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- 0:00Speaker 1: It may be the best headline we've seen in about
- 0:02Speaker 1: a week. Ukraine and Russia CeaseFire's talks have actually started. Now.
- 0:08Speaker 1: This could be a waste of time, or it actually
- 0:11Speaker 1: could be something that we could be excited and proud of.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine began their talks at the Belarus border
- 0:19Speaker 1: as the conflict between the two neighbors enters its fifth
- 0:23Speaker 1: day of war. The Ukrainian president to adviser told Reuters
- 0:28Speaker 1: via techs the face to face exchanges have begun the
- 0:32Speaker 1: Ukrainian President's office. At earlier the talk's aim was an
- 0:36Speaker 1: immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine. President
- 0:41Speaker 1: Zelenski said sixteen Ukrainian children now have been killed in
- 0:45Speaker 1: another forty five have been injured in the Russian invasion.
- 0:49Speaker 1: He also added that over four thousand, five hundred Russian
- 0:52Speaker 1: troops have been killed and urged Putin's troops to lay
- 0:56Speaker 1: down their guns and leave. He also added in a
- 0:59Speaker 1: video message that every crime, every shelling by the occupiers
- 1:05Speaker 1: referring to Russia, bring our partners and us even closer.
- 1:10Speaker 1: The Ukrainian delegation was the first to arrive for the
- 1:13Speaker 1: talks with Russia, saying they were unclear whether they'll lead
- 1:18Speaker 1: to any breakthrough. Now, the UN Security Council has also
- 1:23Speaker 1: voted to hold a rare emergency special session of the
- 1:26Speaker 1: General Assembly to debate the crisis engulf in Ukraine after
- 1:31Speaker 1: Russia's invasion. That meeting is set to begin in the
- 1:36Speaker 1: UN headquarters Monday after noon and could go on for days.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Now the UN and I want to move to more
- 1:44Speaker 1: context on that story. The UN is going to address
- 1:48Speaker 1: this crisis in their General Assembly, and this is the
- 1:52Speaker 1: UN Security Councils vote to hold a rare emergency special session.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Any resolution agreed at the General Assemblie will be non binding,
- 2:02Speaker 1: which tells you kind of how worthless the UN really is. However,
- 2:06Speaker 1: the US is looking to build on the one hundred
- 2:08Speaker 1: now countries that have voted to condemn Russia over its
- 2:12Speaker 1: annexation of Crimea in twenty fourteen. Now there are one
- 2:16Speaker 1: hundred ninety three members of the global UN body and
- 2:20Speaker 1: they will be given the chance to speak. Now, you
- 2:23Speaker 1: got to think, and let's go back to what happened
- 2:25Speaker 1: in Crimea twenty fourteen. One hundred countries back then voted
- 2:29Speaker 1: to condemn Russia, which is barely over fifty percent. With
- 2:33Speaker 1: one hundred ninety three members of the global body, they'll
- 2:35Speaker 1: now all be given a chance to speak. You've got
- 2:38Speaker 1: to assume they're going to get well over one hundred
- 2:41Speaker 1: people saying this is wrong now. Any that choose to
- 2:45Speaker 1: do so will defy. Russia after it voted against the
- 2:50Speaker 1: resolution in the UN Security Council, but under UN regulations
- 2:54Speaker 1: it did not have veto power to rail the referral
- 2:56Speaker 1: of the war to the General Assembly, remember, and the
- 3:00Speaker 1: Security Council, where again Russia is a member, they have
- 3:03Speaker 1: veto power and of course a vetoed than being censored
- 3:07Speaker 1: or sanctioned or anything negative towards them coming from the UN.
- 3:11Speaker 1: The procedure is allowed under UN Resolution nineteen fifty called
- 3:17Speaker 1: Uniting for Peace and echoes growing international calls elsewhere for
- 3:22Speaker 1: action to be taken sooner not later against Russia's unprovoked aggression.
- 3:28Speaker 1: It also allows for members of the Security Council to
- 3:31Speaker 1: take over the General Assembly for a special session if
- 3:33Speaker 1: the five permanent members which include Russia to the US, Britain,
- 3:37Speaker 1: France and China, failed to agree among themselves to act
- 3:40Speaker 1: together to maintain peace. It will just be the eleventh
- 3:46Speaker 1: such session that the General Assembly has ever held like this,
- 3:50Speaker 1: according to diplomats, Now, this day's long diplomatic exchange is
- 3:54Speaker 1: expected to highlight the extent of Russian isolation in the
- 3:59Speaker 1: international community over their deadly invasion of their neighbor. The
- 4:04Speaker 1: Council members who supported this resolution recognize that this is
- 4:09Speaker 1: no ordinary moment. That's what the US ambassador said at
- 4:14Speaker 1: a press briefing earlier. Quote. These are issues that affect
- 4:17Speaker 1: all member states, and now in the General Assembly they
- 4:20Speaker 1: can all make their voices heard on Russia's war of choice. Now,
- 4:25Speaker 1: this is going to happen for at least a day,
- 4:30Speaker 1: this conversation, and this will be happening as Ukraine and
- 4:35Speaker 1: Russia are meeting. It will also happen as the fighting
- 4:38Speaker 1: continues across the number of fronts and the human cost
- 4:41Speaker 1: of Russia's aggression is exposed. Now, the session comes after
- 4:47Speaker 1: last week's United Nations Security Council meeting, where Ukraine made
- 4:50Speaker 1: an ambitious effort to have Russia ejected from the UN
- 4:54Speaker 1: entirely on that occasion and argued that Vladimir Putin's government
- 4:58Speaker 1: did not legally acquire the seat formerly held by the
- 5:01Speaker 1: Soviet Union, which is a very interesting and a smart move.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Now there's another thing that's happened, and that is that
- 5:09Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin has become isolated. In fact, in many ways,
- 5:13Speaker 1: it's been isolated forever, and some are now even talking
- 5:17Speaker 1: about the prospect of a coup. I want you to
- 5:20Speaker 1: hear a conversation by the former Russian ambassador from the
- 5:24Speaker 1: US who is speaking with Joe Scarborough. Now, I want
- 5:29Speaker 1: you to understand, this is MSNBC. I'm gonna play for you.
