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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:04Welcome
- 0:04back,
- 0:04my
- 0:05friends,
- 0:05to
- 0:05another
- 0:05episode
- 0:06of
- 0:06Pearls
- 0:07and
- 0:07Prep.
- 0:07We
- 0:08have
- 0:08a
- 0:08doozy
- 0:09for
- 0:09you
- 0:10today.
- 0:10We
- 0:10are
- 0:11going
- 0:11to
- 0:11talk
- 0:11about
- 0:12dystonias,
- 0:13that
- 0:14term
- 0:14that
- 0:14you're
- 0:15asking
- 0:15yourself,
- 0:15what
- 0:16do
- 0:16I
- 0:16do
- 0:16if
- 0:16I
- 0:17see
- 0:17a
- 0:17dystonia
- 0:18in
- 0:19the
- 0:19outpatient
- 0:19space?
- 0:20What
- 0:20is
- 0:20dystonia?
- 0:21How
- 0:21do
- 0:21I
- 0:21manage
- 0:22it?
- 0:22What
- 0:22does
- 0:22it
- 0:23mean?
- 0:23We're
- 0:23going
- 0:23to
- 0:23demystify
- 0:24that
- 0:24today
- 0:25with
- 0:25a
- 0:25mock
- 0:25patient
- 0:26patient
- 0:26case
- 0:26named
- 0:27Mario.
- 0:28Mario
- 0:29was
- 0:30started
- 0:30on
- 0:30risperidol
- 0:32within
- 0:32the
- 0:32last
- 0:33week.
- 0:33He's
- 0:33up
- 0:34to
- 0:34about
- 0:341.5mg
- 0:35bid
- 0:36now
- 0:37for
- 0:37a
- 0:37first
- 0:37episode
- 0:38psychosis.
- 0:40He's
- 0:40coming
- 0:40to
- 0:40you
- 0:41saying,
- 0:41my
- 0:42neck
- 0:42is
- 0:42killing
- 0:42me.
- 0:43It's
- 0:43just
- 0:43twisting
- 0:43on
- 0:44its
- 0:44own
- 0:44and
- 0:44it
- 0:44won't
- 0:45relax.
- 0:45It
- 0:45hurts
- 0:46and
- 0:46it
- 0:46feels
- 0:47stuck.
- 0:48His
- 0:48neck
- 0:49is
- 0:49rotated
- 0:49to
- 0:49the
- 0:50right
- 0:50a
- 0:50little
- 0:50bit.
- 0:51He's
- 0:51got
- 0:51some
- 0:51tight
- 0:52muscle
- 0:53contractions.
- 0:53He
- 0:54doesn't
- 0:54have
- 0:54a
- 0:54fever.
- 0:54He's
- 0:55not
- 0:55confused.
- 0:55His
- 0:55vital
- 0:56signs
- 0:56are
- 0:56otherwise
- 0:57stable.
- 0:57He's
- 0:57mentally
- 0:57alert
- 0:58and
- 0:58anxious,
- 0:59asking
- 0:59if
- 0:59he's
- 0:59paralyzed.
- 1:00He
- 1:00has
- 1:00no
- 1:01trouble
- 1:01swallowing
- 1:01or
- 1:02breathing.
- 1:02You
- 1:03recognize
- 1:03this
- 1:03as
- 1:04an
- 1:04acute
- 1:05dystonia
- 1:05from
- 1:06risperidone
- 1:07starting
- 1:07recently.
- 1:07And
- 1:08if
- 1:08you're
- 1:08in
- 1:08the
- 1:08clinic
- 1:09and
- 1:09you
- 1:09have
- 1:09the
- 1:09tools
- 1:10to
- 1:10do
- 1:10this,
- 1:11intramuscular
- 1:12benztropine
- 1:13would
- 1:13be
- 1:14the
- 1:14way
- 1:14to
- 1:14do
- 1:14this.
- 1:15That
- 1:15would
- 1:15probably
- 1:16be
- 1:16about
- 1:162
- 1:16milligrams
- 1:17in
- 1:17the
- 1:17clinic.
- 1:17Now,
- 1:18we're
- 1:18going
- 1:18to
- 1:18go
- 1:18into
- 1:18more
- 1:19of
- 1:19this
- 1:19a
- 1:19little
- 1:19bit
- 1:20later.
- 1:20I
- 1:20don't
- 1:21want
- 1:21you
- 1:21to
- 1:21focus
- 1:21so
- 1:22much
- 1:22on
- 1:23the
- 1:24specifics
- 1:24of
- 1:24Mario
- 1:25today.
- 1:25I
- 1:25want
- 1:26you
- 1:26to
- 1:26conceptualize
- 1:27this
- 1:27more
- 1:27broadly
- 1:28about
- 1:29what's
- 1:29happening,
- 1:29why
- 1:30it's
- 1:30happening,
- 1:31how
- 1:31often
- 1:31does
- 1:32this
- 1:32happen?
- 1:33That's
- 1:33really
- 1:34what
- 1:34we
- 1:34want
- 1:34to
- 1:35wrap
- 1:35our
- 1:35heads
- 1:36around
- 1:36today
- 1:36before
- 1:37we
- 1:37get
- 1:37into
- 1:38the
- 1:38nitty
- 1:38gritty
- 1:39of
- 1:39how
- 1:39to
- 1:40treat
- 1:40this.
- 1:40I
- 1:40know
- 1:40we
- 1:40just
- 1:41mentioned
- 1:41the
- 1:41IM
- 1:42benztrapine,
- 1:43but
- 1:44I
- 1:44want
- 1:44to
- 1:44get
- 1:44into
- 1:45an
- 1:45overarching
- 1:47definition
- 1:47of
- 1:47dystonia
- 1:48and
- 1:48what
- 1:49this
- 1:49is.
- 1:49So,
- 1:49dystonia
- 1:50is
- 1:50a
- 1:50neurological
- 1:51movement
- 1:51disorder
- 1:52where
- 1:52muscles
- 1:53contract
- 1:53involuntarily,
- 1:54causing
- 1:54twisting,
- 1:55repetitive
- 1:55movements
- 1:56or
- 1:56abnormal
- 1:57postures.
- 1:58Movements
- 1:58are
- 1:58often
- 1:59sustained
- 2:00or
- 2:00jerky.
- 2:00They
- 2:01can
- 2:01affect
- 2:01any
- 2:01body
- 2:02part,
- 2:02commonly
- 2:02the
- 2:03neck,
- 2:03the
- 2:03eyes,
- 2:03the
- 2:03shoulders,
- 2:04the
- 2:04jaw,
- 2:04or
- 2:05the
- 2:05limbs.
- 2:05It
- 2:06worsens
- 2:06with
- 2:06voluntary
- 2:07movement
- 2:07and
- 2:08with
- 2:08stress.
- 2:08You
- 2:09try
- 2:09to
- 2:09write
- 2:09with
- 2:09your
- 2:09hand
- 2:10and
- 2:10instead
- 2:10your
- 2:10wrist
- 2:11twists
- 2:11or
- 2:12your
- 2:12shoulder
- 2:12lifts
- 2:13without
- 2:13you
- 2:13really
- 2:13meaning
- 2:14to.
- 2:14Well,
- 2:14dystonia
- 2:15has
- 2:15Greek
- 2:16origins
- 2:16in
- 2:16its
- 2:17word
- 2:17dys,
- 2:17meaning
- 2:18bad
- 2:18or
- 2:18abnormal,
- 2:19and
- 2:19tonos,
- 2:20meaning
- 2:20tension
- 2:20or
- 2:20muscle
- 2:21tone.
- 2:21So
- 2:21dystonia
- 2:22literally
- 2:22means
- 2:23abnormal
- 2:24muscle
- 2:24tone.
- 2:25We're
- 2:25talking
- 2:25about
- 2:26sustained,
- 2:26involuntary
- 2:27muscle
- 2:28contractions
- 2:29causing
- 2:29twisting,
- 2:29abnormal
- 2:30postures
- 2:30or
- 2:31repetitive
- 2:31movements.
- 2:32Some
- 2:32Dystonias
- 2:33are
- 2:34medical
- 2:34emergencies.
- 2:35If
- 2:35the
- 2:36tongue,
- 2:36the
- 2:36pharynx
- 2:37or
- 2:37larynx
- 2:37are
- 2:37involved,
- 2:38Right.
- 2:38And
- 2:38we're
- 2:38hearing
- 2:39stridor
- 2:39or
- 2:39choking
- 2:40or
- 2:40airway
- 2:40obstruction,
- 2:41those
- 2:41are
- 2:41true
- 2:42medical
- 2:42emergencies.
- 2:43Patients
- 2:43need
- 2:44to
- 2:44go
- 2:44to
- 2:44the
- 2:44ER
- 2:44immediately
- 2:45for
- 2:45airway
- 2:46support.
