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Proof that Biden Admin Targeted Christians plus Tucker Spirals Out of Control · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Vertical Center, Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you.
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  Speaker 2: It is very nice to have you with us. By
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  Speaker 2: we do. We've got a lot centered to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: including this headline, the Department of Justice Task Force finds
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  Speaker 2: quote numerous instances of anti Christian government bias under the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration. This is a massive story basically about the
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  Speaker 2: government going after Christians.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the facts are deeply disturbing. During the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 3: we saw the federal government target people of faith, but
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  Speaker 3: in particular believing Christians, believing Christians were persona non grata
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  Speaker 3: under the Biden administration. And when President Trump came in,
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  Speaker 3: he created a task force chaired by Attorney General Pam
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  Speaker 3: Bondi looking at instances of religious discrimination within our government.
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  Speaker 4: This was the preliminary report.
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  Speaker 3: From that task for force, detailing how multiple government agencies
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  Speaker 3: under the Biden administration targeted Christians for persecution.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to break all that down.
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  Speaker 3: We're also going to talk about a very sad development,
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  Speaker 3: which is the spiral down of Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 3: continues to get more and more extreme, and this week
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  Speaker 3: he decided to say that he wanted to apologize to
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  Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden's family, and he also said astonishingly enough,
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't know if Hamas was a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 3: He's just asking questions. Gosh, what has Hamas ever done
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  Speaker 3: to us? It really is sad to see what has
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  Speaker 3: happened to someone who used to be a conservative stalwart.
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  Speaker 4: He used to be not nuts all that on today's pod.
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  Speaker 2: Burna dot com. Right now, Senator, let's get started with
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  Speaker 2: this story. And this task force that was put together
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  Speaker 2: to a dedicate anti Christian bias in our government is
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  Speaker 2: actually chaired by the Attorney General Pambondy, and what they
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  Speaker 2: have found is under the Biden administration, they weaponize the
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  Speaker 2: quote full way of the federal government against Christians that
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  Speaker 2: according to Trump's leadership, they laid out a new report
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  Speaker 2: where there are numerous instances of past anti Christian bias
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  Speaker 2: and recommendations to protect faith in America, especially when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to our federal government going after people of faith.
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  Speaker 3: Well, as you noted, Pambondi, the Attorney General, chairs this
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  Speaker 3: task force. We've had Pambondy as a guest on this
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  Speaker 3: podcast right at the beginning of her tenure, and let's
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  Speaker 3: break down what the task force found.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what Fox News reports.
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  Speaker 3: Quote, the Biden administration weaponized the full weight of the
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  Speaker 3: federal government against Christians, according to Trump leadership, laying out
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  Speaker 3: in a new report the numerous instances of anti Christian
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  Speaker 3: bias and recommendations to protect faith in America. This report,
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  Speaker 3: the task Force had a clear mandate to ensure that quote,
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  Speaker 3: any unlawful and improper conduct, policies, or practices that target
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  Speaker 3: Christians are identified, terminated, and rectified. And here's what the
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  Speaker 3: task Force says in the overview the damage that can
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  Speaker 3: be done when religious liberty is not protected and preserved
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  Speaker 3: for all Americans. The Task Force makes this commitment. The
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  Speaker 3: federal government will never again be permitted to turn its
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  Speaker 3: power against people of faith. Under President Trump an Attorney
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  Speaker 3: General Bondi's leadership, in partnership with all members of this
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  Speaker 3: task Force, the rule of law will be enforced with vigor,
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  Speaker 3: and every religion will be treated with equality in both
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  Speaker 3: policy and action. And the report adds the days of
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  Speaker 3: anti Christian bias and the federal government are over. Faith
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  Speaker 3: is not a liability in America, it is a liberty.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to go through their numerous instances of
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  Speaker 3: anti Christian bias that the report lays out. The report
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  Speaker 3: concludes Joe Biden weaponized the full weight of the federal
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  Speaker 3: government against Christians and trampled on their fundamental First Amendment rights.
