Latest / The Lila Rose Show / E30: The 2024 Presidential Candidates, Compromise and the Leadership the Pro-Life Movement Needs

Transcript

E30: The 2024 Presidential Candidates, Compromise and the Leadership the Pro-Life Movement Needs · The Lila Rose Show

0:00
If you lead with compromise, I would say that's a failure.
0:03
There's no compromise in killing a child and that needs to be the
0:06
platform in the position of every pro-life candidate.
0:08
But pro lifers for some reason sometimes are so quick to just
0:12
bow down to any candidate who looks their way.
0:14
We are a powerful constituency, but if we're not using our
0:17
power, we're going to get lame candidates who are not going to
0:20
make a difference. There's no states rights when it
0:23
comes to killing babies, period. Hello everybody.
0:31
Welcome back to the Lila Rose podcast.
0:33
And today we're doing things a little differently.
0:35
We're not interviewing a guest. We're going to be doing a really
0:38
fun deep dive into the 2024 election.
0:42
Yeah, it's coming up. Can you believe it's almost
0:44
2024? We're going to talk about the
0:45
candidates, especially, of course, from a pro-life
0:48
perspective, What's going on there?
0:50
Some of the recent pro-life political developments.
0:53
It's been in the news a lot. And then we're going to do a fun
0:55
segment on and ask me anything. I've gotten some great questions
0:59
from you guys. I put out and ask me anything on
1:01
Facebook and Instagram and I've got a lot of questions in and
1:04
I'm excited to answer some. So thank you everybody again for
1:07
listening to the podcast for rating it.
1:09
Don't forget to subscribe if you are on YouTube, go check out the
1:13
new YouTube page and let's get into it. 2024 is just around the
1:18
corner. I can't believe how soon it, how
1:20
quickly it's coming. And already we've got, I think
1:24
it's now 6 candidates who have announced their candidacy for
1:30
the Republican side. We've just heard from President
1:33
Biden just this week that he will be running for president in
1:36
2024. Nobody is surprised by that.
1:39
Shocker. And we also heard, by the way,
1:43
from President Biden and the Democrats that they will not be
1:46
allowing any debates in the Democratic primary.
1:50
This means that President Biden will effectively go unchallenged
1:54
in the primary. There won't really be a primary.
1:56
And instead he's going to go straight into contending with
2:00
whatever Republican gets the nomination.
2:02
So, again, not a shocker there. I want to just give a little
2:07
context on President Biden and the Democrats before we dive
2:09
into the Republicans. Did you know that President
2:13
Biden would be 86 years old at the end of his second term?
2:18
So he's somebody that is hanging on in politics.
2:23
And I mean, Nancy Pelosi was similar, hanging on in politics.
2:26
And I would say please hang on if it was somebody that was
2:31
fighting for truth and justice and our values.
2:34
But unfortunately, horribly, tragically, President Biden,
2:38
apart from the accusations about his mental fitness, is
2:43
absolutely corrupt when it comes to our values and fighting for
2:47
the most vulnerable. And I want to share that a
2:48
little bit because he comes across in media appearances,
2:51
President Biden as this kind of grandfatherly type figure who
2:55
will like have an ice cream cone.
2:57
And you, if you look at media, you would think that he is your
3:01
grandpa. I mean, the media makes him out
3:03
to be this very genteel, you know, a compromiser in a good
3:08
way, bringing people together, not a divider, A uniter.
3:11
And that is anything but the reality.
3:14
The reality is that President Biden is actually more extreme
3:18
on abortion than President Obama was.
3:21
Can you believe that? So I don't know if you remember
3:24
President Obama's abortion position, but he was actually
3:27
against the Born Alive Infants Protection Act as a state
3:30
senator before he ended up running for national office.
3:33
He actually was against protecting children who survived
3:36
abortion attempts and giving them basic medical care.
3:38
That was his track record before entering the national scene.
3:41
When he entered the national scene, he was in support of
3:45
abortions through all nine months of pregnancy at the
3:47
federal level, enshrined for any reason.
3:50
So that was his position. And now President Biden has not
3:55
only taken on that legacy of being pro abortion through all
3:59
nine months for any reason at the federal level, he he is
4:01
against every abortion restriction possible.
4:04
He doesn't want any abortion restrictions.
4:06
He wants abortion codified as a constitutional right federally
4:09
for any reason at any point of pregnancy.
4:12
The President Biden also has been on this really absurd
4:17
crusade. I call it absurd because it
4:19
logically doesn't even make sense, this absurd crusade
4:21
against pro lifers who are trying to save lives.
4:25
An example, of course, is Mark Hawk, who Biden's FBI and
4:29
Department of Justice have been terrorizing pro-life supporters
4:33
who are doing work on the sidewalks peacefully to care for
4:36
mothers outside of abortion clinics.
4:38
And Biden had his FBI raid the home of Mark Hawk, a father of
4:45
eight children, because Mark had been praying outside abortion
4:49
clinics peacefully for years. And so he sent a SWAT team with
4:53
guns drawn at 6:00 AM in the morning, over a dozen agents to
4:58
Mark Hawk's home in Pennsylvania.
5:00
This was just a year and a half ago now.
5:03
And he was there to, they were there to terrorize the family.
5:07
At 6:00 AM. The door.
5:09
They knock on the door and they're banging on the door.
5:12
I should say. They're not knocking.
5:13
They're banging. Let us in.
5:15
Open the door Mark talk is, you know, in his shorts.
5:18
His kids are just waking up and they're all of these agents with
5:22
their guns trained at him and his family when he opens that
5:25
door. And then they just take him in
5:27
handcuffs ultimately away from the home, the family home.
5:31
And what was his crime? His crime was peacefully praying
5:34
outside an abortion clinic and at one point a very pro abortion
5:37
angry escort. An escort is effectively a
5:41
volunteer for a Planned Parenthood that goes and make
5:44
sure that women who are going there to for an appointment who
5:46
are pregnant, who are going to have an abortion do not have
5:49
access to any resources that the pro-life pro-life people might
5:53
have to offer them on the sidewalk.
5:55
So there's always this war playing on the sidewalk where
5:57
pro lifers have resources and they want to offer women
5:59
resources. The pro-life sidewalk counselor
6:01
saying we have other options for you.
6:02
You can go to this pro bono confidential center will give
6:05
you resources and the escorts are there to often times scream
6:09
or yell or direct the woman away from the pro lifers.
6:12
In this case, this particular pro abortion escort at Planned
6:16
Parenthood in Philadelphia was actually approaching Mark and
6:21
his young son, his teenage son, yelling profanities at them,
6:24
getting up in their face. Mark.
6:26
Mark tried to get away from him, tried to walk away, get his son
6:28
away and he was threatening his son.
6:30
So Mark pushed him out of his son's way and that's why the FBI
6:34
showed up at his door and there were no charges, no charges
6:39
pressed. There was no police
6:41
investigation. They dropped it because I mean,
6:43
the escort tried to get Mark in trouble for it.
6:44
But they're like, this is you don't have a case, but the FBI
6:48
made a case out of it because it's the pro abortion Biden, DOJ
6:51
and FBI. Anyways, point here is President
6:54
Biden, even more than President Obama, wants to use the power of
7:01
the state to oppress people who disagree.
7:04
I mean, now maybe Obama would have done more of it if he it
7:07
had been more normalized at the time.
7:09
But politics have gotten so heated in the last several
7:13
years, I think, especially post pandemic and everything else,
7:16
that the powers of the state being used as a weapon against
7:19
your political opponents, I think is at an all time high in
7:23
its use on the pro abortion side against pro lifers.
7:26
So Mark Hawk, thankfully, it actually ended up going to trial
7:30
his case and he was completely acquitted of all charges he had.
7:33
No, they all did. He he won a jury trial.
7:36
The jury said he was totally innocent and he's a free man.
7:39
But he was terrorized. He and his family were
7:41
terrorized by our own government.
7:43
Now, if you're listening by the way, quick side note and you are
7:46
involved in pro-life work, do not stop, persevere.
7:50
The good news is rule of law does prevail and Mark won his
7:53
case and there's pro bono legal support that wants to help you
7:56
win your case. If you have ever have a case
7:58
live action, my nonprofit organization is there to help
8:01
folks. So don't back down.
8:03
That was not the time to back down.
8:05
OK got off of from that and back to the 2024 candidates.
