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Bombshell Durham Report Vindicates Trump! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict of Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
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Speaker 2: you as well, Senator. The Durham report is out and
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Speaker 2: it's very clear that it vindicates Donald Trump. I can't
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Speaker 2: believe I'm saying this, but even CNN said it vindicates
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. It was very clear a witch hunt from
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Speaker 2: the deep State to go after the President of the
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Speaker 2: United States of America and to try to destroy him,
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Speaker 2: his family, his entire life, and to remind people of
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Speaker 2: how much they wanted to destroy Donald Trump. Let's remind
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Speaker 2: people of what Nancy Pelosi said when all this started
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Speaker 2: many years ago.
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Speaker 3: This week we saw cold hard evidence of the Trump campaign,
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Speaker 3: indeed the Trump family eagerly intending to collude, possibly with Russia,
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Speaker 3: a hostile foreign power, to influence American elections in the month. Again,
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Speaker 3: as we celebrate the courage of our founders, Republicans in
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Speaker 3: Congress have become enablers of the Trump Russia assault on
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Speaker 3: our democracy. After these latest revelations, it's becoming clear we
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Speaker 3: have suffered a desecration of our democracy not seen since Watergate.
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Speaker 3: Speaker Ryan must allow a vote on an outside, independent
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Speaker 3: kit mission to get to the bottom of the Trump
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Speaker 3: campaign's rule in Russia's assault on our democracy, and prevent
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Speaker 3: Putin from ever doing it again. Immediately outside independent commission.
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Speaker 3: It's not just about what happened in the past, is
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Speaker 3: to prevent it from happening again.
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Speaker 1: Send her.
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Speaker 2: She knew she was lying, and she was calling for
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Speaker 2: a full on investigation of Donald Trump, and she got.
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Speaker 4: It every word. Nancy Pelosi said, there was a lie.
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Speaker 4: You're right. She knew she was lying. The media knew
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Speaker 4: she was lying, The Department of Justice knew she was lying.
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Speaker 4: The FBI knew she was not lying. Congressional Democrat leadership
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Speaker 4: knew she was lying. As I read this report, I'm angry.
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Speaker 4: I'm angry on multiple fronts. Let me quote from the
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Speaker 4: Durham Report. Quote. Based on the evidence gathered in the
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Speaker 4: multiple exhaustive and costly federal investigations of these matters, including
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Speaker 4: the Incidant investigation, neither US law enforcement nor the intelligence
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Speaker 4: community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion
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Speaker 4: in their holdings. At the commencement of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation,
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Speaker 4: the report continues, quote, our investigation determined that the Crossfire
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Speaker 4: Hurricane investigators did not and could not corroborate any any
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Speaker 4: of the substantive allegations contained in the Steel reporting, Nor
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Speaker 4: was Steel able to produce corroboration for any of the
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Speaker 4: reported allegations, even after being offered one million dollars or
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Speaker 4: more by the FBI for such corroboration. This investigation was
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Speaker 4: started as a lie, and it was started as a
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Speaker 4: political witch hunt. Actually, the words Trump used were accurate.
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Speaker 4: This was a witch hunt. This was Democrats in Congress.
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Speaker 4: This was rabid left wing partisans burrowed into the FBI.
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Speaker 4: This was rabid left wing partisans burrowed in the Department
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Speaker 4: of Justice, all using the machinery of law enforcement to
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Speaker 4: target what was then the Republican nominee for president. This
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Speaker 4: is a grotesque abuse of power. And if you're not
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Speaker 4: angry at it, even if you were a Democrat, even
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Speaker 4: if you can't stand Trump, the idea that the federal
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Speaker 4: government would go after one of the two major party
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Speaker 4: nominees and try to destroy them because they hate him,
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Speaker 4: is an incredible threat to our liberty and to our democracy.
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Speaker 4: And I use those words without a sense of irony,
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Speaker 4: because the Democrats, as you just played, Nancy Pelosi said,
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Speaker 4: we're defending democracy. Defending democracy. She was engaged in as
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Speaker 4: fundamental an assault on democracy as our country has ever seen.
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Speaker 4: It was using law enforcement to try to prevent the
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Speaker 4: American people from electing someone she didn't want, and then
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Speaker 4: to try to remove a duly elected president because she
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Speaker 4: hated the voters for electing it.
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Speaker 2: Is it too strong center to call this, and I
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Speaker 2: think it's time just that we're blunt. Is this was
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Speaker 2: this basically an essence of coup attempt by the deep
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Speaker 2: state to say, we don't like who the American people chose,
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Speaker 2: and therefore we're going to fix it by on false pretenses,
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Speaker 2: framing someone for crimes, framing somebody for things they never did,
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Speaker 2: writing a script to frame them for it, and then
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Speaker 2: get rid of that person.
