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- 2:15Speaker 1: for listening. My next guest is an award winning broadcaster.
- 2:19Speaker 1: She's often seen on on the popular TV one series
- 2:23Speaker 1: I See All the Time Unsung because she is a
- 2:25Speaker 1: celebrity strategist. That's why she knows everybody who has coached
- 2:30Speaker 1: everyone from we All to t I. She is an
- 2:33Speaker 1: in demand speaker and CEO of influence entertained a beautiful website.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I'm driving people this webs I went to the the website,
- 2:40Speaker 1: got jealous, not only jealous because I'm beautiful to look,
- 2:44Speaker 1: but how beautiful you look? Going like, hey man, I
- 2:46Speaker 1: needed to work with her. Please, welcome to money making
- 2:50Speaker 1: conversations the mother of Black music, Mom Deanna Williams. So
- 2:57Speaker 1: thank you for that beautiful introduction. And you got me
- 2:59Speaker 1: over here, and I don't think come now, no, no,
- 3:04Speaker 1: I'm looking at the website. Now. You know got an
- 3:06Speaker 1: arms phone, they got that little great flash in the
- 3:09Speaker 1: big earing the jewelry. I'm like, this game is in entertainment,
- 3:16Speaker 1: refinement and communication because when people come on my show, Diana,
- 3:21Speaker 1: I do my research. I don't just like you know,
- 3:23Speaker 1: they'll send me like five the ten questions that go,
- 3:25Speaker 1: that's cool, that's cool. Let me let me find out
- 3:28Speaker 1: some more stuff. And so, so what you are a
- 3:31Speaker 1: branding expert, that's what you do. And so I always look,
- 3:34Speaker 1: you know, I always look at people and said, what
- 3:36Speaker 1: differently what they do? Like some people say they do
- 3:38Speaker 1: social media, that go to them and they have no followers.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I go, okay, okay, if they cannot building their brand,
- 3:44Speaker 1: how they're gonna build my brand? And so so if
- 3:47Speaker 1: you're an influenced person, if you're a branding expert and strategist,
- 3:51Speaker 1: and I go to your website and I go and
- 3:53Speaker 1: that's what I do. I go, Wow, this is hot,
- 3:56Speaker 1: and I just grow down, you know, just come on down.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Absolutely necessary to need for effective communication, you know, star
- 4:05Speaker 1: after star my board, Charlie Wilson on here, you know,
- 4:10Speaker 1: Alan Iver since she let you know, as a versa,
- 4:12Speaker 1: the roster that she deals with here and then she
- 4:15Speaker 1: come down here with her hand on, you know, hand
- 4:18Speaker 1: underneath her cheen a little you know, a little pensive
- 4:21Speaker 1: look of success. You know, you know, got the got
- 4:24Speaker 1: the empire state, building the aerial shot on the corporate roster,
- 4:28Speaker 1: letting you know she's not just dealing with talent. She
- 4:30Speaker 1: has fortune five hundred companies on her roster. And it's
- 4:34Speaker 1: just a beautiful thing that you're doing. Tell us about
- 4:37Speaker 1: this website before we start talking about anything else, because
- 4:40Speaker 1: I've walked everybody through this website participation. Did you have
- 4:45Speaker 1: involved in this, Diana, the floor is yours to talk
- 4:48Speaker 1: about your website like your website Influence Entertainment dot com. Yes,
- 4:53Speaker 1: it is. Thank you. I have to give credit to
- 4:55Speaker 1: like Star Media Group who designed it, and also my
- 4:59Speaker 1: VPS R Jenas Whiskey, who keeps it updated. And these
- 5:03Speaker 1: are people that I've had the good fortune of working
- 5:06Speaker 1: with over the past twenty six years. I've coached CEOs
- 5:11Speaker 1: of record companies. I've coached Kathy who's the CEO of
- 5:15Speaker 1: Urban One, tons of artists, athletes, business leaders, thought leaders,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and it is just my passion and it is what
- 5:25Speaker 1: it is the divine that I've been given. It's just
- 5:28Speaker 1: the blessing to be able to help other people recognize
- 5:31Speaker 1: their strengths and weaknesses. And in that process it's allowed
- 5:35Speaker 1: me to grow as a professional, as a mother, as
- 5:38Speaker 1: a woman, as a member of my community. So I
- 5:41Speaker 1: love what I do, and I do what I love
- 5:44Speaker 1: well you know, it's really important because you know, we
- 5:46Speaker 1: we met through an interview that we met again at
- 5:49Speaker 1: the Los Angeles where you was being honored UM and
- 5:53Speaker 1: the Legends several years ago, and it's one of the says,
- 6:00Speaker 1: I keep it on. Mine's one up there with my
- 6:02Speaker 1: EMI is up there with my My Image awards is
- 6:05Speaker 1: up there, Withever award I got, I got my legend
- 6:07Speaker 1: right in the middle, because they're beautiful plactic to give
- 6:09Speaker 1: you beautiful you know when you when somebody honors you
- 6:13Speaker 1: like that, Dianna, tell me, tell the Walkers do the
- 6:17Speaker 1: steps of that, because that's a that's about a legacy,
- 6:19Speaker 1: that's about trust, that's about relationships. That's why people are
- 6:22Speaker 1: saying you your accomplished things in life in the entertainment world.
