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Brand Building: Her firm helps individuals and organizations unlock potential, elevate performance, and lead with purpose, specializing in STEM leadership. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a small business owner, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, or
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  Speaker 2: get started. My guest is the founder of No Sealing Consulting.
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  Speaker 2: They have individuals and organizations unlike potential, elevate performers and
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  Speaker 2: lead with purpose. As a startup consultancy, they specialize in
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  Speaker 2: STEM leadership, diversity and inclusion and strategy, professional development and
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  Speaker 2: Bamma DELI for Nried.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing i'mna say it a couple of times because
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  Speaker 2: you don't have the practice in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Bummade beautiful name.
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  Speaker 3: Where you originally from Nigeria?
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  Speaker 1: Nigeria? And what got you over to America?
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  Speaker 4: Well, see what do you call when parents are looking
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  Speaker 4: for a better future for the children. So are the younger,
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  Speaker 4: very young age. I migrated with my family, my parents
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  Speaker 4: to United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 1: Now hear a.
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  Speaker 2: Little English by way of Nigeria about hearing right or wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keep it a secret. I need that accent.
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  Speaker 3: I'm no, I'm not letting it out.
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  Speaker 1: Now. STEM. STEM is my degree in mathematics. Let me
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  Speaker 1: just let you know.
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  Speaker 2: So when we start talking to STEM and he's close
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  Speaker 2: to home with me, talk about your your background in
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  Speaker 2: STEM and before we get into your your agency, your
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  Speaker 2: consulting agency.
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  Speaker 4: So my background is STAM. I'm a biomedical scientist. So
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  Speaker 4: I studied biomedical science degree and I mean the pathology
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  Speaker 4: and diagnostics. So if I was to break it down
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  Speaker 4: my background, I work behind the scenes in the hospital
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  Speaker 4: labs to test patient samples, helping doctors to treat our patients.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're in the world of AI. People are afraid
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  Speaker 2: of AI. Do you have these people over here going
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  Speaker 2: man AI is the they ain't the beat now in
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  Speaker 2: your in the STEM world, it's a technical world where
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  Speaker 2: AI lives in breeds talked about the AI components are
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  Speaker 2: components that we'll be able to uplift STEM professions but
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  Speaker 2: also now them in different directions.
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  Speaker 4: Fair enough, that's a very good topic area to actually
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  Speaker 4: speak on because I remember very a few years ago
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  Speaker 4: when I started out, we were having this conversation that
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  Speaker 4: automation is going to take our jobs in the lab.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a right conversation because we're like, once
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  Speaker 4: everything is automated, well we're going to be doing a
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  Speaker 4: scientist in the lab.
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  Speaker 3: But automation help. I'll give you a scenario.
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  Speaker 4: So without automation, when we used to do the manual methods,
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  Speaker 4: it takes us weeks sometimes like months to get results.
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  Speaker 4: And imagine working in a very large hospital where you
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  Speaker 4: need results in a timely manner, where you have like
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  Speaker 4: thousands of patients that you're testing on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot, you know, do that on a manual method.
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  Speaker 4: So automation makes life easier. So that is where AI
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  Speaker 4: is to some extent, is coming in for us in
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  Speaker 4: the automation of the work process that we do, which
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  Speaker 4: means we get faster results, we're able to get to
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  Speaker 4: our patients in a timely manner, and we're able to
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  Speaker 4: present prevent infections.
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  Speaker 3: As you would call.
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  Speaker 2: It, right, I would tell you that I can respond
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  Speaker 2: to that BAMA daily. For instance, my blood tests, I
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  Speaker 2: go in and I'm with Emory, We're based in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: and they go to the lab testing and I get
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  Speaker 2: those results back in hours yep, I mean with accurate details.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be going like wow, and the word wow comes
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  Speaker 2: out of my mouth. I go wow, this is quick turnaround.
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  Speaker 2: And so is that an hour related concept that's being implemented.
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  Speaker 3: In the BO You could say that.
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  Speaker 4: You can say that because automation you're programming is programming, right,
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  Speaker 4: So you tell a machine what you wanted to do,
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  Speaker 4: so it's based on data what you've been doing. So
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  Speaker 4: it's based on evidence what we've done manually, and then
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  Speaker 4: you're automating it. You're making you're making it like a
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  Speaker 4: bigger how I would you say scaling? That is the word.
