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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. That is a
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nice shirt, Leo. I really enjoy it. Good? Oh,
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man. Boxing before dark. Boxing before dark.
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Boxing before dark. If you say it three times,
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I'll appear in your room behind you. Oh, man.
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Well, I'm actually wearing my Inoue, my chibi
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Inoue shirt. You can check that out on lvx .be
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slash shop. It's super cute. I tried to replicate
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it with David Benavidez. Not as cute. Not as
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cute. It's not. But I tried my best. But, Shinada,
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how are you doing? How's Japan treating you this
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week? Actually, the weather is finally not fucking
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terrible. I think we're down to like 25, 27 highs.
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Which I much prefer over 35. I cannot wait until
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winter. I want it to be winter. I want it to
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be 5 degrees outside so I can wear long sleeves
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and not sweat when I walk to work. Although when
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I get to work, they'll have it 26 in the office
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because Japanese people have poor circulation.
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Man, I wish I got down to 5 here. I have to say,
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and I knew this would happen, I miss winter so
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badly, which sounds very stereotypical, but actual
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snow that you can go out and play in, I miss
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it so much. I enjoyed every winter. When I was
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in anywhere that had Winter Wonderland, I always
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enjoyed it. Yeah, I mean, the minus 30 sucks
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ass, but minus 10? Minus 10 is nice. I don't
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care what anyone says. You know what I think
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might be nice? Nakatani dropping his belts. Wait,
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you have something here for 1FC. Yeah, so I've
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been watching the Friday Night Fights. And there
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was one last night that was fucking awesome.
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And I'm going to butcher the names. But Folicit
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versus Redhoe was a war. I overemphasized the
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hoe, I'm sure. Redhoe. I would too, because it's
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funny. It was a war. It was great. Friday Night
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Fights, man. It's not MMA, which is a selling
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point. kickboxing or muay thai and they're on
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youtube for free and they're amazing even if
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you can't watch them at the time because it's
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not a bad time for me but i guess in america
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it's probably ass but you you should watch them
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like when you're bored on a tuesday or something
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i say it every week on uh ultimate effing casuals
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friday friday fights You are the one who convinced
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me, and I'm hooked now. I fucking love 1FC. I
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actually bought a ticket for their big November
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thing here in Tokyo. I get to see, what's his
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name? The Iron Man. Rod Tang. Yeah, I get to
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see Rod Tang. I know he's passed it and everything
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else, but I'm super excited about it. I would
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still be excited to see him. Yeah. I got ass
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tickets, but, you know. You're still going to
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be there. Yeah. Okay, now to Nakatani dropping
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his belts. Is this a sign he's moving up? Oh,
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that's 100 % what it is. Yeah, he dropped his
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belts because he's moving up. Now, one thing
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I will say that I really like is everybody complains
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about people holding belts hostages. Nakatani's
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not doing that at all. I, like... How do I put
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it? I like the straightforwardness of it. Like,
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yeah, I'm gonna move up in my next fight so you
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fuckers can fight over these belts now. I don't
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want them. I don't need them. Yeah. Nope. I'm
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gonna go get my big payday, get my ass kicked
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by Inoue. Alright, so you're gonna be riding
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for Inoue in that one? Yeah, of course. Oh, man,
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I was feeling the underdog with, uh... underdog's
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counterpunch yeah no i i don't think nakatani
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is as good as people think he is perhaps i i
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think nakatani's been fighting a lot of cans
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and has really built up the um the image yeah
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and i think he's really i do think he's good
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like really good but i don't i don't think he
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can beat in a way Inoue's just better. You're
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probably right. I'm going to go for Nakatani
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anyway, just because I've got to be a contrarian.
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Well, and he trains with Mexicans and stuff.
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Oh, so you didn't see this one. Crawford was
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pulled over. Do you know the story behind that?
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Not the whole story. I meant to go look it up
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and totally forgot to. I saw a little clip where
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the officer was telling him not to reach for
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a gun. That's all I saw. Did Crawford actually
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have guns in his vehicle? Because he likes guns.
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He owns lots of them. Yes, and he and all of
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his crew are licensed to carry. Yeah. I'm not
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saying it was illegal, but did he have guns in
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the car with him? Yeah, okay, okay. I meant to
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go look. Because if he's driving dangerously
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and has the back of the car filled with guns,
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I can see the cops being a little nervous. Yeah,
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that's pretty much what happened, was the cops
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were nervous, so they had to draw their weapons
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because they saw there was guns out in the open.
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like all right everybody slowly get out of the
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vehicle yeah i did see on like instagram and
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stuff people trying to make it a race thing i'm
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like dude even if you're white and driving dangerously
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and have guns like laying on the back seat the
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cops are gonna pull their weapons i've had american
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highway patrol pull their gun on me before like
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it's not a rare thing and I am the whitest of
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white ladies. Like... I've never had a cop pull
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their gun on me. Oh, fucking Border Patrol loves
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pulling their gun on people. Of course they do.
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Bunch of dicks. But no, I got... So when I first
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got my license, I'm aging myself terribly here.
