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AOC causes Founding Father Grave Roll Overs, 'WE didnt get our Way' so BYE VA SCOTUS & Trump takes China Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Wee can review
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  Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you. And here are the big stories
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  Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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  Speaker 1: First up, AOC doesn't understand how America was started, but
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  Speaker 1: she put words in the mouths of our founding fathers.
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  Speaker 2: The only problem is.
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  Speaker 1: There's receipts of what they actually believed, and we fact
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  Speaker 1: check her on exactly how ridiculous some of her comments were.
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  Speaker 1: Up next, the Virginia scotis Jerry mannering reversal that has
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  Speaker 1: rocked the entire country. So what does it actually mean
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  Speaker 1: and how is this going to affect the midterm elections?
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  Speaker 1: And finally President Trump heads to China. What is coming
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  Speaker 1: out of that meaning in Beijing? And could we see
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  Speaker 1: the releasing of political prisoners from the US. It's the
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  Speaker 1: weekend review and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: The Declaration of Independence that that was the birthday of
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  Speaker 3: our nation, and it was Thomas Jefferson who penned the
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  Speaker 3: immortal words. We hold these truths to be self evident,
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  Speaker 3: that all men are created equal, and that they are
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  Speaker 3: endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among
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  Speaker 3: these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That declaration,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, declaring our independence not from billionaires but
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  Speaker 3: from oppressive government from King George. That was the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of our nation. And then some twenty years later the
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  Speaker 3: United States Constitution, which created our democracy. I mean, if
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  Speaker 3: you want to look at the moment that our democracy
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  Speaker 3: was created, it was the delegates in Constitution Hall in
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia who drafted the constitution, who set up our system
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  Speaker 3: of government, and then the states that had to ratify it,
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  Speaker 3: and once it was ratified, it went into effect.
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  Speaker 2: That is what is created our democracy. Now.
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  Speaker 3: If she were speaking precisely, what she could have said
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  Speaker 3: is when our democracy was created, it was imperfect and
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  Speaker 3: we had to travel a journey to move towards greater equality.
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  Speaker 3: That statement is on equivocally right. It is true, accurate.
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  Speaker 3: When our nation was created, African Americans in half the
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  Speaker 3: country were slaves. They had no right to vote, women
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  Speaker 3: had no right to vote. On the question of slavery,
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  Speaker 3: I've said many times slavery is the original sin of America.
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  Speaker 3: It was a grotesque evil. I will point out though,
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  Speaker 3: that how did we abolish slavery? Look, we abolish slavery
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  Speaker 3: number one. The person who did it was Abraham Lincoln,
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  Speaker 3: the very first Republican president. Our party was created in
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  Speaker 3: order to defeat slavery. That was the purpose, that's the
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  Speaker 3: origin of the Republican Party. The Democrat Party, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: virtually its entire tenure defended say it slavery, and fought
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  Speaker 3: ferociously in favor of slavery. But the way the abolitionists
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  Speaker 3: in the Republican Party successfully abolished slavery was not by
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  Speaker 3: attacking our founding principles, not by attacking the Constitution, not
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  Speaker 3: by attacking the Declaration, but rather by appealing to those
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  Speaker 3: principles by saying, we are not living up. When Jefferson
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  Speaker 3: wrote the words all men are created equal, that statement
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  Speaker 3: is on its face, completely incompatible with slavery. Jefferson knew
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  Speaker 3: that he was brilliant, and he was putting into place.
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  Speaker 3: I believe I agree with doctor Martin Luther King who said,
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  Speaker 3: the arc of history is long, but it bends towards
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  Speaker 3: justice but AOC and this is true with the squad
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  Speaker 3: and with all of the communists on the left. They're
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  Speaker 3: so ignorant that everything I just said there they don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They're told that the American Revolution was a communist revolution
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  Speaker 3: against the billionaires, that the answer is more government power,
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  Speaker 3: and they repeat things like black Americans gave us democracy,
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  Speaker 3: which is just simply not accurate. The civil rights movement
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  Speaker 3: was one of the greatest democratic movements in our nation's history,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, points to the Civil Rights Act.
