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Another Trump Indicment: Sen Ted Cruz Joins Me to Discuss plus The Cover Up is In For the Biden Crime Family · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk about the Donald Trump indictment.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously the news changed late in the afternoon when
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  Speaker 1: new indictments came down from Jack Smith.
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  Speaker 2: What does this actually mean?
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  Speaker 1: I set down with Center Ted Cruz for our podcast
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  Speaker 1: that we do Verdict, and I want you to hear
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say about these indictments, the timing
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  Speaker 1: of it, and what it means.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go through a quick timeline for you. June the seventh,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI released documents to Congress alleging that the Bidens
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  Speaker 1: took a ten million dollar bribe from Barisma. What happened
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  Speaker 1: the very next day, June eighth, Jack Smith indicted Trump
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  Speaker 1: in the Marlago document case. Fast forward to July the
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixth, Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects this
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  Speaker 1: sweetheart plea deal for the judge said uh uh, after
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  Speaker 1: it was revealed that the Biden Department of Justice tried
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  Speaker 1: to give Hunter Biden blanket immunity from all future prosecutions.
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  Speaker 1: The very next day, after that sweetheart deal fell apart,
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  Speaker 1: on July the twenty seventh, Jack Smith added more charges
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  Speaker 1: for Trump in the Marlago case. Move just a few
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  Speaker 1: days later, to July the thirty first, Hunter Biden's former
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  Speaker 1: business partner testifies to Congress Devin Archer that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: was on over twenty calls with his son's business partners
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  Speaker 1: and that Barism executives pressured them to fire the prosecutor.
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  Speaker 1: What happened the very next day? Jack Smith indicts Trump
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  Speaker 1: again for more charges related to January the sixth.
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  Speaker 2: Senator? Is there a coincidence with a day after day
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  Speaker 2: timeline I just gave you? Or is this possible retribution
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  Speaker 2: for how dare you challenge us?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 4: Is it is not subtle and it's not complicated. This
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  Speaker 4: is straight out election interference by the Biden Department of Justice.
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  Speaker 4: We have talked at great length about how incredibly politicized
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  Speaker 4: the Department of Justice is. You're right the timing. Every
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  Speaker 4: time there's a bad development on evidence of corruption or
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  Speaker 4: criminal misconduct by Hunter Biden were, in particular Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 4: the next day you see the Department of Justice try
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  Speaker 4: to change the narrative, try to break news. I am
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  Speaker 4: not surprised at all that this indictment came down yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that?
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  Speaker 4: Because they desperately wanted to drive off of the news
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  Speaker 4: Devin Archer's testimony that was very bad for Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 4: and the best way to do it is to count
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  Speaker 4: on the useful idiots in the media who will happily
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  Speaker 4: echo their latest charges against Donald Trump. We are looking
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  Speaker 4: right now at three different indictments of Donald Trump, one
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  Speaker 4: state and two federal, and in all likelihood we'll see
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  Speaker 4: a fourth indictment of Donald Trump in Atlanta from another
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  Speaker 4: state prosecutor. This one was supposed to be the big,
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  Speaker 4: big Enchilada. This is the one that Democrats and the
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  Speaker 4: corporate media have been salivating for. This was finally gonna
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  Speaker 4: get him. They are kept in a have and he
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  Speaker 4: is there, Moby Dick, and they want to get Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And I gotta say, I sat down and read this
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  Speaker 4: indictment and my biggest sentim was that it was thoroughly underwhelming.
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  Speaker 4: There's very little there. There's very little new in this
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  Speaker 4: indictment that you couldn't get reading the pages of the
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  Speaker 4: Washington Post in the days after the twenty twenty election
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  Speaker 4: leading up to January sixth, almost all of this has
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  Speaker 4: been covered in the newspapers. And essentially, what this indictment
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  Speaker 4: does is take all the facts, and in particular, they really,
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  Speaker 4: really really don't like that Donald Trump alleged that there
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  Speaker 4: was voter fraud in the twenty twenty election and that
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  Speaker 4: it changed the outcome. Now I get that they don't
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  Speaker 4: like that, but not liking it is not the same
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  Speaker 4: as saying Trump saying that over and over and over
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  Speaker 4: again on television, on Twitter, on any mountaintop from which
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  Speaker 4: you could say it is somehow criminal conduct. And I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, looking at this, I was surprised, after all
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  Speaker 4: this investigation, after millions of dollars, after prosecutors with subpoena power,
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  Speaker 4: putting people at risk of going to jail, I was
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  Speaker 4: surprised that there wasn't a smoking gun in here. There
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  Speaker 4: wasn't something that frankly breaks news. At this point, the
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  Speaker 4: only news is Aha, they indicted him, and then they
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  Speaker 4: get to repeat everything they said for the last two years.