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Montana didn't have speed limits yet. Montana
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was one of the last states to put in speed limits.
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So when I was 16, they didn't have a speed limit,
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and I came back to visit when I was, I think,
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19. I was at university, and they had put in
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speed limits, and I didn't realize, so I was
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driving too fast and got pulled over, which is
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fair. But the fucking cops there just pull their
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guns on everyone, I swear to God. They probably
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do. Anyways, I don't think the cop was particularly
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bad or hard on Crawford if he was driving the
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way it sounds like he was driving. Yeah, from
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what I gather as well, he was acting up. I kind
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of get it. He was just coming off of the big
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parade that they had. Totally in his honor. So,
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you know, you're riding on cloud nine. So you're
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acting up a little bit. I get it, but yeah. I
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get it, but getting pulled over is also not a
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surprise. Yeah, I get getting pulled over, too.
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At least he wasn't drinking and driving. Yeah,
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and everyone was licensed to carry firearms.
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Everyone had firearms on their person. Nobody
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made any fucking crazy moves. This thing got
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settled, and... I think the mayor of Omaha was
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like, oh, you know, just a routine situation.
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So. Yeah. Well, and I haven't seen Crawford overly
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complain about it. Yeah. Like I said, it was
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just like internet warriors. Like somebody. Something
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it's not. Yeah. Well, somebody was like, what
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do you get pulled over for? And there was like
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six comments of driving while black. And I'm
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like, I really don't think that's what it was,
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guys. But yeah, I get celebrating and driving
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like an asshole. I've done it before, too. But
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if you get pulled over, you get pulled over.
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And it's not surprising that the cops were nervous
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if everybody had guns. There was one out in the
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open. That was what started the whole nervousness
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to begin with. So, I don't know. I don't really
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see anything too wrong with it. On either side,
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really. Like, nobody got hurt. Yeah. It's fine.
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Crawford has the money to pay dangerous driving
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fines. Driving like an asshole fine? Yeah, well...
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I mean... If that's what you choose to do, you
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take the risk of having to pay for it. Mmm...
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Daigo Higa. Unsurprisingly, he unretired. Yeah.
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I was surprised when he announced his retirement.
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I am not surprised by this. Yeah, I think he
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just retired because he was tired of getting
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draws. I need somebody to call in and tell me
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what the record is for consecutive draws. Because
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I'm sure there's been quite a few people who
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have gotten two in a row. But if he gets three
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in a row, that has to be rare. Yeah. I might
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have to look into this as well, just to see.
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I also didn't see who he's unretiring to fight,
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or if he has a fight lined up, or if he just
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announced his... I just thought it was announcing
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unretirement. Yeah, I just mean, like, I can't
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even speculate who his opponent will be next,
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I don't think. Like, there's lots of options,
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but... I don't know if he has one lined up or
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anything. Ooh, bet he fights for a title. I mean,
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if your last fight was a draw for a title, and
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then a draw for a title, and then, or... Two
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title draws? Yeah. Who is it in the Discord fucking
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hates he getting title shots? He complains every
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time. I can't remember. I don't know. Is it Deuce?
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Deuce hates it. Deuce is like, why the fuck does
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this man keep getting shots? He's not that good.
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And I'm like... He's entertaining. He's always
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entertaining. And he's not that bad. No. Just
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unfortunately not having the best luck. Yeah.
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But I'm kind of happy. I'll watch Higa again.
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I like him. Yeah, I would gladly tune into his
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next fight. My fellow Urasoe Okinawa bro. And
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he hasn't looked bad yet. No, he hasn't. He does
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look like he's past his peak, but he's definitely
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not washed. Oh, it's not on the outline, but
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Ioka broke the top 10 in the rankings again,
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too. So I'm wondering who they're lining him
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up for. What? Speaking of older Japanese guys
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that are probably a little past it. Wait, who?
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Full name? Kasuto Ioka. Oh, I just completely
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misheard you. And I thought you meant like Tony
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Ioka, the French heavyweight. I was like, why
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would you know that? No, no, no. No, Ioka. Ioka,
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yeah. I can't remember which... It doesn't really
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matter. I can't remember which sanctioning body
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it was. He was number 9 again. Probably WBA then.
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He's number 9 again. Maybe I can go to a Higa
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Ioka card before I leave again. Out in Ota City.
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Oh, because, yeah, that's where they put their
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undesirables. Yeah. Oh, speaking of undesirable,
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Moses Itauma rejects an IBF eliminator. He rejected
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it. He rejected a final eliminator. He was going
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to fight Frank Sanchez, and if he won, he gets
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a shot at Usyk. And he turned it down. Frank
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Sanchez is a step up, but... Winnable, I think.
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Yeah, I don't follow the heavies like most people
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do, but I guess Itauma's maybe not as confident
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as everyone else is about Itauma. In his last
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fight, he said, when he sparked Dillian White,
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he had said, Everyone in the crowd was shouting,
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like, who do you want to fight next? And then
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the crowd was all shouting, Usyk, Usyk, Usyk.
