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Sanctuary State CDL Sparks Tragedy plus Police Union Blows Whistle on DC Crime Data Cover-Up · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: An illegal truck driver behind a fatal U turn failed
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  Speaker 1: the English language tests. We're now finding out at mile
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  Speaker 1: marker one seventy on the Florida Turnpike, a semi truck
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  Speaker 1: driver executed an illegal U turn in an area designated
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  Speaker 1: quote official use only. It has caused a fatal collision
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  Speaker 1: and three fatalities in a Chrysler Town and Country minivan
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  Speaker 1: were killed a thirty seven year old woman, a thirty
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  Speaker 1: year old man, and a fifty four year old man
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  Speaker 1: from Miami. The truck driver is, unfortunately where the tragic
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: story begins, identified as a twenty eight year old Indian
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  Speaker 1: national living illegally in the United States of America. He
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  Speaker 1: entered the country in twenty eighteen, reportedly via Mexico, and
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  Speaker 1: was actually granted a work permit in June of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one after an earlier denial under the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 1: meaning Joe Biden allowed this to happen. We also are
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  Speaker 1: finding out more about the licensing details of the illegal immigrant.
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  Speaker 1: The man literally held a CDL, a commercial driver's license,
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  Speaker 1: something that is supposed to be hard to get, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't for this illegal immigrant because he went to
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  Speaker 1: a sanctuary state. And it was issued by California, one
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen states plus DC that will actually grant CDLs
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  Speaker 1: regardless of immigration status. That is why we would refer
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  Speaker 1: to them as a sanctuary state. Federal testing after the
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  Speaker 1: crash revealed that the man failed to properly interpret basic
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  Speaker 1: English instructions and road signs. He answered only two of
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  Speaker 1: twelve English questions correctly, and it didni fied just one
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  Speaker 1: of ford traffic signs correctly. Legal charges are also going
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  Speaker 1: to take place, but the damage has already been done.
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  Speaker 1: The driver now faces three counts of vhicular homicide and
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  Speaker 1: immigration violations. An ice detainer has been issued and federal
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  Speaker 1: authorities are requesting as transfer once state proceedings conclude. We
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  Speaker 1: also had these shocking video evidence that went viral. The
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  Speaker 1: dashcam footage from inside the truck capturing the illegal maneuver
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  Speaker 1: and ensuing crash at surfaced and circulated widely, also showing
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  Speaker 1: a man that really didn't seem to care much that
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  Speaker 1: he had just taken the lives of three individuals. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the legal and political fallout is even bigger. In Florida,
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  Speaker 1: each count of hicular homicide can carry up to fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: meaning the maximum of forty five years in prison if
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  Speaker 1: he is convicted on all three. Prosecutors also must prove
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: recklessness and not just negligence to receive that sentence. Federal
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  Speaker 1: state crash is also another part of the problem here,
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  Speaker 1: also the question of federal and state and what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen there. The Department of Homeland Security criticized California's
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  Speaker 1: licensing policies, calling it asinine, while California officials and legal
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  Speaker 1: experts counter that the man had quote a valid visa
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  Speaker 1: and work permit when he received his license, validating compliance
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  Speaker 1: with legal requirements, even though apparently couldn't even read the
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  Speaker 1: basic road signs. And then there's the bigger question, how
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  Speaker 1: many more are out there on the roadways who have
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  Speaker 1: been given CDLs who can't speak English and don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the signs say on the roads they're driving with
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  Speaker 1: an eighteen wheeler. Public reaction is going to play a
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  Speaker 1: large part in this. The incident has sparked intense backlash,
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  Speaker 1: fueling political debate over sanctuary state policies and also these
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  Speaker 1: states that are permitting undocumented illegal immigrants to obtain CDLs.
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  Speaker 1: California Governor Gavin Newsom is also facing particularly sharp criticism
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  Speaker 1: over the entire episode. So if you look at it
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  Speaker 1: and step back, here's the takeaway. You have a semi
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  Speaker 1: truck driver who killed three Americans while making an illegal
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  Speaker 1: U turn in Florida, failed an English language proficiency test
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  Speaker 1: and also failed to accurately identify highway traffic signs. In
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  Speaker 1: the press release from the Department of Transportation, it was
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  Speaker 1: revealed that officials of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
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  Speaker 1: had launched an investigation into the deadly.
