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- 2:36Speaker 1: actor director of producing Hollywood. More than forty years of
- 2:39Speaker 1: experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke has currently
- 2:42Speaker 1: started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No Sudden Mood,
- 2:46Speaker 1: Debating July one on HBO Max, which I do have
- 2:50Speaker 1: that I will be watching him July one. His acting
- 2:53Speaker 1: credits include reaching television and feature film roles and shows
- 2:56Speaker 1: like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning, That's my
- 2:58Speaker 1: crew over there, The Oval, and the critically acclaimed film Mandy,
- 3:02Speaker 1: and other movies like High Flying Bird. He also known
- 3:05Speaker 1: for roles and Predator. Y'all remember Predator. I've been Predator
- 3:08Speaker 1: now you know. I couldn't see nothing American jigging old
- 3:11Speaker 1: car car was come on Now Action Jackson Command though,
- 3:16Speaker 1: who ministers to side board ministers board that was hard,
- 3:19Speaker 1: that bird on the Y, Get Rich or Die, Tried,
- 3:21Speaker 1: X Man three, and many more film and TV projects.
- 3:24Speaker 1: He's on the show to talk about the movie which
- 3:27Speaker 1: we had just said, Southern No Southern Move, the Duke
- 3:31Speaker 1: Media Foundation, which I really want to talk about, and
- 3:34Speaker 1: you unite network please working the money making conversation again.
- 3:37Speaker 1: He is a Sigma by trade. My man, Bill do
- 3:44Speaker 1: was good to see you, Bill. Dude, Bill, look, you
- 3:47Speaker 1: know what men you we junk off air because I
- 3:49Speaker 1: remember making side five and I always tell people this
- 3:51Speaker 1: mall on the real I tell people I pledged while
- 3:54Speaker 1: I was in college and it changed my life. It
- 3:57Speaker 1: changed my life and fraternitis in general. I talked about
- 3:59Speaker 1: for Turn Together. It's easy to signals. You're gonna pointed
- 4:02Speaker 1: signal like I can't see blue and white. But I
- 4:07Speaker 1: always tell people because a lot of people think that
- 4:10Speaker 1: fraternity row is about party and it's about it's about
- 4:14Speaker 1: having a good time, but really being in a fraternity
- 4:18Speaker 1: changed my perspective, gave me a clear understanding of the community,
- 4:21Speaker 1: and I just wanted to bring that up because you know,
- 4:24Speaker 1: we both are passionate about our fraternities and uh and
- 4:27Speaker 1: we always are telling people the value of fraternity. Talk
- 4:30Speaker 1: about being a member of the sigment of your of
- 4:32Speaker 1: your organization. For a second, Well, first of all, it's
- 4:36Speaker 1: a it's a very happy to be a part of it.
- 4:39Speaker 1: And as you say, many many people think about fraternities
- 4:44Speaker 1: as party. You know, people party from time to time,
- 4:46Speaker 1: but that's not the foundation of it. The foundation of
- 4:49Speaker 1: is a collaboration of brothers coming together to really discuss
- 4:54Speaker 1: and take action on issues that we face as a
- 4:56Speaker 1: culture in our community, from business to whatever politics. But
- 5:03Speaker 1: to have a discussion and we don't have to agree
- 5:06Speaker 1: on everything, but ye mutual respect for each other and
- 5:10Speaker 1: the fact that we can honestly say what we feel
- 5:12Speaker 1: without being judged, you know. And that's that's those those
- 5:17Speaker 1: statements that you say, I echo those statements, but in
- 5:21Speaker 1: because of again, you know, gives you a sense of balance.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And that's why I say, you know, when you want
- 5:25Speaker 1: to go out in the community, because you know, even
- 5:26Speaker 1: though you're an actor, your director, you produce many projects,
- 5:30Speaker 1: it's about your brand, and your brand is entertainment and
- 5:35Speaker 1: in entertainment it does allow you to capture people's attention.