- 5:31Speaker 1: And if MSNBC is reporting it and talking about this way,
- 5:36Speaker 1: then imagine how bad it actually could be for Vladimir
- 5:39Speaker 1: Putin right now in Russia. Take a listen now. It
- 5:42Speaker 1: is frightening this t ambassador. I know that we are
- 5:47Speaker 1: looking through a glass starically and can't really see what's
- 5:51Speaker 1: happening on the other side. A lot of Americans, a
- 5:54Speaker 1: lot of people across the West, wondering what happens when
- 6:00Speaker 1: oligarchs are angered enough, insiders are deeply disturbed. We're hearing
- 6:05Speaker 1: reports repeatedly that the Russian middle class, Russians are scared
- 6:10Speaker 1: and horrified by what's going on here. We used to
- 6:14Speaker 1: be able to talk about the Pollit Bureau and try
- 6:17Speaker 1: to make our best guests about the Masha nations inside
- 6:21Speaker 1: of the Pollit Bureau? What give us, give us your
- 6:25Speaker 1: best guess about what happens inside. Is there any check
- 6:31Speaker 1: to Vladimir Putin? And at what point when the pain
- 6:34Speaker 1: becomes tough enough for oligarchs, for the Russian middle class,
- 6:38Speaker 1: for the Russian military, at what point do they move
- 6:41Speaker 1: on him and try to get him to stop this
- 6:44Speaker 1: war or removing from power. It's the number one question.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Obviously I don't have a clear answer, but I can
- 6:50Speaker 1: tell you that in the last you know, seven days,
- 6:54Speaker 1: because I talked to Russians every single day, I talked
- 6:56Speaker 1: to Ukrainians every single day, just corresponding with one you know,
- 7:00Speaker 1: right before we got on here, who's close to mister Zelenski,
- 7:03Speaker 1: about just how they are standing firm and the fact
- 7:07Speaker 1: that he's standing firms. Zelenski's not leaving Kiev. Is driving
- 7:10Speaker 1: Putin nuts because the whole world is talking about his
- 7:14Speaker 1: heroism and the whole world is talking about how evil
- 7:17Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is. But to your question, Joe, he doesn't
- 7:20Speaker 1: have people around him that he listens to. He's been
- 7:23Speaker 1: isolated forever. He was isolated when I was ambassador eight
- 7:26Speaker 1: years ago. He would listen to anybody. He sat out
- 7:29Speaker 1: at his compound outside of town, rarely came to work,
- 7:33Speaker 1: does not have a feel for his own country. And
- 7:35Speaker 1: that was all okay as long as everybody's making money,
- 7:39Speaker 1: sending their kids abroad, you know, tracking down on the opposition,
- 7:44Speaker 1: everybody was fine. But now it's that that elite, that
- 7:47Speaker 1: the elite that has benefited from Putin's regime that has
- 7:51Speaker 1: now turned on him because they never thought that he
- 7:54Speaker 1: was going to do this, right, They never thought he
- 7:57Speaker 1: would be so crazy as to do this kind of attack.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And they are all in shock, by the way, not
- 8:03Speaker 1: without reason. A lot of Ukrainians, a lot of Americans
- 8:06Speaker 1: didn't think he would you do this, and so they
- 8:08Speaker 1: that is happening now. But the problem is they do
- 8:11Speaker 1: not have mechanisms to turn their discontent into stopping him.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But I can tell you there are people now, you know,
- 8:19Speaker 1: just discussing that talk about for the first time ever
- 8:22Speaker 1: since Putin's been in power for twenty two years, that
- 8:25Speaker 1: maybe we need, you know, hopefully they'll be a coup,
- 8:28Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll stop him before it's too late. I'm not
- 8:31Speaker 1: predicting that. I want to be crystal clear about that
- 8:33Speaker 1: if I think that's a very low probability event, but
- 8:37Speaker 1: the fact that it's being discussed that is something new.
- 8:40Speaker 1: He's lost this country, including the people that are closest
- 8:43Speaker 1: to him. Now. There's something there that he mentioned that
- 8:47Speaker 1: I think is a really important point that we need
- 8:49Speaker 1: to expand on. And he talked about how those around
- 8:52Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin are not happy with him directly what he's
- 8:56Speaker 1: talking about when he said that, and this is I
- 8:59Speaker 1: think the real point that people need to understand is
- 9:02Speaker 1: that the oligarchs that are rich, the oligarchs that are
- 9:07Speaker 1: around him, those are the ones that are the most
- 9:10Speaker 1: upset right now. Those are the ones that are the
- 9:13Speaker 1: most angry right now. And the reason why they're angry
- 9:17Speaker 1: it really does make good sense. They're losing money, the
- 9:22Speaker 1: crashing of the markets, the crashing of the ruble, the
- 9:25Speaker 1: crashing of what they're invested in, and there are a
- 9:29Speaker 1: lot of things that they're invested in, and they are
- 9:31Speaker 1: absolutely those things are crashing, and that's what this is about.
