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Neurodivergence and home education: when school is the safeguarding issue · Home Education Matters

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  Welcome
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  Home
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  Education
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  Matters,
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  the
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  weekly
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  podcast
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  supporting
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  you
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  on
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  your
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  home
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  education
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  journey.
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  Hello
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  another
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  episode
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  of
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  Home
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  Education
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  Matters.
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  And
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  today
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  I'm
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  joined
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  by
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  Emily
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  Fay,
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  who
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  is
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  a
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  neurodivergent
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  home
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  educating
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  mum
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  of
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  three,
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  which
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  should
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  be
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  on
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  a
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  badge
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  or
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  something
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  or
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  a
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  T
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  shirt.
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  And
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  that's
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  nice,
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  isn't
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  it?
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  podcast,
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  Emily.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  joining
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  me.
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  Do
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  tell
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  our
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  listeners
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  just
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  about
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  your
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  home
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  education
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  journey.
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  Yes.
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  So
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  often
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  wonder
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  when
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  I
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  sort
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  of
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  made
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  the
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  actual
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  decision
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  that
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  we
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  weren't
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  going
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  down
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  the
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  school
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  route.
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  And
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  that
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  I
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  can
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  specifically
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  say
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  that,
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  but
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  I
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  definitely
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  started
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  questioning
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  what
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  I
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  was
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  going
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  to
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  do.
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  I
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  mean,
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people,
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  you
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  know,
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  baby
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  and,
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  and
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  you
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  have
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  these
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  kind
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  of
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  ideas
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  of
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  what
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  it's
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  like
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  and
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  the
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  journey
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  that
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  you're
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  gonna
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  take
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  with
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  that
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  and,
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  and
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  the,
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  the
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  milestones
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  that
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  you're
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  gonna
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  hit
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  and
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  first
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  birthday
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  and
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  the
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  first
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  day
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  of
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  nursery
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  and
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  the,
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  and
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  then,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  first
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  day
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  of
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  school,
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  that's
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  a
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  huge
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  thing.
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  And
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  everyone
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  talks
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  about
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  it,
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  what
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  school
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  they're
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  gonna
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  go
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  to
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  and
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  oh,
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  you
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  know,
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  or
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  they'll
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  be
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  starting
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  school
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  soon.
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  My
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  journey
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  into
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  motherhood
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  was
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  slightly
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  different
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  because
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  my
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  daughter
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  was
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  diagnosed
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  with
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  leukemia
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  at
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  nine
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  months
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  old.
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  It
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  was
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  a
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  very
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  rare
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  form
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  of
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  leukemia
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  and
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  she
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  had
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  a
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  genetic
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  condition
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  linked
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  to
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  that.
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  So
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  her
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  chance
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  of
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  survival
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  was
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  like
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  less
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  than
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  3%.
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  And
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  we
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  were
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  told,
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  yeah,
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  to
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  prepare
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  ourselves,
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  she
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  had
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  to
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  have
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  a
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  stem
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  cell
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  transplant.
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  It
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  was
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  her
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  only
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  chance
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  of
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  overcoming
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  things.
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  She
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  had
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  that
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  just
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  before
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  her
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  first
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  birthday
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  and
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  she's
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  11
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  now
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  and
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  she's
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  doing
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  amazing.
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  She's
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  a
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  miracle.
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  They,
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  they
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  didn't
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  expect
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  her
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  to
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  not
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  only
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  survive
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  but
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  also
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  to
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  do
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  as
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  well
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  as
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  she
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  is
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  doing.
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  She
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  has
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  hurdles
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  to
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  overcome
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  in
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  the
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  future,
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  but
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  she's
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  doing
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  amazing.
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  So
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  firsts
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  anyway
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  as
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  a
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  mother
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  because
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  we
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  were
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  in
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  a
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  hospital
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  from
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  nine
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  months
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  until
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  nearly
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  18
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  months.
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  And
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  then
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  after
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  that,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  had
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  a,
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  had
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  a
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  child
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  where
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  be
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  careful
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  what
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  she
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  did,
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  how
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  she
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  interacted.
