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Running Twitter is Easier when You're not so 'WOKE', plus Corporate Media Finally Begins to Cover Biden Corruption · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was an interview that was done where Biden officials
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  Speaker 1: are actually saying that the pandemic lockdowns were worth it
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  Speaker 1: because pollution was following during the lockdowns, and now they're
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  Speaker 1: claiming that actually, whether you understood it or not, it
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  Speaker 1: was helping the quality of your life. They also said
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  Speaker 1: that quote many people enjoyed being in an environment instead
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  Speaker 1: of being at work, again saying that the lockdowns were
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  Speaker 1: a good thing now. During this interview on ABC News
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, the outgoing Assistant Secretary for Oceans and International
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  Speaker 1: Environmental and Scientific Affairs, Yeah you're paying for that position
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  Speaker 1: at the Department of State stated that during the lockdowns
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  Speaker 1: it took place during the coronavirus pandemic, many people quote
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  Speaker 1: really appreciated how much they enjoyed getting to be in
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  Speaker 1: the environment more days than they would if they had
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  Speaker 1: been at work, and that we saw pollution levels go
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  Speaker 1: down and people went home. My quality of life is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better now because they didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry as much about air pollution as they did before.
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  Speaker 1: Medina said that, I quote, a lot of people during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic discovered a greater appreciation for the environment because
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  Speaker 1: they were at home when they went outside, they really
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  Speaker 1: appreciated how much they enjoyed getting to be in the
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  Speaker 1: environment more days than they would if they would have
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  Speaker 1: been in the office. And in fact, we saw pollution
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  Speaker 1: levels go down, and people went, huh, my quality of
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  Speaker 1: life is a little bit better now that I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about whether it's Code red day or
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  Speaker 1: smog or air pollution day. So people did become more aware,
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  Speaker 1: and that is a good thing, all right. So you're
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  Speaker 1: telling me now that the saving grace of COVID in
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  Speaker 1: lockdowns for two years and destroying people's lives and putting
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  Speaker 1: people into deep depression, suicide rates, especially among young people's
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  Speaker 1: skyrocketing during COVID, is somehow actually a good thing. That
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  Speaker 1: we were shut off from our family and our friends,
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  Speaker 1: where people suffered from serious clinical depression, suicide rate skyrocket
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  Speaker 1: as well. At least the people that didn't kill themselves
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  Speaker 1: saw a beautiful world outside.
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  Speaker 2: And they didn't have to go to work.
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  Speaker 1: And so therefore this is a good thing that maybe
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  Speaker 1: we should do again in the future, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're really now telling you. The truth of this. There
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  Speaker 1: was a point I want to make. I want to
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  Speaker 1: make this clear. During these lockdowns right after the just
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  Speaker 1: give us two weeks lockdown right when you know that
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  Speaker 1: was the thing, just give us two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: After those two.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks were up, and then it turned into two months,
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  Speaker 1: six months, eight months, eight There was a certain point
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  Speaker 1: where they realized this is really about control, Like this
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  Speaker 1: is not about anything else but control. Like control here
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  Speaker 1: is pretty much everything we like. Control. We want to
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of that control. Control is something that
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  Speaker 1: we think is a good thing. So now we know
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  Speaker 1: what it is. We know that the control is clearly there,
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  Speaker 1: and they can decide when to shut you down and
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  Speaker 1: when to lock you down, when to silence you. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they're going to do. I'll have more on this
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  Speaker 1: story coming up. Back to the other story I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you about. Elon Musk set down for
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  Speaker 1: a very interesting interview with Tucker Carlson about shutting jobs
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  Speaker 1: at Twitter and how easy it is to run a
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  Speaker 1: big tech company with a much smaller staff when you're
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  Speaker 1: not trying to be a woke organization that is trying
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  Speaker 1: to silence and censor people and pick winners and losers
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  Speaker 1: when you tweet. I want you to hear part of
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  Speaker 1: that conversation it's an important one. And see how just
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  Speaker 1: how different Twitter is now and what all he actually found.