- 9:38Speaker 1: This is about that crash. They've lost maybe fifty percent
- 9:43Speaker 1: of their wealth overnight because of something that Vladimir Putin
- 9:46Speaker 1: is doing. That's isolating Russia, hurting the Russian people. You
- 9:50Speaker 1: can't get money out of the banks in Russia right now.
- 9:52Speaker 1: There's been a run on the bank and outside of
- 9:56Speaker 1: oil and gas exports, they got to import pretty much
- 10:00Speaker 1: everything they need in Russia. And your buying power just
- 10:03Speaker 1: dropped by half. So if you had a million dollars
- 10:05Speaker 1: in buying power a week ago, you have half of
- 10:08Speaker 1: that right now. If you're an oligarch right now, you're angry,
- 10:13Speaker 1: even if you're one of Putin's people that got rich
- 10:16Speaker 1: because of him, and you're sitting there going why are
- 10:18Speaker 1: we doing this, Vladimir, What is the point of doing this?
- 10:22Speaker 1: You're costing all of us money. Our assets are being
- 10:25Speaker 1: frozen around the world, Our banking is being frozen. We
- 10:30Speaker 1: can't do business, even if it's corrupt business anywhere in
- 10:33Speaker 1: the world right now, because you have completely isolated us.
- 10:38Speaker 1: There's another part of this with these oligarchs that I
- 10:41Speaker 1: think is shocking, and that is that it's very clear
- 10:44Speaker 1: if Vladimir Putin did not think about any of this
- 10:49Speaker 1: before he did it, or if he did, he just
- 10:51Speaker 1: didn't care. And that has now brought up even conversations
- 10:55Speaker 1: and questions about could there be a co attempt on
- 10:59Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin? The people are angry, the oligarchs are angry. Financially,
- 11:06Speaker 1: they're insignificant trouble now in Russia. The world is isolating
- 11:11Speaker 1: them in condemning them even more than they were before,
- 11:15Speaker 1: which is another part of this that everybody has to
- 11:18Speaker 1: look at. And if you combine all this, if you
- 11:22Speaker 1: look at all of what I just described, this is
- 11:26Speaker 1: not good news for Vladimir Putin. Now he could argue,
- 11:31Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm Vladimir Putin. I kill people right,
- 11:35Speaker 1: you get in my way, you say anything, I'll end you.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Does he have that power? Still, there's a very good
- 11:40Speaker 1: chance that, yes, he does have that power. He very
- 11:44Speaker 1: well could have the power to continue to do this
- 11:48Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine and to double down and to try
- 11:51Speaker 1: to have another even you could argue a surge. There's
- 11:55Speaker 1: a very good chance that that can happen. But the
- 11:59Speaker 1: oligarchs are up because they're losing everything. And if you
- 12:02Speaker 1: think about if you've lost the people and you've lost
- 12:06Speaker 1: the rich that we're gaining by you being in charge,
- 12:10Speaker 1: there's not many people left around you, and the military
- 12:14Speaker 1: is getting beat and a lot of these skirmishes right now,
- 12:16Speaker 1: so that either they maybe they don't have the willpower
- 12:19Speaker 1: that they thought they had, maybe they realize how dumb
- 12:21Speaker 1: this is, or maybe they have so many connections with
- 12:24Speaker 1: the people in Ukraine that they don't really want to
- 12:26Speaker 1: go in and kill all of them the way that
- 12:28Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is warning them. Two. It's a very complicated situation.
- 12:33Speaker 1: But let's go back to the isolation for a moment.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Listen to the former ambassador Michael McFall and talking about
- 12:41Speaker 1: these oligarchs through the years to be very skeptical of
- 12:45Speaker 1: news reports that come out of the fog of war,
- 12:48Speaker 1: predictions on how one side is doing, how another side's doing.
- 12:51Speaker 1: It seemed to be particularly difficult in this case. But
- 12:56Speaker 1: did we not get a better understanding of just how
- 13:00Speaker 1: badly things were going for Russian troops when Vladimir Putin
- 13:03Speaker 1: started talking about nuclear preparedness yesterday morning? Exactly exactly. He's
- 13:13Speaker 1: not saying that if he's winning the war, right, I've
- 13:16Speaker 1: seen him when he's winning wars. He's a very snug guy.
- 13:20Speaker 1: You know, he sits with his legs all spread out,
- 13:22Speaker 1: and you know, you know, you know how he talks, right,
- 13:25Speaker 1: You're not seeing that putin right now, you would not
- 13:27Speaker 1: be he would not be saying those things if the
- 13:30Speaker 1: war wasn't going badly. The other part of that, however,
- 13:35Speaker 1: is that he's moving on I think, to Plan B
- 13:37Speaker 1: right now. He thought Shakanaw he was going to attack cities,
- 13:41Speaker 1: the Ukrainians were gonna fold, Zelenski was going to run
- 13:43Speaker 1: to Poland and he would put some of you know,
- 13:47Speaker 1: puppet in. That's not happening. And what I fear happening,
- 13:51Speaker 1: especially watching things on the ground in Kharkiv, is he's
- 13:54Speaker 1: moved to an old Russian his old strategy that he's
- 13:57Speaker 1: used in cities like a leppo throughout shits, Yeah, which
- 14:01Speaker 1: is much more civilian casualties to try to turn things around.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Hearing from people from Kharkie, you know, just eight hours
- 14:10Speaker 1: ago they said they're going to fight to the end.
