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Matthew Chapter 14: Bible Study by Atheists · Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Husband, Husband, Husband, Why?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we're doing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're doing, we're doing, we're doing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I different type of opening apparently.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I told you I had that fucking song in my head.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I had to sing it now, so.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad it is that it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're done with that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let us hope.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let us pray.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to our podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did what it would what comes next after that little Well, no, I say jail.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we're doing today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and then and then you go and then I say and I say Thanks, no, I don't say thanks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not I don't say thanks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I say.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I really fucked your shit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I really fucked my shit out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what do we do next?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You Say well in the last episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in in our last episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh
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  [SPEAKER_00]: on an actual pot of thing where we'd read the Bible, which we covered Matthew chapter 13.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, it's fucked it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We sure is fucked in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you okay, are you back?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I maybe.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you done?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on one right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't don't call 911.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not, that's not what we need.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So in that one, we had a bunch of parables.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We sure spoke dead.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we had the parable of the sewer.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We had the mustard seeds We feast and hidden treasures and and pearl fish and stuff and there was all kinds of stuff and it was it was We don't kill it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess maybe like I don't know like everybody talks about these parables and how like
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The part that really pisses me off is that this whole chapter, all these parables, there was such a long section of him talking, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And not only do we have to go in like vet all these parables, but like on top of that,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This was all to make it a, this was another prophecy stuff in moment.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, this was just them, like, and there will be someone who says parables, says everything in parables.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, we still doing prophecy stuff in worth 13 fucking chapters in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're still doing prophecy stuffing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: When do we get done with the prophecy stuffing?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not ever.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The whole New Testament is prophecy stuffing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, this is too much.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the, I'm so sick of the fucking prophecy,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: then this was another prophecy and it's like nine tenths of it is from Isaiah yeah and for that fuck you Isaiah so that was Matthew chapter 13 sure's fuck was which means that today we're gonna be given into um chapter 14 of Little Maddie all right let's do this okay don't keep
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we are hopping into chapter 14 of Little Matty and we did a Q&A over the previous three chapters.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We did a two-parter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there was two Q&A's.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We did learn that some of the parables actually had a little bit more depth and meat to them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then we originally realized when we breathed them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that was fun.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping that we get more interesting stuff happening and I have to tell you like I open this up and my eyeballs about fell out of my head because there's
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a head of spoilers.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Spoilers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Spoilers for the Bible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've never read the Bible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So like literally the headers are spoilers for me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it just says the death of John the Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, Oh, John the Baptist dies.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking no.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't have much of a story arc does he you're much a jail and now he's gonna die apparently Baptized Jesus and went to jail and now he's dead.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we're gonna find out what he's done in the Baptist like I mean He's got a full fucking title.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's big John and he was like an Elijah or something, you know like it was like whoa So I wonder if it's Harry it's gonna take him up to happen in a whirlwind
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, let's read this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At that time, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because remember the previous chapter right at the end, Jesus was like, hey, all of you, Kepernam guys, whistle, been there were like, now we don't really chill with you and you're fucking miracles and he was like, fine, just for that book y'all and he gave them all the middle finger and piece out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what it means at that time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At that time that he was like, hey, some of those cities that ever do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Or his city or something.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Or particularly his town.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But because remember they were like, get a little bit of how this guy grew up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He grew up to be a big, perfect guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Did not see that comment.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so then, um, so that's all happening.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So at that time of that,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He tetrarch, okay, I'm gonna have to look that up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing that has to do with a three because tetra, tetrarch.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Herod the tetrarch heard the reports about Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That would make sense because he's probably like the third because Herod and then he had a son on this son, like a new one maybe again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, so it might be like Herod the third or whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, baby.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Herod the tetrarch heard the reports about Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm guessing he wasn't happy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was probably not going to be good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like King of the Jews, my ass, until you who's King of the Jews.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said to his attendance, this is John the Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He is risen from the dead.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That is why miraculous powers are our work in him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's confused.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He was hearing reports about Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, that fucking John the Baptist guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you even kidding me right now?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's still running around doing shit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But wait, what's this about him raising from the dead?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently we know you raised from the dead.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, listen, I'm going to go on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Herod had arrested John and bound him and put him in prison because of Herodias, his brother Phillips wife.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But John had been saying to him, it's not lawful for you to have her.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going to have to look that up, because why?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Was she a sister or some shit?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Herod wanted to kill John, but he was afraid of the people because they considered John a prophet.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: On Harris, so we're, he, okay, we start the chapter and, and Harris is like this mother fucker John.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's hearing about Jesus and he's like this mother fucker John.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought we killed that mother fucker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so now the chapter's like, okay, three weeks ago, like what led up to him saying that?