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  She
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  had
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  delays
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  in
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  her
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  physical
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  development
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  and
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  things.
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  And
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  she
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  was
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  also
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  a
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  summer
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  born
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  baby.
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  So
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  my
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  husband
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  and
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  I,
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  we
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  discussed
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  home
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  ed
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  and
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  we
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  felt
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  that
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  that
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  was
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  the
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  way
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  that
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  we
• 2:56
  were
• 2:56
  going
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  to
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  go.
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  We
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  were
• 2:57
  exploring
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  that.
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  But
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  in
• 2:59
  the
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  first
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  instance
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  to
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  talk
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  to,
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  you
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  know,
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  because
• 3:02
  it's
• 3:02
  convincing
• 3:03
  other
• 3:03
  people
• 3:03
  around
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  you
• 3:03
  and
• 3:04
  it's
• 3:05
  the
• 3:05
  pressure
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  from
• 3:06
  people
• 3:06
  around
• 3:06
  you
• 3:06
  can
• 3:07
  be
• 3:07
  really
• 3:07
  hard.
• 3:08
  We
• 3:09
  said,
• 3:09
  we're
• 3:09
  delaying.
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  She
• 3:11
  was
• 3:11
  a
• 3:11
  summer
• 3:11
  born
• 3:12
  baby,
• 3:12
  we
• 3:12
  could
• 3:12
  do
• 3:12
  that
• 3:12
  anyway.
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  You
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  know,
• 3:13
  when
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  she
• 3:14
  got
• 3:14
  to
• 3:14
  that
• 3:14
  CSA
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  age
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  and
• 3:15
  you
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  kind
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  of
• 3:16
  feel
• 3:16
  that
• 3:16
  pressure,
• 3:16
  you
• 3:17
  should
• 3:17
  be
• 3:17
  applying
• 3:17
  for
• 3:17
  schools
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  stuff,
• 3:18
  we
• 3:18
  were
• 3:18
  like,
• 3:18
  it's
• 3:19
  fine
• 3:19
  because
• 3:19
  we're
• 3:19
  just,
• 3:21
  we're
• 3:21
  still
• 3:21
  doing
• 3:21
  our
• 3:21
  thing.
• 3:22
  And
• 3:22
  it
• 3:22
  gave
• 3:22
  us
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  chance
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  kind
• 3:23
  of
• 3:24
  really
• 3:24
  get
• 3:24
  into
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  swing
• 3:25
  of,
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  home
• 3:26
  ed.
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  And
• 3:27
  by
• 3:27
  then
• 3:27
  I
• 3:28
  had
• 3:29
  three.
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  Three
• 3:31
  under
• 3:31
  five.
• 3:32
  I
• 3:33
  don't
• 3:33
  recommend
• 3:33
  it.
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  So
• 3:35
  I
• 3:36
  was
• 3:36
  balancing
• 3:36
  all
• 3:36
  of
• 3:37
  that
• 3:37
  as
• 3:37
  well.
• 3:37
  And
• 3:37
  I
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  like,
• 3:38
  do
• 3:38
  you
• 3:38
  know
• 3:38
  what?
• 3:38
  Throwing
• 3:39
  a
• 3:39
  school
• 3:39
  run
• 3:39
  into
• 3:40
  this
• 3:41
  would
• 3:41
  be
• 3:41
  easier
• 3:42
  just
• 3:42
  to
• 3:42
  have
• 3:42
  them
• 3:42
  all
• 3:42
  at
• 3:42
  home
• 3:43
  than
• 3:43
  having
• 3:44
  to,
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  kind
• 3:44
  of
• 3:45
  do
• 3:45
  that.