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  Speaker 4: So you could potentially say AI. But if you're thinking
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  Speaker 4: about outside of the lab, going into leadership, talking about
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  Speaker 4: generative AI. Now where a lot of people are utilizing
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  Speaker 4: and some people are still you know, resistant to it
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  Speaker 4: because they're like, what is the point We've been doing
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  Speaker 4: really good with doubt it.
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  Speaker 3: But if you think about it, it's making you work smarter.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, what you would have done that would have taken you,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know hours or days to do.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing it within minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And I think that's important because for my real
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  Speaker 2: you know, as you get older, you want you do
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  Speaker 2: want the new lot fast. Okay, absolutely, you know days
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  Speaker 2: mean something to you, okay, and plus when when you're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with uncertainty and so.
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  Speaker 1: But something you said about.
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  Speaker 2: AI, there's AI also can create new jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to me.
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  Speaker 4: They can certainly create new jobs. And that is why
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  Speaker 4: you got to get on with it. You go to
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  Speaker 4: that's what we call about professional development. You have to
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  Speaker 4: be in it in the sense of you're thinking, AI
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  Speaker 4: is taking my job. No, how can I leverage so
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  Speaker 4: that I'm not left out? That is the way it is.
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  Speaker 4: If you're thinking about our job project management. Now everything
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  Speaker 4: is AI like talk from coding, talk from you know, architecture,
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  Speaker 4: name it, everything that has been done. So you need
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  Speaker 4: to be best positioned to like you take certification, take whatever,
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  Speaker 4: just off scale to make sure that you're not left behind.
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  Speaker 4: So what they say is AI is not taking your jobs,
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  Speaker 4: but those that was in order AI will be left behind.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my guess is the founder of No Ceiling Consulting.
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  Speaker 2: They have organizations and individuals unlocked potential, elevate performance and
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  Speaker 2: lead with purpose. Now let's talk about unlocking potential. What
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  Speaker 2: do you mean when you say that?
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  Speaker 4: When I say unlocking potential? A lot of us we
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  Speaker 4: have so much in us, but you're thinking where.
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  Speaker 3: Do I start?
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  Speaker 4: You like, I'll give an example, whether you've reached a
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  Speaker 4: place in your career when you're like, what's next. You've
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  Speaker 4: got all the certification, you've got the expertise, you've got
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  Speaker 4: the skills set, and you're like, well, I'm not moving forward,
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  Speaker 4: So how do you unlock your potential? That is where
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  Speaker 4: you come to do what we call reflection. Then you
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  Speaker 4: think what am I good in? What can I do?
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  Speaker 4: So you're helping it's more or less like you put it,
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  Speaker 4: like coaching, where you're letting people to see what their
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  Speaker 4: strengths out. You know, what's the vision? Was it aspiration?
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  Speaker 4: Then you're teasing it out because mainly they have the skills,
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  Speaker 4: but they don't know how to position themselves to get
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  Speaker 4: the opportunities. And so that is what this is what
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  Speaker 4: we do at No Ceiling consulting, helping individuals, helping organizations,
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  Speaker 4: helping communities. And the way it started off is like
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  Speaker 4: for example, mentorship. So we have wont to want to
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  Speaker 4: understand what their issues are. Where is the stumping block,
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  Speaker 4: where is the issue? How can we help? Is it
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  Speaker 4: leveraging your skills? Is it like you need to obscure
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  Speaker 4: what it is the issue? So what I call it
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  Speaker 4: is the root course because if you don't know the
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  Speaker 4: root course of why somebody may feel like stagnated, for example,
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  Speaker 4: you don't know how to actually help them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's important that you understand the process because let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about moving over to you know that ceiling. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, my degrees are mad that work for
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  Speaker 2: IBM for two and a half you undergraduate and two
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  Speaker 2: and a half professional and it's a competition. And sometimes
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  Speaker 2: the color of your skin can also make you feel
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  Speaker 2: there is a ceiling out there. But you do see
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  Speaker 2: people despite the color of the skin achieve high level.
