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- 0:00The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
- 0:04B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
- 0:06The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
- 0:10-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:18Here we go. Boxing B -Sides. We are back to talk
- 0:26the fights. I am joined by the homies. Josh,
- 0:30how goes it? Yes. Good. This is going to be a
- 0:34fun one. And the one and only Saul. Welcome back,
- 0:39guys. Another week. More fights to talk. But
- 0:45I got to talk. Another week. Another belt without
- 0:49Virgil. I got to talk about my little homie Punch.
- 0:53Punch the monkey. His name is Punch. I just...
- 0:58I was immediately drawn to him. He has graduated.
- 1:01They're taking away his little stuffed orangutan.
- 1:05And because he has been accepted by... They call
- 1:10them troops. The monkey fucking clans. They're
- 1:13troops. So the adults of the group, of the troop,
- 1:19are... Like, they hug him and they groom him
- 1:23and stuff. So he's... He's going to make it.
- 1:26Punch is a big boy now. All right. A little bit
- 1:34of MMA recap. Extending the hand of friendship
- 1:37to our fellows Nathan and Isaac over at Ultimate
- 1:40F and Casuals. Oh, man. This March 7th, UFC 326.
- 1:50This was a fucking mistake on my part. last when
- 1:55we talked about it a few weeks ago i had said
- 1:59there's no um there's no boxing on this weekend
- 2:04right on this day in particular yes so you there's
- 2:09a clear path if you are if you are just really
- 2:12hard up and you really want fights and i listed
- 2:15a couple that are that were supposed to be engaging,
- 2:19exciting, striker -heavy, not a lot of grappling,
- 2:23and boy, was I fucking wrong. Me when I lie.
- 2:27Yeah, holy shit. One that I did call correctly,
- 2:34Sumu Derji, in the early prelims, had a really
- 2:37fun fight with Jesus Aguilar. Man, there was
- 2:42one in the prelims, Cody Garbrandt. Ended up
- 2:46winning a UD over Xiao Long. He got kicked so
- 2:50hard in the nuts, he threw up. I saw that happening.
- 2:55I was like, brother, I feel you. I know exactly
- 2:57what that pain is like. Jesus. So there was that.
- 3:03There's a pretty sick knockout to open up the
- 3:06main portion. Gregory Rodriguez. Is he the one
- 3:11that goes by RoboCop? I think he is. Maybe. I
- 3:16think it's him. The two guys are both Brazilian
- 3:21and whatever. Sorry, guys. I'm racist as fuck.
- 3:28Other than that, like... Oh, Drew Dober. Holy
- 3:32shit. TKO2 over Michael Johnson. There were rumors
- 3:39that... Oh, the nephew, the kidnapped nephew.
- 3:43The gangster disciples, that notorious gang,
- 3:48kidnapped Michael Johnson's nephew, and they
- 3:52told him, throw the fight in the second round.
- 3:55And the fight got pulled off of the sportsbooks
- 4:00because there were changes in the money line.
- 4:06I don't know what the fuck that means. I think
- 4:08there's a lot of money going on. michael johnson
- 4:11stopped in two so they're like hey this is kind
- 4:15of funky and they pulled it but the fight went
- 4:19on he ends up getting stopped in two uh um i
- 4:25i'll get into the my the conspiracy part of it
- 4:31more on ultimate effing casuals i i think he
- 4:36sold the fight i think he did um but Honestly,
- 4:40that was like the peak of the excitement for
- 4:44the rest of the card. And I apologize to anybody
- 4:48who, on my advice, watched this. Specifically,
- 4:55the main and co -main. Fuck it, even the one
- 4:58before that, Raul Rosas over Rob Font. If you
- 5:02watch these fights, because I said they should
- 5:05be exciting, they should be fun. You have my
- 5:08sincerest apologies. I wouldn't blame you. It's
- 5:13all Dana's fault. I blame Virgil Ortiz. Why doesn't
- 5:18he have a belt yet? Charles Oliveira, BMF champ
- 5:22before Virgil Ortiz. Honestly, I just watched
- 5:28softcore gay porn in there. That's, yeah, that's
- 5:34what I was saying. It was the 25 -minute cuddle
- 5:36session in the main event. Like, yeah. Goddamn.
- 5:39Like, Max is, he did his signature little, like,
- 5:45point down where he's like, we're gonna stand
- 5:47toe -to -toe. And Oliveira went for it. Here's
- 5:51the problem. They only had six fucking seconds
- 5:53left on the clock. Oh, my God. God. So, it's
- 5:59like Devin Haney. You can, you can do that. You
- 6:03just fucking choose not to. And the funny thing
- 6:07is that Charles Oliveira is not a boring fighter.
- 6:10He's not. Yeah, it's just this fight was just...
- 6:13This was ass. Yeah. I feel bad for Max. Apparently,
- 6:20for whatever consolation it is, he was awarded
- 6:25his jiu -jitsu black belt because he... Was facing
- 6:33a superior grappler. Like superior rank or whatever.
- 6:37And he defended himself. Adequately. So they
- 6:41promoted him. Yeah. Get after it. But like I
- 6:48said. I'll talk more about the. Conspiracy parts.
- 6:53Of the Drew Dober fight. Over on Ultimate F and
- 6:56Casuals. Wherever fine podcasts. Are distributed.
- 7:00You can find that. Moving into the boxing news.
- 7:05Most Valuable Promotions signs a long -term deal
- 7:10with... I misspelled it here, too. God damn it.
- 7:13ESPN. Not EPSN. MVP TV deal before top rank.
- 7:22You want Jake Paul before you want... They even
- 7:27founded the MVPW. where they're going to be putting
- 7:33up the women's fights. Brutal. Not brutal that
- 7:37they're doing that. Brutal that like the state
- 7:39of our sport. I think ESPN, ESPN, even though
- 7:47they let UFC leave, even though the top rank
- 7:52deal expired and they are still like struggling
- 7:55to renew it. I think ESPN had always intended
- 7:59to stay in the fight sports game. They have maintained
- 8:04their broadcasting deal with PFL, which is like
- 8:09a secondary promotion. It's like the retirement
- 8:14league for UFC, pretty much. What I think happened
- 8:19here is MVP and MVPW offers fights. at a lower
- 8:27cost because i'm like it's an unfortunate reality
- 8:32the women don't get paid nearly as much as the
- 8:35men even if they're like undisputed champions
- 8:37and so that's what i think is happening here
- 8:41is espn wanted cheap fights and they get to say
- 8:45uh we're you know super gung -ho about putting
- 8:50women on the forefront like even though we're
- 8:54paying them less behind the scenes but they wanted
- 8:58fights they wanted them cheap mvpw could oblige
- 9:02uh oh yeah uh xander zayas you're not you're
- 9:07gonna you get like fucking like three to five
- 9:10women's fights for the cost of xander zayas the
- 9:13unified champ right so that's what i think is
- 9:17happening here I think Shanada put it nicely
- 9:20when she said, like, it's unfortunate that they
- 9:23went this route because even as much as we try
- 9:29to shill for them, women's fights are often pretty
- 9:33fucking mid. Oh, yeah. It's unfortunate. It's
- 9:37just reality. What they could have done is signed
- 9:43Probox. That's... You want... competitive matchups.
- 9:49You want entertaining fights. You want big knockouts.
- 9:53That's the shit that you want for ESPN. Probox
- 9:57delivers all of that. Poo -poo. Oh, man. Speaking
- 10:05of top rank, they signed Sammy Contreras, 5 -0
- 10:11pro. Amateur standout. He had like, I lost count.
- 10:15They said like 15 national championships or whatever.
- 10:19They signed him to a multi -year deal. The only
- 10:22reason I bring this up is that Top Rank doesn't
- 10:24have a fucking broadcast deal yet. Why? Sammy,
- 10:30bro. What are you doing, dude? And he got 2B.