• 3:45
  So
• 3:46
  we,
• 3:46
  we
• 3:46
  started,
• 3:47
  you
• 3:47
  know,
• 3:47
  joining
• 3:48
  groups
• 3:48
  and
• 3:48
  getting
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  know
• 3:49
  other
• 3:49
  people
• 3:49
  and
• 3:50
  things
• 3:50
  and,
• 3:51
  and
• 3:51
  more
• 3:51
  and
• 3:51
  more
• 3:51
  I
• 3:52
  started
• 3:52
  thinking,
• 3:52
  but
• 3:54
  this
• 3:54
  is
• 3:54
  working
• 3:55
  for
• 3:55
  us,
• 3:56
  right?
• 3:56
  And
• 3:57
  suddenly
• 3:58
  going
• 3:58
  into
• 3:58
  school
• 3:58
  and
• 3:59
  things.
• 3:59
  And
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  also
• 4:02
  had
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  bit
• 4:02
  of
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  trust
• 4:03
  issue
• 4:03
  with
• 4:03
  school.
• 4:04
  Imogen
• 4:05
  had
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  lot
• 4:05
  of
• 4:06
  additional
• 4:06
  needs
• 4:07
  and
• 4:08
  I
• 4:09
  did
• 4:09
  speak
• 4:09
  to
• 4:10
  some
• 4:10
  schools.
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  did
• 4:10
  look
• 4:11
  into
• 4:11
  it.
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  didn't
• 4:12
  want
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  make
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  decision
• 4:14
  solely
• 4:15
  from
• 4:17
  looking
• 4:17
  back
• 4:17
  at
• 4:18
  my
• 4:18
  own
• 4:18
  experiences
• 4:19
  of
• 4:19
  school
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  thinking
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  also
• 4:21
  wanting
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  keep
• 4:22
  my
• 4:22
  daughter
• 4:22
  close
• 4:22
  to
• 4:23
  me
• 4:23
  because
• 4:23
  obviously
• 4:24
  I'd
• 4:24
  nearly
• 4:24
  lost
• 4:25
  her
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  thought
• 4:25
  of
• 4:26
  suddenly
• 4:26
  giving
• 4:26
  her
• 4:27
  away
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  strangers
• 4:29
  scared
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  life
• 4:29
  out
• 4:29
  of
• 4:30
  me.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  didn't
• 4:30
  want
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  make
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  decision
• 4:31
  purely
• 4:32
  from
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  kind
• 4:32
  of
• 4:33
  fear
• 4:33
  point
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  view.
• 4:34
  So
• 4:34
  I
• 4:35
  wanted
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  make
• 4:35
  it
• 4:35
  from
• 4:35
  an
• 4:35
  empowered
• 4:36
  point
• 4:36
  of
• 4:36
  view.
• 4:36
  So
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  did.
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  spoke
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  schools
• 4:38
  and
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  couldn't
• 4:39
  get
• 4:40
  any
• 4:41
  school
• 4:41
  to
• 4:42
  give
• 4:42
  me
• 4:43
  any
• 4:44
  reassurance
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  my
• 4:45
  daughter's
• 4:46
  needs
• 4:47
  would
• 4:48
  be
• 4:48
  met.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  thought,
• 4:51
  well,
• 4:51
  hold
• 4:52
  on,
• 4:52
  there's
• 4:52
  no
• 4:52
  other
• 4:52
  situation
• 4:53
  that
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  would
• 4:54
  put
• 4:54
  my
• 4:55
  child
• 4:55
  in
• 4:56
  if
• 4:56
  I
• 4:56
  wasn't
• 4:57
  sure
• 4:57
  their
• 4:57
  needs
• 4:57
  were
• 4:58
  going
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  be
• 4:58
  met.
• 4:58
  Is
• 4:59
  that,
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  know,
• 5:00
  as
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  parent
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  want
• 5:01
  to
• 5:02
  protect
• 5:02
  your
• 5:02
  child,
• 5:02
  right?
• 5:03
  And
• 5:03
  then
• 5:03
  we're
• 5:03
  told
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  just
• 5:04
  go
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  put
• 5:04
  them
• 5:05
  into,
• 5:06
  into
• 5:06
  a
• 5:07
  school
• 5:07
  environment,
• 5:07
  into
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  environment
• 5:08
  of
• 5:09
  other
• 5:10
  people.