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And he's like, yeah, everyone's saying that,
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but there's other guys who have earned that shot,
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and I kind of haven't. Yeah. He kind of did a
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little shrug. Like, I would if I had the chance,
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sure. But obviously he won't. Yeah. Because he
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turned down the eliminator. I didn't mind that
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speech, but, like... Maybe he's not very confident.
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Maybe this is going to be his downside. Like,
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he's got the skills, but no balls to take on
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the really tough challenges. Oh, I forgot to
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do this. Oh yeah, you gotta turn on your on -air
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sign so nobody interrupts. Yeah, well, Dogbert's
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the only one that'll do that. I think it's okay
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for him to reject it. The fight with Frank Sanchez,
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it's not a bad one. Is he at that level? Maybe
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not. But that's, I think, but also maybe. So
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it would have been a decent fight, but. Yeah,
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I'm just talking shit, I guess. But I like to
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see people challenge themselves. Like, Itauma
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hasn't had a hard fight yet. No, he hasn't. It's
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still... I think people are still protecting
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their O's a little too much. Less. Like, that
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whole thing's going away a bit. But you don't
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want to push people too fast either. I don't
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know. I don't know heavyweight stuff. I think
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it's alright. I also didn't know that Atom was
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born in Slovakia. Yeah. Him and his brother.
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Interesting. Alright. So who do you think he's
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gonna fight instead, then? Fuck, that's a good
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question. Let's have... Like, if he doesn't want
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to fight Sanchez, who's one step below that?
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Jared Anderson? Is Anderson still a name? I feel
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like he got found out really bad. He did. I don't
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think Jared Anderson will take that fight, to
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be honest. Justice Hooney. Maybe. He was soundly
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outboxing Fabio Wardley. Until he got absolutely
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fucking wrecked. I enjoyed that, actually. I
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didn't. I was on Team Hoonie. Anything to upset
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Lin? Yeah, fair. Yeah, I guess. I feel like Hoonie's
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a harder test than Sanchez, though. And there's
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no... belt -stangling in front of you. Kevin
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Lorena? Who had a buzzed hoonie as well. I don't
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know. I just feel like Frank Sanchez isn't that
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hard of a pest. Yeah, I don't think he is either.
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I feel like that was a really reasonable one
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that Atalma should have taken. Maybe I'm underestimating
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Frank Sanchez. Perhaps. He's a Cuban 33, so,
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you know. So 50. Yeah, he's considerably older.
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When he fought Aguit Caballel, he definitely
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did look the worst for wear. Yeah. Wait, I'm
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not saying Frank Sanchez is bad. I just mean,
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like, I think that's a reasonable fight for Atalma
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at this point. That's why I'm kind of surprised
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he rejected it. Hmm. What did the guys on B -side
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think about that? Yeah, it was like the no -needs
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-to -rush kind of thing. Atalma's still the second
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coming. But Josh wrote a piece on it. It's on
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the fucking Wayside Sports Review. That's up
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on LVXmedia .net. Check it out. I want to skip
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ahead really quick. So if Etaba is not going
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to take the Usyk Eliminator, who's next for Usyk?
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Now, I found this on social media, so it had
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some options already presented. Joseph Parker.
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Fabio Wardley, Tyson Fury, Jake Paul, other.
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Jake Paul's such a stupid fucking answer. I don't
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think Usyk's fighting Jake Paul. I would like
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for him to get paid. Yeah, I don't think Usyk
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cares that much about having more money. He wouldn't
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dishonor himself? I don't think so. Maybe I'm
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wrong. And it's a lot of money. And I... Can't
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overly judge people for taking a lot of money,
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but... Yeah. I mean, the only real good answer
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is Parker, right? Yeah, that's what Saul and
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I thought was Joseph Parker. Like... He's earned
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a shot. And he's been waiting. And Parker's been
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looking good. He deserves the shot. And I think
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Usyk beats him anyways, but... I mean... I think
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Joseph Parker should get his shot. It's a new
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wrinkle, right? It's a new type of, a new style
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of fight. Because Fabio Wardley, I would liken
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it to Dubois. I don't think Wardley has the skills
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to do anything. To hang? Yeah. And he's beat
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Fury twice. Fury does not deserve another shot.
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Yeah, seriously. Speaking of Usyk, has there
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been any news about the lawsuit? He's been getting...
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I don't know if he is sued, but somebody was
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investigating him because he asked for time before
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a defense because of a back injury, and then
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he had those videos of him dancing. Like, your
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back doesn't look very injured, man. Well, yes.
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to be dancing around in Ukrainian pop star videos,
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music videos, yeah, it's a little silly, but
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it's also not as physically taxing as professional
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training. It was the WBO that was wanting to
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investigate him. I'm not generally knocking him
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for it or anything. I just meant, like, I hadn't
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heard anything about the investigation. I haven't
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either. Usyk's also in a movie that's coming
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out soon. I've been seeing some actors talking
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about filming with him, and it sounds hilarious,
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as expected. The one that I saw was that he needs
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to be paid in cake to do anything. He didn't
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like having to be sprayed down with fake sweat
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and stuff, and they had to bribe him with cake.