- 10:35Yeah, you're fighting on fucking Tubi? Is that
- 10:37what you're... Tubi's got to share the air with,
- 10:41what's it called? Swerve TV. They just put on
- 10:45their Teen Titans, bro. All the shit they're
- 10:50putting on Tubi. It's either this or Swerve TV,
- 10:53dude. Yeah, it's... I know that American promoters
- 10:58are like... It's a dumpster fire right now. But
- 11:02of... The various dumpsters and their fires.
- 11:07Top Rank, I would say, is the fiercest blaze
- 11:12at the moment. And that's the one you sign with.
- 11:15I don't know. Maybe you grew up watching Bob
- 11:20Arum. Yeah, you watch Thursday Night Fights.
- 11:24There has to be some reason that he decided to
- 11:27go with Top Rank. Maybe they're the only ones
- 11:31that were going to sign him. I don't know. Maybe
- 11:33we should hit him up and see what's up. Yeah,
- 11:36we should ask him. We should give it a shot.
- 11:40Because this is an odd... It's an interesting
- 11:43move. And I'm curious what the thought process
- 11:47is. Huh. Interesting thought processes. Tim Zhu
- 11:52will be facing Dennis Nuria in Australia on April
- 11:575th. This is leading up to the Errol Spence fight.
- 12:03Fucking upside down people, man. Albanian middleweight.
- 12:10I'm looking for a lifeline here. Can somebody
- 12:14give me something here? Which one? Tim Zu and
- 12:21Denis Nouria. No. I'm not. No. No. No. Thank
- 12:29you. I will continue drowning. No, thanks. Move
- 12:34on. All right. Moving on. Jason Maloney will
- 12:41be facing - No, that's not how you spelled it.
- 12:44I was going to get to that. Jason Maloney will
- 12:47be facing Andre Donovan on April 23rd. Fucking
- 12:52the baloniest of the baloney brothers is just
- 12:56still doing it. He signed with Tasman Fighters,
- 13:00who notoriously our favorite cruiserweight is
- 13:07affiliated with them. We'll be talking about
- 13:09him in a moment. But Jason Maloney, like, bro,
- 13:14you got your ass fucking taken to school by Tenshin
- 13:17Asakawa. You might want to read that. Shinada
- 13:21has more to say about this than us. Yes. She
- 13:25was actually like... Is this the guy who got,
- 13:28like, beat by tension? I was like, yep, that's
- 13:31the one. She's like, Jesus Christ. I can't defend
- 13:35him. Yep. There you go. Jason Bologna, still
- 13:42doing it. Speaking of Bologna brothers, IBF champ
- 13:47Willy Baldo Garcia will be facing his mandatory
- 13:51challenger, Andrew Maloney. The purse bid was
- 13:57won by the Kameda Brothers. So, Andrew Bologna
- 14:01getting a fucking title shot. Before Virgil.
- 14:09Man, can y 'all shut up, brothers? It gets funnier
- 14:13every week, dude. It really does get better every
- 14:17time. It does, but it feels worse. extends beyond
- 14:23parody. It's even funnier that he still doesn't
- 14:28have a belt. He hasn't even fought for one. Honestly,
- 14:33that's the harder part. Currently, his career
- 14:38is in a shitty state right now. I get it. It's
- 14:45a bad time right now, but all the time before
- 14:48that... His career looks like... If you just
- 14:52ignore his record, the way his career looks like
- 14:54is that he lost the title challenge and then
- 14:56is having trouble getting on that path back.
- 14:59But no, he just never got in the ring for one.
- 15:04Interims do not count. And that's what kills
- 15:07me. That's what kills me. Every week you'll see
- 15:09the worst fighter you've ever heard of so far
- 15:12yet is either fighting for a belt or has a belt.
- 15:18But this guy still, no. No, he's in court, actually.
- 15:22Fighting for the right to lose to a guy who doesn't
- 15:25have a belt. Well, I will say this. He will get
- 15:32a belt after he beats Sebastian Van Doren if
- 15:36he ever gets that fight. That's all I'm going
- 15:38to say. You know what? I'm sure Virgil's just
- 15:45this bit. It's the Joel Embiid conference finals
- 15:49bit because it's the gift that never stops giving.
- 15:56Do you remember Andrew Maloney versus Junto Nakatani?
- 16:04Oh, that's one of my favorite highlights. Knockout
- 16:08of the year. My knockout of the year. Just erased
- 16:12him. Yeah. He fought for and lost a title, has
- 16:18since rebuilt his career, and is getting a title
- 16:22shot. And Virgil is in arbitration. It is a difficult
- 16:31time. Moving on. Boxing guys ate us. Just the
- 16:40Virgil bros, unfortunately. Just Virgil bros.
- 16:45WBA orders Floyd Schofield versus Lucas Body
- 16:49for their vacant title. Let's fucking go. Yeah,
- 16:57Saul, let it rip. What do you got for Schofield?
- 17:01Did they ever say what day it was going to be
- 17:02on? I have not seen. Because I hope it's going
- 17:09to be nearby. I would love to go watch that fight.
- 17:14Is Scofield local to you? No, no, no, no, no,
- 17:17not at all, not at all. I just want to see him
- 17:20fight. Just because I've been glazing him like
- 17:22crazy. Yeah, for the love of the game, I've been
- 17:25glazing him like crazy, so. Bring a USB -C cable.
- 17:31Right up the nose. I'll tell you, I'll tell you
- 17:37this. You need to stop standing fighters, I'm
- 17:40realizing. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I'm standing
- 17:45Floyd Schofield. And I'm standing... First of
- 17:49all, I stand Brian Norman Jr. because that's
- 17:51kind of how I got onto this podcast. It's gone
- 17:53wrong. It's just gone wrong every time you stand
- 17:55a guy. Hey, hey, hey. Hold up, hold up, hold
- 17:58up. Floyd Schofield hasn't lost yet. He just
- 18:01pulled out twice. And he's only pulled... Virgil
- 18:05hasn't lost. Floyd Schofield hasn't lost. And
- 18:08Schofield is fighting for a world title, it seems.
- 18:11And he's probably going to win. If he gets into
- 18:15the ring, yes. That's what I wanted to ask you,
- 18:18is Lucas Body has been bailed out with some thunderous
- 18:23fucking knockouts. Can the very sick, poisoned,
- 18:29decrepit Schofield survive that? Hey, who does
- 18:34Tim Farmer like that? Who does Devin Farmer like
- 18:37that? Jojo Diaz. Not really. Not like that. But,
- 18:48no, I stand these fighters, especially Brian
- 18:50Norman Jr., because that's how I got into this
- 18:52podcast, was standing Brian Norman Jr. and trying
- 18:54to defend him to Leo. And it worked for a while.
- 18:58I want to offer something that, number one, it's
- 19:03twofold, two sides of the same coin. Number one.
- 19:07The fact that you stand these guys, just win
- 19:10or lose, you still ride for them, like, yes,
- 19:15absolutely. Or, on the other side of things,
- 19:20if you were standing them and reality didn't
- 19:25turn in their favor, you learn things, you grow
- 19:28from things, maybe your perspectives change.
- 19:31Either way, either stand firm, with what you're
- 19:37with your guy or if you're gonna ditch him then
- 19:41admit that you you know you were like mistaken
- 19:44all of the these two things were what I proffered
- 19:50to Nova Scotia boxing that that's all I was saying
- 19:58to him was like dude you're fucking writing for
- 20:01for uh galalia fi dude are you serious right
- 20:06now and and he's like he's trying to act like
- 20:13he didn't like he wasn't and then i'm like bro
- 20:16either stand with your guy or admit you were
- 20:19wrong either way i like i i really don't want
- 20:25to make a fucking big deal about this it's galalia
- 20:27fire you're fucking kidding me but That is neither
- 20:32here nor there. Floyd Schofield, Lucas Body.