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Speaker 4: So yes and no, there were some engaged in a
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Speaker 4: coup attempt. In fact, if I may be so bold
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Speaker 4: as to use the word insurrection, when you're trying to
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Speaker 4: topple a duly elected government, it's an insurrection. And what
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Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi was trying to do, what Congressional Democrats were
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Speaker 4: trying to do, was an insurrection. I think some of
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Speaker 4: the hard partisans at DOJ and the FBI were doing
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Speaker 4: the same I think others were just complacents. So let
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Speaker 4: me read again from the Durham Report quote. Based on
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Speaker 4: the review of Crossfire, Hurricane, and related intelligence activities, we
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Speaker 4: concluded that the Department and the FBI failed to uphold
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Speaker 4: their important mission of strict fidelity to the law in
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Speaker 4: connection with certain events and activities described in this report.
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Speaker 4: As noted, former FBI Attorney Kevin Klin Smith committed a
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Speaker 4: criminal offense by fabricating language and an EBA that was
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Speaker 4: material to the FBI in obtaining a PHISIS surveillance order.
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Speaker 4: In other instance, FBI personnel working on the same PHIZ
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Speaker 4: application displayed at best a cavalier attitude towards accuracy and completeness. Now,
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Speaker 4: the Durham Report continues. Our investigation also revealed that senior
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Speaker 4: FBI personnel displayed a serious lack of analytical rigor towards
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Speaker 4: the information that they received, especially information from politically affiliated
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Speaker 4: persons and entities, and the report continues. In light of
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Speaker 4: the foregoing, there is a continuing need for the FBI
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Speaker 4: and the Department to recognize that lack of analytical rigor,
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Speaker 4: apparent confirmation bias, and an over willingness to rely on
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Speaker 4: information from individuals connected to political opponents caused investigators fail
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Speaker 4: to adequately consider alternative hypotheses and to act without appropriate
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Speaker 4: objectivity or restraint in pursuing allegations of collusion or conspiracy
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Speaker 4: between a US political campaign and a foreign power. This
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Speaker 4: is deming and it shows a combination of people on
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Speaker 4: a mission to destroy their political opponents and perfectly happy
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Speaker 4: to use law enforcement to do it, and others who
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Speaker 4: had such a sense of laxity that they were perfectly
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Speaker 4: fine to be part of the process. And no one
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Speaker 4: who stood up and said, what the hell are we doing?
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Speaker 4: And that's what I wonder. Is there no one in DOJ,
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Speaker 4: no one in FBI who had a shred of integrity,
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Speaker 4: who said, even if they're a Democrat, gosh, I don't
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Speaker 4: like Trump, but we don't have evidence here to launch
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Speaker 4: a massive investigation to try to influence and shift the
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Speaker 4: results of an election and try to remove a duly
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Speaker 4: elected president. As far as this report indicates, nobody had
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Speaker 4: that integrity.
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Speaker 2: let's start at the top with the FBI. Is it
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Speaker 2: clear that the FBI was guilty of lying to the
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Speaker 2: American people?
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Speaker 4: Unquestionably yes, and in fact it is a fact. So
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Speaker 4: Andrew klin Smith, who I mentioned before, he was an
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Speaker 4: assistant General counsel at the FBI. He fabricated, he created
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Speaker 4: a counterfeit document, he committed a felony, and the circumstances
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Speaker 4: of that. As you know, we've talked about this in
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Speaker 4: the pod. Before the last book, I wrote Justice Corrupted,
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Speaker 4: How the Left has weaponized the legal system, and I
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Speaker 4: encourage folks go by Justice Corrupted. There's an entire chapter
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Speaker 4: that walks through what the DOJ did, what the FBI did.
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Speaker 4: But Andrew Klinesmith was seeking a wire tap on Carter Page.
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Speaker 4: Carter Page was an academic. He was giving foreign policy
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Speaker 4: advice to the Trump campaign. This is in twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 4: in the summer and fall of twenty sixteen, and the
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Speaker 4: basis for the wiretap was carter Page was talking to
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Speaker 4: some shady Russians. Now, generally speaking, you probably shouldn't talk
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Speaker 4: to shady Russians. But Andrew Klinesmith engaged in a little
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Speaker 4: due diligence and he sent an email to the CIA
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Speaker 4: and he asked, Hey, is this guy carter Page a
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Speaker 4: source for the CIA? Now, if you think about it,
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Speaker 4: the fact that you're talking to shady Russians, ordinarily maybe
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Speaker 4: that would be a cause for suspicion. But if you're
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Speaker 4: working for the CIA, if you're doing it on behalf
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Speaker 4: of the United States government, if you're serving the American
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Speaker 4: people by talking to shady Russians, that doesn't raise suspicion.
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Speaker 4: That's actually a good thing. You ought to say, thank you.
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Speaker 4: So Andrew clin Smith emails the CIA says it's carter
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Speaker 4: Page a source for you. CIA emails back and says, yes,
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Speaker 4: he is a source. And Andrew klin Smith he was
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Speaker 4: such a hard court partisan. He hated Trump so much.