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  Speaker 1: Of success as an entrepreneurs in the corporate environment. What
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  Speaker 1: ceiling are you talking about? Probatary?
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  Speaker 4: Oh boy, should we start. There's a lot of ceilings,
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  Speaker 4: some are personal, some are professional.
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  Speaker 1: So much talk about the personal one first.
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  Speaker 4: The personal, Yes, the personal I feel is more internal
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  Speaker 4: like way we have. The mind is the mind because
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  Speaker 4: despart having all the how you say, how well equipped
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  Speaker 4: you are, You've got the credentials, you've got the result,
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  Speaker 4: evidence to show, but you're still thinking I'm not enough.
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  Speaker 4: That's a personal ceiling because you're thinking to yourself, I
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  Speaker 4: can't do it. Whereas you have there's some things internally
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  Speaker 4: that is letting you know that. It's because you've got
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  Speaker 4: to show up more, You've got to prove something. And
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  Speaker 4: there's a reason why that may be the case. You
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  Speaker 4: mentioned about biases, you mentioned about systemic barriers, you know
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  Speaker 4: that could potentially lead to one having that you know,
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  Speaker 4: that ceiling mindset as a you know individually it's because
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  Speaker 4: of things that has happened. For example, maybe somebody looking
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  Speaker 4: for promotion and they keep hitting the world, hitting the world,
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  Speaker 4: if eventually they will feel like maybe it's not for me,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I'm not doing the right thing, And that is
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  Speaker 4: where mentorship comes in.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and so now let's talk about professional you know,
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  Speaker 2: because like I said, you can be work under the job,
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  Speaker 2: get hired, but you may not feel that you can
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  Speaker 2: be given the opportunity to achieve the ultimate levels of
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  Speaker 2: opportunities at that company.
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  Speaker 1: That's professional, correct.
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  Speaker 3: It is talk to us.
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  Speaker 4: The professional one is a very is one that is
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  Speaker 4: very dear to my heart because I think at one
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  Speaker 4: point in our professional life we've all hit that ceiling.
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  Speaker 4: Yes we have, we have where you feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: ready for the next level. But I think one of
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  Speaker 4: the things that restrict us or stagnate us when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to professional development is access. You may have access,
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  Speaker 4: but you don't have access to access. So let me
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  Speaker 4: explain that there's there's resources are available to you, but
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  Speaker 4: accessing that that resources is another thing. And there are
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  Speaker 4: many things that is our play when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: you being able to you know, access the resources that
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  Speaker 4: is available to you. So when it comes to professional
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  Speaker 4: you know ceilings, there's so many things. Then we talk
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  Speaker 4: about when you're being overlooked for promotion, where opportunities are
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  Speaker 4: there and they're like you're not already, tells.
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  Speaker 3: You I'm not ready.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the reason why I'm here. I'm ready, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to progress, but you have these systemic barriers in place,
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  Speaker 4: which you know, we can't go into too much details
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just stops you.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're there, you know, like I said, whether you do,
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  Speaker 2: whether you feel they are real or not, it does
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  Speaker 2: go back to personal, you know, in some ways because
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that it's gonna let me know, how
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  Speaker 2: are you with the challenge, how or what effort? Because
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  Speaker 2: I work did that be in Okay, And when I
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  Speaker 2: got there, I would just share this quick store. And
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  Speaker 2: I was hired with two other white dudes. And when
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  Speaker 2: I went into the office with my supervisor, he asked
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  Speaker 2: me what I wanted to do, and I told him
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  Speaker 2: I get back with him. In the meantime, the two
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  Speaker 2: other white guys who hired me, they were just moving
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  Speaker 2: and doing things I was not doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just circling with my other black co workers.
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  Speaker 2: Complaining around the water cooler, talking instigate, this ain't right,
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  Speaker 2: this ain't right. Finally I went in and talked to
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  Speaker 2: my supervisor and I said, in a very professional manner,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't hostile.
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  Speaker 1: I always say.