- 20:35What are we going to do to celebrate Schofield's
- 20:40ascension to world champion? I'm going to go
- 20:44on the podcast and celebrate. If he wins. I'm
- 20:48going to make another joke about Virgil Ortiz.
- 20:51Floyd Schofield, champion for Virgil Ortiz. Champion.
- 20:55That's the highlight. I mean, honestly, if...
- 20:59To your point that you said right now, Leo, about
- 21:01standing by your fighter. I'm just saying. Hamza
- 21:07Shiraz lost to Carlos Adamis and everybody dipped.
- 21:10He won. Everybody came back. When he beat Berlanga?
- 21:15Yeah, when he beat Berlanga. The same. They all
- 21:18got the chip. They called him a shitter. He knocked
- 21:21out fucking Berlanga and everybody called him
- 21:23the king. It's because we hate Berlanga. I shat
- 21:26more on Adamis than I did Shiraz. I honestly
- 21:30felt that Shiraz was a little weight -drained.
- 21:33I knew O'Donnell was going to win. I just knew.
- 21:38Well, he's the house guy. Quote -unquote house
- 21:41guy, right? Yeah. He didn't win, but he won.
- 21:45Right. He didn't win, but he won. Yeah. He got
- 21:49a draw, but same reason why Lamont Roach lost.
- 21:52Or had a draw twice. Yeah. I'll tell you this,
- 21:56though. Go back to Floyd Schofield. Versus Lucas
- 21:59Body. I mean, you're right. Lucas Body is a knockout
- 22:01puncher. Floyd Schofield, I would say, at the
- 22:05top level, isn't as experienced. I mean, he should
- 22:10have had a JoJo Diaz. He has a Tevin Farmer,
- 22:13but, I mean, Tevin Farmer's lost how many times?
- 22:16Seven times, I believe? A lot of those are early
- 22:20in his career. Four of them were before anybody
- 22:22even knew who he was. Yeah, like, after the first
- 22:25four, like, those... That's when we start counting
- 22:28is the after four. Losses that actually represent
- 22:33him as a fighter. Marquez lost one of his early
- 22:37fights. Estrada lost one of his early fights.
- 22:40Just two of my personal favorites. I think the
- 22:43Jose Pedraza loss onward is when we start counting
- 22:47his... Yeah, Pedraza's a legitimate loss. Losing
- 22:51your debut by like... Losing your debut, losing
- 22:55on points, drawing, like all these are like,
- 22:57yeah. Marquez lost his debut. Whatever, dude.
- 23:02Nobody cares. And honestly, yeah, you're right.
- 23:07You're right. It happens. But, I mean, still.
- 23:09I mean, Farmer in recent years still hasn't done
- 23:12much. I mean, he fought Zepeda, and he arguably
- 23:15beat Zepeda twice. Schofield knocked him out.
- 23:18That's the best you can measure to him. Schofield
- 23:22also has fought Rene Guiron, right? They were
- 23:29calling him a bum, but now he's on Pro Box, right?
- 23:32Doing good things on Pro Box. Yeah, he's doing
- 23:35good things on Pro Box. I feel like that win
- 23:37is aging pretty decent. I would like to know
- 23:43what poison Schofield beat, because that should
- 23:48be a dub on his record. Is it a hemlock? Cyanide?
- 23:55Oh, my God. Just straight anthrax from Shakur
- 23:59Stevenson's camp? You think they could afford
- 24:01that? Something, dude. But, I mean, not just
- 24:09that, but he would have fucking beat Jojo Diaz.
- 24:13Pedro Diaz. I mean, that one was kind of rough
- 24:18to see, but... I mean, I'm... I don't think it's
- 24:21rough to see Pedro Diaz go down like that. No,
- 24:25I'm saying it's rough to see Jojo Diaz live to
- 24:27see another day. Oh, you're right, actually.
- 24:30Because Schofield would have knocked him the
- 24:32fuck out. Oh, yeah. No, no, that's fair. I feel
- 24:37like this fight's probably going to be on a Ryan
- 24:38Garcia card. Probably going to be co -main. Who
- 24:41promotes Schofield? Golden Boy. Oh, no. He's
- 24:46the last man standing on Oscar's table. Yeah,
- 24:50he's like their elite prospect turning contender
- 24:55guy. Yeah. Fuck, dude. Man, poison yourself again
- 25:01and, like, run out your contract. Oh, man. No,
- 25:11but he's right. You're right. Whatever it takes
- 25:14to get out of that umbrella. Make sure you get
- 25:20the measurements right so that you don't die.
- 25:23I think seniors got it right after the first
- 25:27time. Well calculated. All right, moving on.
- 25:33WBC orders Dalton Smith versus Alberto Puello
- 25:37for his first defense. Man, that's a stiff challenge
- 25:41for Smith. No shit. That's a tough first defense.
- 25:49Hindsight being 20 -20. Before that, we were
- 25:55thinking Dalton Smith is heading into the fucking
- 25:57fire. And now, he's out of the fire and into
- 26:02the fucking frying pan. It's just a stylistic
- 26:05challenge that is not entirely welcome. I mean,
- 26:11it depends on what card he's on. You know, if
- 26:14he's on a, you know, PBC or if it's on Matchroom.
- 26:19Whichever one. They're not going to rig the fight
- 26:24for Pueyo. Well, Premier Boxing Copium would.
- 26:31Yeah. It's Alberto Pueyo, dude. Who's Dalton
- 26:34Smith with? Is he Matchroom? Yeah, he is Matchroom.
- 26:37That's right. Eddie was at the fight. What I
- 26:43will say with Don Smith is I do want him to win.
- 26:47As much as it pains me to root for a Brit, I
- 26:51do like seeing the underdog come up and beat
- 26:55everybody else. That's funny. That's funny and
- 26:58it's inspiring. You know what, man? I wish him
- 27:01great success as long as Virgil doesn't become
- 27:03a champ. So that way... This guy's having fun
- 27:08with it. I'm having so much fun today because
- 27:10there's so much ridiculous bullshit that's gone
- 27:14on lately. Like a Brit knocking out Matthias.
- 27:20A Brit. A Brit winning against the boogeyman.
- 27:26The boogeyman. When does that actually happen?
- 27:30It's a British year. Except Nick Ball. We don't
- 27:33talk about Nick Ball. He was a sacrifice. He
- 27:36was a sacrifice to the boxing gods. Ball was
- 27:40sacrificed for ball. I said the same thing last
- 27:48week to Shanada about Dalton Smith was the plucky
- 27:55upstart. Again, hindsight is 20 -20, but going
- 28:00into the Matias fight, we're like, this fucking
- 28:03kid's about to get... sent back on a stretcher
- 28:06like on a hospital ship he's gonna be sent back
- 28:09to the uk but nope he upset the apple cart in
- 28:14a big way it would be super cool to see him continue
- 28:18that against uh like matthias stylistically it
- 28:26can be beaten like as we saw when his chin just
- 28:31doesn't hold up anymore Alberto Pueyo, stylistically,
- 28:34is a fucking nightmare for Dalton Smith. So that's
- 28:41why I don't want to root against my fellow Latino,
- 28:47but Dalton Smith, like, man, prayers up, dude.
- 28:51I hope you keep doing it. Just keep letting them
- 28:56put people you're not supposed to beat in front
- 28:59of you and just keep fucking beating them. That
- 29:04would just be great for me. Yeah, honestly, this
- 29:07might be the first couple times that I'm actually
- 29:12rooting for a Brit. This is a Brit story I can
- 29:15get behind. Oh, yeah. Moving to another WBC fight.
- 29:24WBC has sanctioned Lamont Roach versus William
- 29:28Zepeda for their vacant title. fucking lamont
- 29:33roach williams zapata were not like the one and
- 29:37two but they petitioned yeah they petitioned
- 29:41like we're making we're gonna make this fight
- 29:43will you accept this as your vacant title fight
- 29:47and what do you know lamont roach williams zapata
- 29:51is it shrimp time or is it roach time is it ocean
- 29:55roach or ground roach I think we're going to
- 30:00see a third consecutive draw where I once again
- 30:03go on a little diatribe about scoring after it's
- 30:06done. And then we call for the death of judges
- 30:09that we're going to see like one consistent judge
- 30:12in all three of Roach's fucking draws. Let me
- 30:16see. Let me see. Let me see. Yeah, please do.