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  Speaker 3: In his own words, Elon must bought Twitter because he
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  Speaker 3: used Twitter. It's as simple as that. And he was
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  Speaker 3: in furiated by Twitter's effort to silence people on the Internet.
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  Speaker 3: That's how strongly he believed in free speech. He paid
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  Speaker 3: forty four billion dollars and a miliar you lost tens
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  Speaker 3: of billions of dollars doing it. And when he took
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  Speaker 3: over and looked behind the curtain, he discovered Twitter was
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  Speaker 3: really a tool of the global intel agencies to spy
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  Speaker 3: on people and emit propaganda. Here it is, you bought
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  Speaker 3: Twitter famously got a lot of other businesses and a
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  Speaker 3: lot going on. Yes, you said you bought it because
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  Speaker 3: you believe in speech, free speech. You've had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of hassle since you bought it. In retrospect, was it
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  Speaker 3: worth buying it?
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  Speaker 4: I mean it raised to be seen as to whether
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  Speaker 4: this was financially smart currently is it is not? You know,
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  Speaker 4: we just revalued the company at less than half of
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  Speaker 4: the acquisition produce.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: No, my timing was terrible for when the offer was
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  Speaker 4: made because it was right before advertising plummeted.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got the high water mark I noticed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it must be a real genius year.
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  Speaker 4: My timing is amazing, since I had vorder for at
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  Speaker 4: least twice as much as it should have been bored for.
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  Speaker 4: But somethings are priceless, and so the whether I lose
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  Speaker 4: money or not, that is a secondary issue compared to
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  Speaker 4: ensuring the strength of democracy and free speech is the
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  Speaker 4: bedrock of a functioning democracy.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and the speech needs to.
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  Speaker 4: Be as transparent and truthful as possible. So we've got
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  Speaker 4: a huge push on Twitter to be as truthful as possible.
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  Speaker 4: We've got this community notes feature, which is great. It
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  Speaker 4: is great, It is awesome, and it's like.
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  Speaker 3: I thought this morning, Yeah, it was far more honest
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  Speaker 3: than the New York Times.
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  Speaker 5: It's great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We put a lot of effort to ensuring that community
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  Speaker 4: notes does not get gamed or have biases. It simply
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  Speaker 4: cares about what is the most act thing. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes truth can be a little bit elusive, but you
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  Speaker 4: can still aspire to get closer to it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you know, and so.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the effect of community notes is more
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  Speaker 4: powerful than people may realize, because once people know that
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  Speaker 4: they could get noted, you know, community noted on Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: Then they'll think that more carefully about what they say
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  Speaker 4: they are likely. It's basically it's an encouragement to be
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  Speaker 4: more truthful and less deceptive.
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  Speaker 3: When you jumped into this, though, when you bought it,
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  Speaker 3: did you understand well, clearly you understood it's importance.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't bought it Twitter, Yes, right.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not the biggest, but it's the most important
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  Speaker 3: in the social media companies. But did you understand the
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  Speaker 3: kind of ferocity you'd be facing, the attacks you'd be
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  Speaker 3: facing from power centers in the country.
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  Speaker 4: I thought there'd probably be some negative reactions, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure everyone would.
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  Speaker 5: Not be pleased with the with with it.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, if
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  Speaker 4: if if the public is happy with it, that's what matters,
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  Speaker 4: and the public will speak with their actions. Although I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if if they find truth Twitter to be useful, they
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  Speaker 4: will use it more, and if they find it to
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  Speaker 4: be not useful, I will use it less. They find
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  Speaker 4: it to be the best source of truth, I think
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  Speaker 4: they will use it more.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's there's obviously a lot of organizations that are
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  Speaker 4: used to having sort of unfettered influence on Twitter that
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  Speaker 4: no longer have.
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  Speaker 3: That we used the New York Times of their of
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  Speaker 3: their badge this morning, and then you call them diarrhea.