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  Speaker 2: Something doesn't seem right. They seemed to be getting opportunities
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  Speaker 2: that I'm not getting. He said, well, Resha, He pulled
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  Speaker 2: out my file and he said, I asked you what
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to do at IBM, and you told me
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna get back with me. Well, you have yet
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  Speaker 2: to come back in here, other than right now to
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  Speaker 2: complain about what they're doing, but not what you could
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  Speaker 2: be doing. When I told them what I wanted to do,
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  Speaker 2: my opportunities started happening. Now that's just one side of
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  Speaker 2: the story. But eventually I realized that I be it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't for me, and I resigned, not because it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a great place, it wasn't for me. Again, that's a
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  Speaker 2: ceiling that I had for me personally. The other ceiling
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  Speaker 2: was that I went in there with no plan, and
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  Speaker 2: there has to be a plan in anything you're doing life, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't understand that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care if you work in a Chick fil A, I
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  Speaker 2: don't care if you're working as a as a mechanic.
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  Speaker 1: What is your plan other than getting a check? Talk
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you actually touched on that story because
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  Speaker 4: that it resonates. It resonates because I remember my first
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  Speaker 4: approach when I said I wanted to be a mentor.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about mentorship or you know the
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  Speaker 4: definition of it. But I decided I wasn't going to complain.
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  Speaker 4: I could easily have complained, and the reason was because
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  Speaker 4: I saw a gap. Remember as a saying that says,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to see a change, you start, you
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  Speaker 4: be the change. You be the change. So what I did,
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  Speaker 4: I'm using your example. I don't wait for opportunities. I
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  Speaker 4: always go for it. Even when they say to me no,
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  Speaker 4: I always say, worst case scenario, you're going to say
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  Speaker 4: to me, no, I'm going to go and knock on
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  Speaker 4: another door.
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  Speaker 3: I always do that.
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  Speaker 4: There's some positions in my lifetime, like within my professional space,
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  Speaker 4: that I will go for it, and I'll be laughing
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  Speaker 4: at myself because me, you ain't go. But I still
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  Speaker 4: go for them because sometimes it just lends me in interviews,
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  Speaker 4: and I learned from the interviews because even though I'm
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  Speaker 4: I may not be ready for that position, but it
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  Speaker 4: puts me at an advantage where I'm thinking, Okay, this
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  Speaker 4: is what I need, you know, to improve myself. So
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  Speaker 4: you are right, some people it might be that, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why I said, you need access. If you're in
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  Speaker 4: a place where you can grow, where you can develop
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  Speaker 4: yourself professionally, is up to you. The responsibility is you,
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  Speaker 4: The accountability is on you. You're responsible for your own success.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is a great conversation because what we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about now is what I say it in my intro
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  Speaker 2: when I said, don't let your friends, family, or coworker
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  Speaker 2: stop you from planning or living your dream. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: could say you want to be an astronaut and somebody
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  Speaker 2: around the corner will tell you, really answer not you,
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  Speaker 2: Or you could say I want to be a sadist
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  Speaker 2: just because they don't know what it's sadist. I always
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  Speaker 2: tell people if you want to be a doctor, don't
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  Speaker 2: go to a mechanic advice Absolutely, and that's where mentorship
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  Speaker 2: comes in. Yes, mentorship allows you to communicate with people
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  Speaker 2: who can share you with quality advice about your dreams
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  Speaker 2: and opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: What we do a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of times is we nowadays were just googling everything
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  Speaker 2: you know, YouTube and everything YouTube you But it still
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  Speaker 2: goes back to the fact that we can be dreamers,
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  Speaker 2: and dreamers dreams can become real if you have the
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  Speaker 2: access yes to the right, people who can guide you
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  Speaker 2: because mentorship still.
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  Speaker 1: Is very powerful, correct, it is.
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  Speaker 3: Mentorship is powerful.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, Right from an early age,
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  Speaker 4: I think I've been wearing that umbrella of mentorship without knowing.
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  Speaker 4: And when I think about mentorship, I'm thinking somebody that's
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  Speaker 4: worked the journey. They don't have all the answers, but
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  Speaker 4: they've been there, done that. They're able to give you
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  Speaker 4: like a blueprint to work your on unique journey. It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you need to do exactly what they've done.
