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Eric Trump-Exclusive Interview on his new book Under Siege · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is Verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, and it's Ben
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Speaker 2: Ferguson with you. It's so nice to have you with us,
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Speaker 2: and certainly if you're listening on radio right now as well,
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Speaker 2: we love having you with us as well. And this
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Speaker 2: is going to be a really fun show tonight Center,
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Speaker 2: because we're gonna get to have a good friend of
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Speaker 2: ours on take a pause sort of from politics for
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Speaker 2: a moment, talk about a cool new book that is
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Speaker 2: out and what was behind writing this book, and I'll
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Speaker 2: let you take it from there.
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Speaker 3: You know, Ben, I got to say, we try to
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Speaker 3: count on being honest and candid with our viewers and listeners,
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Speaker 3: and yet you just claim that we're going to take
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Speaker 3: a break from politics, and this is about as far
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Speaker 3: away from taking a break from politics as I can
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Speaker 3: possibly imagine.
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Speaker 4: Today.
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Speaker 3: We are very pleased to welcome our friend Eric Trump,
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Speaker 3: President Donald Trump's son, who has a brand new book.
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Speaker 3: A brand new book came out this week. The book
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Speaker 3: is entitled Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation.
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Speaker 3: He is in the midst of his nationwide book tour
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Speaker 3: right now, and in classic Trump fashion, he's on the list.
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Speaker 3: And there's only one place to be on the list,
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Speaker 3: and that is at number one. It's the number one
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Speaker 3: best selling book in America right now. And Eric, this
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Speaker 3: is your first book. It ain't bad debuting at number one.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations and welcome.
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Speaker 5: Mister senator.
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Speaker 6: Now it will probably be my last book as well,
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Speaker 6: because we're not I'm not doing this again. You know,
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Speaker 6: the return, the return on time of books is especially
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Speaker 6: when you put your heart and soul into it. But yeah,
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Speaker 6: we're number one on Amazon, We're number one on all
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Speaker 6: the lists, and it's I mean, it just went viral.
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Speaker 5: I think. You know, people in this country are pissed off.
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Speaker 6: And mister Centater, you you've done a better job fighting
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Speaker 6: against a weaponization of government than I would say just
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Speaker 6: about anybody other than maybe Donald Trump, right, who's had
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Speaker 6: to face all of this. And you know, I became
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Speaker 6: the pinata in this whole fight because I was the
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Speaker 6: one guy who didn't have constitutional protections. I was a civilian,
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Speaker 6: you know, I was a guy that was running the
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Speaker 6: Trump organization. I was the guy that ran everything that
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Speaker 6: was outside of Washington, DC for my father when he
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Speaker 6: went into the White House. And what they tried to
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Speaker 6: do to us, what they tried to do to our family,
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Speaker 6: what they tried to do to this nation, what they
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Speaker 6: tried to do to you and and all your viewers
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Speaker 6: on this show is unthinkable, and somebody had to materialize
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Speaker 6: it because there's the greatest governmental corruption this nation has
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Speaker 6: ever seen.
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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, and they launched everything they had at
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Speaker 3: your father, at your family, four separate indictments. On top
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Speaker 3: of that, the asinine case from the New York Attorney
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Speaker 3: General trying to argue that somehow global international banks are
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Speaker 3: innocent wifes who are deceived and are apparently are unable
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Speaker 3: to value real estate because you know, giant banks have
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Speaker 3: never had to value real estate in the past. I
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Speaker 3: will confess, for me, maybe the most absurd moment of
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Speaker 3: all of it was when the idiot judge in New
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Speaker 3: York valued bar a Lago at eighteen million dollars, which
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Speaker 3: I'll confess I saw it.
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Speaker 1: I would have bought it for that.
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Speaker 3: I saw your dad not shortly after that, and I
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Speaker 3: offered it on the spot. I said, miss President, I'll
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Speaker 3: give you twenty million right now. Well they too, I mean,
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Speaker 3: as you as you know, you can't buy a hot
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Speaker 3: dog stand in Palm Beach for eighteen million dollars, and
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Speaker 3: that notion that to me, it was the most ludicrous.
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Speaker 3: It was a relatively small detail of what was a
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Speaker 3: pile of idiocy upon idiocy. But you guys were the
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Speaker 3: targets of it, and and it it cannot have been fun.
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Speaker 5: Mister Center.
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Speaker 6: I became the most openied man in American history for
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Speaker 6: doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not Hunter Biden. I never
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Speaker 6: had a speeding ticket in my life. I've lived a
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Speaker 6: very straight, very good life, hard working guy, no games,
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Speaker 6: never even approached the line, you know, raised right, you know,
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Speaker 6: and and they tried to destroy us. I was the
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Speaker 6: one those gang calls from the FBI. You remember the
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Speaker 6: Russia hoos very well because you were probably the best
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Speaker 6: person in fighting against it. Eric, I hear you have
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Speaker 6: secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly
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Speaker 6: with the Kremlin. I go, excuse me, I literally started,
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Speaker 6: mister Center. I started laughing. I started laughing. I go,
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Speaker 6: First of all, you don't keep servers in basements because
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Speaker 6: basements flood. Second of all, were like largely cloud based.
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Speaker 6: And they did it so a greedy woman could get
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Speaker 6: about three extra votes, right, And they used that as
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Speaker 6: their explanation as to why she lost. And then it
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Speaker 6: was at peachment number one, and then it was a
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Speaker 6: peachment number two, and then it was them attacking Cavanaugh,
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Speaker 6: and then it was one hundred and twelve subpoenas that
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Speaker 6: I received for again doing nothing wrong. And then it
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Speaker 6: was a weaponization of every attorney general and district attorney
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Speaker 6: in this country, whether it be Latitia James or Alvin
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Speaker 6: Bragg or Cy Vance or Fanny Willis and her boyfriend
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Speaker 6: in Fulton, Georgia, you know, or Jack Smith or Comy
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Speaker 6: and everything that they did. Then they spied on her campaign.
