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Rushion talks first-hand about overcoming depression. He discusses his journey to success, shares valuable stock tips, and celebrates his Atlanta Business League 2023 Men of Influence. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 3: I've been on vacation. I've lost all the rules of
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  Speaker 3: on vacation because of the fact that my body was different,
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  Speaker 3: something I used to didn't. I didn't take vacations, man,
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  Speaker 3: worried about getting off that little wheel that somebody's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take my slide or I would lose my advantage. And
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  Speaker 3: not realizing the advantage I was losing was not spending
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  Speaker 3: enough time with my family, not taking care of my body,
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  Speaker 3: the show before and it really dealt into chronic pain,
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  Speaker 3: mental stress, overcoming the odds. His name is Jackson Dunbar.
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  Speaker 3: He triumphed by earning a comfortable living after having lost
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  Speaker 3: it all. Dunbar's committed to creating a new normal life
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  Speaker 3: for himself, deliberately focused on his physical health and stre
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  Speaker 3: continue to earn an income while still in chronic pain,
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  Speaker 3: and without his knowledge, was teaching himself and possibly the world,
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  Speaker 3: a masterclass in survival. In his book, he gives a
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  Speaker 3: first hand account on how he made money, lost Danty palce,
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  Speaker 3: and thrived in chronic pain in the financial and.
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  Speaker 1: Health care worlds.
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  Speaker 3: Please work with the money making conversation masterclass again the
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  Speaker 3: one and only Jackson Dunbar.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing, sir, great? Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 4: having me. And I want to say congratulations on the world.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate appreciate it, you know, because you know I
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  Speaker 3: had to be nominated by it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do the nomination myself. When it was an
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  Speaker 3: email was sent to me, I was surprised, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: taking am back about it in a good way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because when I invite you and I meet people like you,
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  Speaker 3: I'm being educated, Jackson. I'm being confronted with information I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know about. And I'm just going to share something
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  Speaker 3: I was on vacation. I hurt my knee, Jackson, and
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  Speaker 3: right now that's hurt right now, my left kne and
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  Speaker 3: so I continue to walk up the heels, I continue
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  Speaker 3: to do everything with my family, and that ice packed it.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm dealing with a degree of pain as we speak.
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  Speaker 3: But I wanted to get into detail and talk about
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  Speaker 3: the pain that you're dealing with. I would like to
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  Speaker 3: believe you're dealing with it currently.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, yes, I am. I am the chronic pain
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  Speaker 4: patient due to a car accident. I'm chronic paying patient
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  Speaker 4: to someone that's in constant pain over six months. I've
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  Speaker 4: been in constant paine since twenty fifteen, that was when
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  Speaker 4: my accident occurred. And yeah, I just have to deal
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  Speaker 4: with it when you say that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, right now, there's a. You know, I've had pain.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the hospital for thirty days. I lung collapsed,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember, I'll share this story with everybody. I
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  Speaker 3: remember when I went into hospital. It was in an
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  Speaker 3: emergency and the doctor pulled back the curta and he said,
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  Speaker 3: we don't do immediate surgery on you.
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  Speaker 1: You will die.
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  Speaker 3: I can always remember that statement. And he said that
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  Speaker 3: because my lung had collapsed so much that I you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know it's interesting how you're long when you when
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  Speaker 3: it collapsed, it becomes the size of a quarter. That's
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  Speaker 3: how That's how big it was when it collapsed. And
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  Speaker 3: then and they had to so they had to do
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  Speaker 3: surgery on me by making an incision or right above
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  Speaker 3: my or along my small rib cage to insert a
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  Speaker 3: tube or guess what. They couldn't deaden anything. I had
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  Speaker 3: to feel the incision. I had to feel the two
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  Speaker 3: being inserted in me and deal with the pain. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember, Jackson, it was just it was a moment
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  Speaker 3: where you just had to deal with it. Otherwise the
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  Speaker 3: results wouldn't have came out that would allow me to
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  Speaker 3: talk today. How did you because that was just an incident,
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  Speaker 3: but you're dealing with it twenty four hours a day.