- 2:47We're
- 2:47not
- 2:47going
- 2:47to
- 2:47focus
- 2:47too
- 2:48much
- 2:48on
- 2:48that
- 2:48today,
- 2:50but
- 2:51we
- 2:51are
- 2:51going
- 2:52to
- 2:52focus
- 2:52on
- 2:52a
- 2:52dystonia
- 2:53that
- 2:53lands
- 2:53in
- 2:54your
- 2:54office.
- 2:54And
- 2:54it
- 2:55is
- 2:56very
- 2:56uncomfortable,
- 2:57but
- 2:57not
- 2:57necessarily
- 2:58life
- 2:58threatening.
- 2:59You
- 2:59always
- 2:59have
- 2:59to
- 3:00err
- 3:00on
- 3:00the
- 3:00side
- 3:00of
- 3:00caution,
- 3:01of
- 3:01course.
- 3:01And
- 3:01this
- 3:02one
- 3:02is
- 3:02pretty
- 3:03disturbing
- 3:03because
- 3:03it
- 3:04involves
- 3:04his
- 3:04neck
- 3:04and
- 3:05he
- 3:05can't
- 3:05really
- 3:05move
- 3:06or
- 3:06he
- 3:06feels
- 3:07paralyzed.
- 3:07So
- 3:07this
- 3:08requires
- 3:08immediate
- 3:09intervention.
- 3:10That's
- 3:10why
- 3:10we
- 3:10talk
- 3:10about
- 3:11intramuscular
- 3:1215
- 3:12to
- 3:1230
- 3:13minutes.
- 3:13This
- 3:14will
- 3:14be
- 3:14more
- 3:14or
- 3:15less
- 3:15resolved
- 3:16with
- 3:16the
- 3:16benstropine.
- 3:17Now
- 3:18we
- 3:18want
- 3:18to
- 3:19dig
- 3:19a
- 3:19little
- 3:19deeper
- 3:19here.
- 3:20Remember,
- 3:20with
- 3:21acute
- 3:21dystonias
- 3:22that
- 3:22are
- 3:22medical
- 3:22emergencies,
- 3:23they
- 3:23could
- 3:23look
- 3:23like
- 3:24a
- 3:24laryngospasm,
- 3:25involuntary
- 3:26closure
- 3:26of
- 3:26the
- 3:26vocal
- 3:27cord.
- 3:27Right.
- 3:28An
- 3:28oculogyric
- 3:29crisis
- 3:30where
- 3:30your
- 3:30eyes
- 3:30roll
- 3:31upward
- 3:31for
- 3:31hours.
- 3:31Very
- 3:32distressing,
- 3:32very
- 3:33scary,
- 3:33but
- 3:33it
- 3:33can
- 3:33be
- 3:34resolved
- 3:34very
- 3:35quickly.
- 3:35Again,
- 3:36with
- 3:36IM
- 3:37or
- 3:37IV
- 3:38anticholinergics.
- 3:39The
- 3:39oculogyric
- 3:40crisis
- 3:41can
- 3:41be
- 3:41confused
- 3:41for
- 3:42or
- 3:42misdiagnosed
- 3:42as
- 3:43a
- 3:43seizure
- 3:43too.
- 3:44Just
- 3:44keep
- 3:44that
- 3:44in
- 3:45mind.
- 3:45And
- 3:45then
- 3:45of
- 3:46course,
- 3:46you
- 3:46can
- 3:46have
- 3:46a
- 3:46neck
- 3:47dystonia,
- 3:47tongue,
- 3:48jaw
- 3:48or
- 3:48throat
- 3:48spasms
- 3:49that
- 3:49risks
- 3:50the
- 3:50airway
- 3:50obstruction,
- 3:51difficulty
- 3:52swallowing,
- 3:53aspiration.
- 3:53So
- 3:54these
- 3:54could
- 3:54be
- 3:54very
- 3:55significant
- 3:56medical
- 3:56emergencies.
- 3:57So
- 3:57just
- 3:58remember,
- 3:58when
- 3:58you
- 3:58start
- 3:59somebody
- 3:59on
- 3:59a
- 4:00high
- 4:00potency,
- 4:01first
- 4:01generation
- 4:01antipsychotic
- 4:02or
- 4:03certain
- 4:03second
- 4:03generation
- 4:04antipsychotics,
- 4:05this
- 4:05is
- 4:05potentially
- 4:06on
- 4:06the
- 4:06table.
- 4:07Statistics
- 4:08Show
- 4:08it's
- 4:08about
- 4:092
- 4:09to
- 4:0910%
- 4:10of
- 4:10individuals
- 4:10who
- 4:11may
- 4:11experience
- 4:12these
- 4:12acute
- 4:13dystonias.
- 4:132
- 4:13to
- 4:1410%
- 4:14gives
- 4:14you
- 4:15a
- 4:15rough
- 4:15estimate
- 4:15of
- 4:16what
- 4:16you
- 4:16can
- 4:16expect.
- 4:16Remember
- 4:17the
- 4:17high
- 4:17potency,
- 4:18first
- 4:18generation
- 4:19generation
- 4:19antipsychotics
- 4:20block
- 4:21those
- 4:21D2
- 4:22receptors.
- 4:22They
- 4:23have
- 4:23higher
- 4:23affinity
- 4:24for
- 4:24D2
- 4:24receptors.
- 4:25Their
- 4:25occupancy
- 4:26levels
- 4:26are
- 4:27higher
- 4:27for
- 4:27D2
- 4:28receptors.
- 4:28Think
- 4:29of
- 4:29occupancy
- 4:29of
- 4:30receptors
- 4:30like
- 4:30parking
- 4:31spots.
- 4:31They
- 4:31park
- 4:31in
- 4:32more
- 4:32spots,
- 4:32so
- 4:33their
- 4:33occupancy
- 4:33is
- 4:34higher.
- 4:34Thus
- 4:34they
- 4:35cause
- 4:36potentially
- 4:36high
- 4:36worsening
- 4:37dystonias
- 4:39or
- 4:39extra
- 4:40pyramidal
- 4:40side
- 4:41effects.
- 4:41The
- 4:42higher
- 4:42the
- 4:42occupancy,
- 4:43the
- 4:43higher
- 4:43the
- 4:43affinity.
- 4:44Affinity
- 4:45is
- 4:45more
- 4:45like
- 4:45a
- 4:45magnet.
- 4:46When
- 4:46you
- 4:47prescribe
- 4:47these
- 4:47medications,
- 4:48they
- 4:48have
- 4:49an
- 4:49affinity
- 4:49to
- 4:49the
- 4:49receptor.
- 4:50They're
- 4:50drawn
- 4:50to
- 4:50the
- 4:51receptor
- 4:51more
- 4:51easily.
- 4:52Those
- 4:52first
- 4:52generation
- 4:53antipsychotics
- 4:54have
- 4:54a
- 4:54little
- 4:54bit
- 4:54more
- 4:55affinity,
- 4:56so
- 4:56keep
- 4:57that
- 4:57in
- 4:57mind.
- 4:58But
- 4:58again,
- 4:58you
- 4:59have
- 4:59second
- 4:59generation
- 4:59antipsychotics
- 5:00that
- 5:00also
- 5:00have
- 5:02pretty
- 5:02strong
- 5:03affinities
- 5:03like
- 5:04Risperdal
- 5:04or
- 5:04invega,
- 5:05which
- 5:06is
- 5:06the
- 5:06metabolic
- 5:07offshoot
- 5:07of
- 5:07risperidol.
- 5:08We're
- 5:08going
- 5:08to
- 5:08go
- 5:08into
- 5:09that
- 5:09in
- 5:09more
- 5:09detail
- 5:09later.
- 5:10Dystonia
- 5:11is
- 5:11an
- 5:11abnormal,
- 5:12involuntary
- 5:13twisting
- 5:14or
- 5:15repetitive
- 5:15movement,
- 5:16an
- 5:16abnormal
- 5:16posture.
- 5:17It's
- 5:17a
- 5:17neurological
- 5:18movement
- 5:18disorder.
- 5:19Jerky,
- 5:20sustained
- 5:20movements,
- 5:21and
- 5:21they
- 5:21can
- 5:21affect
- 5:22really
- 5:22any
- 5:22body
- 5:22part.
- 5:23So
- 5:23keep
- 5:23that
- 5:23in
- 5:23mind
- 5:24and
- 5:24especially
- 5:24keep
- 5:25it
- 5:25in
- 5:25mind
- 5:25when
- 5:25we're
- 5:26talking
- 5:26about
- 5:26medical
- 5:27emergencies.
- 5:28Now,
- 5:29dystonia
- 5:29arises
- 5:30from
- 5:30abnormal
- 5:30signaling
- 5:31in
- 5:31the
- 5:31basal
- 5:32ganglia.
- 5:32It's
- 5:32a
- 5:32motor
- 5:33control
- 5:33hub
- 5:33of
- 5:33our
- 5:33brain.
- 5:34Normally,
- 5:34the
- 5:34brain
- 5:35sends
- 5:36a
- 5:36signal
- 5:37saying,
- 5:37move
- 5:37this
- 5:37muscle
- 5:38and
- 5:38suppress
- 5:38that
- 5:39muscle.