- 5:39Speaker 1: And when you capture people attention, that can allow you
- 5:41Speaker 1: to go And I don't shape their minds, shape their experiences.
- 5:44Speaker 1: And I know we're gonta show to talk about. You know,
- 5:46Speaker 1: the movie that you're starting in the July first is
- 5:49Speaker 1: gonna be on HBO Max. But Bill, do when you
- 5:51Speaker 1: talk about your Deep Duke Media Foundation, tell us why
- 5:55Speaker 1: it's important and why did you started? Well, it's the
- 6:00Speaker 1: same reason I thought of my network. We our generations,
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- 6:28Speaker 1: What are we leaving our children? And that is the
- 6:31Speaker 1: real question, because we have to leave them something that
- 6:36Speaker 1: gives them hope. And so I created my foundation. We
- 6:40Speaker 1: teach basically two things, media literacy for young people are
- 6:44Speaker 1: coming into the business and really want to understand with
- 6:48Speaker 1: the business of the industry really is and how it's changing.
- 6:52Speaker 1: You went from film and television to media when I
- 6:56Speaker 1: when I came up, and I say this all the time,
- 7:00Speaker 1: I had one of the first cell phones and I
- 7:03Speaker 1: think you did too, my brother. Remember the size of
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- 7:27Speaker 1: and we thought we were cool man. We felt we
- 7:29Speaker 1: were the stuff right well. And there was no internet then,
- 7:33Speaker 1: And so I try to talk to him about the
- 7:37Speaker 1: evolution of things with young people from those times to
- 7:41Speaker 1: what they have now and how they can leverage it
- 7:44Speaker 1: to their benefit of their brands, not just being an
- 7:48Speaker 1: actor or director, but what do you believe in? What
- 7:50Speaker 1: is your brand? And how are you gonna fight for it?
- 7:53Speaker 1: Learn the technology, learned the disciplines that go along with that.
- 7:59Speaker 1: So we teach them financial literacy. Um, and we'll talk
- 8:02Speaker 1: about today, I'm sure. But there are people and you
- 8:06Speaker 1: and I both know this for a fact, that make
- 8:08Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars or more. My brother or Brooke,
- 8:13Speaker 1: how do you make a hundred million dollars and go woke?
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- 8:43Speaker 1: are you know? Stocks? So so the thing is that
- 8:47Speaker 1: we give them an understanding of what money is, how
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- 11:01Speaker 1: main station area. And that was always impacts the black
- 11:04Speaker 1: community because we're always battling the fighting for education and
- 11:08Speaker 1: we're always battling the fight for an opportunity. Same thing
- 11:11Speaker 1: happened with the COVID nineteen when it hit. Who did
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- 11:39Speaker 1: we're spending a different dollar. And that's what you're trying
- 11:42Speaker 1: to say right now in this interview, correct Bill, do yes, sir.
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- 12:11Speaker 1: our mistakes so that our young people don't make the
- 12:14Speaker 1: same mistakes. You know, I when you know, when I
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- 12:22Speaker 1: I have made mistakes, but I don't know if they
- 12:24Speaker 1: are mistakes or the experiences. Because if you learn from it,
- 12:27Speaker 1: then it's not a mistake. But you continue to make
- 12:30Speaker 1: the same mistake, then there's a problem because you didn't learn.