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  Speaker 4: This is a political indictment brought by a political prosecutor,
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  Speaker 4: working for a political attorney general, working for a political
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  Speaker 4: president who does not want to risk losing to Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: In November of twenty twenty four, and what Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 4: what Merrick Garland, what Jack Smith? What all the apparatics.
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  Speaker 4: The Biden Justice Department want is they want number one.
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  Speaker 4: They want Trump to win the Republican nomination. And they've
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  Speaker 4: now figured out every time they indict Trump, his numbers
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  Speaker 4: go up in the primary. That makes them really happy.
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  Speaker 4: They want Trump to be the nominee. And the number two.
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  Speaker 4: Their nirvana is to have multiple criminal trials against Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 4: all proceeding ideally in September and October of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 4: And they believe they'll throw so much mud on the
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  Speaker 4: wall that Trump will be unelectable. That's their political objective.
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  Speaker 4: I understand why they have that political objective, but it's
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  Speaker 4: not the rule of law. It's not what the Department
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  Speaker 4: of Justice is supposed to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: My question for you and for so many Americans right
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  Speaker 1: now is how did we get to a point where
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  Speaker 1: this could even happen? And how is it possible that
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  Speaker 1: there can be this clear in a since transparency on
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  Speaker 1: the weaponization of the Department of jim where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: every single time there's bad news for the Biden crime family,
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  Speaker 1: immediately we indict Donald Trump, who is hands down the
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  Speaker 1: front runner now for the GOP nomination. Is this not
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  Speaker 1: political interference, the worst we've ever seen in American modern
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  Speaker 1: political history. And is there anyone that can stop them
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  Speaker 1: from doing this?
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  Speaker 2: It is almost at this point mind boggling.
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  Speaker 1: Where we are as a country in the United States
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  Speaker 1: of American in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, we've entered Banana Republic territory. In over two
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  Speaker 4: centuries of our nation's history, no president of the United
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  Speaker 4: States has ever been indicted. We now have a former
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  Speaker 4: president who, as you knowed, is the leading opposition candidate
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  Speaker 4: to be the next president, who's been indicted not once,
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  Speaker 4: not twice, but three times, and in all likelihood it
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  Speaker 4: will be four times. That is, we're almost numb to
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  Speaker 4: how unprecedented that is. If you look at this latest indictment,
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  Speaker 4: the circumstances of it are highly problematic. This indictment has
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  Speaker 4: been brought in DC. The case was assigned to a
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  Speaker 4: federal District judge, a judge named Tanya Chutkin. Judge Chutkin
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  Speaker 4: was appointed to the DC District Court by Barack Obama,
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  Speaker 4: and she has a reputation for being far left, even
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  Speaker 4: by DC District Court standards. Judge Chuckkin, for example, has
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  Speaker 4: set aside numerous federal death penalty cases. And she is
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  Speaker 4: the only federal judge in Washington, d c. Who is
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  Speaker 4: sentenced January sixth defendants to sentences longer than the government requested.
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  Speaker 4: So in terms of the judge, we can anticipate a
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  Speaker 4: judge who is going to be relentlessly hostile to Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 4: who is going to bend over backwards for the Biden DOJ,
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  Speaker 4: and who was going to make ruling after ruling after
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  Speaker 4: ruling against Trump. She wants this to go to trial.