- 5:39In
- 5:40dystonia,
- 5:40the
- 5:41inhibitory
- 5:41suppression
- 5:42is
- 5:42broken.
- 5:43Too
- 5:43many
- 5:43muscles
- 5:44fire
- 5:44at
- 5:44once.
- 5:45That's
- 5:45an
- 5:45overflow
- 5:46muscle
- 5:46activation
- 5:47where
- 5:47muscles
- 5:48that
- 5:48shouldn't
- 5:48be
- 5:48involved
- 5:49contract,
- 5:50and
- 5:50that's
- 5:50a
- 5:50problem.
- 5:51Why
- 5:51is
- 5:51that
- 5:51happening?
- 5:52Because
- 5:52we
- 5:52block
- 5:53dopamine.
- 5:53First
- 5:53generation
- 5:54antipsychotics,
- 5:55High
- 5:55affinity
- 5:56for
- 5:56dopamine
- 5:56receptors,
- 5:57high
- 5:58occupancy
- 5:58levels.
- 5:59That
- 6:00goes
- 6:00ahead
- 6:01and
- 6:01blocks
- 6:02dopamine.
- 6:02And
- 6:02now
- 6:03your
- 6:03seesaw
- 6:03between
- 6:04dopamine
- 6:05and
- 6:05acetylcholine
- 6:06is
- 6:08out
- 6:08of
- 6:08whack.
- 6:08It
- 6:09needs
- 6:09to
- 6:09be
- 6:09a
- 6:09balanced
- 6:10seesaw
- 6:10between
- 6:10dopamine
- 6:11and
- 6:11acetylcholine.
- 6:12Dopamine
- 6:14in
- 6:14the.
- 6:14So
- 6:15there's
- 6:15a
- 6:15key
- 6:15balance
- 6:16in
- 6:16this
- 6:16striatum,
- 6:17right?
- 6:17A
- 6:17nigrostriatal
- 6:18pathway.
- 6:19You've
- 6:19probably
- 6:19learned
- 6:19about
- 6:20this
- 6:20in
- 6:20school.
- 6:20And
- 6:21the
- 6:21key
- 6:21balance
- 6:21there
- 6:21is
- 6:22between
- 6:22dopamine
- 6:22and
- 6:23acetylcholine.
- 6:23There's
- 6:24a
- 6:24fine
- 6:24neurochemical
- 6:25balance,
- 6:26okay?
- 6:26Now,
- 6:26dopamine
- 6:27in
- 6:27that
- 6:28particular
- 6:28brain
- 6:28region
- 6:29fine
- 6:29tunes
- 6:29and
- 6:30inhibits
- 6:30excessive
- 6:31motor
- 6:31signals.
- 6:32And
- 6:32acetylcholine
- 6:33excites
- 6:34motor
- 6:34signals.
- 6:34It
- 6:35increases
- 6:35muscle
- 6:36activation.
- 6:36So
- 6:37when
- 6:37antipsychotics
- 6:38block
- 6:38dopamine
- 6:382
- 6:38receptors,
- 6:39the
- 6:39inhibitory
- 6:40break
- 6:40is
- 6:41lost.
- 6:41And
- 6:42now
- 6:42acetylcholine
- 6:43goes
- 6:43unchecked
- 6:43and
- 6:43the
- 6:43seesaw's
- 6:44all
- 6:44the
- 6:44way
- 6:44up
- 6:44in
- 6:44the
- 6:45air
- 6:45and
- 6:45you
- 6:45have
- 6:45muscle
- 6:46over
- 6:46activation
- 6:47or
- 6:47dystonia.
- 6:48So
- 6:48anticholinergics
- 6:49like
- 6:49Benztropine
- 6:50jump
- 6:50in
- 6:51there
- 6:51and.
- 6:51And
- 6:51block
- 6:52muscarinic
- 6:52acetylcholine
- 6:53receptors,
- 6:54which
- 6:54reduces
- 6:54the
- 6:54excessive
- 6:55acetylcholine
- 6:56tone.
- 6:57Right?
- 6:58So
- 6:58you
- 6:58have,
- 6:58in
- 6:58this
- 6:59case,
- 6:59Risperdal.
- 7:00Mario's
- 7:00taking
- 7:01Risperdal
- 7:02and
- 7:02dopamine's
- 7:03blocked.
- 7:03It
- 7:04has
- 7:04a
- 7:04higher
- 7:04affinity.
- 7:05Dopamine,
- 7:06Risperidol
- 7:06has
- 7:07a
- 7:07higher
- 7:07affinity
- 7:07with
- 7:07those
- 7:08dopamine
- 7:08receptors.
- 7:09Higher
- 7:09occupancy
- 7:10rates
- 7:10at.
- 7:11At
- 7:11lower
- 7:11doses
- 7:12and
- 7:12it's
- 7:13being
- 7:13blocked.
- 7:13And
- 7:14acetylcholine
- 7:15is
- 7:16overstimulated
- 7:16in
- 7:17those
- 7:17motor
- 7:17pathways
- 7:17and
- 7:18hence
- 7:18his
- 7:18neck
- 7:19movements
- 7:19and
- 7:20his
- 7:20feelings
- 7:21of
- 7:21paralysis.
- 7:22Anticholinergics
- 7:23will
- 7:23restore
- 7:23the
- 7:23balance
- 7:24and
- 7:24that's
- 7:24exactly
- 7:25why
- 7:25we
- 7:25want
- 7:25to
- 7:26give
- 7:26him
- 7:26entropy
- 7:27to
- 7:27help
- 7:27his
- 7:27situation.
- 7:28Now
- 7:28remember,
- 7:29with
- 7:29EPS
- 7:29symptoms,
- 7:30drug
- 7:31induced
- 7:31movement
- 7:32disorders,
- 7:33acute
- 7:33dystonia
- 7:34is
- 7:34the
- 7:34one
- 7:34on
- 7:34your
- 7:35boards.
- 7:35They're
- 7:35going
- 7:35to
- 7:36ask
- 7:36you
- 7:36to
- 7:37potentially
- 7:37match
- 7:37these
- 7:38up
- 7:38or
- 7:38on
- 7:38your
- 7:38tests,
- 7:39Tony,
- 7:39as
- 7:39are
- 7:40one
- 7:40of
- 7:40the
- 7:40first
- 7:40guests
- 7:41at
- 7:41the
- 7:41parties,
- 7:42right.
- 7:42They
- 7:43come
- 7:43between
- 7:43hours
- 7:44and
- 7:44days
- 7:45when
- 7:45you
- 7:45start
- 7:46a
- 7:46medication
- 7:46or
- 7:46when
- 7:47you
- 7:47increase
- 7:47a
- 7:47dose.
- 7:48Right?
- 7:48So
- 7:49hours
- 7:49to
- 7:49days.
- 7:49Then
- 7:50you
- 7:50have
- 7:50aesthesia,
- 7:50which
- 7:51comes
- 7:51days
- 7:51to
- 7:51weeks
- 7:52later
- 7:52and
- 7:53involves
- 7:53restlessness.
- 7:54Then
- 7:54you
- 7:54have
- 7:55parkinsonism
- 7:55symptoms,
- 7:56weeks
- 7:56to
- 7:57months,
- 7:57tremors,
- 7:57rigidity,
- 7:58slowness.
- 7:59And
- 7:59then
- 7:59you
- 7:59have
- 7:59the
- 7:59tardive
- 8:00dyskinesia
- 8:00as
- 8:01months
- 8:01to
- 8:01years
- 8:01repetitive
- 8:02orofacial
- 8:03limb
- 8:03movement.
- 8:04So
- 8:04knowing
- 8:04the
- 8:04order
- 8:04of
- 8:05that,
- 8:05of
- 8:05course
- 8:05is
- 8:06a
- 8:06very
- 8:06important
- 8:06pearl.
- 8:07The
- 8:07acute
- 8:07dystonia
- 8:08is
- 8:08hours
- 8:08today,
- 8:09so
- 8:09be
- 8:09on
- 8:09alert.
- 8:10And
- 8:10it's
- 8:10one
- 8:11of
- 8:11those
- 8:11medication
- 8:12side
- 8:12effects
- 8:13you
- 8:13want
- 8:13to
- 8:13make
- 8:13very
- 8:13clear
- 8:14for
- 8:14your
- 8:15patients,
- 8:15especially
- 8:16with
- 8:17respect
- 8:17to
- 8:17the
- 8:17potential
- 8:18emergencies
- 8:19they
- 8:19might
- 8:19have
- 8:20to
- 8:20deal
- 8:20with.
- 8:21Now
- 8:22we
- 8:22talked
- 8:22about
- 8:23Risperdal
- 8:24being
- 8:24a
- 8:24high
- 8:25D2
- 8:25occupancy
- 8:26second
- 8:26generation
- 8:27antipsychotic,
- 8:28right?