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So, Usyk is becoming a real heavyweight, apparently,
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during his time off. Honestly, I said it before,
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I think he could retire now and still be the
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fucking, like, greatest of this generation, for
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sure. He already is the greatest of this generation.
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That's what I mean. Like if he retires now, there's
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no, there's take anything away from them. Yeah.
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If he wants to go film Hollywood movies and eat
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cake, I think he's earned it. One of the others
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that was in the Usyk who's next for Usyk post
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that I didn't include here on the list, but was
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included was Anthony Joshua. And I put that in
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the same category as Tyson Fury. He's also beat
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him twice. Exactly. There's nothing more to see
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here. Yeah. But I mentioned Anthony Joshua because
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who might be next for Anthony Joshua? He's got
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his comeback scheduled. And the options on the
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post I found this on, Jake Paul, Tony Yoka, Martin
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Bacoli, and I added... rematching Daniel Dubois.
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I don't think he should rematch Dubois. But...
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I'd like for him to fight Tony Yoka. That's what
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I came down with. I've heard some very convincing
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arguments for Tony Yoka. Yoka's also a little
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past it. It's a Britain versus France thing.
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They... Were they at the same Olympics? Or they
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won gold medals back -to -back or something?
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Yeah. like i i don't even know who tony yoka
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fucking is i honestly heavyweights are not my
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jam but i heard some convincing arguments that
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i'm like yeah i could see why people would want
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to see that fight and it might be fun if they're
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both a bit past it like for tony yoka to be past
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it though he has to have been been it yeah he
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has to have been it to begin with and he never
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was Fair enough. But still, all of the miscellaneous
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reasons do make it a compelling fight. I want
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to see it. Well, and I think AJ does need a bit
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of a confidence booster. Yep. So if he can get
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some money fighting Yoka, who's a bit of a name.
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Like, I have heard his name before. If Yoka's
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not much of a threat. Like, I think even Bacoli...
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Probably beats his ass. Well, not beats his ass,
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but has the chance of sparking him. AJ seems
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very sparkable now. Like... I don't know. Jake
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Paul would be a fucking joke. I think he beats
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Jake Paul like he did, uh... Francis Ngannou.
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I wouldn't mind seeing that, but I don't know.
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We've talked about Jake Paul a bunch. I don't
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like Jake Paul as a boxer. I don't like him getting
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to fight big names. I understand why it happens
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and stuff, but he doesn't deserve it. In my opinion.
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But Jake Paul's... choney is a really good promoter
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i don't dislike him in boxing anymore but i don't
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like him being in the ring i want him to just
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promote what's his promotion called most valuable
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yeah mvp sorry i got the hiccups i i want him
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to go promote fighters he seems good at it he
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seems to actually give a shit about the fighters.
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He's making his money in other places. He doesn't
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need to make it ripping them off. I mean, he
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basically runs women's boxing now. At this point,
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he's signed anyone who matters. Pretty much,
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yeah. Oh, that's a good segue. They announced
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Who gets into the Hall of Fame of boxing last
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week, I think. Yeah. And they had three women.
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I got to look up the other two. But the German
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lady, Christina Hammer, was on the list. I was
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happy she made the Hall of Fame. Is she on the
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ballot or is she in? I might have misunderstood.
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I think the ballots are out. Okay, I thought
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they were in. I thought they announced who was
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in. The ballots are out now and voting is through
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December. Okay, okay. I misunderstood the thing
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I listened to. I was listening to podcasts at
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work and just not paying that much attention,
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I guess. But Christina Hammer being on there,
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it's a good shout. I think Triple G made this
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one. Yeah. I obviously recognized everyone's
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name, but I just have such a shit memory. Sean
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Porter was on the list, I think. Okay. I could
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see him... I could see the argument for him making
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it. I don't know if I would. Vote him first ballot,
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but I need to see who else is on it. Yeah, I
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mentioned this and then have completely dropped
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the fucking ball on it. This annoys me. I'm not
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a huge feminist or anything, but it's super fucking
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hard to find the women in these articles. And
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I have to say, I really like Boxing Scene Today,
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the pro -box one. And they had a whole show,
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and this pissed me off. I would have rather they
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just didn't mention it at all. They talked for,
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like, 20 minutes about the men that were nominated,
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and literally their outro was saying the three
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women's names. Oh. I was like, oh, yeah, and
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these three women were also nominated. And I'm
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like, goddamn, guys. Like, it would have been
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less dismissive to just not bring them up. Yeah.
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Then to mention them as an afterthought. Yeah,
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that annoyed me. It annoyed me enough I left
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a comment that nobody's ever going to see on
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their YouTube. Okay, so here's the 2026 ones.
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Triple G. Vernon Forrest. Steve Collins. The
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Celtic Warrior. I recognize the name, but I don't
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remember why he's a name. Christina Hammer, Jackie
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Nava. Is Vernon Forrest the one that got shot?
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Like, he died fairly young. He got shot in a
30:39
carjacking or something? I don't know. I might
30:47
have the wrong guy. Not a carjacking, but a robbery.