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  Speaker 2: Look Civil Rights Act.
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  Speaker 3: Far more Republicans, a much greater percentage of Republicans in
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  Speaker 3: Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Her
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  Speaker 3: party opposed the Civil Rights Act, the majority of them.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yes, we're on a journey, but the left,
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  Speaker 3: they're ignorance. It is a close battle, which predominates ideology
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  Speaker 3: or ignorance, But they're both intertwined and they're both fundamentally wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, AOC was not done there. She
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  Speaker 1: also had another pretty interesting line. She made it very
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  Speaker 1: clear that she wanted to say something about illegal immigrants
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  Speaker 1: and saying through fear mongering that once they're all deported,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to come after other groups referring to Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, we now have a paramilitary force,
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  Speaker 4: we don't have a court system, right, they don't need
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  Speaker 4: they don't think they need judicial warrants, so you don't
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  Speaker 4: get to process. So you start creating this black box system.
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  Speaker 4: Point a finger, whether it's like again like we saw
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  Speaker 4: in Jim Crow, whether you just point a finger and
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  Speaker 4: one hundred years ago accuse a little black boy or something,
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  Speaker 4: you can point a finger and accuse someone of that today.
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  Speaker 4: If you think when once you build that machine, that
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  Speaker 4: it's only going to be reserved to that this eats profit,
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  Speaker 4: these things Ice. It's not just ICE, it's Corcivic, it's
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  Speaker 4: Geo Group. Those are corporations that run ICE detention centers.
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  Speaker 4: They are for profit, they are traded on Wall Street.
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  Speaker 4: And what happens is that those companies and this system
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  Speaker 4: is that it does not accept anything but gross. It's
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  Speaker 4: not even good enough to be profitable. It's not even
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  Speaker 4: good enough to be profitable. You have to be more
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  Speaker 4: profitable and more profitable and more profitable. It's not enough
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  Speaker 4: to be a profitable business. You have to keep growing
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  Speaker 4: those profits. And so once they've rounded up every person
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  Speaker 4: in this country, who do you think is next?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? O, look, that is that both the classic ignorance
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  Speaker 3: and misinformation of the left. So they understand AOC supports
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  Speaker 3: a open borders, so she wants to abolish the police.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to abolish eye.
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  Speaker 3: She opposes all law enforcement that actually secures our border
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  Speaker 3: against foreign invaders, against illegal immigrants, against violent murderers, rapists, child.
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  Speaker 2: Molesters, and gangbangers.
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  Speaker 3: And her position has consistently been let all of them
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  Speaker 3: out of jail. But at the same time she wants
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  Speaker 3: to tell her very ill informed supporters, if there are
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  Speaker 3: detention centers that are used for illegal immigrants, that are
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  Speaker 3: used for violent criminals, those will be you used by
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  Speaker 3: government against you. And part of what is really astonishing
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  Speaker 3: is is if you look throughout history, in almost every
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  Speaker 3: instance where there been mass detention centers, it's been the
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  Speaker 3: left that has put them in place. You look at
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  Speaker 3: whether it is the Soviet gulags where communist imprisoned millions.
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  Speaker 3: You look at Joseph Stalin, you know, you read Soulshinicha
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  Speaker 3: and the Gulag Archipelago and talks about the incredible miseries
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  Speaker 3: of communism imprisoning millions in prisons. You look at my
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  Speaker 3: father's home country of Cuba and the prisons that are
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  Speaker 3: there right now. You look at North Korea, Cuba's communist
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  Speaker 3: Soviet Union was communists. North Korea's communists. You have gulags there.
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  Speaker 3: You look at China, China today has over a million
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  Speaker 3: wigers who are religious minorities, who are in concentration camps.
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  Speaker 3: It's the largest instance of human slavery on the face
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  Speaker 3: of the planet.
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  Speaker 2: That is, I mean, it's China.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, you look at World War Two
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  Speaker 3: the Nazis, so leftists liked to paint the Nazis as right,
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  Speaker 3: but let's be clear, Nazis were national socialists.
