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Amar’e Stoudemire tells how a former 6x NBA All-Star Player, now assistant Coach with Brooklyn Nets and develops business ventures Stoudemire Farms and Stoudemire Wines · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a Mari Startermira the six time
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Speaker 1: NBA All Stories, currently an assistant player developer coach for
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Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets, and he's an entrepreneur get it entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: Omar is the first and only black kosher winemaker. A
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Speaker 1: Mars owned star Starter. Mira Farms, an organic, family run
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Speaker 1: farm in Duchess County, New York, which raises black angers.
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Speaker 1: Amar wants to raise awareness about struggling black farmers and
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Speaker 1: teach the next generation a three sixty degree view of wellness,
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Speaker 1: which includes not only exercising food, but financial wellness and
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Speaker 1: community service. A. Mari is also currently pursuing his master's
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Speaker 1: degree in business from the University Mary. I Am. That's
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Happy to have one more show Amri out
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Speaker 1: of mind, man, Thanks for having me. How you doing, sir,
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, brother, feeling good. No, you know, Maria,
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Speaker 1: I would tell you something. I'm a big NBA fans,
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Speaker 1: so I can I can see those uh those lives
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Speaker 1: from Steve Nash to you and you slam ducking and
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Speaker 1: you was like you were an incredible athlete in the NBA.
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Speaker 1: And talk about that portion of feeling invincible, feeing all
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Speaker 1: world because you were all world. Talk about that whole
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Speaker 1: part of your life and then transhing, the transitioning out
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Speaker 1: of the game. We want to talk about it as well,
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Speaker 1: but just talk about when you're the top of your
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Speaker 1: game athletically. You know what, when you're when you're playing
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Speaker 1: the game at the high level, UM, you put in
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Speaker 1: so much work to to reach a level of expertise
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Speaker 1: in your craft. I think for me, I was able
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Speaker 1: to somewhat strive for greatness and my and my feeling
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Speaker 1: to be able to try to reach my full potential.
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Speaker 1: So when you're in that space, man, you feel like
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Speaker 1: you're just in a different world, You're in a different stratosphere. UM.
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Speaker 1: And so the energy along kind of cords in with
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Speaker 1: with your plan and succeeding at whatever you're doing. And
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Speaker 1: for me it was basketball playing, going to the you know,
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Speaker 1: conference finals, planning, Olympics, all Star Games, and all NBA.
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Speaker 1: All these were incredible accolades that I felt amazing during
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Speaker 1: that stretch. Now, when you when you feel amazing, like
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Speaker 1: you was saying, um, you know, any point in that part,
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Speaker 1: there's you know, because you kind of had your game
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Speaker 1: when it wasn't social media, and the social media is
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Speaker 1: now so prevalent, and I'm sure you own social media now,
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Speaker 1: But when social media made a difference in who a
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Speaker 1: Mari stottom Rar is if he had it when he played,
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Speaker 1: yeah for sure with me. When I played, I was
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Speaker 1: I was one of the first guys to put together
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Speaker 1: All Star campaign like a like a mini TV show
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Speaker 1: trying to tell you that goes over the you know,
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Speaker 1: uh you know, getting fans get out there to vote
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Speaker 1: right on the vote initiatives. Uh. So I was the
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Speaker 1: first guy to kind of start that whole movement. And
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Speaker 1: I was also one of the first guys. So I
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Speaker 1: have my own uh uh YouTube show, you know so,
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel, I should say so back back in the
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Speaker 1: early two thousands, I started a YouTube channel and I was.
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Speaker 1: I was just you know, recruiting all this content, even
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Speaker 1: back in the early two thousands, for all the social
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Speaker 1: media came out. So I was for sure out of
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Speaker 1: the curve. And if I would have had social media
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Speaker 1: back then, I would have took for advantage of it.
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Speaker 1: You've been a beast, You've been a social media beast.
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Speaker 1: Well I liked this, they say, well, I liked in
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Speaker 1: the game. But you know the thing about it, man,
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Speaker 1: when you're you're so articularly you're so you, so you
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Speaker 1: you resonate at a high level of professionalism, and so
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Speaker 1: there's so many stereotypes of the black athletes. How do
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Speaker 1: you break that mode? How did you break that mode?