30:54
Someone robbed him in Atlanta and he fought back.
31:08
Steve Bunce is in the broadcaster slot. I don't
31:15
know who that is. He's the British dude. He does
31:18
Box Nation. Oh, I do recognize that. Yeah, okay.
31:25
He's a bald, older guy. I don't care for Steve
31:30
Bunce. Anyway. Yeah, speaking of Hall of Fame,
31:36
do you think AJ has the credentials to make the
31:39
Hall of Fame? Because I don't. I think AJ will
31:46
be in the Hall of Fame. He will make it, yes,
31:48
but I don't think he should. I don't think he's
31:50
as deserving as others. I think AJ is famous
31:58
enough that his resume probably doesn't matter.
32:08
Like, there's a lot of people in the Hall of
32:12
Fame that are not the best boxers. True. That
32:15
is very true. And this is true for any Hall of
32:18
Fame. It's not just boxing. Like, if you are
32:22
famous enough and personable enough or hated
32:26
enough, you get in the Hall of Fame. It's not
32:30
skill -based. It's... Yeah, it's not entirely
32:34
in the ring. It's just... Yeah. That is the exact
32:40
same argument I made last time when we were talking
32:42
about Ricky Hatton. Right, and I think Ricky
32:47
Hatton should be in the Hall of Fame, but I don't
32:51
think he's the best British boxer. No, yeah.
32:55
Like, those are two different arguments, Leo.
32:57
Yes, I know. The Hall of Fame is not necessarily
33:02
100 % merit -based, and I'm okay with that. I
33:07
think that people with a big fan base should
33:10
be in the Hall of Fame, and you can go see...
33:15
their whatever their stuff uh years from now
33:20
like I went to the hockey hall of fame and there's
33:25
there's a lot of guys I wish were in there that
33:27
will never be in there because I like the goons
33:30
like so Donald Brashear is not gonna make the
33:36
hockey hall of fame like he was famous for fighting
33:41
That was his thing. That doesn't get you in the
33:43
Hall of Fame. No, probably not. But there's me
33:48
and a bunch of other people that would be excited
33:50
to see his jersey hanging in there anyways. You
33:55
know? And I think there's some boxers like that,
33:57
too. Ricky Hatton has the resume. Maybe he lost
34:02
every big fight, but he fought people. But I
34:08
just... AJ's so famous. I think he deserves to
34:12
be there anyways. He's done a lot for boxing
34:14
outside of the ring. Oh, look at you making a
34:19
case for him. And it's a good one. I was just
34:24
thinking purely on his resume. Like Saul and
34:26
I were talking, when we were talking about it,
34:28
we were speaking purely on his resume. Like who's
34:31
his best win, Vladimir Klitschko? And take away
34:36
Klitschko, what else has he accomplished? I mean,
34:40
he was a champion for a long period of time.
34:44
Like, he held belts. Yeah. Heavyweight's not
34:49
my forte. But I just think that AJ is famous
34:53
enough and has enough fans, and he has been a
34:57
good ambassador of the sport. And, like I said,
35:02
the Hall of Fame, I don't think, is or should
35:05
be purely merit -based. If you're... likable
35:10
enough, you can get in the Hall of Fame. If it's
35:13
purely merit -based, then what would... How many
35:16
ballots would it take for Roberto Duran to have
35:20
gotten in? Because he got his ass kicked by Ray
35:23
Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler. Yeah, like...
35:30
But Duran obviously deserves to be in the Hall
35:34
of Fame. Of course he does. Like, that's not
35:36
a debate. But you're right. His resume, he's
35:42
got a lot of losses. But again, I don't think
35:45
that should matter. AJ has done enough for the
35:50
sport at large that his thinner resume shouldn't
35:59
hold him back too much. And how do I put this
36:04
without sounding like an asshole? Getting in
36:07
the Hall of Fame is great, but I mean, that also
36:12
doesn't mean a whole bunch. It just means you've
36:15
been recognized. But, like, there's some people
36:19
in the Hall of Fame that I don't know who the
36:21
fuck they are. True. And not just, like, because
36:26
they're so old. Like, there's people the right
36:29
generation that I should know who they are that
36:32
I just don't. And there's some people that I
36:35
wish were in there that aren't. Like, I think
36:38
Mickey Ward deserves to be in the Hall of Fame,
36:41
and I don't think he was ever voted in. I'm sure
36:44
he has been at this point. I don't know. I know
36:48
he went when Arturo Gatti was inducted. He went
36:55
to the induction ceremony because Gatti was dead.
36:59
Oh, he was inducted. In 2019. So my example is...
37:07
But okay. It took to 2019. Yeah, but still using
37:12
this example, like, Mickey Ward's resume is kind
37:15
of shit. But nobody's mad he's in the Hall of
37:19
Fame. Yeah. Or if they are, they can come fight
37:22
me. Or you could call in and say, why is she
37:27
wrong? 833 -589 -7637. I will meet you in a field
37:34
and fight you if you tell me Mickey Ward doesn't
37:38
deserve to be there. Because he does. But if
37:43
Mickey Ward's in the Hall of Fame, AJ's resume's
37:45
better. Yeah. Speaking of good resumes, the Thrilla
37:54
in Manila. 50 years. I rewatched it. I rewatched
38:00
it to celebrate. And, yeah. Still great? Quite
38:07
thrilling. Very Manila -ing. Not a whole lot
38:14
to say beyond that. It was fucking fantastic.