- 8:29And
- 8:30we
- 8:30talked
- 8:30a
- 8:30little
- 8:31bit
- 8:31about
- 8:31affinity
- 8:31and
- 8:31I
- 8:32just
- 8:32want
- 8:32to
- 8:32circle
- 8:32back
- 8:32that.
- 8:33Affinity
- 8:33is
- 8:33how
- 8:33tightly
- 8:34a
- 8:34drug
- 8:34binds
- 8:35to
- 8:35a
- 8:35receptor.
- 8:36It's
- 8:37usually
- 8:37measured
- 8:38in
- 8:38a
- 8:38KD
- 8:38value
- 8:39and
- 8:39the
- 8:39lower
- 8:39that
- 8:39KD
- 8:40value,
- 8:41the
- 8:41tighter
- 8:41the
- 8:42affinity
- 8:42is.
- 8:42Risperdal,
- 8:43as
- 8:44we
- 8:44shared,
- 8:44has
- 8:44actually
- 8:45a
- 8:45pretty
- 8:45high
- 8:45affinity
- 8:46for
- 8:46that
- 8:46D2
- 8:47receptor.
- 8:47Occupancy
- 8:48is
- 8:48how
- 8:49many
- 8:49receptors
- 8:49are
- 8:50actually
- 8:50are
- 8:50actually
- 8:51bound
- 8:52at
- 8:52a
- 8:52given
- 8:53concentration.
- 8:53We
- 8:54talked
- 8:54about
- 8:54parking
- 8:54spots
- 8:55with
- 8:55occupancy.
- 8:55We
- 8:56talk
- 8:56about
- 8:56affinity,
- 8:56how
- 8:57tightly
- 8:57a
- 8:57drug
- 8:58binds
- 8:58to
- 8:58a
- 8:58receptor.
- 8:59I
- 8:59think
- 8:59of
- 8:59a
- 8:59sticky
- 9:00or
- 9:00like
- 9:00a
- 9:00magnet.
- 9:01Low
- 9:01affinity
- 9:02is
- 9:02loose,
- 9:02it
- 9:02binds
- 9:03and
- 9:03then
- 9:03it
- 9:03slips
- 9:03off
- 9:04quickly
- 9:05from
- 9:05the
- 9:05receptor,
- 9:06which
- 9:06can
- 9:06be
- 9:06beneficial
- 9:07at
- 9:07times
- 9:08with
- 9:08medications
- 9:08like
- 9:09Quetiapine
- 9:10might
- 9:10be
- 9:10a
- 9:10different
- 9:10podcast
- 9:11episode.
- 9:11We
- 9:12can
- 9:12go
- 9:12into
- 9:12that
- 9:12later.
- 9:13Suffice
- 9:14it
- 9:14to
- 9:14say
- 9:14these
- 9:14high
- 9:15affinity
- 9:16second
- 9:16generation
- 9:16antipsychotics,
- 9:18there's
- 9:18not
- 9:18many
- 9:19of
- 9:19them.
- 9:19Remember
- 9:19the
- 9:19first
- 9:20generation
- 9:20antipsychotics,
- 9:21the
- 9:21Haldols,
- 9:22right.
- 9:22Those
- 9:23are
- 9:23usually
- 9:23the
- 9:23higher
- 9:24affinity
- 9:24for
- 9:24D2,
- 9:25where
- 9:25they
- 9:26really
- 9:26latch
- 9:27onto
- 9:27those
- 9:27D2
- 9:28receptors
- 9:28potently.
- 9:29They
- 9:29occupy
- 9:30a
- 9:30lot
- 9:30of
- 9:30those
- 9:30receptors
- 9:31and
- 9:32hence
- 9:32cause
- 9:32muscle
- 9:33movements
- 9:34like
- 9:34the
- 9:34one
- 9:34we're
- 9:34talking
- 9:34with
- 9:35Mario?
- 9:35But
- 9:35again,
- 9:36second
- 9:36generation
- 9:36antipsychotics
- 9:37are
- 9:37not
- 9:38immune
- 9:38to
- 9:38this.
- 9:38You
- 9:38still
- 9:39have
- 9:39to
- 9:39be
- 9:39a
- 9:39little
- 9:39bit
- 9:39on
- 9:40guard,
- 9:40particularly
- 9:41with
- 9:41Risperidol
- 9:42and
- 9:42Invega.
- 9:43High
- 9:43affinity
- 9:44for
- 9:44D2,
- 9:44risperidol,
- 9:45risperidone
- 9:46binds
- 9:46tightly
- 9:47and
- 9:47it
- 9:47doesn't
- 9:47really
- 9:48let
- 9:48go.
- 9:48It
- 9:48leads
- 9:48to
- 9:48high
- 9:49occupancy
- 9:50even
- 9:50at
- 9:50low
- 9:50to
- 9:50moderate
- 9:51doses,
- 9:5170
- 9:52to
- 9:5280%
- 9:53D2
- 9:53occupancy.
- 9:54That
- 9:54high
- 9:54affinity,
- 9:55high
- 9:55occupancy
- 9:56can
- 9:56definitely
- 9:57raise
- 9:57the
- 9:57EPS
- 9:58risk.
- 9:59Contrast
- 9:59that
- 10:00with
- 10:00something
- 10:00like
- 10:00Seroquel,
- 10:01which
- 10:01has
- 10:01a
- 10:01lower
- 10:01affinity
- 10:02for
- 10:02D2.
- 10:02It
- 10:03binds
- 10:03more
- 10:03weakly,
- 10:03comes
- 10:04off
- 10:04the
- 10:04receptor
- 10:05a
- 10:05little
- 10:05bit
- 10:06more
- 10:06often.
- 10:07It's
- 10:07what
- 10:07we
- 10:08call
- 10:08fast
- 10:08off
- 10:08kinetics.
- 10:09So
- 10:09it
- 10:09gets
- 10:10on
- 10:10the
- 10:10receptor,
- 10:10binds
- 10:11weakly
- 10:11and
- 10:11slips
- 10:12off,
- 10:12which
- 10:13sort
- 10:13of
- 10:13helps
- 10:13a
- 10:13little
- 10:14bit
- 10:14because
- 10:14it's
- 10:15not
- 10:15blocking
- 10:15it
- 10:15as
- 10:16often
- 10:16and
- 10:17allows
- 10:17endogenous
- 10:18dopamine
- 10:18to
- 10:18bind
- 10:19there
- 10:19more
- 10:20frequently,
- 10:20which
- 10:20mitigates
- 10:21some
- 10:21of
- 10:22these
- 10:22movement
- 10:22side
- 10:22effects.
- 10:23It
- 10:23is
- 10:23fascinating
- 10:24to
- 10:24consider
- 10:25that
- 10:25the
- 10:25way
- 10:26the
- 10:26stickiness
- 10:27of
- 10:27these
- 10:28drugs
- 10:28on
- 10:28the
- 10:29receptors,
- 10:29some
- 10:30are
- 10:30just
- 10:30like
- 10:30a
- 10:30magnet
- 10:31that's
- 10:31airtight.
- 10:32It
- 10:32just
- 10:32sticks
- 10:32immediately.
- 10:33It's
- 10:33one
- 10:33of
- 10:33those
- 10:33magnets
- 10:34you're
- 10:34trying
- 10:34to
- 10:34pull
- 10:34off
- 10:35the
- 10:35refrigerator
- 10:35and.
- 10:36And
- 10:36then
- 10:36you
- 10:36have
- 10:36the
- 10:37ones
- 10:37that
- 10:37kind
- 10:37of
- 10:37float
- 10:37there
- 10:38like
- 10:38floating
- 10:39magnets.
- 10:39They
- 10:40come
- 10:40on
- 10:40and
- 10:40come
- 10:40off
- 10:41this
- 10:41little
- 10:41dance.
- 10:42They're
- 10:43a
- 10:43little
- 10:43more
- 10:43fluid.
- 11:38So
- 11:38you're
- 11:38not
- 11:38blocking
- 10:44D2
- 11:39as
- 11:40strongly.
- 11:40Hence
- 11:41why
- 11:41Seroquel
- 11:42might
- 11:42not
- 11:42block
- 11:42D2
- 11:43as
- 11:43strongly.
- 11:44And
- 11:44it
- 11:44might
- 11:44not
- 11:44be
- 11:45the
- 11:45best
- 11:45antipsychotic
- 11:46in
- 11:46like
- 11:46fluoride
- 11:47psychosis,
- 11:48but
- 11:48it's
- 11:48lower
- 11:49affinity
- 11:49is
- 11:50kind
- 11:50of
- 11:50more
- 11:50of
- 11:50a,
- 11:51again,
- 11:51it's
- 11:51more
- 11:51of
- 11:51a
- 11:52fluid
- 11:52blocking
- 11:53where
- 11:53it's
- 11:53on
- 11:53and
- 11:54off
- 11:54that
- 11:54receptor.
