Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Entrepreneur: Successful Motivational Techniques: Insights into oneself and employees by Omar L. Harris.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life
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- 0:31Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories to start living your own.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Keep wedding. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Money Making Conversations Masterclass. This
- 0:44Speaker 1: is a good show that I set up in twenty
- 0:47Speaker 1: seventeen to sit down and interview people about their success stories,
- 0:51Speaker 1: so entrepreneurs, celebrities. Originally start out with celebrities because I
- 0:54Speaker 1: felt that people wanted to hear from celebrities. They wanted
- 0:57Speaker 1: to hear their stories, and I wouldraw those numbers and
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- 1:04Speaker 1: listen to sex stories or celebrities. They'll realize people don't
- 1:07Speaker 1: care by celebrities. They want to care about. They want
- 1:09Speaker 1: to hear about people like you that listen to the show, entrepreneurs,
- 1:14Speaker 1: everyday people. They want to hear about people nonprofits that
- 1:17Speaker 1: are making a difference in the community. I'm not saying
- 1:20Speaker 1: I don't do celebrities on the show, but I realize
- 1:22Speaker 1: is that every day wins. The everyday person who has
- 1:26Speaker 1: something to say, that's doing something in the community on
- 1:28Speaker 1: a regular basis is the person that is impacted by
- 1:32Speaker 1: the listeners who listen to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. So
- 1:36Speaker 1: let's get to show rolling. Not saying my guest is
- 1:39Speaker 1: not a celebrity, but I'm saying that he's an impactful
- 1:41Speaker 1: person in the community, a person you definitely want to
- 1:44Speaker 1: hear from. He's best suited to address questions that intersects
- 1:47Speaker 1: young leaders with leadership, teamwork, motivational and personal development, which
- 1:52Speaker 1: are all key components when you are trying to be
- 1:55Speaker 1: successful in life. Please welcome to the Money Making Conversation
- 1:58Speaker 1: Master Class. Omar L Harris, How.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Are you doing?
- 2:01Speaker 3: Omar, hey Rishan, how you doing?
- 2:03Speaker 1: Thanks for having me well, thank you for coming on
- 2:05Speaker 1: the show. And I was just pointing out that you
- 2:08Speaker 1: are the new stars man everyday people. You know, you
- 2:11Speaker 1: ain't got one billion social media follows, but you have motivation,
- 2:16Speaker 1: you have information, and you have a resume that people
- 2:19Speaker 1: want to hear about. What is the basis of the
- 2:22Speaker 1: foundation for what your brand is all about?
- 2:24Speaker 3: Omar, The foundation really is all about leadership and more important,
- 2:29Speaker 3: servant leadership. Servant leadership is the concept that the higher
- 2:34Speaker 3: of you going on an organization organization, the higher and
- 2:38Speaker 3: greater responsibility you have to lead and to affect the
- 2:42Speaker 3: employees in your care and servants support them to help
- 2:45Speaker 3: them achieve their goals and develop them and coach them,
- 2:48Speaker 3: and so it's not about we over me. Is the
- 2:51Speaker 3: attitude of a serving leader basically like, how can we
- 2:53Speaker 3: achieve bigger and more ambitious goals together, leave nobody behind
- 2:59Speaker 3: and collectively impact the community, customers and the environment and
- 3:05Speaker 3: even shareholders. But it all starts with the intention of
- 3:09Speaker 3: the leader themselves, with the leader.
- 3:12Speaker 1: And is that somebody that's appointed or somebody just assumes
- 3:16Speaker 1: that opportunity.
- 3:18Speaker 3: So basically, you know, leadership can be a title, so
- 3:21Speaker 3: basically you can you can think of someone who has
- 3:24Speaker 3: a title like director or manager or whatnot, but leadership
- 3:29Speaker 3: is actually earned, not given. So people can follow you
- 3:33Speaker 3: because of your title, right because they have to. But
- 3:35Speaker 3: the most effective leaders people follow them because they want
- 3:38Speaker 3: to because of the way that individual connects with them,
- 3:41Speaker 3: builds trust with them, and demonstrates their true intention is
- 3:44Speaker 3: for the good of that human being or those human
- 3:47Speaker 3: beings in their charge. And so that's really much more
- 3:49Speaker 3: effective of getting things done when people lean into you
- 3:53Speaker 3: because of how you lead, not because of what your
- 3:55Speaker 3: title is. Right.
- 3:57Speaker 1: That really is interesting when you say it like that,
- 3:59Speaker 1: because of the fact that some people can lead based
- 4:02Speaker 1: on fear, based on repercussions, based on but that's not
- 4:05Speaker 1: the right level of leadership if you want loyalty correct exactly.