8:09
So you got President Biden, most pro abortion president in U.S.
8:13
history, and he has increased Planned Parenthood funding to an
8:17
unprecedented amount. They're receiving $1.8 billion a
8:20
year or $1.8 million a day, excuse me, a day in taxpayer
8:25
funds. And his vice president is Kamala
8:29
Harris. And Vice President Kamala Harris
8:33
was the same Attorney General of California that went after my
8:36
good friend David Daleiden to send agents to his home to raid
8:41
it for her daring to investigate Planned Parenthood for their
8:44
selling of baby body parts. And Kamala Harris, well, the
8:48
same time she was using the powers of state against David
8:51
Daleiden was doing fundraisers for Planned Parenthood.
8:55
So think about this. An investigative journalist goes
8:57
after an extremely corrupt, basically government entity in
9:00
the state of California and other states, exposing the most
9:03
heinous crimes against children. And the response from the
9:07
political powers that be. Instead of taking that evidence
9:10
and running with it to stop the abusers of children, the harmers
9:14
of children is to go and rally for the harm for the abusers for
9:21
Planned Parenthood, try to get money from them for their
9:24
candidacy because she was running for at the time, Senate,
9:27
and then go after send the state after the investigative
9:32
journalist. It's completely crazy.
9:35
Thankfully, David's work did lead to real ramifications,
9:40
consequences for the abortion industry and in Orange County.
9:44
The the District Attorney in Orange County actually won a
9:48
case against the middle man that was selling some of the body
9:51
parts from Planned Parenthood to other companies and got them
9:55
shut down South. David's work did lead to real
9:57
penalties for some of these horrific actors, but not because
10:02
of Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris went after David
10:05
Daleiden. She also went after pregnancy
10:06
centers. You know, pregnancy centers
10:08
where you go and you give care for mothers and children.
10:11
There's free diapers, there's free formula, there's free
10:14
parenting classes, you know, job, job placement for young
10:17
moms and families. And she doesn't like that.
10:20
And so she went after them to try to force them to put
10:24
abortion notices or advertisements in their
10:27
facilities because how dare they not provide abortion.
10:30
So this is just one example. She's also obviously for
10:33
abortion up until birth for any reason.
10:34
She's a close friend of Planned Parenthood.
10:36
She was just rallying in Los Angeles for Planned Parenthood
10:39
and pro abortion group saying that we need to protect the
10:42
right to abortion through only months of pregnancy.
10:43
So that is who is in line to be president.
10:49
If Joe Biden doesn't make it and passes away on the job, that is
10:53
who we get. Or he has to step down because
10:54
of medical issues or health issues.
10:56
So it's a pretty clear cut in my book that whoever's coming from
11:00
the Republican side on the life issue is going to be better than
11:03
that. It'll be hard for them not to
11:06
be. Let's just put it that way.
11:07
So that's going to that's going to be how we're going to start
11:10
this. I am not a passionate 1000% in
11:14
Republican personally, by the way.
11:17
I'm not somebody who's really loving politics and can't wait
11:21
for the next election. It's so exciting.
11:23
I, I, for me, elections are very heavy things because they are
11:28
determining the fate of so many people.
11:30
In some ways, our fate, the people listening to this
11:33
podcast, you guys, me, our families, but also preborn
11:36
children, laws really do matter. In states that ban abortion,
11:40
thousands of lives are saved. In states that don't ban
11:42
abortion or pay for abortions, like California, thousands and
11:45
even millions of lives are lost. So this is life or death.
11:48
And so it's heavy for me. It's not like I it's not fun,
11:51
but I think it's key that we're all educated and that's why
11:54
we're doing this podcast. Before getting to the Republican
11:57
candidates. Two other things.
12:00
Number one, obviously I'm saying this in my personal capacity as
12:04
the Lila Rose podcast. This is not live actions
12:06
position or live actions role in any way.
12:10
Our role as a nonprofit is to educate.
12:13
My podcast is independent and so we get to talk about politics
12:16
and ultimately take sides with candidates, which is a
12:19
prohibited issue, a prohibited thing for a non for profit
12:22
501-C3 to do. So just a quick note on that,
12:25
we're going to have a special guest in this discussion
12:27
actually, which will be Noah Brandt and he is from the Live
12:31
Action team. He's our awesome Vice President
12:34
of communications and Gov Relations.
12:36
But he is here 100% in his personal capacity.
12:39
He's from the great state of Missouri.
12:40
He is here to talk a little bit, shop about the Republican
12:44
candidates because he's very passionate about this, of
12:46
course, personally too, as you might imagine.
12:50
The other thing I'm going to say is the context here, beyond
12:53
who's on the democratic side is my philosophy when it comes to
12:58
the strategic approach that we should take as pro lifers in
13:02
politics. And this is something I'm really
13:05
passionate about. Noah's really passionate about
13:06
too, so you'll hear him talking about this.
13:08
But I actually just had a piece in the Wall Street Journal
13:11
talking about the strategic position.
13:13
And the title of the piece was The pro-life Movement Can't Lead
13:16
with Compromise. The pro-life movement can't lead
13:19
with compromise. The reason this is so important,
13:21
guys, is because everybody's saying to compromise right now.
13:23
Everybody, everybody, pro lifers, even some leaders are
13:28
saying to compromise on abortion because it's the only way you're
13:31
going to win. And I think that's completely
13:32
false. I think that's totally a lie.
13:34
And it's a lie coming from the pro abortion media who are so
13:38
invested in getting us to fail. They want us to fail.
13:41
The pro abortion side wants to win.
13:42
They want us to fail. So they're doing probably the
13:45
smartest thing that they can do, which is persuade us that we
13:47
can't even win to begin with. And so why bother?
13:50
And so you got Roe V Wade overruled.
13:53
All right? Just like, hold tight for this
13:55
magical moment at some point in the future when maybe then you
13:57
can win. And don't do anything too
13:58
aggressive now because you're just going to lose.
14:01
That's what they're saying. And unfortunately, that's what
14:04
some Republican candidates are saying.
14:05
And it's pretty messed up. And we're going to talk about
14:07
that. But what I said in this piece is
14:09
that we need to, as the pro-life movement, always lead with the
14:14
truth. And that includes pro-life
14:16
candidates. And the truth is that human life
14:19
doesn't begin at birth. It doesn't begin at 15 weeks pre
14:22
birth. It doesn't begin at 8 weeks pre
14:23
birth or seven weeks. It begins at fertilization.
14:26
And that human life is worth defending.
14:28
And that human rights are universal, versal and
14:32
inalienable, meaning you have them no matter what you they're
14:36
inherent to you. Everybody has them, whether
14:38
you're born or pre born. And you don't magically get them
14:41
at some magical age, pre birth or a post birth.
14:45
And that our law, our legal system has a responsibility.
14:49
It's not even a responsibility. It's the, it's the, IT is the
14:52
whole idea of a legal system to begin with, to have law and
14:56
order based on justice, based on just principles, equal treatment
15:01
out of the law. And this is our Constitution.
15:04
Our 14th Amendment in our Constitution declares equal
15:08
protection for all people. And it also declares that no
15:11
state should have the right to deprive anyone of their life
15:14
without due process. Well, there's zero due process
15:17
right now for preborn children in the womb, Absolutely zero.
15:21
And a preborn child in the womb is equally human to a child
15:25
outside of the womb and equally human to you and to me.
15:27
So by our own 14th Amendment in our own Constitution, abortion
15:32
should be eradicated. It should be immediately
15:35
illegal. It's like homicide.
15:36
It should not even exist. So this whole debate of like the
15:39
federal versus the states, who has the job to protect children,
15:45
should the states get to decide? You know, it's everyone said,
15:48
OK, Roe V Wade's overruled. Abortion is now back to the
15:51
states. You probably heard this phrase.
15:53
Abortion is back to the states for the states to decide.
15:57
States shouldn't get to decide whether or not you have your
16:00
constitutional protections. They don't.
16:02
They don't get to decide that a, a, a mob of voters out of voting
16:06
booth doesn't get to right away protections for black people,
16:08
doesn't get to right away protections for women, doesn't
16:11
get to right away protections for disabled people.
