Latest / Cinema Yūgen / 23 Years Later: Uwe Boll Storms Back — Return to Zombie Island
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- 0:00G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for... CINEMA! YOOGEEEAAAAAAA!
- 1:07Welcome back, Yugenites in a world that demanded apologies. He threw punches.
- 1:14They called him reckless. They called him the worst. They tried to bury his
- 1:19name under punchlines and petitions.
- 1:22Ua Bol answered with films, with fists, with fire.
- 1:27From the chaos of House of the Dead through the infamy of Alone in the Dark
- 1:32and Blood Rain to the fury of Rampage, Tunnel Rats and Da'afor.
- 1:37Bol never bent, he endured.
- 1:40When the critics came, he stepped into the ring.
- 1:43When the industry turned away, he kept making movies. When the world said retire,
- 1:48he vanished, only to return.
- 1:50Now the architect of Cinematic Rebellion reclaims, or returns to reclaim,
- 1:56the island doctor, Uwe Bol, enters Cinema Yugen to unleash.
- 2:0123 years later the return of
- 2:04zombie island a resurrection born
- 2:08of cult loyalty indie defiance and
- 2:11an unfinished war this is not nostalgia this
- 2:14is not forgiveness this is legacy sharpened into
- 2:18a blade cult cinnamon never dies get over
- 2:21to the indiegogo now and join the journey
- 2:2423 years later a return to zombie
- 2:28island and now yugenites welcome
- 2:31him back to cinema yugen the
- 2:34legend dr ua bone yeah
- 2:39hi thanks for having me again time goes by
- 2:42fast right so mate time flies when you're having fun the last time we spoke
- 2:47you were you were out of movies and becoming a restaurateur but as I said before
- 2:53we started recording thank goodness the movie gods have smiled down and you
- 2:57couldn't stay on the sidelines too long and I'm glad you're back.
- 3:02Yeah, restaurant is nice, but it was not enough for me to say,
- 3:09okay, I will do this now forever.
- 3:11I mean, I wanted to make movies since I'm 10, then I made a lot of movies,
- 3:14and I felt after four years, no, I have to keep making movies.
- 3:20And then came the whole COVID stuff, you know, that delayed a lot in a way.
- 3:27But then I jumped in with First Shift with a cop drama from New York and Run
- 3:33with Amanda Plummer and Citizen Vigilante with Armie Hammer.
- 3:37It still has to come out an action film.
- 3:41And now I felt House of the Dead. I felt two, three different things at the
- 3:45same time with House of the Dead.
- 3:47Now a lot of video games are basically the hot shit now.
- 3:52So everybody is doing video game-based movies or TV series.
- 3:56And a lot of people I talked to said, look, you paved the way for us, blah, blah, blah.
- 4:01And I said, but I didn't get any credit for it. And I got bashed into the ground for it.
- 4:07I'm like, oh, that's great. You just buckets of shit for it.
- 4:10Yes you know and then i read that the
- 4:13sega wants to do with paul anderson a house
- 4:17of the dead movie like a 50 million dollar big house of the
- 4:19dead movie and i was very mad about it you know
- 4:22i felt like okay why not using me why not
- 4:25doing something with me and just going with paul anderson who made also a lot
- 4:32of video game best movies but different style right so and i felt like house
- 4:37of the dead over the years turned into kind of a cult movie because it was a little campy,
- 4:43nudity you know like this kind of horror movies
- 4:47they have you have fun to watch not horror
- 4:50movies but what makes you totally depressed in a way and
- 4:53you know and this kind of horror movies in a way like scream
- 4:57or whatever you know where you have like this kind of
- 5:00a good time watching it and there are not so many anymore like that so i felt
- 5:05okay okay if they don't want me then i asked the cast from from house of the
- 5:10dead the original cast jonathan sherry or nagrawa would you come back would
- 5:15you do it again basically right so and they said yes we do.
- 5:20So, of course, the title makes fun out of 28 years later, but it is 23 years
- 5:26later since House of the Dead.