- 30:19Please do. So far. No, there hasn't been a consistent
- 30:22judge. Oh, shit. Not yet. Well, I guess I can't
- 30:25send death threats to anyone. Never mind. Well,
- 30:29you can, but... Yes, I can, but... You always
- 30:31can. Don't let your memes be dreams. Literally.
- 30:38I got a question for y 'all. My thing is, didn't
- 30:44they... This is all caused by the WBC shenanigans
- 30:48with Stephen Fulton, right? With Shakur. It's
- 30:52Shakur. Well, Stephen Fulton... Fight being that
- 30:55they gave the interim to Oshaki Foster. It wouldn't
- 30:58have happened if Fulton wasn't a fatty, though.
- 31:02Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, I mean, I don't
- 31:05know. Honestly, that's going to be a good fight.
- 31:07But I don't think either guy deserved it. I feel
- 31:10like, at the very least, William Cepeda should
- 31:12have at least had a comeback fight to earn the
- 31:15vacant title match. Lamont Roach fought at 140.
- 31:18He has not fought for the WBC. At all. He fought
- 31:23for the interim 140 with Pitbull. Oh, I thought
- 31:29that was WBA. No, WBC. No. Oh, never mind. I'm
- 31:32silly. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. Yeah, WBA strip
- 31:38tank. That is very awkward. Sorry about that.
- 31:43That makes more sense now. But what I will say
- 31:46is it's going to be a good fight that Lamont
- 31:48Roche should win. That's where I'm landing as
- 31:51well. The ground roach should be the water roach.
- 31:58Ground roach? The pit is just a weaker pit bull.
- 32:01Shrimp. Camaron. It's a little ocean bug. Oh,
- 32:05man. The thing is, though, I just think roach
- 32:08has a very judge -unfriendly style. I brought
- 32:11this up before. You have. Like, he just... He
- 32:16has to be so... I don't think he has it in him
- 32:19to be dominant either. I mean, in his last two
- 32:23fights... I think he can. Like, he wins fights.
- 32:26He could win fights clearly. It's just that,
- 32:29like, being that dominant and assertive in order
- 32:32to, like, very clearly win rounds instead of
- 32:35stealing them every time is not... It's not his
- 32:39MO. It takes two rounds to... Two or three rounds
- 32:43to even... Figure out the opponent. He just kind
- 32:46of gives away the first couple rounds. Just the
- 32:50way he looks. You can just feel like. He's edging
- 32:54the rounds. Instead of. I think where this. This
- 32:59makes sense. In the Pitbull fight. But where
- 33:03I think it doesn't. Is against Tank. Where I
- 33:08think Roach. Absolutely did enough. To clearly
- 33:12win rounds. but it's Gervonta Davis. You're not
- 33:17gonna... Yeah, like, I need him steamrolling
- 33:20guys instead of just, you know, outboxing them.
- 33:26Clearly to us, with a great view of it, but not
- 33:30so clearly to... Yeah, to the judges who are
- 33:32sitting in one spot. Especially if he's a catch
- 33:37-and -shoot guy. I've always brought up he's
- 33:38a catch -and -shoot guy. So, if you're watching
- 33:42this back... If you're watching his back, it
- 33:44looks like he's getting clubbed. And even if
- 33:47you have it from the proper angle, he's still
- 33:50taking one to throw one. So how much do you gauge?
- 33:54How do you judge your value judgment? A punch
- 33:59that appears to maybe have glanced past the guard,
- 34:04but... there's one thrown back. Like, yeah, how
- 34:09do you... Especially if Roach misses that shot.
- 34:11Right, right, right. How do you judge the defense
- 34:13versus an ineffective... Like, technically, Roach
- 34:17is the one being ineffective here. He got hit
- 34:19glancingly, barely, but then he missed. He missed
- 34:22the follow -up. So, from our view, yeah, he's
- 34:27a more complete boxer here. He's definitely getting
- 34:31it on the guy, but... So... Like, so what, almost.
- 34:40Yeah. Hmm. Well, keeping things at 135, this
- 34:51is... Ring Magazine has sanctioned Caroline Dubois
- 34:57vs. Terry Harper for the vacant 135 ring title.
- 35:04This is less about the... the fighters. It's
- 35:10more about is the ring title a fucking title?
- 35:18Are we in a fucking five belt era? Have we always
- 35:23had that plus one? That plus one that just sits
- 35:28in the background? What the fuck, man? Is ring
- 35:30magazine, is that a fucking title or is it not?
- 35:43You want to hear all that chatter? Then you're
- 35:45going to have to fucking pony up some dough for
- 35:48it. Because that was a good conversation. Oh,
- 35:52yeah. Last bit. Tyson Fury versus Arsalanbek
- 35:55Makhmudov. Oh, we're still in the news. Damn.
- 35:57Yeah, we are. The undercard has been announced.
- 36:02Co -main. Conor Benn versus Regis Progray. The
- 36:05$15 million boy fights at 150 catchweight against
- 36:11what the fuck Regis Progray. I hope you're getting
- 36:15paid, buddy. I'm rooting for Regis. I am too.
- 36:21One last time. I want this to backfire. It'd
- 36:24be so funny. It'd be too funny, man. Jamie Chikeva
- 36:31versus Richard Riekpore. the British heavyweight
- 36:35title on the line. Frazier Clark versus Justice
- 36:39Hooney, a heavyweight fight. We'll see if Frazier
- 36:42Clark can replicate the Fabio Wardley success.
- 36:48Troy Williamson versus Simon Zakenhuber. Brayon
- 36:53Gorham versus Eduard Georgiev. Mikey Talon versus
- 36:57Christopher Rios. Felix Cash versus Liam O 'Hare.
- 37:01Hector Lozano versus Sultan Al -Muhammad. Fucking
- 37:06Saudi guy. And Elliott Whale versus Tom Hill.
- 37:11Pretty lackluster undercard. Conor Benn included.
- 37:19Lackluster. What Shanada and I had talked about
- 37:26was none of these guys. bringing value to this
- 37:32event. Anybody who is tuning in to see Tyson
- 37:35Fury would tune in to watch any of these guys
- 37:39on their own events. This doesn't really add
- 37:44anything. There you have it. Anything more for
- 37:54the news? Alright. Let's see here. Kevin Lorena.
- 38:01Bridger Waite, if you remember. Lorena, that's
- 38:04a name I haven't heard in a while. Closer to
- 38:09beating Daniel Dubois than Anthony Joshua, Kevin
- 38:12Lorena. It's true. It is. Dubois like Taurus
- 38:21ACL in that fight. One -legged Dubois. Yeah.
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- 40:58All right. Into the recaps. Thursday, March 5th.
- 41:07Eye of the Tiger on DAZN. Man, I only kept the
- 41:13good stuff. And there was actually quite a bit
- 41:17of it. For an Eye of the Tiger card, not bad.
- 41:19That's true. This actually wasn't that bad. Not
- 41:21bad. Steve Claggett gets a big stoppage over
- 41:25Alejandro Frias. Homeboy came in. Steve Claggett
- 41:32was TBA less than five days before the event.