- 14:13Speaker 1: But I think he's pivoted to that and the other
- 14:15Speaker 1: thing I want to say, Joe, part of the reason
- 14:17Speaker 1: it's gone so bad as he's misjudged his own military.
- 14:21Speaker 1: I just listened to I don't know four dozen interviews
- 14:25Speaker 1: with Russians last night who were captured in Ukraine, and
- 14:29Speaker 1: they're asked, you know, why are you fighting? They can't
- 14:32Speaker 1: answer that question. The Ukrainians put them on with their
- 14:35Speaker 1: moms right on the phone and they say, tell your mom,
- 14:37Speaker 1: why are you here? Why are you here? And they say,
- 14:40Speaker 1: I don't know why. And I think we've undersked what Putin,
- 14:43Speaker 1: I think is underestimated that. I think maybe the world
- 14:46Speaker 1: is right. Is one thing to have capabilities, but you
- 14:49Speaker 1: have to have the will to fight. And that fifty
- 14:52Speaker 1: eight minute rambling speech that Putin gave I probably was
- 14:55Speaker 1: the only one that listened to the end right is
- 14:58Speaker 1: I don't think many Russians did. He could not explain
- 15:01Speaker 1: what this war is about. And I think that affects
- 15:04Speaker 1: the morale of the Russians that he sent into Ukraine,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and that he's calling on the Belarussians to help him out.
- 15:11Speaker 1: That's another sign of desperation. That's another sign this war
- 15:15Speaker 1: is not going according to Plant. One of the other
- 15:18Speaker 1: things that's happening here is they are going after civilians,
- 15:21Speaker 1: and they're going after apartment buildings and bombing and hitting
- 15:25Speaker 1: with missiles these places, and that is only making the
- 15:29Speaker 1: people in the Ukraine fight back even harder. They're not running,
- 15:37Speaker 1: the women and children are vacuating. The men are staying.
- 15:40Speaker 1: The men are staying, and they're saying, I'm not backing down.
- 15:46Speaker 1: They're saying, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not.
- 15:48Speaker 1: We're not going anywhere. Voker also talked about something else
- 15:53Speaker 1: happening in Russia. Talked about the internally around Vladimir Putin.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Things right now he believes are starting to crack. Take
- 16:01Speaker 1: a listen, they could develop. So I think they're going
- 16:03Speaker 1: to try to keep the targets, but they've got to
- 16:05Speaker 1: get off the Russian spots. Well. Last one, if I
- 16:07Speaker 1: may miss from Basta, what happens to world opinion if
- 16:10Speaker 1: indeed the Russians do intend to demolish pots of Kiev
- 16:14Speaker 1: to take it. World opinion has been remarkable. Also, everyone
- 16:19Speaker 1: has come around now to see Putin the for the
- 16:22Speaker 1: brutal dictator and aggressor that he is, and to support Ukraine.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I think the Ukrainians have a good chance of surviving here.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I think they may actually hold off the Russians, and
- 16:32Speaker 1: I think this will be ultimately the end of Putin.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I don't think the world will tolerate leading Russia anymore.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Who's going to take him down? Hopefully, internally, the military
- 16:41Speaker 1: and the intelligence services. I think they see that the
- 16:44Speaker 1: only threat to Russia today is Putin's leadership. Do you
- 16:48Speaker 1: question his sanity? I think so, to be honest, to
- 16:52Speaker 1: be going after civilian populations this way, waging a war
- 16:57Speaker 1: out straight out of the nineteenth century, and then threatening
- 17:01Speaker 1: nuclear use, this is These are the actions of a madman.
- 17:05Speaker 1: That's dramatic stuffness. Rumbassada. We're very glad to have you
- 17:09Speaker 1: on the show with those opinions. We appreciate it. Cult
- 17:11Speaker 1: vulgar there. Hopefully internally the military and the intelligence services
- 17:16Speaker 1: will take Putin down. Now, this is a conversation we
- 17:21Speaker 1: never could have imagined when this all started. But again
- 17:26Speaker 1: we go back to what these are. Two former vassadors
- 17:28Speaker 1: are now saying, one, since Putin has been isolated forever,
- 17:31Speaker 1: hopefully there will be a coup. Another ambassador says, hopefully
- 17:35Speaker 1: internally the military and the intelligence service will take Puttin down.
- 17:39Speaker 1: These are again two conversations we've never had before. Two
- 17:42Speaker 1: things that you know not part of this. And then
- 17:46Speaker 1: there's just the pure will of the Ukrainian people. The
- 17:52Speaker 1: Ukrainian people, despite Russia's overwhelming firepower, they were not able
- 17:58Speaker 1: to pass into many areas that they tried to get into.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Why is that because they're not leaving their homes and
- 18:06Speaker 1: they realize that they would rather die fighting for their
- 18:10Speaker 1: freedoms than live under the dictatorship under the rule of
- 18:15Speaker 1: Russia and Vladimir Putin because they've experienced it before, they've
- 18:21Speaker 1: experienced what it's like to live under Russian occupation, under
- 18:26Speaker 1: Russian rule, and they and they're like, we're not going
- 18:29Speaker 1: to leave and start all over it. This is our home.
- 18:32Speaker 1: We are going to defend it. What an amazing story.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin thought he could go in there, shock and
- 18:43Speaker 1: all Ukraine and just flat out beat them. He has
- 18:46Speaker 1: more planes, he has more tanks, he has a bigger military,
- 18:53Speaker 1: but an entire country is now sitting up for themselves.