- 5:28Yeah, sure. Well, why not playing the name then?
- 5:31If I cannot name it House of the Dead, if I do 23 years later and return to
- 5:37Zombie Island, I think it makes sense.
- 5:41And I felt, let's have the fans participate. You know,
- 5:45that I don't have to erase maybe so much money with pre-sales and everything
- 5:49that I can have like perks out there and people buy the way into the movie to
- 5:54be into the movie as zombies or buy pre-buy a DVD, a Blu-ray, whatever.
- 5:58So as a part of the financing, and that goes out now on Indigo Go,
- 6:03we were supposed to be out today, but we had technical problems there when we
- 6:09were loading it up, the perks.
- 6:11It's like you have to load it all up, but then you cannot release the perks in one junk, basically.
- 6:18So you have to release like two, three perks every three days.
- 6:22And we didn't put that in the computer, basically.
- 6:26And that's what we're doing right now so that hopefully tomorrow
- 6:29it's out there and people can actually buy
- 6:32some cars cool yeah no i definitely yeah i
- 6:35definitely know i'll be going over because when i when i usually support
- 6:38these campaigns i usually just buy uh or
- 6:41or pre-order the the dvd or whatever the however it's going to come out because
- 6:47i'm one of those old school guys i still like to go to the shelf and and and
- 6:51get it and that way i don't have to worry about if it's on netflix or or whoever's
- 6:56streaming it i've got it over on the shelf there so i uh i know that it's,
- 7:00No, I'm a big fan of various of my hard drives were dead in the end,
- 7:06you know, and everything I taped was gone.
- 7:08But if you have a Blu-ray or DVD, it stays basically forever,
- 7:13you know, and you have the making of, you have the trailer.
- 7:16And I'm kind of famous for my director commentaries.
- 7:20Yes. So, you know, and I'm mad that the director commentaries are in a lot of
- 7:27countries not existing anymore. That's true.
- 7:31Because they don't do the DVDs anymore. And in Germany, we still do Blu-rays
- 7:35and DVDs and my commentaries are on.
- 7:37And I always tell them, put my English one on too, not only the German-speaking
- 7:41one, because a lot of countries, they cannot get the DVD at all.
- 7:46So they can at least, and they don't understand German, so they at least can
- 7:50buy the German one maybe on Amazon and have the English commentary on it.
- 7:55They make very nice steelbooks there in Germany.
- 8:00The discs yeah and media books and
- 8:03so on it's still like what the lp is
- 8:05for music is is here still the blu-ray and
- 8:09i mean of course the market shrinked brutally
- 8:12but that u.s basically dropped
- 8:15the ball on it it's very hard you
- 8:18know so and most of the what i'm doing now
- 8:21with a lot of my older titles and also with
- 8:24first shift we want to do this i exclude the
- 8:28dvd blu-ray rights from the u.s deal i'm
- 8:31doing so whoever buys it i say look i
- 8:34keep that right and we're not coming out first with the blu-ray but we will
- 8:38come out with the blu-ray because there are a lot of boutique little blu-ray
- 8:42companies you know like and they're happy to get my movies and they do like
- 8:47more media books and say look it's 880 limited edition signed by uber you know stuff like this and.
- 8:55In earlier years, you gave the rights away for territory and all the rights were gone.
- 9:00And then I recognized they never do anything with the Blu-ray.
- 9:03They're not releasing it.
- 9:04And then you ask them, can I get the rights back? And they're like,
- 9:07no, we have it, right? And that's where I changed this now with all the new deals.
- 9:13Also, Statistics and Vigilante will have a media book and a DVD release, a Blu-ray release.
- 9:19That's the way, that's the way to go. Was it, was it an easy,
- 9:24was it an easy decision going back to a film that's kind of a bit like,
- 9:30is known a little bit like your sort of Baron Munchausen, your House of the
- 9:35Dead is kind of like a film that like Munchausen followed Terry Gilliam around for years.