- 6:26Speaker 1: That's unique. And more importantly, you get back, may not
- 6:30Speaker 1: always be financially, but you get back because you don't
- 6:33Speaker 1: just ignore other people's you know, flaws, other people's missteps.
- 6:38Speaker 1: You're there to support and mentor talk to us about that.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I'm sure you can speak volumes to this.
- 6:44Speaker 1: With the awards that you decited, your multiple Emmys and
- 6:47Speaker 1: double ad tongues of awards, you don't do the work
- 6:50Speaker 1: or awards. However, when your peers and your community acknowledges
- 6:57Speaker 1: that you have been super serving, you feel good. The
- 7:00Speaker 1: events that you're referring to is the Living Legends Foundation.
- 7:03Speaker 1: In October and Los Angeles, I had the esteem honor
- 7:07Speaker 1: of receiving a Lifetime Achievement award. I've been working in
- 7:10Speaker 1: the music industry since nineteen seventy three. Is when I
- 7:14Speaker 1: first got my check on an ongoing basis. I was
- 7:18Speaker 1: on the air at ninety six point three. W h
- 7:20Speaker 1: you are. I'm sure you're very familiar with one of
- 7:24Speaker 1: mine as well. My gave me my start, Bob Nighthawk
- 7:27Speaker 1: Perry uh and so you you when you get those
- 7:32Speaker 1: kinds of recognition, you just feel good. It's something that
- 7:36Speaker 1: you can go like my mother, my children, my family
- 7:39Speaker 1: and friends and say your support of me. My endeavors
- 7:43Speaker 1: my time away from you, traveling to be with my clients,
- 7:47Speaker 1: going all over the world. This is this is the
- 7:50Speaker 1: sum total, this is the bottom line. So you know,
- 7:54Speaker 1: like you, I have many, many awards, but the greatest
- 7:56Speaker 1: award for me is the law recognition of love. And
- 8:02Speaker 1: I get from you know, and I have to agree
- 8:05Speaker 1: with that because of the fact that I always tell people,
- 8:08Speaker 1: you know, you might not like me, but as long
- 8:10Speaker 1: as you respect me, we're good. Because I fight. I
- 8:13Speaker 1: fight for respect. I fight for respect, fight for respect
- 8:16Speaker 1: for my client or any product I represent. It's about
- 8:19Speaker 1: respect because in the end, wanted to be like, it's cool,
- 8:23Speaker 1: that's all right, But I don't think that. I don't
- 8:25Speaker 1: think your left and legacy can be built on wanting
- 8:27Speaker 1: to be liked. But your legacy can be built on
- 8:30Speaker 1: what you accomplished and how much people respect you. And
- 8:33Speaker 1: that's and that's what I'm leaning towards. This conversation about
- 8:37Speaker 1: all the people who have come to you for advice.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Welcomes through that step because you know, I've had my
- 8:44Speaker 1: success with a limited amount of people. I know a
- 8:46Speaker 1: lot of people, and a lot of people have I've
- 8:48Speaker 1: not managed them or put them on my roster, and
- 8:51Speaker 1: they come to me advice. I get taxed, I get
- 8:53Speaker 1: phone calls, I get emails. But you they've come to
- 8:55Speaker 1: you and say, hey, you are the one. How did
- 8:58Speaker 1: you make the transition? Role? MM? Excellent questions. So I
- 9:03Speaker 1: started in the industry as the broadcaster radio just referenced
- 9:07Speaker 1: point w h R where I started as Ebony moon
- 9:10Speaker 1: Beans was my radio handle, and I did that. I
- 9:14Speaker 1: then left d C went to New York, which is
- 9:16Speaker 1: my hometown. I grew up in the Bronx and Harlem
- 9:19Speaker 1: in Manhattan, and Frankie Crocker, who was then the Dean
- 9:22Speaker 1: of Black Radio, hired me a w BLS, which remains
- 9:26Speaker 1: much like w h OUR heritage station in New York
- 9:30Speaker 1: and a voice the Clarion voice in the black community
- 9:33Speaker 1: and other communities as well. Uh Skip Dillard is the
- 9:36Speaker 1: current program director. But anyway, yes, he's I love him.