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  Speaker 5: You did, you did. I'm just I'm just quoting it.
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  Speaker 3: You described their Twitter feed is diarrhea.
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  Speaker 4: I said, it's the Twitter Twitter equivalent of diarrhea. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's not literally diarrhea, but no, it's a you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a metaphor, but an accurate one. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you look at the at NY Times twitter feed
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  Speaker 4: is unreadable, it's like because what they do is that
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  Speaker 4: they tweet every single article, even the ones that are boring,
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  Speaker 4: even ones that don't make it into the paper. So
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  Speaker 4: so it's just NonStop zillion tweets a day with no
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  Speaker 4: you know, they really should just be saying, like, what
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  Speaker 4: are the top tweets? Yea, what of the what of
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  Speaker 4: the what are the big stories of the day. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, put out like ten or something. You know,
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  Speaker 4: so it's a number that's manageable as opposed to right now,
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  Speaker 4: if you if you would have followed whit time at
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  Speaker 4: n White Times on Twitter, you're going to get barraged
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  Speaker 4: with like hundreds of tweets a day, and your whole
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  Speaker 4: feet will be fieled with n white times. So that's
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  Speaker 4: that's this is something I would recommend actually for all publications,
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  Speaker 4: which is for your primary feed, only put out your
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  Speaker 4: best stuff. I think I know a thing or two
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  Speaker 4: about how to use Twitter, because you know, it was
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  Speaker 4: the most interacted with account on the whole system before
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  Speaker 4: the acquisition, before the opposition closed. I didn't have the
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  Speaker 4: most number of followers, but I had the most number
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  Speaker 4: of interactions, and so I clearly know something about how
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  Speaker 4: to use Twitter. People's attention is limited, so just make
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  Speaker 4: sure you put the stuff that's most important.
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  Speaker 3: There, because you know, you and people like you do
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  Speaker 3: interact on Twitter. It's obviously enormously powerful in shaping public opinion.
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  Speaker 3: It's where a lot of ideas and trends are incubated,
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  Speaker 3: norms wherebsolutely.
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  Speaker 5: It's also a magnet.
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  Speaker 3: For intell agencies from around the world. And one of
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  Speaker 3: the things we learned after you started opening the books
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  Speaker 3: is that they were exerting influence from within Twitter.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was absurd. Did you know that? Going in?
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  Speaker 4: No Since I've been a heavy Twitter user since two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and nine. It's it's sort of like I'm in
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  Speaker 4: the matrix. I mean, I can see like things, do
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  Speaker 4: things feel right? Do they not feel right? What tweets
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  Speaker 4: am I being shown as recommended? Like I get to
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  Speaker 4: feel like what accounts are making comments? Where the comment
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  Speaker 4: it's uh ear rely similar yeah, and uh and then
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  Speaker 4: you look at the account and it's just obviously a
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  Speaker 4: fake photo and uh you know, uh, it's just obviously
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  Speaker 4: a bought cluster over and over again. So I started
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  Speaker 4: to get like, just more and more uneasy about the
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  Speaker 4: Twitter situation. I started I was starting to feel like
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  Speaker 4: something's rot on the state of Denmark here, There's there's
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  Speaker 4: something feels wrong about the platform.
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  Speaker 5: It seemed to be just drifting in a I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Place it exactly, just ahead of it felt like it
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  Speaker 4: was drifting in a bad direction. So then I was like,
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  Speaker 4: and my conversations with the board and management seemed to
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  Speaker 4: confirm my intuition about that.
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  Speaker 5: But basically I was caniss, these guys do not care
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  Speaker 5: about fixing.
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  Speaker 4: Twitter, and and and I had a bad feeling about
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  Speaker 4: where I was headed based.
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  Speaker 5: On the conversations conversations I had with them.