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  Speaker 2: That was their policy.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Nazi stands for is national socialists. The economic
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  Speaker 3: policy of the left is what the Nazis believed in
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  Speaker 3: government control. And I do want to be clear, it's
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  Speaker 3: not just historical leftists who have imposed concentration cancer. Let
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  Speaker 3: me be very clear. I think slavery is wrong. Concentration
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  Speaker 3: camps are wrong. Detention camps. By the way, in the
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  Speaker 3: United States, which president created detention camps and detained American citizens.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go where it was a democrat? Is
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  Speaker 1: I just want to be clear about this.
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  Speaker 2: It is a democrat.
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  Speaker 3: It was FDR who set up internment camps for Japanese
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  Speaker 3: Americans who were American citizens and in turn thousands of
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  Speaker 3: them forcibly detained them during World War Two. That was
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  Speaker 3: a Democrat, by the way she told talks about Jim Crow.
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  Speaker 3: She probably doesn't know this, but do you know who
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  Speaker 3: wrote the Jim Crow laws? That would be Democrats?
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  Speaker 2: Here is that. Do you know who.
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  Speaker 3: Funded who funded and founded the KKK?
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  Speaker 2: That would be Democrats.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to read to give you something recent
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, there was an Iowa based field organizer
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  Speaker 3: for Bernie Sanders's campaign who was caught on tape discussing
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  Speaker 3: the need for quote, re education camps for people who
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  Speaker 3: did not support Bernie Sanders, particularly for Trump supporters. So
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  Speaker 3: AOC it is her side that has advocated we're going
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  Speaker 3: to put the people we disagree with in camps. In
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  Speaker 3: some level, that's not shocking because the left has always
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  Speaker 3: been willing. If you support government power, you are willing
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  Speaker 3: to use that government power to lock up everyone who
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  Speaker 3: disagrees with you. And there's something fundamentally different between locking
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  Speaker 3: up a violent criminal locking up someone who has violated
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  Speaker 3: the law. That is protecting the community, that's protecting our citizens,
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  Speaker 3: that is upholding the rule of law. There's something fundamentally
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  Speaker 3: different between that and rounding up and locking up lawful citizens.
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  Speaker 3: And in history, virtually the only people to have done
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  Speaker 3: so have been leftists, have been communists like AOC. And
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  Speaker 3: yet look, I do think she studied Sololensky's rules for radicals.
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  Speaker 3: She starts and throughout accuses her opponents of doing that
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  Speaker 3: which she would do. And look, these interviews truth matters.
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  Speaker 3: And let me say this as a final point, this
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  Speaker 3: is a big part of the reason we do these podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: It is to.
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  Speaker 3: Actually engage and give you the substance. Because if someone
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  Speaker 3: is a young person and they're listening to AOC and
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  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, oh, yeah, the American Revolution fought to
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  Speaker 3: overcome the billionaires. We got to stop those billionaires. This
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  Speaker 3: podcast is here to give you the facts and information
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  Speaker 3: to push back on that dishonest and ignorant indoctrination.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Let's
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  Speaker 1: move on to Virginia real quick, and this one is
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  Speaker 1: also a very interesting story. Democrats, when they tell you
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  Speaker 1: they're crazy and they hate this country, and they hate
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  Speaker 1: our laws and our rules like believe them. Democrats now
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  Speaker 1: are threatening to boot the entire Virginia Supreme Court. And
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  Speaker 1: let's explain how we got to this point, center, because
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  Speaker 1: it's this is a warning of us coming in with
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  Speaker 1: our US Supreme Court. They want to get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: They want to pack it. Every time they get a
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  Speaker 1: ruling they don't like. It doesn't matter. There is no
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  Speaker 1: law in order anymore in the Democratic Party. They don't
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  Speaker 1: get their way. We just dismantle the Supreme Court, dismantle
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  Speaker 1: the constitution, get rid of everybody in our way.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, the Virginia State Legislature sadly as Democrat. The governor,
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  Speaker 3: Abigail Spamberger ran as a moderate. She actually ran saying
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  Speaker 3: Jerry Mannering is wrong. We should oppose Jerry Manderin.