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  Speaker 3: The task force founded the Department of Defense, the Equal
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  Speaker 3: Employment Opportunity Commission, and the Department of Labor all quote deprioritized,
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  Speaker 3: mishandled or denied requests for religious exemptions to the Bide
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  Speaker 3: administration's COVID nineteen mandate. So that's one aspect where you
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  Speaker 3: had believing Christians that wanted an exception to the COVID
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  Speaker 3: mandate and the Biden administration. If you're a Christian, you
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  Speaker 3: need not apply. The task Force also found that the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Education, under the Bide administration quote, attempted to
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  Speaker 3: impose record breaking fines on some of the nation's largest
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  Speaker 3: Christian universities, including Liberty University fourteen million dollars and Grand
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  Speaker 3: Canyon University thirty seven point seven million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, let's just stop there and talk about
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  Speaker 2: Liberty University. So if people understand the history of Liberty,
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  Speaker 2: Liberty University has been a front end center university that
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  Speaker 2: is of Christian faith, Christian values, Christian students. They have
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  Speaker 2: had many, by the way, political people come there to speak,
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  Speaker 2: Conservatives obviously among those. That is a clear attack on
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  Speaker 2: that university, trying to hurt that university.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Look, as you know, in twenty sixteen when I ran
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  Speaker 3: for president, I launched my presidential campaign at Liberty University.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking at that convocation in March of twenty fifteen, it
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  Speaker 3: was incredible. We had about ten thousand students there. Liberty
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  Speaker 3: is a tremendous institution, but it is a Bible believing
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  Speaker 3: Evangelical Christian university. And to the Biden that meant it
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  Speaker 3: was an enemy, that mint it was someone to be persecuted,
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  Speaker 3: to be targeted. And this pattern of animus it really
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  Speaker 3: combines two things, one the deep distrust and hatred of
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  Speaker 3: evangelical Christians, with two the weaponization of government. The willingness
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  Speaker 3: of the Biden administration to say, we've got the Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice, We've got the FBI, we've got the Department
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  Speaker 3: of Labor, We've got the Department of Education, We've got
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  Speaker 3: the irs. We are going to use government to go
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  Speaker 3: after our enemies. That is a pattern we saw for
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  Speaker 3: four years. I'm really glad this task force is laying
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  Speaker 3: out the results because the results. But by the way,
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  Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security, here's what the task force
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  Speaker 3: found that Customs and Border Protection omitted Christian perspectives from
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  Speaker 3: a directive for detainees, but deliberately noted accommodations for Islam
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  Speaker 3: sects of Judaism and Rastafarianism. In other words, under the
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  Speaker 3: Biden administration, and if you're a Rastafari and Yaman, that
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  Speaker 3: was fully protected. Yeah, but God forbid you're a Bible
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  Speaker 3: believing Christian. They never heard of you. Sorry, no one here,
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  Speaker 3: no new number who.
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  Speaker 2: This Yeah, well, and you look at this, and it
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  Speaker 2: goes back to there were a lot of I think suspicions, right,
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  Speaker 2: and the suspicions were that the administration was anti Christian.
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  Speaker 2: If you brought up, of course, everybody in the media
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  Speaker 2: is like, that's absurd, that's absurd. We're now getting the
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  Speaker 2: documentation to show that, yes, these groups and organizations, universities,
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  Speaker 2: actually felt like they were clearly being targeted, were right
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  Speaker 2: and now vindicated. The question is, how do we make
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  Speaker 2: sure this hasn't happened again. That's part of what Pambonding
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  Speaker 2: and the trum administration are trying to accomplish here.
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  Speaker 4: One of the most powerful tools is sunlight.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I've urged PAMBONDI, I've
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  Speaker 3: rged just about every Department of Justice official who has
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  Speaker 3: been confirmed.
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  Speaker 4: I've verged urged.
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  Speaker 3: Cash Mattel, the head of the FBI, is engage in
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  Speaker 3: radical transparency. I've urged Bobby Kenned at HHS, engage in
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  Speaker 3: radical transparency. Shine a light on what the Biden administration did.
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  Speaker 3: Make it public. Look much of this abuse of power.
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  Speaker 3: It's like cockroaches. It thrives in the darkness. It thrives
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  Speaker 3: when it is hidden. There is power to just shining
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  Speaker 3: a light on it. And by the way, if anyone
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  Speaker 3: violated the law, if anyone committed a criminal act, they
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  Speaker 3: ought to be prosecuted. That's the next step of this inquiry.