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just making sure you're with us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so he wanted to kill John because John's like, you can't marry her?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That grody, whatever you did, I don't like it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, John's like, I'll throw you in jail and I will kill you, but I can't because I'm scared of the people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Who was the, here it is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's scared of the people.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: because because the people consider John a prophet.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so on Harris birthday, the daughter of her Herodias, his brother's wife, danced for the guest and pleased, heritage.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, is his brother's wife.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why John's like, you need to fucking relax.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot fuck your sister in law.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, but she hot, I need to squeeze the pussy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so she was dancing and stuff and shaking that ass and twirking all over the place and she please Her it's so much that he promised with an oath to give her whatever she asked Okay, she was a honey lip fix and sounds like I mean, I'm not on a straight path.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean who knows Matthew was fucking he could be talking now She could have been nice as pie and Matthew was like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hoor right, right like I mean look what happened about sheba, right
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was David.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's like, yeah, they had a romance and it's like, no, I mean, rape that woman.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you never, you never get the straight story, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So for all we know, this woman is fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Bible is like, no, she nasty, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, she's dancing and he's like, I need to fuck you so bad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I will give you whatever you want, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Prompted by her mother.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She said, give me here on a platter the head of John the Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The king was distressed, but because of his olds and his dinner guests, because he had just said that in front of everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to fuck you so bad, baby, please, please, please.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like give me the king of John the Baptist and then I'll fuck you the king of John the Baptist the head of John the Baptist Sorry, I did a dyslexia thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so anyway the king was distressed but because of his oath and his dinner guests He ordered that her request be granted.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like my hands are tired.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What can I do?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I got to kill him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wanted him dead anyway, so this works out
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and he had John beheaded in the prison.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His head was brought in on a platter and given to the girl who carried it to her mother.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm- These are weird gifts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm about for my birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not beheaded anybody for you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me the head of somebody for my birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need a head on a platter for my birthday.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where they get that from.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Head on a platter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was head on a platter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: His head was brought in on a platter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where we get that phrase from.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Where do we use head on a platter?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bring you his head on a platter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You've never heard anybody say that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a saying.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you're right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So John's disciples, ooh, they were so sad, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They came in and took his body and buried it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice that they were allowed in the jail to get his body.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so weird.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're allowed to go see him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: because they have been talking to him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When, remember when John was like, blessed Jesus, guys, is he the real deal?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she never occurred to me like, his guys are like talking to him in jail.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Their prisons are weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I'm just really confused here because like, there's not really been much of an arc for this guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're back to John now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting his arc.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Escalated quid.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean his arc is already over?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They took his head off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they went and told Jesus what happened?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so all of that happened, so John is dead, and so then Harid is hearing these stories about a prophet and he's like, that motherfucker, he must be brismed from the dead because I fucking had him kill it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I had his head on a platter, and he doesn't realize, no, they're talking about Jesus, dumbass.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't realize, are you sure?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it literally said that at the beginning.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that, listen, listen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The trouble was because of this job.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, not that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: At that time, Herod the Tetroc heard the reports about Jesus, and he said to his attendance, this is John the Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He has risen from the dead.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is why miraculous powers are at work in him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks that Jesus is John risen from the dead.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But neither of them are dead.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Neither of them are died.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: John had died.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm confused.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I am very confused.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how you're confused.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I'm gonna tell you the story one more time, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Harriet is like, at this party and he's like, this girl is fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And John's like, that's your sister-in-law.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And Harriet is like, go to jail.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, they took him to jail.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, then here it is like baby.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to fuck you so bad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do anything and then she's hold on let me get through the story and then she's like I will fuck you if you bring me that guy's head That you just sent a jail if you send me his head on a platter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so then he does it, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so then later he's hearing reports about Jesus They said that before this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they did okay, they did
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, here it had a rested John and bound like we did it anyway three weeks ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's where we were three weeks back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I literally told you that at the beginning.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I literally told you we were doing a flashback.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you good?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You caught up?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So now he's like, fuck me like I killed that guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I can get that sweet pussy and