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Speaker 1: Because you know, even when you were successful, they're still
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Speaker 1: gonna be stereotypes. How do you go through dealing with
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Speaker 1: that or do you deal with it at all? You
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Speaker 1: know what? I think the idea has been able to
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Speaker 1: to step outside of your box. Right. You know, I
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Speaker 1: grew up in a small town of Florida, and I
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Speaker 1: was also raised in New York and so always in
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Speaker 1: my community box. Um, and so for me, I was
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Speaker 1: able to step outside the box and learn new things, uh,
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Speaker 1: advance my conversation advanced my thinking, and so I think
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Speaker 1: that helped me somewhat advanced mentally, you know, and so
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Speaker 1: educational wise, I was able to somewhat pursue education, continue
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Speaker 1: reading and just trying to trying to improve myself over
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Speaker 1: the years. I think that helped me somewhat, you know,
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Speaker 1: iron out or straighten out my conversations and my way
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Speaker 1: of thinking about business. Right now, you assisted one of
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Speaker 1: your one of your titles, because you're run our sus Man,
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Speaker 1: I I put up there if I mentioned everything that
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Speaker 1: you almost a reality show, you know, a camera should
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Speaker 1: actually follow you around. You know, you got the farm,
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Speaker 1: you got the wine, you got the education, and you
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Speaker 1: also assistant player development coach for the Brooklyn Nets. Tell
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Speaker 1: us exactly what that is. Yeah, so right now it's
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Speaker 1: my first ship being a part of like a coaching staff. Right. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I played over season Israel in the championship there. I
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Speaker 1: got the m v P last season and so I
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Speaker 1: was looking to go back over season play another year.
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Speaker 1: But when I got the opportunity to coach with the Nets. Uh,
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Speaker 1: my role now is to to to help develop players,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time learn from the front office
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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff to see where I want my
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Speaker 1: future to go, whether it's front office work or whether
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Speaker 1: it's coaching. Okay, cool, now, okay, now the Brooklyn Nets. Brother,
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Speaker 1: now you you you were special when you played there. Imorry,
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lot to you. Now you get to
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Speaker 1: see three players I'm talking about Kevin Durant, James Harden,
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Speaker 1: Kylie R. As a player. How would you guard them? Oh?
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Speaker 1: What is their greatest asset as a player? Individuals? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you can't really guard him. He's got this guy a
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Speaker 1: special These gots are special offensive players that you just
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Speaker 1: cannot find way to guard these guys. And you know
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Speaker 1: the strengths is Kevin Durant is a complete all around
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Speaker 1: playercentage guys like six or eleven, and he plays like
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Speaker 1: a guard. He shoots the ball with the best of him.
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Speaker 1: He's sure, he's for sure one of the all time
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Speaker 1: great scores that we the game. I've ever seen. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is a point guard that is so creative.
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Speaker 1: I mean you can never you could. I mean I
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Speaker 1: have never seen a guard that's this creative before. As
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Speaker 1: far as the way he finished around the basket, by
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Speaker 1: the way he gets a shot off, the way he
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Speaker 1: approached the game is sensational, and then James Harden. Before
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Speaker 1: we get to James Harden, let's let's stay on Kyrie
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Speaker 1: because I was talking to Stephen A. Smith. He you know,
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Speaker 1: you know what he does with that ball man when
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Speaker 1: he's dribbling it. I saw him doing move with Toy
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Speaker 1: Gibson in the last game they played against the Knicks
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Speaker 1: Lee and he went back and forward, back and forward,
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Speaker 1: and he took him to the whole and all the
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Speaker 1: time he was dribbling. I've never seen that in my life. I'mori, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: he I mean, he's incredible. Man Like, Like I watched
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Speaker 1: him every day and practice. As you know, I'm was
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Speaker 1: every game and what I see every night is always
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Speaker 1: every every game I turn, you know, I have a
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Speaker 1: moment in the game where I just like just shave
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Speaker 1: my head like this. And I'm a guy who's seen
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Speaker 1: at all I've been running over. But but Kyries are different.