- 9:41Was it an easy decision to want to go back to it for this 23 years later,
- 9:47or did you take some convincing?
- 9:49No, I mean, there is, let's say, properties I have a positive feeling about.
- 9:56And House of Zedet, even if it started the bad reviews about me,
- 10:00you know, it was fun to shoot that.
- 10:03We had a great time shooting it.
- 10:06Jürgen Perotno, Clint Howard, we all had a great time shooting it because it
- 10:09was kind of silly, right?
- 10:11We did that funny version of it, too, because we were in the mood making jokes about all of this.
- 10:16And I enjoyed it And I think to do something again like this Would make me happy You know,
- 10:24so There are movies where you have like You're disappointed about the Maybe
- 10:29the success of the movie Or disappointed about the reviews But when you remember
- 10:34the shoot Then you feel very good about it You know,
- 10:38like all three Blood Rain movies The shoots were horrible They were horrible
- 10:44experiences You know, that was,
- 10:46whatever called corruption like the chaos in Romania with the people wanted
- 10:52to rob us, Michael Metzner had guns, like all this stuff was always drunk.
- 10:58And the second, didn't on the second one, you nearly burnt the.
- 11:03We burned it down insurance case and life danger for a moment for everybody
- 11:10because the gas heaters exploded and it was not a good time,
- 11:16during the shoot and it was freezing cold like all three where we shot,
- 11:22but of course when you write later about it when I wrote like here in the Bermanian
- 11:26books I wrote an English kind of biography I can send you the link right so and uh.
- 11:33You write the most funny stuff About
- 11:36the shoots Who went very bad You know And
- 11:39very Like where you had A lot of accidents And stuff like
- 11:42this It reads good But House of the Dead Was
- 11:45great to shoot And was a great experience And the same was In the Name of the
- 11:50King With Jason Stassen That was really With Postal My favorite movie From the
- 11:56shooting Like from the From the actual shooting Of the movie Postal And In the
- 12:00Name of the King Are my two favorite films Of all times I made, you know,
- 12:04but would I say Dafur was better, you know Rampage, there may be the better
- 12:09movies Got better reviews, but.
- 12:12Fun was more To shoot Postal and in the name Of the king, so Yeah,
- 12:18and I mean also that Was, as I said, it turned also Into kind of a cult movie,
- 12:23we recently Showed it in Hamburg again There were 200 people in the movie theater
- 12:27And I watched it the first time on screen After 20 years And everybody had a blast
- 12:33you know and everybody was like laughing and
- 12:36like like mystery science theater style you
- 12:39know like don't go there you idiot you know
- 12:42stuff like this and yeah and i
- 12:45felt like no i'm on the right track trying to do something
- 12:48with the same actors again if the actors would not
- 12:51did it if they would pass on it i would not do
- 12:54it i would i would not not do
- 12:57like a completely new house of the dead not connected to the first
- 12:59one i would not do that but the fact
- 13:02that they all right away said of course i would do
- 13:05it it's not because they all need money i think it's
- 13:08more because they also remembered they had a good time yeah
- 13:12so so the old uh some of the old wisdom where they talk about like if the film
- 13:17was really a terrible shoot it turns out to be like a critical success doesn't
- 13:22really hold true like you can have a great time you can have a great time on
- 13:27a movie and the movie can still turn out to be critically lambasted.
- 13:32As opposed to having a really shit time and the movie could turn out to be like
- 13:37a critical darling or something like that.
- 13:40No, I 100% agree. I mean, I read
- 13:43a lot of biographies or watch docus about directors and stuff like this.
- 13:48And some people say, as you said, like the worst shoot and then you have the best product, right?
- 13:54Or you make a movie where everything's flawless and it's a total piece of shit.
- 13:59And I think, yeah, that both is real And can happen But I think also You can
- 14:04have a super smooth shoot And the result is great Right You know And you can
- 14:10have a very bad shoot And the result is a disaster So I think All that things can actually happen.
- 14:18And, you know, and that's the reality. I mean, first shift one,
- 14:22we had a total shit show in New York with our line producer fell apart.