- 11:55And
- 11:55that
- 11:55can
- 11:55mitigate
- 11:56some
- 11:56of
- 11:56the
- 11:56worst
- 11:57side
- 11:57effects
- 11:57we
- 11:57deal
- 11:58with
- 11:58when
- 11:58it
- 11:58comes
- 11:58to
- 11:59the
- 11:59first
- 11:59generations.
- 12:00And
- 12:01risperidone.
- 12:02Very
- 12:02interesting
- 12:03stuff
- 12:03here
- 12:03with
- 12:04Mario.
- 12:04We
- 12:04have
- 12:05the
- 12:05tools
- 12:05to
- 12:05help
- 12:05him
- 12:05out.
- 12:06Before
- 12:06we
- 12:07go
- 12:07into
- 12:07that
- 12:07a
- 12:07little
- 12:07more,
- 12:08I
- 12:08also
- 12:09wanted
- 12:09to
- 12:09touch
- 12:09on
- 12:10second
- 12:11generation
- 12:11antipsychotics
- 12:12and
- 12:12why
- 12:12movement
- 12:13disorders
- 12:14typically
- 12:15aren't
- 12:15as
- 12:16significant
- 12:16as
- 12:16first
- 12:17generation
- 12:17antipsychotics
- 12:18and
- 12:19how
- 12:19that
- 12:19works
- 12:19out.
- 12:19It
- 12:20is
- 12:20interesting
- 12:20because
- 12:21second
- 12:21generation
- 12:21antipsychotics
- 12:22are
- 12:22usually
- 12:23buffered
- 12:23by
- 12:23their
- 12:24antagonism
- 12:25of
- 12:255ht2a.
- 12:27Because
- 12:27we
- 12:27know
- 12:28that
- 12:285ht2a
- 12:30normally
- 12:30it's
- 12:31like
- 12:31a
- 12:31break
- 12:31on
- 12:32dopamine
- 12:32in
- 12:33the
- 12:33striatum.
- 12:34And
- 12:34we
- 12:34don't
- 12:34really
- 12:34want
- 12:35dopamine
- 12:35to
- 12:35be
- 12:36pumped
- 12:36like
- 12:36the
- 12:36brakes
- 12:36to
- 12:37be
- 12:37pumped
- 12:37on
- 12:37dopamine
- 12:37in
- 12:38the
- 12:38striatum.
- 12:38That's
- 12:39the
- 12:39whole
- 12:39problem,
- 12:39right?
- 12:40Because
- 12:40too
- 12:40much
- 12:40dopamine
- 12:41is
- 12:41being
- 12:41blocked.
- 12:41And
- 12:42when
- 12:42you
- 12:42block
- 12:42dopamine,
- 12:43the
- 12:43other
- 12:43edge
- 12:43of
- 12:43that
- 12:44seesaw
- 12:44starts
- 12:44flying,
- 12:45the
- 12:45acetylcholine
- 12:46and
- 12:46you
- 12:46have
- 12:46muscle
- 12:47overactivity.
- 12:48So
- 12:48SGAs,
- 12:49they,
- 12:50instead
- 12:50of
- 12:50putting
- 12:51a
- 12:51break
- 12:51on
- 12:51the
- 12:51dopamine,
- 12:52Instead
- 12:52of
- 12:52agonizing
- 12:535ht
- 12:542a,
- 12:55they
- 12:55antagonize
- 12:56it,
- 12:56which
- 12:56actually
- 12:57releases
- 12:58the
- 12:58break
- 12:58on
- 12:58dopamine
- 12:59a
- 12:59little
- 12:59bit
- 12:59and
- 12:59boom,
- 13:00more
- 13:00dopamine
- 13:01in
- 13:01this
- 13:01triatum.
- 13:02It
- 13:02mitigates
- 13:03some
- 13:03of
- 13:03those
- 13:03movement
- 13:04side
- 13:04effects.
- 13:05Right?
- 13:05But
- 13:06again,
- 13:06remember,
- 13:06this
- 13:07is
- 13:07all
- 13:07sort
- 13:07of
- 13:07a
- 13:07dance.
- 13:08It's
- 13:08a
- 13:08fun
- 13:08dance,
- 13:09it's
- 13:09an
- 13:09exciting
- 13:09dance.
- 13:10But
- 13:10risperdal
- 13:11has
- 13:12high
- 13:12D2
- 13:13occupancy,
- 13:13so
- 13:13it's
- 13:14blocking
- 13:14D2
- 13:15so
- 13:15forcefully,
- 13:16more
- 13:16so
- 13:16than
- 13:16those
- 13:17other
- 13:17second
- 13:17generation
- 13:18antipsychotics.
- 13:19So
- 13:19that
- 13:19buffer,
- 13:20that
- 13:205ht2a
- 13:22antagonism,
- 13:22it's
- 13:23competing
- 13:23with
- 13:23more
- 13:24because
- 13:24risperidol
- 13:25is
- 13:25just
- 13:25really
- 13:25blocking
- 13:26D2.
- 13:26So
- 13:26that
- 13:27doesn't
- 13:27really
- 13:27help.
- 13:28And
- 13:28with
- 13:28Seroquel,
- 13:29Seroquel
- 13:30actually
- 13:30does
- 13:31go
- 13:31ahead
- 13:31and
- 13:32antagonize
- 13:325ht2
- 13:33a
- 13:33little
- 13:33bit.
- 13:34And
- 13:34that
- 13:34helps,
- 13:35right?
- 13:35That
- 13:35helps
- 13:35release
- 13:36a
- 13:36little
- 13:36more
- 13:37dopamine
- 13:37in
- 13:37the
- 13:37striatum
- 13:38and
- 13:38mitigate
- 13:39or
- 13:39lower
- 13:40some
- 13:40of
- 13:41those
- 13:41movement
- 13:42side
- 13:42effects.
- 13:42Very
- 13:43interesting.
- 13:43You
- 13:43have
- 13:44medications
- 13:44like
- 13:45Seroquel
- 13:45with
- 13:45their
- 13:46anticholinergic
- 13:47effects
- 13:47embedded
- 13:48in
- 13:48the
- 13:48medication.
- 13:49Right?
- 13:49Which
- 13:49is
- 13:50neat
- 13:50because
- 13:50they
- 13:51have
- 13:51some
- 13:51muscarinic
- 13:52activity.
- 13:52Don't
- 13:53worry
- 13:53about
- 13:53muscarinic
- 13:54and
- 13:54anticholinergic.
- 13:55These
- 13:55are
- 13:56just
- 13:56ways
- 13:56to
- 13:57buffer
- 13:57against
- 13:57movement
- 13:58disorders.
- 13:59Even
- 13:59more
- 13:59so
- 13:59when
- 14:00a
- 14:00drug
- 14:00like
- 14:00Seroquel
- 14:01has
- 14:01muscarinic
- 14:01activity
- 14:02and
- 14:02naturally
- 14:03embedded
- 14:03anticholinergic
- 14:04side
- 14:05effects,
- 14:05then
- 14:06we
- 14:06have
- 14:06this
- 14:06little
- 14:07embedded
- 14:07cushion
- 14:08in
- 14:08the
- 14:08medication
- 14:08that
- 14:09brings
- 14:09that
- 14:09seesaw
- 14:10back.
- 14:11Very
- 14:11cool
- 14:12way
- 14:12to
- 14:12mitigate
- 14:13this.
- 14:13If
- 14:13you're
- 14:14worried
- 14:14about
- 14:14anticholinergic
- 14:15side
- 14:15effects,
- 14:15we
- 14:15could
- 14:16even
- 14:16get
- 14:16rid
- 14:16of
- 14:16the
- 14:16risperidol
- 14:17altogether.
- 14:17You
- 14:18have
- 14:18to
- 14:18address
- 14:19his
- 14:20neck
- 14:20paralysis
- 14:21and
- 14:21neck
- 14:21movements
- 14:21right
- 14:22now
- 14:22because
- 14:22that
- 14:22is
- 14:23an
- 14:23urgent
- 14:23situation.
- 14:24We've
- 14:24gotta
- 14:25take
- 14:25care
- 14:25of
- 14:25that.
- 14:25Now.
- 14:26After
- 14:26we
- 14:26give
- 14:27him
- 14:27benztropine
- 14:28and
- 14:28cogentin
- 14:29orally
- 14:29for
- 14:29a
- 14:30few
- 14:30days
- 14:30to
- 14:30make
- 14:30sure
- 14:31he's
- 14:31out
- 14:31of
- 14:31the
- 14:31clouds
- 14:32and
- 14:32monitor
- 14:32him
- 14:33closely,
- 14:33you
- 14:34may
- 14:34be
- 14:34able
- 14:34to
- 14:35to
- 14:35actually
- 14:36switch
- 14:36him.
- 14:37If
- 14:37he
- 14:37says,
- 14:37hell
- 14:38no,
- 14:38I'm
- 14:38done
- 14:38with
- 14:38this
- 14:39medication,
- 14:39I'm
- 14:39not
- 14:39doing
- 14:40it.