- 4:10Speaker 3: I call those individuals bosses. And I wrote a book
- 4:12Speaker 3: be a Jedi Leader, not a Boss? What reason everyone
- 4:16Speaker 3: talking about bossing? And I think, you know, being the
- 4:18Speaker 3: boss of oneself cool, very empowering, very very very inspiring.
- 4:22Speaker 3: But when you aspire to boss other people, people don't
- 4:26Speaker 3: even understand where the word boss comes from. The word
- 4:28Speaker 3: boss comes from the word Dutch for master, and it
- 4:32Speaker 3: was actually implemented after slavery to keep us calling people master.
- 4:37Speaker 3: So when you use the word boss, there's a very
- 4:39Speaker 3: heavy conversation to that terminology that we should really move
- 4:42Speaker 3: away from. No one should want to ever be called
- 4:44Speaker 3: a boss in the workplace. But if you're giving, if
- 4:47Speaker 3: you call coach, or called manager or called leader, these
- 4:51Speaker 3: are much more aspirational and more effective titles to lean into.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Well, you know when I listen to you, Omar, that
- 4:58Speaker 1: that journey start is some Well, I know, like I said,
- 5:01Speaker 1: you know you pick up information along the way. I
- 5:03Speaker 1: know I did. You know, people mentored me, people told me, Rashan,
- 5:06Speaker 1: you should do this, even though I wanted to take
- 5:09Speaker 1: the easy route. You know, there's always to do. What
- 5:11Speaker 1: you should be doing is always the harder route. Don't
- 5:14Speaker 1: you agree, O mark on Hun.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Agree with that? Yes, it would do the hard things first,
- 5:18Speaker 3: I say, the heart things first.
- 5:20Speaker 1: And so how did it all start for you? You
- 5:22Speaker 1: know where you where you based at now? And where
- 5:24Speaker 1: did you start?
- 5:25Speaker 3: So I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Now they're a long
- 5:28Speaker 3: winding road to Charlotte. I was born in Pittsburgh. But
- 5:31Speaker 3: I would save my journey to leadership again at the
- 5:33Speaker 3: illustrious Florida A and M University in Tema. Me La, Yes, sir,
- 5:38Speaker 3: and you know, I was in the School of Business
- 5:40Speaker 3: and Industry and that's where we're basically. They called us
- 5:43Speaker 3: the Marines of business schools because of how we would
- 5:47Speaker 3: go through this boot camp process and then come out
- 5:49Speaker 3: the other side as primed and prepped leaders were to
- 5:52Speaker 3: take on the corporate world. And I did take on
- 5:54Speaker 3: the corporate world. For over twenty years, I worked in
- 5:56Speaker 3: pharmaceuticals from the US, Latin America, Middle East, middles and Asia.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Of course, for twenty year career, I've lived everywhere from
- 6:05Speaker 3: Brazil to Turkey to Indonesia over the course of my career,
- 6:09Speaker 3: leading teams and organizations of different sizes and scopes and
- 6:13Speaker 3: really get to test my brand of leadership around the world,
- 6:16Speaker 3: which is why I know that it's truly unique and
- 6:18Speaker 3: applicable because it's not just theoretical. A lot of people
- 6:21Speaker 3: you talk to are talking from a space of theory
- 6:23Speaker 3: or what makes sense, but I'm talking from a space
- 6:26Speaker 3: of actual practicality what I've actually done over the course
- 6:30Speaker 3: of my career living around the world.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And that's important. Now let's break down this whole living
- 6:35Speaker 1: around the world and exercising leaderships in those different moments
- 6:39Speaker 1: because I'm sure, you're dealing with different types of people,
- 6:42Speaker 1: different RACESM Ginger, and let's walk through those different steps
- 6:47Speaker 1: of what was what has been What is the most
- 6:49Speaker 1: challenging when you are leading around the world, But then
- 6:53Speaker 1: what allows you the most satisfaction when you do lead
- 6:57Speaker 1: around the world.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Right, Well, the most challenging aspect of leading around the
- 7:02Speaker 3: world to me was leading in places where the actual culture,
- 7:07Speaker 3: the culture goes against my leadership style. So for example,
- 7:11Speaker 3: in Indonesia, they are a very indirect culture and I'm
- 7:15Speaker 3: a very direct individual, and they actually very much respond
- 7:19Speaker 3: to hierarchy. So basically, if you don't have a title
- 7:23Speaker 3: in Indonesia, it's hard to get things done because people
- 7:25Speaker 3: only respect title. And I went in there with this
- 7:28Speaker 3: whole idea of flattening the hierarchy, getting rid of titles,
- 7:30Speaker 3: and just doing the right things for the good of patients.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Can We were working in a pharmaceutical context, and that
- 7:36Speaker 3: was very challenging to get people to actually lean in
- 7:38Speaker 3: and believe in me because I wasn't coming from a
- 7:40Speaker 3: position of hierarchy. I wasn't imposing, I wasn't telling people
- 7:43Speaker 3: what to do. I was trying to engage them in
- 7:45Speaker 3: the purpose of our organization and then get to do
- 7:48Speaker 3: the right thing because they believe in the purpose, which
- 7:50Speaker 3: is a lot harder to do as a leader, but
- 7:53Speaker 3: it's also much more sustainable. Once people connect with purpose,
- 7:57Speaker 3: they connect their individual purpose to the organization's purpose, then
- 8:00Speaker 3: you're off to the races. So that was a really
- 8:02Speaker 3: great lab for me to actually implement and see how
- 8:05Speaker 3: how much I really believe in my leadership philosophy is
- 8:08Speaker 3: because it would have been very easy to discard those
- 8:10Speaker 3: and just lean into hierarchies that do it because I
- 8:12Speaker 3: tell you to do it. But I never did that.