- 14:26Then half of the crew wanted to unionize during the shoot and went on strike
- 14:31and they were gone, basically.
- 14:33And then I was my own AD, my own script girl.
- 14:37I carried the wardrobe, you know, and stuff like this. And the movie turned out good.
- 14:42I mean, but do I want that every show I do? Absolutely not.
- 14:47No. You know, it was a horrible half, after halfway through,
- 14:53that as a half, was a horrible thing because you felt every day, are we able to shoot?
- 14:59You know, is the sound guy coming? Question mark. You know, like stuff like this.
- 15:04And you don't need that a lot in your film career to have a situation like this.
- 15:10Yeah. Well, especially when you've got to write it and direct it and do everything else as well. Yeah.
- 15:16I know. I mean the only good thing It
- 15:18started like When I did my first movie German Fright movie Like
- 15:2130 years ago The only good thing is
- 15:24If you made so many movies That I basically can do
- 15:27Almost every position Right You know
- 15:31So it's like It's not like Oh the script girl Is
- 15:33not there anymore Who gives a shit Right So I
- 15:36make some notes And send it to the editing So it's not like The
- 15:39end of the shoot Because we don't know What
- 15:42to do And I mean My German cameraman Matthias
- 15:46Neumann with me and he has like two three german technicians
- 15:49with him and if the shit hits the fan they
- 15:52have to do the lightning too and they have to do the
- 15:55grip and they have you know they basically can do it all if there's nobody else
- 15:59doing it and and i think that's very important to have this center crew people
- 16:05you work with for 20 years who will never leave and who will Always perform
- 16:12Even under the biggest shit,
- 16:14Situation, you know, we're just saying No, no, no, we have to keep going here And that's very good.
- 16:21You know which is which is primarily to which
- 16:24is something that separates professionals from amateurs to
- 16:27the fact that you've been doing it so long if the
- 16:31cameraman drops out for any reason you can pick up the
- 16:33camera and shoot it yourself or edit it or
- 16:36edit it yourself or you know if you
- 16:39have to jump in and do the lines i'm pretty sure
- 16:42you could jump in and play the part if you had to couldn't you yeah i
- 16:47i try i did that a few times as a cop but uh i'm
- 16:50not an actor but if let's say there's somebody not
- 16:53coming who has two lines this i will get done right so you know like the robbers
- 16:59are in the back what should we do whatever so this i could play as a german
- 17:04cop in new york so but but in general i think it's better if i'm not acting
- 17:09too much uh yeah but that's true it's like it comes with the.
- 17:14Situation that in the first two or three movies, we did the camera.
- 17:20And I mean, now it's way easier with the digital cameras as with the 16 or 35 millimeter types.
- 17:27And so that's definitely also what I tell to younger filmmakers.
- 17:31I say, look, it was never easier to shoot a movie in a way from the technical point, right?
- 17:38So you basically don't need a lot of light anymore.
- 17:41You don't need a lot of grip you can just shoot it always a little 4k camera
- 17:46and it you can make it in post-production that it looks like a real movie so
- 17:50i mean that's the thing you know and that's the good thing for the new generation
- 17:54so um so speaking about speaking about the new generation and new beginnings.
- 18:02What is the landscape, the filmmaking landscape like since you had that break
- 18:09and then came back with sort of,
- 18:12you know, did it, I know it probably didn't change a lot, but what was the landscape
- 18:17like having gone away and then come back the way you did?
- 18:20I mean, I came back in a time where nobody was working because of Corona.
- 18:24It was easy to get people, right? So easy to get crew and also for lower money and stuff like this.
- 18:32But the landscape is basically now When I just went in November to Los Angeles
- 18:37For that film market And it's really like You have the feeling all that buyers
- 18:41Like the foreign buyers, distributors.
- 18:45They're almost the same people like 10, 15 years ago. You know a lot of faces, a lot of companies.
- 18:50But what they're doing is now they just buy the territory and sell it to the streamers.