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  Speaker 2: Crash in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: During the interview with the driver they are now saying
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  Speaker 1: publicly who has been identified, investigators administered a Engli nguage
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  Speaker 1: proficiency assessment. He failed the assessment and only provided quote
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  Speaker 1: correct answers to just two of twelve verbal questions. And again,
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  Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, the report now states he only
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  Speaker 1: accurately identified one of four highway traffic signs. It states
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  Speaker 1: that he had he followed the rules, this driver would
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  Speaker 1: have never been behind the wheel and the three precious
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  Speaker 1: lives would still be with us. The Transportation Secretary Sean
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  Speaker 1: Duffy saying in a statement, quote this crash was a
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  Speaker 1: preventable tragedy, directly caused by reckless decisions and compounded by
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  Speaker 1: despicable failures, non enforcement and radical immigration policies have turned
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  Speaker 1: the trucking industry into a lawless frontier, resulting, he says,
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  Speaker 1: in unqualified foreign drivers improperly acquiring licenses to operate forty
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  Speaker 1: ton vehicles. The press release from Sean Duffy Transportation secont
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  Speaker 1: Terry also revealed that on July the fifteenth of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, Washington State, we are now being told, issued
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  Speaker 1: the man a quote regular, full term commercial driver's license,
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  Speaker 1: and then on July twenty third of twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: the driver was issued a limited term slash CDL in
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  Speaker 1: California as well. So the federal investigators administering all of this,
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  Speaker 1: and they know that this guy can't speak English, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know the signs, and then killed three people, and yet
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  Speaker 1: Democrats are still defending the practice of giving illegal immigrants
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  Speaker 1: CDL licenses to drive eighteen millers in America. There's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt that Sean Duffy and the Trump administration are gonna
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  Speaker 1: do everything they can to make sure this stops happening,
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  Speaker 1: back to oh what a week and a half ago
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  Speaker 1: when the President of United States of America announced he
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  Speaker 1: was going to federalize law enforcement in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 2: Take charge and fight crime.
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  Speaker 1: What did the left in the media say, Well, I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you because I was on TV that night
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  Speaker 1: on CNN, and they said the president all this was
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  Speaker 1: was him being a narcissist, a dictator, and this is
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  Speaker 1: all about Donald Trump wanting to be in charge. And
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  Speaker 1: I asked the question, why is it you guys hate
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump so much to the point where you won't
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  Speaker 1: even advocate from fighting crime when people are dying in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. They then said Donald Trump doesn't know how
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  Speaker 1: to fight crime, and that this is all for the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: It's all theatrics, that he wasn't actually going to fight
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  Speaker 1: crime in high crime areas in Washington, d C. He
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  Speaker 1: was just going to put him around the National Mall.
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  Speaker 1: Well guess what that was also a line, how do
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  Speaker 1: we know it? Take a list in the White House
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  Speaker 1: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt is she explains exactly what's happened
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  Speaker 1: in just over a week of data they've now received.
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  Speaker 3: President Trump's efforts to make DC safe again are working.
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  Speaker 3: There have been a total of four hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 3: five arrests since the start of this operation on Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: August seventh. Last night, there were a total of fifty
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  Speaker 3: two arrests, including the arrest of an illegal alien MS
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  Speaker 3: thirteen gang member with convictions for DWI and drug possession.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to President Trump's leadership in the outstanding work of
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  Speaker 3: both federal and local law enforcement, dangerous gang members like
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  Speaker 3: the one picked up last night will not be allowed
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  Speaker 3: on the streets of our nation's capital. Other arrests last
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  Speaker 3: night included assault with a deadly weapon for stabbing, parole
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: violation for robbery murder, outstanding warrant for attempted murder, assault
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  Speaker 3: on federal law enforcement officer, and felony assault. Four more
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  Speaker 3: homeless in casements were also removed during yesterday's reporting period.
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  Speaker 3: To date, a total of forty eight homeless encampments have
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  Speaker 3: been cleared in Washington, d C. By multi agency teams.
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  Speaker 3: MPD patrol units are actively working with city officials to
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  Speaker 3: locate in clear additional encampments and remove homeless residents off
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  Speaker 3: of Washington streets. And despite fake narratives from the media, again,
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  Speaker 3: a significant number of the arrests have been in high
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  Speaker 3: crime areas of DC. In fact, nearly half of all
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  Speaker 3: of the non illegal alien related arrests have occurred in
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  Speaker 3: Wards seven and eight, the two wards that have the
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  Speaker 3: highest number of violent crime, as well as homicides and
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  Speaker 3: assaults with dangerous weapons last year. So while Democrats continue
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  Speaker 3: to caudle violent criminals, President Trump and this administration are
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  Speaker 3: focused on putting them behind bars and unapologetically standing up
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: for the safety of law abiding American citizens. And the
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  Speaker 3: White House will continue to provide all of you with
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  Speaker 3: the results of this operation in the days ahead.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to what she said, they went into the
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  Speaker 1: most violent neighborhoods to protect the least among us. You also,
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: and if you listen to Democratic Party, they're obsessed with
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  Speaker 1: black lives matter. If I remember correctly, they even painted
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  Speaker 1: a street with Black Lives Matter on it, the mayor
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  Speaker 1: of DC making sure it was headed straight to the
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  Speaker 1: White House. And so why wouldn't you advocate for more
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement? Now the liberal media narrative has been well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: things are incredibly safe in DC.