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  Speaker 2: She got elected.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Abigail Spamberger is a object lesson
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  Speaker 3: for elections across the country. The Democrats who run as
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  Speaker 3: moderates are lying to you. Every word she said on
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  Speaker 3: the campaign trail was a lie. She got in as
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  Speaker 3: this hard left zealot. She immediately stopped cooperating with federal
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  Speaker 3: law enforcements, started releasing illegal immigrants, violent criminals into Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: She began proposing new taxes on just about everything you
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  Speaker 3: can imagine. And when it came to redistricting the current
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  Speaker 3: map in Virginia, there are eleven House members in Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Six of them are Democrats, five of them are Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: That's about right. Virginia is a purple state. Glen youngin
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  Speaker 3: Or Republican, was the previous governor. In the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: four election, Kamala Harris won Virginia, but by just a
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  Speaker 3: few points, so six' five was about right in terms
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  Speaker 3: of where the state was. Divided but The, democrats for,
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  Speaker 3: them power is the number one, objective and so they
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  Speaker 3: rammed through an emergency redistricting plan that took the map
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  Speaker 3: from six' five democrat to Ten. One democrat and they
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  Speaker 3: told the roughly forty five Percent of virginians Who, vote
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  Speaker 3: republican you no longer. Get representation we're going to disenfranchise
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  Speaker 3: you because all we care about. Is power and basically
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  Speaker 3: they drew these horrible maps where Much, of virginia the
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  Speaker 3: rural parts are, bright red and you've Got, northern virginia
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  Speaker 3: which ARE basically, dc suburbs which are a bunch of,
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  Speaker 3: government employees many of whom are, very liberal and so
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  Speaker 3: they drew these maps where most of the districts reached Into,
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  Speaker 3: northern virginia grabbed a bunch of government bureaucrats and used
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  Speaker 3: them as left wing voters to turn the rest of the. District,
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  Speaker 3: blue well the problem is they got challenged, in court
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  Speaker 3: and initially a trial judge ruled that the redistricting was
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  Speaker 3: illegal Under The Virginia. State constitution that got appealed To
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  Speaker 3: The Virginia. Supreme court Now The Virginia, supreme court the Justices.
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  Speaker 3: Are democrats they were put on There. By democrats they
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  Speaker 3: were Confirmed by. Democrat Legislatures The Virginia supreme court. Last,
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  Speaker 3: week shockingly most observers, were astonished looked At The Virginia
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  Speaker 3: state constitution, and, said hey what the legislature did here,
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  Speaker 3: was illegal and they struck. It down by, the way
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  Speaker 3: The Previous attorney General, Of Virginia Republican, jason miarez had
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  Speaker 3: written an, opinion saying Under The, virginia constitution you can't.
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  Speaker 3: Do this this is contrary. To, law now when, That
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  Speaker 3: happened Democrats in washington their heads exploded because this was
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  Speaker 3: critical to their. Seizing power, since then they have called for.
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  Speaker 3: Number one they've called for putting a mandatory retirement Age
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  Speaker 3: in virginia On The supreme court of. Fifty four their
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  Speaker 3: entire purpose is to throw every justice On The supreme
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  Speaker 3: court off so they could pack them with left wing
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  Speaker 3: activists who were uphold.
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  Speaker 2: The redistrictym.
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  Speaker 3: They have also talked about just fundamentally Overturning So, mark
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  Speaker 3: elias who is the hardcore Left wing democrat lawyer who
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  Speaker 3: brings all of these incredibly. Partisan decisions any Time of
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  Speaker 3: republicans elected in, Close Election mark elias files a lawsuit
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  Speaker 3: seeking to overturn the. Voter's will he is one of
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  Speaker 3: the most rabid partisans in. The country he tweeted out
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  Speaker 3: a quote From The virginia, constitution quote whenever any government
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  Speaker 3: shall be found inadequate or contrary to, these purposes a
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  Speaker 3: majority of the commune unity hath, an, indubitable inalienable and
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  Speaker 3: indefeasible right, to, reform alter or abolish it in such
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  Speaker 3: a manner as shall be judged most conducive to the
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  Speaker 3: Public wheel and to, be clear what he is, SAYING
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  Speaker 3: is i don't like What The Virginia supreme court concluded
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  Speaker 3: even Though. They're democrats so abolish the government of the State.