- 12:34Speaker 1: And so I've advanced myself called politics. Politics, it's called
- 12:40Speaker 1: that's called being able to to to to negotiate the
- 12:43Speaker 1: right situation because you know yourself, Bill, your your career
- 12:46Speaker 1: has been tied to relationships. Your career has been tied
- 12:49Speaker 1: to people extending their hand, either by surprise or one
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- 13:22Speaker 1: if they got terminated or the contract they get to
- 13:25Speaker 1: extent they shook their hands that thank you for the
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- 13:33Speaker 1: get mad, frustrated, pointing fingers. Okay, guess what you're blowing
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- 13:47Speaker 1: that I'm making the build? Do you are brilliantly putting
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- 13:56Speaker 1: things that I learned a lot from. First he said,
- 14:02Speaker 1: don't be playing checkers in the chess game. And number two,
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- 14:52Speaker 1: You know, uh, I know you're on my show here today.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Money makes Bill Duke talk about no sudden mood just
- 14:58Speaker 1: debate in July one on hb OLD Actually you know
- 15:01Speaker 1: the brilliant producer, director Stephen Salderberg. But prior to all
- 15:06Speaker 1: going on the air, you mentioned the word bid with
- 15:09Speaker 1: you know, like like that, like did did you not
- 15:13Speaker 1: mention that to me? Yes? I mentioned with uh. And
- 15:17Speaker 1: and they send people to Boston on trains when they lose.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And when people play me, they learn from me. I teach,
- 15:25Speaker 1: So so you know, anytime you're ready, I'm gonna teach.
- 15:29Speaker 1: I love my young students. Anytime let me know. Okay,
- 15:34Speaker 1: I'll fly it Bill. What you're gonna do with me? Man,
- 15:38Speaker 1: see what you are doing, fly me in, whoop my butt,
- 15:41Speaker 1: and then fly me back. And that didn't happen like
- 15:43Speaker 1: that because that gives you more smack brown. Okay, I'm
- 15:47Speaker 1: gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know Bill
- 15:50Speaker 1: like I know Bill. They just see that little dark character.
- 15:53Speaker 1: You know, sinister, you know, don't ever smile you walking around.
- 15:57Speaker 1: He might shoot you, knife you, you know, to send
- 16:00Speaker 1: you to hell burn. That's the Bill, y'all know, or
- 16:04Speaker 1: moving to TV. This the Bill I know right here?
- 16:06Speaker 1: You know Smack talk off a laughing all the time.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Uh go go tell me. I come from filth war
- 16:15Speaker 1: in Texas. I grew up with nuneber black people. He
- 16:17Speaker 1: gonna ask me off. Have you ever heard of Bill
- 16:20Speaker 1: with just only asking me to have no dominoes? See,
- 16:23Speaker 1: you can't insult me like that, no mobile, dude. Men,
- 16:25Speaker 1: You're gonna have problems personally. I'm just I'm I was
- 16:34Speaker 1: just exploring, you know, I was asking you a question
- 16:36Speaker 1: of right right right? But he was a brother brother
- 16:39Speaker 1: the brother right there was the brother of the brother conversation. Okay, cool, okay.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I just had to bring that up in the middle
- 16:45Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's
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- 19:11Speaker 1: involvement in this movie. First of all, I'm wanna thank
- 19:14Speaker 1: Stephen for putting me in the movie. I've worked with
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- 20:56Speaker 1: relationships and so used to put your you know, Wayne
- 21:01Speaker 1: Dyre says, every day we have one of two choices.
- 21:04Speaker 1: If we can be a host to God or a
- 21:06Speaker 1: hostage to our ego. Uh in this business, if you're
- 21:09Speaker 1: hostage to your egos, some people get away with it,
- 21:12Speaker 1: But for us as a culture, I think that's a
- 21:15Speaker 1: bad idea. I think establishing relationships, uh, and honing your craft,
- 21:22Speaker 1: because acting directing a craft, so it's writing le other
- 21:26Speaker 1: people are out partying, you should be home studying, learning
- 21:30Speaker 1: because when you party, you've accomplished something that's called the celebration.
- 21:35Speaker 1: So the thing is is that we have to really
- 21:38Speaker 1: start taking it seriously. Today we're saying before life came
- 21:43Speaker 1: into business, there was no internet, there was no social media.