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Speaker 4: He was in an environment where he was surrounded by
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Speaker 4: hardcore partisans that hated Trump so much they wanted to
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Speaker 4: go after him. He takes that email and he alters it,
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Speaker 4: and he doesn't alter it slightly. The email says, yes,
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Speaker 4: carter Page is a source. And Andrew klin Smith changes
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Speaker 4: the email to say, no, carter Pages not. So he
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Speaker 4: alters it so it says one hundred and eighty degrees
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Speaker 4: the opposite of what it said. And then he takes
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Speaker 4: that fraudulent counterfeit document. He submits it to the federal court,
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Speaker 4: the FISA Court, and that becomes one of the important
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Speaker 4: bases for seeking the wiretap. That is an absolute bombshell
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Speaker 4: of the FBI lying to the American people. And listen,
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Speaker 4: did the other people of the FBI lie, not directly,
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Speaker 4: but they created the environment where the DOJ and the
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Speaker 4: FBI viewed getting Donald Trump as the preeminent objective, and
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Speaker 4: so they were willing to ignore the evidence and critically.
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Speaker 4: Look you look at what Durham said. They had plenty
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Speaker 4: of indication that this Steel report was garbage, that it
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Speaker 4: came for, that it was paid for by the Hillary
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Speaker 4: Clinton campaign, that was paid for by the DNC, and
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Speaker 4: by the way law enforcement and campaign Auto view with
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Speaker 4: great skepticism. Any OPO document that they receive from someone's
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Speaker 4: political opponent doesn't mean it could never be accurate, but
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Speaker 4: they ought to recognize whoever prepared this document has every
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Speaker 4: incentive to lie, to twist the facts. They want to
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Speaker 4: tear this person down. So we should be skeptical. We
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Speaker 4: should not accept it as face value. Because DOJ and
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Speaker 4: the FBI hated Trump so much, they had none of
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Speaker 4: that skepticism, and that is a failure in the very
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Speaker 4: foundations of how law enforcement is supposed to operate.
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Speaker 2: The scary part is what you just explained is just
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Speaker 2: the FBI. So let's move on to the DOJ. Are
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Speaker 2: they guilty of lying to the American people as well?
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Speaker 4: Of course they are. And it the DOJ. You had
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Speaker 4: people like Bruce Orr, whose wife was working with Fusion GPS,
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Speaker 4: which was the OPO research firm being paid for by
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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton, and Bruce Or was an associate Deputy Attorney
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Speaker 4: General at the Department of Justice. By the way, under
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Speaker 4: George W. Bush, I was an Associate Deputy Attorney General
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Speaker 4: at the Department of Justice. I've had that job as
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Speaker 4: an aside. How many times do you have a job
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Speaker 4: that has that many modifiers. Associate deputy attorney general. It's
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Speaker 4: a little weird. Government's weird. They call that in DOJ
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Speaker 4: parlance an ADAG. By the way, there's a more complicated acronym,
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Speaker 4: which is their multiple associate deputies deputy attorneys general. There's
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Speaker 4: also one who is the principal Associate Deputy attorney General.
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Speaker 4: Instead of an ADAG, that person's called a PAYDAG because
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Speaker 4: government can't exist without acronyms. But Bruce Or was an ADAG.
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Speaker 4: His wife, Nellie Or, was working for Fusion GPS, which
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Speaker 4: was on the payroll of Hillary Clinton. And once the
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Speaker 4: FBI and the Department of Justice stopped dealing with Steele,
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Speaker 4: who created the Steel dossier because he had all sorts
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Speaker 4: of reasons to be untrustworthy, Bruce Or and Nelly Or
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Speaker 4: became a back channel and he didn't tell anyone, so
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Speaker 4: it was the Department of Justice again. He was perfectly
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Speaker 4: willing to circumvent the process because he hated Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: And it's important to understand the environment. Everyone there thought
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Speaker 4: there is no universe in which Trump can win, so
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Speaker 4: we can use all of government to attack him because
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Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton will be president and we'll have some radical
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Speaker 4: left winger as attorney general, and so whatever we do,
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Speaker 4: we'll never see the light of day. No one will
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Speaker 4: know it because Trump will lose. We're safe. And then
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Speaker 4: suddenly Trump won and they're like, holy crap, what do
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Speaker 4: we do? What do we do? And they made a decision.
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Speaker 4: So November December twenty sixteen January twenty seventeen, they had
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Speaker 4: a moment where they could have said, you know, abandon ship,
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Speaker 4: let's stop this attack. He's the newly elected president. Let's
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Speaker 4: respect democracy. He's the president. We don't like him, but
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Speaker 4: he's the president. Let's accept as legitimate. Not only didn't
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Speaker 4: do that, they made the decision to do everything they
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Speaker 4: could to tear him down. This was, I believe, the
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Speaker 4: greatest internal coup within the federal government that our nation
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Speaker 4: has ever seen. And Trump said they're wiretapping me. He
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Speaker 4: was right. Trump said they're coming after me. He was right.
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Speaker 4: Trump said this is a witch hunt. He was right. Listen.
