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[BxBD] Usyk - Dubois, Bam - Cafu, and Pacquiao - Barrios · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Boxing Before Dark. I,
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uh... Holy shit. We just had... Possibly card
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of the year. Not possibly. I think it just hands
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down is card of the year. So far, I would say
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so. We're not going to be talking about it this
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time, but it was billed as ring three. Berlanga
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versus Shiraz. Shakur Stevenson versus William
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Zepeda. David Morrell versus Imam Kataev. It
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was just overall an incredible card. It was really
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good. Bangers. Yeah, if you didn't get it, if
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you didn't watch it, I'll say, then you missed
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out. Sucks to be you. I think you can purchase
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the pay -per -views after on DAZN as well. And
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honestly, this one might be worth the reduced
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price if you missed it. I think they delay by
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a week. So based on our scheduling, how we do
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it on B -Sides and here on Before Dark, if you
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wanted to wait, you could watch it, I think,
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for free and then catch our recap at that same
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time, within the same week. Nice. That's just
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how the scheduling works out for us. Okay, so
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Francisco Rodriguez, adverse finding in VADA.
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What the shit? They still haven't said what it
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is, and it's going to be fucking hilarious if
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he pops for weed again. Because that's just going
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to make that beating even funnier. Pops for weed
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again? Isn't it Francisco Rodriguez that tested
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positive for weed, or am I being racist? I have
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no idea. I don't know. Give me two seconds. I've
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only known Francisco Rodriguez from his fight
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with Yafai. That's all I know about him. That
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might be confusing to... Rodriguez's. Yeah, I
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mean, it happens. No, all I'm getting is about
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this last one. Adverse finding with Vada, though?
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Yeah. Oh, jeez. Any preliminary... They never
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said anything. No exogenous testosterone or any
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of that sort of stuff. Any particular drug. Yeah.
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Usually they would have released it at this point.
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Yeah, and I still don't see anything saying anything
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specific. It's just adverse findings, which...
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Usually means it's something that could maybe
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be explained away, such as Canelo's, like, tainted
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bee for Fury's wild boar meat or something. Wild
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boar meat. Not that I believe any of those. Right.
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I'm just saying. If they don't specifically say
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what it is, it's usually something that you could
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try and explain away. Man, I can only think that
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he's going to go with the tainted beef situation.
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Again, I kind of hope it's marijuana, which I
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don't think anybody is actually going to say
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is a performance -enhancing drug, and it would
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make me laugh. But it is still banned by VADA.
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Yeah, it's banned. It's a banned substance. So
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there's that. um as far as it being like a performance
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enhancing or like a lot of people think it's
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a performance inhibiting drug if anything yeah
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i don't know about that i just think it would
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be the funniest thing for him to test positive
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for either way though i think like he just put
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that beating on your thigh so it's like a ryan
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garcia and devin haney and like you can't you
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can't undo it yeah yeah nobody's going to unsee
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You getting your ass beat. Yeah, yeah. They can
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take away the L on your record, but it doesn't
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change anything. Man. When I was competitive
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powerlifting, some of the best workouts that
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I ever had, I had smoked weed before. And they
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were just... I can't explain it. It's... something
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you like if you know you know um not everybody
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knows like weed doesn't affect everybody the
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same way um so hard to say yeah well there was
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there was that snowboarder that got his gold
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medal taken away i'm pretty sure it was a canadian
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um because he was just high as fuck at the olympics
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apparently like he didn't test kind of positive
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he tested very positive yeah yeah and like canada
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has a show jumper that's been banned for life
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twice from international competition uh like
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horse jumping but he's just so good they keep
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getting his bands overturned and he always tests
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positive for cocaine and i'm like just just take
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the cocaine away from him like i don't know how
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that helps him jump a horse but and you would
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have to be like like doing it right before the
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event there's yeah there's no way that no he
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is just definitely addicted like no question
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i've had because i know people will make fun
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of it but those show jumpers make like hundreds
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of millions of dollars doing it and he fucks
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up cocaine so often that they've banned him from
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life and overturned it twice if you're gonna
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get caught with it like you have to do it Within,
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like, 12 hours. I think he was doing rails right
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before he got on his horse. Exactly. That's how
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he's getting caught, is because he is straight
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up, like, busting rails and then gets on the
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horse. Yeah, I think so. That is incredibly fucked
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up. I understand that one. Same with, like, David
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Benavidez. popping for cocaine like come on yeah
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like he was just partying a little too hard before
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the uh the random drug tests happened yeah there
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are worse things that you could do with your
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with your time like beating your wife oh shit
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yeah speaking of which gervonta davis gets arrested
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for domestic violence for what is this again
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for the third time I think the third time. And
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rumor on the street, as in rumors on the internet
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that I have no basis for, but his girlfriend,
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wife, whoever, said he crashed out because he
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thinks his kid is gay and the kid's like one.
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Like, Tank is so far in the closet, it's really
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affecting his life. He needs to just admit it
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and stop worrying about everybody else. Very
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deeply furrowed brow. Very deep shrug. I'm trying
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to narrate the reactions that I'm having to this.
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Like, what the fuck is... I don't even know...
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How do you decide a one -year -old is gay? Anyways,
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I don't know if that's true, but rumor on the
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internet is that's what his significant other,
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the mother of the child, said. Who cares, dude?
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Big, who cares? Who the fuck cares? So what?
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So the fuck what? It's still your kid, man. Of
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all the things that you're going to freak out
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about, I would have thought autism, just because
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you never know if they're going to be functional
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or not. High functioning, I should say. Anyways,
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super fucking weird crash out. Very strange.
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If that's true, if that's true. I mean, domestic
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violence crash outs are always uncalled for.
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Doesn't matter what the situation is. Yeah, regardless
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of whether the kid is gay or autistic or whatever
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the fuck. It's a one -year -old. You can't tell
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either of those things. Man. Anyways, in non
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-controversial news, Inouye versus MJ is in Nagoya
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in September. How's that in relation to you?
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It's one of the bullet trains, so it would be
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a little expensive. But I have not been to Nagoya
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yet, and it is one of the cities I want to visit
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now that I've done the major ones, or most of
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the major ones. But it is a ticket lottery. gross
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so that's bullshit i really don't think i'll
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win the lottery but i did get lucky once buying
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a resale ticket so i'm gonna hold out for that
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and the bullet trains you don't have to it's
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not like an airplane you don't have to book ahead
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of time like the price is just the price so i
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am gonna try and go i think i would like to make
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that kind of like a three days two nights weekend
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thing if i can at work oh yeah go see the sights
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right yeah because i've never been to nagoya
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uh i don't know what all's there but i mean there
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must be something it's a big city yeah i haven't
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been around a lot of japan but i have heard of
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nagoya it's halfway between tokyo and uh kyoto
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so anyways i i would really like to do that i
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also noticed that they put it the day after canelo's
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fight again I wonder if they're hoping for another
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Canelo snoozer because in a way got a lot of
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positive press, more positive press than he would
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have otherwise after he saved that Times Square
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Canelo skull weekend. That weekend was just dog
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shit. And yeah, he fucking saved it. Yeah. And
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like Canelo Crawford might be big. It's big,
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but it might be a good fight. I could see it
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being a snoozer. I've been saying I could see
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it being boring as fuck. It can very well be
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boring as fuck. I see the avenues for it to be
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boring compared to, in a way, MJ fight, which
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just, to me, the avenues are far, far fewer.