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Speaker 6: Then they did the weaponization of Faiza. Then they took
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Speaker 6: my father off the ballot in Colorado, and then they
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Speaker 6: took him off the ballot in Maine. And when that
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Speaker 6: didn't work, they tried to silence his voice and get
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Speaker 6: rid of his First Amendment right.
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Speaker 5: So what did they do?
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Speaker 6: Took him off of YouTube, took him off of Twitter,
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Speaker 6: took him off of Facebook, took him off of Instagram.
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Speaker 6: And when that didn't work, when we popped up true social,
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Speaker 6: what did they do? They had every judge imposed gag
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Speaker 6: orders on him and.
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Speaker 5: Then they rated mar Lago.
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Speaker 6: I was the guy that got the call when third
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Speaker 6: FBI agents were outside screaming in a phone to me
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Speaker 6: turn off the security cameras at m R A Lago.
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Speaker 6: They did everything they could, and then they de banked us,
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Speaker 6: and then they deplatformed us. They tried to bankrupt us,
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Speaker 6: they tried to imprison us. And I'll never forget walking
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Speaker 6: out of that jail cell with my father in New
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Speaker 6: York after the thirty four felony accounts right which have
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Speaker 6: all been overturned, and I said, Dad, we either win
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Speaker 6: the White House or you and I are in jail
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Speaker 6: for doing absolutely nothing wrong. That's how diabolical the pendulum was.
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Speaker 6: And they were doing it to the people in this
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Speaker 6: country as well. They were debanking them. They were going
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Speaker 6: after their pastors, they were going after their churches. They
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Speaker 6: were weaponizing the irs.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: They were skipping great people who had worked their butts
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Speaker 6: off their entire year because of DEI hires and literally
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Speaker 6: ruining upward mobility of people across the country. They were
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Speaker 6: corrupting their children. They were teaching them revisionist history. This
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Speaker 6: siege wasn't just against the Trump family, it was against
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Speaker 6: all of us.
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Speaker 5: It was against both of you, it was against.
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Speaker 6: Every person watching us right now, and people are pissed
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Speaker 6: off in this country, and that's why this book went
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Speaker 6: to number one.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned mar Lago a second ago and getting that
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Speaker 2: phone call. Can you just explain how insane that day
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Speaker 2: must have been, because I know people we saw it
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Speaker 2: on TV, but you were on the inside. And when
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Speaker 2: you're getting a phone called, they're telling you to turn
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Speaker 2: your cameras off.
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Speaker 4: So like, what time of day is it, what are
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Speaker 4: you doing?
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Speaker 6: It was about seven fifty eight o'clock in the morning
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Speaker 6: when I got a call from my team. They say,
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Speaker 6: the thirty FBI agents and they have a search warrant.
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Speaker 6: I go, what are they searching? I'm not sure if
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Speaker 6: I understand, Like we have like such a great relationship
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Speaker 6: with law enforcement. It was bizarre at the time. I go,
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Speaker 6: how would I not know about this? From Secret Service?
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Speaker 6: How would I not know? I mean, they didn't give
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Speaker 6: anybody warning. And I'll never forget, I said. I finally
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Speaker 6: figured out what they were doing, and I said, did
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Speaker 6: anybody let my father know? And it was my team,
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Speaker 6: really and they said no, And I go, we'll call
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Speaker 6: him right now, and we met in his office and
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Speaker 6: that's when he wrote up that beautiful tweet, as you remember,
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Speaker 6: And the FBI was so damn pissed that we sent
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Speaker 6: out that tweet. They wanted to have the narrative, they
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Speaker 6: wanted to be able to release a story, and instead
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Speaker 6: my father writes that beautiful tweet. You know, right now,
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Speaker 6: the FBI is raiding the famous Mara A Lago, my home,
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Speaker 6: you know, And the world went crazy. The world couldn't
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Speaker 6: stand it. It was the worst decision that they ever made.
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Speaker 6: And remember, Senator, they said it was on behalf of
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Speaker 6: Nara right National Archives. Does anybody I went on Hannity
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Speaker 6: that night, I go, does anybody actually believe with glorified
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Speaker 6: library send thirty FBI agents to invade Mara A Lago
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Speaker 6: with firearms?
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Speaker 5: Give me a break, right?
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Speaker 6: And then sure enough it comes out there was Joe Biden,
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Speaker 6: and it was Merrick Garland, and it was the whole
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Speaker 6: host of criminals that weaponized the entire system. But I'll
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Speaker 6: never forget that call. Thirty FBI agents outside of mar
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Speaker 6: A Lago. They searched Milania's room, they search Baron's room.
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Speaker 6: They took attorney client privileged documents, they took hippa documents.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
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Speaker 2: I know you're going to try to terrorize in New
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Speaker 2: York Times a little bit. That's the hardest thing is
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Speaker 2: just to screw with them and be at the top
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Speaker 2: of their list. So everyone listening, I hope you'll buy
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Speaker 2: the book just so we can screw with them a
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Speaker 2: it's hard to get there.
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Speaker 3: Well, I will say, Eric, you should brace yourself. It
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter how many copies of the book you sell.
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Speaker 3: The New York Times is going to insist that like
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Speaker 3: left Handed Transgender Witches, is the number one book in America,
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Speaker 3: and to be fair, in the New York Times newsroom,
10:02
Speaker 3: it probably is the number one book in America. But
10:04
Speaker 3: but if you get outside the New York Times and
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Speaker 3: to the rest of America, there are a lot of
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Speaker 3: people right now that are going to Amazon. Go to
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Speaker 3: Amazon right now by Eric truck Trump's book Keep It
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Speaker 3: at number one, Annoy a Liberal by two, buy one
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Speaker 3: for yourself, and buy one to give a liberal just
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Speaker 3: to drive them crazy. And and and to say, explain
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Speaker 3: to me again how you think weaponization is a bad thing.
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Speaker 3: Because because your you're liberal friends, to the extent you
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Speaker 3: have any that they haven't defriended you, They're not going
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Speaker 3: to have an answer to that. Eric, tell me what
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Speaker 3: was your dad's reaction when you went in and and
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Speaker 3: told them, okay, the FBI agents are here. I assume
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Speaker 3: he was pissed, But like, what was his immediate reaction
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Speaker 3: when you tell him that It.