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Speaker 4: There are lots of things that Trump says and does
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Speaker 4: that I don't agree with, but the behavior of DOJ
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Speaker 4: and the FBI in this investigation is, without exaggeration, the
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Speaker 4: most shameful chapter in the history of the Department of
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Speaker 4: Justice and the FBI, and there is yet to be
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Speaker 4: real accountability for this absolute abuse of power.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's truly incredible to see two organizations use
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Speaker 2: this way. Let's start talking about individuals. Senator James Comy.
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Speaker 2: Did he lie to the American people.
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Speaker 4: Repeatedly, shamelessly, unabashedly. Look James Comy as someone who is
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Speaker 4: deeply political. He was deeply political under George W. Bush.
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Speaker 4: He was Deputy Attorney General under George W. Bush. He
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Speaker 4: was deeply political under Barack Obama. He held his big
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Speaker 4: press conference where he said, Okay, Hillary violated the law
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Speaker 4: when she dealt with her emails, but it's not enough
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Speaker 4: to indict. That was not the job of an FBI director.
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Speaker 4: But I think James Comy fancies himself as j Edgar Hoover.
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Speaker 4: He wanted to be the most powerful FBI director ever.
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Speaker 4: He wanted to use his power. And look, when I
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Speaker 4: look back to the Trump presidency, there are many many
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Speaker 4: big victories that we won during the Trump presidencies, victories
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Speaker 4: that I worked hand in hand with Donald Trump to
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Speaker 4: win big victories for the American people. When I look
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Speaker 4: back at mistakes in the Trump presidency. There were multiple,
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Speaker 4: but I don't know that any was as big as
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Speaker 4: the fact that Trump did not fire James Comy on
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Speaker 4: January twentieth, twenty seventeen. I believe Donald Trump should have
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Speaker 4: called James Comy in and said, mister Comy, thank you
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Speaker 4: for your service to the nation. Your services are no
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Speaker 4: longer required. And the Trump White House, I think, very
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Speaker 4: naively believe they could co opt James Comy, they could
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Speaker 4: bring him on board, they could make him on board
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Speaker 4: the team, and they did not understand the radiant ambition
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Speaker 4: in James Comy, where Komy went in wanting to take
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Speaker 4: down Donald Trump, and he should have. If he'd been
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Speaker 4: fired on day one, it would have saved the Trump
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Speaker 4: administration thousands upon thousands of hours of misery. And it
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Speaker 4: was a serious mistake because Comy was more than happy
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Speaker 4: to try to weaponize the FBI against a president he
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Speaker 4: did not like and did not agree with.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the biggest liar of all who started all,
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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, And should Hillary Clinton have actually not just
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Speaker 2: be called a liar center, but should she be held
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Speaker 2: accountable for what she did? And let me remind everybody
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Speaker 2: of what Hillary Clinton said about this lie back in
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Speaker 2: the day. In one of her interviews.
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Speaker 5: To our future, the damage being done to our values,
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Speaker 5: our institutions, and try to think of ways that I
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Speaker 5: can help those who are on the front lines of
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Speaker 5: the fight.
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Speaker 6: Your name doesn't come up much on any campaign, except
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Speaker 6: for Donald Trump's lock her up is still a big
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Speaker 6: popular line.
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Speaker 5: I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. He knows
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Speaker 5: he knows that there were a bunch of different reasons
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Speaker 5: why the election turned out the way it did, and
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Speaker 5: I take responsibility for those parts of it.
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Speaker 4: That I should.
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Speaker 5: But Jane, it was like applying for a job and
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Speaker 5: getting sixty six million letters of recommendation and losing to
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Speaker 5: a corrupt human tornado, And so I know that he
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Speaker 5: knows that this wasn't on the level. I don't know
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Speaker 5: that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we
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Speaker 5: know a lot and are learning more every day, and.
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Speaker 4: History will probably sort it all out.
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Speaker 5: So of course he's obsessed with me, and I believe
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Speaker 5: that it's a guilty conscience insomuch as.
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Speaker 2: It's a guilty conscience quoting knows he's an illegitimate president.
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Speaker 2: I know that he knows this wasn't on the level.
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Speaker 2: History will probably sort it all out when we now
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Speaker 2: know the history.
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Speaker 4: Senator Well, I got to say, in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 4: I'm shocked to hear a Democrat saying that someone is
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Speaker 4: an illegitimate president, because I thought that was like undermining democracy.
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Speaker 4: I thought that was election denihalism. And you'll recall when
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Speaker 4: I went last year, last October on the View it
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Speaker 4: was all right, candidly, you want to talk about some
20:58
Speaker 4: of the most fun twenty four hours I had in
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Speaker 4: my life.
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Speaker 1: That was a great trip for you.
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Speaker 4: So on October evening at CRISP beautiful Fall evening, I
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Speaker 4: go up to New York City and I go to
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Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium, and in Yankee Stadium, I watch my Houston
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Speaker 4: Astros sweep the Yankees. In Yankee Stadium, it's game four.