38:17
I do know that the climate of Manila gets a lot
38:21
of credit for Ali's win in that one. The heat
38:26
and the humidity and the... Yeah. I don't think
38:32
that's fair, but it gets brought up a lot. He
38:35
was definitely in the fight, and he won a good
38:40
number of rounds. I do think that was one of
38:45
Ali's really maxed out stats, was being able
38:50
to endure everything. Like, his ability to take
38:59
punishment. And not just punches punishment,
39:07
but endure the heat and the exhaustion. I do
39:15
think that was one of Ali's greatest strengths.
39:19
Do you think, if we look back, was Ali, or even
39:25
Frasier for that matter, were they in... Like
39:29
a men's fashion magazine? Like GQ? Ali was in
39:34
many magazines. That's a good segue. Tsutsumi's
39:43
fashion magazine articles and photoshoots are
39:48
fucking great. I have built up a... persona for
39:54
him that is probably so far off it's ridiculous
39:58
but I just picture like high school Sutsumi looking
40:02
at fashion magazines being like I want to do
40:06
this and not being pretty enough to be a model
40:09
because Asian men's models are pretty then I
40:13
don't even think they're handsome they're just
40:15
pretty men and uh Sutsumi definitely would have
40:20
rather been a model than a boxer I think In my
40:23
head, he joined boxing so he could be in a fashion
40:27
magazine, which has happened. His dream has finally,
40:31
like, fuck the titles, fuck the winning record,
40:35
all of that. I've made it into a fashion magazine.
40:39
My fan fiction is definitely this is his dream
40:43
coming true. He talks about working in a secondhand
40:48
store. uh in the article and how that really
40:52
helped him improve his fashion his fashion is
40:55
Canadian tuxedos half the time and somehow they
40:58
work like he does look fashionable but it's a
41:01
lot of denim on denim Anyways, it made me really
41:08
happy. I was really happy for him that he got
41:11
to be in this magazine. And he's had a couple
41:14
professional photo shoots. And he keeps leaking
41:18
the pictures. Not leaking, but sharing the pictures
41:21
on Instagram. Are you going to get a copy of
41:23
it? I have absolutely no idea how to do that.
41:29
But maybe. If I see it in a store, I will definitely
41:33
buy it. I've bought a couple magazines that had
41:37
Inoue on the cover and stuff. If I see Tsutsumi
41:42
in a magazine, I am definitely buying it. Well,
41:46
anything more for Tsutsumi fangirling, thrill
41:55
in Manila, Hall of Fame talk? No, I did change
42:01
my Discord profile picture to my favorite Tsutsumi
42:06
fashion mag picture. I don't know if you've seen
42:09
it yet, Leo. It's only in SP. I do the server
42:14
-specific ones, but you should go check it out.
42:17
He's doing the blue steel with his hand on his
42:20
face. Fucking great. Whatever makes him happy.
42:27
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11th is going to be a busy day. Nice. Two cards.
47:09
The first one, Matchroom on DAZN. This one's
47:13
in Sheffield in the UK. Oh, David Allen is the
47:19
headliner fighting Arslan Beck Makhmudov. The
47:24
heavyweight's your favorite. Yeah, yeah. I don't
47:30
know. I don't know how to feel about Dave Allen,
47:33
to be honest. He's coming off some dynamite wins.
47:38
He has looked good recently, I guess, against
47:42
Johnny Fisher. I am happy Dave Allen is getting
47:49
paid. Let's put it that way. Johnny Fisher, his
47:55
father, Big John, he made it onto... So this
48:00
podcast I listen to, it's called Last Podcast
48:04
on the Left. They have like a smorgasbord of
48:09
auxiliary content. Like one thing they do once
48:14
a week. They host a live stream where they just
48:18
watch like shit from social media and stuff.
48:22
Yeah. Like every every week, a different host.
48:25
It's they call it their mandate where they pick
48:27
all the videos that they watch and then they
48:29
all comment. So one of them, one of the guys,
48:32
Henry, he picked a picture. He picked a video
48:34
of he was doing. Is this guy a hero or a villain?
48:39
And he picked Big John Fisher and and he was
48:43
just eating bosh. Yeah. And they're like, they
48:49
came out with he's a villain, but then later
48:51
the next week. They should change that. They
48:54
did. They revamped it. He's actually a good dude.