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  Speaker 3: Of virginia that's how radical these. Zealots are and by,
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  Speaker 3: the way you combine that with the recent decision OF. The.
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  Speaker 3: U S supreme court that concluded that racial gerrymandering, is
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  Speaker 3: unconstitutional that, drawing lines drawing congressional, lines discriminating saying we're
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  Speaker 3: going to put people of one race in, the district
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  Speaker 3: take people of another race out of, the district that.
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  Speaker 3: That's unconstitutional it had been an open question whether complying
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  Speaker 3: With The Voting rights act was essentially an exception to
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  Speaker 3: the constitutional prohibition on racial, jerry mandary And The supreme
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  Speaker 3: court included six, Y, three no it is not That,
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  Speaker 3: the constitution The, fourteenth amendment The, fifteenth amendment prohibit discrimination based,
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  Speaker 3: on race prohibit voting discrimination based. ON race i think
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  Speaker 3: that is the right reading Of. The constitution And the
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  Speaker 3: democrats have lost their ever, loving mind, because, understand look,
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  Speaker 3: all right All Of. New england you take the States
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  Speaker 3: In new england And, the northeast which vote anywhere from
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  Speaker 3: Sixty forty democrat to sixty five to Thirty five democrat
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  Speaker 3: depending on. The state How many republicans do you think
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  Speaker 3: are elected.
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  Speaker 2: In All Of.
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  Speaker 3: New england i'm going to go with, zero zero be
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  Speaker 3: right in state After state, Massachusetts zero, Maine zero, Vermont
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  Speaker 3: Zero new, Hampshire Zero rhode, Island zero. Connecticut zero, that
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  Speaker 3: is they just jerrymandered the heck out, of it and
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  Speaker 3: they have one hundred percent of The. Representation democrat In,
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  Speaker 3: The south democrats have Used The Voting rights act, to
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  Speaker 3: insist if you can draw a district that Elects An African,
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  Speaker 3: american democrat you must Elect. That, democrat now the bizarre
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: thing is We've seen democrats who, also insist and one
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  Speaker 3: of the more absurd things, they've, said well in light
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  Speaker 3: Of The spring court decision that discriminating based on race,
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  Speaker 3: is unconstitutional You've seen Democrats Saying south carolina will never
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  Speaker 3: ever Elect An african American. To, CONGRESS now i have
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  Speaker 3: to admit when, THAT happened i Pulled. OUT twitter i
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: like when you.
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  Speaker 1: Get your little snarky tweets. OUT there i knew as
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  Speaker 1: SOON as I said i was waiting for a countdown
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  Speaker 1: clock until you did what. YOU did i could have
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  Speaker 1: predicted that tweet and a. Moment's notice as SOON as
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  Speaker 1: I saw i, WAS like i, can't wait and then
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  Speaker 1: you did it to.
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  Speaker 2: Keep, GOING yeah, i, said hey groc Who Is? Tim?
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  Speaker 3: Scott yeah and Why did democrats believe he's? Not Black So? Tim,
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  Speaker 3: Scott Yeah tim scott is my colleague In.
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  Speaker 2: The Senate He's.
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  Speaker 3: African american he was Elected to congress To a house
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  Speaker 3: District In. South carolina then he Became. A senator he's
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: been re elected over and over and over Again In,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: south carolina and yet To, the democrats he does not
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  Speaker 3: count as black because if You're, a republican suddenly, you're
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: white it. Doesn't matter and mind you and. Their view
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: and by, The, way tennessee your. Home state, oh dude
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  Speaker 3: this is the.
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  Speaker 1: Best One, steve cohen who's like the whitest guy you'll.