16:13
Just because you are a Democratic Republican, you're a,
16:17
you're having a vote, is going to a Democratic body doesn't
16:20
mean that that democratic body has the right to vote on
16:22
anything. There are certain things that a
16:24
democracy does not have the right to decide, and that
16:27
includes fundamental human rights, constitutional
16:29
protections. Those are not to be voted down
16:33
by a democracy or human rights. If you have a right to life
16:36
that's inalienable, that's universal, it's inviolable, it
16:39
cannot be violated. Even if you have an oppressive
16:41
mob come over and say I'm not going to, I don't think so.
16:43
I want to kill you because we're strong and powerful.
16:45
We're adults and you're a little baby in the womb and you're
16:48
encroaching on my freedom and my autonomy, so we should be able
16:51
to kill you. That's not justice and that's
16:53
not the right of a democracy to do so.
16:56
The whole idea of abortion going back to the states is nonsense.
17:00
It doesn't make sense, it's not logical.
17:01
It's not just, and I want to strike it from the lexicon of
17:06
politics among those who claim to be pro-life.
17:10
If you are a pro-life leader person candidate, you're going
17:15
around talking about states rights and abortion.
17:18
I want to strike that entirely from our lexicon because there's
17:21
no states rights when it comes to killing babies, period.
17:25
Just like there should be no states rights when it comes to
17:28
slavery. No, we fought a civil war over
17:31
that. And I don't want to fight a
17:33
civil war over this. I want us to get it right.
17:36
And that starts with pro-life leaders getting it right.
17:38
And so pro-life leaders, including pro-life candidates
17:41
who want your pro-life vote should be bold and lead and say
17:46
human rights begin in the womb. We're going to fight for them.
17:49
And we want complete legal protection for children.
17:52
Our laws should reflect what the Constitution already declares.
17:56
And So what does that mean in the practical?
17:59
Well, let's talk about that. So my piece in the Wall Street
18:01
Journal called the prolific movement Can't Lead with
18:04
Compromise was in part a response to my good friend Ryan
18:07
Anderson. You may have heard of him.
18:08
He's at the Ethics, Public Ethics and Public Policy Center
18:11
in DC Very smart guy, wonderful guy.
18:14
And he had a piece called the The Republicans Can Reset the
18:17
Abortion debate. And he had some really great
18:19
things to say in his piece. But what he said that I disagree
18:22
with was this, he writes. Running on an absolutist
18:26
pro-life platform now is the mirror image of the mistake
18:30
Democrats have made running on an absolutist pro abortion
18:34
platform. So he's basically saying to be
18:38
completely pro-life is a mistake because the opposition is
18:41
completely pro abortion. And my response is no.
18:45
And that's my piece, right? So if you read my piece, I go on
18:48
and I say pro-life candidates should always leave with the
18:50
proof, the truth. Elective abortion is an act of
18:52
violence. There's no compromise in killing
18:54
a child. And that needs to be the
18:56
platform in the position of every pro-life candidate.
18:58
Now what that looks like once legislation is debated on in
19:02
different committees and once different deals are struck in a
19:06
legislature and once bills are actually eventually get to a
19:09
governor to sign at the state level or the OR to the president
19:12
at the federal level, that's a different process.
19:15
I'm talking about what you lead with.
19:18
And if you lead with compromise, you say I'm going to, I'm going
19:20
to run on a 15 week abortion ban.
19:23
I would say that's a failure. President Biden isn't going out
19:26
there saying I'm going to run on abortion is only legal at 20
19:31
weeks. I mean, he's out there saying
19:33
abortion is a constitutional right.
19:36
He's he's inflaming his base who are now committed to him.
19:41
But pro lifers for some reason sometimes are so quick to just
19:47
bow down to any candidate who like looks their way and says,
19:51
Oh, I, I think I'm pro-life too. I'm personally pro-life anyways.
19:54
But the pro lifers like, Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
19:56
No, guys, there's a there's a lot of us out there.
19:59
There are millions of hardcore pro lifers out there.
20:01
I mean live actions e-mail list alone as an example.
20:04
It was over 1,000,000 people who are passionately pro-life.
20:07
SBA list has millions of members and they're see for they're
20:10
actually getting involved in elections, are good friends at
20:12
the Susan B Anthony list. We are a powerful constituency,
20:16
but if we're not using our power, we're going to get lame
20:19
candidates who are not going to make a difference.
20:21
So anyways, I go on to say, listen, if we are winsome and
20:25
communicating the prolific message, we win people over.
20:29
But if we are instead focus on compromising our principles, we
20:33
will not win anybody over and we'll actually lose people.
20:35
So that's the bottom line, and I'm going to just read the last
20:38
bit that I wrote here. The pro-life of the the pro
20:42
abortion left enters the debate with its full agenda intact.
20:46
The pro abortion left enters the debate with its full agenda
20:49
intact, not compromising until legislative reality leaves them
20:53
no other choice. If we communicate the choice
20:56
about the right to life, we will win minds and elections and save
21:00
lives. Instead of leading with
21:01
compromise, the pro-life movement must lead with courage
21:04
and strength. And people might say, well,
21:08
that's not really how it's working in today's elections,
21:10
but that's not true. And we're going to talk about
21:12
that. So I'm going to bring in Noah
21:13
Brant. Noah, are you there?
21:14
I'm here, I'm doing it, Lila Yeah.
21:16
That that that end was was strong.
21:18
That's the thing. I, I, I don't understand about
21:22
the pro-life movement so often, even working in politics for my
21:26
whole career, that, that as I've done the pro abortion left, they
21:31
don't compromise literally until they have to.
21:33
And what I mean by that is they don't run in elections talking
21:37
about compromise. They run saying we're going to
21:39
have abortion up until birth. It's going to be paid for by
21:41
taxpayers. And then if once they're in the
21:44
room where the sausage is made, sometimes they, they don't get
21:47
their entire loaf, but they inspire people and they win, you
21:51
know, hearts and minds honestly by going for the whole loaf.
21:55
And that's what the pro-life movement needs to do.
21:57
Well, I think it's also a matter of obviously principle, but when
22:01
you look at how elections are actually playing out today, the
22:05
opposition is saying, and by opposition I mean the pro
22:08
abortion people as well as some pro-life people are saying,
22:10
well, we're losing elections because of life.
22:12
You know, post Dobbs, there was a big backlash.
22:14
Post Roe V. Wade's fall last summer, there's
22:16
a big backlash. So we're losing elections
22:17
because of life. I don't see it that way.
22:19
I know you don't see it that way.
22:21
What are your thoughts? Well, there's a couple important
22:22
points. For one, the fall of Roe V Wade,
22:26
the Dobs V Jackson decision in June, 20, June 24th of 2022 was
22:30
like a huge 50 year generational win for the pro-life movement.
22:33
And just the, the political reality, it's like gravity, a
22:36
political reality is that losses are often times more galvanizing
22:39
than victories. So the pro abortion left was
22:42
extremely galvanized by that, by that loss.
22:45
And then conversely, the pro-life movement, many of them,
22:47
since many unfortunately, we're not properly educated, thought,
22:50
OK, Roe V Wade is over. So maybe we're done.
22:53
Like is the country pro-life now?
22:55
We ended abortion. And so a mismatch of that the,
22:57
the, the left being galvanized and the pro-life movement, many
23:00
of them feeling like the fight is over, has meant that 22 the,
23:03
the rest of 2022 was not a very strong year for pro-life
23:07
candidates. And I think a lot of pro-life
23:08
candidates were unprepared to talk about their position beyond
23:11
Roe V. Wade being bad and Roe V.
23:13
Wade was bad, right? Roe V Wade said there's a
23:15
constitutional right to kill a child.
23:17
Absolutely crazy. That's not the Constitution.
23:19
But there is a lot more to do, like you talked about with the
23:22
14th Amendment with equal protection that we need to
23:25
extend towards preborn children. And so I think that we were left
23:28
in a in a tough place. And even at one, one other
23:30
example, right, is we just had a couple weeks ago in Wisconsin,
23:34
in Wisconsin, they elect their state judges.
23:36
And Wisconsin has a abortion ban that's been on the books for
23:39
like 100 years. And Roe V.
23:41
Wade made it unenforceable. But it's been being enforced for
23:43
the past couple months. So abortion, you know, currently
23:45
is unavailable in Wisconsin, but a case is coming to the
23:48
Wisconsin State Supreme Court. They're state judges who are
23:51
elected. And there was a very fierce
23:53
competition, very expensive, fierce competition between a
23:56
pro-life judge and a pro-choice judge.