- 41:37So take it with a grain of salt. John Orobio
- 41:42KO5 over Yomar Alamo. That was fun. uh arobio
- 41:49is supposed to be like a good prospect um i i
- 41:53know i've seen him fight a few times but like
- 41:56you're crushing cans on eye of the tiger dude
- 41:59um we're gonna have to we're gonna have to step
- 42:03up the competition here um leonard perez ud over
- 42:10isaac chalemba robbery i don't watch it robbery
- 42:15this is an instant instance where i i was uh
- 42:22like i was talking to you guys before about getting
- 42:25more active on social media like with scoring
- 42:28being involved on fight nights this was a case
- 42:33where i was having good engagement where it was
- 42:37like leonard perez is supposed to be a super
- 42:39awesome cruiserweight prospect or whatever how
- 42:43the fuck are you not finishing isaac chalemba
- 42:45in 2026 Maybe we need to... Maybe we need to
- 42:52rethink some things. He's gotta go to Zusa. I
- 42:57don't know, maybe... Chilumba had the shield
- 42:59over his face. The liquid shield? The liquid
- 43:05shield? I don't know, it's hard to knock a guy
- 43:07out when your punches are slipping off his face.
- 43:14To be... To be fair, Perez... Was dominant throughout
- 43:20the entire fight. Chalemba. As they say in Discord.
- 43:25He has. Experienced being washed. So he has those.
- 43:31Like those survival tactics. The dirty veteran.
- 43:35Avoid. Confrontation kind of tactics. So yeah.
- 43:42That's being fair. To Perez. But. I don't feel
- 43:48like being fair to Perez. He should have done
- 43:51better. Yeah, should have. How dare you do that
- 43:54to my goat, Chalemba? Think about this. A particular
- 43:59cruiserweight gentleman that we will be discussing
- 44:01in a moment had a similar situation play out.
- 44:07Oh, you're right, actually. So maybe we need
- 44:09to dial it back on the Perez hate. I need to
- 44:12dial it back. You need to dial it back. I do.
- 44:15I'm hating for a different reason. Yeah, Goop
- 44:19Face made it work. Congrats. Whatever gets you
- 44:23paid, buddy. And minimal damage, too. In the
- 44:30main event, Stephen Butler knocks out Ramadan
- 44:33Hiseni in two. That's all she wrote for Eye of
- 44:40the Tiger. I had said when... We were previewing
- 44:47this weekend that there was not a lot of boxing
- 44:51on. And I stand by that. There was some lower
- 44:57level shit. Which, of course, I didn't update
- 45:03my doc. Because I'm professional. I'm really
- 45:07good at this. Did you know that I got a magazine
- 45:10interview about how professional I am? That's
- 45:15because you're awesome, dude. Yeah, I'm fucking
- 45:18excellent. Let's see here. Angel Ureña got a
- 45:25UD over Roy Casanova. That one was actually pretty
- 45:29goddamn fun. It was like a crossfade. In the
- 45:38first six, Ureña was like... the guy, and then
- 45:45it faded the last six. It was a 10 -round fight.
- 45:50The one round was a crossfade, and Casanova kind
- 45:53of stepped it up. It was pretty cool. Good fight.
- 45:57And Haciel Amador, UD over Pedro Delgado. I think
- 46:04that was a regional title. Both of those were
- 46:10regional titles, actually. Moving on. Box Stars
- 46:14on ESPN KO in Netzahualcoyotl. Look at that.
- 46:22I'm good at that shit. In Mexico, Mauricio Lara
- 46:27stops Rafael Rosas in two. Shit was not even
- 46:33competitive. But it was bronco, so I was here
- 46:38for it. MF Pro on DAZN. This was in Derby, UK.
- 46:48Ty Mitchell. I don't know who this fucking guy
- 46:52is. He's apparently some social media person.
- 46:56He beat Gabe Rosado in a six -round contest.
- 47:02Gabe fucking Rosado, guys. Gabe. Rosado. This
- 47:06was his Misfits debut. It's a separate tab on
- 47:11BoxRec. It's a separate tab. Misfits Pro, which
- 47:14is hilarious. Fucking nuts, huh? Yeah. I genuinely
- 47:22think this might be conspiracy tinfoil shit,
- 47:26but I think Gabe is being brought in to be beaten
- 47:32by these guys. He's like Benito Sanchez. Oh,
- 47:37my God. You're right. The fear of a real pro
- 47:40fighter, except it's Gabe Rosado. Right. He'll
- 47:43give you some good work, but you're going to
- 47:47beat him. All you got to do is just stay confident,
- 47:50and he will make sure that you stay confident,
- 47:54because that was a fucking ass fight. I am a
- 47:58bit ashamed of myself that I watched all six
- 48:01rounds. You watched it? I did. I did. I wanted
- 48:06to make sure, like, what is Gabe doing here?
- 48:10Like, why are you here? Are you here to fucking
- 48:12knock out these social media kids? Because I'm
- 48:15down for that. You live by the motherfucking
- 48:19sword, you die by the motherfucking sword. Yeah,
- 48:21straight up. That is exactly what is happening.
- 48:24But enough of that. Sunday, March 8th. Happy
- 48:29birthday to my sister. Zufa Boxing 4 at the Meta
- 48:34Apex. There were, moving up from the bottom,
- 48:42what stood out? The first ever majority draw
- 48:47on Zufa, Brady Ochoa. How's your name, Ochoa,
- 48:52but your first name is Brady? Interesting. Pick
- 48:57a lane, dude. Anyway, Adrian Serrano. And then
- 49:02there was another majority draw. Jacob Ramos
- 49:04versus Ethan Perez. Vlad Panin stops Shannard
- 49:10Bunch in nine. It was... I honestly felt like
- 49:17they were making excuses for Shannard the whole
- 49:22time. They were... Man, this... I'm not trying
- 49:25to knock the guy. I honestly can't imagine. The
- 49:30difficulties that he had to endure. Like they
- 49:33were talking about. Like his father was murdered.
- 49:35And stuff. Like bro. If you. It's clear that
- 49:45you need more time. And that's okay. You didn't.
- 49:52Yeah. Just. Go deal with that shit, dude. That's
- 49:58more important. Moving up, the co -main Ricardo
- 50:04Salas stops Jesus Saracho in eight. This one
- 50:09was actually pretty fun. Hmm. Josh, are you prepared?
- 50:19Do you have... your finest glass of aged haterade
- 50:26ready oh my god i've had it i have had it because
- 50:30i've been waiting for saul to get on jai opataya
- 50:33sorry about that guys ud over brandon glanton
- 50:38ibf cruiserweight title was not on the line the
- 50:43zufa cruiser cruiserweight title was on the line
- 50:48here Josh, kick it off. Dunk on Opitaya as best
- 50:53you can. Oh my god, he's retarded. In the ring,
- 50:57out of it? Oh my god. The shit with the IVF.
- 51:03The IVF was so clear when Zufa showed up. Hey,
- 51:06if you try and put that piece of shit belt next
- 51:10to ours, we're gonna strip you. Not necessarily.
- 51:14It was if you tried to make that piece of shit
- 51:17more important. than ours yes then it was so
- 51:21clear and then all the promotion and then like
- 51:24jai not getting it we're like dude if you're
- 51:28you're calling the zufa one like your whole promotion's
- 51:33calling the zufa one the belt the belt the belt
- 51:35oh yeah the ibf is here too like come on oh yeah
- 51:39that red fucking thing over there oh yeah like
- 51:42like yeah no they're gonna strip you you're fighting
- 51:46a bum They're going to strip you. It's the IDF.
- 51:49They don't fuck around. They do not. Like, oh,
- 51:53Glanton was in the top 10. Like, so what? This
- 51:55isn't the WBC. This isn't the WBC. They're going
- 51:59to strip you. And then you get in the ring and
- 52:03just, oh, my God. You don't get them out of there.
- 52:06You spend the whole time flopping on your ass.
- 52:10It was just like you wasted the fans' time, you
- 52:15wasted your own time, and now you're going to
- 52:19continue begging for fights with belt holders
- 52:22when you're with the promotional company that
- 52:25explicitly doesn't deal with the belt orgs. You
- 52:29lost all your leverage. As a mission statement.
- 52:33Yeah, he gave up his leverage signing with them.