• 5:10
  And
• 5:11
  without
• 5:11
  that
• 5:12
  reassurance
• 5:13
  that
• 5:15
  they're
• 5:16
  going
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  receive
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  same
• 5:17
  level
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  care
• 5:18
  that
• 5:19
  you
• 5:19
  are
• 5:19
  giving
• 5:19
  them
• 5:20
  at
• 5:20
  home.
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  that
• 5:22
  for
• 5:22
  me
• 5:23
  was
• 5:23
  the
• 5:24
  tipping
• 5:24
  point.
• 5:24
  I
• 5:25
  was
• 5:25
  like,
• 5:26
  without
• 5:26
  that
• 5:26
  reassurance,
• 5:28
  without
• 5:29
  that
• 5:29
  wanting
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  understand
• 5:31
  my
• 5:32
  unique
• 5:32
  child's
• 5:33
  needs
• 5:34
  and
• 5:35
  being
• 5:36
  able
• 5:36
  to
• 5:37
  help
• 5:37
  them
• 5:37
  with
• 5:37
  that,
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  was
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  no
• 5:39
  brainer
• 5:40
  for
• 5:40
  me.
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  was
• 5:41
  like,
• 5:41
  no,
• 5:41
  she
• 5:41
  stays
• 5:42
  with
• 5:42
  me.
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  can,
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  can
• 5:43
  meet
• 5:43
  these
• 5:44
  needs.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:45
  there
• 5:45
  was
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  fear,
• 5:46
  you
• 5:47
  know,
• 5:47
  can
• 5:47
  I
• 5:48
  do
• 5:48
  it?
• 5:48
  Am
• 5:49
  I
• 5:50
  qualified
• 5:50
  enough?
• 5:51
  You
• 5:52
  know,
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  my
• 5:53
  father
• 5:53
  likes
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  tell
• 5:54
  me
• 5:54
  regularly
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  you
• 5:56
  know.
• 5:56
  Yes,
• 5:56
  but
• 5:56
  when
• 5:56
  she
• 5:57
  start,
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  know,
• 5:57
  once
• 5:57
  she's
• 5:58
  secondary
• 5:58
  school
• 5:58
  age,
• 5:59
  you
• 5:59
  won't
• 5:59
  be
• 5:59
  able,
• 5:59
  you
• 6:00
  won't,
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  know,
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  know,
• 6:01
  you
• 6:01
  don't
• 6:01
  have
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  skills
• 6:02
  to,
• 6:02
  to
• 6:03
  teach
• 6:03
  her
• 6:03
  at
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  level
• 6:04
  and
• 6:04
  blah,
• 6:04
  blah,
• 6:04
  blah.
• 6:05
  And
• 6:06
  you
• 6:06
  know,
• 6:06
  you,
• 6:06
  you
• 6:07
  do,
• 6:07
  there's
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  lot
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  outside
• 6:08
  pressure.
• 6:09
  Can
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  give
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  level
• 6:11
  of
• 6:11
  education
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  your
• 6:13
  child?
• 6:14
  And
• 6:15
  my
• 6:15
  counter
• 6:16
  argument
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  that
• 6:17
  is,
• 6:18
  can
• 6:18
  you
• 6:19
  give
• 6:19
  my
• 6:19
  child
• 6:20
  the
• 6:21
  level
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  care
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  they
• 6:23
  need
• 6:23
  to
• 6:24
  support
• 6:24
  them
• 6:24
  in
• 6:24
  that?
• 6:25
  Because
• 6:27
  if
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  can't
• 6:28
  provide
• 6:29
  them
• 6:29
  with
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  perfect
• 6:30
  environment
• 6:31
  for
• 6:31
  them
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  absorb
• 6:32
  whatever
• 6:32
  they
• 6:32
  need
• 6:32
  to
• 6:33
  absorb,
• 6:34
  if
• 6:34
  you
• 6:34
  can't
• 6:35
  do
• 6:35
  that,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  can
• 6:36
  be
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  best
• 6:37
  teacher
• 6:38
  in
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  world.