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Yeah. And I just kind of feel a little bit like
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Inouye's team or top rank or someone might be
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trying to do the, well, we can get positive press
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if Crawford Canelo ends up being a snoozer. We'll
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get that same positive extra boost. Yeah. Or
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maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist. No, I think
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you're right. I think that they're trying to
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Ben Franklin here. With their key on the kite.
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Yeah. And they're trying to catch it again. Well,
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and like, worst case scenario for them, Crawford
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Canelo is a great fight weekend and people are
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up on boxing and they want to watch Inouye. I
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want more boxing. To keep it going. Yeah, I want
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more. So I think either way, they kind of capitalize.
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But it does suck that they put these big names
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on the same weekend because then it's going to
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be probably a little slow. Although there's lots
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of fights in September, I guess. That's the way
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that you had to put it for the women's card,
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right? Well, and I think I'm right. Like, who's
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left to fight for women in the next six months?
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Mimi. But, I mean, Mimi's not that famous. I
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just like her. Clarissa Shields. Yeah, but her
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fights are usually really one -sided, unfortunately.
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And she's going to have kind of a shit undercard,
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I think. Yeah, she will. So, like, I don't know.
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That women's card was good, though. I know that's
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also next podcast, but I was pleasantly surprised
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by the women's card. That being said, I did not
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watch the main event, which I heard was pretty
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shit. Yeah, that was actually... We were supposed
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to record just before. It started? Yeah. And
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I had something else I had to attend to. So I'll
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have to try to recap as much of that card as
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I can before we get there. But the main event,
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I can say, was... Not great? There have been
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better Taylor Serrano fights. Well, it would
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have been fucking impossible to beat the last
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one, I think. There have been considerably better
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Taylor Serrano fights. Yeah. Man. Shall we get
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into the recamps? Yes. The recent shit. Is this
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up to date? Is that the only recap? It is. And
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I did not update it. Joe Cordina versus Jaret
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Carras. I remember Joe Cordina kind of washing
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it. Man, this is me being very professional.
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This is what happens when we record after big
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cards. Yeah. I know I watched this. I know it
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was a week ago and I have a shit memory. I think
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Cordina kind of won. pretty convincingly didn't
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it was yeah and this was one of those ones that
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was for the wbo global uh yeah this is cordina
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trying to get back into like contention title
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contention yeah it's um it's wbo global versus
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what's the difference between the wbo world i'm
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uh like half face palming For those who are not
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watching. The global is less somehow. Than world.
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Global is less than world. How does that make
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sense? Jack Catterall versus Harlem Eubank. That
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fight was sloppy as shit. That was an ugly fight.
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Yeah. And not fun. Where's Lynn? I need you to
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try to intellectualize this for me. This fight
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was just fucking hot garbage. I did not. But
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Caterall fights are often not fun. Just not fun.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And, because it ended
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in a head clash in the ninth? They went to the
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cards? Seventh. Seventh. Oh, even earlier. Whatever.
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Still, not good. No. Well, and this is the one
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where the doctor from the other corner stopped
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it for Catterall, right? That's right. I didn't
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understand how that happened. Because Eubank
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did not have a bad enough cut to stop the fight.
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The doctor in Catterall's corner said, yeah,
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he can continue. That is the cut that I assume
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stopped the fight. Should have. But then the
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doctor in Eubank's corner, talked to the ref,
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and the ref waved it off. Yes. Like, it didn't
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make sense to me. And it was a bad cut. But usually
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they will let them go one round, see how it looks,
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whatever. We have seen worse. Way worse. Considerably
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worse that has been allowed to continue beyond
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just a round. But, like, goddamn. The one that
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Harlem Eubank had was not... nothing it was like
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i think i've cut my eye that bad got drunk and
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fell into a door and you slice your eye open
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yeah i'm trying to think like i'm checking my
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eyebrows like um i probably have been cut worse
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than that yeah well and this one people tell
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me i'm making it up but people should go back
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and watch round seven i swear to god catterall
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pulled a tank When he got that cut, he ran to
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his corner and they came up to wipe his eye for
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him. And the ref walked over and was like, what
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the fuck are you doing? You can't do this. And
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nobody has mentioned it. I'm like, why are fighters
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doing this? It's ridiculous. I mean, if Tank
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is allowed to do it, then... They have set the
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precedent. Yep. And it's bullshit. Because, yeah.
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It was another case of the corner coming up onto
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the apron and doing more than they should. Well,
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they shouldn't be allowed on the apron at all.
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Yeah, exactly. They're not allowed on. Yeah,
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I don't know. I would not recommend this. If
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you missed this one, just leave it. You did better
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things with your time. Yeah, I don't even care
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if you were asleep. It was better things with
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your time. Better use of your time is to sleep.
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And that being the only recap is fucking atrocious.
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That's all we got. All right, let me... We could
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do the cuts different this time because we have
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the half -year picks, right? Yeah, actually,
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that's a good call. Let's get into that since
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it's only the two of us. Stoppage. We have 10
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categories that we use here at Lux. So without
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further ado, stoppage of the year. What do you
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got? Okay, I think pretty clearly KO of the year
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has to be Brian Norman Jr. versus Jin Sasaki.
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Of course. But I do have an honorable mention
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that I thought was that until Norman Jr. Takei
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versus Tang Di. was a really fast really brutal
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knockout and there was also one on an undercard
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i swear to god it was the very first punch of
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the fight thrown knock the guy out about this
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but i can't remember what fight it was and i
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couldn't find it this is not that but that was
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also an honorable mention but i can't remember
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who it was Long -time listeners with better memories
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will know who I'm talking about. Yeah, if you
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want to go back into the archives, you can probably
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find it. Or just have a memory. Yeah. But anybody
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who remembers, please call in and tell me who
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it was so I can go find the damn thing again.
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833 -589 -7637. I really do think there is only
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one answer to this one. Yeah. We had the same
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outcome on B -Sides, which hasn't... At this
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point, probably hasn't come out yet when you're
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listening to this. But my primary pick, of course,
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Norman over Sasaki. There is nothing else. Yeah,
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there's no other KOs this year. Anywhere close.
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My other stoppage, my honorable mention, just
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to give a secondary pick, was Inoue over Cardenas.
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Just because of how awesome that fight was. Starts
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with a knockdown over Inoue. And he rallies back
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and just, the last few rounds, it's just brutal.
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It's like, we don't need to see anymore. Yeah,
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which is what Inouye does. When he gets knocked
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down, he gets up and just beats people. Yeah,
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he gets fucking mad. All right, Master Class
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of the Year. This is a pillar to post -schooling.