- 14:41You
- 14:41could
- 14:41transition
- 14:42him
- 14:42to
- 14:42something
- 14:42like
- 14:42Seroquel.
- 14:43You
- 14:43have
- 14:43the
- 14:43anticholinergic
- 14:45effects
- 14:45embedded
- 14:45in
- 14:46Seroquel.
- 14:47To
- 14:47bring
- 14:47the
- 14:47seesaw
- 14:48back,
- 14:48you
- 14:48have
- 14:49the
- 14:495ht
- 14:492a
- 14:50antagonism
- 14:51to
- 14:51encourage
- 14:52that
- 14:52dopamine
- 14:53release
- 14:53in
- 14:53the
- 14:53striatum.
- 14:54That
- 14:54might
- 14:55be
- 14:55more
- 14:55compatible.
- 14:56But
- 14:56again,
- 14:56there's
- 14:57trade
- 14:57offs.
- 14:57Right.
- 14:58Got
- 14:58that
- 14:58potent
- 14:59histaminergic
- 15:00anti
- 15:00histaminergic
- 15:01activity,
- 15:02which
- 15:02can
- 15:02cause
- 15:02weight
- 15:03gain
- 15:03and
- 15:03sedation.
- 15:04So,
- 15:04my
- 15:05friends,
- 15:05if
- 15:05you've
- 15:05noticed
- 15:06something
- 15:06about
- 15:06psychopharm,
- 15:07there's
- 15:08a
- 15:08balance,
- 15:08an
- 15:08elegant
- 15:09balance
- 15:09between
- 15:09everything.
- 15:10There's
- 15:10trade
- 15:11offs.
- 15:11It's
- 15:11not
- 15:11as
- 15:11simple
- 15:12as
- 15:12this
- 15:12one's.
- 15:13Better.
- 15:13That
- 15:13one's
- 15:14better.
- 15:14Because
- 15:15if
- 15:15Mario
- 15:15already
- 15:16was
- 15:16100
- 15:16pounds
- 15:17overweight,
- 15:17it's
- 15:17problematic
- 15:18to
- 15:19transition
- 15:19him
- 15:19to
- 15:19a
- 15:20medication
- 15:20that
- 15:20might
- 15:21cause
- 15:21even
- 15:21more
- 15:21weight
- 15:22gain.
- 15:22And
- 15:23we
- 15:23go
- 15:23over
- 15:23in
- 15:23old
- 15:23episodes,
- 15:24the
- 15:245ht2c
- 15:25receptor.
- 15:26And
- 15:26if
- 15:26you
- 15:26have
- 15:26a
- 15:26strong
- 15:27antagonist
- 15:27like
- 15:28Zyprexa,
- 15:29that's
- 15:29going
- 15:29to
- 15:29cause
- 15:29more
- 15:30weight
- 15:30gain.
- 15:30So
- 15:30you
- 15:31got
- 15:31to
- 15:31really
- 15:31look
- 15:31at
- 15:31this
- 15:32and
- 15:32know
- 15:32all
- 15:32your
- 15:33receptors
- 15:33and
- 15:33what
- 15:34they
- 15:34do
- 15:34and
- 15:34why
- 15:35we
- 15:35choose
- 15:35them.
- 15:35It's
- 15:36so
- 15:36important.
- 15:36And
- 15:37if
- 15:37you're
- 15:37at
- 15:37all
- 15:38realize
- 15:38that
- 15:38I
- 15:39repeat
- 15:39stuff
- 15:39on
- 15:39this
- 15:39podcast,
- 15:40I
- 15:40do
- 15:40that
- 15:40on
- 15:40purpose.
- 15:41I
- 15:42repeat
- 15:42a
- 15:42lot
- 15:42of
- 15:42things
- 15:43because
- 15:43I
- 15:43find
- 15:43that's
- 15:43a
- 15:44good
- 15:44way
- 15:44to
- 15:44learn.
- 15:44I
- 15:45go
- 15:45over
- 15:45one
- 15:45thing
- 15:46in
- 15:46the
- 15:46case
- 15:46and
- 15:46then
- 15:46I
- 15:47repeat
- 15:47it
- 15:47again
- 15:47later
- 15:48because
- 15:48I
- 15:48recognize
- 15:49there's
- 15:49a
- 15:49lot
- 15:49of
- 15:49moving
- 15:50pieces
- 15:50here.
- 15:50And
- 15:50it
- 15:51really
- 15:51helps
- 15:51to
- 15:51go
- 15:51back
- 15:52to
- 15:52things
- 15:52and
- 15:53come
- 15:53full
- 15:53circle.
- 15:55Now
- 15:55Mario's
- 15:56getting
- 15:56treated.
- 15:57We
- 15:57have
- 15:57a
- 15:57little
- 15:58better
- 15:58of
- 15:58an
- 15:58idea
- 15:58of
- 15:59what's
- 15:59going
- 15:59on.
- 15:59The
- 16:00blockade
- 16:00of
- 16:00dopamine
- 16:01receptors
- 16:01in
- 16:01his,
- 16:02the
- 16:02striatal
- 16:03areas,
- 16:03the
- 16:04basal
- 16:04ganglia,
- 16:05more
- 16:05broadly
- 16:06part
- 16:06of
- 16:06his
- 16:06brain
- 16:07that
- 16:07affect
- 16:07his
- 16:07kind
- 16:08of
- 16:08motor
- 16:08control
- 16:08center.
- 16:09Right.
- 16:09We're
- 16:09blocking
- 16:09dopamine.
- 16:10So
- 16:10we
- 16:11have
- 16:11an
- 16:11idea
- 16:11of
- 16:11why
- 16:12this
- 16:12is
- 16:12a
- 16:12problem.
- 16:12Risperidone
- 16:13is
- 16:13one
- 16:14of
- 16:14the
- 16:14more
- 16:14potent
- 16:14blockers.
- 16:15So
- 16:16what's
- 16:16a
- 16:16risk
- 16:16factor
- 16:17for
- 16:17dystonia?
- 16:17Let's
- 16:18pivot
- 16:18a
- 16:18little
- 16:18bit.
- 16:19Well,
- 16:19young
- 16:19people
- 16:19are
- 16:20more
- 16:20privy
- 16:20to
- 16:20it.
- 16:20They
- 16:21have
- 16:21higher
- 16:21dopaminergic
- 16:22tone,
- 16:22they're
- 16:22more
- 16:22sut.
- 16:23They're
- 16:23more
- 16:23vulnerable
- 16:23to
- 16:24sudden
- 16:24D2
- 16:24blockades.
- 16:25Males,
- 16:26they
- 16:26have
- 16:26a
- 16:27higher
- 16:27baseline
- 16:27muscle
- 16:28tone,
- 16:28high
- 16:29potency
- 16:29or
- 16:29high
- 16:29dose
- 16:30D2
- 16:30blockers.
- 16:31First
- 16:31generation
- 16:31antipsychotics
- 16:32like
- 16:32we
- 16:33mentioned,
- 16:33as
- 16:33well
- 16:33as
- 16:33Risperdal
- 16:34or
- 16:34Invega,
- 16:35they
- 16:35tend
- 16:35to
- 16:36be
- 16:36a
- 16:36little
- 16:36bit
- 16:36more
- 16:36potent,
- 16:37rapid
- 16:37titration.
- 16:38So
- 16:38if
- 16:38you're
- 16:39increasing,
- 16:39maybe
- 16:39you're
- 16:40in
- 16:40an
- 16:40inpatient
- 16:40setting
- 16:41and
- 16:41you're
- 16:41rapidly
- 16:41increasing
- 16:42an
- 16:42antipsychotic,
- 16:43guess
- 16:43what?
- 16:44That
- 16:44is
- 16:44also
- 16:44going
- 16:45to
- 16:45increase
- 16:45the
- 16:45possibility
- 16:46of
- 16:47these
- 16:47side
- 16:47effects
- 16:47happening
- 16:48and
- 16:48maybe
- 16:49would
- 16:49even
- 16:49warrant
- 16:50prophylactic
- 16:51use
- 16:52of
- 16:52benztropine.
- 16:53Now,
- 16:53that's
- 16:53not
- 16:54standard.
- 16:54I
- 16:54advise
- 16:55you
- 16:55all
- 16:55dig
- 16:55into
- 16:55the
- 16:56guidelines
- 16:56to,
- 16:57to
- 16:57get
- 16:57this,
- 16:58get
- 16:58a
- 16:58more
- 16:58specific
- 16:59protocol
- 17:00here.
- 17:00I'm
- 17:01not
- 17:01advising
- 17:01that,
- 17:02but
- 17:02certain
- 17:02people,
- 17:03prophylactic
- 17:04anticholinergics
- 17:05would
- 17:05be
- 17:05wise.
- 17:05If
- 17:06someone
- 17:06has
- 17:06a
- 17:06history
- 17:06of
- 17:07acute
- 17:07dystonias.
- 17:08They're
- 17:08young
- 17:09and
- 17:09male.