- 8:14Speaker 3: I made sure that I led through supporting and serving
- 8:18Speaker 3: and not dictating and directing.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting when you talk about leadership, you know,
- 8:23Speaker 1: because everybody wants to believe there are a leader. You know,
- 8:25Speaker 1: they're like you said, there are natural ways to leadership.
- 8:28Speaker 1: There as assigned leadership. But we was trying to manage.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Is there when I use the word management and leadership?
- 8:35Speaker 1: Am I used in? Are they different terms? Management and leadership?
- 8:40Speaker 3: Actually? Are? There's three terms? Actually? I think I said
- 8:42Speaker 3: there's three modes of let's get lead, three modes of leadership.
- 8:46Speaker 3: There's manager mode, coach mode and leader mode. Okay, so
- 8:49Speaker 3: you're in leader mode when you are inspiring and motivating
- 8:52Speaker 3: and performance. So basically when you're leaning into purpose and
- 8:56Speaker 3: say listen, we're trying to achieve this vision with a
- 8:59Speaker 3: big visionary. And when you're inspiring and motivating, your leading
- 9:02Speaker 3: because you're getting people to follow you. When you're coaching,
- 9:05Speaker 3: you are working with people on an individual or group
- 9:08Speaker 3: basis to correct or to enhance behaviors. So you're coaching
- 9:11Speaker 3: basically try to dial up positive behaviors and dial down
- 9:15Speaker 3: negative behaviors. And when you're managing, you are focusing on
- 9:19Speaker 3: the work being done itself, so how the quality and
- 9:23Speaker 3: the care being put into the work itself is being managed. Basically,
- 9:28Speaker 3: achieving key performance indicators and these types of terminology is
- 9:33Speaker 3: what you're doing fundamentally when you're managing a business or
- 9:36Speaker 3: managing people.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Now I'm talking to amar L Harris. Omar L Harris,
- 9:41Speaker 1: he basically talking about leadership, teamwork, motivation, and personal development.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Reason I bring this up because you know, we have
- 9:47Speaker 1: so many people listening to the show to have some
- 9:49Speaker 1: all business or they may be you know, in major corporations,
- 9:53Speaker 1: and when you walk into a session or employees. You
- 9:57Speaker 1: might have twenty different people, but all different persons, and
- 10:00Speaker 1: you've laid out three pillows there. So when you look
- 10:03Speaker 1: at it, because everybody works differently. Some people are self motivated.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Some people you have to you have to get in
- 10:08Speaker 1: and get get to get the work out of them.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Some people show up on time, some people want to
- 10:13Speaker 1: stay late. And then you have different gender tones and ethnicities. Now,
- 10:18Speaker 1: people listening to this show, and because I'm not talking
- 10:21Speaker 1: about the military, that's a whole different conversation. I'm talking
- 10:24Speaker 1: about that forty hour week person. How does your structure
- 10:28Speaker 1: come into play when you're dealing with so many different
- 10:30Speaker 1: personalities as well as different gender.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Well, this is why leadership is hard work for Storm,
- 10:35Speaker 3: because it's not It's not why do you take the
- 10:37Speaker 3: big bucks? This is to ask peop well, why do
- 10:40Speaker 3: you want to be a leader of your groupe? Because
- 10:41Speaker 3: they want the salary, they want to bag, they want
- 10:43Speaker 3: to they want the status. But you know, with great status,
- 10:46Speaker 3: the great responsibility. Now what are you going to do?
- 10:48Speaker 3: Now you're a leader? What are you gonna do? Who's
- 10:50Speaker 3: gonna follow you? Right? And so you have to the
- 10:52Speaker 3: goal of a leader is you have to individualize leadership
- 10:55Speaker 3: to your point, what I need to know what where
- 10:57Speaker 3: everybody on my in my organization is on their journey.