• 6:39
  My
• 6:39
  child
• 6:40
  is
• 6:40
  not
• 6:40
  going
• 6:40
  to
• 6:42
  learn.
• 6:42
  They're
• 6:42
  not
• 6:43
  going
• 6:43
  to
• 6:44
  make
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  progress
• 6:46
  that
• 6:46
  they
• 6:47
  have
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  ability
• 6:47
  to
• 6:48
  make
• 6:48
  because
• 6:48
  the
• 6:49
  environment
• 6:49
  around
• 6:49
  them
• 6:50
  isn't,
• 6:50
  isn't
• 6:51
  correct.
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  know
• 6:52
  because
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  that
• 6:53
  child.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  was
• 6:55
  that
• 6:55
  child
• 6:55
  in
• 6:56
  that
• 6:56
  environment.
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  was
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  child
• 6:58
  that
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  told,
• 6:59
  you
• 6:59
  have
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  ability
• 7:00
  to
• 7:00
  do
• 7:01
  so
• 7:01
  much
• 7:01
  more.
• 7:01
  Why
• 7:02
  aren't
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  trying
• 7:02
  harder?
• 7:03
  You,
• 7:03
  you're
• 7:04
  an
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  star
• 7:05
  pupil
• 7:05
  but
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:06
  getting
• 7:07
  B's
• 7:07
  and
• 7:07
  C's.
• 7:08
  Why?
• 7:08
  Why?
• 7:08
  Why?
• 7:09
  Because
• 7:09
  I'm
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  an
• 7:10
  environment
• 7:11
  that
• 7:13
  isn't
• 7:13
  allowing
• 7:14
  me
• 7:15
  to
• 7:16
  excel
• 7:18
  and
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  felt
• 7:19
  that
• 7:19
  my
• 7:20
  daughters
• 7:20
  were
• 7:20
  going
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  be
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  same.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:24
  as
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  said,
• 7:25
  I'm
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  neurodivergent
• 7:27
  mother.
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  am
• 7:29
  diagnosed
• 7:30
  autistic,
• 7:32
  but
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  wasn't
• 7:32
  diagnosed
• 7:34
  until
• 7:34
  I
• 7:35
  was
• 7:35
  in
• 7:35
  my
• 7:35
  30s
• 7:36
  and
• 7:37
  I'm
• 7:37
  undiagnosed
• 7:38
  ADHD
• 7:39
  as
• 7:40
  well.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:41
  my
• 7:41
  daughters
• 7:42
  are
• 7:43
  also
• 7:43
  neurodivergent.
• 7:45
  Having
• 7:46
  gone
• 7:46
  through
• 7:47
  my
• 7:47
  life
• 7:48
  feeling
• 7:49
  misunderstood,
• 7:51
  feeling
• 7:51
  like
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  was
• 7:52
  less
• 7:53
  than
• 7:53
  because
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  wasn't
• 7:54
  hitting
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  targets
• 7:55
  that
• 7:56
  were
• 7:56
  expected
• 7:56
  of
• 7:57
  me,
• 7:57
  that
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  wasn't
• 7:59
  doing
• 7:59
  what
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  was
• 8:00
  supposed
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  be
• 8:01
  doing.
• 8:02
  And
• 8:02
  then
• 8:02
  the
• 8:03
  impact
• 8:03
  that
• 8:04
  had
• 8:04
  on
• 8:04
  my
• 8:04
  mental
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  physical
• 8:06
  well
• 8:06
  being
• 8:07
  for
• 8:08
  me,
• 8:08
  I
• 8:09
  wasn't
• 8:09
  prepared
• 8:10
  to
• 8:11
  take
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  risk
• 8:11
  with
• 8:12
  my
• 8:12
  daughters
• 8:13
  of
• 8:13
  impacting
• 8:14
  their
• 8:14
  mental
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  physical
• 8:15
  health.
• 8:17
  For
• 8:18
  what?