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But now I'm hearing reports about this, prophet guy, Jesus, is he must be the risen John the Baptist that I had killed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that's where we are now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, John people went and told Jesus what was happening.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by boat privately to a solitary place.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hearing of this, the crowds followed him on foot from the towns.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's crying in his boat and they're just standing there on the shore going, are you okay?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm still confused as to like, what, I mean he did kind of swoon over John the Baptist and that one chapter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The whole relationship here to me seems very not defined between Jesus and John the Baptist.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's hard to follow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we might get more of that relationship in the other gospels.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But what we know is that they had met earlier on and argued over who was cooler to baptize.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, that one time, and his John the Baptist's disciples came and talked to Jesus and Jesus questions and then Jesus was like extoling the virtue of John the Baptist, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's all I know about their relationship.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but from that, you know that Jesus held him in very high esteem.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's upset.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's sad.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's on his little boat.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's on sure going.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot of context for this whole thing.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, think about it.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is written for people who already know supposedly what happened.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: like kind of this is like filling in the blanks.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Supposedly.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: When Jesus landed in Saul, a large crowd, he had compassion on them and healed their sick.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, I'm sad, but all right, I'll heal you.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come here.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get over here.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get in.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: as evening approached the disciples came up to him.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So now it's followers, followers, his disciples, his students.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they said, this is a remote place and it's already getting late.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Send the crowds away so they can go to the villages and buy themselves from food.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know what's I know this story.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know where we're going from here.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because it's dinner time So send them away.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got a go.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's big crowd.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have enough food to feed all these fucking people.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got it.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is this.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is that.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is that Okay, Jesus replied in red ink, so you know, it's for real.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They do not need to go away.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You give them something to eat
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you ever said that to me I would be like you want to go check our cabinets.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do not have food for all these fucking people Yeah, and we do not have magic in our count cabinet.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, we sure don't Excuse me.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have here only five loaves of bread and two fish they answered They were like you need you need to do maths.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're maths as well.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is not gonna work out.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel, I feel, I feel, I'm, I'm miracle.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm miracle's coming ready.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready for it?
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Feel a bubble under the surface here.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're getting ready for it?
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's coming.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's ready, and he says, bring them here to me, the loaves and the breads, okay?
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he directed the people to sit down on the grass, taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave things and broke the loaves.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then he gave them to the disciples and the disciples gave them to the people.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They all ate and were satisfied and the disciples picked up 12 basketballs of broken pieces that were left over.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's so nice.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: God could do that.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wish you would do that to the hungry people today if he has that magic power.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: What a dick that he let so many people starve.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You remember that one time that his realized complained about the lack of food.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he threw birds out.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He heard that at the end.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, never this time this time he multiplied the food and he's just like here.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: You go.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's because that was y'all way and this is Jesus Jesus He's a better food giver.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has I mean God did give them man.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess but this guy's like he's feeding them bread and fish so it's way in and talk
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: the number of those who ate was about 5,000 men, besides women and children.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they had 12 things, 12 babies, something's left over after they were done on top.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Besties.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, baskets full of broken pieces.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: On top of feeding those 5,000 people.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, listen, I'm going to tell you something.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand what you mean by leftover broken pieces of bread because I love the butt of bread.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how were those there?
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're telling me that in 5,000 men plus all their wives and children that not one of them was like, I'll take the crust, I'll eat that.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But and I like that.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be a good helper.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take the part of nobody else.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love bread.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love bread.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's 5,000 people there and there's more than 5,000 people there.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it took them 40 years to write this down.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And nobody has wrote it just just only.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's like a whole town.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Only the gospel guy.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a whole town.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not one of them wrote down.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not one of the wrote down.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Only the gospel guys later, 40 years later.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love this for them.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: This religion checks out.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right immediately after that happened.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side while he dismissed the crowd.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is this where he walks on water?
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: After he had dismissed, I'm excited when we do a part and I know these are these are Jesus things, right?
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, I know that way.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are the Jesus things we know, right?
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, let us remind listeners who might not have been here from the beginning.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are neither scholars nor academics and we have never read the Bible and we
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We weren't raised in religion, and we both came in non-religious homes, and so we're like, I don't know, I only heard a little bit, and so what little bit, that's what we bring here.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jesus walks on water is one of those things.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it is.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very excited if this is that part.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: God damn many of all super hero type type.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: okay so he dismissed the crowd okay and his guys are on the other side of the water because they left already.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He sent them on ahead.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay after he had dismissed them Jesus he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because he said when he went to that high place.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: His associate just died.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went to that high place.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Later that night he was there alone.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but he is sick.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was probably sad that he was being sad about John.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Poor John, this.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, he's just fed 5,000 plus people, you know?
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like, but John, you know?