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  Speaker 2: They're so much better than.
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  Speaker 1: They were when they had a quote bad year in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, when we now know that there may
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  Speaker 1: be massive lives have been told to us in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four and twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: What am I talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Insert the DC police union chairman who's now exposing saying
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  Speaker 1: there's a very good chance, based on what they've seen
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  Speaker 1: that the number who were deliberately manipulated to make crime
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  Speaker 1: look like it was lower than it actually was in DC.
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  Speaker 1: Another Democrat cover up, caring more about faking the numbers
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  Speaker 1: than fighting crime. Listen to what the DC union police
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  Speaker 1: chairman had to say on Fox News Channel.
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  Speaker 4: Can you confirm for us that there have been police
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  Speaker 4: officers and detectives and members of law enforcement in DC
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  Speaker 4: who on the scene of crimes have been told don't
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  Speaker 4: write that one down, or don't add that to the list,
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  Speaker 4: or put that down as a more minor offense.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: That's one of the chief complaints of our members when
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  Speaker 6: we go around and talk to them, is that they
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  Speaker 6: respond to the scenes of these violent crimes, and inevitably
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  Speaker 6: you'll have a captain or a commander or sometimes a
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  Speaker 6: lieutenant show up on the scene and advise them to
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  Speaker 6: take a report for a lesser offense. One of the
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  Speaker 6: things that we see them do often is sometimes they'll
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  Speaker 6: be shooting or a stabbing, and if the victim is
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  Speaker 6: uncooperative with the police, which is not uncommon in some
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  Speaker 6: areas of the city. They'll be directed to take an
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  Speaker 6: injured person to the hospital report, which is not even
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  Speaker 6: a crime at all.
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  Speaker 5: It's an incident report.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes you'll have a robbery, it'll be reported as a theft.
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  Speaker 6: Other times you'll have burglaries that are reported as unlawful
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  Speaker 6: entry or thefts. This is something that's been unfortunately part
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  Speaker 6: and parcel of the police department for some time, and
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  Speaker 6: we're very skeptical that these crime stats are accurate.
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  Speaker 4: That's extraordinary. What is the motivation? Why are these commanders
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  Speaker 4: or higher ups arriving on the scene during apprehensions and
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  Speaker 4: telling police officers to indicate something other than what actually
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  Speaker 4: happened at the scene.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the only explanation you give me to keep the
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  Speaker 6: crime stats down because politically that's expedient for the police
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  Speaker 6: department and elected officials in the district.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, let's go back to how we got here, which.
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  Speaker 6: Is that in twenty twenty, the Dccity Council passed the
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  Speaker 6: Comprehensive Policing and Justice Reform Act, which was a sweeping
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  Speaker 6: piece of legiac designed to hamstring police officers to reduce
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  Speaker 6: the size scope and responsibilities of police officers. In addition,
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  Speaker 6: it also prevented us from holding criminals accountable even when
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  Speaker 6: they're convicted of crimes. And so now here we are
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  Speaker 6: five years later, the police department, with an authorized strength
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  Speaker 6: of four thousand sworn members, we only have three and eighty,
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  Speaker 6: leaving us with over eight hundred vacancies for the position
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  Speaker 6: a police officer. And in order to make up for
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  Speaker 6: that gap, the police department uses two million hours of
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  Speaker 6: mandatory overtime to cover the demand for police officers. And
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  Speaker 6: so because of that, crime has skyrocketed in the district.
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  Speaker 6: And one of the things that we think is going
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  Speaker 6: on in the police department, which who knows how high
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  Speaker 6: up that those directors are coming from, is to make
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  Speaker 6: sure that these crime stats are reported in the most
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  Speaker 6: favorable way possible.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what you're saying obviously substantiates what we heard
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  Speaker 4: from President Trump. He said they were opening an investigation
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  Speaker 4: and that he didn't believe because what happened. I don't
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  Speaker 4: have to tell you. I'm speaking to the audience at large,
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  Speaker 4: but when present and Trump said he wanted to bring
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  Speaker 4: a national guard. All we heard from many quarters in
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  Speaker 4: the media and in leadership in Washington was this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Our numbers are lower than they've been in a long
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  Speaker 4: time in Washington, DC. We don't need National Guard presence
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  Speaker 4: on our streets. I mean, this sounds very, very egregious.