49:00
I saw a while ago that Big John got on like regular
49:06
TV and they were asking him about some, about
49:11
how people were treating immigrants in Britain
49:14
right now. And he was very serious, did not make
49:20
it jokey at all, and was like... I really was
49:26
a little surprised at how reasonable and good
49:30
his take was. I kind of expected Big John to
49:33
either make it a joke or be crazy right -wing
49:37
a little bit. Yeah. For no reason, I guess. Because
49:42
he wasn't. He was like, no, it has to be controlled,
49:46
but people are here, and you should treat people
49:49
like people, was basically his message. Yeah,
49:51
everyone deserves respect. Yeah, I was like,
49:55
fuck yes, man. Yeah, that's exactly what they
49:57
brought up about him. Yeah, I had been pretty
50:01
indifferent, I guess, to Big John, but after
50:04
I saw that, I was like... Fuck it, yeah. Like,
50:07
he seems like a good dude, actually. Yep. He's
50:10
like, even if you don't think they should be
50:12
here, they're still people. Like, so. And then
50:18
he started going off about all the different,
50:20
like, immigrant cuisines that he likes. Like,
50:23
I like Chinese food, Indian food. Well, I mean,
50:28
it's a good argument. The food is good. Yeah.
50:34
That's Dave Allen, Arslanbek Mahmudov, Josh Padley,
50:38
the electrician in our hearts. I do kind of have
50:44
to cheer for Padley now. Yeah, he's a blue -collar
50:49
guy. He finally got... Realizing his dream. Can't
50:56
help it. Well, he finally got to quit his day
50:59
job, right? Yeah, he did. Realizing his dream.
51:04
Oh, but the other guy is from Herefordshire,
51:07
and I used to have Hereford cattle, so. So Reese
51:12
Bilotti is, you're riding with Reese Bilotti?
51:16
No. But I would like to actually go visit Herefordshire.
51:25
I loved Hereford cows, but that's a different
51:29
podcast. Coming soon to Lux Media. Cows. Yeah.
51:37
Shit at his farming takes. We can call my brother
51:41
and ask him about the border stuff. How is your
51:45
wheat this week? Actually, this year it's not
51:49
great. It's going to be a tough year next year.
51:55
Moving to the second card of the day. Matchroom
51:59
again on DAZN. This one's at the Wells Fargo
52:03
Center in Philadelphia. Nice. Is Isaac going?
52:08
Yep. Nice. He's taking some first -timers, some
52:13
boxing first -timers. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah.
52:17
Picked a good fight to go to. At least the headline's
52:20
awesome. Jaron Ennis. Luis Malima. I think he's
52:25
unheralded. He should give Ennis some good work.
52:32
Oh, I recognize Lima. It should be a good fight.
52:35
I do think Boots probably wins. To me, it's not
52:41
a matter of if. It's just like, how badly is
52:43
he going to beat Lima? And I'm thinking like
52:48
8 -4, 9 -3. Yeah, I don't think he gets a knockout.
52:53
Boots is not a knockout artist. From Angola.
53:01
Lives in Portugal now. Might have to ride with
53:05
the European. Wait, where is Angola? I just made
53:11
myself sound stupid, didn't I? Angola is in Africa,
53:13
but he lives in Portugal now. Okay. Other than
53:20
that, this card is pretty fucking weak. Jesse
53:24
Hart? Yeah. That can't be... It is the son of
53:28
Jesse Hart. This is Jesse Hart, the second coming.
53:34
Okay. Khalil Coe is a matchroom, I don't know,
53:40
prospect, I guess, at 10 -1 -1. That could be
53:47
a fun fight. Local Philly guy? Yeah. And Alexis
53:54
Barillet versus Guido Vianello. I think Barillet
53:59
is Canadian. Is he? Yeah. Ah, very French -Canadian.
54:08
Look at his face, Leo. I know you can't see it.
54:12
Holy shit. That is the most French -Canadian
54:17
looking person on the planet. Verso Guido Vianello.
54:24
How Italian does he look? Quite. France versus
54:30
Italy. I don't know if Guido looks super Italian.
54:36
Other than those three fights, I don't know who
54:38
else is on this. We need to find somebody who
54:41
speaks Quebecois because it's so fucking terrible.
54:49
Isn't... Marlon? He's Filipino. Marlon is Filipino?
54:59
Okay. I don't think there's any French Canadians.
55:05
There's Canadians, but I don't think they're
55:07
French Canadians. There is a French Canadian.
55:09
I am just... It is at the tip of my tongue. I
55:14
know there is one. Aiden's Ontario. I don't know.
55:22
Somebody in there is... We'll have to find him
55:25
so I can make fun of him. Get him to call in
55:28
and drop some tabernax. Is it Vom? Vom's French.
55:38
Okay. I knew he was a French speaker. Yeah. I
55:44
asked him and they don't swear the same. Like
55:47
at all. Yeah. I had asked somebody about that
55:51
too. Because that's what's important. I don't
55:54
know. Yeah, well, I find it funny because the
55:59
Quebec swears are all church things. I can't
56:04
remember the others. Yeah, I can't remember the
56:06
others, but I know they're all church things.
56:10
But what's the Canadian joke? Yeah, of course
56:14
I speak French. Like, yes, no toaster. Quebec
56:20
uses toaster for toaster. We know toaster. That's
56:27
how they say toaster. Toaster. Yeah. We've got
56:31
to phlegm it. You speak through your nose. Anyways,
56:38
I guess enough shitting on Quebec people, but
56:41
go Guido, I guess. We're riding with the Italian.