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I saved all these people, but John.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: But John, yeah.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's sad for him.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the boat was already, okay, so he's up there on the mountain.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was there alone.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're in a storm on the lake.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shortly before dawn, Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I would walk 500 miles in.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would walk on the water.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what he did.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified as you would be.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had no beef with that one.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just saw him take five lobes of bread and two fish.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they've seen him and they've seen his magic.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're terrified that he's walking on fucking water.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't the crowd, right?
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is his disciples.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: These are his homies, right?
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, okay.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: If anybody has seen his miracles, it's these guys.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what puts them this this is what terrifies terrifies them.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a ghost they said and cried out and beer.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they couldn't see that was Jesus get.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, hey, hey.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: With that long flowing blonde hair and the, I mean, come on.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: The only white guy in the middle east.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe they're like, look, you know, and they're like, oh, hey, guys, do you see that?
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that that's a man walking?
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a man walking on the water.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck is this?
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe before they could see who it was.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, well, so it's a ghost they said and cried out in fear.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Jesus immediately said to them in red ink.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Take courage, fuckers.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is eye.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be afraid.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I added the fuckers, but I added it because he says take courage and there is an exclamation point.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I felt like fuckers in there.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Take courage.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is I don't be afraid.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: God.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you're fucking pussy.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ray.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Jesus is a bit of a show off, you know?
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he is and then he's like, what?
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just walked on water.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: What the, what the fuck's your problem?
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you acting like that?
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: What are you being weird?
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lord, if it's you, Peter replied, which I think is fair, is this really you?
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen demons and angels, right?
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're on every street corner here, right?
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the time of magic and shit.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Lord, if it's really you, Peter replied, tell me to come to you on the water.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, he tested him.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus said.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then, P-D-P-P got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came to a G-This!
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sam, I didn't know Peter walked from water, too.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but when he saw the wind, he was afraid and began to sink.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He cried out, Lord saved me!
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck me!
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: How long did he walk in the water exactly?
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was it just like...
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He took a few steps.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: He just sends as he stepped out of the boat.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I'm walking, no!
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's like...
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like the wiley coyote when he runs over a cliff.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's still running and he's still running and then he looks down.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, oh shit, there's no ground under me and then he falls.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of which, there's going to be a new Wiley Coyote movie.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fun.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, act me something.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's going to be a live action and animated thing.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was ready to hate it, but I saw the trailer.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it actually looks like it might be decent.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get my hopes up.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does look kind of cool, though.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then at the end, we see the silhouette of Bugs Bunny and he goes, and what is up, Doc?
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that made me laugh.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm sinking the Peter is him like not having enough faith the whole way Yeah, that's probably going to be the analogy they make out of madness.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you will see me You should have faith right.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, P to Pete Pete with the dirty old seat When I was a kid my my grandparents had a dog being Pete and so they would always say p to Pete with the dirty old feet Yeah, yeah, okay
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Immediately as Pete was sinking, Jesus reached out his hand and caught him, you have little faith.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said bread.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: There it is.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you doubt?
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: See?
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have not read this.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did not know, but I just knew that that would have to be what it was.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: P to P Pete was like, how are you?
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are you?
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesus was like, oh, okay.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you just have faith in me and my magic?
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, because magic.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but okay, but again, these these disciples and apostles and all these people, they supposedly have witnessed him doing lots of things.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Lots of miracles, right?
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they understand that it's about faith and that he's the Son of God and they're supposed to know all these things, right?
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've been commissioned, some of them, the apostles have been commissioned to do the shit.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: how much more fucking proof do you need right like every time he doesn't think it's new they've never said no they've seen very god smack so to speak every time he does a fucking miracle right and yet he is granted them miracle powers right he has done countless miracles in front of them he's killed so many people he's brought people back to life right and then he does some new miracle in front of him and they're like
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't have enough faith to walk on water because why?
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because why?
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is it you're doubting at this point?
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're still doubting and you've seen all these things, like, how the fuck is anybody else supposed to believe that this guy walked on water and didn't it?
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You only, you're there watching it happen and you still are doubting.
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And to me, that's just not saying a lot for this,
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the believability of this story in my opinion?
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's true.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like if even PDP didn't believe right there in front of his eyes, why the hell am I supposed to?
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've not seen any of that shit.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that at that point, you could expect anybody to believe at that level of faithfulness to anybody because if the most faithful to him are still and who have seen all these things can't, then how could anybody be expected to have that much?
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's true.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Jesus is like, oh, why did you doubt?