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  Speaker 3: But the very first thing is just exposing it. So,
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  Speaker 3: for example, let's take a law, the Face Act, the
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  Speaker 3: Freedom of Access to clinic entrances, Act. The task force
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  Speaker 3: found the Department of Justice under the Biden administration arrested
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  Speaker 3: and convicted approximately two dozen individuals under the Face Act
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  Speaker 3: for praying and for demonstrating outside abortion facilities. And let
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  Speaker 3: me stop and repeat that. They arrested approximately two thousand
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  Speaker 3: dozen individuals for praying. That was deemed a criminal offense.
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  Speaker 3: Praying and demonstrating. Well, there is that whole thing called
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  Speaker 3: the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, the first
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  Speaker 3: Amendment that protects the right to free speech. But not
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  Speaker 3: under Joe Biden. If your speech was in defense of
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  Speaker 3: the right to life, if your prayer was in the
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  Speaker 3: defense the right to life, they viewed you as a
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  Speaker 3: criminal defendant. And yet, the way the Face Act is written,
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  Speaker 3: it is written to prevent to protect the right of
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  Speaker 3: access to an abortion clinic, but it is also designed
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  Speaker 3: to protect the right of access to places of worship
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  Speaker 3: and crisis pregnancy centers. Here's what the report founded. They
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  Speaker 3: would not enforce it for churches or crisis pregnancy centers.
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  Speaker 3: It was a pure double standards. If their politics agreed
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  Speaker 3: with you, then bring out the jack boots. If you're
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  Speaker 3: a little old lady praying, get ready to be in handcuffs.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's a church, if it's a pregnancy access center.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, we saw radical pro abortion forces fire
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  Speaker 3: bombing ignancy access centers, and yet the Department of Justice
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  Speaker 3: did no arrests. It was simply not a priority. At
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  Speaker 3: the same time, the task Force lays out that at
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  Speaker 3: the FBI, the FBI specifically targeted quote radical traditionalist Catholics
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  Speaker 3: as domestic terrorism threats. As treasury, the task Force points
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  Speaker 3: out that many quote pro Christian groups have been debanked.
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  Speaker 4: This was a pattern across the board.
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  Speaker 3: The State Department quote limited humanitarian relief to Christians relative
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  Speaker 3: to other populations and offered muted response to attacks on
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  Speaker 3: Christians compared to other groups. And at the State Department,
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  Speaker 3: the task force said it discovered evidence that quote preferential
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  Speaker 3: employment practices were afforded for those of non Christian religions,
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  Speaker 3: while Christian employees quote were disfavored. And it continues to
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  Speaker 3: say it was particularly concerning that employees were less likely
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  Speaker 3: to be permitted leave for observation of certain Christian holidays
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to non Christian holidays.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so you hear that center, and then here
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  Speaker 2: comes a million dour question. We've exposed it. Right, that's
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  Speaker 2: great news. We've found it. Is there going to be
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  Speaker 2: any accountability now? I asked that question, also asking this,
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  Speaker 2: The task Force says they had a clear mandate again
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  Speaker 2: Pambini in charge to ensure quote that any unlawful and
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  Speaker 2: improper conduct policies or practices that number one target Christians
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  Speaker 2: they're identified, then terminated, and then they say it will
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  Speaker 2: be quote rectified. So I hear that, I'm actually a
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  Speaker 2: little bit hopeful. Does that mean, and I want you
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  Speaker 2: to put your lawyer hat on here, does that mean
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  Speaker 2: that there's a real chance people could actually not only
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  Speaker 2: lose their job, but actually be charged with crime.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I very much hope. So the first step is
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  Speaker 3: just transparency, making it public, cataloging it, giving specific instances.
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  Speaker 3: This report, this reports a preliminary report. They're planning to
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  Speaker 3: put out a more fulsome report with extensive details and
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  Speaker 3: as much as they can catalog it and build a
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  Speaker 3: public record that is valuable. It is important not just
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  Speaker 3: to have it abstract, but to identify who the decision
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  Speaker 3: makers were. Some of those decision makers are going to
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  Speaker 3: be political appointees from the Biden administration who are gone.
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  Speaker 4: Who are out of office.