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  Speaker 4: How I think the hard part, and this took a
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  Speaker 4: few years for me, was I was focused on what
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  Speaker 4: I lost. I think the summer before the accident, I
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  Speaker 4: ran the peach tree. I ran the peach tree with
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  Speaker 4: my wife. You know, I used to bike around Thrown
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  Speaker 4: Mountain all the time with my son. So I think
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  Speaker 4: the first three years of this I focused on that,
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  Speaker 4: And then what happened. I started. I met a minister
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  Speaker 4: and she told me, hey, why don't you start focusing
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  Speaker 4: on the things you can do? And then and suggested
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  Speaker 4: I get therapy, on which I did. I got to say,
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  Speaker 4: if you're chronic, paying patient and you don't have a
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  Speaker 4: good mental health team that can help you focus on
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  Speaker 4: those things that can keep your focus and moving forward, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're missing a great piece of something that's going to
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  Speaker 4: make you healthy long term. So after after I got
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  Speaker 4: the tools in order to figure out how to focus
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  Speaker 4: on what I could do, what I could do for myself,
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  Speaker 4: what I could do for my family, what I could
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  Speaker 4: do for my community. Then it became like any other
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  Speaker 4: problem I was solving business. I myself. I have always
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  Speaker 4: been told I'm I create a problem solver, problem became Hey,
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  Speaker 4: How do I make How do I make money even
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  Speaker 4: though I can't leave my house? How do I lose
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  Speaker 4: weight even though I'm on pain meds that make me
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  Speaker 4: gain weight? How do I thrive in crime pain even
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  Speaker 4: though I'm on mids that make me suicidal? How do
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  Speaker 4: I deal with the racism that singdemic and pain menacing treatment?
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  Speaker 4: As a middle age black man who often yeah, even
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  Speaker 4: though eighty percent of the people that die from opiate
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  Speaker 4: overdoses are white men and women between the ages of
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  Speaker 4: twenty five and thirty two, I'm stereotyped often when I
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  Speaker 4: go in order to get my medications histor reason I
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  Speaker 4: my book Race Matters and Pay Medicine, How I made money,
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  Speaker 4: Lost ninety pounds and driving fame.
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  Speaker 3: It was interesting because a lot of sickle cell patients
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  Speaker 3: get stereotype as drug users when they come in and
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  Speaker 3: try to seek drug medication because they know what they're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to get and they know they know why they
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  Speaker 3: should be getting it, and people will call them or
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  Speaker 3: accuse them being drug users. So that a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it is due to the fact because they are people
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  Speaker 3: of color, they are offering the minority community and people
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  Speaker 3: are stereotyping them. So I would have to say that
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  Speaker 3: you oftentime was a victim of stereotyping.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, even despite the numbers that most of the
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  Speaker 4: people who are dying from this do not look like us.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it was something you put out there that I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to bring back because in twenty twenty, during COVID,
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  Speaker 3: therapy became a rise in the Black community, you know,
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  Speaker 3: became a normal part of the conversation, the mental health conversation.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of famous people started confessing their issues, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of athletes started confessing their issues with mental health,
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  Speaker 3: and they COVID really sent people over the edge. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of relationships were lost during the COVID period due
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  Speaker 3: to mental strain. Now you said the word therapy. Now
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  Speaker 3: with that a word, did you could share publicly with
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  Speaker 3: your friends, with your people that you cared about as
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  Speaker 3: strangers without being looked upon as a person with a problem.
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  Speaker 4: You know what my favorite chapter in this book is
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  Speaker 4: real Black men don't do therapy. And what's funny about
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  Speaker 4: that is that I only well met Atlanta. We're a
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  Speaker 4: group of African American child and adolescent psychiatrists that work
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  Speaker 4: in the Greater Atlanta area. So I'm surrounded by a
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  Speaker 4: psychiatrists and for whatever and they were telling me, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 4: something's off with you. I think you need therapy, and
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  Speaker 4: I just wasn't hearing it. And it wasn't until what
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  Speaker 4: what happened. I was taking my daughter to the hair store.
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  Speaker 4: Sally's right, yeah, closed the door on my face. I
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  Speaker 4: started yelling at him. He called me an old man,
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  Speaker 4: that this old man can kick your butt. And my
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  Speaker 4: daughter was afraid of me.
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  Speaker 3: And he little jackson that you talk about, the old
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  Speaker 3: man could kick your butt.