- 18:55In earlier years, they were putting movies out themselves in the media, in the movie theaters.
- 19:01They were putting the movies out on DVD and Blu-ray.
- 19:04And then they maybe did a pay-per-view deal. And that was the thing.
- 19:09Now, they're all, I think, not buying also on a trailer. They don't buy on a trailer at all.
- 19:15They want the whole movie because they want the backup in their country.
- 19:20You know, the Japanese buyers, whatever, they go to Japan and they go there
- 19:24to Netflix and say, are you buying that for Japan if I buy it now from the producer?
- 19:30And then before they get a yes from Amazon or whoever it is,
- 19:34they're not offering any money.
- 19:36That's tough. You know, that's very tough with the sales.
- 19:39And pre-sales that you upfront sell a movie is almost impossible.
- 19:45Because only if you have like Jason Stassack or something. If you have a big
- 19:49star, you can do a pre-sale.
- 19:51But if you have like good cast, but not big, big cast, they will all say,
- 19:58good luck. When the movie is done, we watch it.
- 20:00So they leave you alone with the problematic financing situation.
- 20:05And if you go to the streamers yourself, there is basically a lot of complications
- 20:12because of their diversity.
- 20:15Like, you know, all these kind of writers you have to fulfill and all this kind
- 20:19of like algorithms they put the movies in.
- 20:22They 100% when you send a script, it goes straight into the computer and they
- 20:27just listen to what the computer says before they read it.
- 20:31You know, I'm 100% sure like they're reading the script only if the AI tells
- 20:37them that could be good, that's good for Amazon, that's good for Apple,
- 20:42Then they maybe read the script, you know?
- 20:45That's a huge problem. And I think business-wise,
- 20:49the biggest problem is that if you sell the movie to the streamers,
- 20:54like we sold First Shift, one to Paramount Plus for North America and Showtime,
- 21:00and Ratnet, I'm on a Plumber movie, also recently sold to them.
- 21:03But the problem is you get 10 cents on the dollar. You know,
- 21:07it's not like they pay you the full budget back.
- 21:10They pay you like 10% of the budget, 15% of the budget.
- 21:14So now how you want to finance the rest Like you need tax rebates You need way
- 21:19more sales Foreign sales,
- 21:21Australia had a lot of buyers In the earlier years
- 21:24Now I don't find an Australian film buyer for my
- 21:27movie You know like all their films Are not sold to Australia right now And
- 21:31it's absurd because it's English language So it's They don't have dubbing costs
- 21:37or something They just can't release it right But there are a lot of Australian
- 21:40Like Horizon I remember There were a lot of Australian buyers in the early years.
- 21:46This year at American Firmarket was none.
- 21:50Like I couldn't find one Australian buyer.
- 21:53Yeah, no, it's become very, like you say, it's become very selective and very
- 21:59boutique, as you say, unless it's the big time, unless it's the mainstream,
- 22:04unless it's the, you know.
- 22:06Or the total art house, right? It's a way where you have this,
- 22:11oh, he just won Sundance.
- 22:13And, you know, and then that gets sold because it won Sundance or it won Khan or something like this.
- 22:19And a lot of that movies, shit, to be honest.
- 22:24Like, I have the feeling like a lot of the movies who actually get into that
- 22:27film festivals, they are not entertaining at all. And they're like, you think like,
- 22:33When you later watch it, when it's on stream, you're saying,
- 22:36why are they paid five million bucks to acquire that movie?
- 22:39What was like a million bucks to shoot?
- 22:43Then at that point, they overpaid, right? So then they totally overpaid.
- 22:46Then they're releasing the movie on Netflix or whatever. And then they're like,
- 22:50oh, nobody's watching it, shit. Yeah.
- 22:53Yeah, but at least that producer got big money out of it, right?
- 22:57So because most of the stuff they're watching and then like,
- 23:00you know, we'll give you 150K for a year, take it or leave it.
- 23:05Yeah. So that when now everybody writes why in LA, the shooting days going downhill
- 23:13and New York and stuff like this.