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  Speaker 4: Not to be clear, she doesn't want this to go
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  Speaker 4: to trial now. She didn't want to go to trial
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  Speaker 4: in a week. She didn't want to go trial in
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  Speaker 4: a month. DOJ wants Trump to get the nomination so
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  Speaker 4: this trial can't happen too quickly. They want it to
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  Speaker 4: happen after he's nominated, but before the general election. And
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  Speaker 4: I will tell you, if it goes to trial, you
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  Speaker 4: will have a jury that is drawn from the District
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  Speaker 4: of Columbia. The District of Columbia is the jurisdiction in
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  Speaker 4: the United States that is the most democrat of any
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  Speaker 4: jurisdiction in the country. In terms of a district or
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  Speaker 4: a state, over ninety percent of the voters in DC
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  Speaker 4: vote Democrat, voted for Joe Biden, voted for Hillary Clinton,
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  Speaker 4: consistently vote Democrat. They are not Donald Trump's supporters. The
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  Speaker 4: likelihood that a DC jury will vote to convict Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump is exceptionally high, and the facts don't matter, the
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  Speaker 4: laws don't matter. They hate him. That's a big part
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  Speaker 4: of the reason why the Biden DOJ wants to bring
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  Speaker 4: this case in DC, which means with a far left
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  Speaker 4: judge and a far left jury, there is a very
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  Speaker 4: real possibility that Donald Trump ends up being convicted. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I think on appeal that conviction will not stand, but
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  Speaker 4: it might stand in the d C circuit. An appeal
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  Speaker 4: would go to the DC circuit. It would depend what
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  Speaker 4: panel you get on the DC circuit whether a conviction
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  Speaker 4: would stand. I think the ultimate outcome of any Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump conviction on this indictment would be a reversal in
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  Speaker 4: all likelihood at the US Supreme Court. I would note
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  Speaker 4: the last time Jack Smith played this game, the last
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  Speaker 4: time Jack Smith indicted a serious credit Republican presidential candidate,
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  Speaker 4: and pause for a second. Merrick Garland and DOJ found
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  Speaker 4: I think the only guy on the planet, as far
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  Speaker 4: as I'm I know who was previously indicted, a leading
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  Speaker 4: candidate for president that was a Republican. They brought him
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  Speaker 4: back and said, hey, you did that so well, would
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  Speaker 4: you do it again.
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  Speaker 2: The last time.
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  Speaker 4: Jack Smith did that was Bob McDonald, then the governor
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  Speaker 4: of Virginia. He got a conviction and it went all
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  Speaker 4: the way to the Supreme Court and it was unanimously reversed.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, if that happens in this case,
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  Speaker 4: that'll be two three years from now, that'll be after
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  Speaker 4: the election. That will be with Bob McDonald. Jack Smith
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  Speaker 4: had done his job. The job was not to put
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  Speaker 4: him in jail. The job was to hurt him politically,
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  Speaker 4: to take him out, to destroy his career, and he
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  Speaker 4: succeeded in doing that, even though it was lawless. And
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  Speaker 4: what is dangerous about this particular indictment with a judge
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  Speaker 4: and a jury that are likely to be stacked against
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump and in fact loathe Donald Trump, that is
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  Speaker 4: a very dangerous scenario. That is I think exceptionally bad
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  Speaker 4: a for the rule of law, but b for democracy.
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  Speaker 4: Whether you want Donald Trump to be the next president
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  Speaker 4: or not, that question should not be answered by a
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  Speaker 4: corrupt Department of Justice weaponizing the legal system.
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  Speaker 2: The cover up is in.
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  Speaker 1: But now it's part two for the Biden crime family,
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  Speaker 1: with a cover up, this time coming from the media.
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  Speaker 1: CNN's Dana Bash covering now it's like she's almost on
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  Speaker 1: the payroll of the White House for Joe and Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Biden's corruption, explaining away the millions and millions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: from our adversaries, the fact that he was selling access
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  Speaker 1: to the White House by saying, well, look, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of relationships that operate in a gray area intentionally,
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  Speaker 1: and this is just politics, so you really shouldn't be upset.