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Speaker 5: Was actually remarkably calm.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's it's you know, I've seen my father
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Speaker 6: pissed many times, but he doesn't get pissed off and
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Speaker 6: in situations of kind of like great anguish and stress. Right,
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Speaker 6: it's no different than Butler. But you know, almost foreshadow
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Speaker 6: Butler is the same thing. It's it's I probably would
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Speaker 6: have been pissed in Butler and I think he was
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Speaker 6: actually remarkably calm, especially in the aftermath of what happened.
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Speaker 6: And you know he was always his commist in the
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Speaker 6: worst moments, always, I mean and center. You saw many
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Speaker 6: of them. I mean you were there for many of them,
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Speaker 6: in so many different ways. You know, he never let
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Speaker 6: emotion fly. It was it was a very he goes,
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Speaker 6: you gotta be kidding me, all right, honey, meet me
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Speaker 6: in my office. You know, we're going to write up
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Speaker 6: a statement. And that's when he let that truth fly,
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Speaker 6: and you know, the rest is history. I mean, for
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Speaker 6: the next month, they had helicopters buzzing over mar a
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Speaker 6: Lago and you know the scenes of that front gate.
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Speaker 6: You remember this, the cop car from the front gate
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Speaker 6: of mar Lago. I mean, mar Lago became, not that
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Speaker 6: it wasn't probably already, but he became the most famous
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Speaker 6: property in the world. Based on on that raid and
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Speaker 6: what they did, and then the aftermath of all of it,
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Speaker 6: we find out Jack Smith was bringing in classified folders
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Speaker 6: and effectively staging photo shoots on the.
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Speaker 5: Office floor of my father's office.
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Speaker 6: But you know, as I said before, guys, I mean
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Speaker 6: they were going through Malania's closet they were going through
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Speaker 6: Baron's room. They literally they took his medical records, right
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Speaker 6: like hipA related records. That pissed off the judge. I
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Speaker 6: can only tell you they took attorney client documents right.
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Speaker 6: That also really pissed off Eileen Cannon, the judge on
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Speaker 6: the case. You just you couldn't believe it. And then
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Speaker 6: you know, again, all of this was stage. You think
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Speaker 6: Donald Trump just leaves classified folders fanned out perfectly on
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Speaker 6: the floor. I mean, it was all staged. It was
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Speaker 6: all set up. They wanted to imprison him. They wanted
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Speaker 6: to take his voice. They wanted to imprison him. They
12:22
Speaker 6: wanted him behind bars. They didn't want him to be
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Speaker 6: able to campaign. They wanted to weaponize a system in
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Speaker 6: any way, shape or form, and they weren't able to
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Speaker 6: do it.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people remember the deplatforming, and you mentioned
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Speaker 2: that earlier, and you go back to the end of
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Speaker 2: his first term in office. But one of the things
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Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier on was they tried to ruin your
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Speaker 2: businesses by d banking. You can you explain for people
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Speaker 2: that don't understand just how critical that was in a
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Speaker 2: time and the Trump organization you've been handled the family
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Speaker 2: business to run it. And now you're finding out you
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Speaker 2: can't even have banking the way that you need to
12:56
Speaker 2: have banking to literally run businesses, whether your big business
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Speaker 2: are small business. A lot of people listening right now.
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Speaker 2: If you don't have a bank, you don't have a business.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, it was that times one hundred.
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Speaker 6: I mean they they literally it was coordinated by the administration,
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Speaker 6: There's no question about it. And they called up and
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Speaker 6: they said, listen, congratulations, you cancel the account. I was
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Speaker 6: getting these letters. I got one from Capital One. They
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Speaker 6: had three hundred bank accounts. And these aren't like baby
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Speaker 6: bank accounts. These are massive commercial buildings that have hundreds
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Speaker 6: of tenants, you know, thousands of people working in these buildings,
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Speaker 6: hundreds if not thousands, of vendors, heavy real estate taxes.
13:29
Speaker 6: I mean people, hundreds and hundreds of people depend their
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Speaker 6: livelihoods depend on on these businesses. They've got complicated lock
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Speaker 6: box provisions and loan you know, loan documents, thousands of
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Speaker 6: inputs coming in like this, you know, and they just
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Speaker 6: called up. You know, your accounts are going to get closed.
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Speaker 6: You've got one or two days to move them, and congratulations,
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Speaker 6: you're done. All because we wore a hat that said
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Speaker 6: make America great again.
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Speaker 5: That was read.
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Speaker 6: These were commercial buildings, these were condominium associations, these were
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Speaker 6: small golf courses, these were you know, residential shops, were
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Speaker 6: scrow accounts, things that had nothing to do, nothing to
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Speaker 6: do with politics whatsoever. And they canceled us like we
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Speaker 6: were dogs. Capital One was the worst.
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Speaker 5: JP.
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Speaker 6: Morgan was horrible. Bank of America was horrible. First Republic
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Speaker 6: was terrible. But it wasn't just the banks. It was
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Speaker 6: platform Shopify. Shopify literally gave us a notice they do
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Speaker 6: all the e comm platforms in the middle of the night,
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Speaker 6: turned off our accounts like we were nothing right. We
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Speaker 6: were selling golf polos that we have, you know from
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Speaker 6: mar A Lago. And they did everything they could took
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Speaker 6: to hurt us, to turn off the rails right again.
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Speaker 6: They wanted our voice gone, They wanted us bankrupt, they
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Speaker 6: wanted the name off of every building. They wanted us
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Speaker 6: thrown out of New York. You had Letitia James, I
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Speaker 6: was trying to repossess our assets. I mean it was
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Speaker 6: almost like forfeiture. It was not constitutional. Hence the reason
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Speaker 6: the appellate courts throughout the case five zero and we
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Speaker 6: got a resounding victory two weeks ago or three weeks ago.
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Speaker 5: Guys, they tried everything they could.