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Doesn't necessarily have to be... include knockdowns
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think Shakur Stevenson more than let's say Subaru
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Matias I really struggled with this one and I
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know I'm missing some obvious ones I kind of
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didn't do my homework and was last minuting this
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trying to think of stuff at the festival last
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night but I really really struggled with Masterclass
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all I have is Tio looked fucking great against
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Barbosa, but Barbosa looks so shit. I don't know
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if that counts. That counts perfectly. That was
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my honorable mention. My primary pick was Benavidez
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over Morel. Okay. I can see that one. It's higher
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weight classes that I don't watch. But Teofimo
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versus Barbosa was my... was one of my picks
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as well. He just... negated barbosa entirely
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that whole fight he didn't do anything his entire
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existence was negated it really was though uh
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villain of the year i'll start here um number
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one canelo signing with riad that uh definitely
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did not tickle my fancy my emeritus pick Whoever
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lets Derek Chisora keep fighting. But my primary
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would be the Davis brothers with their shenanigans.
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Yeah, that's a pretty obvious one. They were
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one of my honorable mentions. So my honorable
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mentions, my first one's going to maybe surprise
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people, maybe not. Junto Nakatani made my villain
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list. I really didn't like how dirty and restly
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he was with Nishida. And he popped out his shoulder
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in one of those weird clinches where he like
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judo through him. I did not like that. Did not
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like that. And I am a huge Nakatani fan and it
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made me angry. So he's the least of my villains,
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but he's a villain this year. My next villain
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is the whole fucking Reynoso gym. Oh, how did
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I forget? Come on, guys. Everybody's fucking
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popping in the Reynoso gym. At least once. Like,
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so that whole gym is my top honorable mention.
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The Davis brothers, I figured everyone else would
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pick. It's obvious. So I didn't even put them
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on the list. my main villain is the fucking Japanese
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Boxing Commission. The JBC is not looking out
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for their fighters at fucking all, and I am so
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pissed off that they let Shigeoka back in the
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ring after a skull fracture. Ten months is not
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enough time to heal from a skull fracture. That's
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like a career ender. And I... I'm 90 % sure that
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they aren't going to make Jin Sasaki take any
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extra time off. They're going to let him back
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in the ring like nothing happened because he's
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passing all of his tests. But if you lose six
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weeks of memory, I don't care if you get them
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back, you need to at least get a soft touch coming
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back. And the JBC... just isn't going to even
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try and enforce anything for him. So they are
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my villain of the year so far. I don't think
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they're looking after their fighters. And as
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much as I absolutely love the wars and the banging
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style, you need somebody to look after the fighters.
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Yeah, somebody has to step in on their behalf
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at some point. If it makes you feel better, the
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Junto Nakatani pick, this is for non -fighting.
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Outside of the ring behaviors. Oh, okay. Well,
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inside the ring behavior, I think Nakatani's
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my villain this year. So far. And I'll forgive
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him after his next fight. After he does his usual.
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Right now, he's on my shit list. For new face
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of the year, I'll start here. I had two pick.
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Three picks. One was my emeritus. But first,
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Ramon Cardenas. Nobody knew who this guy was
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going into the Inouye fight. And he put on a
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fucking show. Absolutely put on a show. I like
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that pick. He rates that. And then my number
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two was Tara Moana. Does he still count as a
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new face? See, I always struggle with this. Yeah.
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Because if we talked about them last year, they're
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not new to me. I know. And that's why I have
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my emeritus pick, which is Tenshin Asakawa. Oh,
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fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck all the way off. Yeah.
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But that's, like, it's, like, same thing. Like,
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I talked about him last year. Probably talked
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about him the year before. Yeah. I should probably
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stop at some point, but I'm probably not going
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to. I struggle with this category because I pick
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like really, really new people. Right. So it's
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not necessarily debutants, but it's like, is
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Abdullah Mason still a new face? Like he's about
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to fight for a title. I don't think so. Yeah.
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So, I just thought of another one, and I want
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to look up his name, but I can't remember. Who's
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the Filipino boxer that I really talked up? That
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was this last year, right? I think so. What's
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his name? What card was he on? So last year he
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fought on the Nakatani card in Osaka, and that's
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where I saw him live. But he's had at least two
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fights this year, I think, and won them both.
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But I cannot remember his name. Oh, so you're
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going to have to cut some of this. No, it's fine.
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So if I go to Nishida and that card in Osaka.
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I should be able to get his name off the list,
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right? Yeah, that should do it for you. Kenneth
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Lover is going on my list. I knew it was a stupid
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name. I remember that name. So Kenneth Lover
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is my honorable mention. I mean, he's still going
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to need a couple years before he... really becomes
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anything but new face style i i still think he
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makes the mention but makito nakano that was
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on the undercard of inoue cardenas and he got
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that stoppage with the five knockdowns yes and
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i believe that was his debut maybe not i gotta
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look that up before i start talking absolute
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shit that sounds about right Not his debut at
28:52
all. But the first time I'd seen him, so he counts
28:55
as a new face. Yeah, that's exactly what new
28:57
face is. It's just somebody who surprises you.
28:59
Yeah. So he is not that new. He's 13 -0 with
29:06
12 KOs. But I had never seen him before. He's
29:09
my new face of the year so far. I thought that
29:12
was a super impressive performance from somebody
29:15
I'd never heard of. And I follow Japanese boxing
29:18
closer than most people. yes uh moving into fighter
29:25
of the year um i'll start i had number two junto
29:33
nakatani and then my villain is your fighter
29:39
of the year well he had a pretty impressive year
29:42
he did i just thought it was funny yeah and then
29:49
uh brian norman was my number one pick because
29:53
he's had two like boss stoppages yeah yeah two
29:57
real good stoppages i forgot to do this one yeah
30:01
um i'm gonna go with who am i gonna go with i'm
30:09
just gonna pick my favorite With favoritism.
30:13
Sutsumi Seiya. Or Seiya Sutsumi, I guess. That's
30:16
Seiya's name in English. He's my fighter of the
30:20
year. Just because. Awesome fighter. I like him.
30:24
Daigo Higa. Yeah. He lined up to fight... What's
30:29
his name? Brain fart. Takei. Next. Yoshiki Takei.
30:35
That's right. I follow him on Instagram and he's
30:39
been... Because he had the surgery and he's having
30:42
time off, he's doing a lot of... Not charity
30:46
work, but kind of charity work. Like, he's going
30:49
to all his favorite stores and doing, like, meet
30:52
and greets and stuff. Oh, okay. Like, guerrilla
30:56
advertising and things. Which has nothing to
30:59
do with fighting. Honestly, I just forgot to
31:01
do this one. But he's my fighter of the year
31:03
because he's my favorite. Let's continue. Ass
31:11
whooping of the year. You had mentioned this
31:14
one was tough for you as well. When did Kim Zoo
31:20
get that ass whooping? Oh, shit. With Mortis
31:24
Olive. Yeah, was that this year? No, that was
31:34
last year. Yeah, that was October of last year.