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Speaker 4: We won four games in a row in the Alcs,
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Speaker 4: And as you know, I was in the second row
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Speaker 4: behind home plate, and I was in bright orange Astros colors,
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Speaker 4: proudly representing the Astros. And I got to say, there
21:37
Speaker 4: were at least one hundred, if not more, New Yorkers
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Speaker 4: who suggested that I do something anatomically impossible. They were
21:47
Speaker 4: fairly energized. They were fairly pissed. And look my response
21:51
Speaker 4: when they were mad, I just smile and point up
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Speaker 4: and say scoreboard, because look, I get it. If you're
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Speaker 4: a sports fan and you go into the opposing team,
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Speaker 4: stay and you sweep them, they're pissed. That was fun,
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Speaker 4: I will say. And by the way, the press and
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Speaker 4: the Twitter went crazy with all the people yelling expletives
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Speaker 4: at me, they didn't actually write down the hundreds of
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Speaker 4: New Yorkers who took pictures with me and said, even
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Speaker 4: in Yankee Stadium, thank you for fighting to save our country.
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Speaker 4: Now they also said, I hate the Astras and want
22:22
Speaker 4: the Yankees to win. Okay, that's great. That's sports. That's
22:24
Speaker 4: the beauty of sports as you root for your teams.
22:28
Speaker 4: The next day, after we swept the Yankees and went
22:32
Speaker 4: to the World Series and went on to win the
22:33
Speaker 4: World Series, not to irritate any of the sore sentiments
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Speaker 4: of other teams that did not win last year, but
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Speaker 4: the next day I went on the View, and the View,
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Speaker 4: if anything, the view was more hostile than being in
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Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium in Game four of the Alcs in Astras,
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Speaker 4: aren't the view, These rabid left wing women. And by
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Speaker 4: the way, they were nasty when the camera was off.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't even just like that's their persona. They look
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Speaker 4: at you men, they look at me, they look at conservatives.
23:05
Speaker 4: They hate us. But one of the things they said
23:08
Speaker 4: is they screamed, you are election deniers. And I pulled
23:12
Speaker 4: out quote after quote that I brought with me of
23:15
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton saying what you just played, of Joe Biden
23:18
Speaker 4: saying that George W. Bush was an illegitimate president over
23:23
Speaker 4: and over again, Democrats saying this, and they didn't know
23:27
Speaker 4: what to say. In response, They're just like, no, no,
23:30
Speaker 4: we have alternate facts. We don't believe democrats have ever
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Speaker 4: said that. And what's funny. A couple of weeks later,
23:38
Speaker 4: Chelsea Clinton, Hillary's daughter, was on the view and they
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Speaker 4: asked her. They said, Cruz said that your mom denied
23:45
Speaker 4: the election was legitimate. What do you say to that?
23:49
Speaker 4: And Chelsea was perfectly happy to repeat their talking points
23:52
Speaker 4: and say, oh, my mom never said that. Now, mind you,
23:56
Speaker 4: what Hillary said is public record. She said that repeatedly,
23:59
Speaker 4: that he's an illegitim at president. Why because Democrats are
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Speaker 4: willing to abuse government and to lie when they don't
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Speaker 4: get the political outcome they want.
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Speaker 1: No doubt. There's also another part of this.
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Speaker 2: It's infuriating for I think so many Americans listening center,
24:17
Speaker 2: and that's the fact you just mentioned obviously Hillary Clinton there,
24:21
Speaker 2: but you mentioned James call Me. You have Andrew McCabe,
24:24
Speaker 2: you have Peter Struck, you have Lisa Page How, You've
24:28
Speaker 2: got the FISA judges. You've brought Rod Rosenstein, you have
24:33
Speaker 2: Christopher Ray, you have Lisa Monico, you have John Brennan,
24:39
Speaker 2: You've got James Clapper, Christopher Steele, and John Podesta.
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Speaker 4: So, Ben, are you trying to piss me off like
24:48
Speaker 4: like with with that array of names. I'm sitting here
24:52
Speaker 4: very common, peaceful, and you and you really are like
24:55
Speaker 4: pushing my buttons.
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Speaker 2: It's my job, sir, it's my I get paid to
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Speaker 2: do this. But you listen to that list.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, the dollar an hour we pay you,
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Speaker 4: we'll double it right now.
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Speaker 1: Thank you? Good?
25:07
Speaker 2: That was I like that because that was a hell
25:09
Speaker 2: of a montage of guilty people I just mentioned. So
25:12
Speaker 2: I deserve a bonus for that. But there are people
25:15
Speaker 2: that are going to listen. They're going to say, look,
25:17
Speaker 2: it's infuriating that this Germ report is confirming that Russian
25:21
Speaker 2: collusion was a lie, and if you have a brain,
25:23
Speaker 2: we all knew that since day one. But knowing that
25:27
Speaker 2: these people that we just mentioned were guilty of doing
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Speaker 2: this and they're all going to walk around, is there
25:36
Speaker 2: going to be any accountability for them?