- 9:40Speaker 1: He has just he's just such a he's just so
- 9:43Speaker 1: accomplished and wonderful. But I one day I was I
- 9:48Speaker 1: took a break from radio and I started managing an
- 9:51Speaker 1: artist by the name of Gary Taylor. He's a songwriter,
- 9:54Speaker 1: producer who wrote Just gets Better with Time for the Whispers,
- 9:58Speaker 1: he wrote Good Love for Nita Baker. Just a very
- 10:00Speaker 1: talented writer, producer, artist, and Sharon Haywood was the head
- 10:05Speaker 1: of the record label at that point, the Black Music
- 10:08Speaker 1: Division just me to lunch one ngage. She said, you know, Dianna,
- 10:11Speaker 1: I've been watching you. Artists seemed to like you, and
- 10:15Speaker 1: you seem to be able to communicate with them, you
- 10:17Speaker 1: should do artist development, and I was like, really, Sharon,
- 10:20Speaker 1: I had never considered it. And then at that point
- 10:24Speaker 1: I just started doing explored, you know, Sharon Saronywood, Sharon
- 10:29Speaker 1: wo suggested. But my first job came from Jimmy Damn
- 10:33Speaker 1: and Terry Lewis's record label, and I coached a group
- 10:36Speaker 1: named Solo and from that point, Sean, my phone has
- 10:40Speaker 1: not stopped ringing. I have never advertised I do not solicit,
- 10:45Speaker 1: and after Solo, I worked with Vertical Whole, Angie Stones Group,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and I've worked with D'Angelo who to this day is
- 10:52Speaker 1: my closest confidante, best friend, you know, beloved, cared for
- 10:57Speaker 1: him deeply, and like I said, the phone and just
- 10:59Speaker 1: had to stop ringing. So I'm typically hired by publicists, managers.
- 11:04Speaker 1: In some cases I've had artists um and then again,
- 11:08Speaker 1: as we discussed the outside of our conversation, I've worked
- 11:12Speaker 1: with athletes and work with Roy Jones Jr. When he
- 11:15Speaker 1: was heavyweight boxer. So it's been a mix of people
- 11:19Speaker 1: that I've had the opportunity to work with, and I
- 11:21Speaker 1: discovered that it was a passion I relish seeing people
- 11:26Speaker 1: accomplish their dreams I would really do, and I love that.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I love to see people be successful. It's really it's
- 11:32Speaker 1: really interesting because you're telling the truth. And I will
- 11:36Speaker 1: just tell you if you ever try to get in
- 11:38Speaker 1: this business and as a as a a person who
- 11:42Speaker 1: sits down there, all these individuals want is the truth.