23:58
And the pro-choice judge won, you know, won by well, she won
24:00
by 10 percentage points. But something that just is
24:03
galling. The biggest issue in the
24:04
election was abortion. They talked all about abortion,
24:06
both candidates quite a bit. 40% of ads from the left,
24:10
progressive pro abortion side mentioned abortion, 40 percent,
24:13
1% of ads from the pro-life candidate, there's a group
24:16
supporting him, mentioned abortion.
24:18
So the lesson here, I think, is if you don't play, you don't
24:21
win. Was the pro-life candidate in
24:23
that judge's race in Wisconsin, was he, was it a he or she he?
24:29
Was he talking persuasively about abortion, or did he kind
24:32
of run away from it? Ran away from it, OK.
24:35
This and this happened last fall with the midterms.
24:37
Tell us more about that. Actually, no, because I know
24:38
we've talked about that a lot before.
24:40
What happened in the midterms last fall, people said, oh,
24:42
pro-life lost so badly in the midterms and therefore we
24:46
shouldn't continue to run on it. But what really happened?
24:50
Well, I mean, the, you know, the, the 2022 midterms in the
24:53
fall, they were mixed bag for pro-life voters.
24:57
You know, pro-life forces did take control of the House of
24:59
Representatives, which is a big deal and which is a good thing.
25:02
We did not win the Senate. We lost a couple key salient
25:04
Senate races, right. Two that I think of a lot is
25:07
Pennsylvania. You know, Doctor Oz, the
25:08
Republican and ostensibly pro-life.
25:10
Candle, who is not pro-life, I mean.
25:12
That right, that's a big part of the problem is, you know, we
25:14
have we have people like Doctor Oz who's been pro abortion his
25:17
entire career, you know, and as a doctor, you know, been pro
25:19
abortion. And so saying he speaks pro-life
25:22
is a second language is an understatement.
25:24
You know, it's like, is he even sincerely pro-life?
25:27
He wasn't good at talking about it.
25:28
He barely mentioned it. And So what happens it it it's
25:30
like, it's like if you're playing basketball and you know,
25:33
you're doing man on man defense, but one side isn't actually
25:36
defending. And so the other side is, is
25:37
scoring, scoring, scoring and the other the other side isn't
25:39
defending. Because if your if your opponent
25:41
is pillaring you as a, you know, a pro-life extremist to who
25:44
wants to do all these things that are unpopular and you
25:47
refuse to say the word abortion or talk about when life begins
25:50
or why children deserve protection.
25:51
You know, an attack unanswered is an attack accepted.
25:54
You know what I mean, Lila? It's so true.
25:56
And that's what happened in the midterm is we were outspent the
25:59
pro-life, you mentioned one, I think 1% of pro-life money spent
26:03
in this Senate or in this, excuse me, the Supreme Court
26:07
race, this court race versus 40% pro abortion money spent in the
26:12
fall of last year during the midterms of months leading up to
26:14
the midterms, it was I think a dollar, pro-life dollar for
26:18
every 32, was it 32 to 40? It was over $30 to every $1.00
26:24
pro abortion money versus pro-life money.
26:26
So the pro abortion side outspent the pro-life side
26:29
dramatically, I mean dramatically.
26:31
And so this whole talking. Point and you have other
26:34
candidates, right, like Herschel Walker in Georgia, another
26:37
extremely important Senate race. You know Georgia's a pro-life
26:40
state that has a very popular pro-life governor Brian Kemp,
26:43
who is re elected by a wide margin.
26:44
But then you have Herschel Walker for the Senate candidate,
26:47
who did speak pro-life language but was credibly accused of
26:51
paying for multiple abortions in his own.
26:53
Personal life is. That galvanizing to pro-life
26:56
voters. I did not cry when Hershel
26:58
Walker lost. I mean it's sad that he was beat
27:01
by a pro abortion maniac. Effectively it was a mania the
27:06
how pro abortion the the Democrat side is right now.
27:09
But yes, I mean, the problem is if you put 4 bad, if you put
27:12
forth bad candidates and they're not talking winsomely on life
27:16
and then you don't spend any money to defend the pro-life
27:18
position. Don't go around blaming the
27:21
pro-life message for your failure as a leader and your
27:25
failure as a running a campaign. But unfortunately that's what
27:30
this weird thing has happened. It's like the pro-life community
27:32
has become this scapegoat and basically preborn children have
27:38
become the scape scapegoat. Defending preborn children is so
27:41
hard to do that I can't keep doing it.
27:43
You didn't even try. You didn't even try.
27:46
And the proof that I have and that we have, Noah, for why you
27:50
can win when you try is states like Texas and increasingly
27:55
states like Florida, and let's talk about that for a minute.
27:57
People say, well, it's so unpopular to do abortion bans.
28:01
Texas has an abortion ban right now.
28:04
Governor Abbott won his re election governor campaign
28:07
despite incredible opposition. Governor DeSantis won in a
28:12
landslide victory in Florida, his re election campaign, and he
28:17
just passed the heartbeat ban in Texas.
28:20
Now they have exceptions in the law that I don't like,
28:22
exceptions for children conceiving rape and incest, that
28:24
it's OK to kill those children. It's only protecting children
28:27
after six weeks. But it's a big step forward from
28:30
the 15 week abortion ban that the state had before that.
28:33
And he got a lot of pushback. I mean, people were saying, oh,
28:36
fifteen week abortion ban is enough.
28:37
Like if you go any more extreme than that, then it's going to be
28:40
unpopular. Did you know that 62% of
28:44
Floridians support the heartbeat law in Texas, including a
28:47
majority of Democrats? Yeah, a majority of Democrats
28:51
support the heartbeat law in Texas, according to the latest
28:54
polling. So what are any other thoughts
28:56
on that, Noah? Just on the popular how popular
28:59
these laws actually are when it's coupled with leadership
29:04
that is persuasive and unapologetic.
29:07
Well, I'll, I'll say I give a lot of credit to just in my
29:09
personal capacity to Governor DeSantis.
29:11
You know, he won this huge re election.
29:13
He had, he had political capital to spend, But you know,
29:16
political capital as in using your influence to do something,
29:19
it's always limited. And so him using his political
29:21
capital to take Florida from a 15 week state where you can get
29:25
abortion for 15 weeks to six weeks is going to save thousands
29:28
and thousands of lives. And it is going to stop Florida
29:31
from being an abortion destination.
29:32
You know, we just had some numbers come out.
29:34
So every 10 years, right, the country does a census, but
29:37
there's little updates every single year that you can look
29:39
for if you know where to find them.
29:41
And so even in this last census, from 2010 to 2020, states like
29:44
Texas and Florida grew by the 1,000,000.
29:46
States like California lost hundreds of thousands.
29:49
But data just came out from July of 2021 to July of 2022.
29:53
So the most recent data get this Lila, California loses 218,000
29:58
people. In that same time, Texas gains
30:01
350,000 and Florida gains 444,000.
30:06
And so these are pro. So these are people moving from
30:08
pro abortion states, right? Illinois, New York, with the
30:10
some of the other most extreme pro abortion states also lost
30:13
significant amounts of people. And they're moving to states
30:15
that value life. And there's a lot of other good
30:17
reasons to move to those states. But I think that it's like if,
30:20
if pro-life laws were as anatomic or as unpopular as the
30:24
media likes to tell us, then people will be fleeing these
30:27
states. But instead, people are fleeing
30:28
the abortion havens and moving to the places that protect life.
30:32
I, I hope that those that flee don't go try to promote for
30:36
abortion law in their, in their other states.
30:38
I mean, it's a, it's a mixed bag, right, Because the people
30:41
leave in California. I mean, I'm, we're in
30:43
California, obviously I'm in California and I believe still
30:46
in the future of the state. I think we still have a future.
30:49
It's going to be rough, but we got to stay hang in there.
30:51
And a lot of the people leaving, unfortunately, many of them are
30:54
good people that we need their votes.
30:56
And then some of them are maybe like you're saying, maybe people
31:00
who support abortion, but it's they don't support it so much
31:02
that they wouldn't move to Florida or Texas, as you say.
31:04
So I think, listen, I have seen I've been in this media world
31:09
since I was a teenager and I have seen the power of a
31:13
narrative, a completely false narrative to effectively
31:17
brainwash everyday good people and get people to live a lie and
31:21
believe a lie. And I think that's what's
31:23
happening right now with this whole pro-life is a losing
31:25
issue. Is it is a brainwashing
31:29
narrative that you say the truth and the lie enough times it
31:32
becomes it becomes just reality for people that we're just
31:35
getting blasted with from left and right that oh, it's a
31:38
state's issue. It's not a federal issue.