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Speaker 1: He's he's a remarkable player. Now I played. I'm originally
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Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, so I got to see the trade
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Speaker 1: of James Harden to Houston. Didn't know he was that great.
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Speaker 1: He was a sixth man at the Oklahoma thunders and uh,
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Speaker 1: and then they have him come to Houston and suddenly
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Speaker 1: blossom into a superstar. What makes him so unique in
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Speaker 1: your eyes? As an former athlete and as a as
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Speaker 1: a coach, Well, James is also a creative in his
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Speaker 1: own way, right, So make these guys special. The creativity
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Speaker 1: that one bring to the game that the game have
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Speaker 1: never seen it make you a special player, right. And
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Speaker 1: so with James, his creativity, being able to draw fouls,
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Speaker 1: being able to manipulate the defense, being able to take
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Speaker 1: with the offense gives him if you're back off from
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Speaker 1: three point, if not, he drives to the basket. He
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Speaker 1: has he has just stepped back to the side. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean we saw we saw YouTube clips of him
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Speaker 1: creating different type of shots. It's like the creativity is
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Speaker 1: something special. And for a guy like him to be
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Speaker 1: now the leading assist guy, after being after being the
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Speaker 1: leading score of the year prior, it shows you how great,
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Speaker 1: how great James rel is and how he's not selfish.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people thought that wouldn't be enough
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Speaker 1: balls and uh, Brooklyn when he got traded over there. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about you and the transition up you
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Speaker 1: were currently pursuing a master's degree in business from the
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Speaker 1: University of Miami. Why isn't that important to you? Well,
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Speaker 1: for me, I felt like, you know, when I was
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Speaker 1: in NBA, I had you know, associates that did a
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Speaker 1: lot of my finances for me, as my and my
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Speaker 1: team did a remarkable job. But I felt like I
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Speaker 1: want to be the one also knowing about all the
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Speaker 1: intricate details that's concerning the business you know on my side, right,
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Speaker 1: so I have my hands involved in a lot of
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Speaker 1: different businesses. I want to be able to know how
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Speaker 1: to articulate my conversation actually right questions, uh with with
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Speaker 1: future you know, partners or have you so that will
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Speaker 1: can conduct myself properly in meetings and so and and
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Speaker 1: note and be more knowledgeable about things going forward. You
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Speaker 1: know that it's really you know, you're in You're in
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Speaker 1: a special era for especially NBA players because NBA players
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Speaker 1: are not what they used to be. Their their their
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Speaker 1: leaders in the corporate space, their leaders and entertainment. What
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Speaker 1: what is making like NBA players so unique and how
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Speaker 1: they approach the game, why they're playing as well and
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Speaker 1: also the excellent because you can actually see you guys,
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Speaker 1: you guys, have we know you don't have a helping
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Speaker 1: on your face. I don't look at baseball because it's
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Speaker 1: not enough blacks to make a difference in baseball. At
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Speaker 1: one time they felt that too many blacks will ruin
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Speaker 1: the game of basketball. And that's not the case. What
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Speaker 1: is really making that transition for you guys so successful
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Speaker 1: because you play the most games other than outside of baseball,
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Speaker 1: so you're busy all the time. So how you were
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Speaker 1: able to pursue a degree plan and also you still
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Speaker 1: coach you okay, and but you also we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about the other two businesses, winery and the black angers
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Speaker 1: pharm in a minute, because you're still as busy as
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Speaker 1: you were when you're playing, right, And so the idea
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Speaker 1: has been able to put people in power and position
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Speaker 1: of power to bear to articulate these businesses for you
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Speaker 1: right and oversee each individual entity, which is all which
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Speaker 1: is very important. But you also have to be knowledgeable.
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Speaker 1: You have to be up on your game to to
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Speaker 1: hold the people accountable that are in charge of these
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Speaker 1: different businesses. Um. And so for me, what I think
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Speaker 1: in my generation was myself like this whole error right now,
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Speaker 1: and I think the next generation is starting to you know,
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Speaker 1: figure out as well. But me Lebron, Carmelo, Chris Paul.