31:37
Shit. I gotta take that off my list then. My
31:42
first pick was Boots over Stanionis. That was
31:47
a pretty good ass kick in, yeah. Just completely
31:49
beat his ass. And then Andy Cruz versus Hironori
31:54
Nishido was my second pick. um espinoza versus
32:01
vasquez was my pick oh i was trying to come up
32:06
with an honorable mention but i mean that was
32:11
just an ass kicking start to finish absolutely
32:15
vasquez took quite a bit of damage comeback of
32:21
the year i'll start this one um this doesn't
32:26
necessarily have to be Coming back in the middle
32:29
of a fight over, you know, like, something that
32:32
was going difficult for them. My first pick was
32:35
Stephen Fulton over Brandon Figueroa because,
32:38
like, he got the shit beaten out of him by Inouye.
32:42
The shit was not even pretty. Not even close.
32:46
Yeah. And he comes back and puts a fucking schooling
32:49
on Brandon Figueroa. Unbelievable. Makes Inouye
32:54
look all the more better. yeah it really does
32:59
and then jesus ramos was my uh another career
33:04
comeback like he had he'd been uh he got robbed
33:07
by erickson lubin and then he's been like trying
33:10
to piece put the pieces back together and it's
33:14
been uh it's been going well so so i did one
33:20
of each My career comeback of the year, people
33:25
are going to tell me, is a meme pick, and it's
33:27
not. I picked David Allen. The White Rhino has
33:33
made a resurgence. Is he going to win a world
33:38
title? Probably not. But he's back in the news.
33:42
He's going to get a couple big paydays out of
33:45
these, I think. He got big paydays in Saudi against...
33:50
Johnny Fisher. Yeah. For, like, career comeback,
33:54
Dave Allen, I think, has done very well this
33:57
year. That's a really good pick. So far. It is.
34:00
And then in fight pick of the year, Fabio Wardley
34:04
was losing every fucking minute of that fight
34:07
until he suddenly won it. Yeah. Yeah, that's...
34:10
That was a good pick. So, those are my two comebacks.
34:15
I don't have any honorable mentions. I couldn't
34:17
think of any others, but... Who did you have
34:22
for upset of the year? My upset of the year is
34:30
Rolly Romero. Everybody made fun of me for that
34:34
one, but I called it. I mean, when I picked it
34:39
in the pick league, everybody was talking shit,
34:43
saying I was just a hater, that Garcia was going
34:46
to knock him out. No. I was probably one of them.
34:50
You were. Yeah. I did not expect that out of
34:55
Raleigh. That's a really good shot. It was a
34:58
good performance. Yeah. Mine was Roach over Tank.
35:02
Even though he didn't get the nod on the cards,
35:05
like, come on, we all know what we saw. Yeah,
35:09
I had that as my honorable mention, but I wasn't
35:11
sure if we were allowing the contentious draw
35:15
to be counted as an upset. Non -official wins.
35:19
Yeah. Yeah. My second pick for upset of the year
35:23
was me. I paid for Fatal Fury City of the fucking
35:28
Wolves. I paid for that shit. And I was treated.
35:33
You got robbed. And I got robbed. I am upset.
35:38
Very upset that I paid for that shit. Rightfully
35:41
so. Nobody should have paid for that shit. They
35:45
should have given everybody their money back.
35:49
Absolutely dog shit of a card. Even bundling
35:55
them together does not make me feel better. Fatal
36:00
Fury was just fucking hot garbage. And so was
36:04
Canelo Skull. Yeah, that's part of the Fatal
36:08
Fury. The third part of Fatal Fury is Eubank
36:13
versus Ben. Those three cards. Yeah, that was
36:18
a good fight, but... The other two. Yeah, the
36:23
other two. Those are what I mean when I say I'm
36:27
upset about paying for that shit. Yeah. Who do
36:31
you have for hero of the year? Non -boxing. Oh,
36:36
non -boxing. I fucked this up then because I
36:39
put Inouye and Cardenas as the heroes of the
36:42
year for saving that weekend. That dogshit weekend.
36:45
I'll allow it. I will fucking allow it. I can
36:49
come up with a non -boxing hero. You tell me
36:52
yours and I'll think for 10 seconds. Yeah. Because
36:57
of me just saying how much Fatal Fury just...
37:00
God damn it. I'm so upset. I paid for that. Yeah.
37:07
And so for Inoue and Cardenas, yeah. That's hero
37:11
shit right there. I mean, it wasn't just them.
37:14
It was that whole card save the weekend. So then
37:16
it would be Top Rank, right? Yeah, I guess Top
37:20
Rank is my boxing hero of the year. I don't really
37:26
like saying that out loud, but Top Rank has been
37:29
providing good matchups when a lot of the other
37:33
promoters don't. I mean... pro box is good pro
37:37
box always has good fights but they're not big
37:40
fights they're just good fights so that yeah
37:45
that's that's couldn't say it better myself um
37:49
for hero my one of my secondary pick was mizuki
37:54
hiruta mimi uh for her dope ring attire just
37:59
everything yeah she seems so fun she seems like
38:03
a like a fun person to hang out with Yeah. My
38:07
emeritus pick was Provox, because Provox is good.
38:11
Provox is good. They put on the good shit. My
38:15
main pick was Al Heyman. We found out about him
38:19
paying for Pritchard. He was taking care of Pritchard
38:23
Colon's family. Yeah. Medical bills, living expenses.
38:29
He's been taking care of them. Nobody knew. yeah
38:35
and like it's still a great thing to do even
38:38
if everybody knows but when you do it quietly
38:42
it means more it really does yeah that's why
38:46
i picked him as my hero like i i am i favor like
38:51
al hayman over the other promoters but that this
38:56
yeah this isn't uh i don't know this is just
39:00
on a different level of like taking care of your
39:02
guys Yeah. And Pritchard Cullen wasn't even one
39:05
of his guys. He just took care of him for the
39:08
sake of doing it. For the good of the sport.
39:12
Yeah. Yeah. And fight of the year, last pick.
39:19
What do you got? Okay, so I got three. And, of
39:22
course, I'm quite biased always. Everybody likes
39:26
me for my biases, I think. My non -biased. Or
39:31
not because of my bias pick. Eubank versus Ben
39:34
was a banger. I really did enjoy that. As much
39:37
as it's Brit slop, it's a manufactured fight
39:40
that never should have really happened. It was
39:43
fun as fuck and I liked it. I liked the fight
39:47
itself, like all action, the kind of shit that
39:53
I love, very little defense. But this one I even
39:56
liked the build up a little. I really liked it.