- 21:46Speaker 1: Young people today, Yeah, pictures are important. But if you're
- 21:50Speaker 1: an acting class that you all should be in it,
- 21:53Speaker 1: and you're working on two or three scenes with other
- 21:55Speaker 1: actors for the class, then what you should do is
- 22:00Speaker 1: if you want to picture plus a reel film with
- 22:05Speaker 1: your cell phone the scene that you're rehearsing, right, you
- 22:09Speaker 1: can cut that scene on your computer right and edit
- 22:14Speaker 1: so you don't have to wait to be discovered. You
- 22:16Speaker 1: can you can discover your look a look at Easter
- 22:18Speaker 1: for example, she started off with like you know, podcast
- 22:22Speaker 1: and a web series that's well wepisodes and so did
- 22:27Speaker 1: uh it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes,
- 22:31Speaker 1: been on the air for nine years, so those people
- 22:34Speaker 1: they stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I
- 22:37Speaker 1: think that when you when you look at about a
- 22:39Speaker 1: lot of people do wait too long? They want that
- 22:42Speaker 1: that I always tell people wait on a lottery. You
- 22:44Speaker 1: know they were doing that opportunity. They really do. Think
- 22:47Speaker 1: it works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street
- 22:48Speaker 1: and somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is
- 22:50Speaker 1: not high work. That's you may have heard that story,
- 22:53Speaker 1: but that's what that's what that's like winning a lottery.
- 22:56Speaker 1: There are people who tapping on the shoulder. Know that,
- 23:01Speaker 1: you know who's going to tapping on the shoulder person
- 23:03Speaker 1: to tell you get out the way because they want
- 23:04Speaker 1: to get in front of you. Yeah, absolutely that gets
- 23:09Speaker 1: tapped a lot That's a lot of people understand about entertainment,
- 23:12Speaker 1: you know, because you know this for a factor are
- 23:15Speaker 1: going in in in a movie like this. And let's
- 23:17Speaker 1: give you a little bit more background on No Sudden Mood.
- 23:19Speaker 1: It's a British story which takes place in nineteen fifty
- 23:21Speaker 1: four and the racially charged Detroit. And we know Detroit
- 23:25Speaker 1: has always been a community where where where the police
- 23:28Speaker 1: has an issue it was black you know moretown. Was
- 23:32Speaker 1: there a group of small time criminals who are hired
- 23:35Speaker 1: on the mysterious circumstances to steal what they think is
- 23:37Speaker 1: a simple document. They file up the master plan and
- 23:41Speaker 1: guess what it all goes as they say, to hell
- 23:44Speaker 1: and you include all these situations. So you have black
- 23:47Speaker 1: people and white people try to work together in nineteen
- 23:50Speaker 1: fifty four. Right there, that tells you it's gonna be
- 23:54Speaker 1: intense because you know, you dealing with high levels of
- 23:58Speaker 1: racial prejudice. And also a black people just came around
- 24:02Speaker 1: like white people came back then. It's right, So how
- 24:06Speaker 1: does what role do you play in all of this?
- 24:08Speaker 1: Bill Douke, Well, you you so brilliantly and accurately described
- 24:13Speaker 1: the conditions of the time. Uh and um. In those days,
- 24:22Speaker 1: you had confrontations based upon race and social positions. So
- 24:31Speaker 1: if you were black, you had to be able, as
- 24:34Speaker 1: I said before, to be able to play chess in
- 24:36Speaker 1: the chess games. So if they you know, had negotiators
- 24:40Speaker 1: with them, you have to negotiate. If the negotiations didn't
- 24:44Speaker 1: go well and they had guns, you had to have guns.
- 24:49Speaker 1: So you know, you you could not negotiate with with
- 24:54Speaker 1: someone who felt you were weak and unprepared. The only
- 24:59Speaker 1: way you could negotiate with them, it's to look him
- 25:02Speaker 1: in the eye and they understood the consequences of disrespecting you. Hm.