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Speaker 1: You know this mean started with Kobe and Garnett and
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Speaker 1: those guys, but this whole era of of of guys
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Speaker 1: and players that are thinking more so about intelligence and
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Speaker 1: also basketball. Right. So for it's always been like a
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Speaker 1: narrative of like all the basketball players or athletes are
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Speaker 1: just dumb jocks like sports, and so we're like, that's
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Speaker 1: not true. It's that's that's that's a bad narrative. That's false.
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Speaker 1: So what we're doing now is proven that by being
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Speaker 1: got into wine business. But you know, but you're a
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Speaker 1: black Kosher winemaker. Please tell us the significance of that, well,
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Speaker 1: Ben Bull his first. I don't think there's another black
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Speaker 1: coachure winemaker in the world. Um and so I wanted
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Speaker 1: so much change that narrative. Also is being able to
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Speaker 1: now step into a coatural space space where where health
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Speaker 1: the winery out of out of Israel was important for
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Speaker 1: me to get involved in because you know, obviously having
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Speaker 1: the Biblical ties and knowing that throughout the whole context
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Speaker 1: there's always been wine involved in the Bible, right, So
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Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of net back with that soil
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Speaker 1: and create a juice that people here in American drink
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Speaker 1: and be a part of Israel like they can be
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Speaker 1: a part of that biblical connotation. Um. So that's how
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Speaker 1: Why you know, two years ago reading USA Today and
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Speaker 1: they was talking about NBA players and why why was
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Speaker 1: such a popular uh drink? And NBA players walk around
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Speaker 1: with little cases with wine in the little cases and
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Speaker 1: they travel with their whine. Why is that the case? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I think the NBA nowadays is becoming
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Speaker 1: a luxury brand. A lot of the players that are
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Speaker 1: you know, their brands are considered to be luxury brands.
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Speaker 1: So why is a part of the luxury connotation? So
18:25
Speaker 1: I think when a lot of the guys who like
18:27
Speaker 1: to go out and have dinner as you know, five
18:29
Speaker 1: star restaurants. Mission the restaurants. They want to sit down
18:32
Speaker 1: and drink wine. You want to smoke cigars, They want
18:35
Speaker 1: to drink whiskey and chill, relax, have a good fun night.
18:38
Speaker 1: Those are those are the ideas that a lot of
18:40
Speaker 1: NBA guys are thinking and so getting into that wine
18:43
Speaker 1: space kind of goes with their brand. Now, now let's
18:47
Speaker 1: go up to another part of your entrepreneur career. Is
18:50
Speaker 1: that's why I love about you. It's not like you
18:52
Speaker 1: your pigeonhole. Okay, Now, the the start of our farms,
18:56
Speaker 1: which is the organic family run farm in Duchess County,
18:59
Speaker 1: New York that raise his black angers talk about holiday
19:02
Speaker 1: come about in your life? Who turned you on to
19:04
Speaker 1: the opportunity? Well, you know what I mean. You know,
19:08
Speaker 1: it's funny. I grew up in a small town in Florida,
19:10
Speaker 1: which is like you know, it's like a farmtown kind
19:12
Speaker 1: of type. Deal. Also lived in New York for a while. Right.
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Speaker 1: So my grandfather was my grandfather, Jack was a was
19:20
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur himself. He had like fish in the morning,
19:23
Speaker 1: He had grape vines and peach trees in the BACKYARDY
19:27
Speaker 1: would have you know, all these different agriculture uh elements
19:31
Speaker 1: and you know at his home. And so when I
19:33
Speaker 1: go when I go to my grandfather's house, I would
19:35
Speaker 1: see all this and I would see how he works
19:37
Speaker 1: in until the soil. And so I was like, there's
19:41
Speaker 1: an opportunity that came along my way here in New
19:42
Speaker 1: York where a friend of mine we're moving to Italy,
19:46
Speaker 1: and had this massive ranch out upstate New York. And
19:50
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we you know, we have this ranch.