31:40
Oh, let the, you know, states do what they want.
31:43
Oh, it's not a winning issue. And then when somebody like De
31:47
Santis dares to pass a six week abortion ban despite his little
31:49
consultants telling him don't do it, and he passes it and then he
31:54
gets a majority of Democrat support in his own state.
31:58
Where's the headline on that? Where's the headline on that?
32:01
The headlines I saw after Governor De Santis passed the
32:05
heartbeat law two weeks ago was, did he just jeopardize his
32:09
future run? I mean, that was the headline.
32:12
Majority of Democrats supported it in his state.
32:15
I mean, I like to say that 10 times.
32:17
Get that narrative in or the true narrative into our head.
32:19
Or I did like AI did a Twitter Spaces after that.
32:23
Twitter Spaces is this thing for Twitter geeks where you go into
32:25
this big online room and you talk to each other and there are
32:29
several 1000 people in it. And the Twitter Spaces was, oh,
32:33
did DeSantis sync his career with this heartbeat lot?
32:36
I'm like, what are you guys even talking about?
32:39
He's wildly popular and the majority of even Democrats
32:42
support this and, and a, and a good majority of the state
32:46
supports this. And yet you're talking like he
32:48
just killed his career. Like where did that narrative
32:49
come from? And unfortunately some folks on
32:54
the pro-life side, so to speak, is supporting that narrative.
32:57
So we're going deep here. Let's get into it.
33:00
The candidates, the 2024 candidates, and I know Noah, you
33:04
have a lot of opinions here. Yes.
33:05
Listen, Lila, unlike you, I, I love this stuff.
33:07
I love, I love the, I love the, the political reality show a
33:11
bit. You know that?
33:12
Who's in, who's out? Who's going to win?
33:13
Who's going to lose? That's why you're good at your
33:15
job. OK, so where to start?
33:20
I'm going to start with the big guy.
33:21
I'm going to start with President Trump.
33:23
And I have been critical of President Trump recently, and
33:28
I've gotten some Flack for it, mostly from like Twitter people
33:31
and folks on e-mail who send me emails that are pretty crass,
33:36
actually. But I don't want to dwell on
33:37
that. I want to focus on what he
33:39
actually said. So President Trump, well, he was
33:43
president, obviously appointed justices to our court that went
33:48
on to help overturn Roe V Wade. And so that was tremendous.
33:52
That was tremendous, yeah. People Republicans have been
33:55
promising this for decades. Yes, it was huge.
33:57
And if it hadn't been President Trump, it had.
33:59
If it had been a different Republican president, it might
34:01
have happened or it might not have happened.
34:03
Some people listening are very opinionated about this saying,
34:05
oh, it would have never happened.
34:06
We've got have gotten terrible appointees to the Supreme Court.
34:09
And other people were like, well, if we had another strong
34:10
leader, we could have had good appointees either way.
34:13
Either way, that's what happened during his presidency.
34:15
Now, there are some other issues during his presidency.
34:18
As an example, Planned Parenthood funding actually went
34:19
up throughout his presidency. Not a lot of people know that.
34:23
But you know, HHS did do some things that were pro-life, the
34:26
Health and Human Services department that he had control
34:30
over as a part of the executive branch.
34:31
But I think they could have done a lot more.
34:33
And I was working behind the scenes to try to get them to do
34:35
more and they didn't do more. So that was a disappointment.
34:38
But all of that is sort of besides the point because what I
34:41
care about today is what he is leading on as a candidate on
34:45
life. And I have a lot of other issues
34:47
with President Trump which I'm not going to get into.
34:50
That being said, President Trump recently came out and said what?
34:55
Noah, I'll let you. I'll let you share that.
34:57
He said it through a spokesman, but so a spokesman said for his
35:01
campaign that President Trump was the most pro-life president
35:03
ever. He appointed the judges who
35:05
overturned Roe V Wade. But now abortion is purely a
35:09
state level issue. Yeah, So President Trump is
35:11
basically saying I'm done, I'm done.
35:13
We got real overturned. I, you guys should basically
35:17
kind of worship me forever. I mean, he really wants us to
35:20
thank him forever for that. And if I'm president again, I'm
35:24
not going to do anything at the federal level.
35:26
And I think this is extremely toxic.
35:29
It what is the whole all these candidates for decades have run
35:32
on a human life amendment. They've run on human life at
35:35
Conception Act at the federal level.
35:37
They've run on protections for children at the federal level.
35:41
And to say that now Roe is gone, though the whole thing holding
35:45
us back, the reason we don't have a life at Conception Act
35:48
federally is because of Roe V Wade.
35:51
Now that Roe V Wade is gone, they're saying we're not going
35:53
to do anything with the victory we were just given.
35:56
We're going to literally leave the victory on the field and
35:59
walk away when millions of lives are at risk.
36:02
In what universe is that sane? Just it's a certainly not
36:08
courageous. It's cowardice.
36:10
It's weird cowardice though. It's like extremely illogical
36:14
and defeatist cow. It's like you're being a coward
36:17
when you don't even need to be a coward.
36:19
You don't need to be a coward and.
36:22
What what you're saying, Lila, about leaving the victory on the
36:24
field. Listen, overturning Roe V Wade,
36:26
like we said, I mean, obviously huge, huge victory, but it's a
36:30
victory that put pro-life Americans in most States and
36:33
certainly federally just just at the beginning of the race, you
36:36
know, it made it to where we could run the race like Roe V
36:38
Wade just said, you know, abortion's a constitutional
36:41
right. You cannot pass any pro-life
36:42
laws that are that are meaningful.
36:44
And so by the court saying that's not true and setting us
36:47
back to, I guess you could say this neutral.
36:48
And I think that that's wrong. I think the Constitution does
36:50
protect life, but the Supreme Court this moment says that, you
36:53
know, the Constitution doesn't weigh in either way and States
36:55
and the federal government can do whatever they want.
36:57
Yes, it's a big victory by being here, but it's not actually
37:00
protecting children. So for a pro-life candidate who
37:02
thinks abortion is wrong to say the federal government shouldn't
37:05
be doing anything. I mean, it's, are you even
37:08
pro-life personally? Like if, if you, what do you
37:11
think about this, Lila? If someone says they're pro-life
37:13
personally but is not interested in the in the government and
37:15
especially our national government doing something to
37:17
stop abortion, are they pro-life?
37:19
No, they're not. And I, I mean, President Biden
37:21
even says he's personally pro-life.
37:23
I don't know if you've heard that, but he said he personally,
37:25
I mean, years ago anyways, he said that he doesn't personally
37:29
support abortion, but he supports a woman's right
37:31
legally. So yeah, you can.
37:33
You can, you can have all kind of all kind of nonsense reasons
37:37
for defending your bad political strategy, but it doesn't make
37:42
you a good candidate. It makes you a bad candidate.
37:45
And people need to know. So that's why we're talking
37:47
about this. What's your response to Lila?
37:48
So after this statement came out, you and, and our friends at
37:52
Susan B Anthony Pro-life America and some other great pro-life
37:54
leaders, students for Life said that President Trump's comments
37:57
were unacceptable, that that the pro, the pro-life president or
38:00
the Republican pro-life presidential candidate needs to
38:02
support federal action. And then it came out through,
38:05
you know, who knows the complete validity of this, but through
38:07
some unnamed sources that President Trump is extremely
38:10
upset about this and saying that the pro-life movement should,
38:12
should be grateful. They should be grateful for him
38:14
and everything he does. So why aren't you grateful?
38:16
Yeah. I mean, you can be grateful that
38:18
somebody did something really, really good a few years ago.
38:21
And then when they do something really bad, you call him out on
38:23
it. So I, I think this sort of like
38:25
blind loyalty to a personality is horribly toxic when it comes
38:32
to real lives on the line because our job is not
38:36
tribalism, our job is justice and our job is protecting the
38:39
most vulnerable. And I don't know, I think it's
38:43
completely disqualifying. It is disqualifying for any
38:49
candidate to say the federal government, basically, I as a
38:52
bleeder have no role post Roe V. Wade in defending preborn lives.
38:58
And unfortunately, that's what President Trump has done.