- 11:47Speaker 1: But how you tell them the truth is the key,
- 11:51Speaker 1: but also also the fact that you have to be
- 11:54Speaker 1: able to tell them sometimes. Actually how it is because
- 12:00Speaker 1: and I talked to him all the time. I said,
- 12:02Speaker 1: when you were represented about William Mars or I C
- 12:04Speaker 1: M or c A. They got ten thousand clients over there,
- 12:09Speaker 1: and all of my hustling from anywhere from five to
- 12:12Speaker 1: ten percent commission. So it means that you're just a
- 12:15Speaker 1: car note, the house note or whatever. Now she'll tell
- 12:19Speaker 1: you herself. She's on the end. When when after the
- 12:22Speaker 1: deal is done, they're talking to you, Dianna, they're talking
- 12:25Speaker 1: about Sean McDonald. The agents. You know where to be fine,
- 12:28Speaker 1: they know where to be found. Then you know when
- 12:31Speaker 1: they frustrated when things don't go right, they come to
- 12:34Speaker 1: After the agent doesn't talk to you, they come talk
- 12:36Speaker 1: to you. They come talk to me. And that part
- 12:39Speaker 1: of the conversation really grows you as an individual. And
- 12:45Speaker 1: as we reflect on what we've done in our lives,
- 12:48Speaker 1: what do you think you've taken the way the most
- 12:50Speaker 1: from giving people advice? What what nuggets have you brought
- 12:53Speaker 1: back into your life? I guess the question I'm trying
- 12:56Speaker 1: to ask you. Dianna. Absolutely but you know you're absolutely right,
- 12:59Speaker 1: because every client that I work with I glean, I learned,
- 13:03Speaker 1: I applied to my own situation. I take away some
- 13:07Speaker 1: of the values and the the lessons. Last night, I
- 13:10Speaker 1: worked with a gospel inspirational gospel artist and I told
- 13:14Speaker 1: her at the conclusion of our session, I was like,
- 13:17Speaker 1: now you've inviused me. I've been lifted and inspired by
- 13:22Speaker 1: what you have shared with me in your journey. And
- 13:25Speaker 1: so it is constantly a learning process for me. I
- 13:28Speaker 1: am not empirical. I do not know at all, but
- 13:31Speaker 1: I do know a lot. I was a college dropout.
- 13:34Speaker 1: I went back to Temple University, got my degree, and
- 13:37Speaker 1: it strengthened me as an artist development media coach. So
- 13:42Speaker 1: I hear music, Well, we've got to go to the
- 13:44Speaker 1: next break. Let's see your radio people act, interview people
- 13:49Speaker 1: who know the game. You know, I've done. My five
- 13:51Speaker 1: of the interviews on the pedal said, I am music.
- 13:54Speaker 1: I guess we better stop then you. Yeah, yeah, we'll
- 14:00Speaker 1: be right back. I'm talking to the ambassador of Mother
- 14:03Speaker 1: of Black music. Moment. We'll come back as June, and
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- 16:34Speaker 1: I'm interviewing a friend. You know something it's really interesting
- 16:37Speaker 1: is that she's a person that it's very few people
- 16:40Speaker 1: who are coming too my life because I'm a real
- 16:43Speaker 1: solo person. If yeah, I really um, I think all
- 16:48Speaker 1: the time. I would tell people that are twenty four
- 16:50Speaker 1: hours in the day, learn to use every hour. I'm
- 16:52Speaker 1: that type of person. I go to bed and actually
- 16:55Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do when I get up. That
- 16:57Speaker 1: allows me motivation to get up. And so when she
- 17:01Speaker 1: interviewed me, I would say, I would call this industry love.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I just fell in love with her energy, her vision,
- 17:11Speaker 1: or she's accomplished because she's so humble, and that's that's
- 17:14Speaker 1: a quality that I have. You know a lot of people,
- 17:17Speaker 1: you've done a lot reshawn You don't you don't hype
- 17:19Speaker 1: yourself enough well, I don't have time to be hyping
- 17:22Speaker 1: myself because I have so many other things I want
- 17:25Speaker 1: to do. That's a that's an accomplishment I have achieved now.
- 17:28Speaker 1: One of the you're not leading with the ego. That's
- 17:30Speaker 1: what I would say that you're not leading with your ego.
- 17:34Speaker 1: When you with special people, they give your extra terminology
- 17:37Speaker 1: to carry you forward. You know that's in there. You
- 17:40Speaker 1: know that's in the book. Now, I don't leave im ego.