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  Speaker 5: The question that Anderson about the fact that doesn't it
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  Speaker 5: appear shady? Does that mean that the president was involved
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  Speaker 5: in Hunter Biden's business dealings. No, but we all understand Washington,
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  Speaker 5: and we all understand that a lot of these relationships
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  Speaker 5: operate in the gray areas intentionally, especially when you have
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  Speaker 5: somebody who is either related to a a famous person
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  Speaker 5: or a powerful person, or used to work for a
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  Speaker 5: powerful person. You want your clients to know that you
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  Speaker 5: can get them on the phone.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I mean wow, So there it is. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Look, especially when you have somebody who's either related to
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  Speaker 1: a famous person or a powerful person. You want your
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  Speaker 1: clients to know that you can get them on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: So she's admitting that what they were selling was access
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  Speaker 1: to Joe Biden, that this was influence pedaling, selling access
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  Speaker 1: to the United States of America. This com on top
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  Speaker 1: of a new bombshell accusation. The Hunter Biden whistle blower,
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  Speaker 1: Gary Shapley, is now claiming that the FBI in fact
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  Speaker 1: spooked a coroborating a corroborating witness. Take a listen to
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say. Again, this is ow Devin
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  Speaker 1: Archers now confirmed that President Biden lied. Okay, number one
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  Speaker 1: and two. Now you have this new whistleblower who is
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  Speaker 1: claiming the FBI spooked some of the coroberating witnesses.
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  Speaker 7: You and Joseph Ziegler came out as whistleblowers, uh, and
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  Speaker 7: testify before that House committee. Are there others who have
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  Speaker 7: you have to come out who are willing?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think there's lots of people with information that
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  Speaker 8: there can shine light on this. And House Waves and
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  Speaker 8: Means Committee has requested you know those names, We provided
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  Speaker 8: those names, and we the government and the people in
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  Speaker 8: United States demand that the government and look gets to
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  Speaker 8: the bottom of this. They need to talked all these people.
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  Speaker 8: They can't just allow DOJ to not give access to people.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, for example, the FBI ssay that testified and
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  Speaker 8: for the House Ways and Means Committee, he was he
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  Speaker 8: was given a letter the Sunday before from DJ basically
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  Speaker 8: telling him not to talk. And you know, I know
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  Speaker 8: that he could have confirmed additional material facts on this investigation.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, he did confirm that the the FBI
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  Speaker 8: headquarters in notifying the Transition team and Secret Service, but
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  Speaker 8: really that was the only thing that he was able
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  Speaker 8: to speak about. So there are there are so many
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  Speaker 8: other people, and we've provided that the House Ways and
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  Speaker 8: Means Committee, and we just hope that they foul follow
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  Speaker 8: the leads and talk to the people they need to
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  Speaker 8: talk to to get to the bottom of it, because
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  Speaker 8: our tax system and the American people deserve it.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Gary, thank you for your time. They may want
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  Speaker 7: to stay anonymous. I'm sure you took a risk coming out,
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  Speaker 7: and so did Joseph Ziegler as well.
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  Speaker 1: So now you have the FB telling witnesses to shut up.
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  Speaker 1: This all happening while now we're waiting for another Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump indictment. We are hearing now that there's another indictment coming.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jack Smith's team is now admitting that's the
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  Speaker 1: guy going after Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: The special prosecutor.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Smith, admitting that they incorrectly were telling that the
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  Speaker 1: courts and the Court DOJ had turned over all of
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  Speaker 1: the materials.
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  Speaker 2: Oops. Yeah, no, it's not an oops. That's on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Special counsel Jack Smith's team admitted in a federal court
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  Speaker 1: filing in Miami this week that the government had not
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  Speaker 1: in fact given all of its evidence to the court
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  Speaker 1: for President Donald Trump's defense team to review.
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  Speaker 2: The same thing Trump, by the way, is allegedly they
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  Speaker 2: allege has done to them.
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  Speaker 1: Smith has charged Trump with forty counts of the so
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  Speaker 1: called Documents case. Right among them is the accusation that
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  Speaker 1: Trump caused his lawyers to tell the government that they
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  Speaker 1: had handed over all the documents the government wanted, when
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  Speaker 1: in fact they had not. Now that same special counsel
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  Speaker 1: Jack Smith his team they're admitting in a federal court
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  Speaker 1: filing in Miami this week that the government had not
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  Speaker 1: in fact given all of its evidence to the court
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  Speaker 1: for President Donald Trump's defense team to review. So, in
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  Speaker 1: other words, we can do it, but we'll throw you
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  Speaker 1: in jail if you do it, or we accuse you
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  Speaker 1: of doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The indictment against Trump also ledges that he conspired with
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  Speaker 1: a staff to move boxes of documents and to attempt
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  Speaker 1: to lead some video footage without telling his attorneys, so
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  Speaker 1: that the final delivery of documents and video to the
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  Speaker 1: government was quote incomplete. But in this ironic twist, Smith's
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  Speaker 1: team had to admit to the court in this July
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  Speaker 1: thirty first filing that it had not in fact uploaded
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  Speaker 1: all of the video footage that had taken from Trump's
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  Speaker 1: residence in Marlago, Florida, to a platform established by the
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  Speaker 1: court for the defense team to review. Yeah, so, whoops,
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  Speaker 1: my bad. But hey, when you're the government, you can
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  Speaker 1: make it up as you go. Apparently you can get
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  Speaker 1: away with this, and the DOJ is admitting it right,
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  Speaker 1: They're admitting it did not produce all of the Marlago
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  Speaker 1: camera footage to the Defense Council and the first batches
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  Speaker 1: of discovery despite making that claim in court last month.