- 17:09They're
- 17:09on
- 17:09first
- 17:10generation
- 17:10antipsychotics
- 17:11that
- 17:11require
- 17:11rapid
- 17:12titration.
- 17:12Maybe
- 17:13that
- 17:13would
- 17:13be
- 17:13a
- 17:13good
- 17:13reason
- 17:14to
- 17:15prophylactically
- 17:16treat
- 17:16with
- 17:16Benstropine.
- 17:17Right.
- 17:18Some
- 17:18people
- 17:18give
- 17:18diphenohydramine
- 17:2050
- 17:20milligrams
- 17:20IM
- 17:20IV.
- 17:21Think
- 17:21about
- 17:22this
- 17:22and
- 17:23put
- 17:23it
- 17:23all
- 17:23together
- 17:24when
- 17:24it
- 17:24all
- 17:24makes
- 17:25sense
- 17:25in
- 17:25your
- 17:25brain.
- 17:26Now
- 17:27we
- 17:27know
- 17:27that
- 17:28there
- 17:28are
- 17:28some
- 17:28of
- 17:28the
- 17:28side
- 17:28effects
- 17:29for
- 17:29the
- 17:29bentropine,
- 17:30also
- 17:30known
- 17:30as
- 17:30cogentin.
- 17:31Dry
- 17:31mouth,
- 17:32blurred
- 17:32vision,
- 17:32constipation,
- 17:33urinary
- 17:33retention
- 17:34and
- 17:34sedation.
- 17:35Serious
- 17:36or
- 17:36rare
- 17:36side
- 17:36effects.
- 17:36A
- 17:37paralytic
- 17:37ilus.
- 17:38Do
- 17:38your
- 17:38research.
- 17:39Right.
- 17:39This
- 17:39podcast
- 17:40isn't
- 17:40everything
- 17:41but
- 17:41just
- 17:41wetting
- 17:42your
- 17:42appetite
- 17:42for
- 17:42what
- 17:43you
- 17:43need
- 17:43to
- 17:43know.
- 17:44Some
- 17:44basic
- 17:44pearls,
- 17:45some
- 17:45good
- 17:45pearls.
- 17:46Sometimes
- 17:46we
- 17:46go
- 17:47into
- 17:47depth.
- 17:47You
- 17:48get
- 17:48my
- 17:48point.
- 17:49Now,
- 17:50what
- 17:50else
- 17:50do
- 17:50we
- 17:51want
- 17:51to
- 17:51know
- 17:51about
- 17:51acute
- 17:52dystonias?
- 17:53Right?
- 17:54How
- 17:54else
- 17:54can
- 17:55we
- 17:55put
- 17:55this
- 17:56together?
- 17:56We
- 17:56talked
- 17:57a
- 17:57little
- 17:57bit
- 17:57about
- 17:57choosing
- 17:58an
- 17:58SGA
- 17:59with
- 17:59lower
- 17:59D2
- 18:00binding
- 18:00affinity.
- 18:01Fast
- 18:02off
- 18:02kinetics
- 18:02that
- 18:02Seroquel
- 18:03magnet
- 18:04that
- 18:04kind
- 18:04of
- 18:04comes
- 18:05on
- 18:05and
- 18:05off
- 18:05of
- 18:05the
- 18:06D2
- 18:06receptor,
- 18:07allowing
- 18:07for
- 18:08a
- 18:08little
- 18:08more
- 18:08endogenous
- 18:09dopamine
- 18:10to
- 18:10bind
- 18:10there.
- 18:10As
- 18:11opposed
- 18:11to
- 18:11this
- 18:12really
- 18:12stuck
- 18:12magnet
- 18:13where
- 18:13the
- 18:13endogenous
- 18:14dopamine
- 18:14you're
- 18:14normally.
- 18:15That's
- 18:16normally
- 18:16circulating
- 18:17in
- 18:17your
- 18:17body's
- 18:17not
- 18:17hitting
- 18:18that
- 18:18D2
- 18:19receptor
- 18:19because
- 18:19the
- 18:19magnet's
- 18:20so
- 18:20stuck
- 18:20to
- 18:20it.
- 18:20Switching
- 18:21to
- 18:21Quetiapine
- 18:22or
- 18:22Seroquel
- 18:23might
- 18:23be
- 18:23an
- 18:23option.
- 18:24You
- 18:24have
- 18:24Latuda
- 18:25strong
- 18:265ht2a
- 18:27antagonism,
- 18:28which
- 18:28again,
- 18:28we
- 18:29talked
- 18:29about
- 18:295ht2a
- 18:30and
- 18:31the
- 18:31releasing
- 18:32the
- 18:32break
- 18:32on
- 18:33dopamine
- 18:33and
- 18:33the
- 18:33nigrostriatal
- 18:34pathways,
- 18:35also
- 18:35pretty
- 18:36cool.
- 18:37So
- 18:37think
- 18:37of
- 18:37these
- 18:38as
- 18:39a
- 18:39menu
- 18:39of
- 18:39choices
- 18:40you
- 18:40have
- 18:40based
- 18:40on
- 18:41your
- 18:41patient.
- 18:42It
- 18:42gets
- 18:42so
- 18:42fascinating
- 18:43and
- 18:43I
- 18:43hope
- 18:43you're
- 18:43never
- 18:44intimidated
- 18:44by
- 18:44this
- 18:45stuff.
- 18:45It's
- 18:45always
- 18:45good
- 18:45to
- 18:46be
- 18:46humble
- 18:46and
- 18:47to
- 18:47know
- 18:47that
- 18:47things
- 18:48aren't
- 18:48so
- 18:48simple.
- 18:49This
- 18:49is
- 18:50a
- 18:50beautiful
- 18:51kind
- 18:51of
- 18:51art
- 18:51and
- 18:51a
- 18:52science.
- 18:52You
- 18:52have
- 18:52a
- 18:52patient
- 18:53in
- 18:53front
- 18:53of
- 18:53you
- 18:53who
- 18:53is
- 18:54so
- 18:54complex.
- 18:55We're
- 18:55all
- 18:55so
- 18:55complex.
- 18:56Patients
- 18:57have
- 18:57certain
- 18:57genetics.
- 18:58They
- 18:59have
- 18:59metabolic
- 18:59differences
- 19:00in
- 19:00how
- 19:00they
- 19:00even
- 19:01metabolize
- 19:01these
- 19:02medications.
- 19:03Some
- 19:04of
- 19:04them
- 19:04are
- 19:04poor
- 19:05metabolizers
- 19:06of
- 19:06your
- 19:06medication,
- 19:07right?
- 19:08Maybe
- 19:08they
- 19:08are
- 19:09poor
- 19:09metabolizers
- 19:10and
- 19:10more
- 19:11of
- 19:11the
- 19:11drug
- 19:11is
- 19:11in
- 19:12their
- 19:12system
- 19:12for
- 19:12longer.
- 19:13These
- 19:13side
- 19:14effects
- 19:14get
- 19:14even
- 19:14worse
- 19:15because
- 19:15those
- 19:15receptors
- 19:16are
- 19:16being
- 19:16saturated
- 19:17by
- 19:17all
- 19:17this
- 19:17risperidone
- 19:18that's
- 19:18not
- 19:18being
- 19:18cleared
- 19:19out.
- 19:19I
- 19:19just
- 19:19want
- 19:20you
- 19:20to
- 19:20appreciate
- 19:20the
- 19:21elegance
- 19:21and
- 19:21complexity
- 19:22of
- 19:22all
- 19:22of
- 19:22this
- 19:22because
- 19:23there's
- 19:23so
- 19:23much
- 19:23going
- 19:23on.
- 19:24It's
- 19:24not
- 19:24just
- 19:24as
- 19:24simple
- 19:25as
- 19:25here's
- 19:25a
- 19:25med
- 19:26and
- 19:26here's
- 19:26what
- 19:26it's
- 19:27going
- 19:27to
- 19:27do
- 19:27to
- 19:27you.
- 19:27It
- 19:27depends
- 19:28on
- 19:28your
- 19:28genetics.
- 19:29It
- 19:29depends
- 19:29on
- 19:29your
- 19:30endogenous
- 19:30dopamine
- 19:31levels,
- 19:32right?
- 19:32It
- 19:32depends
- 19:33on
- 19:33the
- 19:33blood
- 19:33barrier
- 19:34penetration
- 19:35that
- 19:35varies
- 19:35from
- 19:36person
- 19:36to
- 19:36person.
- 19:36The
- 19:36protein
- 19:37binding
- 19:37of
- 19:37these
- 19:38medications
- 19:38influences
- 19:39the
- 19:39concentration
- 19:40of
- 19:40the
- 19:40drugs
- 19:40and
- 19:41thus
- 19:41the
- 19:41side
- 19:41effects.
- 19:42Knowing
- 19:43that
- 19:43although
- 19:44that
- 19:44could
- 19:44be
- 19:44intimidating,
- 19:45it
- 19:45could
- 19:45also
- 19:45empower
- 19:46you
- 19:46to
- 19:46understand.