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  Speaker 1: Ever see he doesn't, like me by, the way he
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  Speaker 1: was my congressman for. Many years they were LOSING on
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  Speaker 1: tv other DAY and i got to smack some of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: them around because they, were saying you're taking away, this
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  Speaker 1: Seat That african americans are, being Distringe and, i'm like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: hold on. A Second steve cohen is like, the, whitest
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  Speaker 1: old cranky white guy you've.
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  Speaker 3: Ever met but he's A, liberal democrat so he's A.
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  Speaker 2: Our government, that is that's.
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  Speaker 1: Just sad, as before if you want to hear the
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  Speaker 1: rest of this conversation on, this topic you can go
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  Speaker 1: back and dow the podcast from earlier this week to
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  Speaker 1: hear the. ENTIRE thing i want to get back to
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  Speaker 1: the big story number three of. The week you may,
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  Speaker 1: have missed, All, RIGHT senata i want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the president's big Trip, to china and specifically you add,
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  Speaker 1: some notes, some requests some advocacy For some americans that
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: are being held and this was a really big moment
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  Speaker 1: that people should be.
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  Speaker 3: Talking, about yeah so this was a meaningful. Legislative week
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  Speaker 3: we've already talked about the. Two victories we Had The
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Senate judiciary committee passing TWO bills. I authored we had
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  Speaker 3: a third victory On the, senate floor which is The
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  Speaker 3: entire senate passed a RESOLUTION that i authored Along With,
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  Speaker 3: Dick durbin Democrat, from illinois Concerning The president's china trip
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  Speaker 3: and in particular urging the president to prioritize the release of,
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  Speaker 3: political prisoners the release of people who are wrongfully Imprisoned,
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  Speaker 3: in China Including, jimmy lai who's the great democracy Activist In.
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  Speaker 3: HONG kong I Met jimmy lai when WHEN when i
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  Speaker 3: Traveled To, HONG kong i met.
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  Speaker 2: With him his health.
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  Speaker 3: Is failing he is being imprisoned Because The chinese communist
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  Speaker 3: government views him as a threat to their. COMMUNIST depression
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  Speaker 3: uh and and then also focusing On the christian pastors
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  Speaker 3: And Including Pastor ezra's in who have, been targeted who have.
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  Speaker 3: Been arrested china has been cracking Down on. Christian pastors
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  Speaker 3: And So dick DURBIN and i together introduced. This resolution
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  Speaker 3: we took it To the senate floor and this week
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  Speaker 3: it passed one hundred. To nothing so The, entire senate
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  Speaker 3: with a, bipartisan voice Urged the president prioritize the releasing
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  Speaker 3: of these. Political prisoners it.
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  Speaker 1: Matters how much, POLITICAL uh i think pressure in a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: positive way does that create for the conversation? That happened
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  Speaker 1: because when when when when you meet with an Adversary,
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  Speaker 1: Like china and if you've ever been around, THESE meetings
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  Speaker 1: i was around a couple, of them And the bush is.
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  Speaker 1: SECOND term a lot of it is very. Much scripted
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  Speaker 1: You Have state department that gets with their equivalent Of The.
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  Speaker 1: State department they decide what will and will not be
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  Speaker 1: talked about the table and. These meetings but when you
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  Speaker 1: have one hundred and, nothing vote You Have, dick durbin
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  Speaker 1: you Have you and is that GIVING the amo extra
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  Speaker 1: To the president, saying hey you've got all Of The
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  Speaker 1: United states congress. Behind you it gives you a reason
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  Speaker 1: even if you need to, in essence to break protocol
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  Speaker 1: on what's been agreed to in the meetings, and, say
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  Speaker 1: hey this just happened and we got to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About.
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  Speaker 3: It, yeah no that's. Exactly right and this is SOMETHING
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  Speaker 3: when i put this resolution on, The floor i'm working
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  Speaker 3: in coordination With The, white house with, the administration And
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: the president had already indicated an openness to raising these.