- 25:07Speaker 1: So I played the head of the Black Game and
- 25:11Speaker 1: we negotiate over some issues that I don't want to
- 25:14Speaker 1: give away. Now give a movie away, but we are
- 25:18Speaker 1: negotiators and they don't expect us to be that and
- 25:21Speaker 1: they're surprised by it, but they do negotiate with us. Now,
- 25:25Speaker 1: let let me know when you look at movies, because
- 25:27Speaker 1: we've seen how covid has changed the game, and also
- 25:30Speaker 1: streaming networks Netflix, Amazon, you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have
- 25:35Speaker 1: changed the game. They opened in movies that were opening
- 25:38Speaker 1: the theater, opening online and streaming and all they're doing
- 25:41Speaker 1: the simul simulcast. They simulcastically, they like they were Cruella
- 25:46Speaker 1: Crewella opening in the theater as well as our Disney
- 25:49Speaker 1: Plus and in the premium network. Have you seen a
- 25:54Speaker 1: change in the quality or it doesn't matter. They still
- 25:56Speaker 1: producing the high quality movies even for streaming as well
- 25:59Speaker 1: as for the big theaters. Some of them are high
- 26:02Speaker 1: quality and some of them are not. Some people are
- 26:06Speaker 1: giving cameras to make movies and they they've never studied directing,
- 26:11Speaker 1: they've never studied writing or anything. Because of relationship they
- 26:14Speaker 1: have with a relative, somebody who has money. But I
- 26:18Speaker 1: I I still believe in people who take the time
- 26:23Speaker 1: to study their discipline. But I'm not gonna say it's easy.
- 26:27Speaker 1: It's not. But you have to know, you know, you
- 26:31Speaker 1: have to read books. You know you have to you know,
- 26:35Speaker 1: you you have to be able to understand structure, not
- 26:39Speaker 1: only the structure of the movie, but what is character structure?
- 26:44Speaker 1: You know, what is the beginning, middle, and end of
- 26:47Speaker 1: a movie? What is the storyline? What is the character line?
- 26:50Speaker 1: How do you hook people in emotionally to what you're
- 26:53Speaker 1: talking about? Those are crafts and skills that should be studied,
- 26:57Speaker 1: you know. And there are books at schools you can
- 26:59Speaker 1: go to. UM. You know that. You know that. One
- 27:03Speaker 1: of the great books Joseph Campbell's a Hero with a
- 27:06Speaker 1: Thousand Faces. Even Steelberg, all those people use a hero
- 27:12Speaker 1: of a thousand faces, and so do I. Another great
- 27:15Speaker 1: book is a Machili The Five Season Cinematography. It's another
- 27:20Speaker 1: It's another great book, you know. UM. Another great UH
- 27:24Speaker 1: book is you know, Sun Super Wrothy Art of War.
- 27:30Speaker 1: The The The War of Art is another great book.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Talks about how we procrastinate and Nick excuses for not
- 27:40Speaker 1: doing what we know we should be doing, and what
- 27:42Speaker 1: are the patterns of that and how to get out
- 27:44Speaker 1: of that. So studying our craft, studying things. I think
- 27:48Speaker 1: it's very important for young people of company. Uh No
- 27:51Speaker 1: sudden moves of talking to Bill Duke about the movie
- 27:53Speaker 1: that premiers July one on HBO Max. Uh it's a
- 27:57Speaker 1: great movie. We said in nineteen fifty four. It's about
- 28:00Speaker 1: black people white people. You know they will know of
- 28:03Speaker 1: video phones back there. You know, police violence still existed.
- 28:07Speaker 1: It has existed all our lives as an African American.
- 28:10Speaker 1: We know that. But when you look at what you've done.