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  Speaker 1: So they straight up lied about this. This security video story,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is not going to get any blaring headlines.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we all know why, because the government
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  Speaker 1: and the media are working together one and as the
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  Speaker 1: same right now when it comes to trying to screw
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  Speaker 1: anybody they don't like. Quote the government's representation at the
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  Speaker 1: July eighteenth hearing that all surveillance footage the government had
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  Speaker 1: obtained pre indictment have been produced was therefore incorrect. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the Julia Edstein, a Smith assistant, told the court
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  Speaker 1: in the document. In the criminal trials, the defense is
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  Speaker 1: entitled to see all of the evidence that the government
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  Speaker 1: plans introduce at trial. Under a rule called the Brady Rule.
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  Speaker 1: The prosecution has a special duty to disclose anything to
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  Speaker 1: the defense that might prove to be exculpatory. Now, Trump
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  Speaker 1: maintains that the Presidential Records Act entitles him to decide
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  Speaker 1: which records are his and which belonged to the National Archives.
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  Speaker 1: He also denies trying to hide any materials, including classified
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  Speaker 1: our national security documents from the government quote unquote, so
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  Speaker 1: again Jack Smith lying to the Trump team and then
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  Speaker 1: correcting it, saying, ooh, sorry, are bad. We didn't mean to.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of happens this way, right now. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go back also to Devon Archer. Devin Archer, I think
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  Speaker 1: has come out of this testimony before Congress, probably giving
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  Speaker 1: the most credible witness testimony on Hunter Biden's business dealings,
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  Speaker 1: because it was his best friend.
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  Speaker 2: He worked with him, and we know this.
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  Speaker 1: Many are now saying that Devin was not only guy
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  Speaker 1: that looked very credible, but he seemed to be telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth and also at the same time being cautious
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  Speaker 1: at what he said.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't agree.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with that more, by the way, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's looking over his shoulder at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: But he was involved, he was with him, He knew
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  Speaker 1: what was going on. The amount of cash that he
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  Speaker 1: was making was directly tied to the Biden selling access,
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  Speaker 1: which is what he said, is that they were buying
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  Speaker 1: access to the Biden crime family. Now this comes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, as the Democrats narrative on Joe's Biden's involvement
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  Speaker 1: has reached a new point, I would argue of absurdity.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Schweizer, the.
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  Speaker 1: President of the Government Accountability Institute, said on Monday that
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats explanation for President Joe Biden's level of involvement
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  Speaker 1: in his son Hunter's international business deals has reached a
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  Speaker 1: point of just absurdity.
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  Speaker 2: He said this on Newsmax.
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  Speaker 1: Schweitzer had to say about Hunter Biden. He said this
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  Speaker 1: on Newsmax and with Eric Bowling, and I want you
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  Speaker 1: to hear how he described what all is happening right now.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, Peter Schweitzer, Peter, let's get into this a little
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  Speaker 3: bit deeper here. Hunter Biden flew to China with Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was on Air Force too, if I'm
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  Speaker 3: not mistaken, and we're now supposed to believe that there
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  Speaker 3: was never any business discuss between Joe and Hunt.
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  Speaker 5: Talk.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hunter, you're you're going to China? What are you
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  Speaker 3: doing here? They're just asking us to make these insane
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  Speaker 3: leafs that just defy gravity, so to speak.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you're sat right, Eric. And look what
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  Speaker 6: I would say to Congressman Goldman who said they were
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  Speaker 6: discussing the weather. If that's the case, why has Joe
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  Speaker 6: Biden lied about it? Why wouldn't he just say, oh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, my son or my son called me and
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  Speaker 6: his business associates were there, but it was an interesting
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  Speaker 6: conversation because they know how it looks and they know
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  Speaker 6: the reality of what was discussed. And let's underline this, Eric,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Devin Archer was really the business mastermind behind
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  Speaker 6: this enterprise. He's the one that had the business acumen.