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  Speaker 4: So then I was like, you know what I I'll
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  Speaker 4: try acquiring it and see if that's see if acquiring
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  Speaker 4: it is possible. Now I didn't have enough cash to
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: acquire it, so I would need, you know, support from others,
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  Speaker 4: from some of the existing investors. I would also need
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  Speaker 4: like a lot of dat And so it wasn't clear
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  Speaker 4: to me whether an acquisition would succeed ath or I
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  Speaker 4: would try and ultimately it did succeed.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, here we are.
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  Speaker 3: But when you got there and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: you own it, and all the data on the service
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  Speaker 3: belongs to you and.
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  Speaker 4: What belongs to the people in my view, but yes,
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  Speaker 4: but you can see what it is, and you can
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  Speaker 4: see what they've been doing, and you can see who's
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  Speaker 4: been working there.
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  Speaker 3: You were shocked to find out that various intel agencies
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  Speaker 3: were affecting its operations.
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  Speaker 4: The degree to which various government agencies had effectively had
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  Speaker 4: full access to everything that was going on on Twitter
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  Speaker 4: blew my mind.
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  Speaker 5: I was not aware of that.
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  Speaker 3: Would that include people's dms?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, because the dms are not encrypted.
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  Speaker 4: So one of the posts, you know, one of the
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  Speaker 4: things that we're about to release is ability to encrypt
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  Speaker 4: your DM.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty heavy duty though, because a lot of well
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  Speaker 3: known people, reporters talking to their sources, government officials, rich
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  Speaker 3: in the world, they're dming each other and the assumption
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  Speaker 3: obviously was incorrect. But was it that's private, but that
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  Speaker 3: was being read by various governments.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that seems to yes, scary, Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 4: So, like I said, we're moving to have the dms
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  Speaker 4: be optionally encrypted. I mean, you know, there's like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of DM conversations, which are you know, just chatting
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  Speaker 4: with friends.
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  Speaker 5: It's not not important.
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  Speaker 4: That's hopefully coming out later this month, but no later
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  Speaker 4: the next month. Is the ability to tuggle encryption on
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  Speaker 4: or off. So if you if you are in a
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  Speaker 4: conversation you think a sensitive, you can just toggle encryption
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  Speaker 4: on and then no one on Twitter can see what
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  Speaker 4: are you're talking about. I could put a gun to
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  Speaker 4: my head and I can't. I couldn't tell I can't.
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  Speaker 5: That's sort of the gun to the head test.
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  Speaker 4: Afually puts it gun to my head and can I
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  Speaker 4: still not see your dms?
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  Speaker 5: That should be that's the assid test.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and that's how it should be if you want
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  Speaker 4: your if you had complaints.
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  Speaker 1: But by the way, let's just pause there and stop
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  Speaker 1: for a second and just think about what he just said.
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  Speaker 1: The federal government could then spy on anything in your
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  Speaker 1: sources through direct messages. There's a lot of people that
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  Speaker 1: have contacted me for background and government agencies and stories
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  Speaker 1: and local government, state government, national There are people that
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  Speaker 1: have been like, Hey, don't use my name, but I
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  Speaker 1: want you to know this is what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Here or there, or here or there.
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  Speaker 1: And when you hear that right now, to know that
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  Speaker 1: they could just read that. They could read the DMS
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  Speaker 1: of the President United States America Donald Trump. They could
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  Speaker 1: read senators or congressmen. I've had senators and congressmen who
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  Speaker 1: have sent me things right, who have sent me different
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  Speaker 1: things that need to be you know, talked about. Those
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  Speaker 1: could be read by Twitter or other people in the government. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's Ben Ferguson sending messages about what is sender Marshall
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  Speaker 1: Blackburn sending things about? What is Bill Haggerty sending things
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  Speaker 1: about what is Ted Cruz sending DMS about I've had
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  Speaker 1: people in government that have sent me stories. They're like, hey,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: you might want to look into this for this reason, FYI,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I can't come out and say anything about this, but
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: you can, and apparently now that was being read or
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: could be read by the federal government your direct messages.