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  Speaker 4: This is lying to the people at the constituents of Washington,
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  Speaker 4: d C. And lying to the federal government about what
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  Speaker 4: your numbers really are.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're right, Martha, it is a crime under DC Code.
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  Speaker 6: It would be false swearing and it would be false reporting,
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  Speaker 6: and those are statutes in the DC Code that make
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  Speaker 6: it illegal to do that, to false by police reports
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  Speaker 6: or to change the data. So if the DOJ is
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  Speaker 6: in fact investigating, I hope they do, and if they
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  Speaker 6: find that somebody was intentionally manipulating the data, they should
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  Speaker 6: be held accountable. It's a crime in the District of Columbia,
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  Speaker 6: and frankly, it's a disservice to the police department, it's
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  Speaker 6: a disservice to the city, and most of all, it's
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  Speaker 6: a disservice to the victims whose police reports are not
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  Speaker 6: being properly handled and we're not dedicating the proper resources
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  Speaker 6: to the crimes that they've been victims of. So something
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  Speaker 6: needs to change here, and this is an important issue.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just go over the DC crime stats. Now,
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  Speaker 1: DC crime since the announcement of federal control versus the
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  Speaker 1: seven day prior numbers, forty six percent is how much
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  Speaker 1: they're down when it comes to robberies. Six percent down
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to carjacking, eighty three percent down for
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  Speaker 1: car theft, twenty one percent, violent crime, twenty two percent down,
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  Speaker 1: property crime, six percent of all crimes.
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  Speaker 2: This is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And now the Justice Department is investigating whether the DC
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  Speaker 1: police deliberately manipulated crime data. The police chief also saying
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  Speaker 1: this about DC crime under the Democrats to the Republicans.
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  Speaker 6: The criminal justice system here in the District of Columbia
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  Speaker 6: is broken. Every aspect of it is broken, whether that's policing, prosecution,
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  Speaker 6: judges and trials, sentencing and supervision, all of it is broken.
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  Speaker 6: And you can trace every aspect of it back to
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  Speaker 6: a piece of legislation that was passed by the council.
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  Speaker 6: They have destroyed policing, they have destroyed prosecutions, they have
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  Speaker 6: destroyed the way that the courts are allowed to operate,
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  Speaker 6: and they've destroyed our ability to sentence criminals to sentences
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  Speaker 6: that are commensurate with the crimes they've committed. And so
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  Speaker 6: the only way to fix this holistically is to go
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  Speaker 6: back and look at all of this legislation that the
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  Speaker 6: Council passed it back in twenty twenty when there was
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  Speaker 6: all of this anti police rhetoric and work to undo that.
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  Speaker 6: I know from my experiences the DC Council will never
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  Speaker 6: do that on their own.
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  Speaker 5: And so what we're hoping over.
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  Speaker 6: The course of the next thirty days is that whether
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  Speaker 6: that's the White House, whether that's these federal law enforcement agencies,
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  Speaker 6: whether that's Congress, that people get an insight into exactly
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  Speaker 6: how the system got so broken, because the only way
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  Speaker 6: to fix it is if we can get rid of
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  Speaker 6: that legislation. And my main concern is that thirty days
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  Speaker 6: are going to go by, all of these folks are
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  Speaker 6: going to go up about their merry way, and we're
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  Speaker 6: still going to be stuck with all this bad law.
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  Speaker 1: We're only going to be stuck with bad laws. Remember this,
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  Speaker 1: Remember what the Democratic Party is doing. They're not actually
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  Speaker 1: trying to fight crime. They just want Donald Trump to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be a failure, even if it means Americans dying. You
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: may remember during the campaign, Donald Trump said that if
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you elected him, he was going to look into voter
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: election integrity, and he was wanting to get rid of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: mail in ballots. Now that has made the left lose
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: their minds. Why because we have now witnessed even recently
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: local elected officials stuffing the ballot box. It happened to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: be the mailbox with mail in ballots that obviously were
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not from the people that they were setting them in
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  Speaker 1: on their behalf. Well, now Donald Trump has pledged to
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  Speaker 1: end mail in ballots and voting machines ahead of the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six midterms. Making big news with the announcement,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump announcing he intends to sign an executive order
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  Speaker 1: banning the use of mail in ballots and electronic voting
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  Speaker 1: machines in federaltions sat in the stage for a fierce
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  Speaker 1: political and legal battle ahead of the twenty twenty six midterms. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this move, Trump argued, is quote necessary to restore public
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  Speaker 1: confidence in American elections, which he says have been plagued
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  Speaker 1: by fraud, mismanagement, and manipulation since the rapid expansion of
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  Speaker 1: vote by mail and the widespread adoption of computerized voting systems.