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Speaker 6: And because I was the guy outside of Washington, DC,
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Speaker 6: because I ran the company, it all fell on me.
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Speaker 6: That's how I became the most opened person the history
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Speaker 6: of this country, having never done a damn thing wrong.
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Speaker 6: They wanted to get to my father coming through me.
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Speaker 3: That Now, were these business accounts personal accounts both? I mean,
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Speaker 3: how many accounts are we talking about?
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Speaker 4: Roughly like what.
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Speaker 6: Five five hundred? You know, lots of those being business accounts,
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Speaker 6: all of them being us. You know, my wife has
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Speaker 6: a like athletic clothing line. You know, JP Morgan Chase
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Speaker 6: wouldn't open up an account, so you know, for her,
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Speaker 6: she's not Donald Trump, She's not the Trump organization. They
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Speaker 6: did this to everyone in the family. If you even
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Speaker 6: came close. You know, if you even came close. I
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Speaker 6: have a little farm with a couple buddies. They canceled
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Speaker 6: that account. Doesn't wear a Trump name, it can't. They
15:42
Speaker 6: were indiscriminate. If it was six degrees of sep in
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Speaker 6: narration from Trump, they canceled us. And honestly, guys, you know,
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Speaker 6: I'm an outspoken you know, a big fan of you know, cryptocurrency.
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Speaker 6: That's how I found crypto because I realized how quickly
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Speaker 6: financial institutions can be weaponized against the American people and
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Speaker 6: realize that there's nothing that can be done on you know,
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Speaker 6: using traditional financial institutions that can't be done better, faster, cheaper, safer,
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Speaker 6: and more efficiently using cryptocurrency.
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Speaker 5: And I'm the biggest proponent of it.
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Speaker 3: Did did they even even purport to give you any
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Speaker 3: explanation or do they just say no, it's canceled like
16:17
Speaker 3: like that that they didn't was there any details or
16:21
Speaker 3: you just get phone calls or get an email and say, okay,
16:24
Speaker 3: this account's done.
16:25
Speaker 5: Yeah.
16:25
Speaker 6: Other other than a lot of those, you know a
16:27
Speaker 6: lot of the people that worked in the in the
16:28
Speaker 6: banks who otherwise said this is the most I can't
16:31
Speaker 6: believe it. I can't believe what my bank's doing. This
16:33
Speaker 6: is all political. That's what they're saying in the corridors
16:35
Speaker 6: every day. They canceled you for political reasons. There's no
16:38
Speaker 6: other explanation they're telling us, you know, they're telling us
16:41
Speaker 6: we can't talk to you ever again. I was unbelievable,
16:44
Speaker 6: and I would not wish that on my worst enemy,
16:46
Speaker 6: to take the rails of being able to pay employees.
16:50
Speaker 6: These are housekeepers, these are janitors, these are engineers, these
16:53
Speaker 6: are security officers, these are drivers, hospitality workers, to not
16:58
Speaker 6: be able to pay them a salary, all because somebody
17:01
Speaker 6: wanted to politicize a system against a candidate because they
17:05
Speaker 6: happened to be a conservative and they believed in making
17:07
Speaker 6: America great again.
17:10
Speaker 2: SATA, this is a story that we're hearing about the
17:14
Speaker 2: weaponization of the private sector, not the government, the private
17:18
Speaker 2: sector against the Trump organization. The moment that he just said,
17:23
Speaker 2: five hundred bank acounts just shut down, I'm shocked by that.
17:27
Speaker 2: I think you were as well.
17:28
Speaker 4: That number.
17:29
Speaker 3: I'd never heard anything remotely close to that. I mean,
17:32
Speaker 3: that really is stunning. So you're running your families outside businesses,
17:37
Speaker 3: you get these calls. What do you do when you're
17:40
Speaker 3: given what you said, twenty four hours forty eight hours notice, Like,
17:44
Speaker 3: were there banks that were willing to welcome your business
17:48
Speaker 3: or what did you do with with five hundred accounts
17:50
Speaker 3: being canceled.
17:51
Speaker 6: You're a lot of attorney generals, and you had a
17:53
Speaker 6: lot of government institutions that were going to these banks
17:55
Speaker 6: and don't even think about don't touch that account. You know,
17:58
Speaker 6: Letitia James was doing that to the bonding companies when
18:00
Speaker 6: we had to after the initial ruling, when we had
18:03
Speaker 6: to post a six hundred million dollar bond by the way,
18:06
Speaker 6: that that was like five times the size of the
18:09
Speaker 6: Boeing bond. That that made them, you know that literally
18:12
Speaker 6: it was it was it was the biggest bond ever
18:14
Speaker 6: seen in the country, you know. And she was going
18:17
Speaker 6: to the very same institution saying, don't even touch that bond.
18:20
Speaker 6: So we had to post the bond based on the
18:22
Speaker 6: court before we had everything overturned, and she was going
18:24
Speaker 6: to the biggest assurance company saying, you don't touch that bond.
18:27
Speaker 6: You know, you're you're registered in New York and if
18:29
Speaker 6: you touched that bond, I'm going to think less favorably
18:31
Speaker 6: on you. That's how badly they weaponize the system. What
18:35
Speaker 6: do you do when you get those letters? You want
18:37
Speaker 6: to crawl under your desk. And honestly, I had I
18:39
Speaker 6: had probably one hundred people in the company that didn't
18:42
Speaker 6: sleep for a six month period of time who were distraught,
18:45
Speaker 6: and thank god we had enough little local banks you
18:48
Speaker 6: know that that you move all the accounts unthinkable, right
18:50
Speaker 6: to these little local branches who want to take your money.