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  Speaker 4: They're just giving you a starting point. And when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to mentorship, which is lacking in our community, even
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  Speaker 4: though there's a lot of bars about it. Now, I
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  Speaker 4: mean amazingly we're doing well now with mentorship organization level,
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  Speaker 4: individual level, community level mentorship. Now it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: more known about we speaking about it. But the issue
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  Speaker 4: is and again access knowing when you need a mentor, Please.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class with me
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  Speaker 5: Rashaun McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about setbacks now. You said setbacks can't
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  Speaker 2: become strategy.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of people here that go.
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  Speaker 2: Setback, setback, like Macato, that's sudden this strategy. But I
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  Speaker 2: will tell you this. When I totally out my car,
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  Speaker 2: I rode the bus. I didn't let that setback. I
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  Speaker 2: just and that what strategy is. Now, Ben, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: let you speak. I'm gonna just say this about strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Strategy doesn't mean it's convenient. Strategy is that what is
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  Speaker 2: your alternate reason to be successful at the task you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to accomplish. Now, talk about setback. I just share
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  Speaker 2: that because I remember that. I remember my car told
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  Speaker 2: Loud I still had a job to go to. I
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  Speaker 2: had to catch two buses to get to my job,
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  Speaker 2: but I had to get up there early. When I
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  Speaker 2: got to my job, the job wasn't open, so I
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  Speaker 2: had to wait outside to let it open. But that
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  Speaker 2: that's me. That's what I had to do to continue
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  Speaker 2: my dreams. So I tease you about the setback becoming
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  Speaker 2: this what is that strategy associated with it? But it's
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  Speaker 2: important that people should know that if your house burnt down,
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  Speaker 2: that's a setback. But they're alter the reasons. But where
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  Speaker 2: people fail, so a lot of time Bama delli is
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  Speaker 2: that they're trying to get equal results from that setback
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  Speaker 2: and you can't.
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  Speaker 3: You can't talk to me.
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  Speaker 4: You can And when you think about setback, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a mindset.
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  Speaker 3: You know why. I said that, when you have.
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  Speaker 4: A setback, you're thinking what can I do? Because this
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  Speaker 4: can't stop me. I'll tell you about the first setback
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  Speaker 4: that I had as an individual.
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  Speaker 3: This was when I was in high school.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to initially actually I wanted to study pharmacy,
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  Speaker 4: but I didn't get the grades that I wanted. So
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  Speaker 4: my first year high school it was I mean high
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  Speaker 4: school in UK, so then we call it a levels.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like.
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  Speaker 4: All the science subjects, including computer science, I failed and
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  Speaker 4: the lecturer told me you don't have the for science.
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  Speaker 4: The lecturer told me you need to rethink your career options.
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  Speaker 4: That was a first setback for a teenager. And hearing that,
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  Speaker 4: what did I do with it? Funny enough, many could
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  Speaker 4: have taken that and be like, yeah, it's true, actually
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  Speaker 4: felt this is it, but they didn't. I didn't do that,
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  Speaker 4: So I tried again. I re enrolled. Okay I did,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, don't don't you say? When it comes to
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  Speaker 4: set back, you're not denying it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: You're not denying it that set back.
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  Speaker 1: Is there another time, another words, just hearing it.
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  Speaker 2: There are paths. Yes, the path you see may not
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  Speaker 2: be the path for you.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thoroughly enjoying this conversation because it's thought provoking
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  Speaker 2: and because of the fact that we make so many
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  Speaker 2: excuses as while.
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  Speaker 1: We are not where we are at, because we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at only one way to get there.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: That you know why.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes it's cultural, it's upbringing, it's environment, and then,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, as an individual, you need to make
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  Speaker 4: that decision to come out of that thing that is
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  Speaker 4: limiting you. Because when we think about it's easy to complain.
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  Speaker 4: It's so easy. But in your complaining, I mean you
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  Speaker 4: can actually complain. But in your complaint are you looking
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  Speaker 4: for solutions? You have to look for solutions. There has
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  Speaker 4: to be another way. Yes, things might not go the
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  Speaker 4: way you want it. Maybe it's the universary directing you.
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  Speaker 4: Because life is all about risk. You take risks everything
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  Speaker 4: we do. Even coming out of your house, getting into
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: your car is a.