19:52
Speaker 1: We're just you know, really just trying to get rid
19:54
Speaker 1: of it. And so I was like sure. You know,
19:57
Speaker 1: for me, my initial thought was having a nice get
19:59
Speaker 1: of a place for the family. They can have a
20:01
Speaker 1: nice vacation, uh and go out the log cabin, relaxed,
20:05
Speaker 1: light up, the light up, the fire pit. Um. But
20:08
Speaker 1: then I turned it into a working farm. And so
20:12
Speaker 1: I used about a hundred and eighty five acres of it,
20:14
Speaker 1: and I brought in some black angus, I brought a
20:17
Speaker 1: farm hand. And now, and this is about seven to
20:20
Speaker 1: ten years ago. So are you in the horse? No,
20:25
Speaker 1: I have no horses. Okay, you're not riding the har
20:27
Speaker 1: you do? How do you get out there and and
20:28
Speaker 1: and corral the the anger. What do you do, you know, mop,
20:34
Speaker 1: what you're out there doing? Yeah, I got, I got,
20:35
Speaker 1: I got the a t V. A TV you rolling,
20:39
Speaker 1: huh yeah, man. So so so the farm hand actually whenever, whenever,
20:43
Speaker 1: whenever you go on the farm, you have like a
20:44
Speaker 1: certain feed and the cows that come to you, you know,
20:48
Speaker 1: because they're coming right to you, and you can somewhat
20:50
Speaker 1: you know, strow much way to go, and you fence
20:53
Speaker 1: some men depend on which which other land you want
20:56
Speaker 1: them to graze, right, because you have some parts of
20:59
Speaker 1: some parts of the land needs to grow back, and
21:02
Speaker 1: so you take them to another part of the land,
21:03
Speaker 1: fence a mailer them graze that, right, and then you
21:05
Speaker 1: read them out that way, uh, field by fielding. But
21:09
Speaker 1: it's an easy deal, man, you know, it's it's it's
21:11
Speaker 1: an easy deal. And it's fun because now there's a
21:14
Speaker 1: new there's a new situation now with the American government
21:16
Speaker 1: that that now are giving back to the black farmers. Yeah,
21:20
Speaker 1: because before um um, you know, there was like I
21:24
Speaker 1: think like sixteen percent of the population were black farmers
21:30
Speaker 1: and now it's down to like point two percent of
21:33
Speaker 1: the farmers that are black. And so now the government's
21:36
Speaker 1: are gonna reissue that and try to enhance black farmers.
21:38
Speaker 1: So I was also out of that curve as well.
21:41
Speaker 1: You know, Congressman uh Lindsay Graham called it reparations, that's
21:45
Speaker 1: what he was calling. That was in this deal, you know,
21:48
Speaker 1: funding for black farmers. You know, when you when you
21:51
Speaker 1: are a man of many hats, and I won't use
21:55
Speaker 1: the word what had are you most proud of win? Now?
21:57
Speaker 1: But what allows you the ability to healthy task? Well?
22:02
Speaker 1: I think for me, everything that everything that I get
22:04
Speaker 1: myself involved in, our passions that I love doing right,
22:09
Speaker 1: and then I also learned about it first, I learned
22:11
Speaker 1: about it and understand it first before I really get involved. Um,
22:15
Speaker 1: and so it allows me to do it naturally. You know.
22:18
Speaker 1: I feel like if you force something you're not too
22:20
Speaker 1: sure about it, then it makes it It doesn't look
22:22
Speaker 1: as natural, doesn't feel as clean, it doesn't feel as right,
22:25
Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, everything that I do is based
22:28
Speaker 1: upon like my passions, what I enjoy doing. How can
22:31
Speaker 1: I now pass this down to the next generation right
22:35
Speaker 1: and set the tone for for them. So let's talk
22:38
Speaker 1: about that next generation that you talk about a wellness
22:41
Speaker 1: and and then you talk about that you know, so
22:43
Speaker 1: they won't struggle. You know, do you feel a responsibility
22:47
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to put your on this, but
22:48
Speaker 1: I hopefully we're just having a really good conversation with
22:50
Speaker 1: a successful person who has been successful with so many
22:53
Speaker 1: of its level as an athlete, now as an academic
22:57
Speaker 1: because you got your masters, you gott about undergraduate degree.