39:00
And so he's disqualified himself from the nomination.
39:02
That alone. I mean, there's other things you
39:03
can argue are disqualifying too, but we're not going to get into
39:06
that. I would say he's disqualified on
39:08
life. And he is not the right leader
39:11
for that. And I also think there's a lot
39:12
of other reasons he's not the right leader and.
39:15
And I won't speak for you, Lila, but it's like I encourage
39:17
President Trump to walk back these comments and welcome him
39:20
to embrace an aggressive federal role for protecting human life.
39:24
You. Know, I mean, it would be smart
39:25
if he wants to even have a shot, but I don't know.
39:28
I don't know if he's going to do it.
39:29
One more thing, Lila, just about the the conflict and what
39:32
President Trump say about loyalty.
39:34
You know, I really think that voters, especially in our
39:37
country, it's like we should care more about ideas and policy
39:40
than candidates. You know, candidates at the end
39:42
of the day are vessels for ideas and policy.
39:46
And so there should never be such a loyalty or an affinity
39:49
for a candidate that you're willing to kind of put down like
39:52
the the actual policies and ideas you support.
39:54
I agree with that 100%. It's hard because in today's
39:57
kind of social media media world, it's so easy to just vote
40:01
based on like your gut impression of somebody and that,
40:05
you know, regardless of their actual track record, regardless
40:09
of like facts about them, you're still going to go with sort of
40:12
your the likability factor. And yeah, I think it'd be a
40:16
discerning voter, you know, be a high information voter, right?
40:19
Low information voters. They just kind of get this pop
40:22
culture impression of somebody and go off of that versus like
40:24
doing the research and understanding where the voter
40:26
actually or the candidate actually stands.
40:29
OK, well, let's move on from President Trump.
40:31
And by the way, everybody listening, I'd love your input
40:34
and your thoughts on this. You can send me an e-mail.
40:37
It's Lila at gtvmedia.com. Did I get that right?
40:40
Franco Lila at GT and Franco's our awesome
40:44
producerlila@gtbmedia.com. Send me your thoughts.
40:47
I'd love to hear them. We'll do mailbags and ask me
40:49
anything's in the future. We're going to do one at the end
40:51
of this episode here in a little bit.
40:53
But let's go talk about the other candidates.
40:55
So there's not just Trump in the race right now already we've got
40:58
several others. We're going to blast through a
41:00
few of them. Not everybody has announced yet.
41:02
There's probably more to come, but we've got a few and let's
41:05
just look at where they stand right now.
41:07
What's the sort of trend, what is the trend of the candidates
41:11
positions on abortion right now? And we can help be trend makers
41:15
by the way, you listening, if you get involved in politics,
41:18
you can be a trend setter in the response that you have to these
41:23
candidates with what they say early on.
41:26
They really care about you. They really care about what you
41:29
think about them because they are desperate for the
41:31
nomination. So your opinion, what you say on
41:34
social media, they have like their consultant social media
41:37
listening mechanisms, what you letters to the editor that
41:39
you're writing, the people that you're talking to, how you're
41:42
responding in polls, like it really matters.
41:44
It makes a big difference right now.
41:45
So please, please, please use your voice to demand to call for
41:50
pro-life, real pro-life leadership.
41:52
OK, let's start with Nikki Haley.
41:54
I think she's pulling out, what, 1% Noah?
41:56
Yeah, a little bit between 1:00 and. 5 Now I think Nikki Haley
41:59
comes across as a very classy lady.
42:00
First, let me just say that I like that she is.
42:04
You know, I think, I think a lot of people were impressed with
42:07
her as an ambassador because she seemed to stand up so strongly
42:10
for our values to the United Nations, right?
42:13
Was that the to? The UN?
42:15
Yep, she was the US Ambassador to the UN.
42:17
So I think well, she because she actually had, she actually had
42:20
run insurance where she would present our values and she did
42:23
it in a strong way. So I think that's really likable
42:26
and really good, obviously, but unfortunately she's really weak
42:31
on life. And she actually just gave a
42:32
speech this week at Susan B Anthony List headquarters and I
42:37
tweeted my impression of it, which was that this is not the
42:40
leadership pro lifers are looking for.
42:42
She said that obviously she went the Trump talking point that
42:46
abortion is up to the states Now.
42:48
I think she did say she signed pro-life legislation, but she's
42:52
not like going to lead on it. And then she, she had some good
42:55
things to say about protecting life at conception.
42:57
So that's good. I mean, she, she had the right
42:59
talking points about the value of life, but the sort of
43:02
political piece of, OK, they're human, so they deserve
43:04
protection. That wasn't the connection.
43:06
And then the last thing that she did that I really didn't like.
43:08
And then I'll, I'm, I'm sure your thoughts too, Noah was she
43:11
said that we need more contraception and we'll do more
43:14
episodes on this in the future. But contraception is not this
43:17
antidote to abortion. I mean, that's another popular
43:20
pot talking point media narrative.
43:23
Contraception actually creates A mindset and culture that sex has
43:26
nothing to do with children and that you should have consequence
43:29
free sex as an adult or as anybody.
43:31
And therefore if you get pregnant on birth control, you
43:34
should have the backup option of abortion.
43:37
And in fact, 50% of people who have abortions, they were on
43:41
birth control the month they got pregnant.
43:43
So people using birth control are getting abortions.
43:46
Birth control actually creates an abortion culture.
43:49
That's my opinion. That's also what a lot of social
43:50
data says. We'll talk about that more in
43:52
the future, but what are your thoughts on Nikki Haley?
43:54
Well, I think there's a couple things are important to say
43:55
about someone like Governor Haley is that she was a good
43:58
ambassador, like you said. I think in a lot of ways she was
44:00
a good governor. She signed pro-life legislation
44:02
that came to her desk, not super aggressive, but but still good,
44:05
good pro-life legislation. I think she's a good
44:07
communicator for life. I believe that she is pro-life.
44:10
I believe she thinks abortion is wrong.
44:11
She told even in her speech this week, a beautiful story about
44:14
her husbands, her husband being adopted and how that her
44:17
husbands, you know, that potentially her husbands mother
44:21
could have gotten abortion and she wouldn't have her family.
44:23
She struggled with with fertility issues, having
44:25
conceiving children on how that impacts her pro-life narrative.
44:28
And so I think the reason I bring those up is I think, and
44:31
you would agree that, you know, politics is all about
44:34
storytelling. And so both of those stories are
44:36
good anchors to then go. And that's why I believe we
44:38
shouldn't be indiscriminately killing our children and we need
44:40
to fully protect life. But unfortunately she doesn't
44:43
she doesn't go into that next step, which is important.
44:45
And she falls into the exact trap that you lay out in your
44:48
Wall Street Journal article, which is she's, she immediately
44:50
says, well, you know, the, the most aggressive pro-life
44:53
protections are too unpopular nationally.
44:56
And we can't expect, you know, the things we're seeing out of
44:58
Texas or Florida to happen on the national level.
45:01
And I, it just, it is sad because when you say something
45:03
like we can't expect it, it's like, what, well, what are you
45:06
doing here as a political leader?
45:07
If you're not here to, to move the narrative and, and talk
45:11
about what's right? You know, so it's like they'd be
45:13
when you're, when you're running for president, when you're
45:15
making these speeches and these policy commitments, you're
45:17
saying what you think is ideal. And so it's sad when you can't
45:21
lay out that you think would be ideal to end abortion and
45:23
protect children. Well said, Noah.
45:26
I agree, Nikki Haley and my book is not our solution.
45:30
So let's keep looking at who we've got to consider.
45:32
And by the way, I'm not making any kind of announcement about
45:34
who I'm endorsing or if even if I will endorse.
45:36
But this is more an initial analysis and thoughts on these
45:39
candidates. Every candidate has the
45:40
capacity, I mean it's the beginning of 2023 to move in the
45:43
right direction. Absolutely, absolutely.
45:45
That's an important point. OK.
45:46
A couple others we're just going to run through with the time we
45:48
have is Larry Elder. Larry Elder also announced his
45:52
candidacy. He is someone that I actually
45:55
endorsed in the govern governor recall, recall Gavin Newsom
46:00
special election for governor. This was last year, I think.
46:04
And I don't really endorse candidates.