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  Speaker 1: That was you.
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  Speaker 4: And I was in a scooter saying this. I can
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  Speaker 4: imagine that I was in a scooter telling some twenty
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  Speaker 4: year old pump okay that could beat him down. And
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  Speaker 4: I had my nine year old daughter there right right,
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  Speaker 4: and she looked at me like I was crazy. And
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  Speaker 4: I came home. I told my wife, Hey, you know
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  Speaker 4: what or right, Adam minimal all the work that I
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  Speaker 4: put into at that time. I put a lot of
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  Speaker 4: work into my diet, dropping weight in order to manage
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  Speaker 4: the pain, had to put any work into my into
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  Speaker 4: my mind. So she helped me find a therapist that
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  Speaker 4: focused in chronic pain and the psychiatrist that did as well.
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  Speaker 4: And the psychiatrist wasn't my saving grace because what she
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  Speaker 4: was able to do was lay out all my meds.
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  Speaker 4: At this time, the pain doctor was giving me meds,
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  Speaker 4: the PCP was giving me meds, the urologists was getting
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  Speaker 4: I was getting meds from everybody, but there was no
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  Speaker 4: one serving as as a quarterback, you know, to basically say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: these meds should go here, these meds shouldn't be here.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever psychiatrists did all that, she was like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 4: is what's making you crazy, it's making me gang weight. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So basically she got rid of some things, aded some mothers,
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  Speaker 4: and then finally think right and be myself again. It
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  Speaker 4: was it was almost as hey, the person that I
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  Speaker 4: was was gone for years and finally I could think
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  Speaker 4: the way the way I normally did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of people who deal with I
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  Speaker 3: get there. I hear this bipolar illnesses complain about the meds.
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  Speaker 3: They they they often the time they will drop off
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  Speaker 3: of them.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I recently interviewed Will.
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  Speaker 3: Downing and his daughter was bipolar and she committed suicide
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  Speaker 3: January of this year. And so because of the fact
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  Speaker 3: that she got off of meds and because of that
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  Speaker 3: uncomfiden zone, she went into isolation, and of course isolation.
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  Speaker 3: So recently I say that we're about to we're going
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  Speaker 3: to go to a break, but when I come back,
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about your support groups that got
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  Speaker 3: you through it because of the fact that when you
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  Speaker 3: came back home after that incident, that your daughter, so
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  Speaker 3: you spoke to your wife and that was an important
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  Speaker 3: conversation because that led you to.
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  Speaker 1: The better life that you lived today.
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  Speaker 3: literacy later on this show, but more importantly How I
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  Speaker 3: Made money his chapters How I Made money, lost ninety
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  Speaker 3: pounds and thrived in chronic pain.
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  Speaker 3: men who avoid I've told people many times I probably
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  Speaker 3: have dealt with depression many times in my life and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: didn't even know it. I just dealt with it. And
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to do that. You don't have to
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  Speaker 3: deal with something by yourself. You don't have to be
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: a shame that something that's happening in your life that's
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: making you uncomfortable. And that's what this show really is about.
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  Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. It's a journey into your spirit,
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  Speaker 3: into your soul with information and hopefully these interviews will
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  Speaker 3: motivate you to be honest with yourself, will be motivated,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: will motivate you to share your understanding that you can
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  Speaker 3: make a difference in life. That's all I do. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: get up every day trying to make a difference. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I feel that my interview that I've had for the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: second time with Jackson Dunbar, because he impacted a lot
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: of people the last time he was on the show
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  Speaker 3: and bringing him back on the show really is kind
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  Speaker 3: of like defining his purpose. His purpose is to let
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: people hear his story and motivate them to be winners.