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  Speaker 1: That's what a DM is. Is no longer a private conversation,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: which the word direct implies, right, not indirect, Not through
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  Speaker 1: the government first or after, or in between, not through
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  Speaker 1: Twitter employees before, after, in between. What if you send
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  Speaker 1: something that's inappropriate and I'm talking about like humor that
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  Speaker 1: someone might judge you for later, that pushes a line
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  Speaker 1: they could read that use it against you later in life.
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  Speaker 1: What if you send something funny from a stand up
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: comedian that makes an off color joke. I've done that before,
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  Speaker 1: something I would never tweet out because it would start
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  Speaker 1: a firestorm. Right, That is pure humor that you send
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  Speaker 1: to a family member or friend. Yes, the federal government
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  Speaker 1: and yes Twitter employees could read every one of your direct.
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  Speaker 2: Messages that put people's lives at risk.
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  Speaker 1: Sources, whistleblowers, those inside outside the government who may be
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  Speaker 1: trying to get the word out to journalists and others
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  Speaker 1: of what's really happening. Every almost every media tip that
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  Speaker 1: I receive, or I say every government inside government tip
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  Speaker 1: that I receive, comes in through a DM.
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  Speaker 2: People will reach out to.
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  Speaker 1: You on social media because they don't I mean house
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  Speaker 1: they going to reach out to you and know it's you, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll send it Hey can you know? And some
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: people we are smart, like hey, I need to chat
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  Speaker 1: with you. But even that, right there is enough to
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, this person works here, they're whistle blowing
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  Speaker 1: on this. We need to let them know what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Like even that right there, just saying can we talk offline?
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  Speaker 1: I got one of these couple weeks ago and it's
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  Speaker 1: a big story that I'm still working on, and it
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  Speaker 1: was can we talk offline?
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  Speaker 5: That?
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  Speaker 1: Right there is enough for somebody in the government to
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  Speaker 1: is their ability to sue the old people of Twitter
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  Speaker 1: for knowing that this abuse of power was taking place
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  Speaker 1: while they tried to claim that it would be a
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  Speaker 1: direct message, not you and the government, not you and
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  Speaker 1: Twitter employees a direct message?
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  Speaker 2: And how often were they reading these dms?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure depending on who you are, they could be
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: reading them quite often, depending on what you do depending
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on what stories you're breaking. Imagine your reporter, you come
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: out with a big story, they could probably go backwards
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and read your DMS. Here's the last part of that
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  Speaker 1: interview with Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 4: Various governments about doing this. I haven't had direct complaints
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: to me. I've had sort of, like some indirect complaints.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I think people are a little concerned about complaining to me
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: directly in case I treat about it. You know, they're like, oh,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: so they sort of try to be more round about
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: than that, you know. I mean, if I got something
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: that was unconstitutional from the US government, my reply would
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: be to sad on the copy of the First Amendment
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: and just say, like, what pit of this are we're
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: getting wrong?
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  Speaker 5: You have a lot of you have a lot of governments.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: What part of this are getting wrong? Please tell me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a pretty not I'm just saying, but
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you're kind of exposed in your other businesses.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: So this is just in case reviewers aren'tollowing this.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: This is not You're not just like a journalist taking
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a stand on behalf of the First Amendment. You're a
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: guy with big government contracts giving the finger to the government.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Do you think.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Twitter will be as central to this presidential camp and
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: as it was in the last several.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I think it will play a significant role in elections,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: not just domestically but internationally.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: The goal of new Twitter is to be.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: As fair and even had it as possible, so not
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: favoring any political ideology, but just.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, being being fair at all. Why doesn't Facebook do this?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I know that Zuckerberg has said, and I take him
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: at face value that he well, I do actually in
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: this way that he is a kind of old fashioned
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: liberal who.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Doesn't like to censor.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: He has, but he you know, like, why wouldn't a
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: company like that take the stand that you have taken,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: which pretty American traditional political custom, you know, for free speech.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: My understanding is that Zuckerberg spent four hundred million dollars
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: in the last election, nominally in a get out the
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: vote campaign, but really fund him in support of Democrats.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Is that accurate or not accurate? That is accurate? Does
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: that sound unbiased to you?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: No?