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  Speaker 3: Risk because you don't know whether you're going to so
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it's about that calculated risk. And it is true.
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  Speaker 4: I can understand sometimes why many we may say that
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  Speaker 4: they're making excuses. It's easier for some people than other.
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  Speaker 4: It's about the support system that you have.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It's really key, It really is key. Now, how do
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: we get in touch with you? Parbadaily?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm on LinkedIn by my name by me.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know you better spell that name now I
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  Speaker 1: want to spell that out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to use cottage. So BA is spelled b
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  Speaker 4: A m I d E l e. And my last
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  Speaker 4: name is spelled f a r I n r E
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  Speaker 4: farn ray.
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  Speaker 2: Stem stem stem stem. Like I told you early my
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  Speaker 2: degrees in mathematics. You know, I never you know, like
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  Speaker 2: you hey, I I started out in the civil engineering,
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  Speaker 2: chemical engineering.
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  Speaker 1: You know I failed physics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that that ain't me And I got
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: my degree in mathematics and my miners in sociology and
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: so but like I said, that was a setback, but
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  Speaker 2: it didn't stop me because I wasn't I would and
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you about engineering. I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: the degree I should go into to make the most money,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: not the degree that was going to make me happy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Because now when I graduate, graduated with my math degree.
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  Speaker 2: I realized how much respect people have for a math degree,
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  Speaker 2: and I go, oh, okay, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: But when I it was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: When I was doing my engineering courses in college, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't having fun. I was just going to them and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: trying to compete, trying to understand. I did math. I
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  Speaker 2: did care one, two and three without a book. Wow, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And that wasn't even what I was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: doing because I thought I was going.
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  Speaker 1: To be an engineer.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So that goes back what we were saying that if
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  Speaker 2: it was a setback in physics, it caused me to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: have a new strategy that maybe that wasn't my course.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I slide over the math one two three, Boom, I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: don't even have a book, and eventually, you know, graduate
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: with a degree in mathematics. So that's what this conversation
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: really is centering on, not only just you as a brand,
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  Speaker 2: but you as a person that understands it. They're no
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  Speaker 2: ceilings now. Faith plays a role in your life. Talk
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  Speaker 2: to us about that.
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  Speaker 4: I can categorically say to you, Grace carried me to
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  Speaker 4: where I am today. There comes times where even the
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  Speaker 4: noise your family. They can't really understand, especially when you
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: have momental rejections of setback. There's something in you. You
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: can put it to words. That is when I go,
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  Speaker 4: I go into my closet, I speak to my God.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I have a conversation. Look, things are not
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  Speaker 4: going the way I plan. And you already told me
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  Speaker 4: everything works together for my goods.
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  Speaker 3: You, Oh my God.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, I have conversations. I love it. I'm friendly in
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: love it talks back because it's just laughing. He's thinking,
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  Speaker 4: look at this one. Only if you know what I
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: have planned for you. And you know what I can say.
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  Speaker 4: My life is a living testimony because for every step,
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  Speaker 4: every setback, I've come back like you know, when you
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  Speaker 4: come back, well, you know stronger.
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  Speaker 2: I always tell people, you know, because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people use faith to make a lot of decisions on
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  Speaker 2: and I respect that. But when you you can't tie
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: faith in business, you better have that business plan then
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you can tie it all together. But just shows up
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  Speaker 2: out there on faith, then it's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of consequences that you didn't justiciate. Now
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you're putting all that pressure on God and.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Pray work come at.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: But again, you know in our conversation you have another
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  Speaker 2: called BAMS.
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  Speaker 1: You found that BAMS B A. M. S. Spleet explain
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  Speaker 1: to us. And then it's association with no ceiling.
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  Speaker 3: You see the BAMS. Really it's about me.
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  Speaker 4: The BOMBS is man, they said, you know, whatever they
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  Speaker 4: want to call it, BAMBS is as an individual, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's personal. But when it comes to the no ceiling,
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  Speaker 4: the no ceiling is because in conversations I've been having
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: over the years, you keep hearing, especially within the professional space,
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  Speaker 4: or we're breaking ceilings and I'm like, why we which
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: ceilings are we breaking? Even then it didn't click in
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  Speaker 4: my mind because we speak about breaking barriers, but barriers
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  Speaker 4: is the same, you can say the same as a ceiling,
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  Speaker 4: because ceiling, like we're looking up now, you can't you can't.