39:59
uh eubank senior chris eubank senior is fucking
40:03
hilarious and such a weird cat he's weird and
40:06
yeah and his his coat his i hate my son he's
40:13
disrespecting the sport he's embarrassing me
40:16
and then showing up on fight night with a shit
40:19
-eating grin of oh yeah you guys all believed
40:22
me in his fucking fur coat everything about it
40:26
was great They nailed the handicap, I think,
40:30
on Eubank size -wise. Like, in all honesty, without
40:34
that weight and that rehydration clause, Eubank
40:38
knocks Ben out. Probably. But they weight -drained
40:42
him and dehydrated him just enough to get a banger
40:46
fight. And they fucked him on .05 of a pound.
40:51
Yeah. That is nuts. Yeah, 0 .05 of a pound. 0
40:56
.05, not half a pound. It was half an ounce.
41:00
Yeah. Yeah, fucking crazy. My other honorable
41:05
mention for fight of the year is Taraji versus
41:08
Akui. Not fight of the year because that was
41:12
a bullshit stoppage and they robbed Akui of his
41:17
upset of the year, in my opinion. That's the
41:20
one where they stopped it in the 12th round.
41:22
He was rocked. But he hadn't gone down. He wasn't
41:26
laying on the ropes. And they didn't even give
41:28
him a count. They waived it. It was crazy. Bullshit.
41:32
But the fight up to then was a banger. And for
41:37
me, fight of the year is Tsutsumi versus Higa
41:41
2. The one in February. That was excellent. My
41:45
favorite fighter, my favorite style, they both
41:48
got knocked down. I thought Higa was fucking
41:50
out. He went face first to the canvas and got
41:54
up. Nobody does that. Nobody goes face first
41:58
and gets back up in time for the count. And it
42:02
also has a soft spot because this was the card
42:05
that my brother was visiting. So the first time
42:08
I've gone to a professional fight with my brother,
42:11
his very first card. And yeah, fight of the year
42:15
for me. Oh, he got spoiled. Oh, so spoiled. He
42:18
got spoiled. Yeah, it'll never be matched. But
42:23
in all honesty, he'll probably never go to another
42:26
fight because we live in the middle of nowhere
42:28
and it's just prohibitively expensive. But that's
42:32
my fight of the year. And nobody can say that
42:34
wasn't a banger. They didn't watch it. It ended
42:38
in a draw. It's the only way they could say is
42:40
that they didn't watch it. That's how they could
42:43
say it wasn't banger. My pick, primary pick,
42:48
was B -Volt, Better B of 2. Just had larger implications
42:54
for the sport than... Yeah, if you're counting
42:59
the, like, effect on the sport. Yeah, yeah, for
43:03
sure. Which would have been Tsutsumi Higa, because
43:07
that fight was just excellent. And Isaac Cruz
43:13
versus Angel Fiero, that was another one that
43:17
went under the radar just because it was on a
43:20
bigger card, but it was action -packed from start
43:27
to finish. Yeah, Pitbull's hardly ever in a boring
43:33
fight. I can't think of a single one, really.
43:40
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get into some up. Coming shit. This is looking
50:01
pretty light as well. Yeah, but we did good with
50:04
the mid -year picks. On -topic filler this time
50:11
instead of bullshit filler. Really looking up
50:16
this card, this is all British stuff. Even the
50:23
co -main, Laurence Acoli versus Kevin Lorena.
50:29
I'm going to struggle through this one, but whatever.
50:33
I'll be watching. Yeah, yeah. I honestly don't
50:38
recognize most of the names on the Usyk -Dubois
50:43
undercard. Yeah, because Usyk -Dubois is really
50:47
the only thing that matters. Two -time Undisputed?
50:52
I don't think so. I mean, I know he dropped a
50:58
belt, but Usyk's just undisputed. He never lost
51:01
it, in my mind. I do think this is going to be
51:07
an interesting fight, though. I do think Dubois
51:11
is better than the last time they fought. Yeah,
51:14
that's a good point, is that Dubois is better.
51:17
I don't think Usyk has gotten any worse, even
51:21
though he's aged and stuff. I don't think Usyk
51:23
is worse. But I do think Dubois is better. And
51:28
I don't really know how that's going to play
51:30
out. I mean, it makes sense. So, like, Usyk is
51:37
smaller and all that stuff, but he's always been
51:41
at heavyweight. So it really just is, can Dubois
51:45
adjust enough? In my mind, that's the question.
51:49
Usyk's going to come out and do Usyk things.
51:51
And nobody has figured out how to beat Usyk doing
51:55
Usyk things. But Daniel Dubois gave him a really
52:00
good fight the first time. And Dubois is better.
52:03
So is Dubois going to be the first one to crack
52:05
him? I don't think so. I personally don't think
52:11
so. I still think Usyk's going to get the decision.
52:15
I think that's how it's going to go, but I think
52:19
it's much more up for question than it was the
52:21
first time. That I can agree with, yeah. I'm
52:26
not... I'm a... How do you put it? I'm a Daniel
52:33
Dubois truther. I don't think that was a low
52:36
blow. No, it was not a low blow. I think that
52:40
Usyk got caught with a good body shot. Oh, no,
52:46
sorry. Sorry, I said that backwards. That was
52:48
definitely a low blow. It was below the belt.
52:50
It doesn't fucking matter. It was so close and
52:54
the ref called it. It doesn't matter. Yeah, that's
52:57
what I'm saying. I think the ref made a call.
53:02
It's not a bad call. It's not a bad call. Anyone
53:04
who says it's a bad call is on crack. That is
53:08
a perfectly acceptable in the moment call by
53:11
a referee. In that position, like, we have the
53:15
benefit of all sorts of camera angles. And you're
53:19
also, the people who say it wasn't a low blow
53:22
are going by fucking stills. It's not even slow
53:27
motion that you guys are arguing with. It's stills
53:31
from video. I'm trying to give Dubois the benefit
53:36
of the doubt here. I think... So you think he's
53:41
going to target the body? Is that going to be
53:43
the plan? I think Dubois is going to work the
53:45
body again. I'm hopeful that they did the Andrew
53:49
Gulotta sort of like put trunks on the heavy
53:54
bag so that he knows what's low and what's not.
54:01
That's what I'm thinking. That works so well
54:03
for Gulotta. Well, Dubois is also not a fucking
54:06
moron. Isn't he? I mean, that's a strong statement,
54:12
Leo. In the classical sense. In the classical
54:16
sense, yes, he might be a moron, but no, I think
54:21
he can figure it out. I don't know. I think Usyk
54:26
does Usyk things, and Usyk figures out how to
54:29
win. That's a tough ask. Even if Tyson Fury couldn't
54:33
fucking do it, Anthony Joshua couldn't do it.
54:39
I sincerely doubt, as much as I want to believe
54:42
in him, Deontay Wilder would have never figured
54:45
out these things. No, no. I honestly think Usyk
54:48
might have knocked out Deontay Wilder, even in
54:52
his best. I recall you saying this before. Yeah.
54:55
This is not a new... No, no, this is not a new
54:58
take. No. But that being said, I do think Dubois
55:03
is better, and he gave Usyk a very hard fight
55:06
the first time. And Dubois could be the first
55:09
person to really figure it out. He could be.