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: It doesn't.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, so you don't see hope that Facebook will approach
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: this as a non aligned arbiter. You've allowed Donald Trump
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: back on Twitter. He hasn't taken you up on your
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: offer because he's got his own thing. Do you think
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: he will go back on Twitter?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's obviously after him. You know, my job
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: is to you know, I take the freedom of speech
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: very seriously. So it's you know, I didn't I didn't
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: vote for Donald Trump. I actually vote for Biden. Not
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: saying I'm a huge fan of Biden, because I would
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: thinks that would probably be an accurate But you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: we have difficult choices to make in these residential elections.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: It's not I would prefer, frankly, that we put someone
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: just a normal person as president, a normal person with
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: common sense and whose values are smack in the middle
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: of the country, you know, just you know, serah, with
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the normal distribution.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: And I think they'll do that. They would be great. Yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I think we have made.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe being president not that much fun, you know, to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: be totally frank.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Subscribe to the Fox News YouTube channeled Act.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: That is part of that interview, and I want you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to know that I think what Elon must did was
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: not just incredibly brave. Some would say it was financially insane.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And I think that's how much he cared about exposing,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: not just what big tech was doing, but also actual
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: free speech. He's got more money than he knows what's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: do with, and now he's lost a lot of it
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: trying to fix some of these problems that we have
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in the world, which I think.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Is just amazing.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit to Elon Musk for
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: doing this, for exposing it, and also sitting down having
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: these conversations. The amount of abuse of power that the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: federal government had the amount of abuse of power to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: just dive into your private personal life and your DMS
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that they had access to unlimited access to tells you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just how corrupt they actually are. Joe Biden, remember Joe Biden,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the guy who touted the disinformation letter in the Presidents
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: of debate, saying, there are fifty former national intelligence officials
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that are saying that this is Russian disinformation, the Hunter
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Byden laptop story.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: We now know they lied, and we now know how
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: they covered it up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: This is back in Nashville in October twenty second, right
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: before the presidential election in twenty twenty listened to the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: president his own.
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  Speaker 7: Words, Look, there are fifty former national intelligence folks who
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: said that what this he's accusing me of is a
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Russian plant. They have said that this has all the
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: four five former heads of the CIA. Both parties say
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: it except them his and his good friend Rudi Jielli.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: You mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia Russia hoax.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Hey you that's exactly what this is. Exactly what this
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: is where he's going.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were lying to you. Everybody now knows they
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: were lying to you. Those intelligence officials knew they were
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: lying to you. Okay, everybody involved was lying to you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: These top Russian officials were covering it up because they
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to cook the books. Okay, they wanted to cook
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the books. They wanted to make sure that they got
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: their guy in the White House that they could control.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And that's what they've done. They can now control them.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: They can control them, and it's pretty much perfect. Now
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Biden touting that group we now know is a lie.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: We've known it for some time, but now it's been
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: con firmed on a new letter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: A new level. I should say.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We have congressmen now coming out talking about what this means.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I also have to go back and just remind you
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of something else that happened, and this is this is
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: just another example of the pure arrogance of this administration.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: This administration has known that the media would.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Cover them no matter what they did right, no matter
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: what they did, they were going to do this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: They were going to cover and now and now, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: now you have.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: People like CBS News that are being forced to report
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: what really happened with this cover up. CBS Evening News
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Nora o'donald's had this on last night.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: My client wants to come forward to Congress. He's ready
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: to be questioned about what he knows and what he
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: experienced under the proper legal protections.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Attorney Mark Ladle's client is supervisory special agent at the IRS,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: who's prepared to tell Congress the investigation he's been working
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: on has been hampered by what he thinks is special treatment.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: Typical steps that a law enforcement investigator would take were
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: compromised because of political considerations.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Lytel wouldn't talk in specifics, declining to identify either his
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: client or the target of the investigation his client helped conduct.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Can you identify him? I can't at this stage, Jim.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: But CBS News has learned the investigation the whistleblower worked
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: on is about Hunter Biden.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: What we're doing is is being completely cooperative. That was Biden.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Two years ago, after the DOJ opened an investigation into
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: his finances. The FBI collected what it believed was sufficient
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: evidence to charge Biden with tax crimes, and last year
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: sent its findings to the US attorney in Delaware. Since then, silence,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Why can't your client talk to us directly?