- 11:01Speaker 3: I just know who to direct, who to coach, who
- 11:05Speaker 3: to empower, who to delegate to. And that's not going
- 11:07Speaker 3: to be the same group of people. And depending on
- 11:10Speaker 3: that's with I have to adjust my style to the
- 11:13Speaker 3: needs of my people. That's what it means. By serving
- 11:14Speaker 3: them from leadership, I'm serving you by adapting my style,
- 11:18Speaker 3: meeting me where you are and helping you get to
- 11:19Speaker 3: the next level. It's a lot of work to be
- 11:21Speaker 3: a leader, so people who leadership is thrown around a lot,
- 11:25Speaker 3: but there's very few actual leaders leading in this way
- 11:28Speaker 3: in the world unfortunately.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Well, you know it's important when I when I bring
- 11:31Speaker 1: yourself and I smile because of the fact that you
- 11:34Speaker 1: know you want to be a leader. You want that
- 11:37Speaker 1: responsibility comes with leadership. But like you said, it's so
- 11:41Speaker 1: mentally draining, and and you hire people because I'm in
- 11:46Speaker 1: the position to hire people, in the position to also
- 11:48Speaker 1: terminate people, but you want to You don't hire people
- 11:51Speaker 1: to terminate them. You hire them and hopefully you made
- 11:53Speaker 1: the best decision because you go through a weed out
- 11:55Speaker 1: process did you brought a person on board that meets
- 11:59Speaker 1: the stand that you have, But then that person has
- 12:02Speaker 1: to be assimilated into the culture, you know, And that's
- 12:06Speaker 1: what I'm assuming the management comes in there and then
- 12:09Speaker 1: you the leadership has to allow them to talk to
- 12:12Speaker 1: your other employees to allow them to understand the strategy
- 12:16Speaker 1: of how this person is going to be positioned into
- 12:18Speaker 1: the workflow. But what fails sometime is that you just
- 12:22Speaker 1: want people just to fit in and do their job.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Sometimes you just get tired, O, Mark, Can you can
- 12:27Speaker 1: you just do it? Can you just do it?
- 12:29Speaker 3: How? You know?
- 12:30Speaker 1: And I say that when I smile because I know
- 12:33Speaker 1: that if people listening on this car or listen to
- 12:36Speaker 1: the show are there too, they go, hey, man, can
- 12:38Speaker 1: I just hire somebody and they just do their job
- 12:40Speaker 1: and I just go home? But that's not the case.
- 12:43Speaker 3: Correct, We're sorry, we were detend of what your ultimate
- 12:47Speaker 3: goal is, we over me. If you want to if
- 12:51Speaker 3: the highest level of ambition requires the highest level of leadership.
- 12:54Speaker 3: If you don't have high ambition, then you can do that.
- 12:56Speaker 3: You can tell people what to do and they'll do it,
- 12:58Speaker 3: and then they'll go home. But they're not going to
- 13:00Speaker 3: engage and give themselves fully to the work, right, and
- 13:03Speaker 3: so what you want I mean we're talking about We're
- 13:05Speaker 3: talking about engagement because engagement leads to productivity, and if
- 13:08Speaker 3: you want to inspire the highest level of productivity, you
- 13:11Speaker 3: have to make the person feel essential to the work
- 13:14Speaker 3: being done. Not just do this work, but bring your
- 13:17Speaker 3: best self to doing the work, and bring your best
- 13:20Speaker 3: self doing the work because you believe in the cause
- 13:22Speaker 3: of the mission. And so that's where it gets really
- 13:25Speaker 3: really tricking. It's hard for people to elevate themselves from bossing,
- 13:31Speaker 3: get out of bossing and get into managing, coaching and leading.
- 13:35Speaker 3: They have to negate and get rid of their self
- 13:39Speaker 3: orientation and focus on what the other person needs to
- 13:43Speaker 3: get to that level that they're already at because they
- 13:45Speaker 3: already already achieved or they started the business, or they're
- 13:48Speaker 3: in that position.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Well, they got that job to cash in that check,
- 13:52Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it. I'm going I got to
- 13:55Speaker 1: get more out of them, because I want to get
- 13:56Speaker 1: into one of your techniques, your motivational techniques. They incited
- 13:59Speaker 1: to motivating warmth. And I'm very serious. You know, I've
- 14:03Speaker 1: been in a position to hire people last last twenty
- 14:08Speaker 1: years of my life, I've been hiring and securing people
- 14:12Speaker 1: for full time job opportunities, and each one of them
- 14:15Speaker 1: is different, but alone the way, Sometimes you can give
- 14:18Speaker 1: people too much rope, too much opportunity, hoping and maybe
- 14:23Speaker 1: even praying that they would get it. What is the
- 14:26Speaker 1: motivational text needs I should be using so I won't
- 14:30Speaker 1: get frustrated?