- 18:57Speaker 1: You know, there's a viral story and I don't even
- 19:01Speaker 1: know if it's true or not. I don't care, it's
- 19:05Speaker 1: the principle of the matter. There was a posting of
- 19:08Speaker 1: an eighty year old man who showed up to join
- 19:10Speaker 1: the Ukrainian military. We believe the picture to be true
- 19:13Speaker 1: at this point, but there's a lot of pictures that
- 19:15Speaker 1: have been used that aren't even connected to Ukraine, right
- 19:18Speaker 1: now and what's happening right now. And that's why I say,
- 19:20Speaker 1: whether it's true or not, it's the principle of what
- 19:22Speaker 1: we're witnessing in the Ukraine. And this picture shows a
- 19:26Speaker 1: forty old man showed up to join the Ukrainian Army,
- 19:29Speaker 1: carrying with him a small case with two t shirts,
- 19:32Speaker 1: a pair of extra pants, a toothbrush, and a few
- 19:34Speaker 1: sounches for lunch. He said he was doing it for
- 19:37Speaker 1: his grandkids. There are grandmothers who are doing it. They're saying,
- 19:43Speaker 1: I'm okay to die. I've lived a full life. This
- 19:45Speaker 1: eighty year olds like, I'm okay, I'm doing this for
- 19:47Speaker 1: my grandkids because my grandkids are not going literally over
- 19:51Speaker 1: my dead body. Are they going to grow up under
- 19:55Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's rule. I'm eighty years old. This is what
- 20:00Speaker 1: many of the grandmothers. Same thing with the grandmothers, right,
- 20:04Speaker 1: These grandmothers are the same behind. It's like that they're
- 20:07Speaker 1: they're basically saying, I'm okay with my life being over.
- 20:11Speaker 1: I've lived a great life. I am going to do
- 20:13Speaker 1: this for my grandkids and for my kids, and I'm
- 20:15Speaker 1: going to make sure that my kids and my grandkids
- 20:18Speaker 1: do not grow up under Vladimir Putin's rule and if
- 20:23Speaker 1: my life ends at the age of eighty or seventy
- 20:27Speaker 1: or sixty. Look at Zalinski. The world is totally shocked
- 20:30Speaker 1: that Americas said, you know, hey, will send a plane
- 20:32Speaker 1: get you out, and say no, no no, no, no no.
- 20:34Speaker 1: I don't need to just send a plane to get
- 20:35Speaker 1: me out. I need just in a plane with munitions,
- 20:38Speaker 1: with AMMO. I need you to send a plane with
- 20:43Speaker 1: the things I need to be able to fight for
- 20:44Speaker 1: my country. I'm not asking you to send troops. All
- 20:49Speaker 1: I'm asking you to do is send supplies. Don't send
- 20:52Speaker 1: an airplane to get me to safety. I will die
- 20:54Speaker 1: in my country defending it, for my kids, for my grandkids,
- 20:58Speaker 1: for the future of people in this nation. So don't
- 21:01Speaker 1: send me a plane empty for me to sit on
- 21:03Speaker 1: and leave. I'm not leaving. I'm willing to die. Look
- 21:07Speaker 1: at the former president of Ukraine, same exact thing. I'm
- 21:10Speaker 1: not leaving, not going to be captured either. I'm going
- 21:13Speaker 1: to fight to the death to defend this country and
- 21:16Speaker 1: defend our freedoms. It is inspiring, but it's also sad.
- 21:21Speaker 1: It is sad in Ukraine. I think the people there
- 21:24Speaker 1: understand how valuable freedom is, and we take it for
- 21:28Speaker 1: granted in this country. And look at all the freedoms
- 21:30Speaker 1: that we've given up just under COVID. For goodness sakes,
- 21:33Speaker 1: these people are dying for the freedoms that we've just
- 21:35Speaker 1: handed over left and right for the last two years.
- 21:39Speaker 1: It is a stark reminder of a compare and contrast.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So just how different and how lazy we are in
- 21:46Speaker 1: this country, and how we don't understand what's happening with
- 21:50Speaker 1: our freedoms. Many don't, I should say, what's happened under
- 21:54Speaker 1: just COVID. We're handing over our freedoms left and right,
- 21:57Speaker 1: and these people are dying for theirs. Even as these
- 22:00Speaker 1: peace talks are underway, we are now seeing a video
- 22:04Speaker 1: coming out that the war is still raging on. Ukraine's
- 22:08Speaker 1: second largest city is being bombarded with shelling during the
- 22:12Speaker 1: peace talks. It looks like Vladimir Putin during these peace talks,
- 22:16Speaker 1: is trying to make sure that they understand why they're
- 22:19Speaker 1: at that table, that we can just kill you from
- 22:21Speaker 1: the air, bomb you from the air, and obviously they
- 22:26Speaker 1: are trying to move this in a new direction. We
- 22:31Speaker 1: also know that Vladimir Putin is also talking about nuclear war,
- 22:37Speaker 1: nuclear explosions, And we just got word that BP has
- 22:42Speaker 1: just exited a fourteen billion dollars state in a Russian
- 22:48Speaker 1: oil giant, rush Neft. Now they can buy back in
- 22:53Speaker 1: at any point, I want to be clear about that.
- 22:55Speaker 1: But we are just getting this breaking news that British
- 22:58Speaker 1: oil company BP is pulling its fourteen billion dollars steak
- 23:03Speaker 1: from Russian oil giant rush Neft. This according to the
- 23:08Speaker 1: Washington Posts, it's one of the most significant Western investments
- 23:12Speaker 1: in Russia ever in its history. Russia's attack on Ukraine
- 23:17Speaker 1: is an act of aggression which is having tragic consequences
- 23:20Speaker 1: across the region. The head of BP set in a statement.
