how do we also let people
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know? When you do that, I'm not
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feeling love. But when you do this, I do feel
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love. You know, I think that's such a
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huge thing because how many times in my office I have heard
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people say I don't feel loved, I don't feel loved, I don't feel
27:28
appreciated. I don't feel like they
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understand how much I love them. And when I ask what do you do to
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show that, they will have examples, but they are not
27:41
behaviors that will necessarily tie that in.
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So that's what I work with them on.
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I know you love your children. I can feel it from you, right?
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But you going to work, you fixing the bike, that's not the
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same. The same.
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I love you. That's not the same for a child
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as playing with them or engaging with them or those things.
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Or spouse, it doesn't matter. There has to be an engagement.
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Especially for kids, they don't comprehend that they haven't
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gained those skills yet. To understand why this is
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happening on the backside, why, why you're fixing the bike or
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whatever it is that you're doing, yes, you're fixing.
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It because it's your job, yeah. They don't.
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That's all they know. They think you're the parent.
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Why wouldn't you? You know.
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You don't let me use the tools, so you love your tools more than
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me. No, but.
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Seriously, you know, And that's what I'm saying, you know?
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And I think that's the main thing of this whole podcast is
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it's OK to love. Love is not a weakness.
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The more that we love, I think that the more rich our lives
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really are. How do I love thee?
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Let me count the. Ways.
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And what's the rest? I don't even.
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Know. That was good though, yeah.
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But that's what I mean. It's to not get caught up in one
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specific way or or feel that you're only capable of loving
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one way. Understanding that we're much
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more diverse than that. Listening.
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Actively listen to the people that you love, and when they're
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telling me what they need as far as that goes, listen and then
29:28
actively engage in that. And if you're not feeling that,
29:32
then have a conversation with somebody, whoever that is, they
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have that conversation and then if they don't listen, then
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that's a whole other episode. And sometimes, you know, maybe
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they're not straight out communicating to you
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specifically how you should show your love, but you pay attention
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to the things that they like and realize the interests that they
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have. And even just showing some
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interest in in things that they are interested in.
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That's one way to express love. Yeah, we love that you listen to
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us. That is a form that really is.
30:13
And then once again, there's so many layers and so we would
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30:20
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30:23
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30:28
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30:33
Also, we are on Facebook, Instagram and wherever you
30:37
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Follow us, subscribe, do all that fun stuff, but most
30:44
importantly, go out there and man, spread the love.
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That's what we need to do. Spread the love.
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We will be back next week. Thank you so much.