56:47
Yeah, his name, I thought Guido was like a...
56:51
I thought it was a slur. I thought so too. Yeah,
56:54
I really didn't realize it was a name until I
56:57
was embarrassingly old. I thought Guido was a
57:00
slur. I thought Guido was a slur as well until
57:02
I Guido Vianello. Now I know it's not. Well,
57:07
it kind of is. Yeah, it still is in the West,
57:11
in the US, and probably in Canada as well. It
57:13
depends how you say it. Yeah. Yeah. But it became
57:18
a slur because it was the most... Common name.
57:23
Like calling all Chinese people like Chang. Oh,
57:29
yeah. But sometimes you're just right. Yeah,
57:35
you call them all Guido and chances are one of
57:39
them is going to be named Guido. 10 % of the
57:41
time, you're right. And that's how slurs are
57:45
born. Well, anything more for Boots? No. Boots
57:51
is going to win. When is Boots getting his belt
57:56
shot? Well, if you count the IBO, he's getting
58:01
one right now. Do we count the IBO? We do not
58:06
count the IBO. Good question. He's on the wrong
58:13
side of the promotional divide. Two of the belts
58:19
are with... PBC with Fundora, who's fighting
58:23
Keith Thurman for whatever reason. Keith Thurman
58:28
needs to just retire. You're old. Xander Zayas
58:32
at top rank has won. Which one am I missing?
58:37
WBA. Terrence Crawford had it. He must have dropped
58:45
it. Abbas Baru, the German guy. He's the one
58:51
who has it now. Do you think he would fight Boots?
58:56
For that kind of payout, probably. It's probably
59:00
going to be a better payout than he's seen at
59:02
this point in his career. But yeah, Beru is the
59:07
one who stands out. He's like the weakest link
59:10
of the three. Boots is listed as number one contender
59:15
by the WBA that Beru has. Lovely. Because I think
59:22
Virgil Ortiz and Sebastian Fedora are kind of
59:27
lined up to fight that one out, aren't they?
59:31
Not lined up as in anything signed, but that
59:34
feels like it's going to happen. Or no? Wait
59:39
a tick. Who has the IBF? Is that Murtazaliev?
59:44
That's right. I forgot about him. Mertazaliev,
59:49
Fundora, Zayas, and Baru. I don't... Mertazaliev
59:58
might give Boots a shot. He's not listed very
1:00:01
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1:00:05
the top of that one. He's also the top of the
1:00:10
WBO. Wait, I'm not tripping, right? Zayas has
1:00:14
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1:00:19
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of bad news here. These little heroes of our
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gardens and dinners are struggling. Between habitat
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loss, climate change, and pesticides, it's a
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fucking bummer. Without them, our world would
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look a lot different and it would be a lot less
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delicious. But there is good news. Support for
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adopts a queen bee that you get to name and get
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Get yourself a nice little discount, help us
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out a little bit in the process, and help save
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the fucking world. LVX .BE slash bees. Use code
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LEO33862. Buzz, motherfucker. That's where more
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shit goes. Nice. Let's see here. We've mentioned
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it a few times, the phone line. It's anonymous
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and it's unattended. I don't even answer my own
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phone. And WhatsApp works. It does. If you're
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international. 833 -589 -7637. Plus one if you're
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coming from outside the U .S. and Canada. Even
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if you're in Canada, you have to do the one.
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Oh. Well, fuck. Just use the plus one. Regardless.
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If you want to get yourself into the conversation,
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if you're wondering who we're talking about,
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Marlon, Zoe, Lynn, who are these people? Go to
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Discord. LVX .BE slash Discord. If you want to
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get rid of ads, number one. Number two, you want
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to bypass a little bit of the hazing that happens
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for the new people, which I do absolutely nothing
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to improve that situation. Patreon. Get yourself
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that, you get yourself a roll color, and that'll
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spare you a little bit of the anguish of being
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a new person. But that's lvx .be slash Patreon.
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Alright, with all that bullshit out of the way,
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parting words. Parting words. Hmm. I am very
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excited that fall is here. And I think everyone
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should go see some leaves, depending on the timing.
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They haven't started changing colors here yet,
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but I'm sure in northern areas they're changing.
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Don't do something outside. Don't touch grass,
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I guess is my parting word. Don't touch leaves.
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Look at leaves and touch grass. For parting words,
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I'm going to say go read Josh's stuff. On the
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Wayside Sports Review. Yeah, I like Josh's takes,
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and his writing is good. Usually. Usually. Every
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once in a while, he gets a little off -topic
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and rambly. Well, Josh and rambly ranty. I fucking...
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I love Josh's rants. It's my favorite part of
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B -Sides. I'm so happy you got him to join. Man,
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he volunteered. Didn't have to ask him. I'm so
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happy when he goes off. Yeah, it's always funny.
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Alright, is that it for this edition? I think
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that's it. My batteries are getting low. it is
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getting dark boxing before dark we out we out
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here we'll see you on the other side of uh ns
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lima yay