- 23:25Speaker 1: BP has operated in Russia for over thirty years, working
- 23:28Speaker 1: with brilliant Russian colleagues. However, the military action represents a
- 23:33Speaker 1: fundamental change. It has led the BP board to conclude,
- 23:36Speaker 1: after a thorough process, that our investment with rush Neev,
- 23:40Speaker 1: a state owned enterprise, simply cannot continue. The BP move
- 23:46Speaker 1: is one It is one more sign that Western public
- 23:50Speaker 1: opinion is swiftly moving against Russian President Vladimir Putin's unjustified
- 23:54Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine. Sovereign nation that gave up its nukes
- 23:59Speaker 1: in nineteen nine four in exchange for the Russian government
- 24:01Speaker 1: security guarantee. A lot of people forget that in nineteen
- 24:05Speaker 1: ninety four, Ukraine was a nuclear power. They gave up
- 24:10Speaker 1: those nuclear weapons in nineteen ninety four, in those Kumbaya
- 24:14Speaker 1: years of Bill Clinton in exchange for the Russian government
- 24:18Speaker 1: security guarantee. That did not happen, as we now know.
- 24:21Speaker 1: You want to know why places like Ukraine should never
- 24:23Speaker 1: give up their nuclear weapons, This is exactly why. And
- 24:26Speaker 1: they did it in ninety four in exchange for the
- 24:29Speaker 1: Russian government security guarantee. And Bill Clinton was involved in that.
- 24:33Speaker 1: How did that work out? Not very well? In ways
- 24:37Speaker 1: large and small, from consumers to companies to governments, the
- 24:42Speaker 1: West is growing more determined by the day to take
- 24:44Speaker 1: a bite out of Russia's economic might, military aggression, with
- 24:48Speaker 1: a mixture of sanctions, boycotts, and even the denial of airspace.
- 24:53Speaker 1: More from this breaking news from the Washington Post. The
- 24:56Speaker 1: world's biggest computer chip companies have started halting sales to
- 25:01Speaker 1: Russia of vital electronic components to comply with the US
- 25:06Speaker 1: led sanctions, and the European Union is banning Russian flights
- 25:10Speaker 1: from its airspace, forcing Russian airline Aero Float Aeroflot excuse
- 25:16Speaker 1: me to cancel the majority of their international flights. Now,
- 25:21Speaker 1: hours after VP's announcement, Norway's state controlled oil companies set
- 25:25Speaker 1: It too, is quitting its investment in Russia, a group
- 25:30Speaker 1: of joint ventures is valued at one point two billion,
- 25:35Speaker 1: saying this, we are deeply troubled by the invasion of Ukraine,
- 25:39Speaker 1: which represents a terrible setback for the world, So the
- 25:43Speaker 1: president chief executive said in a statement quote in the
- 25:46Speaker 1: current situation, we regard our position as unattainable, saying that
- 25:55Speaker 1: the company will begin exiting our joint ventures in a
- 25:59Speaker 1: manner that is consistent with our values. So two very
- 26:05Speaker 1: significant moves that have just happened again, BP now exiting
- 26:09Speaker 1: their fourteen billion dollars stake in the Russian oil giant
- 26:13Speaker 1: owned by Russia. Now we're also being told that despite
- 26:17Speaker 1: Russia's overwhelming firepower, even as they're bombing cities as we speak,
- 26:24Speaker 1: the people are standing up and I want you to
- 26:26Speaker 1: hear part of this incredible story. The bridge here hasn't
- 26:31Speaker 1: been raised for as long as they can remember, but
- 26:34Speaker 1: neither has the sleepy port town of Micliave been invaded.
- 26:39Speaker 1: The clack claque is likely exchanges with Russian paratroopers who
- 26:43Speaker 1: were told landed nearby locals struggling to keep up with
- 26:48Speaker 1: their world here collapsing and soldiers edgy. The fear here
- 26:54Speaker 1: Russian saboteurs like these two suspects thrown to the ground
- 26:58Speaker 1: by soldiers. Then the sirens go off and it is
- 27:07Speaker 1: back in the basement for mothers and cats. Here the
- 27:15Speaker 1: noise of what Russia would do to these towns in
- 27:18Speaker 1: the name of subjugation and gear political gain. Police trying
- 27:23Speaker 1: to turn lights off, it seems in businesses that closed
- 27:27Speaker 1: in a hurry, life persisting caught between hoping this is
- 27:31Speaker 1: short lived and wondering if it may go on forever.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Behind it all in empty streets, the fear they may
- 27:39Speaker 1: be overrun, and whether each huge blast would be the
- 27:46Speaker 1: decisive strike that lets Putin's troop center. The shelling just
- 27:53Speaker 1: went on and on the next morning we saw where
- 27:59Speaker 1: it hit. It's likely a missile tore up these Ukrainian tanks,
- 28:03Speaker 1: but nobody left feels broken. How you feel good? Good? Good? Yeah? Yeah,
- 28:11Speaker 1: they tried to come into the town, but I see
- 28:13Speaker 1: Paia Nikolau funny. He's saying, the Russians tried to come
- 28:21Speaker 1: in last night, but the town of mikolaiav feat them
- 28:25Speaker 1: and you can see what it looks like here. Er saying,
- 28:30Speaker 1: look at look around here. I'm asking him, how do
- 28:32Speaker 1: you feel living here? Looking at all this? This is
- 28:34Speaker 1: where you live, right, He's I look at this, Look
- 28:36Speaker 1: at these windows that are blown out in spoil. Yeah.