23:00
Speaker 1: You can't get your can't skill to get that, so
23:02
Speaker 1: you've been successful at that level as well. Your entrepreneur,
23:05
Speaker 1: you you wouldn't have step on in the beauty of
23:07
Speaker 1: having land. I always my dad just always say God
23:10
Speaker 1: ain't making no more land. So when you buy the land,
23:13
Speaker 1: that's an investment. Did you should hold on too? So
23:15
Speaker 1: that's a smart move on your part right there. But
23:17
Speaker 1: when you talk about next generation, what is your responsibility
23:21
Speaker 1: especially in wellness because in twenty we discovered how a
23:26
Speaker 1: global pandemic can affect African Americans and we saw the
23:30
Speaker 1: George Flaw situation. What role did you feel you've had
23:33
Speaker 1: to play and what role did you play from the
23:35
Speaker 1: pandemic side and from a civil unrest and trying to
23:38
Speaker 1: try to get people understand that we are and we
23:41
Speaker 1: should be represented properly as African Americans. Yeah, for sure.
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think my ideal of it
23:47
Speaker 1: is being able to understand our heritage, sir. And I
23:50
Speaker 1: think that's key because I'm sure, I'm sure there's governmental
23:53
Speaker 1: facts and paperwork in the files there, but a lot
23:57
Speaker 1: of the African Americans that were brought to America from
23:59
Speaker 1: the children of Israel, from a you Dan that you
24:03
Speaker 1: Dan region. So for us, for me, what I always
24:07
Speaker 1: try to connect the people with is being able for
24:09
Speaker 1: them to reconnect with the Bible so they can understand
24:12
Speaker 1: their heritage and then start to follow suit in that way.
24:15
Speaker 1: And so that isn't that's an important message for me
24:19
Speaker 1: to someone give to the children because we have our
24:23
Speaker 1: heritage only goes back to slavery, you know at one point,
24:26
Speaker 1: like we've we've been there's so many different titles of
24:28
Speaker 1: of heritage that we've been given. Whether it's Black, it's Negro,
24:32
Speaker 1: whether it's African American, whether it's you know, whatever these
24:35
Speaker 1: names are. But what's our heritage and our heritage is
24:39
Speaker 1: the Bible. Our here, our heritage is inside the history book.
24:43
Speaker 1: Not important for us to reconnect with that and to
24:46
Speaker 1: understand what that means and do your own particular learning
24:49
Speaker 1: to figure that part out and then go from there. Oh. Man,
24:53
Speaker 1: it's been a wonderful conversation, Tomora. Man. Uh, you're special, brother.
24:57
Speaker 1: But because you know that, and I hope you understand
24:59
Speaker 1: that the that you've given to us as an entrepreneur,
25:01
Speaker 1: as a leader, as a as a person who's understands
25:05
Speaker 1: the value of education, as a landowner, which is beautiful
25:09
Speaker 1: for black people to say that, because we know that
25:11
Speaker 1: land has been stripped away from us illegally at times, uh,
25:15
Speaker 1: from a scam wave and we're not and not being
25:17
Speaker 1: in the position to make money from the land that
25:20
Speaker 1: we buy. And you were smart enough to see there
25:22
Speaker 1: was value in it and having the black angers for
25:24
Speaker 1: me raising uh as these cattle I'm psuming up there
25:27
Speaker 1: and making money off of it. Continue to do what
25:29
Speaker 1: you do, man, I want to. I wanna thank you
25:31
Speaker 1: brother for coming on my show. Money making conversations. Absolutely, bro,
25:34
Speaker 1: thanks as an amazing conversation and us do it again. Yeah, Man,
25:38
Speaker 1: tell you something more. I'm not lying, man. You are
25:40
Speaker 1: gifted brother, But you knew that al right, because you're
25:42
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25:44
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25:47
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25:50
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at man. You are a special man
25:53
Speaker 1: and I was happy to see you on Stephen as
25:55
Speaker 1: Stephen and Stephen as World Man because you know, a
25:58
Speaker 1: lot of time people they image of you, of anybody,
26:02
Speaker 1: especially from an athletic standpoint, and you're so smooth and
26:05
Speaker 1: you're so smart. Uh, don't stop, man, and uh I'll
26:08
Speaker 1: always to let you know, Man, I'm a fan of
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