- 23:15I think that two massive things. The one is way less independent movies getting made as earlier years.
- 23:23You know, the streamers do movies. They produce a lot.
- 23:27But still, when I talk to actors or the crew, they say it's not enough work.
- 23:31We don't have work. We don't have work.
- 23:33And that's because the independent film world is suffering and not like who
- 23:37should invest in a movie now as a private investor. You have to be ballooning to do this.
- 23:42And that's the point, that there are no more independent movies.
- 23:46So people see a decline in overall shooting.
- 23:50And the second is That the streamers Are not properly Pay anymore for a license,
- 23:59You know, they have no problem To give somebody 150 million bucks To shoot 8
- 24:03episodes of a sci-fi Stuff Right, but then you make a great movie And then shit
- 24:08Canada after one series Yes,
- 24:11you know But then you make a great movie And then like, yeah,
- 24:14okay, 200,000 dollars And you say, so you give the guy 100 million And like
- 24:19on First Shift on Paramount+, we were 20 weeks in various top 10s.
- 24:23So we didn't get a bonus.
- 24:25We didn't get like, okay, now you made 20 million views. Here is another 500,000 bucks.
- 24:31No, it's like, yeah, it's working good. And then I went back and said,
- 24:36what is with First Shift 2 and 3? We don't know.
- 24:39You know, and I mean, now they watch it because I shot it.
- 24:42They will watch it. But if everything goes like the first one,
- 24:47they will also not pay me the money back we spent, you know.
- 24:52And that's not like I'm not having any money. If I just get the money back, then I'm on zero.
- 24:58Right. So but I want money for myself, too.
- 25:01So and that's the thing. It's like it's so ridiculous that they are so cheap
- 25:05when it comes to license a film.
- 25:07Yeah i mean like you say they
- 25:10want you to go out and take all the risk and they just want
- 25:13to uh to stream it where and when
- 25:16they can as many territories as they can get
- 25:19for the lowest possible price yeah yeah and
- 25:23and i mean the people who work in the license departments they
- 25:26have that that is their job description right
- 25:30they go for the bottom feeding right you basically
- 25:33right so they're going out there and say okay i
- 25:36can buy 20 movies a year but each movie
- 25:39for 100 grand you know and then
- 25:42the other guys sitting there and deciding what
- 25:45original is getting done and then they're spending like
- 25:48even 40 million bucks for a spanish-speaking spanish
- 25:52tv movie you know like they spend so
- 25:54much money and they are all flat gates are open
- 25:57basically right and of course we made a lot of proposals
- 26:00especially to amazon and netflix over the
- 26:04years with good productions and good possible
- 26:07shows but they never gave us an order
- 26:10you know they never said okay let's do this send us the budget we make a contract
- 26:15you shoot that it never happened as a filmmaker who made who made out like a
- 26:21bandit during the sort of the dvd era is is the streaming era similar to the DVD era.
- 26:28Just no physical media, or is it completely.
- 26:31I think it's very different.
- 26:35And I think the real era of DVD in rental also with blockbuster video and others
- 26:42was way more freedom and democratic for the movies because you walked through the hallways,
- 26:49even in Walmart and everywhere.
- 26:52There were like thousands of choices.
- 26:55Now you have whatever, two Disney shelves and good book.
- 27:00So you're not getting independent movies anymore At a Walmart, at a Best Buy.
- 27:06And I think in the earlier years When you went to, especially to Blockbuster You had this,
- 27:12you walk And then you stop on a cover You have no information So you just see
- 27:18the cover You see who's maybe in it You see what genre it is And you give it a shot,
- 27:23And I think that's the reason that a lot of Especially also
- 27:26from the horror genre That a lot of movies turned
- 27:29into hints because not because
- 27:32they had a big theatrical pna spend or
- 27:35whatever more about then on home video they
- 27:38took off because people saw the cover
- 27:40and then you have like people at home that watch it they say to their buddy
- 27:44i just watched whatever seed like my horror movie with him you know and that's
- 27:51really gruesome you should watch that so then they went to blockbuster and rented
- 27:55it now Now, if you are on Amazon,
- 27:58you're not making it in that top 10 list.