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  Speaker 3: Other decision makers are going to be career government employees
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  Speaker 3: who eagerly participated in the persecution of Christians. At a
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  Speaker 3: very minimum, any career federal government employee who persecuted Christians
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  Speaker 3: should be terminated. They should lose their job. It is
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  Speaker 3: important for that to be a firing offense because unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: at some point in the future we're going to have
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  Speaker 3: another Democrat administer and the pattern we've seen from Bill
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  Speaker 3: Clinton to Barack Obama to Joe Biden is we've seen
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  Speaker 3: each Democrat administration get worse and worse and worse. And
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  Speaker 3: so whenever we have the next Democrat administration, if we
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  Speaker 3: don't do something significant, we can anticipate it will be
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  Speaker 3: even worse. One of the significant things is if people
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  Speaker 3: lose their jobs. If it becomes clear if you target Christians,
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  Speaker 3: if you violate the law, you will be terminated. That
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  Speaker 3: is important as a deterrent. It's also important for accountability,
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  Speaker 3: and then if anyone violated the law, if anyone committed
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  Speaker 3: criminal conduct, they should be prosecuted. And the most likely
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  Speaker 3: instance of criminal conduct is if they lied under oath.
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  Speaker 3: And you frequently have individuals who testify before Congress or
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  Speaker 3: otherwise are lying under oath. That's the most direct way
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  Speaker 3: of criminal liability. You know, we rememberer back to Lois Lerner,
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  Speaker 3: who during during the the Obama administration targeted Christians at
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  Speaker 3: the I R S. And Lois Lerner ended up pleading
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  Speaker 3: the fifth in front of Congress. She ended up refusing
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  Speaker 3: to testify. She ended up being held in contempt of Congress,
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  Speaker 3: and then the Obama administration refused to do anything about it.
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  Speaker 3: The Obama Department of Justice refused to prosecute the contempt finding.
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  Speaker 3: That's a pattern that should not be replicated, and so
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  Speaker 3: everyone who violated the law needs to be accountable. That's
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  Speaker 3: important both for holding people accountable for past conduct but
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  Speaker 3: also for deterrents going forward.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Senatra, I want to move to another issue,
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  Speaker 2: and this one deals with Tucker Carlson. I was actually
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  Speaker 2: genuinely shocked by the audio when this broke. I really
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  Speaker 2: couldn't believe what I was witnessing when this audio broke.
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is now coming out and he's, like said sang,
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  Speaker 2: he wants to give condolences to a Sabin Lauden's family,
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  Speaker 2: and he says he's not even sure the Hamas is
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  Speaker 2: actually a radical Jihadis organization.
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  Speaker 1: Those are his words. What in the hell is going
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  Speaker 1: on here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, you and I both know Tucker Carlson well,
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  Speaker 3: and something is wrong with Tucker Carlson. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what the hell is wrong with him, But look, Tucker
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  Speaker 3: is someone He's very smart, he's very talented. During the
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  Speaker 3: COVID lockdowns, Tucker's monologue every night was destination TV. He
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  Speaker 3: was unloading on idiotic practices that were shutting our country down.
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  Speaker 4: I called him the midst of COVID.
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  Speaker 3: I said, Tucker, you're the single best thing on television
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  Speaker 3: every single night. Thank you for doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: I look at the Tucker today, he is unrecognizable. As
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  Speaker 3: listeners of this podcast know, I went on Tucker's show.
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  Speaker 3: I knew Tucker was going to come after me. I
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  Speaker 3: knew he was going to come after me, and sadly
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  Speaker 3: do so dishonestly. In the course of that two hour
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  Speaker 3: by back and forth, it was a lot of firefight.
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  Speaker 3: It was a bloodbath. I think on both sides. You
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  Speaker 3: saw Tucker engage in bizarre counterfactual assertions. He said, for example,
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  Speaker 3: Iran's not trying to kill the president. What do you
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  Speaker 3: mean no, no, no, no, no, Iran. There's no evidence Iran's
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  Speaker 3: trying to kill the president. That is, of course absurd.
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  Speaker 3: Multiple people have been indicted for being Iranian agents, trying
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  Speaker 3: to kill the president, trying to kill former US senior officials.
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  Speaker 4: But but and and.