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  Speaker 3: Political prisoners and what this does is give him. Additional
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  Speaker 3: ammunition it lets him Say, to, ji Look the senate
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  Speaker 3: one hundred. To nothing we may have political disagreements in
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  Speaker 3: our country and, other topics but not. On this every Every,
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  Speaker 3: single senator from the most conservative to the, most liberal
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  Speaker 3: they're all on the. Same PAGE and i use an
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: example that's actually a very, similar circumstance Which Is. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Swedan So mark swedan uh Is a texan who was
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: wrongfully Imprisoned in china for over. Ten years he was thrown,
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  Speaker 3: in prison his health, failed BADLY and i led the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: fight In the senate for years To Free, mark swedan
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  Speaker 3: including sitting down With the chinese ambassador in one, on
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  Speaker 3: one leaning in, very hard Trying urging china to, release
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  Speaker 3: him that that civilized countries don't keep. Political Prisoners joe
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  Speaker 3: biden was president during much of, this time AND so
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  Speaker 3: i Repeatedly Pressured president biden And The state department To Raise.
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  Speaker 3: Mark Swedan mark sweden's mom is it Lives. IN texas
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  Speaker 3: i talked to her, multiple TIMES and i did the.
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  Speaker 3: SAME thing i introduced a resolution calling for the Release Of,
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  Speaker 3: mark swedan and it Passed the senate just like this
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  Speaker 3: one did one hundred and nothing that gives, real force
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  Speaker 3: and it Ended Up joe biden followed through and. Pressed
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  Speaker 3: It The state department, followed through and finally the pressure
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  Speaker 3: was Enough that China Released. Mark swedan so he is
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  Speaker 3: no longer In a. Chinese prison he has. Been released he.
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  Speaker 3: Came back, in fact he came to. MY office i
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  Speaker 3: had the opportunity to meet him and. Embrace him and
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  Speaker 3: this is someone who FOR years i was speaking his
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  Speaker 3: name and demanding. His release and it's, you know often
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  Speaker 3: when you're dealing with with with a government Like The chinese,
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  Speaker 3: communist government it's a question of ratcheting up pressure and
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  Speaker 3: any one step typically is. Not enough but the more
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  Speaker 3: pressure you, put on the more leverage you, put on
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  Speaker 3: the more likely they are. To comply so, you know
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  Speaker 3: here's what the, resolution said expressing the sense Of the
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  Speaker 3: senate That the president should prioritize securing the Release Of Pastor,
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  Speaker 3: Jin Mengri Pastor guau guangfu and, His, Wife Pangju, jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Lai Doctor gulshan Abbas And ek perasat detained By The
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  Speaker 3: people's Republic of china during future Engagements With Chinese. President
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  Speaker 3: shijingping whereas the government Of The people's Republic of china Has,
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  Speaker 3: Arrested chinese American and british citizens for the peaceful expression
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  Speaker 3: of free speech, or religion or such acts by, Family
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  Speaker 3: members whereas such arrests have been widely condemned by the
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  Speaker 3: international community and human, rights organizations with repeated calls for
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  Speaker 3: the release of. The, detainees Whereas on, may seventeenth twenty,
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  Speaker 3: Twenty Five Pastor Gau guang kwangfu Of the Light Of
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  Speaker 3: zion Church In xian city was detained and is being
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  Speaker 3: held on charges of quote using superstitious activities to undermine
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  Speaker 3: the implementation. Of law in, other words Being a christian
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  Speaker 3: is what they're holding him for all also. Quote Fraud
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  Speaker 3: Whereas pastor, guo's Wife, pang yu who was subsequently Detained on,
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  Speaker 3: june seventh twenty, twenty five remains held despite holding no
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  Speaker 3: official position in the church and has been denied access
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  Speaker 3: to critical. Prescription medication whereas Honor about, october tenth twenty,
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  Speaker 3: twenty five authorities Of The people's Republic of China Detained,
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  Speaker 3: pastor jinmingri Founder Of, zion church along with other church
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  Speaker 3: leaders on equally dubious charges of quote illegal uses of,
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  Speaker 3: Information Networks Whereas pastor jin continues to be detained without
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  Speaker 3: access to critical medications to treat diabetes or contact with
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  Speaker 3: family members In The people's Republic of china And The.