- 28:02So you basically are only people find you if they scroll, you know, to the right.
- 28:09So you have to go for the first 25 titles that go by.
- 28:12They feature all their originals on the first thing where they have massive
- 28:17money in and where massive stars are.
- 28:19And then that's the reason a lot of things who are really bad,
- 28:23like where you watch and think, what the fuck is that?
- 28:26Still makes millions and millions of views because they
- 28:31are feature and you know you switch it on and boom watch frankenstein what whatever
- 28:37right so they're putting it in your face till you finally click it on yeah sure
- 28:41and the worst thing about the internet is like you've seen half the movie before you've even.
- 28:47I'm saying this 100% And then You know And they keep it there They keep it there
- 28:54And they're also A lot of times Faking their top 10 You know Like to keep Things
- 29:00pushing That was for me The big surprise With first shift And,
- 29:05Because of Why they should push me They bought that ship There's no big star
- 29:10in They give a shit They were just Loading it up And it made it In the top 10
- 29:15And you know And that's I remember when I contacted them,
- 29:19that was before the takeover from Alice, from Skydance.
- 29:22And these people were like, totally like, yeah, surprisingly successful.
- 29:27I said, yeah, look, give me two million bucks and I make two more.
- 29:30Like, I'm talking here about one third of an episode of Mayor of Kingstown budget
- 29:37and I can make two movies. Yeah. Right for this.
- 29:41Yeah, maybe. Then they were thinking about giving me $950,000 per 90-minute movie.
- 29:46And then I said okay let's do
- 29:49this and then it never came and then the guy was fired
- 29:52who told me that on the phone so he
- 29:55was replaced by new people and then
- 29:57the new people never answered me till now it was really like three weeks ago
- 30:03over half a year of nothing happened before they finally the new acquisition
- 30:07woman answered me and said of course we watch the movies as soon You have something
- 30:12to show At least that was a little Glimmer of hope.
- 30:17That there will be another deal coming, right? So, and because I know with the
- 30:22part two and three are better as part one and have also more casts like Kostas
- 30:28Mandelor, Michael Perret, Saul Rubinek.
- 30:32So it has more names and faces, you know, besides our main actors.
- 30:37So I'm hopeful, but I'm not hopeful that I get the amount of money I want.
- 30:45You know that they keep the 950 000 per episode up that's basically the minimum they should pay,
- 30:53after the first one was a real success right so i mean now i'm not coming here
- 30:57empty-handed with a movie nobody knows about and nobody gives a shit right so
- 31:02now you have something where you say look people will click that on they say
- 31:07oh that's our first shift movie let's watch it right So,
- 31:10I mean, the subscribers are not like totally different people now as they were two months ago.
- 31:17And that's for me the thing where I really hope that we can get something going
- 31:21there on that end. But yeah, we will see.
- 31:24Otherwise, I focus more on zombie movies in the future. Yeah.
- 31:31Look, it's always surprising to me. Someone who
- 31:34is very well skilled at delivering very classy
- 31:38and efficient products as you for minimal amounts of money in an era where they
- 31:44have clearly not learned the lesson that spending hundreds of millions of dollars
- 31:49isn't a guarantee of a return of hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars,
- 31:55that anyone who's prepared to say, look, well, if you give me $2 million,
- 32:00I'll make you two movies.
- 32:02You know no and it's also shocking when you read all that
- 32:04reports and articles always recently the
- 32:08guy who got like 40 million from netflix and bloated all
- 32:10there's no movie right so he got arrested for fraud
- 32:14because he bought whatever five bugannis so you feel like okay guys maybe you
- 32:19should trust a little more producer directors with a long list of credits and
- 32:24i mean i really delivered 40 movies with Oscar-winning actors and big stars
- 32:30in it on time in budget every single time, right?