18:53
Speaker 6: But these weren't the JP Morrigans, these weren't the Bank
18:56
Speaker 6: of Americas. They were still a little They were a small,
18:59
Speaker 6: little mom and pop regional banks that did the right
19:01
Speaker 6: thing and honestly probably saved us based on the fact
19:03
Speaker 6: that they were willing to do the right thing. This
19:05
Speaker 6: didn't just happen to us. I was on the campaign trail,
19:08
Speaker 6: I'd hear from people every single day. You know, my
19:10
Speaker 6: bank canceled me. Why well, my company makes a spring
19:14
Speaker 6: and the spring goes in a fishing reel, and that
19:16
Speaker 6: fishing reel sold at bass pro shops, and bass pro
19:18
Speaker 6: shops sells twelve games duck hunting ammo, and they thought
19:22
Speaker 6: the affiliation. I heard this everywhere I went. I heard
19:25
Speaker 6: it from the crypto guys. I believed in bitcoin. I
19:27
Speaker 6: believed in stable coin. I believe in the future of
19:29
Speaker 6: kind of modern finance. And because I believed in crypto currency,
19:34
Speaker 6: my banks canceled me. Well, COVID canceled me, Bank of
19:36
Speaker 6: America canceled me.
19:38
Speaker 5: Guys.
19:38
Speaker 6: I heard this all over the place. You know, we
19:41
Speaker 6: need to make this illegal, and it is it's illegal
19:43
Speaker 6: in a lot of states and under a lot of
19:46
Speaker 6: banking clauses. But the fact that you can literally, I mean,
19:49
Speaker 6: could you imagine if if AIGHTE and t or of
19:51
Speaker 6: Rise and just decided to cancel all conservative cell phones.
19:55
Speaker 1: Yeah?
19:56
Speaker 5: Right.
19:56
Speaker 6: If you can't bank, you can't survive. If you can't bank,
20:00
Speaker 6: you can't eat. If you can't bank, you can't pay employees.
20:03
Speaker 6: And yet they turned us off like we were dogs.
20:06
Speaker 2: How much money do you think that trump when you
20:08
Speaker 2: guys were out during the four years and under siege
20:11
Speaker 2: like this, How many business deals got blown up because
20:14
Speaker 2: people were afraid even to just do business with you,
20:16
Speaker 2: because they're afraid their business will be affected negatively and
20:19
Speaker 2: they could be targeted. I'm assuming that was a reality
20:22
Speaker 2: for quite some time.
20:23
Speaker 6: Well, I talk a lot about it in the book.
20:24
Speaker 6: I mean the reporters that just made their whole livelihoods.
20:27
Speaker 6: David Farrenholdt from the Washington Post and and and others,
20:31
Speaker 6: you know, made their entire livelihoods calling up you know,
20:34
Speaker 6: vendors of ours, calling up our employees, calling up brides
20:37
Speaker 6: and grooms that were gonna get married.
20:38
Speaker 5: At one of the properties, one of the hotels.
20:41
Speaker 2: And they were harassing people that were getting married at
20:44
Speaker 2: Trump resorts.
20:45
Speaker 6: Oh I have I have more emails than you can
20:47
Speaker 6: possibly imagine. You know, I hear you're gonna go get
20:50
Speaker 6: married at at Mr Lago. Oh really, you know this
20:53
Speaker 6: might have to make the front cover of of our
20:55
Speaker 6: respective paper. You know, can you please get me comment?
20:58
Speaker 6: And these brides and grooms are saying, I just want
21:00
Speaker 6: to get married in peace, you know, I just you know,
21:02
Speaker 6: there's a beautiful property. I'm not a political person. I
21:05
Speaker 6: just you know it's it's it's a five star property.
21:07
Speaker 6: I love the place. It's convenient, my family lives nearby.
21:11
Speaker 6: Whatever the hell of the reason they were doing that.
21:13
Speaker 6: They were extorting employees, They were going up to employees.
21:16
Speaker 6: They frankly tried to do it to me. Hey, you
21:18
Speaker 6: tell us anything about Donald Trump, will let you go.
21:20
Speaker 6: You know all the problems.
21:22
Speaker 1: They tried to turn you against your own father.
21:25
Speaker 6: Alvin Bragg, Are you kidding me? Cyrus vance all of them.
21:31
Speaker 6: They they weaponized every da in and AG to try
21:34
Speaker 6: and flip every single person to say anything negative, to
21:37
Speaker 6: get any negative testimony against Donald Trump for their own
21:40
Speaker 6: political purposes. Absolutely, that was the whole game. They played,
21:44
Speaker 6: and no one in our company broke. Guys, this was
21:47
Speaker 6: the siege that I dealt with every single day, right,
21:49
Speaker 6: I mean it was it was all of these factors
21:51
Speaker 6: that came together, all at once, all the time, doing
21:55
Speaker 6: anything they could to to to just chop us off
21:58
Speaker 6: at every single I mean, when they made up the
22:01
Speaker 6: dirty dossier, when they made up right, I mean they
22:04
Speaker 6: have stories about prostitution in there, about golden you know,
22:07
Speaker 6: what's right? What do you think they were trying. They
22:09
Speaker 6: were trying to divorce my father. They were trying to
22:11
Speaker 6: destroy his marriage. They were trying to break up our family.
22:14
Speaker 6: That's what they were trying to do. Also, a greedy
22:17
Speaker 6: woman could get, you know again, two more votes. These
22:20
Speaker 6: people are sick, These people are deranged, and there's been
22:22
Speaker 6: zero accountability for any of it. And as a son
22:26
Speaker 6: who fought by my father's side every single day during
22:29
Speaker 6: this battle, somebody had to tell this story. Somebody had
22:32
Speaker 6: to tell the inside perspective of the lens that a
22:35
Speaker 6: corrupt government will go to besides just spying on campaigns
22:39
Speaker 6: and despite just you know, raiding homes, you know, all
22:43
Speaker 6: the things that they did to try and destroy us,
22:45
Speaker 6: to try and destroy make America great again and try
22:47
Speaker 6: and destroy conservatives all across the country.
22:51
Speaker 3: Look, it was unmitigated evil, and it was driven part
22:54
Speaker 3: of it was driven by hate. Today, the defining characteristic
22:57
Speaker 3: I think of the Democrat Party is they hate your father. Yeah, uh,
23:01
Speaker 3: and they hate your family. I mean that anything connected
23:04
Speaker 3: to your father they hate. And I think it also, though,
23:08
Speaker 3: was a deep contempt for democracy. I think every one
23:11
Speaker 3: of these indictments, I think the weaponization that we saw
23:14
Speaker 3: their underlying terror is that the voters would do what
23:18
Speaker 3: they did in November of twenty twenty four and vote
23:20
Speaker 3: to re elect your father. And this was all about
23:23
Speaker 3: undermining democracy and preventing the voters from doing that. You know, Eric,
23:28
Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier that you described yourself as as the
23:30
Speaker 3: most subpoena man in America. How many subpoenas did you get?