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Speaker 4: Sadly, I'm not convinced there will be. The New York
25:44
Speaker 4: Times and the Washington Post both won Pulitzer prizes for
25:49
Speaker 4: their reporting on this garbage Russian collusion story. We now
25:54
Speaker 4: know from the Durham Report that the story was a
25:56
Speaker 4: lie from day one, and yet I feel absolutely certain
26:01
Speaker 4: the New York Times will not return their Pulitzer. The
26:04
Speaker 4: Washington Posts will not return their pulitzer. The reporters who
26:09
Speaker 4: reported on lies, who were complicit with lies, who these
26:12
Speaker 4: FBI and DJ people were leaking to like sieves to
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Speaker 4: spread the lies, they will continue to go to parties,
26:19
Speaker 4: to go to professional gatherings where they will be introduced
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Speaker 4: as the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and they are literally
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Speaker 4: lying propagandists. If there was a shred of integrity in
26:31
Speaker 4: the New York Times of the Washington Post, they'd return
26:34
Speaker 4: the Pulitzers and say we're sorry, we're participating a lie.
26:38
Speaker 4: The chances of that happening are zero because there's not
26:41
Speaker 4: a shred of integrity in them. But I will say also,
26:45
Speaker 4: as I read this report, listen, I'm glad that Durham
26:49
Speaker 4: has cataloged that these were lies, but I'm also angry.
26:54
Speaker 4: Durham was not a blogger. He was not someone who
26:58
Speaker 4: was just entitled to write some thoughts. He was not
27:01
Speaker 4: a podcaster. By the way, Durham was a special counsel
27:07
Speaker 4: with the power to bring indictments. I read this whole thing,
27:12
Speaker 4: and I say, mister Durham, who the hell did you indict?
27:16
Speaker 4: If we saw a massive dishonesty, if we saw a
27:20
Speaker 4: massive lie to the American people, if we saw a
27:23
Speaker 4: massive corruption of the Department of Justice and the FBI,
27:27
Speaker 4: bring an indictment, stand up and hold people to accountable.
27:31
Speaker 4: And there's a paragraph in Durham's report that makes me
27:34
Speaker 4: particularly angry. I just want to read it. This report
27:39
Speaker 4: does not recommend any wholesale changes in the guidelines and
27:42
Speaker 4: policies that the Department and the FBI now have in
27:46
Speaker 4: place to ensure proper conduct and accountability in how counterintelligence
27:51
Speaker 4: activities are carried out. Rather, it is intended to accurately
27:55
Speaker 4: describe the matters that fell under our review and to
27:58
Speaker 4: assist the Attorney Gen in determining how the Department and
28:01
Speaker 4: the FBI can do a better, more credible job. I
28:05
Speaker 4: gotta admit reading that is just. It puts me to sleep,
28:10
Speaker 4: but let me continue. Ultimately, of course, meeting these responsibilities
28:14
Speaker 4: comes down to the integrity of the people who take
28:17
Speaker 4: an oath to follow the guidelines. As an aside, their
28:19
Speaker 4: integrity was zero because they didn't follow the guidelines and
28:22
Speaker 4: they corrupted the process and policies currently in place, guidelines
28:28
Speaker 4: that date from the time of Attorney General Levi and
28:31
Speaker 4: that are designed to ensure the rule of law is upheld.
28:34
Speaker 4: As such, the answer is not the creation of new rules,
28:40
Speaker 4: but a renewed fidelity to the old. What utter and
28:45
Speaker 4: complete garbage if we've seen Look, I'm an alumnus to
28:51
Speaker 4: the Department of Justice. I revere the Department of Justice.
28:54
Speaker 4: In my role as Senator, I hear routinely from FBI agents,
29:00
Speaker 4: from DOJ prosecutors who are furious. How was our institution
29:07
Speaker 4: of law enforcement that is decidedly apolitical? How was it
29:13
Speaker 4: turned into corrupt and dishonest machinery that became the legal
29:18
Speaker 4: attack dogs of the Hillary Clinton Nappo Research Department. What
29:23
Speaker 4: John Durham did is say, this is all terrible, but
29:26
Speaker 4: we're not going to do anything. Nobody's going to be indicted,
29:29
Speaker 4: nobody's going to be fired, nobody's going to be held
29:31
Speaker 4: to consequence. Oh it's a shame. We just saw a
29:35
Speaker 4: bloodless coup unfold in our Department of Justice and FBI.
29:41
Speaker 4: But test tasks. Let's try not to do that again.
29:45
Speaker 4: Nobody's held accountable. That makes me angry. Mister Durham. You're
29:51
Speaker 4: not in charge of writing op eds. You have the
29:54
Speaker 4: power of convening a grand jury, you have the power
29:56
Speaker 4: of bringing indictments, and you failed in that task. What
30:02
Speaker 4: you described was an absolute dereliction of duty, and yet
30:07
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Speaker 4: So Barack Obama sadly was utterly complicit in this entire
32:47
Speaker 4: scheme to abuse the Department of Justice, to abuse the
32:51
Speaker 4: FBI to target his political opponent, to target the Republican
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Speaker 4: nominee who was running against Hillary Clinton to succeed him.