- 17:44Speaker 1: I don't need to tell people my resume. I don't
- 17:47Speaker 1: need to go to the mountaintop and tell people I'm
- 17:49Speaker 1: standing on top. They can see me exactly. Black Music Mom, Okay,
- 17:57Speaker 1: when did this start? Tune? Black Music Month was started
- 18:03Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. It was actually June seventh, nine
- 18:07Speaker 1: seventy nine on the Law and of the White House.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Then President Jimmy Carter and his wife Rosalind hosted oh
- 18:15Speaker 1: proximately three hundred music industry leaders. There was a concert
- 18:19Speaker 1: of performance with Chuck Berry, uh Sarah Powell, who was
- 18:23Speaker 1: a classical singer. Dexter Onesell led the MFS. The Orchestra
- 18:29Speaker 1: um Eblen Champagne King performed as well. It was a
- 18:32Speaker 1: great day and it was a picnic on the lawn
- 18:35Speaker 1: with tons of very accomplished black folks and so that
- 18:40Speaker 1: was the very first celebration, and it was done at
- 18:44Speaker 1: the encouragement of the then Black Music Association that was
- 18:48Speaker 1: founded by my ex Kenny Gamble, who's one of the
- 18:51Speaker 1: architects of the Sound of Philadelphia Rock and Roll Hall
- 18:54Speaker 1: of Famer, multiple Grammy Award winner. So we went that
- 18:58Speaker 1: day and it was a beautiful events that celebrated not
- 19:03Speaker 1: just Black artistry but American music, which is why it
- 19:07Speaker 1: is important for us to celebrate June Black Music Month
- 19:11Speaker 1: as an opportunity for us. Are concentrated months for us
- 19:15Speaker 1: to recognize the contributions of people in the past, this
- 19:18Speaker 1: generation of music makers, and the ones to come. And
- 19:21Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the artist on the mic.
- 19:24Speaker 1: I'm talking about the songwriters, the producers, the engineers, the
- 19:28Speaker 1: people in the pressing plants, folks who work at Apple Music, Spotify, Title,
- 19:35Speaker 1: the streaming digital services, any and everybody involved in the
- 19:39Speaker 1: production of music and its consumption. Rashan, I'm talking also
- 19:44Speaker 1: about consumers, so anybody who loves black music. And I
- 19:49Speaker 1: might add that while it's a concentrated period of time
- 19:52Speaker 1: for us to celebrate American music made by black folks.
- 19:56Speaker 1: It's something that we celebrate every single day of our lives,
- 20:00Speaker 1: starting when you heard your mama's heart beat. Absolutely started
- 20:03Speaker 1: then and it will continue until your very last breath. Really,
- 20:07Speaker 1: because we consume huge quantities of music. Absolutely, It's really
- 20:12Speaker 1: interesting because um uh, music plays such an important role
- 20:16Speaker 1: in my life. You know, I'm fortunate uh to understand
- 20:21Speaker 1: music of the sixties and seventies and eighties, and each
- 20:23Speaker 1: decade is a transition. You know, went from the sixties
- 20:27Speaker 1: that pop sound of the Temptations, four tops behind the
- 20:30Speaker 1: Ross that the music shifted us, shifted us, and then
- 20:34Speaker 1: the funk landed, you know, in the seventies, the funk landed.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Then I went into the you know, the disco, and
- 20:40Speaker 1: then the then then the New Edition drove me out
- 20:43Speaker 1: of the pulled me out of it and pulled me
- 20:46Speaker 1: out of this, you know, and uh and then and
- 20:49Speaker 1: then we came into with Steve and I started doing
- 20:52Speaker 1: radio in two thousand, you know where you know fusion,
- 20:55Speaker 1: you know Jill Scott, you know, Kim, Alicia Keys, Uh,
- 21:00Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson came back and the rapp of course was running, running,
- 21:05Speaker 1: rampant all that time. But I was, I was. I
- 21:07Speaker 1: was driving the other day and I have this like
- 21:10Speaker 1: a like two songs I have on Pandora. I was
- 21:14Speaker 1: just my love playlist, and I realized that there are
- 21:18Speaker 1: songs that I relate to that and I think about
- 21:22Speaker 1: the person that I'm with or experiencing that moment with,
- 21:26Speaker 1: and I go, you know something, I'll bet you this
- 21:28Speaker 1: song doesn't even mean that much to that person that
- 21:31Speaker 1: I'm thinking about when I hear this song. And that's
- 21:34Speaker 1: what music is to me and to everybody. It's that
- 21:38Speaker 1: moment that's important to you when you hear it again
- 21:42Speaker 1: or you heard it for the very first time. It
- 21:44Speaker 1: may not be important to you, Diana, that same song,
- 21:47Speaker 1: and we may be and I may be thinking about
- 21:49Speaker 1: you in that song. I may think you thinking about
- 21:51Speaker 1: that when we were dancing, what we were eating, or
- 21:54Speaker 1: club we were in. But that's when I think about
- 21:57Speaker 1: black music, Mont That's what I think about. I think
- 22:00Speaker 1: about the motion. The memory is important to me. You know,
- 22:05Speaker 1: it might not be important to you, but the music
- 22:08Speaker 1: is important to everybody because everybody has that same moment
- 22:12Speaker 1: tied to some song. That's what right well, here we go.