23:34
Speaker 3: And and and and did you testify a lot of times?
23:37
Speaker 3: Were they demanding documents? What subpoenas were coming?
23:39
Speaker 6: In one hundred twelve subpoenas. I sat in more depositions
23:43
Speaker 6: than any human being in the history of of of
23:45
Speaker 6: of depositions. And by the way, these are like big
23:47
Speaker 6: boy subpoenas, right, They're all coming from you know, your
23:49
Speaker 6: close friend Elizabeth Warren as we like to call our Pocahontas.
23:52
Speaker 6: And in many and many others we turned over. I mean,
23:55
Speaker 6: they would ask for document discovery, you know, please give
23:58
Speaker 6: us every email in the company, and they would a
24:00
Speaker 6: thousand words. But aside from that, they would list national
24:03
Speaker 6: and international. Well, all our hotels are Trump International Hotel,
24:06
Speaker 6: and all our golf courses are Trump National Golf Course.
24:08
Speaker 6: You could probably see where this is going. Every email
24:11
Speaker 6: signature of every person in the company either has the
24:14
Speaker 6: word national or international in it. That's their fishing expedition.
24:17
Speaker 6: I actually brought this to the Supreme Court, and the
24:19
Speaker 6: Supreme Court specifically told them you can't fish right, and
24:22
Speaker 6: they they did it anyway. The judges didn't give a damn.
24:25
Speaker 6: They wanted to find any comma that was out of place,
24:28
Speaker 6: and they couldn't. I mean, in the Letitia James trial,
24:32
Speaker 6: literally Deutsche Bank was on the stand saying that Trump
24:34
Speaker 6: was the best lender that they've ever had.
24:36
Speaker 5: Right.
24:36
Speaker 6: We made them hundreds of millions of dollars, paid off
24:38
Speaker 6: every loan, paid it off ahead of time, never missed
24:41
Speaker 6: a payment. Even in the darkest days of COVID, when
24:44
Speaker 6: they made a shutdown our properties. We never missed, we
24:47
Speaker 6: never defaulted, we never breached a covenant. And then one
24:50
Speaker 6: day I wake up to the nightmare of your fine
24:52
Speaker 6: six hundred million dollars for doing nothing wrong with banks
24:56
Speaker 6: that loved us, that testified that they loved us. I
24:58
Speaker 6: mean it was you know, and that's because you had
25:00
Speaker 6: a crooked judge again, got overturned five zero at the
25:03
Speaker 6: next court. But they rigged out the entire system. And
25:07
Speaker 6: you're seeing them do that right now, right, You're seeing
25:09
Speaker 6: them do that in Washington, DC, where ninety four percent
25:11
Speaker 6: of the cases that go in front of the lower
25:13
Speaker 6: Course are literally, you know, going against the administration, and
25:17
Speaker 6: then they all have to go up on a po
25:19
Speaker 6: and get overturned. But guys, the beautiful thing about the
25:21
Speaker 6: story is we won, right. I mean, the media loss,
25:25
Speaker 6: The media lost their credibility. No one likes the mainstream media.
25:29
Speaker 6: I mean, my wife is on Fox News on a
25:31
Speaker 6: Saturday and nine pm, and she's getting four expra ratings
25:35
Speaker 6: of CNN on the same time slot on a Tuesday, Wednesday,
25:39
Speaker 6: Thursday in primetime slots. Right, no one likes the mainstream media.
25:43
Speaker 6: ABC's dead, NBC's dead, CNN's dead and independent voices like
25:48
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25:51
Speaker 3: And by the way, she is doing an awesome job.
25:53
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25:55
Speaker 3: she's she's a great interviewer because she's relaxed, she's having fun,
25:58
Speaker 3: she's asking real quiest questions and and it's night and day.
26:02
Speaker 3: Uh you know, I I will occasionally do do CNN.
26:05
Speaker 3: Poor Ben was on CNN for six seven years. I
26:08
Speaker 3: actually think he has a padded room and he like
26:11
Speaker 3: like puts on a straight activity remembers those.
26:13
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26:15
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I just came off Caitlyn Collins about twenty
26:17
Speaker 6: minutes ago, right, So it's not some prayers.
26:23
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's so bad. Let me ask you
26:28
Speaker 3: when all of this was coming in. And it is
26:31
Speaker 3: not exaggeration to say there has never been a political
26:34
Speaker 3: leader subject to more weaponization, more assaults, more insanely unfair
26:44
Speaker 3: attacks than that than your father has been.
26:47
Speaker 4: Was there ever a time that.
26:48
Speaker 3: That that you felt yourself giving in to despair and
26:52
Speaker 3: and and do you think your dad ever did?
26:54
Speaker 4: Yeah?
26:54
Speaker 6: Honestly, it's like we're like masochistic, We like we like
26:57
Speaker 6: pain or something along those lines or it's like a
26:59
Speaker 6: weird a weird trade, right, And I think it served
27:02
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27:04
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27:05
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27:08
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27:09
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27:13
Speaker 6: We want to end end wokeness. We wanted to stop
27:16
Speaker 6: the dei nonsense. You know, men my size swimming in
27:20
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27:23
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27:27
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27:29
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27:31
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27:33
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27:35
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Speaker 1: All right, So, our guest with us is Eric Trump, Senator.
29:32
Speaker 2: You and I were just talking with him about this
29:35
Speaker 2: really his family being under siege. You talked about these
29:38
Speaker 2: big boy subpoenas part of that is to financially hurt you.
29:44
Speaker 2: What did you, guys, spend just doing the fighting of
29:48
Speaker 2: all the lawsuits against you during that four year period?