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Speaker 4: Let me tell you what the Durham Report concluded. The
33:03
Speaker 4: Durham Report concluded that the FBI was tipped off about
33:07
Speaker 4: the Hillary Clinton's plan to quote villify Donald Trump by
33:11
Speaker 4: tying him to Russian President Vladimir Putin, but it didn't
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Speaker 4: quote highly significant intelligence from a quote trusted foreign source
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Speaker 4: pointing to a Clinton campaign plan to villify Trump by
33:30
Speaker 4: tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention
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Speaker 4: from her own concerns relating to her use of a
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Speaker 4: private email server. The report continued, quote, Unlike the FBI's
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Speaker 4: opening of a full investigation of unknown members of the
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Speaker 4: Trump campaign based on raw, uncorroborated investigation, in this separate
33:48
Speaker 4: matter involving a purported Clinton campaign plan, the FBI never
33:53
Speaker 4: opened any type of inquiry, issued any taskings, employed any
33:59
Speaker 4: analytical personnel, or produced any analytical products in connection with
34:03
Speaker 4: the information. The report said that the lack of action
34:08
Speaker 4: by the FBI was despite the fact that the Clinton
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Speaker 4: plan was so significant that CIA Director John Brennan briefed
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Speaker 4: President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Attorney General Lorette Lynch,
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Speaker 4: FBI Director James Comy and other senior government officials days
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Speaker 4: after the tip was received. And the report continues quote
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Speaker 4: the speed and manner in which the FBI opened an
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Speaker 4: investigated crossfire hurricane during the presidential election season based on raw, unanalyzed,
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Speaker 4: and uncorroborated intelligence also reflected a noticeable departure from how
34:54
Speaker 4: it handled matters involving Hillary Clinton. This was corruption that
35:00
Speaker 4: went to the very top, and yet John Durham held
35:05
Speaker 4: nobody accountable.
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Speaker 1: No one.
35:08
Speaker 2: And that's the part here that I think people say
35:11
Speaker 2: is did he not have the power? And there's been
35:14
Speaker 2: debate on this. There's some saying he really didn't have
35:17
Speaker 2: the power to do anything. There's others saying that's bs. Yes,
35:21
Speaker 2: he had the power to do something. Senator, give me
35:24
Speaker 2: your reaction to that idea. Did what were his hands tied?
35:30
Speaker 2: In your opinion? Is there two sides this story that maybe, hey,
35:34
Speaker 2: all they would allow him to do is write what
35:36
Speaker 2: is in essence a fact finding out ed of Okay,
35:40
Speaker 2: here's what I found and this is what we've got.
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Speaker 1: But no one's going to get in trouble for anything.
35:44
Speaker 4: What utter nonsense. He was a special prosecutor. He could
35:48
Speaker 4: indicte anybody. He could indicite you, Ben ferguson tonight. Now,
35:53
Speaker 4: presumably there's no evidence, or at least not much, that
35:57
Speaker 4: you've committed a felony recently.
35:59
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm a conservative that speaks out. Isn't that enough?
36:02
Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: I thought that's them?
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Speaker 4: You know, it may well be. But look, he was
36:06
Speaker 4: a special prosecutor, had the ability to convene a grand
36:09
Speaker 4: jury and bring charges against anyone who committed illegal conduct.
36:13
Speaker 4: He didn't do that. There are some that are debating, well,
36:18
Speaker 4: it wasn't his job to recommend reforms to the Department
36:22
Speaker 4: of Justice procedures or the FBI procedures. And on some
36:27
Speaker 4: level that's true, and on some level, who cares. If
36:30
Speaker 4: he wanted to recommend reforms, he could have. He could
36:33
Speaker 4: have written that in the report and said, you know what,
36:35
Speaker 4: the current rules don't work, change them. That would have
36:38
Speaker 4: been something. But instead he went out of his way
36:41
Speaker 4: to say, Nope, the rules are fine, it's just here
36:44
Speaker 4: the bastards didn't follow them. And by the way, I'm
36:48
Speaker 4: not going to prosecute or indict any of them for
36:51
Speaker 4: not following them. We just are going to say in
36:54
Speaker 4: the future, it would be nice if people followed the rules. Now,
36:58
Speaker 4: that's true, but the job of a special prosecutor is
37:02
Speaker 4: to hold people to account. And I'm sitting here saying,
37:08
Speaker 4: we saw an attempt to mount a legal overthrow of
37:16
Speaker 4: our government, a legal undermining of democracy, both during the
37:22
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen election and after the twenty sixteen election. And
37:27
Speaker 4: at this point, who's being prosecuted, Who's going to jail,
37:32
Speaker 4: who's facing the consequences for that lawless attempt to prevent
37:37
Speaker 4: the legitimate election of a president and then their topple
37:40
Speaker 4: a legitimately elected president. And the answer is utterly nobody.
37:45
Speaker 4: But you know what, The New York Times in Washington
37:47
Speaker 4: Post had Pulitzer prizes, So that's good for them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least they got that.