• 8:19
  For
• 8:19
  them
• 8:20
  to,
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  be
• 8:21
  like
• 8:22
  me
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  come
• 8:22
  out
• 8:22
  with,
• 8:23
  you
• 8:24
  know,
• 8:24
  be
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  average
• 8:25
  student.
• 8:26
  You
• 8:26
  know,
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  was
• 8:26
  never
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  bottom
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  anything,
• 8:29
  but
• 8:29
  I
• 8:29
  was
• 8:30
  just,
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  sat
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  middle
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  I,
• 8:31
  I,
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  wasn't
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  star
• 8:34
  student
• 8:35
  of
• 8:35
  anything.
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  was
• 8:37
  frequently
• 8:37
  told
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  needed
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  be
• 8:39
  trying
• 8:39
  harder,
• 8:40
  trying
• 8:40
  better,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  could
• 8:41
  do.
• 8:42
  And,
• 8:42
  and
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  carried
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  through
• 8:44
  and,
• 8:44
  and
• 8:45
  I'm
• 8:45
  now
• 8:46
  as
• 8:46
  an
• 8:46
  adult,
• 8:46
  I'm
• 8:47
  doing
• 8:47
  that,
• 8:47
  undoing
• 8:48
  those
• 8:48
  beliefs
• 8:50
  that
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  wasn't
• 8:52
  good
• 8:53
  enough,
• 8:53
  that
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  wasn't,
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  was
• 8:55
  lazy,
• 8:55
  that
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  wasn't
• 8:56
  trying
• 8:57
  hard
• 8:57
  enough.
• 8:57
  That,
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  also
• 8:59
  that
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  was
• 9:00
  pedantic
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  precocious
• 9:02
  because
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  often
• 9:03
  questioned
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  teachers
• 9:05
  because
• 9:05
  my
• 9:05
  autistic
• 9:06
  brain
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  like,
• 9:07
  hold
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  there.
• 9:08
  And
• 9:08
  I
• 9:09
  realize
• 9:09
  now
• 9:09
  it
• 9:09
  was
• 9:10
  just
• 9:11
  me,
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  know,
• 9:12
  trying
• 9:13
  to
• 9:13
  understand.
• 9:13
  But
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  them,
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  was
• 9:15
  being
• 9:16
  difficult.
• 9:16
  I
• 9:17
  was
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  difficult
• 9:18
  child
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  have
• 9:19
  in
• 9:19
  their
• 9:19
  classroom
• 9:20
  because
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  wasn't
• 9:20
  just
• 9:21
  toeing
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  line
• 9:22
  and
• 9:23
  doing
• 9:23
  what
• 9:24
  they
• 9:24
  wanted
• 9:25
  me
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  do,
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  I
• 9:26
  didn't
• 9:26
  want
• 9:26
  that
• 9:27
  for
• 9:27
  my
• 9:27
  daughters.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:30
  as
• 9:31
  scary
• 9:32
  as
• 9:32
  going
• 9:32
  against
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  grain
• 9:33
  and
• 9:33
  home
• 9:33
  educating
• 9:34
  and
• 9:34
  that
• 9:34
  feeling
• 9:35
  of
• 9:36
  pressure
• 9:37
  that,
• 9:37
  you
• 9:38
  know,
• 9:39
  your
• 9:39
  children's
• 9:41
  academic
• 9:42
  success
• 9:43
  is
• 9:43
  on
• 9:43
  your
• 9:43
  shoulders,
• 9:46
  it's
• 9:46
  so
• 9:46
  freeing.
• 9:47
  I
• 9:48
  get
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  allow
• 9:49
  my
• 9:49
  children
• 9:49
  to
• 9:50
  follow
• 9:50
  their
• 9:50
  passions.
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  get
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  allow
• 9:52
  them
• 9:52
  to
• 9:53
  learn
• 9:53
  at
• 9:54
  their
• 9:54
  own
• 9:54
  speed.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:54
  one
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  the.