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: At this point, there are laws that provide protection to whistleblowers,
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: and he has to navigate that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Today, Leytel sent this letter to Congress claiming his client
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: could provide information that would contradict sworn testimony by a
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: senior political appointee.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: I promise to ensure that he's able to carry out
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: his investigation.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: CBS News has learned that was Attorney General Merrick Garland.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That was Attorney General Merit Garland. Oh okay, well that's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: kind of important information, right, I mean, that's kind of important. Yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That's just how we roll, That's just what we do.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: That's how all this is gonna happen. The media will
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: cover for us, because the media always covers for us.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: There's also something else they said in this report from
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: NBC News last night that this IRS agent who's seeking
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: whistleblower status in the Hunter Biden case. Here's what NBC
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: News had to say.
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: Listen carefully, two senior law enforcement officials describing to NBC.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: News growing frustration.
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: Inside the FBI because federal investigators finished the bulk of
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: their work about a year ago, and suspect political interference
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: is delaying the process.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So now a growing frustration is happening inside the FBI
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: because federal investigators finished the bulk or their work about
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a year ago, and the Hunter Byden investigation m suspect
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: quote political interference is delaying the process.
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: Oho.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back to ABC News. What are
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: they saying over at ABC News. Now, that's the first
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: time they've all recovered this in the same night.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: The attorney four one hundred bodies says the agent is
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: committing a crime by discussing an ongoing tax investigation and
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: a tempt to harm the president's son. But the whistleblowers
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: attorney just told me such claims.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Are baseless, baseless. I tell you they're baseless, right, baseless.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: These are baseless claims, baseless. I think we all know
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that to lie. Now we all know there's nothing even
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: close to that. We know it's real, we know what's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: going on with it. We understand what's happening with it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: This is the media for the first time I've ever
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: seen them cover it this way.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That's something that people really need to understand. I also
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: want you to hear from Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan had
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: this to say on Fox about what's happening with the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Attorney General Garland.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Here's what he said on Fox. Listen.
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: This has been political from the get go, clear back
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: to the moral situation. When the story came out on
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: October fourteenth, twenty twenty, about the Biden business operation and
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: was then Vice President Joe Biden involved, there was some
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: concern that he was. And then quickly it turns in
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: this political operation that that letter that became the basis
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: for suppressing the story and keeping it from the American
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: people just days before the most important election we have
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: election for president of United States. So understand what happened, Laura.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: The fourteenth post as a story.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: The seventeenth.
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Tony Blaken, senior advisor to the Biden campaign, current Secretary
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: of State, contacts Mike gets him interested in this. Mike
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: Morell looks at it the next day, organizes on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: eighteenth all these other people to sign the letter. The nineteenth,
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: the letter goes out, and then on the twenty second,
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: And the reason Mike Morrell said he did the letter
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: was he thought President Trump would bring the issue up
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: during that debate on the twenty second of October, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: of course he did. And they wanted some statement that
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden could use because, as mister Morrell said, they
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: wanted him to win. Now what happens on the twenty second,
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: Joe Biden brings it up, and then after that debate,
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: here's the kicker. Steve Roschetti, chair of the Biden campaign,
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: calls up Mike Morell and thanks him for doing it all.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: It was a total political operation. And the most important
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: fact is, Laura, it was false. It wasn't Russian. This information,
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: the laptop story looks to be true.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It wasn't false information. The laptop story is true. Share
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