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  Speaker 3: Am I correct Jackson?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me back?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'll be honest with you. You know a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: lot of people came to including one of my producers,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: was recommending that I bring you back and said, Rashan,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: we should really look at developing a show especially around
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  Speaker 3: men and mental health men in therapy men and you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: within the black community, we are you know, we you know,
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  Speaker 3: last high, first fire, last to get the information on
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  Speaker 3: the financial end, last to get information on therapy, scept
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  Speaker 3: the responsibility deny the gay community within our household, deny
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: there's age in our household. We're such an in denial
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: community that we're in the end, we are only hurting
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  Speaker 3: ourselves by being misinformed about what we can do. And
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  Speaker 3: when you were I had a book like this, which I
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: feel is a very, very a purposeful book. How I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Made Money, you know is one of those chapters in
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: your book. What problem do you select investing as a
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  Speaker 3: money maker?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think what I did, and I think any
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: chronic pain patient in my position should do this as well.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Come to the reality that you are limited in what
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  Speaker 4: you can do. Right. If you're lucky with the payments,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you may have a few hours of lucidity at best.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: So the question is what's the best way to make
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  Speaker 4: money the biggest bang for the book in that short
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: amount of time. And for me, it was investing. Let's see,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: because of because I have a lot of great in
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: the NBA, I spent a lot of time crunching numbers
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: and analyzing trends in my career, so I thought, hey,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: why why can't I use that for the stock market.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So essentially what I did was I said, hey, how
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: much money could I afford to lose on a trip
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: to Vegas. I'm talking hotel, airfare, gambling, whatnot. I'll without
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: losing any sleep. So I took those funds and I
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: started investing. I think, so you're.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Saying, maybe just give us a number of day. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: don't know how what's your trip to Vegas? Are you
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: on softwares or your first class of Delta?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Do you roll with a do you roll with an
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  Speaker 1: off trip motel? Or you on the strip?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: You know in Caesar, please please let us know what
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: is your version of a Vegas trip Jackson?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So hey, I'm way too over Southwest. I'm blind.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I'm staying at Seasons.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: When I get there, there you go, there you go,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: there you go. Okay, So so let's say five to
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  Speaker 4: ten grand.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You working there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, so five to ten grand. And at the
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: time when I started, interest rates were zero, so everybody
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: was making money, right, so I figured, hey, I had
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: more credentials than my financial planner. Why not give it
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: a shot. First month I turned that I what tripled
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  Speaker 4: that money?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Now now now when you say that, now you gotta
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: slow it down my team, because that's when they get
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: into this money made conversations massacre. How did you triple
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: your money? Was it crypto? Because that was a big
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that was kind of like the raise here crypto money
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: get flipped real quick, bigcoin? Did you what? What made
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you make decisions on? Will you tech? Where were you
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: at with your money?
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  Speaker 4: Okay? Where was I at? Neo? I made most of
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that money on Neo, and and I did get on
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I did get on Bigcoin at four thousand. So TOCI
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: by accident to this day. If I had put that
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: money on at Barium, yeah, life, that would have been
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: life changing. But bigcoin is one of those things is
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that you get on at a low but she had
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a little cost. Bashes. Leave it alone. You'll come back
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: a year and bam, there's all this money. That was
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: what happened to me there at the At the same time, anything.
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  Speaker 1: Stop, Jackson.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: You're hurting my feelings over here. Bam, all that money.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: It's some people out there, they're by ready to commit suicide.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Listen to this call. I'm telling you we're not trying
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: to put people in the stress lane when you can't
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: say bam, all that money, that that that hurts my feeling.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, jack That hurts my feeling.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You know what's funny, Okay, When I started investing, within
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: a month, I went from my wife leaving the house.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I'm on the sofa in pain. You know how your
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: wife can look at you if you're not working, She's
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: got to.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Go to work right right, right, right right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: My wife understands the ID, but still it's like, why
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: is this guy on the couch and I gotta go out.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I went from that in a month too. Baby, You've
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: had this skill set our whole life and you never
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: once thought about using it.
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  Speaker 8: And hey, Jackson, Jackson, you're fine, she said, Baby like that, baby, baby, yes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, And thirty days I couldn't believe it. Transformation.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: She went from cutting to evili You rolled around in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the wheelchair. The baby you got the skill set. I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: didn't know you had. Come over here, come over here,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: let let's talk. But that, but that skill set.