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  Speaker 3: Tucker bizarrely said, you know, if Iran was trying to
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  Speaker 3: kill the president, well then we should nuke them, which
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  Speaker 3: which was a really bizarre proposition. No, we should not
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  Speaker 3: be nuking Iran or anyone else. But I got to say,
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  Speaker 3: the week that I did the Tucker interview was the
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  Speaker 3: week right before the President launched the bombing attack on
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  Speaker 3: Iran's nuclear facilities. And and Tucker was was spiraling at
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  Speaker 3: the time because he was attacking Donald Trump and saying,
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  Speaker 3: if the United States bombs Iran, he said, it will
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  Speaker 3: be World War three. Number one, Yeah, he said, thousands
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  Speaker 3: of Americans will die. Number two, And he said America
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  Speaker 3: will lose. Number three, that Iran will beat us in
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  Speaker 3: World War three.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, every one of.
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  Speaker 2: Those, so he said at the time it was shocking
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  Speaker 2: when he said, everybody was like, what are you talking about.
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  Speaker 1: America is going to lose to Iran? Are you kidding?
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  Speaker 3: Me. Every one of those predictions we now know the truth.
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  Speaker 3: They were laughingly, entirely totally false. And I got to say,
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  Speaker 3: for some reason, when when Tucker tried desperately to convince
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  Speaker 3: President Trump not to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities and Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump disagreed with Tucker Carlson, and Tucker put out his
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  Speaker 3: newsletter and said, well, you're not America first if you
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: bomb Iran, and Trump responded, no, I'm the one that
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: decides what America First is, and I'm telling you right
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: now defending America is America First. I gotta say it
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: just started Tucker on this downward spiral. So in the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: weeks and months since then, he had some loon professor
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: on talking about Hitler and saying, you know, there's a
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: very good argument the United States should have intervened in
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: World War Two on the side of Hitler and the Nazis,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and Tucker kind of nods, no, there is not a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: good argument America should have supported the Nazis. The Nazis
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: were evil period the end. I gotta say, any commentator,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: if you're sitting around thinking, you know what I need
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: to do. I need to go out and embrace Adolf Hitler.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Defend Hitler. Just pause right there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Think about what you're doing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: There are very few ironclad rules in politics, or history
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: or life, but I'll give you one. Adolf Hitler always, always,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: always bad. Just trust me, this is a safe ground
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: to be on. Yeah, Hitler bad.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Let me add number two to the list real quick,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: because if you go Hitler first in there next for
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: especially for people that are I don't know, forty five
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and under, the most evil guy that we probably saw
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: in our lifetime in real life, and that was a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: guy by the name of Osama bin Lauden, right like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: throw him out there nine to eleven if you were alive,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: if you remember it. Osama bin Ladd's another one. Don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: don't side with Adolf Hitler. And if you were my age,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm forty four now, don't whatever you do, don't side
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with Osama bin Laden, which brings us to this unhinged
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Tucker point number two.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just want you to listen to what
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Tucker had to say about Osama bin Laden.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Give a listen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Let me just say I would be totally comfortable sharing
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: condolences with Osama bin Laden's family. I hate Osama bin Laden.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: On the other hand, if somebody dies, it's okay to
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: say I'm sorry to his family that he has a murder.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's immaterial. I would say
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: that to the family of an executed murderer in a prison.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: It doesn't mean I support the murderer or the murderer.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: But this is family, Like, that's okay. That's called like
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: human decency and anyone who's against that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: This, let me just be clear, if I meet any
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of the Osama bin laden family members center, I'm not
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: gonna walk up back. Let me give you American hug,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: real quick thoughts and prayers like, No, that's not gonna happen.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Look, this is a bizarre position that that Tucker says
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: he's okay with giving condolences to Osama Bin Lauden's family.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: By the way, on his same reasoning, he'd be just
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: fine giving condolences to Adolf Hitler's family. Let me tell
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you right now, I am not remotely sorry that Osama
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: bin Lauden is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Adolf
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Hitler is dead. By the way, I'm not remotely sorry
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: that Jeffrey Dahmer is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Ted Bundy is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Charles
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Manson is dead.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: If people are evil, psychotic mass murderers, then society celebrates
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that they are no longer with us.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: There is justice.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I believe in the principle of justice and understand. Osama
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: bin Laden led out Kaita. He planned nine to eleven.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: He executed nine to eleven, in which case nearly three
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: thousand people, most of whom were Americans, were murdered. On
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: September eleventh, You and I were both alive. I was
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Heidi was in the White House