- 28:12Speaker 1: I talked about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that,
- 28:16Speaker 1: but I always want to ship before we get off
- 28:18Speaker 1: the air and talk about you unite Unite network that
- 28:22Speaker 1: I believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's
- 28:25Speaker 1: up and running June Tent. Talk about the purpose of
- 28:28Speaker 1: that and why the importance of the Unite network. That's
- 28:32Speaker 1: why unite. First of all, you will have the the
- 28:35Speaker 1: page of the um of our of our efforts up
- 28:41Speaker 1: in the mount June Tent, and in the first week
- 28:45Speaker 1: in July we will have a really serious soft launch.
- 28:51Speaker 1: And I'm putting a network together because I have children
- 28:55Speaker 1: in my life. I have a god daughter, I have
- 28:57Speaker 1: children that I love, god son sons, and I think
- 29:03Speaker 1: we have responsibility to leave them something called hope. Right now,
- 29:09Speaker 1: when you turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean,
- 29:12Speaker 1: we're being divided in ways that We've always been a
- 29:16Speaker 1: divided country racially et such a but now taking a
- 29:19Speaker 1: whole other level with the COVID, with racism, with the
- 29:23Speaker 1: politics we're being divided in. Division is only going to
- 29:27Speaker 1: leave chaos for our children. So I in my network
- 29:32Speaker 1: instead of the bad news on the negativity, but we
- 29:35Speaker 1: report are all the good things that are happening in
- 29:38Speaker 1: this world. There are people around the world that are
- 29:41Speaker 1: doing great. There's a program and I wish people watch
- 29:44Speaker 1: it once a year on CNN called CNN Heroes. If
- 29:48Speaker 1: you're it's a show about individuals who are doing good
- 29:54Speaker 1: and that's what should be reported. So I have a
- 29:57Speaker 1: network that really is devoted to leave hope for our children,
- 30:01Speaker 1: to give them a historical context of all the sacrifices
- 30:06Speaker 1: that have been made so they could be here today
- 30:07Speaker 1: and do what they do. And so we have a
- 30:10Speaker 1: number of different programs on the network. I have the
- 30:13Speaker 1: support from people that Anthony Anderson, centric, the Entertainer Um,
- 30:18Speaker 1: a lot of good folks, and so we're launching it
- 30:22Speaker 1: and hope people check it out. Well, you know that
- 30:24Speaker 1: uh you know that was that was a cue and
- 30:28Speaker 1: a cap of right there. You know that with no
- 30:30Speaker 1: stigma and the sigmas happened you out and you're nearly
- 30:33Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know that was some other fraternity
- 30:35Speaker 1: members there that that you just mentioned that, Mr Bill,
- 30:38Speaker 1: do you know just let you know that you know
- 30:40Speaker 1: there are some sigmas that okay, okay, but you just
- 30:43Speaker 1: didn't mention them there though, Bill. You didn't mention him though, Bill, No,
- 30:46Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I'm just saying, told her respect.
- 30:50Speaker 1: I understand your pope position, very told position. Position that
- 30:59Speaker 1: are that are good. I love you, man, I love
- 31:01Speaker 1: it man kid to laugh, first Man, HBO, Max Uh,
- 31:06Speaker 1: Steve Soderberg, casting, the amazing cast, Don Cheetle, Matt Damon,
- 31:10Speaker 1: Ray Leona, John Hambern, the Fraser and most important Nicio
- 31:14Speaker 1: del Toro, most important my man Bill to do back
- 31:17Speaker 1: on the screen, big screen, small screen. I love him always, man,
- 31:21Speaker 1: because that smiles amazing this personalities dynamic and I will
- 31:25Speaker 1: be flying myself into Los Angeles cally to beat you
- 31:30Speaker 1: and being with young man hear me on that. Okay,
- 31:34Speaker 1: guess what, sir, I'm gonna send you a bus to
- 31:37Speaker 1: bus from l A. I love you man. You still strong,
- 31:45Speaker 1: Bill Duke. Okay, thank you so much. Man, I appreciate it.
- 31:48Speaker 1: We talked soon. If you want to hear see any
- 31:50Speaker 1: of my incredibly funny or entertaining interviews with people like Bill,
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