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  Speaker 3: United states Whereas on, november seventh twenty, twenty Five the
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  Speaker 3: senate Unanimously Passed senate resolution four six' three calling for
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  Speaker 3: the immediate nonconditional release of all Detained Members, of Zion
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  Speaker 3: Church including pastor jin and, by the way that was
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  Speaker 3: my resolution AS well that i introduced in, passed last
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  Speaker 3: year and for the Government Of the People's republic of
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  Speaker 3: china to end harassment and intimidations of The Relatives of
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  Speaker 3: zion church members. And their relatives whereas in, Nineteen Ninety
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  Speaker 3: five jimmy Lai Founded the apple Daily Newspaper in hong
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  Speaker 3: kong and subsequently faced repeated, harassment and arrest including a
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  Speaker 3: sixty nine month sentence in twenty twenty two on dubious
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  Speaker 3: fraud charges that, were later overturned and a subsequent twenty
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  Speaker 3: Year sentence in february twenty twenty six on dubious. National
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  Speaker 3: security Charges whereas in december, Twenty Twenty Five president donald
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  Speaker 3: trump said He Had asked Chinese president shi jingping To Consider.
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  Speaker 3: Releasing jimmy Lai whereas, on december fourth, Twenty Twenty five
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  Speaker 3: house resolution nine thirty Was Introduced commemorating jimmy lai and
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  Speaker 3: calling On Authorities the People's republic of china to immediately
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  Speaker 3: and Uncan Tunditionally released jimmy lai And All other hong
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  Speaker 3: kong pro democracy. Advocates in prisons and it goes on
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  Speaker 3: there are a whole series more. Of whereas provisions but
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  Speaker 3: then it says Resolved that the senate Calls upon the
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  Speaker 3: president to prioritize securing the Humanitarian Release Of, Pastor Jin
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  Speaker 3: Mingri Pastor guau gao kwanfu, And, His Wife, pangyu Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: lai doctor Gulsham Abas, and ek perasat and other wrongfully
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  Speaker 3: detained individuals on the agenda For engagements With, president shi
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  Speaker 3: jingping Including the anticipated may twenty, twenty sixth summit And
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: urges the president to seek verifiable proof of life and
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  Speaker 3: access to, independent legal, counsel family communication and medical care,
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  Speaker 3: for such detainees and reaffirms the Commitment Of the united
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  Speaker 3: states to defend political and. Religious, freedoms worldwide incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It really, is and look this, is a ministry, as
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  Speaker 1: you know that has really been About getting back americans all.
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  Speaker 1: Over the world they've made. It a prayer it's.
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  Speaker 3: A Great success president trump is very effective at this and.
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  Speaker 1: That's THE reason why i think it's gonna be very
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see what comes out. Of this quickly what
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is your definition of success of overall this Big. Meeting,
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  Speaker 1: with china.
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  Speaker 3: Look it depends there are a number Of Things that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: president trump is. Trying to accomplish one of the things
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  Speaker 3: he's trying to do Is to get china To, assist
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: With iran and china is the Main purchaser, of iranian
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Oil and so china could exert a lot Of, leverage
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: over Iran and the president is urging she To lean
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: on iran in particular to hand over, there enriched geranium,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: to stop enriching to, stop funding terrorism and To open The. Straight,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: OF hormuz secondly I think the president is also.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Working To open.
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  Speaker 3: The, chinese market, so for example it's been Reported now
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that china agreed to Buy two. Hundred boeing planes that's.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: A Big deal the president is fighting for farmers and
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: ranchers to get our crops and Our, livestock into china
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  Speaker 3: and HE'S fighting for us manufacturers and so He's fighting
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: for American. Jobs in china He's fighting for american National.
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  Speaker 3: Security in china and he's Also fighting for china to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: do the right thing and release these these wrongfully. Detained political, prisoners.
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