- 52:37And, like, the big thing is, like, he got asked
- 52:40about moving up to heavyweight. And, you know,
- 52:42historically, cruiserweights, if they are good
- 52:45enough to go to heavyweight, they do. They kept
- 52:49saying Usyk, Holyfield, trying to make him be
- 52:53a part of that conversation. Like, he is, like,
- 52:56the third in the trio. Like, fuck no. Yeah, but,
- 52:58like, even if they are not the best at the cruiserweight
- 53:02division, they move up. So what does it say that
- 53:06this guy doesn't feel great moving up? I want
- 53:09to be undisputed. Yeah, like, his big thing is
- 53:12having a size advantage at cruiserweight, and
- 53:14if he goes to heavyweight, it vanishes. And he's
- 53:17not good enough to be able to compete at heavyweight.
- 53:19No, like, he's not skilled enough. I mean, two
- 53:23of his, like, slips were footwork mistakes. glanton
- 53:28did like sure whatever glanton hit him in the
- 53:31nuts a couple times two of the slips were footwork
- 53:34mistakes can i so i want to posit something he's
- 53:38shorter than he's dave allen's height is he for
- 53:41the record of his size he is dave allen's height
- 53:44and about half the weight so jesus christ like
- 53:50he's not cutting it heavyweight if he's tripping
- 53:52over his own feet pivoting away from brandon
- 53:56glanton What if Chaya Pattaya, for whatever reason,
- 54:07just decides he's going to move up? It's really
- 54:13clear, as you pointed out, he is the same size
- 54:16as Dave Allen. And if he were to move up that
- 54:21high, he would just be fat as fuck. What if he
- 54:26made... Zufa recognized the Bridgerweight division.
- 54:31Oh my god. I'm crying. I'm crying, dude. That
- 54:35is crazy. I would send Jai Obataya flowers. Like,
- 54:41thank you for continuing to fuck up that organization.
- 54:44He's gotta be doing this on purpose. Yeah, you
- 54:47have to be. He's wasting the rest of his career
- 54:49tanking Zufa. He's the sacrificial lamb. I would
- 54:55set up a Patreon to donate money to him to make
- 54:58up for his lost wages. Because the big thing
- 55:02I've seen people, the remote people on Twitter
- 55:05defending Jai is like, oh, he's making the money
- 55:08he can because Cruiserweight's a poverty division.
- 55:11And I'm like, that's why you move up. You move
- 55:15up if you're good to make the real money. That's
- 55:17just Cruiserweight. Zerdo Benavidez are getting
- 55:19paid. Yeah, too. You fight guys that are worth
- 55:22it or you move up and get paid. Yeah. And then
- 55:24there's the, oh, he has the heart to hang in
- 55:27there with anyone. Like, Maris Bredis broke his
- 55:30jaw twice. They made it very fucking clear. At
- 55:33the tender age of, hold on, how old is this?
- 55:37At the tender age of 38 and 39. How old was Zopatai
- 55:45at the time? Like, 26. I feel bad for him. That's
- 55:50what I mean. Because it's like, I saw it, like,
- 55:52again. Like, a lot of the discourse is, we give
- 55:55Usyk credit for his victory over Bredis, and
- 55:57I'm like, that was Bredis at, like, that was
- 55:59Bredis 10 years ago. That was 10 years before.
- 56:02Are you fucking high? He was 31, and Usyk not
- 56:08only beat him, he beat Gassiev, he beat Huck,
- 56:11he beat Michael Hunter, and then moved up and
- 56:13became the best heavyweight of, like, basically
- 56:15two generations. He capped it off with Tony fucking
- 56:18Bell. He became the generation. He became the
- 56:21generation at heavyweight. Yeah. So what are,
- 56:24like, so then why are we getting, like, yeah,
- 56:28then 10 years on, this prime specimen should
- 56:32roll him, right? Max Kellerman's creaming his
- 56:38pants at a guy who can't get Morris Bredis, age
- 56:4230, age 41, out of here. He was creaming his
- 56:48pants that he went the distance, that he got
- 56:50his jaw broken and went the distance. I can't
- 56:54imagine getting punched in the mouth when your
- 56:56jaw's already broken. But, like, bro, you're
- 56:58getting your jaw broken by a 40 -year -old man.
- 57:00And you're supposed to be the best cruiserweight
- 57:02on the planet. I'm a little confused. Myrus Bredis.
- 57:11We went through it in Discord. After Usyk. Usyk
- 57:16Belyu. That was his last fight at Cruiser. And
- 57:20after that, like, we were tracing the path of
- 57:24all the titles, and it was Bredis Dortikos was
- 57:30the reestablishment of the quote -unquote lineage.
- 57:34Yeah. So, yeah. That fight was not great. No.
- 57:39Having watched it, having watched it live, that
- 57:42fight was not great. It was... What? I don't
- 57:49know. I'm torn on Obataya. Like 90 % of me really
- 57:56wants to just fucking dunk on him every chance
- 57:58I get. But another part of me thinks he's a dumb
- 58:03fuck Islander kid that just came up in Australia.
- 58:10So he's kind of getting pulled in a lot of different
- 58:12directions and kind of being taken advantage
- 58:15of is what I think is happening. Yeah, but part
- 58:19of it is you have to read. Right. You have to
- 58:23read. There's a difference between you being
- 58:27shuffled around in the back, but we can see it,
- 58:31which means he should obviously be able to see
- 58:34it and read. All he had to do was say, I'm the
- 58:39IBF champ. And not, I'm fighting for the prestigious
- 58:43Zufa belt. The inaugural Zufa belt. So much lineage
- 58:48there, right? Because you're the lineal champion.
- 58:52You have to read. You have to read. You have
- 58:58to know. Get a lawyer, bro. You got money. I
- 59:05hate the sob stories on Twitter of like, oh,
- 59:08he's just maximizing his value. You can go to
- 59:10heavyweight and do that. You can go to heavyweight
- 59:16and do Lawrence or Coley circuit. The thing is
- 59:18that it's not like he's boxing AIDS or Coley.
- 59:23People would show up to watch him beat up on
- 59:26guys at heavyweight. Did you say boxing AIDS?
- 59:31Yes. Like a Lawrence Acoli. I got to support
- 59:35that term. No one wants Acoli. Like Opetiah,
- 59:41you get the exciting knockout artist who's moving
- 59:44up the heavyweight. Alleged knockout artist.
- 59:48He can make good money. If he stayed out of Zufa.
- 59:51Go to the UK and take out a couple of the domestic
- 59:55Brits and you have a hype train. He had a title.
- 1:00:01And if you want to dispute it, he probably could
- 1:00:03have gotten money from fighting Zerto or from
- 1:00:05fighting Benavides. Eventually. He could have
- 1:00:08gotten money fighting Mikaelian. I'm not even
- 1:00:13saying Zerto. Zerto, let's say, okay, Zerto promotional.
- 1:00:18He's not a powerhouse. No. But, like, whatever.
- 1:00:23Better than Glenn. Let's say. Let's say we're
- 1:00:26having issues getting a fight with Zerto. Like,
- 1:00:29come on. You can get fights that aren't complete
- 1:00:35dog shit. I would like to take a moment to just
- 1:00:41give a little high five to Brandon Glanton. Like,
- 1:00:46you went the distance with this, uh, the alleged...
- 1:00:50Number one cruiserweight fucking of all time
- 1:00:53ever. All time great cruiserweight. Fucking greatest
- 1:00:57of all cruiserweight times. You went the distance
- 1:01:00with him. Yeah, the boogeyman, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:01:04You went the distance. I hope you're not locked
- 1:01:08in to Zufa because I honestly think he could
- 1:01:14pivot this into some decent work. with the other
- 1:01:20cruiserweight people. Like, Mikaelian, like,
- 1:01:24fuck Mikaelian, but, like, you could... Shit,
- 1:01:27dude, you might be able to snag that title off
- 1:01:29him. And then Zerto Benavides. Glanton is ranked
- 1:01:33in the IBF. And there's no number one or two
- 1:01:39contender. It's Chris Billum -Smith and Glanton.