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  Speaker 3: Go beyond that, right right, right? You can go?
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: So and then consistently breaking ceiling is I said, it's tiring, right,
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  Speaker 4: So I said, so, I was thinking, why do we
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: even have a ceiling in the first place? So what
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: we what we construt as a ceiling? Can we can
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: we do without it?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Right? So?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Well, and you know ceiling is resistance ceiling is like
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: an opposition. Ceiling is like stagnancy, you know, something like
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  Speaker 4: an obstacle that is stopping you for So say no ceiling.
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  Speaker 3: Let's operate in a world where we don't see the ceiling.
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  Speaker 4: We see like possibilities, opportunlar opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that because of the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 2: we do live you know, you know, I grew up
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: in a black neighborhood, and you watch television, there's stereotypes.
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  Speaker 1: Those are ceilings.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, you know I always consider a welfare
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that's a ceiling, you know, living a lifestyle, growing up
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in a a in a black neighborhood, it's a ceiling culture,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's how you look at that.
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  Speaker 2: And I look at my life. You know, I dealt
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: with all the ceiling. I wasn't no welfare with my family.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: My father worked, he was a truck driver, and my
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: mom raised us with six sisters, two brothers. But I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: do know that my number one goal was the neighborhood
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I live in. It wasn't the neighborhood I was going
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  Speaker 2: to die, Okay. And with that being said, it was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: important for people to understand that the values that I
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  Speaker 2: got were all from people that saw something in me
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't see in myself. Mentorship, yes, okay, so
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  Speaker 2: let's start putting this together. So I said, I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to die in the neighborhood that I grew up in.
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  Speaker 2: That's a ceiling that I removed. We talked about mentorship.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Two ladies in high school, Linda Trailer, my biology teacher,
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Nelson, my math teacher, were the two people that
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: saw things in me I didn't see. By the way,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Georgia Nelson, math teacher. Okay, I got a degree in
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: math and didn't like her class at all, but she
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: was always saying, you are special, you unique, and so
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: it took me seven years to graduate.
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  Speaker 1: That's a setback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But the strategy is.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I venture got my degree, and so when I look
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: at you and I think about you being a certified
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: agile project manager, how do agile principles apply beyond technology
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and how do you use it in leadership?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: A j'all. The word says it itself. Speed.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: You're thinking on your feet, you're thinking possibility, you're thinking opportunities.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Like you said, how do I use in leadership? You
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: don't see barriers. You see what can we make of
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: this barrier? In leadership, when you think about AJIA, you're
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: thinking about self managing, accountability, collaboration. When we're speaking about
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: your principles, that is what it's all about. And when
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: and serven leadership. Servin leadership is key because as a leader,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you need to serve in your serving your building, leader,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: in your serving your your team.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: They see what is possible.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: So when you're thinking our jib again, you're thinking self managing.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: You know, you you make people to be able to.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Believe in themselves. You don't.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So that's where like when it comes to delegation, you
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: don't micromanage. When it comes to you know, your team
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: and individuals within your team. The transition for me because
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: remember I'm a scientist. Yeah, then transitioning into tech our
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: job project management, I found that there way similar. How
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: do you say, uh, what is the word I'm looking for? Terminologies?
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: We speak the same language, but we use different Oh
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: what is the word I'm looking for? Like, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: doing the same thing differently, because when we when we
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: speak about our JIB, you're thinking about something that is done.
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  Speaker 4: You have a minimum viable product, Like there was so
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: you're not waiting until you get you You plan everything.
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  Speaker 4: You're consistently reflecting, You're consistently thinking how can we improve?
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: That is that is what we call when we speak
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: about our jib so and in this world, isn't he needed?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Is needed?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: If something feels you're thinking, Okay, what do we do next?
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: How do we move from here? You know what is
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: the next? What is the next things for us to
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: work on?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's created no ceilings, a philosophy that when
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I look back on, that's what I've lived by my
• 31:37
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