- 32:34So I can make a $40 million movie, but I can also make a $1 million movie,
- 32:38and it will always be done, and it always will be entertaining,
- 32:43right? Will it be a total masterpiece?
- 32:45Maybe not. But will it be entertaining and good for your audience and never
- 32:50boring? That's 100%. Or like Roger Corman said that time on...
- 32:56I think he was on David Letterman and he said, they said, you know,
- 33:00this movie costs $60 million.
- 33:02And he said, I think that's a crime, you know,
- 33:05because Roger Corman was of the thinking, well, for $60 million,
- 33:08I could make 60 films, you know, like if Netflix offered you $40 million,
- 33:14you could probably make $40 million films for $40 million instead of one film for $40 million.
- 33:21And then it's a gamble whether or not that it makes any money at all.
- 33:26Yeah, but also you can do like when you think about, let's say,
- 33:29Alone in the Dark, Blood Rain, these were movies with big stars.
- 33:33They look big and they were like around 20 million.
- 33:37Now they would spend 80 for that same result, right?
- 33:40So they would just spend enormous amounts of money to get the same similar results,
- 33:45even if now CGI is cheaper as it was.
- 33:49So, you know, it's like for me, but that's the typical thing.
- 33:53What we have, of course, also for years in the German subsidy system, it's not their money.
- 33:59Right? So it's ultimately they want to be connected to big stars,
- 34:03they want to be connected to big names, and so they give them everything they
- 34:07want and they think if the money is gone, it's not, I'm not bankrupt.
- 34:11You know, it's like they get their salary and they think, I'd go risk-free,
- 34:16you know, and give it to Ben Affleck.
- 34:19You know, so that's, yeah, that's the thing. And You know, it's their decision
- 34:25But in the beginning I mean, we're almost done with the interview But in the
- 34:30beginning, I hoped That Netflix is more like blockbusters,
- 34:34Because their background was DVD and video. And I hope there are more champions
- 34:38for low budget and for genre.
- 34:40And that they would develop the new John Carpenters and stuff like this.
- 34:46And they're not doing that anymore.
- 34:49It looked for one or two years that they maybe go that route.
- 34:52And then they went a totally different route. And now they make just straight
- 34:55to streaming $100 million movies or sports events.
- 34:59Like stupid Logan Paul gets 80 million bucks to box Even if he cannot box You
- 35:06know, like Jake Paul and stuff like this And that's kind of,
- 35:11for me As a genre filmmaker, very disappointment You know, Apple was clear for
- 35:18me It's not my channel It's like this kind of Oh,
- 35:21everything has to be so smooth and great And big and big stars,
- 35:25whatever I know, but Netflix,
- 35:27I saw it Gives a home to people like me. Yeah, to shine.
- 35:33It's a shame, but I crossed my fingers once when you said you weren't making
- 35:37movies anymore and it worked because you're back making movies again.
- 35:4223 years later, Return to Zombie Island is on Indiegogo right now.
- 35:48You can get over and check out all the perks.
- 35:50Get over to Indiegogo. 23 years later, Return to Zombie Island.
- 35:55And also you can check out everything that Dr. Boll is doing.
- 35:58At eubolfilms.com. He's on Instagram and Facebook.
- 36:05Doctor, thank you for returning to make films, and thank you. Yeah, thanks so much.
- 36:11And look out in Australia to find me a distribution for my movies.
- 36:15If you know small distribution companies, we can make a five-picture deal with Australia right now.
- 36:21Mate, it sounds great, because you haven't made a film in Australia yet,
- 36:25so I hope one day you get a chance to do so. Killer kangaroos or something like that, huh?
- 36:31Yeah, they should invite me to a film festival. Zombie kangaroos. There we go.
- 36:36Okay. Sounds good. Thanks so much.
- 36:39Dr. Ball, thank you for being on Cinema Yugen, sir, and all the best with the Indiegogo campaign.
- 36:46Thanks, campaign. Yes, 23 years later. Get down to the Indiegogo link in the
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