- 19:47Here's
- 19:47a
- 19:47medication.
- 19:48I
- 19:48have
- 19:48many
- 19:49different
- 19:49receptors.
- 19:50I
- 19:50have
- 19:50many
- 19:50different
- 19:50options
- 19:51as
- 19:51to
- 19:52what
- 19:52this
- 19:53medication
- 19:53is
- 19:53going
- 19:53to
- 19:54do
- 19:54and
- 19:54how
- 19:54it's
- 19:54going
- 19:54to
- 19:55exert
- 19:55an
- 19:55influence
- 19:56on
- 19:56each
- 19:56receptor.
- 19:57There's
- 19:57different
- 19:58brain
- 19:58areas,
- 19:59of
- 19:59course,
- 19:59and
- 20:00we're
- 20:00targeting
- 20:00different
- 20:01brain
- 20:01areas
- 20:01for
- 20:02different
- 20:02reasons.
- 20:03Opening
- 20:03the
- 20:03door,
- 20:04looking
- 20:04behind
- 20:04the
- 20:05curtain
- 20:05to
- 20:05understand
- 20:06these
- 20:06receptors
- 20:07and
- 20:07their
- 20:07pathways
- 20:08and
- 20:08how
- 20:09this
- 20:09all
- 20:09comes
- 20:09together
- 20:09is
- 20:10going
- 20:10to
- 20:10empower
- 20:10you
- 20:11be
- 20:11able
- 20:11to
- 20:12execute
- 20:12treatment
- 20:12plans
- 20:13that
- 20:13are
- 20:13much
- 20:13more
- 20:14precise
- 20:14and
- 20:14intentional.
- 20:15When
- 20:16you
- 20:16look
- 20:16behind
- 20:16the
- 20:16curtain
- 20:17and
- 20:17actually
- 20:17know
- 20:18what's
- 20:18going
- 20:18on.
- 20:19I
- 20:19hope
- 20:19you
- 20:20had
- 20:20a
- 20:21better
- 20:21idea
- 20:21of
- 20:22what
- 20:22a
- 20:22dystonia
- 20:23is,
- 20:23how
- 20:23to
- 20:24manage
- 20:24it.
- 20:25More
- 20:25specifically,
- 20:26why
- 20:26things
- 20:27are
- 20:27done
- 20:28at
- 20:28specific
- 20:29times.
- 20:30The
- 20:30receptor
- 20:30profiles.
- 20:31I
- 20:32encourage
- 20:32you
- 20:32to
- 20:32check
- 20:33out
- 20:33these
- 20:33SGAs,
- 20:34the
- 20:34second
- 20:34generation
- 20:35antipsychotics.
- 20:35Check
- 20:36out
- 20:36which
- 20:36ones
- 20:37have
- 20:37the
- 20:37highest
- 20:38affinity
- 20:38for
- 20:385HT2A
- 20:40in
- 20:40terms
- 20:40of
- 20:40their
- 20:41antagonism
- 20:41abilities,
- 20:42which
- 20:42med
- 20:42has
- 20:43the
- 20:43highest
- 20:43affinity
- 20:43for
- 20:43that,
- 20:44which
- 20:44has
- 20:44the
- 20:44Highest
- 20:44affinity
- 20:45for
- 20:45D2
- 20:45and
- 20:45at
- 20:46what
- 20:46dose.
- 20:46How
- 20:47are
- 20:47some
- 20:47meds
- 20:48going
- 20:48to
- 20:48hit
- 20:48a
- 20:48high
- 20:49affinity
- 20:49for
- 20:49D2
- 20:50rather
- 20:50quickly
- 20:50like
- 20:51Risperdal?
- 20:52Are
- 20:52some
- 20:52meds
- 20:53not
- 20:53and
- 20:53why?
- 20:54These
- 20:54are
- 20:54fascinating,
- 20:55fun
- 20:55questions
- 20:56that
- 20:56you
- 20:57can
- 20:57dig
- 20:57into
- 20:57and
- 20:58really
- 20:58empower
- 20:58yourself
- 20:59with
- 20:59psychopharm.
- 21:00Mario
- 21:01did
- 21:01a
- 21:01lot
- 21:01better.
- 21:02We're
- 21:02so
- 21:03happy
- 21:03he's
- 21:03doing
- 21:03better.
- 21:03His
- 21:04dystonia
- 21:04has
- 21:04resolved.
- 21:05We
- 21:06actually
- 21:06ended
- 21:06up
- 21:06transitioning
- 21:07him
- 21:08over
- 21:08to
- 21:08Quetiapine
- 21:10because
- 21:10risperidol
- 21:11was
- 21:11not
- 21:11a
- 21:11good
- 21:11fit
- 21:11for
- 21:12him.
- 21:12We
- 21:12did
- 21:12give
- 21:12him
- 21:13cogentin.
- 21:14We
- 21:14gave
- 21:14him
- 21:14some
- 21:15oral
- 21:15cogentin
- 21:16as
- 21:16well
- 21:16to
- 21:17bridge.
- 21:17A
- 21:17few
- 21:17days
- 21:18later,
- 21:18once
- 21:19we
- 21:19were
- 21:19able
- 21:19to
- 21:19safely
- 21:20taper
- 21:20his
- 21:20Risperidone,
- 21:21we
- 21:21onboarded
- 21:22Seroquel.
- 21:23I
- 21:23won't
- 21:23go
- 21:23into
- 21:23the
- 21:23details
- 21:24of
- 21:24a
- 21:24cross
- 21:24titration
- 21:25that
- 21:25is
- 21:25certainly
- 21:26not
- 21:26for
- 21:26this
- 21:26episode.
- 21:27But
- 21:27I
- 21:27am
- 21:28so
- 21:28grateful
- 21:28for
- 21:28each
- 21:29and
- 21:29every
- 21:29one
- 21:29of
- 21:29you
- 21:29who
- 21:29tuned
- 21:30in
- 21:30today.
- 21:30And
- 21:31um,
- 21:31don't
- 21:31forget
- 21:32to
- 21:32become
- 21:32Patreon
- 21:33members.
- 21:33You
- 21:33have
- 21:33access
- 21:34to
- 21:34beautiful
- 21:34slide
- 21:35decks
- 21:35where
- 21:36you
- 21:36can
- 21:36see
- 21:36all
- 21:36of
- 21:36this
- 21:37visually.
- 21:37Evidence
- 21:38based
- 21:38pearls
- 21:39to
- 21:39empower
- 21:39your
- 21:39practice.
- 21:40You'll
- 21:40get
- 21:40a
- 21:40bonus
- 21:41feed
- 21:42for
- 21:42bonus
- 21:42case
- 21:42studies
- 21:43and
- 21:43a
- 21:43bonus
- 21:44podcast.
- 21:44And
- 21:45if
- 21:45you
- 21:45can't
- 21:45do
- 21:45that,
- 21:45just
- 21:46donate
- 21:46a
- 21:46little
- 21:46bit,
- 21:47couple
- 21:47bucks
- 21:47a
- 21:47month
- 21:48to
- 21:48the
- 21:48podcast.
- 21:49Definitely
- 21:50would
- 21:50love
- 21:50if
- 21:50you
- 21:51went
- 21:52to
- 21:52Apple
- 21:52and
- 21:52rated
- 21:53us
- 21:53five
- 21:53stars
- 21:53with
- 21:53a
- 21:54comment
- 21:54that
- 21:55really
- 21:55helps
- 21:55more
- 21:55than
- 21:55anything.
- 21:56This
- 21:56podcast
- 21:56has
- 21:56gotten
- 21:57very,
- 21:57very
- 21:57big.
- 21:57Very
- 21:58quickly,
- 21:58particularly
- 21:59in
- 21:59NP
- 22:00circles
- 22:00for
- 22:00NP
- 22:01students.
- 22:02I
- 22:02love
- 22:02this
- 22:02field
- 22:03and
- 22:04I
- 22:04hope
- 22:04you
- 22:04all
- 22:04do
- 22:04too.
- 22:05It's
- 22:05fascinating.
- 22:06You're
- 22:06learning
- 22:07every
- 22:07day
- 22:07and
- 22:08I
- 22:08encourage
- 22:08you
- 22:08to
- 22:09spread
- 22:09the
- 22:09good
- 22:09word
- 22:10and
- 22:10email
- 22:10me
- 22:11in
- 22:11the
- 22:11show
- 22:11notes
- 22:12for
- 22:12any
- 22:12topics
- 22:12that
- 22:13you
- 22:13want
- 22:13covered.
- 22:13And
- 22:14I'm
- 22:14happy
- 22:14to
- 22:14cover
- 22:14them
- 22:15because
- 22:15it's
- 22:15all
- 22:15about
- 22:15learning
- 22:16and
- 22:16having
- 22:16fun.
- 22:17Take
- 22:17care
- 22:17my
- 22:17friends.
- 22:18Signing
- 22:18off
- 22:18now.
- 22:19Take
- 22:19care.
- 22:19Bye
- 22:19bye.