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of made the fucking wind died down before I got out of the fucking boat.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then those who were in the boat worshiped him saying, true, you are the son of God.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Praise Jesus.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's a new phenomenon since they... Yeah.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other magic meant nothing, this magic was big, this was big magic.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the way they described it, the splitting of the fucking bread and the fish didn't seem like that big of a deal.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is fed all the people and then they went on their way.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and now he's walking on water and they're like, Oh, wow.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, that tells me that maybe somebody had ordered Dordash and they actually didn't magic the bread and fishes.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why the disciples weren't that impressed.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, oh, look, all the wives brought, you know, pocket bread.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I feel like the feeding them was just like, they just had some shit stored.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, like, like, this is all we have, but then grab, grab out of the basket.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: magic.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're almost done with this chapter.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's bring it home.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: When they had crossed over.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're still in the boat.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The guys are like bow and down praying and stuff.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: When they had crossed over the water, they landed at Gena Zaret.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like something out of doom.
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do totally borrow from the Bible.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually, the Dune borrows stuff from, I think, like the Middle East, the very least.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, this place is Janesaret.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that sounds just like the Benny Jesaret.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, they landed at Janesaret.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when the men of that place recognized Jesus, they sent words to all this aroundy country.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: People brought all their sick to him and begged him to let the sick just touch the edge of his cloak and all who touched it were healed.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So more, home magic happens that nobody gives a fuck about this and that impresses it's it's just it's not though Right this clearly.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's nothing that like the way that they're presenting this
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole lead up to where we are right now has been nothing but miracles and prophecy stuffing.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's all it's been, right?
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And every so often, even his disciples and his apostles are just fucking amazed at how much magic he can do and it's like,
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He literally granted you guys powers.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys apparently can do magic of your own and yet you're amazed that the son of God.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: God.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Y'all win.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're amazed that he can do more than you.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you fucking amazed, right?
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like we're missing part of the story.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the part of the story that we're missing, which is that magic isn't real.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, like this and that's that's kind of what I'm giving that like none of this tracks because it just feels like they're trying to It's they're trying to stuff this book full of shit to make you be like, oh This is the son of God, obviously because he's doing all these miraculous things and but there's all the shit's happening I'm not even trying they're doing a shitty job of theirs.
• 30:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's frustrating?
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like even name dropping their name dropping the fuck out of people like John the Baptist right John the Baptist obviously was a big player at that time Right, so they're like let's name drop John the Baptist and like, you know, he's gonna play him with his two Him and whatever, but Their name dropping their fucking prophecy dropping their fucking miracle dropping a dropping everything so hard that it is it just feels very contrived
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does, it does.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care for it personally.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say this is so much more readable and enjoyable on a just on a reading level.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the old test mission.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can appreciate that.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I suppose if I was reading this from the perspective of this was an ancient mythological religion that we were learning about, I would probably react a little bit differently, right?
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Except that these stories are still prevalent and active in our society today.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still expected to believe in this magic.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, but that's clearly that didn't happen.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even as guys don't believe it happen.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: This guy, Jesus, right?
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is literally affecting policy in politics of the United States where we live right now today.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I have such an issue with the way that this is presented to us because it just doesn't read like something that I should believe.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't read like something that convinces me that religion or Christianity or God is real.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It reads like someone is trying is doing a tryhard of just stuffing as much shit as they can into one book to say.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is God, believe us,
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're not, they're trying hard, but they're not trying hard enough, you know?
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And...
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's frustrating.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: If God were writing this, it would sound much more natural and just matter of fact, right?
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, or if somebody that wrote it well was writing it, it would just be matter of fact, this is what happened.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And more than that, I would expect that something of this caliber, this level of like,
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Amazingness right would be backed by some level of historical accountability right and that doesn't happen either and all
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it none of it to me tracks very well and I'm told by Christians to just, you know, it's just believe it.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have to take it on faith.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to believe.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to trust that God's doing.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, you told me if I read this book that it was going to make me believe.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but I think that in order to the way that you're supposed to read it, is to assume that these things all really happened, right?
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't just assume that these things happened because it's silly.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fucker from 2000 years ago told me they happened.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's silly.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's silly.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went to school and I learned things.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's silly.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's where we land.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where we land.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they kind of stopped.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still want to know more about John the Baptist still.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know you.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very fucking disappointed in that whole story.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll hear about it again from the other guys.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other beetles in the band.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: the chicken right well that was a Matthew chapter 14 little Maddie and we will be back next time with little Maddie chapter 15 all right we'll see you then