- 14:31Speaker 3: Omar, So once again, go back to basic principles. Go
- 14:35Speaker 3: back to childhood, when you first learn to ride a bike,
- 14:39Speaker 3: right when you first learn how to ride a bike,
- 14:40Speaker 3: that your mom or dad lets you ride around them
- 14:42Speaker 3: there or the entire neighborhood wherever you want it. No,
- 14:46Speaker 3: I told you you can ride in the yard right here,
- 14:48Speaker 3: right right. You can ride the bike in the yard
- 14:52Speaker 3: right here. Once you've proven you can ride the bike
- 14:54Speaker 3: in the yard right here without killing yourself or hurting
- 14:56Speaker 3: anybody else, you can go down the block to this point,
- 15:00Speaker 3: come back, go down the block. Come back only after
- 15:03Speaker 3: you've demonstrated that for a while. Well, I'll let you
- 15:06Speaker 3: release the ring and allow you to ride the bike
- 15:08Speaker 3: wherever you want. As it comes to gam maturity, so understanding,
- 15:12Speaker 3: no matter what you expect of somebody coming into an organization.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Everybody needs that goes through that process, whether they're very
- 15:19Speaker 3: senior orhe that they're very junior, there's a process of
- 15:22Speaker 3: onboarding where you need to basically define the boundaries for
- 15:26Speaker 3: them in that initial stage, in this initial state that
- 15:28Speaker 3: wants you to do in this kind of work. I'm
- 15:30Speaker 3: going to release you, but I need to see you
- 15:32Speaker 3: do this kind of thing well first. And so this
- 15:35Speaker 3: gives them confidence to get things done in an effective way.
- 15:39Speaker 3: They build their confidence and you build your trust in them.
- 15:41Speaker 3: That allows you to release them to go further and
- 15:43Speaker 3: further and further faster in their journey and so motivationally.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Create the boundaries initially for what you want someone to do.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Don't just have someone come in the door and dump
- 15:53Speaker 3: all the work that wasn't being done on this individual.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Like figure it out. That's what usually happens. People come
- 15:58Speaker 3: in you like figure it out right because you don't
- 16:01Speaker 3: want to be bothered with it. You want to basically
- 16:03Speaker 3: hand off the work. But if you do that, you're
- 16:05Speaker 3: going to bury the person. They're not gonna be motivated,
- 16:07Speaker 3: they're not gonna be engaged, and they're going to see
- 16:09Speaker 3: that it was all about you in the first place,
- 16:11Speaker 3: not about them. Well you so take a step to
- 16:14Speaker 3: do that help them out.
- 16:14Speaker 1: We know, Oh, something you said really key in this
- 16:17Speaker 1: whole conversation with the word on boarding, and that is
- 16:20Speaker 1: something I had to learn. We're going to take a
- 16:22Speaker 1: break when we come back. I want to bring that
- 16:23Speaker 1: at the top of the conversation. The on boarding process
- 16:26Speaker 1: that you have to put in play when you bring
- 16:28Speaker 1: in a new employee in so they can understand the culture.
- 16:31Speaker 1: If you don't on board them and just have them
- 16:33Speaker 1: walk out there and just kind of figure out on
- 16:35Speaker 1: their own, you're going to have a problem. And I've
- 16:38Speaker 1: had that problem in the past and own boarding and
- 16:40Speaker 1: HR plays a major role in correcting those issues. Be
- 16:43Speaker 1: right back with more money Making Conversations master Class and
- 16:46Speaker 1: my guests Omar L. Harris, thank you. Be right back.
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- 17:23Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Omar L. Harris, and he's educating me.
- 17:27Speaker 1: He's allowed me to speak honestly about how I have
- 17:31Speaker 1: dealt with employees that I've hired over the years. And
- 17:33Speaker 1: hopefully the information that he's given me is hitting home
- 17:36Speaker 1: with some of the people who are listening to the show.
- 17:39Speaker 1: And you know, Omar, when I sit down and think
- 17:42Speaker 1: about myself as an individual, you know, sometimes you can
- 17:47Speaker 1: you know, it can be daunting task because you have
- 17:50Speaker 1: a budget for a number of employees you can hire,
- 17:52Speaker 1: and so there's a certain level of expectation that you
- 17:55Speaker 1: need to see happen in that position that you hire.