29:52
Speaker 1: How much did it cost you?
29:54
Speaker 5: Roughly four hundred million?
29:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, I laugh when people I, oh, Trump is
29:59
Speaker 6: profiting off of go man, I go, wha wait?
30:01
Speaker 5: Excuse me.
30:02
Speaker 6: If you want to come in, I'll break down the finances.
30:04
Speaker 6: You want a Trump's profit. We spent four hundred million
30:09
Speaker 6: dollars to defend ourselves against nonsense, the fact that we
30:11
Speaker 6: did not have secret servers communicating with the Kremlin, the
30:14
Speaker 6: fact that Don wasn't a Russian agent.
30:18
Speaker 5: Remember you had Adam Schiff out there every single day.
30:21
Speaker 6: Donald Trump Junior is a Russian agent, guys, if he wasn't.
30:25
Speaker 6: If he wasn't protected by the speech and debate laws,
30:28
Speaker 6: you would have, honestly, the guy would have been worth
30:30
Speaker 6: a zero. He would have been living in a shoe
30:31
Speaker 6: box based on the fact that you would have sued
30:33
Speaker 6: him for slander and taken everything that he ever had.
30:37
Speaker 6: It was all made up lies. They did everything they
30:40
Speaker 6: possibly could to take us down. We spent over four
30:42
Speaker 6: hundred million dollars between that. You know, Letitia, you know
30:45
Speaker 6: Alvin braggsy Vance, you know Fanny.
30:49
Speaker 5: I mean, I could go on and on the raids
30:51
Speaker 5: the Mara alive.
30:51
Speaker 4: What was the worst to deal with?
30:52
Speaker 3: Between Alvin Braggs, Sye Vance, Letitia, James jack Smith, who
30:56
Speaker 3: was the worst?
30:57
Speaker 5: Probably Letitia, if you want to know the truth. I mean,
31:01
Speaker 5: it was so corrupt.
31:03
Speaker 6: And I don't know Alvin Braggby's you had Breshawn, I
31:05
Speaker 6: mean Judge Barshawn's daughter is like that, the head digital
31:08
Speaker 6: fundraiser for the Democratic Party. And the guy wouldn't recuse himself,
31:12
Speaker 6: and literally you'd be sitting in these courtrooms guys, and
31:14
Speaker 6: I would not leave my father's side. I sat next
31:16
Speaker 6: to him every single day. If he was there, I
31:19
Speaker 6: was gonna be there as a son to support him,
31:21
Speaker 6: you know, and most of the time, some of these
31:23
Speaker 6: cases I wasn't gagged in so normally I was the
31:25
Speaker 6: guy in the courthouse steps, you know, shouting and yelling
31:27
Speaker 6: at the cameras as to what the hell was actually
31:29
Speaker 6: going on, because that's the only way you could communicate
31:31
Speaker 6: a message. But guys, I mean, you had liberal and
31:34
Speaker 6: I mean liberal reporters who were in that courtroom shaking
31:37
Speaker 6: their head saying none of this makes any sense. I mean,
31:40
Speaker 6: they shut down all of Manhattan, Lower Manhattan for a
31:44
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars payment that my father didn't even make,
31:47
Speaker 6: made by a lawyer. They indicted him thirty four times.
31:51
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, al Capone had had one fell
31:53
Speaker 6: in the indictment. They indicted my father thirty four times
31:56
Speaker 6: for one hundred thousand dollars payment, by the way, by
31:59
Speaker 6: a district attorney who ran on the premise, you know,
32:02
Speaker 6: of reducing what you know, just decriminalizing just about anything.
32:06
Speaker 6: You know, you can shoot somebody in the face in
32:07
Speaker 6: Times Square and it was decriminalized, and you're gonna let
32:10
Speaker 6: them out, and you know, you're gonna have community policing
32:12
Speaker 6: and all sorts of nonsense. I mean, he ran on
32:14
Speaker 6: the premise of literally emptying Rikers Island, so you had
32:17
Speaker 6: no criminals in there. Yet you know, thirty four felonies
32:20
Speaker 6: in six month period of time is shutting down New
32:22
Speaker 6: York in the FDR drive every day over one hundred
32:24
Speaker 6: thousand dollars.
32:24
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't believable.
32:26
Speaker 3: If only your father were mugging people in Times Square,
32:30
Speaker 3: then Alvin Bragg would never have prosecuted him. But instead
32:34
Speaker 3: he committed the unspeakable sin of not only being president
32:37
Speaker 3: of the United States, but being an extraordinarily successful and
32:40
Speaker 3: bold president of the United States, which is an unpardonable sin.
32:45
Speaker 3: All right, we don't have much much time left, but
32:47
Speaker 3: I want to take it a little bit lighter and
32:50
Speaker 3: ask what was it like?
32:52
Speaker 4: Like?
32:52
Speaker 3: Your father is unique. I've never in my life have
32:56
Speaker 3: I met anyone remotely like your father. He and I
33:00
Speaker 3: have spent a lot of time together. He has extraordinary courage.
33:03
Speaker 3: But before he was president, what was it like growing
33:06
Speaker 3: up as a kid with Donald Trump as your father?
33:09
Speaker 4: Like? Like, like, how what was he like as a
33:11
Speaker 4: dad when you were ten?
33:13
Speaker 6: Honestly, the greatest dad you can ever imagine, expected big
33:16
Speaker 6: things from us, right, I mean every day I go
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Speaker 6: give him kiss before I went to school. Honey, no
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Speaker 6: drink drinking, no drugs, no smoking. You better get good grades.
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Speaker 6: And by the way, never trust anybody. Right he did
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Speaker 6: once in a while I had that he never never
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Speaker 6: trust anyone. Hey, that's probably that was going to be
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Speaker 6: I said, I probably benefited us pretty well, so amazing guy.
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Speaker 6: You know, listen, we're spoiled as hell. And that we
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Speaker 6: lived in you know, Trump Tower. We had a beautiful
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Speaker 6: roof over our head. We were always well fed. We
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Speaker 6: we had the best education, but we were never handed money.