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Biden was the one that had the right name
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  Speaker 6: and had the right father. We're going to hear later
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  Speaker 6: testimony before this committee from Eric Schwerin, who's the money
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  Speaker 6: guy in this operation. And I think it's going to
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  Speaker 6: be very interesting to see what Eric Schwern tells us
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  Speaker 6: as well.
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  Speaker 9: What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I asked Marjorie Taylor Green the same question.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're in Ukraine, you're in China, You're I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, in Los Angeles with a member of Barisma
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  Speaker 3: or one of the countries in question, and your business
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  Speaker 3: associate Hunter presses a number and gets the second most
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  Speaker 3: powerful person on the planet. They don't need to be
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  Speaker 3: talking about anything other than the weather. You get the point, right,
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  Speaker 3: that's what you're going to pay for, Peter.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, it's the same thing
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  Speaker 6: with a political campaign. Candidates show up, they shake some hands,
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  Speaker 6: and then somebody from the staff shakes people down for
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  Speaker 6: campaign donations. It's the same operation here, and you know, look,
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  Speaker 6: the retreat from the Democrats and the Biden campaign has
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  Speaker 6: reached a point of absurdity. In twenty eighteen, where we
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  Speaker 6: first reported on this that Biden said that we're no
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  Speaker 6: foreign deals. Then when the deals came out, they said, okay, well,
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  Speaker 6: but Hunter made no money. Then it was clear that
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  Speaker 6: Hunter made money, and they shifted it to Joe Biden
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  Speaker 6: did not have any knowledge, didn't speak to any of
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  Speaker 6: the business parts. We now know that's not true. I
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  Speaker 6: think the next shoot to drop is that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 6: himself actually received money from these business deals done through
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  Speaker 6: a series of LLCs. I think this is unsustainable. There
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  Speaker 6: was a Harvard Harris Pole, hardly a conservative outlet, that
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  Speaker 6: came out three or four weeks ago said fifty eight
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  Speaker 6: percent of the American people, including a majority of strong
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  Speaker 6: majority of independence, believe that Joe Biden participated in illegal
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  Speaker 6: business activity involving his family while president. Those numbers are
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  Speaker 6: only going to go up, so the Democrats in Washington
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  Speaker 6: can argue what they want. The American people are finally
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  Speaker 6: starting to see what the bidens were actually up to
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  Speaker 6: and it's not good for the bidens.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Peter, depending who you listen to, anywhere between
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  Speaker 3: fifteen and thirty maybe upwards of forty million dollars came
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  Speaker 3: from foreign governments and companies into one of the bidens
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  Speaker 3: into this. As you point out the shell game of
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  Speaker 3: shell companies, the network of shell companies, is there any
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  Speaker 3: and one of them? Barismo was in energy, and there's
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  Speaker 3: a Chinese energy company. There's also a Chinese investment company.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any legiti reason these people and companies and
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  Speaker 3: countries would pay Hunter Biden or Joe whomever the sums
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  Speaker 3: of money for what? What are the what could possibly
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  Speaker 3: be the right reasons?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Eric, I mean the bottom line is you look
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  Speaker 6: at the emails. Henry Jao sends five million to Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 6: A six million comes from Chairman Ye, the head of
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  Speaker 6: this Chinese energy company. Every single instance, there's never ever
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  Speaker 6: ever a discussion of the services or products that Hunter
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  Speaker 6: Biden's going to provide. It's all quote unquote capital investment.
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Biden in one case called it good faith seed money.
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  Speaker 6: That good face seed money doesn't go into any business,
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  Speaker 6: It goes into Biden family LLC's So it's obvious what
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  Speaker 6: is going on here and what the Democrats are arguing
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  Speaker 6: is is unsustainable. So they're going to have to shift
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  Speaker 6: gears with some of their defense because there's no legitimate
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  Speaker 6: explanation for why this money found its way into the bidens.
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  Speaker 6: If they were selling a product. That product was Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 6: That's the only thing they were selling.