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  Speaker 1: Quote I am going to lead a movement to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of mail in ballots. And also, while we're at it,
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  Speaker 1: highly inaccurate, very expensive, and seriously controversial voting machines, Trump
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  Speaker 1: wrote in a true social post elections. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: the United States are primarily run by state governments, not Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Legal experts are noting that there could be a real
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  Speaker 1: problem and a fight, obviously, a fight that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: has no problem having, and that fight would be over
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  Speaker 1: constitution and who actually has the authority. Yes, the Constitution
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  Speaker 1: gives states the authority to administer elections, with Congress, not
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  Speaker 1: the President, holding limited power to quote regulate them. One
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  Speaker 1: liberal law professor at New York University put it this way, quote,
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  Speaker 1: the president has no power constitutionally to dictate two states
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  Speaker 1: the manner in which they conduct national elections. Still Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump and says the states act as agents of the
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  Speaker 1: federal government when conducting elections and therefore must follow the
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  Speaker 1: presidential direction. That claim is clearly a test that the
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  Speaker 1: president's more than happy to happen, and that's exactly why
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  Speaker 1: he's wanting to do the executive order. He obviously is
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  Speaker 1: planning on it going to court now. Conservative liberals have
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  Speaker 1: long raised alarms about electronic voting machines.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say that again.
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  Speaker 1: Conservatives and liberals have been raising alarms about the electronic
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  Speaker 1: voting machines, which rely on proprietary software and digital tabulation
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  Speaker 1: of the votes. In fact, critics on both sides of
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  Speaker 1: the aisle have actually argued the same thing, that these machines,
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  Speaker 1: produced by a handful of private companies, are vulnerable to hacking,
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  Speaker 1: miss programming, or even deliberate tampering. Now, while election officials
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  Speaker 1: insist that voting machines are more accurate than handcounts, skeptics
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  Speaker 1: point to high profile eras in passed elections, such as
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  Speaker 1: miss reported totals and technical breakdowns that left voters frustrated
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  Speaker 1: wondering if their votes were even counted. In fact, Democrats
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  Speaker 1: have been critical of electronic voting machines and have at
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  Speaker 1: times raised significant concerns about their reliability and also security.
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  Speaker 1: A great example of this is in Georgia, leading Democrats
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  Speaker 1: criticize the state's decision to use dominion ballot marking devices,
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  Speaker 1: arguing they were vulnerable to tampering and lack the transparency
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  Speaker 1: of hand marked paper ballots. Lawsuits were filed seeking to
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  Speaker 1: block their use with election security advocates pointing to risks
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  Speaker 1: of hacking and also just basic software flaws. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty HBO documentary Killed Chain, the Cyber War
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  Speaker 1: and America's Elections highlighted potential vulnerabilities and computerized voting, featuring
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  Speaker 1: interviews with security experts who warned the machines could be
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  Speaker 1: manipulated and most shockingly, leave elections open to interference. Together,
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  Speaker 1: democratic lawmakers, advocacy groups, and investigative media have question whether
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  Speaker 1: technology base voting undermines public trust. Let me say that again,
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  Speaker 1: this is democratic lawmakers that have been doing this. They
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  Speaker 1: were also pressing for greater reliance on paper ballots and
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  Speaker 1: robust auditing. So why now would Democrats be against what
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  Speaker 1: they've been advocating for. It actually comes down to one
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  Speaker 1: simple issue. They hate Donald Trump, and they also don't
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  Speaker 1: want admit that maybe Donald Trump is right about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this issue when it comes to election integrity.
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  Speaker 1: As for the President, he says he wants transparency. He
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  Speaker 1: wants hand counted paper ballots, even if it's slower, to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that our elections are meaningful, that people feel
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  Speaker 1: like their ballots are being casted and not canceled out
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  Speaker 1: by a hacker or a computer. Yes, it may even
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  Speaker 1: cost a little bit more money, but is it worth
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  Speaker 1: it to know that your vote counts. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: the President's saying, and the legal fight he's wanting to
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