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: at the US Trade Representative's office on nine to eleven.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: She evacuated the White House because those terrorists were murdering people.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I lost a friend of mine, Barbara Olsen, in the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: plane that crashed into the Pentagon when the two towers
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: collapsed in New York City. That was a grotesque act
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of war. By the way, I'm also not sorry that
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: the kamikaze pilots in Pearl Harbor who murdered American sailors,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not sorry that they're dead. There is something bizarre.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: There is a moral relativism to saying, well, we should
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: number one carry out an incredible military act that takes
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: out Wasama bin Laden, But then number two express condolence
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to the family, to the toddlers, We're so sorry we
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: took out your psychotic daddy who murdered nearly three thousand Americans. No,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: we're not sorry. And this moral relativism, I gotta say
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it is a weird thing. Yeah, when someone who considers
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: himself calls himself a conservative sounds exactly like Ilhan Omar,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it is a weird thing when a supposed conservative sounds
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: like Rashida Talib, sounds like the AOC and says, gosh,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: we ought to be saying I'm sorry to Osama bin
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Laden's family.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: No we should not.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's also weird that he goes in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: this way like attacking America in our foreign policy in
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: essence and anybody that doesn't feel sorry for Terris, while
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: also giving propaganda out there on behalf of Vladimir Putin
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and Russia with the interview that he did with him,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and then going shopping at the grocery store saying how
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: great life is in Russia, which if you go twenty
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: miles outside of Russia, in any direction of Moscow. It's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: very different than what it looks like for the elite
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: that are in Moscow. And everything in his trip was,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: by the way, also controlled. They only let you see
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: what they want you to see. It's not like he
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: can roam freely and decide, Hey, I don't want to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: go to your sure, you send me too. I want
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to go to another one that ain't gonna happen. And
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: then you go from this to what he had to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: say about a terrorist organization that has killed countless Jews
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and is said from the river to the sea, they
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: want to take out and annihilate all all Jews in Israel.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: They want Israel to cease to exist. And he's like, well,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: hold on a second, maybe they're not a terrorist organization.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're just a political organization. We should think about that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, what the hell's going on?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, give a listen to what he said about hamosbus
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: because this is utterly bizarre. This is where Tucker has
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: gone full on woke leftist and don't take my word
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Listen to Tucker.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: No one can plausibly claim that a Christian family or
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: in Hamas Okay, So, like, what tell me, you can't
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: claim that they're in Hamas will simultaneously claiming that Hamas
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: is uh you know, grupugie hotties, their Islamic extremists, which
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: they also claim constantly, which I don't know if that's true.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: By the way, it seems more like a political organization.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: But whatever it is, they're telling us constantly they're al Qaeda,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: So it can't also be true that Christians are a member.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Of al Qaeda.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, yeah, So then we know they're not an Amas.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: So why did they get killed? Why was their church book?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I go back to this and I again it's like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he's become an apologist for a terrorist organization, and he's saying, well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: they're not really a terrorist organization. They there, and then
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the Christian aspect of this intertwarting that they're going, well,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: then why do we kill them?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: We kill people that are terrorist centered, that's what we do.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Well, what he's saying there is bizarre. I don't know
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: that Hamas is a terrorist organization. Let me be very clear,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Hamas is a terrorist organization.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He'll tell you that, by the way, Am I wrong?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Like they'll actually tell you they're a terrorist organization. They're
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: happy to tell you this and show you how good
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: they are at it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. ISIS is a terrorist organization.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: This is not just a question of opinion. This is
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: a question of facts. So let's give some fact. Article
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: eight of the nineteen eighty eight Hamas Covenants states quote
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Jahad is its path, and death for the sake of
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Allah is the loftiest of his wishes. This is who
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson is defending. Globally, HAMAS is designated a terrorist
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: organization by the United States of America, that as a
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: matter of federal law, by Australia, by Canada, by Paraguay,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: by Israel, by Japan, by New Zealand, by the United Kingdom,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and the European Union. Now HAMAS is not formally designated
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: by Arab countries. But HAMAS is a branch of the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood. By the way, I have legislation in the
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Senate right now to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: terrorist organization because they unquestionably are. Article two of Hamasa's
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: charter describes them as quote one of the wings of
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. In Palace Stein, the Muslim Brotherhood, the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: umbrella organization is designated as a terrorist organization in Bahrain,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia, and in the UAE. They