46:06
I do it very sparingly, but I did it because I, you know, it's
46:09
kind of a Hail Mary pass to try to get our, our governor to
46:14
change, you know, our our leadership here in California to
46:16
change. And I thought he had a little
46:18
shot, a little shot because there's a lot of unrest about
46:20
Gavin Newsom being governor of California with the pet, the way
46:23
he handled the pandemic, the way he handles crime, the way he
46:25
handles so many things. And I've always see his
46:26
extremism on abortion doesn't help.
46:28
And Larry Elder promised me when I endorsed him that he would be
46:33
for he would not do anything to expand abortion, that he would
46:36
be for complete protection if there was the opportunity, and
46:40
that he would work to defund all abortion in the state of
46:43
California. So I thought that was good as a
46:46
presidential candidate. I don't know that life is his
46:49
big issue. I mean, I haven't seen that
46:52
historically with him even in his punditry, in his talk show.
46:55
I, I, I don't know that, you know, I, I won't say he's like a
46:59
true boot, blue pro-life king, you know, leader.
47:04
So I don't know that it's kind of early to tell.
47:06
Any thoughts on Larry Eldernoa? Yeah.
47:07
I mean, I don't think that, Larry.
47:09
Has he weighed in on federal versus states yet?
47:11
He he certainly, certainly hasn't since he announced his
47:13
presidential campaign. But I, I once again, Larry
47:16
Elder, another person that I, I believe is pro-life and I also
47:18
believe he's a really compelling advocate, but especially someone
47:21
like Larry Elder that, you know, I don't wouldn't mean to be
47:24
disrespectful to him. I don't think he's considered a
47:26
front runner for the campaign right now.
47:27
So a great differentiator for him would be taking an extremely
47:30
strong stance on defending preborn children.
47:34
Because that, that's the thing, you know, a lot of people are
47:36
always afraid when there's too many candidates running, You
47:38
know, it's like that, it gets muddied.
47:40
The good thing about having multiple candidates running for
47:42
the presidency is it can push the whole field in the right
47:45
direction on certain issues. So.
47:47
So that that's why as we go through these candidates, even
47:49
the ones that might not be considered kind of a plus these
47:52
this, this person is odd. The odds on winner.
47:54
It's like I encourage them. It's like the field is wide
47:56
open. Take take the pro-life mantle
47:58
because it'll it'll push the whole field in the right
48:01
direction. So, so true.
48:03
OK, let's do one more. There's also Vivek, he wrote
48:07
Roke Inc. And his last name, Noah.
48:08
Can you pronounce his last name? I.
48:10
Think it's Ramswami. Ramswami Vivek Ramswami, he
48:13
wrote Woke Inc. He's the kind of entrepreneur
48:15
guy who is sort of kind of an independent in his approach, but
48:20
he's running as a Republican and he's, you know, he seems to be
48:26
passionate about espousing conservative principles so far.
48:30
I mean, he's kind of new to the scene.
48:31
I actually will probably have Vivek on my podcast soon.
48:34
We're going to try to interview these different candidates in
48:37
coming months. But thoughts on Vivek?
48:40
Yeah, I mean, I think Vivek, you know, he he's approaching his
48:45
campaign from the stance of an entrepreneur.
48:47
You know, I think is interesting.
48:49
He's approaching his campaign sort of taking on cultural
48:52
issues first, which is in life is a cultural issue.
48:54
I think he's mostly been focusing on kind of the woke
48:57
agenda, right, of maybe issues having to do with sexuality and
49:01
transgenderism. And he has said that.
49:03
He has said he is pro-life. But once again, he has not come
49:06
out with a full position on how he thinks abortion should be
49:10
handled in the human rights to life protected.
49:12
And so listen to Vivek and hopefully maybe you have a
49:14
conversation with him in the future, you know, you should
49:17
come out for full federal protection, you know?
49:19
Well, let's see, maybe he'll announce that on the podcast.
49:21
We'll see. Awesome.
49:23
OK. And then there's obviously
49:24
everybody who's thinking about him.
49:26
He has not announced yet. It's likely.
49:28
I mean, we're thinking he's going to Governor DeSantis.
49:31
And so I do want to talk briefly about him.
49:33
Again, not announced yet, but I like some of the things I've
49:37
seen so far. Obviously, it was good to see
49:39
him sign the heartbeat law into into law, the heartbeat bill
49:44
into law. I don't like that the heartbeat
49:46
law is just a heartbeat lot. It doesn't protect all the
49:48
children just at the heartbeat. And then he has these exceptions
49:51
in there that I thought were completely unnecessary.
49:52
Obviously, you know, not protecting a child because
49:55
they're conceived in rape is ridiculous.
49:57
And a woman is not benefited or healed from the trauma of rape
50:01
by having an abortion. I mean, an abortion is another
50:03
trauma. So to tell a, a victim of
50:06
trauma, survivor of trauma that she needs an abortion, I think
50:09
is not good mouth medicine or healthcare.
50:11
It's more traumatizing and it's wrong to that child, of course.
50:15
So I don't like that, but I do like that he's bold.
50:19
He has some of that boldness that people found attractive in
50:22
Trump, but I don't think he has all the baggage.
50:25
I don't know that. We'll see.
50:26
We'll see what he ends up doing on life as a federal, at the
50:31
federal level. You know what he says he'll do?
50:33
He has implicated or insinuated a couple times that he believes
50:37
it's a states rights issue. Have you seen that, Noah?
50:40
I don't like that that's that's really bad.
50:42
So he'd better clean that up before he runs.
50:45
If he runs on, it's a states rights issue.
50:48
He's in the Trump camp. It's just disqualifying.
50:51
Yeah, you know, he, he, he's not a candidate yet, but like you
50:54
said, and I do just, I, I give him a lot of credit because
50:58
there's a lot of things that a governor can put their focus on
51:01
and using, using his focus and, and the power of his agenda to
51:06
move Florida really dramatically in the pro-life direction.
51:09
I think is a is a really big win.
51:11
I mean, because people literally it's like because all the states
51:13
around Florida have full bands. So Georgia has a six week ban.
51:15
All the other states have full, full protections for life.
51:18
And so people were coming from Florida from across the South to
51:21
get abortions and that's going to be extremely challenging now
51:24
and a really good move and save, save a lot of children by moving
51:28
that protection to, to six weeks.
51:30
But yeah, they, that we can't, I, I can't exactly analyze what
51:33
he said on the federal level because so far he's stuck to
51:36
just what he thinks his his state should do.
51:38
But I, I hope he, I mean, I just encourage every single
51:40
candidate, you know, read the 14th Amendment to the
51:43
Constitution. It's, you know, that the 14th
51:45
Amendment was one of these Civil War amendments.
51:47
So the 13th Amendment abolished slavery.
51:49
And then the 14th amendment, which was passed right around
51:51
the same time the 1860s, extended equal protection and
51:55
due process under the law. And So what that means is that
51:58
any state that has a homicide law, which is all 50 states,
52:01
it's illegal to murder someone in all 50 states.
52:03
That in all 50 states it should be illegal to kill a pre born
52:07
person because that's all the the 14th amendment says is
52:10
person. And person was understood at the
52:12
time, as it's understood now to to mean from the moment someone
52:15
comes into existence, which is a moment of fertilization.
52:18
Absolutely. Person is human is a human
52:21
right. Thank you Noah, I will.
52:22
We should do this again, especially when we hear more
52:24
announcements and more updates. But that was great, a great run
52:27
through. I hope this was helpful for
52:28
folks listening as an initial entry into what's going on with
52:33
the playing field, the political playing field and life right
52:36
now. All right, so now we're going to
52:38
go to Ask Me Anything and I've got some questions in.
52:41
We're going to start with Instagram questions.
52:43
OK, first one, a personal one. Do you want more kids?
52:46
How many? This is from Maria.
52:49
OK, I have two kids, as many of you might know, 2 little kids,
52:51
A1 year old and a three-year old.
52:52
And I would love more kids. Kids are the best.
52:56
I tell my husband all the time. I can't wait to have more.
52:58
And so, yeah, it'd be awesome to have at least 5, at least five
53:01
kids would be amazing. OK, here's a question from
53:04
somebody who just asked. Is this from a teen?
53:06
It says as a teen in a strong, healthy relationship, I'm
53:10
finding it hard not to get too physical.
53:11
Any suggestions? This is about purity or chastity
53:14
in your dating relationship. And first of all, I would say as
53:17
a teen, I think dating can be totally a good thing.