55:11
Maybe. But I don't think so. I have faith in
55:15
Usyk, and I just think he's going to do it again.
55:19
Usyk's going to figure out a way to win. He always
55:22
does. And I just don't think Dubois can handle
55:25
the craftiness and the shiftiness of the little
55:27
rabbit, as Fury says. Rabbits are hard to catch,
55:33
man. And if you can't catch it, you can't kill
55:35
it. Isn't that the Rocky with the chickens? Yeah.
55:41
Chase the chicken around because it's hard to
55:43
catch. But like rabbits are even harder. You
55:47
have to set traps. And I don't think Dubois is
55:50
a trap setter. No, I don't think so either. So.
55:57
Let's move on. Matchroom Boxing at The Star in
56:04
Frisco. Are you skipping the... Yes, I am. Okay,
56:08
okay. I'm excited for this main event. Me too.
56:13
Two cards coming up. Arturo Popoca. I recognize
56:21
that name, but Nishant Dev. That's the Indian
56:25
Olympian. I don't watch the Olympics. I don't
56:32
recognize Nishant Dev. Yeah, he's still 2 -0,
56:38
so there's not a whole lot to really recognize
56:40
here. Fighting Omar Rosales at 9 -5? 9 -5 is
56:51
a pretty good step up when you're 2 -0. Yeah,
56:55
no, I just meant, like, it's... A very reasonable
56:59
opponent. Yes. You usually just read both names.
57:07
Good point. Diego Pacheco versus Trevor McCombie.
57:13
This is going to be interesting. Yeah. McCombie
57:19
really impressed me against Plant. And I don't
57:22
know that Diego Pacheco has had a very good test
57:25
yet. It'll be interesting. I can't think of who
57:31
Pacheco's toughest opponent was. Let's... Steven
57:39
Nelson? Who's Steven Nelson? I just don't know
57:44
who it is. He came in with the jean shorts, the
57:48
sagging jean shorts trunks. You remember that?
57:51
I remember the trunks, but I don't remember the
57:55
fight. I don't remember the fight at all. I remember
57:58
the trunks and being angry. It was a tough battle
58:01
for Pacheco. Okay. But do you think that's a
58:06
bigger test than McCombie? No. I think it's a
58:10
comparable test to McCombie. Okay. Like I said,
58:16
McCombie really impressed me against Plant. Yeah.
58:19
I was surprised. So I'm excited for this fight.
58:22
I do think Pacheco's just good, though. But I
58:26
don't think we've seen how good Pacheco is yet.
58:29
Like, I don't think he's had a really hard fight
58:34
where we see what he's really made of. You know
58:39
what I mean? Yeah, yeah. He might be a bit of
58:43
a hype job, and I'm just drinking the Kool -Aid.
58:45
I don't know. If you're drinking the Kool -Aid,
58:48
so am I. I'm thinking that Diego Pacheco is going
58:50
to make better, easier work of this than... Caleb
58:55
Plant did. Yeah. That's a low bar to get over.
59:02
I don't think it's that low a bar. Caleb Plant
59:04
is a very good boxer. He's on the downside of
59:07
his career. But Caleb Plant is a very good boxer.
59:11
And if McCombie put hands on Plant like that,
59:14
you have to be a good boxer to beat him. Is all
59:20
I'm saying. I'm not saying that this means Pacheco...
59:23
obviously beats everybody at the weight or anything.
59:26
I'm just saying if Pacheco can convincingly beat
59:29
McCombie, I think it really... It says a lot.
59:33
...puts him up at that kind of world -class level.
59:36
And he's young. He's only 24. He's still got
59:39
lots of time. So I'm excited for this. I'm excited
59:44
to see how Pacheco handles it because apparently
59:47
McCombie has a bit of power and he's got the
59:50
skills to land it. Sometimes, at least. Like
59:56
I said, Caleb Plant's on the downside of his
59:58
career, I think. But at the height of his career,
1:00:01
people were talking like he was real good. A
1:00:06
Canelo beater, even. And he gave Canelo a hard
1:00:11
fight. I don't know. I'm excited for this one.
1:00:17
I think it's going to show us a little bit more
1:00:19
of what Pacheco's made of. Speaking of being
1:00:25
young and having plenty of time, Austin Williams
1:00:28
has none of that. He's at 29. He's facing Etinosa
1:00:34
Olija. I don't know who that is. I don't either.
1:00:40
I'm expecting this is a soft touch for Austin
1:00:43
Williams. He's from Italy. He's 21 and 9. And
1:00:49
it looks like he's only ever fought in Italy
1:00:51
and Germany. So I don't have very high expectations.
1:00:57
Yeah. This does look like a soft touch for Austin
1:01:02
Williams. Relatively speaking, is this a soft
1:01:07
touch? Jesse Rodriguez versus Pumelele Kafu.
1:01:11
No. Not a soft touch? Kafu, not a soft touch.
1:01:14
Kafu is better than people think. I know nobody
1:01:18
knows who he is, but I watched his fight against
1:01:23
Tanaka, and it was good. He gave him hell. He
1:01:26
gave him hell that fight. Yeah, that was a really
1:01:29
good fight. Everybody should watch that fight,
1:01:32
number one. Number two, I still think Bam wins.
1:01:36
And Bam's not going to get the credit for finally
1:01:40
beating a world -class opponent that isn't over
1:01:45
the hill. This is going to be that fight. This
1:01:48
is going to be the fight where Bam finally beats
1:01:51
somebody in their prime who is that good. A contemporary.
1:01:55
Yeah, Bam's going to get no credit because Kafu's
1:01:59
from South Africa and nobody except the diehards
1:02:02
like me know who he is. But this is going to
1:02:06
be that fight. And if Kafu upsets Bam, I will
1:02:09
be shocked. But I'm not putting it at a zero.
1:02:13
Like, there's like a 15 % chance. Maybe. Yeah.
1:02:17
10 % chance. Like, it's low. But this is going
1:02:21
to be the hardest test Bam's ever had. I'm saying
1:02:25
it right now. Yeah. Like you said, people who
1:02:30
listen to Boxing Before Dark, you've heard of
1:02:33
Kafu, if nothing else, because we mentioned him.
1:02:38
Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be a good... I don't
1:02:42
know if it's going to be his hardest test or
1:02:45
his best test, but it is a test. Well, in my
1:02:50
opinion, Kafu's a harder test than Sonny Edwards.
1:02:53
But people knew who Sonny Edwards was. I think
1:02:58
Kafu beat Sonny Edwards if he had fought him
1:03:01
at the time that Bam fought him. That is interesting.
1:03:10
maybe contentious but i'm just saying i think
1:03:14
i think kafu is at least as hard to test as sunny
1:03:17
edwards yeah i could put it in that category
1:03:22
like everybody thinks right now that bam is just
1:03:25
like a old man old man killer yeah yeah no this
1:03:30
this is good just because you haven't heard of
1:03:34
him you may not have heard of him does not mean
1:03:37
that he's not good His fight with Kosei Tanaka
1:03:40
was impressive. Pumelele Kafu, check him out.