- 1:01:42Ah, son of a bitch. Gosh, darn it. Chris Billum
- 1:01:47-Smith. He continues to stick around. It could
- 1:01:52be worse. It could be the WBC. You've got Mikaelian,
- 1:01:55Sislak, and then Roziki at your mandatory spot
- 1:01:59there. I would rather be IBF. I'll take the IBF
- 1:02:02over that. You could be Jowptown with a fucking
- 1:02:05shrink of Zufa. WBA got no one. Getting rid of
- 1:02:09fucking your IBF like an idiot. It's just...
- 1:02:11Oh my god, guys. Like, we might genuinely see
- 1:02:19for the IBF, like, Vidal Riley and Masternack
- 1:02:23be elevated to something. Where's Gula Mirian
- 1:02:27in WBA right now? Gula Mirian in the WBA? Let
- 1:02:32me take a peek. Is the guy that's in WBO? Yeah,
- 1:02:38absent. No, okay. Well, look at that. Maybe he
- 1:02:43just fucked off after losing to Zero. In absentia.
- 1:02:48Right on. Again, cruiserweight is horse shit,
- 1:02:52and if you are fucking up title reigns at cruiserweight,
- 1:02:55like, there's no hope. That's just how it is.
- 1:03:03To reference the two cruiserweights that they
- 1:03:08want Opitai to be in the conversation with, Evander
- 1:03:12Holyfield dominated, maybe not necessarily undisputed,
- 1:03:16but dominated, moved up the heavyweight. Oleksandr
- 1:03:21Usyk, undisputed. He beat everyone. Anyone who
- 1:03:26was anyone, he beat them. And then he fucked
- 1:03:28off the heavyweight. And beat anyone who was
- 1:03:31everyone there. Exactly. Same with Holyfield.
- 1:03:35He had fucking solid wins as well. For context
- 1:03:38with Holyfield, Holyfield's... like, huge war
- 1:03:41with Kawi was, first of all, 15 rounds. Christ.
- 1:03:47And his jaw was not hanging off. Kawi was known
- 1:03:51for his engine, right? Like, this is, like, if
- 1:03:54you ever have, like, two hours to just kill,
- 1:03:57put on Kawi Holyfield 1. It's 15 rounds of straight
- 1:04:02action, and what's crazy is that Holyfield picks
- 1:04:06it up by the end. Picks it up? That's it. Last
- 1:04:1015 -rounder of... Yeah, last championship 15
- 1:04:14-rounder before they changed it. They... Kawi
- 1:04:18was known for his engine more than anything at
- 1:04:20this time and at this weight class. And Holyfield,
- 1:04:25like, scrapes it out with his engine. Crazy.
- 1:04:30Out -engines the engine? He then goes apeshit
- 1:04:33and knocks everyone out at cruiserweight, including
- 1:04:37Kawi in a rematch and Carlos de Leon. And then
- 1:04:43moves up. And just knocks guys out until his
- 1:04:47hands basically shatter on George Foreman's skull.
- 1:04:52But... To show how a dominant cruiserweight should
- 1:04:57carry themselves at the division. You're allowed
- 1:05:02your hard fight. Usyk had his hard fight with
- 1:05:04Bredis and then just washed everyone else. He
- 1:05:07had a hard fight with Chizora, to his own admission.
- 1:05:10At heavyweight. Yes, at heavy. Yes. Yeah, but,
- 1:05:13like, at cruiserweight. For the standard of cruiserweight
- 1:05:15champion, like, even, like, David Haye. Like,
- 1:05:18let's say David Haye is, like, it's closer to
- 1:05:21what Opetai is, but still better. That is a better
- 1:05:25analog than Usyk and Holyfield. God, I really
- 1:05:30want to smack fucking Kellerman so badly. That's
- 1:05:33what I mean. Like, David Haye, you could use
- 1:05:35David Haye. Like, they're exciting, vulnerable
- 1:05:37guys who, like, They had okay reigns at Cruiserweight
- 1:05:43and then moved up. Like, granted, he did pick
- 1:05:48up one of the easier world titles ever. But that's
- 1:05:53not his fault. One of the easier world titles
- 1:05:57that were... It was difficult for him to win
- 1:06:03them. Yeah. Like, at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight.
- 1:06:07At Heavyweight... Imagine if he fought Evander
- 1:06:10Holyfield at heavyweight if Holyfield got the
- 1:06:12decision against Beluev. Oh, God, that fucking
- 1:06:16Easter Island statue person? Yeah, he was the
- 1:06:20guy that Hay beat for a WBA world title at heavyweight.
- 1:06:25But the thing is that right before he fought
- 1:06:29Hay, he robbed Holyfield. So we actually could
- 1:06:35have seen David Haye and Evander Holyfield in
- 1:06:37the year 2009. Think about it. You know what?
- 1:06:44That makes me depressed to think about. Oh, man.
- 1:06:49Some funny shit going on. Anything more for Zufa
- 1:06:56Boxing 4? I would say to Zufa, you go to Jaya
- 1:07:00Pattaya, but I mean... Come on. I hope somebody
- 1:07:05sorts Opetai out. He's probably locked into a
- 1:07:12contract at this point. I hope somebody, when
- 1:07:17that contract comes to term, I hope somebody
- 1:07:21sorts him out and like, hey dude, this is not
- 1:07:23the place you want to be. I think it's going
- 1:07:29to take a gentle nudge. Because he's... a former
- 1:07:35world champion so he's gonna have a little bit
- 1:07:40of a big head but still i hope somebody sorts
- 1:07:44him out like he he strikes me as kind of dumb
- 1:07:49um i that's i'm not trying to be like really
- 1:07:55demeaning i'm not trying to be demeaning it's
- 1:07:58just like he's not i don't know like he's he's
- 1:08:01a little slow uh I kind of feel bad for calling
- 1:08:05him an idiot earlier. Yeah, like... No, because,
- 1:08:08like, I get it. Hearing him talk, he's obviously
- 1:08:12slow, but, like... He's an airhead. There's slow,
- 1:08:15but then there's, like, you should, like, read.
- 1:08:17You need to read the word. Like, it's not like...
- 1:08:20Back in the day, like, Don King had to, like,
- 1:08:23hide this shit in the fine print. There should
- 1:08:27be... And Don King was better at this shit. He
- 1:08:29had to hide it in the fine print here. Like,
- 1:08:31the fighter can read it. He's just choosing not
- 1:08:33to. There should be a level of self -awareness
- 1:08:37when you're... You should know, like, I'm a bit
- 1:08:40of a fucking airhead. Maybe I should get somebody
- 1:08:44who does this for a living to look at this for
- 1:08:48me. Somebody who's like... They are paid to keep
- 1:08:55my best interest in mind. But what are we going
- 1:09:01to do? Opitaya, buddy, you want me to read your
- 1:09:05contract? You let me know. We'll manage you,
- 1:09:11bro. What's the Reddit acronym? I, anal. I am
- 1:09:16not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer.
- 1:09:21Best I can tell you is I will read it cover to
- 1:09:24cover and I will give you my honest assessment.
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- 1:13:17right, into our previews, starting with Friday,
- 1:13:20March 20th. MF Pro on DAZN. This will be co -promoted
- 1:13:26by Conlon Boxing at the SSE Arena in Belfast.
- 1:13:33Nobody on here of note other than Mickey Conlon
- 1:13:38in the main event. I almost didn't include him
- 1:13:41in this. Saturday, March 21st. Matchroom at the
- 1:13:49Copper Box. Motherfucking... Similar situation.
- 1:13:56Not a whole lot of people. This is like a Lin
- 1:14:00card. Yeah. George Ladard vs. Tyler Denny. I
- 1:14:07think the British middleweight title is on the
- 1:14:09line here. So, that's fine. Sure. Yeah, whatever.