- 17:59Speaker 1: But the own body process, it's where I was failing
- 18:02Speaker 1: miserably when I was bringing new employees on that on board.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Can you expound on that.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is actually something that I went through
- 18:11Speaker 3: in my leadership journey as well, where I, you know,
- 18:14Speaker 3: basically assumed because someone had a certain level of career
- 18:17Speaker 3: maturity or title coming in the door, that I didn't
- 18:20Speaker 3: need to kind of hold their hand on the way in.
- 18:22Speaker 3: And what I realized is that you know, previous experience,
- 18:26Speaker 3: previous is you know, uh, success is context dependent. So
- 18:31Speaker 3: just because you were successful in a previous context. Just
- 18:34Speaker 3: because Lebron James won a championship in Cleveland on meet,
- 18:36Speaker 3: he's an won one in LA right, So you have
- 18:38Speaker 3: to still be on boarded into the organization, the culture,
- 18:42Speaker 3: the values, the principles and expectations. And so what I
- 18:46Speaker 3: began doing was realizing that HR was the only going
- 18:48Speaker 3: to help me so much. So HR was only going
- 18:51Speaker 3: to basically bring people into the culture and help them
- 18:53Speaker 3: meet other individuals, but they weren't going to get on
- 18:56Speaker 3: board to my expectations and my leadership styles, and we
- 18:59Speaker 3: weren't going to be able to trust fright from the beginning.
- 19:01Speaker 3: So I innovated a three hour onboarding conversation that I
- 19:05Speaker 3: had with each person who directly reported into me. So
- 19:08Speaker 3: I spent three hours in the first two weeks with
- 19:10Speaker 3: every person who were directly reported into me, whether I'd
- 19:13Speaker 3: inherited them or whether I hired them, and built trust,
- 19:17Speaker 3: conversed about styles, conversed about strengths, creating powerful partnerships. We've
- 19:22Speaker 3: discussed our expectations, we discussed upcoming priorities, and I explained
- 19:26Speaker 3: to them, I'm giving you ninety days to get up
- 19:29Speaker 3: to speed, and so I'm going to support you really
- 19:31Speaker 3: hold your hand for ninety days. At not to day
- 19:35Speaker 3: ninety one. The training will go off if you're going
- 19:37Speaker 3: around the block, but for ninety days, listen, come to
- 19:40Speaker 3: me for everything you need. I am here to give
- 19:42Speaker 3: you all the support you need to make sure you
- 19:44Speaker 3: are successful. I want to set you up for success.
- 19:47Speaker 3: And so that to some leaders, that's a tremendous burden.
- 19:50Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I have to do that, well, okay,
- 19:53Speaker 3: if you don't do it, the implication of not doing
- 19:56Speaker 3: that kind of action, whether that be one hour or
- 19:58Speaker 3: three hours or any amount of time, is that this
- 20:01Speaker 3: person is not going to connect with you right away.
- 20:04Speaker 3: They're not going to understand the parameters and expectations of
- 20:07Speaker 3: how they're being measured and what's going to make them successful.
- 20:10Speaker 3: And they're not going to have permission to come to
- 20:12Speaker 3: you to ask all their questions that they have, or
- 20:15Speaker 3: to get directed to resources within the organization to get
- 20:18Speaker 3: their questions asked. Because the biggest thing to success when
- 20:21Speaker 3: you're doing an organization is knowing the whens hows, who's
- 20:24Speaker 3: what's wise. You have to get all that stuff answered
- 20:27Speaker 3: in order for you to be set out for success.
- 20:29Speaker 3: That takes around ninety days giving people that grace is
- 20:32Speaker 3: really important. Giving them that support is really important, that
- 20:35Speaker 3: you can watch them fly.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Right, it's really important. And also you know that ninety
- 20:40Speaker 1: day window usually is the probation window that you give employees,
- 20:44Speaker 1: So it's important to keep that eye. And that's what
- 20:47Speaker 1: the holy evaluation process comes in, because again, all these
- 20:52Speaker 1: things matter because people come to work for you. One,
- 20:55Speaker 1: they've accepted the job based on the income that you're
- 20:58Speaker 1: offering them along the way, they are not going to
- 21:01Speaker 1: be satisfied with that salary a year from now or
- 21:04Speaker 1: two years. They might not be satisfied ninety days from now,
- 21:08Speaker 1: and so you have to evaluate that. And when in
- 21:11Speaker 1: speaking to you, Omar, when you're talking about leadership, when
- 21:14Speaker 1: you're a small business owner and an entrepreneur, you are
- 21:17Speaker 1: the leader. You know, you're not working for a fortune
- 21:19Speaker 1: five hundred company. What are some of the advice for
- 21:21Speaker 1: aspiring entrepreneurs starting new business and maintaining you know, the
- 21:27Speaker 1: the resilience of facing these challenges that they should do,
- 21:31Speaker 1: or there's some steps like we talked about HR. We
- 21:34Speaker 1: talked about HR is just the starting point. You have
- 21:36Speaker 1: to take it to the rest. What are some of
- 21:38Speaker 1: the some of the building points for an entrepreneur, I
- 21:41Speaker 1: would take.