53:20
But keep in mind the purpose of dating in the end is to for you
53:24
to grow as a person, for the person that you're dating to
53:26
grow as a person and to discern if you're supposed to marry this
53:29
person. So if you're a very young teen
53:31
and you're dating, I would just question that like, is this what
53:33
you want to be spending your time in and investing yourself
53:36
in this relationship? When ultimately are you prepared
53:40
to be married soon? And it's likely that you're not.
53:42
So that would be the first thing is just kind of reconsidering or
53:45
reframing the way you approach relationships at a young age.
53:48
You know, for me, I didn't start dating seriously until I was in
53:51
college. And even then I wasn't like all
53:54
in because I was thinking about all these other things I felt
53:57
called to do and I didn't think I was going to be getting
53:58
married soon. And so I just think that needs
54:00
to be part of the, the, the, the thought process in even deciding
54:04
to date period. Secondly, when it comes to
54:07
boundaries in a dating relationship, I mean, this is a
54:09
great question because you already know from the question
54:11
that when you're dating, you're not married.
54:14
So sex is for marriage, right? And so not for dating.
54:18
And you want to be, you want to have boundaries that are
54:20
ultimately very loving for yourself and this person because
54:23
they're not your spouse and you want to have intimacy with only
54:26
your spouse. And so I would just say, listen,
54:30
to evaluate what are the things that make it difficult for us to
54:34
have those boundaries? You know, are we spending a lot
54:36
of time alone together in the evenings as an example?
54:38
Or are we, you know, kissing each other?
54:41
And that's making us want to go further.
54:43
And so should we walk that back and say maybe we're going to not
54:46
do all of this kissing and we're going to instead just do like a
54:49
quick kiss and say hello and then that's it?
54:51
You know, I think having boundaries to recognize that
54:55
there's a process to intimacy and it starts with a lot of
54:58
physical affection. And if it gets sexual, then that
55:00
leads to more sexual things. And so don't do sexual things
55:03
with your boyfriend or your girlfriend.
55:05
That would be my, my, my advice. Just don't do it.
55:08
And if it's really hard, you keep finding yourself falling
55:10
into it, then take yourself out of those occasions where it's
55:13
easier to fall into doing that. And that might look like you
55:18
don't spend time together at night, or it might look like,
55:21
you know, in a practical level, you're just judicious about how
55:25
you spend your time together. But I think that makes a huge
55:28
difference because bonding happens with close physical
55:33
relationship. And you know, on a moral
55:35
perspective, obviously it's designed for marriage, not just
55:38
for dating or just another person that's not your spouse.
55:41
So it's really great that you think about this, keep thinking
55:43
about it, and, yeah, be an example.
55:46
Be an example in your relationship to others, and it
55:48
won't be inspiring for other people.
55:50
Here's one. How do we lovingly convert AOC
55:53
to be pro-life? I think this should be the goal.
55:55
What a great question. It's cute.
55:58
I mean, listen, I always say we should pray for our opposition,
56:01
our political opponents. I pray for Gavin Newsom.
56:04
I think we should pray for President Biden.
56:05
I think we should pray for AOC. I think we should pray for
56:08
conversion. Conversions do happen.
56:10
They do. Ronald Reagan was president,
56:13
obviously he was the president, but before that he was governor.
56:15
Ronald Reagan was governor of California.
56:17
He signed pro abortion legislation.
56:19
So he supported abortion as governor and then he ended up
56:21
becoming really pro-life. So that change is possible.
56:25
So yeah, pray for AOC. I love that.
56:27
If you get, here's a, here's a good rule of thumb.
56:28
If you get mad at people on the Internet, right, you're reading
56:32
news stories, you get mad at politicians, you get, you know,
56:35
you get mad or really concerned, let's say maybe you're not the
56:38
angry type who responds with like frustration and anger.
56:40
You respond with just sorrow and sadness.
56:43
That's for me, by the way, I kind of get depressed.
56:46
If you get sad or mad, use that emotion to triggering you.
56:50
A habit of saying a prayer for that person or that situation.
56:53
It transforms the entire experience where now you are a
56:57
force for good. And that media consumption that
56:59
you just did, which maybe you don't need to do, but you did
57:02
it. Whatever we all do it.
57:03
You're now turning it into an actual prayer so it's union
57:06
between you and God. And then you're actually asking
57:09
for God and his grace on that situation or person.
57:11
It's really an amazing thing. So that's that's one thing.
57:14
I love this. Yes, convert AOC through prayer.
57:16
That's the first step. Here's another one.
57:18
How do you stay grounded when you have so many commitments
57:21
with family, travel, etcetera? I mean, I'm super blessed to
57:25
have a husband who is just a good normal in the sense that he
57:30
is down to earth grounded person with good wisdom and good
57:36
balance in his own life. So that's hugely a blessing that
57:41
I have a spouse that and I really when I was discerning to
57:44
marry him and get married, it was like that was valuable to
57:47
me. Just have someone that was
57:49
really balanced and really wise and really healthy as a human
57:53
being. So that helps a lot.
57:55
And having routines, you know, that are going to keep me
58:01
balanced are key to good sleep. Taking time to pray.
58:05
I, I will say that being a mom and, you know, being a parent
58:08
and putting my kids, you know, they're first.
58:11
I'm thinking about them when I go to sleep.
58:12
I think about them when I wake up and I'm caring for them
58:14
throughout the day. And you know, we, we, we're
58:17
parents, right? That automatically grounds you a
58:20
lot. I don't, you know, when I do
58:23
travel, I don't leave. I actually don't leave my I
58:29
never leave my youngest son. I always take him with me.
58:32
And when I have left my older son, I only leave him for one
58:35
night and only a few weeks at a time.
58:36
Meaning like every I'll go a few weeks and then maybe leave him
58:39
one night and then go a few weeks.
58:40
So I try to very rarely miss bedtime and so I will do evening
58:46
events but sparingly. So I just think that like having
58:48
balance where I don't, I don't think that my work is so
58:51
important that it can deprive my boys of their mother primarily,
58:56
you know, that I, I make sure I'm there for them
58:58
significantly, not just quantity, quality time, but
59:00
quantity time. And I'll say no to things work
59:03
wise to ensure that I'm there with my boys.
59:06
And that in and of itself is grounding because I'm not the
59:09
center of the universe. You know, my work is not the
59:11
center of the universe, even though this mission, the mission
59:15
for goodness, truth and beauty, the mission for pro-life,
59:17
there's such important missions to me.
59:19
I don't, you know, I don't have this mentality that I am the
59:22
savior and I'm going to be the one to accomplish it myself.
59:25
You know, it's God, right? And I'm just a tool.
59:27
And I could be a bad tool if I have bad balance in my personal
59:29
life. So I think having that mentality
59:33
makes a big difference. Lighthearted and lovely.
59:35
Waffles or pancakes? OK, definitely depends on my
59:39
mood. Waffles, delicious.
59:42
I can make the most amazing waffles and pancakes.
59:44
I've perfected the art. We do this on the weekends
59:46
usually as a family. And you can make a really bad
59:49
waffle or a really good one depending on your griddle and
59:52
your recipe. But I right now I think I'm in a
59:54
pancake mode because I overdid waffles for weeks and weeks and
59:57
weeks. We just had waffles every
59:58
Sunday. Now I'm doing pancakes, but
1:00:00
they're both awesome. All right guys, that's it for
1:00:03
questions today. We will answer more on future
1:00:05
episodes. Let me know you guys think about
1:00:07
this format. You know, I've been doing a lot
1:00:09
of interviews, but I do love to just talk.
1:00:12
And yeah, I was talking with Noah.
1:00:13
He's fantastic. But I love your thoughts.
1:00:15
Should we keep doing solo episodes?
1:00:17
Who else should we interview? What do you like from this
1:00:20
podcast? What do you not like?
1:00:22
I really value your feedback. You can do that by emailing me,
1:00:26
Lila, at gtbmedia.com. That's GTB media.com.
1:00:32
And please, please, please leave a review or give us five stars.
1:00:36
Your review helps the podcast reach more people.
1:00:39
And don't forget to subscribe to the new YouTube channel.
1:00:42
And if you're watching this on YouTube, don't forget to leave a
1:00:44
comment because your engagement on our YouTube channel will help
1:00:47
YouTube actually suggest the videos to more people so we can
1:00:50
actually get more traction on YouTube.
1:00:52
Thank you all so much and we'll see you next week.