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  Speaker 3: Really good having you on, Peter Schwitzcha, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think that was the only thing they were selling.
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  Speaker 1: I love Peter Schweitzer's analysis of this and reminding you
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  Speaker 1: of everything they've gone through. He said, you know you're Ukraine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're in Ukraine, you're doing business in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Check.
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  Speaker 1: Then you're in China, Yeah, you're doing that. Then you
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  Speaker 1: say no, I'm not doing that. Then you are. Then
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  Speaker 1: you're with a member of Brisma. Then you're getting people fired.
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  Speaker 1: Then you're saying you didn't make any money from this.
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  Speaker 1: Then you had to admit you were making money from this.
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  Speaker 1: You go through the list here of all the lies here,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have a president. Don't forget, we have
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  Speaker 1: a president still, a president of the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: And what is he said over and over again, he
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  Speaker 1: has said, I have not made any money off of this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes he has. He has absolutely made money off of this.
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  Speaker 1: We know they were covering each other's bills. We know
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  Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden was paying for improvements in his daddy's house.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Jordan also said this about Hunter Biden a moment
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  Speaker 1: ago when he was talking run Fox Business.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen, Jim Jordan.
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  Speaker 10: There may be some announcements imminent or maybe not, but
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  Speaker 10: let's talk just for a moment about to hear you
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  Speaker 10: presided over the deposition yesterday. I think the general point
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  Speaker 10: here is that Joe, we now know that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 10: has been lying about knowing his son's business activities. He
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  Speaker 10: lied during the twenty twenty debates, and he continues to
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  Speaker 10: lie since then. Just tell us, if you would, sir,
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  Speaker 10: what stands out in your mind from this deposition. What
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  Speaker 10: did you take away that was you know, particularly interesting?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, mister Archer said that Hunter Biden, the value
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  Speaker 9: he brought to the business operation they were involved in
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  Speaker 9: was the Biden brand. The Biden brand being Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 9: This this powerful political figure in DC. And I think
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  Speaker 9: you saw that manifest in this meeting that took place
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  Speaker 9: that I thought really stood out in yesterday's deposition or
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  Speaker 9: interview was this meeting that took place December fourth, twenty
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  Speaker 9: fifteen in Dubai where Hunter Biden and Devon Archer are
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  Speaker 9: meeting with the executives from Barisma, the guys who run Burisa,
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  Speaker 9: mister Zoldchevsky. They're meeting with them. And at this meeting
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  Speaker 9: they say the Barisman people say, we're under a lot
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  Speaker 9: of pressure. We need the United States government to help
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  Speaker 9: us out. And of course, five days after this meeting,
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  Speaker 9: December ninth, twenty fifteen, Joe Biden goes to Ukraine and
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  Speaker 9: starts attacking the prosecutor. Now, also at that meeting on
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  Speaker 9: December fourth in Dubai, they have a phone call with
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  Speaker 9: d C. Now, I don't know who it was. Mister
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  Speaker 9: Archer said he didn't know. He wasn't right there when
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  Speaker 9: the phone call happened.
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  Speaker 4: He was at a different part.
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  Speaker 9: Of the hotel when that happened, but he knows that
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  Speaker 9: there was a call that took place to call to
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  Speaker 9: d C. Who they talked to, I don't know. But again,
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  Speaker 9: five days after this, Joe Biden takes action, which is
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  Speaker 9: the start of this process that now has become somewhat
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  Speaker 9: well known, where Joe Biden a few months later says,
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  Speaker 9: where he relates where he gives this talk to the
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  Speaker 9: folks in Ukraine, says, if you don't fire a Chokun
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  Speaker 9: the prosecutor, you're not getting the money. I mean, ironically,
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  Speaker 9: the same thing they went after President Trump for in
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  Speaker 9: the impeacement.
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  Speaker 10: But Joe Biden says he did it.
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  Speaker 9: That all starts in play on this December ninth speech
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  Speaker 9: he gives there again five days after this conversation takes place.
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  Speaker 9: So that to me was sort of the big takeaway
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  Speaker 9: from yesterday's interview.
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  Speaker 1: You know you big takeaway. Yeah, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: Devin Archer saying, look, it's very clear Hunter Biden used
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden to close the deals to sell the Biden brand.
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  Speaker 1: The value he brought to the business operation they were
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