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  Speaker 3: You know, God is good in a lot of ways
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  Speaker 3: because of the fact that you took advantage of You
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: could have sat in the corner and complained, took your drugs,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: not do therapy, and embarrass your daughter every year on
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: her birthday because you mad at the life because you
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: felt sorry for yourself. You know, because of the fact
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that you know, right now my knee hurt, but it's
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: not in chronic pain. Because right now, when I get up,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel the pain because my knee is at
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: an angle and I start to walk. I'm a feeling.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: But you know, I tend to want to get a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: clearer understanding. If you could help me and my listeners,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: what is a day in the life of a person
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: who's in criminal pain from when they get up or
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: what they try to sleep.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: What is that and how does that feel? And how
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: do you how do you do? What's that day to day?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Out our experience?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, well it starts out with you wake up, Okay,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: how do I get out of bed and at least
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: the amount of pain? Then you go to okay, how
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: do I do number one or number two and at
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: least the amount of pain? Then then it's okay. You
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: have to remember your meade. And I've been taking the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: same mass for years. She had forever reason that time
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: of the day, I always forget. It's always harry to
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: remember which meant the team, because I got some for
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: the morning, some for the afternoon, and then some at night.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: It takes about an hour and kind of groggy from
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: my morning managed to kick in. Typically I'm on I'm
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: on my recliner and I'm sort of in between let's see,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, dam, I'm lucid, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I'm that way for the next few hours. That's when
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: that's when I'm treating. I'm looking at crypto, I'm looking
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: at crypto based box, I'm looking at it here Karon
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Hunter had me on her show back in April. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: told her, Ribbean, is she I hope she listened to me,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Because she did, she would have more than she would
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: have almost tripled her money. I think it was straightening
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: her by nine dollars to share again. I think it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: somewhere around twenty five twenty six now. So I so
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I look at the trends and then I tell everyone, hey, hey, listen,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: if you want to trade, find find other people who
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: like the trade as well, because what ends up happening
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: is that all former community and I might be a
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: car guy, you might be a commodities guy. You may
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: have them on up. That's a crypto guy. Anyway, we're
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: all looking at different aspects of the market, and you
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: may find something that I don't know about that makes money,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: and vice versa. So we have a meeting, we discuss
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: all of that, and then I go about the business
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: of making some money. Afterwards, the meds were off, the
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: pain becomes sharp. I wait until about four or so
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: to take my afternoon meds. Then the pain is really bad.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I will hopefully make it to the pool swim stretch,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: and then by around eight nine o'clock I'm just on
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: the floor waiting to take the afternoon edge that will
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: put me to sleep, maybe around midnight, and then I
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: do it all over again. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank you for sharing that that story.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: That's an honest story, and I want you to stick around.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And I want to get back to the financial investing
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: because we only tip of the ice careaer. I want
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the people understand your value. And also you're in the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: healthcare field as well, correct Jackson.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, psychiatry child i'le and adult psychiatry.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: We want to talk about that a little bit. But
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: more importantly, I just wanted to talk to my audience
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: for a minute about not only fiscal responsibility but mental responsibility. Well,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I look at my life, you know, it was really interesting, Jackson.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I will start thinking about what I didn't do in
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: my life. You know, that's a that's a that's a place, man,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: where you can wallow and pity. And if I had
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: done this, this could happen. If I'd done this, this
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: could happen if I'd have went over here, if I wouldn't,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: And we can never get into that point in our
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: lives and regret what we've done. We should only focus
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: on what we can do and plan a better life,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: not only for yourself but for your family. And that
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: was one of the primary reasons Jackson, I wanted to
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: bring you back on the show because I felt our
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: interview was fantastic, but I really wanted people hear the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: sacrifices that your family makes due to this accident related
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: injury that came into your life. You didn't plan on
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: living a life of chronic paining. Like you said, you
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: was bike riding, he was done the Peach Tree five
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: k race, and so you was active. But you did
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: not let a negative win in your life. And that's
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: important and that's part of your motivation now I would
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: assume correct.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And when you cat I call it the
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: dark and the light side of the force. Okay, standing
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: on that dark side, only focus on the things you
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: can't No, nothing but misery over there. When you make
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: your life one hundred about what can I do to
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: maximize my life in the three or four hours I
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: have a day, You'll be You'll be shocked at just
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: what your mind comes up with. And you have time
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to be us around or any of this other stuff
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you got to get you to get the business and
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: that's how and that's how I focus myself.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Remember this, if you planning a vacation, think about it twice.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You might want to invest.
• 30:40
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• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Rashaan McDonald and my may I'm calling my co host today,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Jackson Dunball.
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