- 22:19Speaker 1: So there you go. So you're talking about the feeling,
- 22:23Speaker 1: kinetic energy that music gives you. It has been proven
- 22:26Speaker 1: through myriads of scientific studies that music, when it's processed
- 22:31Speaker 1: by the brain, releases certain chemicals that make us feel good.
- 22:35Speaker 1: The music, it is a healing force. I mean, I'd
- 22:39Speaker 1: rather listen to like you were talking about, the Temptations,
- 22:42Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite groups, rather than take
- 22:44Speaker 1: some medicine if I'm feeling down, I'd rather get up
- 22:48Speaker 1: and dance because it's going to release endorphins in my body.
- 22:52Speaker 1: So music is one a universal language too. It is
- 22:56Speaker 1: a healing force provided to us by Almighty God. And
- 22:59Speaker 1: I was affect what everybody believes that that's what I believe.
- 23:03Speaker 1: And the other thing that we need to discuss is
- 23:06Speaker 1: that it is one of America's greatest financial exports around
- 23:11Speaker 1: the planet, to the tune of not the hundreds, thousands, millions,
- 23:18Speaker 1: but billions and many billions of dollars. Last year, the
- 23:22Speaker 1: music industry generated approximately twenty billion dollars. And I need
- 23:27Speaker 1: to go on the record here now and say much
- 23:30Speaker 1: of that generated by black people. We don't get to
- 23:34Speaker 1: participate in the ownership as much as we ought to.
- 23:39Speaker 1: But we are generating billions of dollars from just the
- 23:43Speaker 1: sales of music. And then on top of that, our
- 23:46Speaker 1: music influences culture. Look at it across the board commercials.
- 23:51Speaker 1: I was watching a TV commercial the other day and
- 23:53Speaker 1: they were using Miles Davis music. I was like, look
- 23:56Speaker 1: at this from Kind of Blue. Miles has been dead
- 23:58Speaker 1: for years, but look this music and it invoked a
- 24:01Speaker 1: certain kind of feeling when I listened to it. So
- 24:04Speaker 1: music is used to sell everything from cars, to soap,
- 24:08Speaker 1: to cereal, you name it. Music is our music is
- 24:12Speaker 1: a money generating you're talking about money making. Black music
- 24:18Speaker 1: is a money making entity and one of our greatest
- 24:21Speaker 1: exports globally. Would that be said? You know now you're
- 24:24Speaker 1: on the board. You're a board member of the National
- 24:26Speaker 1: Museum of African American Music, which is being built in Nashville.
- 24:29Speaker 1: That so, where are we at with that? And the
- 24:34Speaker 1: real zation is going to happen? Oh? I love this museum.
- 24:38Speaker 1: It is It is the combination of all of my
- 24:41Speaker 1: work as a music activist in the industry for many years.