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: have always been a terrorist organization if you just look
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: at Wikipedia. No no friend of Israel, no enemy of Hamas.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Here's what Wikipedia says.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Quote.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: From two thousand to two thousand and four, Hamas was
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: responsible for killing nearly four hundred Israelis and wounding more
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: than two thousand in four hundred and twenty five attacks.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: According to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, from two
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: thousand and one through May of two thousand and eight,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Hamas launched more than three thousand Casam rockets in two thousand,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: five hundred mortar attacks into Israel. And of course, Hamas
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: is who carried out the October seventh attacks, who sent
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: death squads into Israel, where they systematically went house to house,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: murdering every person in the held, targeting them because they
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: are Jews. They murdered elderly people, they murdered women, they
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: murdered children, they murdered infants, they murdered toddlers, They raped
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: women and little girls, and they murdered over twelve hundred Israelis,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: many of whom were Americans. It's one of the worst
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: terror attacks in history against American citizens. And Tucker says, well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I think they're a political organization. He bases this on
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the weird fact. Yes, it is true that in the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Gaza strip when they had elections, Hamas won. The fact
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: that the voters elected a tort terrorist organization does not
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: make them a political organization. They were in elected office
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: when they carried out the October seventh terror attacks. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: so I got to say, look, this bizarre statement wasn't
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: in the course of an episode where Tucker was interviewing
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: this disgruntled State Department employee who was fired hired by
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration, yep, and he was giving him an opportunity.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And by the way, he was also slandering uh a
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: young man who works for the State Department, works for
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Mike Huckabee, the President Trump's ambassador to Israel, works for
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Marco Rubio and and and Tucker did an entire segment
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: attacking this young man. Why because he's Mark Levin's stepson.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I gotta say, it is grotesque for Tucker to go
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: after Mark Levin.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: He does, And let's explain why real quick, because I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: look Mark's a dear friend of mine in yours as well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: This is a relative Mark Levin. Mark Levin is clearly
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: an advocate for Israel. He has stood there and for America,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: let's be clear, and for America America. And so now
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: since Tucker Carlson, I guess is like, all right, well,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: anybody under that I don't like, right, Mark Levin a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: family member, Let's just hammer that person to somehow make
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: it hurt. I wish she had this much animosity towards
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin when he was interviewing him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And by the way, not just Flatimir Putin, he yet
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: the president of Iran. And I mean it was a
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: love fest. I mean he practically spooned with the president
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: of Iran. I don't know if he was big spoon
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: or little spoon, but there was no skepticism.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: And by the way, he's.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Literally interviewing someone who is actively trying to murder Donald Trump.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And this is a weird game. So listen, Tucker recognizes
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: that the folks that listen to him will get very
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: mad at him if he explicitly criticizes Donald Trump.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So what does he do? Instead?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: He just criticizes everything Trump does. He blasts. He has
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: a whole segment on how Mike Huckabee is terrible. Well,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: who is it that appointed Mike Huckabe the ambassador to Israel?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: That would be Donald J.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Trump.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: And everything he attacks about Ambassador Huckabee, he is doing
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: on behalf of Trump. But Tucker is unwilling. He doesn't
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: have the courage, you don't have the backbone to actually
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: attack Trump, so he just attacks everything Trump does. He
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: attacks bombing Iran. Well, who was the commander in chief
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: who made the order? And by the way, that was
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: an incredibly successful military operation that made America safer. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: gotta say listen, if you say something publicly and the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: words you said are indistinguishable from something said by Ilhan
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Omar or Rashida Talib, that ought to be a sign
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: you've got a problem. And I don't know what's going
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: on with Tucker. I don't know what is driving. It's
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: one thing to feel kind of isolationist and to say, gosh,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't like wars. Okay, fine, that is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a view. And to be clear, Donald Trump doesn't like
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: wars either. Joe Biden and the Democrats get us in war.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: President Trump has gotten us out of war. But getting
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: us out of war you do it through strength, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: getting us out of war does not mean that you
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: refuse to defend America. Fine, if Tucker wants to be isolationist,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: knock yourself out. But this are apology and defense of
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden, the defense of Hamas, and defense of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the president of Iran. That is, there is something unhinged,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and I hope people around Tucker go in and say,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: come on, man, yeah, come come on, let's say we
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: love America and we're not gonna lie.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: To the American people.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:23
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