- 21:42Speaker 3: A step back. When you're an entrepreneur, you know that
- 21:44Speaker 3: every hire counts, right, you cannot really afford to make
- 21:48Speaker 3: bad hiring decisions because every individual you're bringing is going
- 21:52Speaker 3: to be doing more than whatever your title for them
- 21:54Speaker 3: is anyway, because you're small, right, and when you're smaller,
- 21:56Speaker 3: to do everything. So what I tell people is to
- 21:59Speaker 3: prioritize behaviors over pedigree. So it doesn't matter where you
- 22:04Speaker 3: went to school, doesn't matter what your previous experiences in
- 22:06Speaker 3: your resume. What I care about is what I call
- 22:09Speaker 3: the whom. The whom so I want to understand your
- 22:13Speaker 3: work ethic, your heart so basically shared passion, your optimism
- 22:18Speaker 3: which is a O, and your maturity when I get
- 22:21Speaker 3: I calibrate this actually via a questionnaire that I have
- 22:24Speaker 3: in my first book, Read Aboard the DNA of High
- 22:26Speaker 3: Performance Teams. But basically this process of whome interviewing allows
- 22:31Speaker 3: me to calibrate and bring in a right what I
- 22:33Speaker 3: call team DNA right from the start, so I don't
- 22:36Speaker 3: make hiring mistakes. I make sure I bring in a
- 22:39Speaker 3: right team DNA, and then I can mold that DNA
- 22:42Speaker 3: towards task and what's happening within the business. But it's
- 22:46Speaker 3: hard to fix a mistake you've made in a hiring processing.
- 22:51Speaker 3: You know, if you hire somebody poorly, or you hired poorly,
- 22:54Speaker 3: you know that this is a very costly, timely mistake
- 22:57Speaker 3: and it can really take the wind out of the
- 22:59Speaker 3: sales of small business especially well.
- 23:02Speaker 1: You know, let's be real. Now, when you hire somebody,
- 23:06Speaker 1: they may have had another job they've left, so you
- 23:09Speaker 1: just kind of it has been maturity on both sides here.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Maturity that you've made a mistake in your hiring, but
- 23:15Speaker 1: you've also asked this person to trust you in the
- 23:19Speaker 1: hiring process. So if you've hired the wrong person, you
- 23:22Speaker 1: have to take on responsibility. And I think this is
- 23:24Speaker 1: what Omar is saying. When you're on board somebody, there
- 23:27Speaker 1: has to be handholding. You just can't push somebody in
- 23:30Speaker 1: the corner where you've got a master's degree or you
- 23:32Speaker 1: got experience in computer science or you got to experience
- 23:35Speaker 1: in accounting, go do what you do because this person
- 23:38Speaker 1: has come on board into your company, bought into your culture,
- 23:42Speaker 1: and you just can't go, well, I've hired the wrong person.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Maybe you've shown bad leadership when do we accept responsibility
- 23:48Speaker 1: that we are not doing our job Omar as.
- 23:51Speaker 3: Leaders, Oh yeah, this is the most important thing. Is
- 23:54Speaker 3: a concept called the window in the mirror. And so
- 23:57Speaker 3: the window in the mirror concept is basically this, uh,
- 24:00Speaker 3: it's true. Leaders what they do is when they are
- 24:03Speaker 3: when it when it comes time to give praise and
- 24:05Speaker 3: look out the window, so basically trying to look for
- 24:08Speaker 3: people to get praise too. But when it comes time
- 24:10Speaker 3: to take accountability for actions and look in the mirror,
- 24:13Speaker 3: so you look at yourself. So basically the first port
- 24:16Speaker 3: of call for for when things go bad, look in
- 24:19Speaker 3: the mirror, look at what you did wrong, raise your
- 24:22Speaker 3: own self awareness and understand where you could have improved
- 24:24Speaker 3: yourself and admit and admit where you failed. But when
- 24:29Speaker 3: it comes time to giving out praise, be generous, open
- 24:31Speaker 3: out window and shout to the to the rooftops about
- 24:34Speaker 3: the praise. And that's what real you know, as a
- 24:36Speaker 3: very simple concept, but basically the window in the mirror
- 24:39Speaker 3: allows you to think about what the role of the
- 24:41Speaker 3: leader is. You have to take accountability, as you mentioned Shan,
- 24:44Speaker 3: you have to take that accountability right and look at
- 24:46Speaker 3: look at yourself and say hey, I screwed up. I
- 24:49Speaker 3: got to fix it and I got to make it right.