- 24:44Speaker 1: The museum is very close to being finished, and we
- 24:47Speaker 1: are no different. We've been impacted by the pandemic that
- 24:50Speaker 1: we are all currently going through. However, we're anticipating that
- 24:54Speaker 1: it will be finished. We're looking to do our grand
- 24:57Speaker 1: opening in the fall near la A Day, and if
- 25:01Speaker 1: in fact things have not cleared up and there's you know,
- 25:04Speaker 1: we're going to put measures and effect that will allow
- 25:07Speaker 1: people to be able to come into the museum. However,
- 25:10Speaker 1: if that does not happen where we cannot physically have
- 25:12Speaker 1: people come in yet, we are going to do a
- 25:15Speaker 1: virtual opening, a soft opening, and of course as time
- 25:20Speaker 1: progressives and it's safe for human beings to congregate, then
- 25:24Speaker 1: of course we will open. But this is a museum
- 25:26Speaker 1: and endeavor that started two thousand two and has been
- 25:29Speaker 1: going on ever since. Sixty million dollars raised. We only
- 25:33Speaker 1: have a few more million dollars to raise to finish things,
- 25:36Speaker 1: but it is um I am also the chair of
- 25:39Speaker 1: the Music Industry Relations Committee that consists of people who
- 25:43Speaker 1: are movers and shakers in the music industry who share
- 25:45Speaker 1: our cultural value and want to get the message out
- 25:49Speaker 1: not just to America but to the world at large
- 25:52Speaker 1: that African American black music is a cultural gem and
- 25:58Speaker 1: also an economic engine. So I'm excited to be on
- 26:01Speaker 1: the board. It's led by Henry Hicks. He's the CEO
- 26:04Speaker 1: and president. We have an esteemed group of people on
- 26:07Speaker 1: our board who were religently to preserve, promote and protect
- 26:12Speaker 1: our music and culture. So I'm inviting you now, Rishan,
- 26:15Speaker 1: You've gotta come Bay Badway, Yes, Broadway, at the part
- 26:20Speaker 1: of downtown Nashville, across the street from the original Ryman
- 26:31Speaker 1: six facility that when current isn't to discover the central
- 26:36Speaker 1: role of African Americans that played in shaping and creating
- 26:39Speaker 1: all genres of American music. Beautiful in all good good question. Okay,
- 26:49Speaker 1: I let's see. I want to say maybe six seven
- 26:52Speaker 1: years ago, I got a letter from Henry Hicks, who's
- 26:54Speaker 1: the CEO of the museum, telling me about this effort.
- 26:58Speaker 1: And when I saw Nashville, I must tell you I
- 27:00Speaker 1: got I got an attitude. I was by Nashville best
- 27:04Speaker 1: country music, what what what what? And he came to Philadelphia,
- 27:09Speaker 1: May I come to Cillian meet with you? And I
- 27:11Speaker 1: said yes, I was polite, sat with him head dinner,
- 27:14Speaker 1: and after that dinner I told them sold I'm there.
- 27:18Speaker 1: And at first I became a member of the advisory
- 27:20Speaker 1: board and started dipping my toe in the pond to
- 27:23Speaker 1: get to know these people and see the movement. And
- 27:26Speaker 1: as time progressed, I did two fundraisers I co chaired
- 27:29Speaker 1: with Phil Thoorton, who is the inspiration fell very good
- 27:34Speaker 1: friends as well, and we chaired too, and then to
- 27:38Speaker 1: Galas and raised money for the museum honored Charlie Wilson,
- 27:42Speaker 1: Nile Rogers, Lona Scott, Young Yalanda Adams, keb Mo. It
- 27:48Speaker 1: was a beautiful evening, but I decided to put my
- 27:53Speaker 1: energies into this museum and started learning about the musical
- 27:56Speaker 1: history of black folks in Nashville. The first major ambassadors
- 28:01Speaker 1: of black music around the world with a disc Jubilee
- 28:04Speaker 1: singers out of Nashville, Tennessee. So what I didn't know
- 28:08Speaker 1: as much as I knew about black music, I don't
- 28:10Speaker 1: know at all. But I learned that Nashville was a
- 28:14Speaker 1: center of music, not just in the gospel arena, but
- 28:18Speaker 1: all genres of music. Was so so anyway, the civic,
- 28:24Speaker 1: the government, private sector all came together. Initially this was
- 28:29Speaker 1: going to be a Black history museum, but it changed
- 28:32Speaker 1: over the years and again, as I said, sixty million
- 28:34Speaker 1: dollars later, and as you've seen from going to our website,
- 28:38Speaker 1: the National Museum of African American Music dot org. It
- 28:42Speaker 1: is a wonderful institution. I did a hard had visit
- 28:45Speaker 1: last year and literally tears came to my eyes because
- 28:49Speaker 1: I said, I looked forward to bringing my grandson, my
- 28:52Speaker 1: friends and family. And for people who don't know about
- 28:55Speaker 1: our culture as much as they should, they'll learn when
- 28:58Speaker 1: they go to the museum. This and broad Way, Nashville,
- 29:00Speaker 1: Tennessee Music City. Thank you, thank you. She is an endedman,
- 29:04Speaker 1: speaker and CEO of Influence Entertainment. Thank you Diana Williams
- 29:09Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversations. Rashan, thank you for
- 29:13Speaker 1: all you do to lift our culture are economic engines.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I have great regard for you and the words of ARESA. Franklin, R. E. S. P. E. C.
- 29:21Speaker 1: T Okay, I appreciate you. She's the mother of Black music.
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