1:03:46
You would do yourself a service to do a little
1:03:51
film study here. Yeah, he's legit fun, exciting,
1:03:55
and skilled. Yeah. But he hadn't fought outside
1:04:00
South Africa before Tanaka, I don't think. And
1:04:05
so nobody knew who he was. But I went and found
1:04:08
some highlights before that. And his opponents
1:04:10
were maybe not so great. But Kafu's the real
1:04:14
deal. Not as real as Bam. Like, Bam's going to
1:04:19
win this. I'm 90 % sure Bam's going to win this.
1:04:24
You're never 100 % in boxing, really. Especially
1:04:28
when you have a sleeper like Kafu. Like, you
1:04:30
don't want to... lean too hard in in the bam
1:04:34
direction which i was thinking like this is like
1:04:39
a 95 yeah no it's it's hard in the bam direction
1:04:44
like i'm not saying it's not but when bam beats
1:04:50
kafu people need to give him his flower yeah
1:04:52
that's a good way to put it that's actually the
1:04:56
perfect way to to cap it off is when bam beats
1:04:59
kafu Give him his flowers, because Kofu's legit.
1:05:03
Yeah. But I see Bam winning, and maybe making
1:05:08
it look easy, because Bam's just that good, and
1:05:11
everybody's gonna be like, he fights old men
1:05:14
and fucking nobodies. Is what everyone's gonna
1:05:18
say. I can hear it already. And anybody who says
1:05:22
that can meet me in a field, and I will fight
1:05:24
your ass. Speaking of Old Man Slayer, In, where
1:05:31
is this at? The MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las
1:05:35
Vegas, Nevada. Mario Barrios. I don't even want
1:05:38
to watch this. Versus Manny Pacquiao. If this
1:05:41
is pay -per -view. It's going to be pay -per
1:05:46
-view. It has to be. I'm definitely paying for
1:05:49
it. I'm definitely going to pay for it. I'm not
1:05:53
going to pay for it. Fuck that. I might because
1:05:58
it's basically free in Japan because it comes
1:06:01
on at like 4 a .m. There are some good fights
1:06:06
though here. Brandon Figueroa versus Joette Gonzalez.
1:06:10
That's a good fight. Joette is unheralded, but
1:06:14
tough. Really tough. I like Joette. I think he
1:06:20
loses, but I do like him. He's going to lose
1:06:21
because he's going to stand and bang. And standing
1:06:26
and fucking trading with Brandon Figueroa was
1:06:28
just like a really bad idea. But he has to stand
1:06:33
and trade because he's giving up three inches
1:06:36
of height and probably three inches of reach,
1:06:39
I assume. Yeah, close. Close to that. So, like,
1:06:44
what's your plan if it's not to get to the inside
1:06:48
and bang? But the problem is Brandon Figueroa
1:06:51
is good at inside fighting. Yeah, pretty much
1:06:54
if your name isn't Stephen Fulton, getting on
1:06:58
the inside of Brandon Figueroa is a really bad
1:07:01
idea. But staying on the outside isn't going
1:07:07
to work for Gonzalez, so what the fuck's he supposed
1:07:10
to do? Yeah, I guess you're going to have to
1:07:12
try to dive in and make it work. I do think it's
1:07:18
going to be fun to watch, though. As much as
1:07:19
we're saying this is going to be a one -sided
1:07:21
beating, I don't think it's going to be uninteresting.
1:07:26
It'll be entertaining. It might be beating of
1:07:33
the latter half. Yeah, I could see the damage
1:07:39
accumulating, but I think it's going to be a
1:07:43
fun fight to watch while it lasts. Speaking of
1:07:47
fun fights to watch, Isaac Cruz versus Angel
1:07:50
Fierro, the rematch. This was one of my shouts,
1:07:53
like we already did, for fight of the year. Yeah,
1:07:59
I'm going to watch this. This will be good. No
1:08:00
chance I'm missing this. As much as we're talking
1:08:04
shit about the main event, this card might be
1:08:07
worth pay -per -view prices. The undercard is
1:08:10
stacked. I might have to retract my really forced
1:08:15
grunt of not paying for this. Because I would
1:08:18
pay for these three fights. Yeah. These three
1:08:21
alone are... Oh, but if they put it at like a
1:08:25
high dollar value here in the US... No, yeah.
1:08:29
Yeah, maybe not like... Maybe not $80 US, but
1:08:33
if it's like $50 US. Yeah, that I can... I can
1:08:37
handle that. Sebastian Fundora versus Tim Zhu,
1:08:42
the rematch. I am so nervous for Tim Zhu. You
1:08:47
don't think he's over it? I don't think he's
1:08:50
over it. I do not think he's over it. I think
1:08:53
he's going to get in the ring with Fundora and
1:08:55
he's going to have Vietnam flashbacks. Did you
1:09:00
watch the little, like, I don't know what they
1:09:03
call them, but it's not a hype video. But the,
1:09:07
like, background video they did for this one?
1:09:10
I haven't seen it. Okay, you should watch it.
1:09:13
Tim Zhu talking about that cut, you can hear
1:09:15
it in his voice still. That it's still bothering
1:09:18
him? It's still bothering him. 100%, it's still
1:09:22
bothering him. Because Zhu was winning that fight
1:09:26
until the cut. Hands down, he was winning that
1:09:29
fight. I know it's only two rounds, but he was
1:09:31
putting a beating on him for those two rounds.
1:09:35
Okay, yeah. And then even right after the cut,
1:09:39
he was still putting a beating on him. But as
1:09:42
the fight went on, it stopped. More and more
1:09:45
blood. Yeah. I swear to God, he must have been
1:09:48
getting lightheaded. He lost so much blood in
1:09:51
that fight. Like, legitimately blood loss, I
1:09:55
think, was... I was thinking the same thing as
1:09:58
they were going into the later rounds. Like,
1:10:00
why are we still doing this? He's lost a pint
1:10:05
and a half of blood. Right. He's a liter low
1:10:09
right now. What do you think about maybe pulling
1:10:12
the plug here? No, I know people are probably
1:10:15
going to be like, oh, you're overreacting and
1:10:18
you're exaggerating and stuff. I think he lost
1:10:20
enough blood that he was probably starting to
1:10:23
get a little light -handed and a little woozy.
1:10:25
That was a lot of blood. That was bad. I don't
1:10:31
know. I'm nervous for Tim Zhu. If he's over it,
1:10:33
I think he outboxes Fundora. I think Tim Zhu,
1:10:36
mentally on point, beats Fundora pretty easily
1:10:42
without any cuts. I don't know if Tim Zhu's mentally
1:10:45
on point. They put out two YouTube episode things.