- 28:48Speaker 1: So the words of Russian ministers who've been saying that
- 28:51Speaker 1: they're not going to hit civilian infrastructure here, he's repeating
- 28:55Speaker 1: them back to me, saying, look look at this. They
- 28:58Speaker 1: say they're not hitting civilian instructure. Look at this damage
- 29:00Speaker 1: around him. Putin's rockets may have shattered glass, but not
- 29:06Speaker 1: dented the anger here as they take stock. You have
- 29:11Speaker 1: to ask yourself why Moscow ever thought these towns would
- 29:14Speaker 1: gladly be occupied and what Russia's end goal is tempers
- 29:21Speaker 1: Frey Here, blood has been spilled, but despite Russia's overwhelming firepower,
- 29:28Speaker 1: they did not pass. You know, I think one of
- 29:32Speaker 1: the most incredible parts of this story is how all
- 29:35Speaker 1: that the Ukrainian people are asking for is the weaponry
- 29:38Speaker 1: needed to defend and protect themselves and They're clearly willing
- 29:43Speaker 1: to fight for their homes. They're not asking to be evacuated.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Just like the president Zelinski has said, don't send me
- 29:50Speaker 1: a plane to get me out of here, Send me
- 29:53Speaker 1: a plane with munition, send me a plane with m O.
- 29:57Speaker 1: One of the incredible stories we heard earlier was the
- 30:02Speaker 1: story about the European Union and their foreign policy chief
- 30:06Speaker 1: has announced on Sunday that members the EU are going
- 30:10Speaker 1: to supply and I would say better late than never,
- 30:15Speaker 1: Ukrainian with actual fighter jets, with the technology they need
- 30:18Speaker 1: to go toe to toe with the Russians. The Wall
- 30:21Speaker 1: Street Journal is now putting this in and again this
- 30:25Speaker 1: is all public opinion. It's so frustrating, but at least
- 30:27Speaker 1: it's moving this way. The world is clearly saying we
- 30:31Speaker 1: stand with Ukraine and not with Russia. Clearly the world
- 30:34Speaker 1: is turning on Russia. Thank goodness, they are turning on Russia.
- 30:40Speaker 1: BP Oil and all these people have been making tons
- 30:42Speaker 1: of money off of Russia and making them rich are
- 30:48Speaker 1: now starting to realize that there's no way that you
- 30:50Speaker 1: can justify working with Russia right now. And this is
- 30:53Speaker 1: where it's obvious that Vladimir Putin totally overestimated his ability
- 31:01Speaker 1: to take over this country easily and totally overestimated his
- 31:05Speaker 1: power that the rest of the world would not respond
- 31:08Speaker 1: and the way that they are right now. But he
- 31:10Speaker 1: also thought at this point that it would be a
- 31:13Speaker 1: quick thing like we saw in Crimea, and that then
- 31:16Speaker 1: he could say, oh, I'm protecting all these people and
- 31:18Speaker 1: look at all the people that didn't die because we
- 31:20Speaker 1: took it over, and now there's law and order. Right,
- 31:22Speaker 1: That's what he was thinking here, that he could do
- 31:25Speaker 1: that in the rest of the world say Okay, no
- 31:26Speaker 1: one's dying right now and he's in charge, and all right, fine,
- 31:28Speaker 1: we'll move on, keep making our money. But the oligarchs
- 31:34Speaker 1: that that back him now have to be looking at
- 31:37Speaker 1: this thinging what has he done? What is happening here again?
- 31:45Speaker 1: What is happening now? Now? The White House has also
- 31:50Speaker 1: come over and said that we're not going to go
- 31:54Speaker 1: to war with the Ukraine or excuse me, with Russia.
- 31:57Speaker 1: We're not going to send our boys to fight. Listen
- 32:00Speaker 1: to what the White House Press secretary had to say
- 32:02Speaker 1: moments ago the White House military tactics here. I think
- 32:05Speaker 1: that the world has been so stunned by waking up
- 32:08Speaker 1: morning after morning to President Zelenski, who is defiant and
- 32:13Speaker 1: who reports that the Ukrainian forces are fending off Russia.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Is it possible, Jen, do you think for them to
- 32:20Speaker 1: hold Russia off long enough for international forces to stop him,
- 32:25Speaker 1: or do you think it's a matter of time before
- 32:26Speaker 1: Russia overwhelms Ukraine? We still first, President Zelenski, the Ukrainian people,
- 32:31Speaker 1: the Ukrainian military. They've been incredibly courageous. They have stood
- 32:35Speaker 1: up to a one of the world's most powerful militaries
- 32:38Speaker 1: on the ground in Ukraine. But our assessment has not
- 32:41Speaker 1: changed that Russia, President Putin the military has every intention
- 32:44Speaker 1: of taking Kiev, and they're continuing to make progress. Given that,
- 32:47Speaker 1: was it a tactical error gen for the US not
- 32:50Speaker 1: to say it is possible we would send in military forces.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Should the President not have taken that off the table,
- 32:56Speaker 1: at least in terms of what he was saying, we
- 32:58Speaker 1: haven't for Taiwan, for example. Well, the President wants to
- 33:01Speaker 1: be direct, has always wanted to be direct about with
- 33:03Speaker 1: the American people about what he will do and what
- 33:05Speaker 1: he will not do. He is not sending US forces,
- 33:08Speaker 1: men and women who fight for our military into Ukraine
- 33:11Speaker 1: to fight a war with Russia. We are not going