37:52
Speaker 2: One other question I want to ask you, and that's
37:54
Speaker 2: about the rewriting of this story from the media. There
38:00
Speaker 2: was an interesting commentary that was put out by CNN
38:05
Speaker 2: by Jake Tapper, and there were people that wanted to
38:07
Speaker 2: give him credit for this. My initialy reaction and granted
38:11
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38:14
Speaker 2: a conservative commentator find the Comedies at CNN, But I
38:19
Speaker 2: don't give him credit for saying this because if they
38:21
Speaker 2: would have done their damn jobs early on, they would
38:24
Speaker 2: have known the story they were selling to undermine democracy
38:28
Speaker 2: and undermining the presidency for the entire time Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: was president.
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Speaker 1: Was a lie.
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Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, okay, well,
38:34
Speaker 2: now we're gonna maybe come clean and say it was
38:37
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Speaker 1: Listen to this, and then I want to get your reaction,
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Speaker 1: for it is.
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Speaker 7: Now here, it has dropped, and it might not have
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Speaker 7: produced everything of what some Republicans hold for. It is
38:46
Speaker 7: regardless devastating to the FBI, and to a degree it
38:51
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Speaker 4: Let's bring in CNNs.
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Speaker 4: Jake Tapper conflicted views on I've known Jake for twenty
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Speaker 4: five years. There was a time when he was a
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Speaker 4: young cub reporter, when he actually wanted to be a journalist,
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Speaker 4: when he cared about reporting the news, when he had integrity.
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Speaker 4: Once Trump became president, it broken. Jake is a shattered
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Speaker 4: husk of who he was. He hates Trump so much
41:21
Speaker 4: that he's embraced He's been part of CNN's self immolation,
41:26
Speaker 4: where he no longer reports on news. He is instead
41:30
Speaker 4: a rabid partisan. So I'm glad he said quote that
41:35
Speaker 4: this report is devastating to the FBI and to a
41:39
Speaker 4: degree it does exonerate Donald Trump. That was accurate. You
41:43
Speaker 4: know what Jake didn't say, And let me say on
41:46
Speaker 4: behalf of CNN I apologize for spending four years lying
41:49
Speaker 4: to you every day about this information. I apologize for
41:53
Speaker 4: CNN not caring about the countervailing facts. I apologize for
41:56
Speaker 4: CNN not investigating those facts. I apologize for CNN repeating
42:01
Speaker 4: the unverified leaks and lies that advanced this story that
42:05
Speaker 4: was based on total fabrication. I apologize for CNN not
42:09
Speaker 4: being journalists, not reporting news, not in fact reporting that
42:12
Speaker 4: this came from Hillary Clinton, that this came from the DNC,
42:15
Speaker 4: not reporting that the Steel report was an utter and
42:18
Speaker 4: complete lie, not telling you anything of the truth, because
42:21
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42:25
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42:44
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42:47
Speaker 4: And so I'm glad. Jake Tapper issued a sentence that
42:50
Speaker 4: acknowledged this. By the way, wasn't just Jake Tapper, other
42:53
Speaker 4: media outlets CBS News quote. After nearly four years of investigation,
42:57
Speaker 4: special counsel John Durham found that the FBI I lacked
43:01
Speaker 4: actual evidence to investigate then candidate Donald Trump's campaign in
43:06
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and relied on leeds quote funded by political
43:10
Speaker 4: opponents instead. That seems bad. It's almost like CBS should
43:15
Speaker 4: not have spent six years reporting on this garbage CNN's
43:20
Speaker 4: Aaron Perez quote. The bottom line in this the investigation
43:26
Speaker 4: found that the FBI failed in many many ways. Well,
43:29
Speaker 4: wait a second, CNN failed in many many ways, CBS
43:31
Speaker 4: failed in many many ways, NBC, ABC, MSNBC all failed
43:36
Speaker 4: in many many ways. MSNBC every night had fantasy sessions
43:42
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Speaker 4: just the corporate media democrats Adam Schiff said in twenty
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43:57
Speaker 4: in plain sight. Apparently there wasn't no, there was no evidence.
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Speaker 4: It was made up. It was made up by the
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Speaker 4: question now hangs over the White House. What could possibly
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Speaker 4: cause President Trump to put the interests of Russia over
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Speaker 4: those of the United States. Quote. Millions of Americans will
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Speaker 4: continue to wonder if the only possible explanation for this
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Speaker 4: dangerous behavior is the possibility that President Putin holds damaging
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Speaker 4: information over President Trump. Look, I got to admit this
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Speaker 4: pisses me off. Democrats were lying, the DOJ launched an
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Speaker 4: investigation with no evidence based on partisan hatred, and the
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Speaker 4: corporate media amplified those lies shamelessly. It is an utter
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Speaker 4: and complete failure of our system. And nobody's been men
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Speaker 4: held to account, nobody's prosecuted, nobody's fired, nobody's lost their job,
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Speaker 4: and they continue to do the same going forward.
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Speaker 2: This is I have a feeling why it's going to
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