1:10:51
One was Pacquiao and Barrios. And the other is
1:10:57
Tim Zhu and Fundora. And both are actually pretty
1:11:01
well done. Like, both are worth a watch. But
1:11:03
the Pacquiao one made me sad. Because he's just
1:11:06
an old man trying to not be an old man. But the
1:11:10
Tim Zhu one made me worried. The Fundora one,
1:11:13
I'm like, fuck, I still like Fundora. It's not
1:11:15
that I don't like Fundora. He's a fun character.
1:11:21
He's so dorky and lovable. I don't know how else
1:11:25
to put it. Like, him and his sister are such
1:11:27
geeks. Yeah, that's what I liked about her. No,
1:11:34
but they're very likable. Honest to God, like,
1:11:37
I'm not cheering against anyone here, but I am
1:11:42
cheering for Tim Zhu to be over his PTSD. Fingers
1:11:47
crossed. Even if he loses, but looks like he's
1:11:51
not scared, I'll be happy. Main event. Mario
1:11:58
Barrios vs. Manny Pacquiao. I don't have a lot
1:12:01
of positive things to say about this. I think
1:12:05
this is a huge waste of time. The three fights
1:12:09
before are good, but this... Yeah, this is a
1:12:15
waste of everybody's time. I don't know why they're
1:12:18
doing this. I've said this before. We don't have
1:12:22
to spend very much time on it. But if Pacquiao
1:12:24
wins, what happens to the division? Is he going
1:12:30
to fight Brian Norman? Don't fucking think so.
1:12:33
But Pacquiao's not going to walk away a belt
1:12:36
holder. Pacquiao is going to take another fight.
1:12:41
There is no fucking chance he retires while he's
1:12:44
holding a belt. Yeah, it's just a matter of who's
1:12:48
it going to be. But I don't want to see him fight
1:12:52
any of them. I don't either. Like, this is what
1:12:56
I mean. Like, best case scenario, if Pacquiao
1:12:59
wins, he retires. And the belt is just vacant.
1:13:04
Waste of time for the division. When Barrios
1:13:08
beats Pacquiao, because Pacquiao's fucking 47
1:13:11
and has no speed and his whole style is based
1:13:14
around speed, we're back where we started. Why
1:13:18
are we doing this? throwing my hands up in like
1:13:25
i just i don't get it no idea why why are we
1:13:30
doing this all i want is for pacquiao to lose
1:13:33
and not get hurt badly that's what i want that's
1:13:37
the best we can hope for which puts us exactly
1:13:40
where we are right now in the division with the
1:13:43
belts and everything a huge fucking waste of
1:13:45
time mario barrios is the weakest champion and
1:13:48
he's stalling for time before he has to face
1:13:51
anybody who actually matters well and like getting
1:13:55
big money and everything else i understand why
1:13:58
barrios is doing this and i kind of understand
1:14:03
why pacquiao is doing this as much as i think
1:14:05
it's super stupid but i don't understand why
1:14:09
the commission is letting this happen i don't
1:14:11
know it's money like i guess i understand it's
1:14:16
money but God damn, it's so stupid and unethical
1:14:22
and a waste of time for the sport. And God forbid
1:14:27
Pacquiao actually fucking gets real hurt. Imagine
1:14:30
if Barrios kills Pacquiao. That's not something
1:14:37
to laugh at. No, that's not something to laugh
1:14:39
at. I mean, it is a possibility. It is. And imagine
1:14:43
how bad for boxing that is. Yeah. That's what
1:14:49
I'm laughing at. How fucking terrible. It's...
1:14:52
I don't have words. I don't have words. Heaven
1:14:57
fucking forbid that happens. It would be terrible.
1:15:00
It's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't
1:15:04
want to jinx anything, and if it does happen,
1:15:06
nobody come at me for jinxing it. But I just...
1:15:09
I don't think the risk -reward is enough on this
1:15:12
one. Yeah, they're gonna make a bunch of money.
1:15:16
But the fucking... downside of the bad outcome
1:15:20
is not worth it to me i guess fucking suleiman
1:15:26
doesn't give a shit but barrios just imagine
1:15:30
the press if pacquiao dies in the ring the only
1:15:35
thing my saving grace here and this is just like
1:15:38
a small glimmer of hope is that barrios fucking
1:15:42
sucks barrios does kind of suck and that's everybody's
1:15:47
glimmer of hope like but is it really worth the
1:15:51
risk no to me it's not of course like i don't
1:15:56
i don't who is this this is the wbc yeah the
1:16:00
wbc is the greediest of the fucking organizations
1:16:03
in my opinion they make the most money -centric
1:16:08
risk reward assessments like money weighs more
1:16:12
to them Than it does to a reasonable human being.
1:16:16
For risk reward assessment. I wonder if they're
1:16:19
related to the JBC. The fucking JBC. Is a different
1:16:25
matter. The JBC is. Cultural bullshit. But. Anything
1:16:34
I say now. I'm just going to sound racist. So
1:16:37
I will stop. But the JBC is all about the. We
1:16:41
need to showcase the Japanese warrior spirit.
1:16:46
And who are we to stop people who want to make
1:16:48
bad decisions? You're the fucking commission.
1:16:51
You're the safety commission. It's your fucking
1:16:53
job to stop people from making bad decisions.
1:16:55
You're the one that's supposed to stop people
1:16:57
from making terrible decisions. But... No unnecessary
1:17:05
rants today. Alright. Anything more for the upcoming
1:17:11
cards? No, I don't think so. I am not excited
1:17:15
for Barrio's Pacquiao. Fortunately, the weekend
1:17:19
is good. That undercard is pretty stacked. Yeah,
1:17:21
the weekend is good. All right, let me do this.
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so we're heading into Usyk Dubois, Bam Kafu,
1:18:47
Barrios Pacquiao. Parting words. I am most excited
1:18:51
for Bam Kafu. That is my fight of the weekend.
1:18:58
Yeah, that's my main event of the weekend. For
1:19:01
sure. Fortunately, Usyk and Dubois line up in
1:19:06
such a way that you won't miss Bam Kafu. Anybody
1:19:10
who's in the West, the timing should work out
1:19:16
well. That is lucky. For you, Usyk, Dubois will
1:19:22
be in the middle of the night, and then Bam Kafu
1:19:26
even later, or more further into the morning?
1:19:31
Yeah, I think the so the British cards usually
1:19:35
start at about 4 a .m. So the main events usually
1:19:38
like six, which sometimes I just don't wake up
1:19:42
for them. This one I'll wake up for to watch
1:19:44
live and hang out with people on Discord. But
1:19:46
and then the American main events are usually
1:19:50
like 10 a .m. Not terrible. No, no, that's not
1:19:54
terrible. But if I want to watch the American
1:19:56
undercards, I got to wake up for like seven.
1:20:00
Which sucks on a Saturday. Quite. Alright, let's
1:20:07
leave it there. That's it for this edition of
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Boxing Before Dark. What's the thing? It is getting
1:20:17
dark and my batteries are low. My battery is
1:20:21
getting low. I looked it up. It's a single battery.
1:20:25
It's getting dark and my battery is getting low.