- 33:12Speaker 1: to have a military war with Russia with US troops,
- 33:15Speaker 1: and he thinks it's vitally important and first and foremost
- 33:18Speaker 1: important to be direct with the public about that. I
- 33:19Speaker 1: want to ask you quickly about the refugee crisis, that
- 33:21Speaker 1: we want to get to the state of the Union,
- 33:23Speaker 1: but the un Let me just also, and you mentioned
- 33:25Speaker 1: you heard him mentioned the state of the Union. I'm
- 33:27Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna wrap up by saying this. The President's
- 33:30Speaker 1: State of the Union is going to be one of
- 33:33Speaker 1: the most important State of the Unions for any Democratic
- 33:37Speaker 1: Party leader in a very long time. He's going to
- 33:43Speaker 1: have to deal with what's happening in Ukraine and it failed.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Foreign policy, he's going to have to deal with an
- 33:50Speaker 1: American public that is very very frustrated right now over
- 33:53Speaker 1: inflation and very very frustrated right now not just over inflation,
- 33:57Speaker 1: but the rising price of oil and game as he's
- 34:02Speaker 1: going to have to deal with an American people that
- 34:05Speaker 1: are very frustrated and exhausted from COVID restrictions in lockdowns,
- 34:12Speaker 1: all of this while he's going to have to deal
- 34:14Speaker 1: with a foreign policy. The president has got a stay
- 34:18Speaker 1: of the union and addressed, and I'm not sure he's
- 34:21Speaker 1: going to be even capable of delivering the message the
- 34:25Speaker 1: way they needs to deliver the message. I'm talking about cognitively.
- 34:29Speaker 1: But the rest of the world is going to be
- 34:31Speaker 1: watching and they're gonna see how he responds, and they're
- 34:35Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna see how he responds to see how
- 34:38Speaker 1: they feel about him. And the rest of the world's
- 34:41Speaker 1: gonna look at him and they're gonna say, is he weak?
- 34:43Speaker 1: Is he incompetent, is he incoherent? And from a national
- 34:47Speaker 1: security standpoint, I do want the president to look competent.
- 34:53Speaker 1: I want Vladimir Putin to see a present that is
- 34:55Speaker 1: not incapacitated or isolated. I want him to see a
- 35:00Speaker 1: leader that at least can have conversations with the rest
- 35:03Speaker 1: of the world on these issues and that people don't
- 35:05Speaker 1: try to take advantage of us. Because there's also what's
- 35:08Speaker 1: Taiwan right now. In China, they're making a decision right now,
- 35:12Speaker 1: is this their time to go in and can America
- 35:14Speaker 1: or would Americans stand up and would Americas stop them?
- 35:16Speaker 1: While they're distracted with what's happening in Ukraine, while they're
- 35:19Speaker 1: distracted with their economy. The American people are going to
- 35:24Speaker 1: be looking. And I also think judging this president, who
- 35:29Speaker 1: has the lowest approval rating of any time in his history,
- 35:31Speaker 1: lower than any point in the history of George Bush,
- 35:35Speaker 1: or any point in the history of Barack Obama, lower
- 35:38Speaker 1: than any point in the Trump administration, his approval rating
- 35:42Speaker 1: is a disaster right now in the thirties. So not
- 35:46Speaker 1: only does Joe Biden need to hit a political home
- 35:49Speaker 1: run message with the American people, he's gonna have to
- 35:52Speaker 1: hit a home run with the world. And I don't
- 35:54Speaker 1: know if he's up to it. I don't know if
- 35:56Speaker 1: he has the capacity to deliver that speech. Now, let
- 36:03Speaker 1: me go back to Ukraine. I don't think Vladimir Putin
- 36:08Speaker 1: is going to just stop overnight. I don't think these
- 36:10Speaker 1: peace talks are gonna stop everything right away. I don't
- 36:14Speaker 1: believe that he has an appetite to kind of say, okay,
- 36:19Speaker 1: let's agree to disagree and let's end this thing. Yet
- 36:23Speaker 1: I think there's going to be more bloodshed. I really do. Unfortunately,
- 36:25Speaker 1: because I think he's a psychotic man. It's gonna take
- 36:29Speaker 1: more isolation. Now. I do believe that we should stop
- 36:31Speaker 1: all imports of Russian oil. I think we should open
- 36:35Speaker 1: up that Keystone pipeline again, and I don't think the
- 36:37Speaker 1: president has a willpower to do that either, which is
- 36:39Speaker 1: a huge problem. Let me just tell you these people
- 36:43Speaker 1: in Ukraine, I want to shake every one of their hands.
- 36:46Speaker 1: These people are brave, They're willing to die for freedom.
- 36:53Speaker 1: And in this country, what have we been doing. We've
- 36:54Speaker 1: been giving away our rights and our freedoms for the
- 36:56Speaker 1: last two years in the name of COVID. If you
- 37:01Speaker 1: want to know what to teach your kids, this is
- 37:03Speaker 1: what you talk to your kids about right now. Explain
- 37:07Speaker 1: to them how important your freedom is and what happens
- 37:10Speaker 1: when someone takes it away, and what we do to
- 37:13Speaker 1: fight and to make sure that it doesn't get taken away.
- 37:18Speaker 1: I'm inspired by these people, and I hope it's making
- 37:21Speaker 1: people in America understand just how much we've given away
- 37:25Speaker 1: when it comes to our basic rights and our basic freedoms.
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