- 24:52Speaker 1: It's really and that's when you get into personal development
- 24:54Speaker 1: and self improvement, both on the on the leadership side
- 24:57Speaker 1: as well as the developer of the people that you
- 25:00Speaker 1: high What are some of the tips on goal setting
- 25:02Speaker 1: and self reflection?
- 25:05Speaker 3: Well, so for goals, basically, you know, we have this,
- 25:08Speaker 3: we have frameworks, you know, smart whatever it is. I
- 25:10Speaker 3: think at the end of the day, what matters for
- 25:13Speaker 3: goal setting is to make sure that the bar you're
- 25:16Speaker 3: trying to achieve is attainable, but it is difficult, so
- 25:20Speaker 3: it needs to be really ambitious. You want to make
- 25:23Speaker 3: sure you have ambition in your goal. You want to
- 25:24Speaker 3: stretch in your goal because people develop when they're stretched,
- 25:28Speaker 3: when it's not just a layup. And so you want
- 25:30Speaker 3: to make things what makes things detainable so they're achievable,
- 25:33Speaker 3: So you want to make sure they have to We
- 25:35Speaker 3: all have to work to get here. You know. It's
- 25:37Speaker 3: sort of like you know, trying to climb Everest, right,
- 25:39Speaker 3: we have to go one stage at a time, So
- 25:41Speaker 3: our goal this time is going to be stage one,
- 25:42Speaker 3: Stage two, Stage three, stage four, and we know and
- 25:45Speaker 3: make sure you know when you get there, we have
- 25:46Speaker 3: milestones and you celebrate success along the journey. So I
- 25:50Speaker 3: think that's really really important in terms of goal setting,
- 25:52Speaker 3: is it's to set up that frame in terms of
- 25:54Speaker 3: your mind, in terms of making sure it is honestly
- 25:56Speaker 3: attainable what you're trying to achieve, but not so easy
- 25:59Speaker 3: that everybody hits the mark every time.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Well, that's really important. So how can we reach out
- 26:04Speaker 1: to you a website? Social media there, omar so we
- 26:07Speaker 1: can you know gate because you mentioned several books, tell
- 26:10Speaker 1: us some background on how we can now follow you.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. Rison. So my website www. Dot
- 26:17Speaker 3: Omar Lharris dot com is the best place to get
- 26:21Speaker 3: access and learn more about myself. On Amazon dot com
- 26:24Speaker 3: Omar L. Harris, if you google Omar L. Harris, all
- 26:27Speaker 3: my books will come up, and my socials will come up,
- 26:30Speaker 3: and on Instagram omrl dot Harris and LinkedIn Omarl Harris.
- 26:35Speaker 3: So basically made it pretty easy for you to find me.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Well, greatful. First of all, thank you for coming on
- 26:40Speaker 1: the show, because you know, this is the first time
- 26:43Speaker 1: I've had a kind of like I believe I've given
- 26:45Speaker 1: a leadership session on the show. From a standpoon of management,
- 26:49Speaker 1: as paying a standpoint of strategy, because sometimes I have
- 26:52Speaker 1: to look in the mirror. I have to understand that
- 26:55Speaker 1: I invited these people and I put a indeed add
- 26:58Speaker 1: in and saying I'm hiring that I have to go
- 27:01Speaker 1: through the process of not just hiring the first person
- 27:03Speaker 1: to come through the door because I'm I don't feel
- 27:05Speaker 1: like doing this. I have to hire the best person
- 27:08Speaker 1: because there's a commitment on both sides, the commitment that
- 27:11Speaker 1: I'm going to welcome into a culture to give them
- 27:14Speaker 1: an opportunity to succeed and also train them so they
- 27:18Speaker 1: can succeed in the mindset of what my level of
- 27:21Speaker 1: expectation is.
- 27:22Speaker 3: That correct one hundred percent. And for me, I guesked
- 27:27Speaker 3: me earlier how to I dot success of leadership And
- 27:29Speaker 3: it comes down to I look back at my career,
- 27:32Speaker 3: look at the amount of leaders that I've created who
- 27:34Speaker 3: have gone and surpassed me in terms of leader corporate leadership,
- 27:37Speaker 3: and that's how I did my success. If you achieve
- 27:39Speaker 3: the level that I was at when I was leading
- 27:40Speaker 3: you or but above that, that to me is success
- 27:43Speaker 3: because true leaders make other leaders cool.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Thank you allmar Harris for calling in and speaking to
- 27:47Speaker 1: me on Money Making Conversations Master Class, because you have
- 27:49Speaker 1: given us a class today, my friend, Thank.
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