- 1:14:19Man, we got one and a half title fights this
- 1:14:26weekend. I haven't checked. There's probably
- 1:14:31more fights on the bill. But Probox TV in San
- 1:14:36Bernardino, California. Co -main Joshua Kevin
- 1:14:43Anton. versus Kudratilo Abdukakarov. Excellent.
- 1:14:50And in the main event, Lester Martinez versus
- 1:14:55Emmanuel Alim for the interim WBC super middleweight
- 1:15:01title. Lester, my man, you got done dirty. There
- 1:15:06is no situation where Christian Mbili gets elevated
- 1:15:12to full title list. Without having had to face
- 1:15:16you again. This is a situation I said before
- 1:15:21where interim WBC titles are where championship
- 1:15:27dreams go to die. I don't think Lester's going
- 1:15:31to get the fight again. I really don't. And Lester,
- 1:15:37I fully believe with all of my heart that he
- 1:15:41would win the rematch. God damn it. It sold out.
- 1:15:48I didn't know this year was in San Bernardino.
- 1:15:52Maybe if you check the calendar, you would have
- 1:15:57known about it weeks ago. No, I didn't know it
- 1:16:01was in San Bernardino, though. I knew the fight
- 1:16:03was happening, but I didn't know it was in San
- 1:16:04Bernardino. As I said, if you check the calendar,
- 1:16:07you would have. But that's neither here nor there.
- 1:16:12Sorry, Saul. Yeah, that's on you. It's okay,
- 1:16:15though. We'll get to watch it together and enjoy.
- 1:16:20Facts. Last one. Matchroom on DAZN at the Caribe
- 1:16:26Royale in Orlando, Florida. Let's see. Moving
- 1:16:33up the bill. Entrevious Ingram just has a fucking
- 1:16:37excellent name. I just wanted to say it. Up the
- 1:16:43bill, Terra Moana. I haven't checked if he has
- 1:16:46an opponent yet. Chances are, like, this far
- 1:16:49out, if he doesn't have an opponent, it's not
- 1:16:52going to be anybody, like, worthwhile. And Terra
- 1:16:55Moana's still in his, like, can -crushing phase
- 1:16:57of his career. So, c 'est la vie. Yoannis Taiz
- 1:17:05versus Myles Micelle. Taez is the dude that got
- 1:17:10beat by Abbas Baru. So that's fun. Omari Jones
- 1:17:19is back. Quick turnaround. Versus Christian Gomez.
- 1:17:25And headlining Carlos Adamas, the WBC middleweight
- 1:17:32champion, versus Austin Williams. Third round.
- 1:17:37ranked contender. I refuse to call him Tiger.
- 1:17:42He is Ammo. But that's it. That's all we got
- 1:17:48on the calendar. For this week, anyway. Sure.
- 1:17:55You know what we're getting close to? Fucking
- 1:17:57Chisora Wilder. Chisora Wilder and Gangbusters.
- 1:18:04Wardley Dubois. Holy shit, dude. That is coming
- 1:18:08up, too. May 9th. We'll get there. Anyway, Nagatani.
- 1:18:17Holy shit. And Zerto Benavidez. May is going
- 1:18:20to be real good. We just got to suffer the next
- 1:18:22bit. Bro, this night of suffering is easy, dude.
- 1:18:24Last year was way worse. Yeah, I was going to
- 1:18:25say, last year was fucking dog shit, so I'm happy
- 1:18:28here. You're right. We've got some nibbles as
- 1:18:33we lead up to the bigger dishes, so we're good.
- 1:18:37We're good. I think we're sitting pretty. Let's
- 1:18:45see. So, we are going into Adamus Ammo Weekend.
- 1:18:56Parting words. Let's go, Carlos Adamus. Go, Adamus.
- 1:19:04Jayo Pataya. You know what? Jao Pataya undisputed
- 1:19:10before virtual world title. Go fuck yourself.
- 1:19:14How bad would that be? Undisputed Zufa champion,
- 1:19:18maybe? Yeah, true. Zufa title. You know, maybe
- 1:19:22the Zufa title, I'd be less mad at it if it didn't
- 1:19:25look ugly as shit. I'd be less mad if they didn't
- 1:19:28call fucking Zufa. That's true. It's tacky. It's
- 1:19:32so tacky. Imagine they called it a TKO belt.
- 1:19:35Like UFC is ultimate fighting championship. The
- 1:19:39belt is gold and black. It's cool as fuck. Like
- 1:19:44you call it Zufa and it looks like a watch. Yeah,
- 1:19:48Casio watch, right? Yeah. Zufa, yeah. What the
- 1:19:52fuck even is Zufa? It has the color palette of
- 1:19:54my calculator and it says Zufa on it. I don't
- 1:19:57fucking want that. I don't even want to look
- 1:19:59at it. I want to fight for the Zufa belt when
- 1:20:02I grow up. The WBC looks cool. That's like the
- 1:20:08number one reason why it's more legitimized.
- 1:20:13Because it's cool as fuck. The Zufa belt is silver
- 1:20:16and black and it's tacky. Looks like it was made
- 1:20:20out of plastic. It does look like it's made out
- 1:20:23of plastic. The WBC does what they also do which
- 1:20:29I really like is the commemorative designs. Yes.
- 1:20:34Like the British one when Tyson Fury beat Dillian
- 1:20:38White. Yeah. I'm not British. That was a fucking
- 1:20:42cool ass belt. The Floyd Mayweather versus Conor
- 1:20:46McGregor, the money belt. The money belt. I'm
- 1:20:50looking it up right now. That's the one I was
- 1:20:51thinking of. Yeah, the diamond encrusted belt.
- 1:20:54Diamond encrusted, made of gator skin. Are you
- 1:20:57fucking kidding me, dude? And it was gold, like
- 1:21:01legit gold. No, I know. The IBF uses gold in
- 1:21:05their belts, and it's cool. Zufa is fucking dick
- 1:21:11and balls. It looks off. And Saul, I think a
- 1:21:17big one is the name. You could have called this
- 1:21:22anything. Anything. Yeah, just the fact that
- 1:21:26it says Zufa on it makes it ten times worse.
- 1:21:29Yeah. Because of UBC. I would fucking like it
- 1:21:33like that. Anything, dude. If you look at the
- 1:21:34UFC belt, it's gold. It says UFC on it. It's
- 1:21:40black and gold. It looks pretty cool. There's
- 1:21:43already a UBC, by the way. It's the Ultimate
- 1:21:46Fighting Championship. Universal Boxing Council.
- 1:21:51Look that one up. Just come up with something
- 1:21:54that isn't. Zufa. Zufa is so stupid. You can
- 1:21:59make an acronym. Like, if you want to be super
- 1:22:01corny 2010's edgelord, you can call it the war
- 1:22:04belt and come up with an acronym for war. Extreme
- 1:22:09KO belt. Yeah. XKO. XKO is fine. That's pretty
- 1:22:15dope. TKO. That's the parent company. TKO. TKO
- 1:22:22is cool. Or you could just call it the KO belt.
- 1:22:26You know, they could call the WBC the World Boxing
- 1:22:28Congress. They could just do anything except
- 1:22:32Zufa. They could call the ZBC and call Zufa Zufa
- 1:22:39Boxing Champion. It would look fucking so much
- 1:22:42better than ZBC. I thought you said Z -B -Z like
- 1:22:46Zufa Boxing Zoo. That's what I thought. I don't
- 1:22:50know why I thought you said that. What is a fucking
- 1:22:52zoo? They're a bunch of fucking animals. Fuck.
- 1:22:58All right. So is that what we got for parting
- 1:23:01words? Zufa fucking sucks. Yes. All right. Cool.
- 1:23:07That is it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides.
- 1:23:12Holy shit. We will see you on the other side.
- 1:23:16Adamus, Ammo, who will be the fucking middleweight
- 1:23:19champion? We will find out. See you on the other
- 1:23:23side.