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Speaker 6: We're never handy cash. If we wanted something. If I
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Speaker 6: wanted a fishing road, congratulations, you're working for it. I
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Speaker 6: got on our construction sites when I was eleven years old,
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Speaker 6: doing demo, doing electrical HVAC you know, running back hose excavators.
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Speaker 6: You know, I grew up working with my hands on
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Speaker 6: our construction sites with many of the guys that work
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Speaker 6: for me today. And you know what, he wanted us
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Speaker 6: to learn a trait. He wanted us to learn the
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Speaker 6: value of a dollar. And by the way, he wanted
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Speaker 6: us to be tired as hell at the end of
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Speaker 6: the day. You know, because listen, don't give type A
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Speaker 6: kids or any kid, but don't give type A kids
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Speaker 6: money or free time, because bad things happen.
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Speaker 5: And he was an amazing father. He is an amazing father.
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Speaker 6: And everything we've ever done, we fought together, whether it's
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Speaker 6: real estate, whether it was The Apprentice. I was on
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Speaker 6: that for seven seasons, and then in politics. I mean
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Speaker 6: when he decided to run, he said to us, he goes,
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Speaker 6: you know, kids, let's do this. You know, I was
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Speaker 6: on Megan Kelly. I didn't know what the hell immigration was.
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Speaker 6: I mean, Senator, this was not my world. I built,
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Speaker 6: you know, hotels, and all of a sudden, I'm in the.
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Speaker 1: Middle of box, I a wall, and now you're on TV.
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Speaker 6: I've got ninety illegal immigrants around me, and I'm battling
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Speaker 6: all of them, and I don't know the first damn
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Speaker 6: thing about illegal immigration, right. I mean, like, this is
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Speaker 6: not the world that we came from. But my father's
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Speaker 6: a remarkable guy. My mother was an amazing powerhouse and strict,
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Speaker 6: demanded manners, demanded respect, demanded work ethic and either the
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Speaker 6: greatest parents you can ever imagine. I spent a lot
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Speaker 6: of time in underseaged talking about you know, being raised
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Speaker 6: by them, and you know it is unique in so
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Speaker 6: many ways, but they they did everything they could in
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Speaker 6: this strange world that we lived in, uh, to ground
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Speaker 6: us and make sure we turned out to be hard workers,
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Speaker 6: normal uh, you know, and didn't have any of these
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Speaker 6: kind of Hunter Biden esque problems. I don't have a
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Speaker 6: laptop from hell, you know, I don't do finger paintings
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Speaker 6: selling it to you know.
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Speaker 5: Foreign nationals all over the world.
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Speaker 6: You know, never married my you know, my brother's ex wife, Like,
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Speaker 6: never did that kind of stuff. No drugs, no, you know,
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Speaker 6: no perversion. I was always a good kid who believed
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Speaker 6: in God and believed in hard work and you know,
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Speaker 6: lived an honest life.
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Speaker 3: Eric, I can't tell you how many times, dozens, if
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Speaker 3: not hundreds of times people have commented that one of
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Speaker 3: the things they admire most about your dad.
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Speaker 4: Is is you and your brothers and sisters.
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Speaker 3: And listen, it is hard for for any successful person
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Speaker 3: to to raise good kids.
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Speaker 4: It's challenging. There's a lot of pressure and.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I, I know, know your entire family,
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Speaker 3: and I will say literally people early on throughout the process,
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Speaker 3: they'll comment, well, you know, somehow his kids are like,
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Speaker 3: like not messed up and incredibly successful and put together
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Speaker 3: and and I mean it's all right, let me ask you.
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Speaker 3: Let's let let's say we have some young parents that
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Speaker 3: are listening to this podcast. Are there any lessons a
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Speaker 3: young parent by the way, uh, you know Ben, Ben
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Speaker 3: has young kids, I have teenage Are there any lessons
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Speaker 3: any lessons from your dad that that young parents should
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Speaker 3: know or lessons that you've tried to apply.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, keep them poor and make them start working early. Honestly,
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Speaker 6: I mean that's what it is. Keep them poor. Don't
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Speaker 6: don't give type A kids money and don't give them
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Speaker 6: endless time. That's just a bad recipe, right, And and
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Speaker 6: you know, I can't tell you, guys how many friends
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Speaker 6: I had, you know, who were who were peers who
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Speaker 6: went to school with me, And you know, three quarters
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Speaker 6: of them ended up in rehab and and a lot
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Speaker 6: of them went down bad roads. And guess what they
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Speaker 6: were getting ferraris you know when they're you know, sixteen
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Speaker 6: years old, Like, what what do you ever want to
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Speaker 6: aspire to to to get? If if that's that's how
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Speaker 6: you're being raised? I mean, does it surprise you that
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Speaker 6: those people don't have work?
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Speaker 5: Ethic.
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Speaker 6: Does it surprise you that they go down bad roads?
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Speaker 6: And my father would never let that happen to us.
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Speaker 6: And you know, he made us work our butts off.
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Speaker 6: And believe me, if I wasn't good at what I
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Speaker 6: did real estate wise, I would not be in this chair.
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Speaker 5: I mean, forget about bapotism for a second.
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Speaker 4: It.
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Speaker 6: You know, if we weren't incredibly capable, believe me, I
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be running one of the largest real estate empires
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Speaker 6: anywhere in the world. And he made us work, and
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Speaker 6: he made us prove that we were good at what
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Speaker 6: we do, and we fought every single day. And we're
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Speaker 6: an incredibly tight family. And he's a remarkable person. He's
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Speaker 6: my best friend. I love him to death, and I'm
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Speaker 6: so proud of him, especially in a week where he's
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Speaker 6: accomplished as much as he had. I am so damn
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Speaker 6: proud of he, of what he did and what he's accomplished.
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Speaker 6: And the hell of a journey, guys, it's all worth it.
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Speaker 6: This is all worth it. The siege is all worth
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Speaker 6: it based on you know, the great things that are
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Speaker 6: happening to our country, in our world.
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Speaker 2: Grab the book Under Siege Amazon right now. Eric a pleasure.
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