• 9:55
  One
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  the
• 9:56
  fascinating
• 9:56
  things
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  found
• 9:57
  is
• 9:57
  that
• 9:58
  I
• 9:59
  often
• 10:00
  do
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  lot,
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  lot
• 10:01
  with
• 10:01
  my
• 10:01
  girls
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  feel
• 10:02
  like
• 10:03
  there's.
• 10:03
  There's
• 10:03
  no
• 10:03
  progress
• 10:04
  being
• 10:04
  made.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:05
  then
• 10:05
  all
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  sudden,
• 10:07
  like,
• 10:07
  my
• 10:07
  middle
• 10:07
  daughter,
• 10:08
  she
• 10:08
  went
• 10:08
  from
• 10:09
  not
• 10:09
  reading
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  was
• 10:10
  like
• 10:10
  such.
• 10:11
  A.
• 10:12
  Felt
• 10:12
  like
• 10:12
  such
• 10:12
  a
• 10:13
  struggle
• 10:13
  because
• 10:13
  she
• 10:14
  wanted
• 10:14
  to.
• 10:14
  To
• 10:15
  learn,
• 10:15
  but
• 10:15
  she
• 10:15
  was
• 10:15
  just
• 10:16
  so
• 10:16
  struggling
• 10:16
  for
• 10:17
  so
• 10:17
  long
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  then
• 10:19
  all
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  sudden
• 10:21
  she
• 10:21
  was
• 10:21
  reading
• 10:24
  and.
• 10:24
  I'm
• 10:24
  really
• 10:24
  sorry
• 10:25
  about
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  noise
• 10:25
  in
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  background.
• 10:26
  It's
• 10:27
  cute.
• 10:27
  What's
• 10:27
  she
• 10:27
  doing?
• 10:28
  It's.
• 10:29
  I've
• 10:29
  got
• 10:29
  two
• 10:29
  kittens
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  they're
• 10:30
  going
• 10:30
  a
• 10:31
  bit
• 10:31
  crazy.
• 10:31
  The
• 10:32
  kittens?
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  thought
• 10:32
  it
• 10:33
  was
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  children.
• 10:33
  It's
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  kittens.
• 10:35
  It's
• 10:35
  very
• 10:35
  cute.
• 10:35
  I'm
• 10:36
  ever
• 10:36
  so
• 10:36
  sorry
• 10:36
  about
• 10:36
  that.
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  like
• 10:38
  kitten
• 10:39
  background.
• 10:39
  Kitten.
• 10:40
  Kitten
• 10:40
  sound.
• 10:41
  Yeah,
• 10:41
  yeah.
• 10:42
  They're
• 10:42
  actually
• 10:43
  destroying
• 10:44
  one
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  my
• 10:44
  daughter's
• 10:45
  creations.
• 10:46
  Are
• 10:46
  they?
• 10:46
  Do
• 10:46
  you
• 10:47
  want
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  stop
• 10:47
  them?
• 10:49
  Well,
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  did
• 10:49
  tell
• 10:50
  her
• 10:50
  not
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  leave
• 10:50
  it
• 10:50
  on
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  floor.
• 10:51
  So
• 10:52
  this
• 10:52
  is
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  life
• 10:52
  lesson.
• 10:54
  It's
• 10:54
  interesting,
• 10:55
  you're.
• 10:55
  When
• 10:55
  you
• 10:56
  were
• 10:56
  talking
• 10:56
  there,
• 10:57
  it
• 10:57
  really
• 10:58
  reminded
• 10:58
  me
• 10:58
  of
• 10:59
  that.
• 10:59
  Of
• 11:00
  that
• 11:00
  thing
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  hear
• 11:01
  bandied
• 11:02
  around
• 11:02
  every
• 11:02
  now
• 11:02
  and
• 11:03
  then
• 11:03
  about
• 11:03
  safeguarding
• 11:04
  and
• 11:05
  about
• 11:05
  how
• 11:06
  home
• 11:06
  education
• 11:06
  is
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  safeguarding
• 11:07
  issue.
• 11:08
  I'm
• 11:08
  doing
• 11:08
  little
• 11:09
  inverted
• 11:09
  commas
• 11:09
  as
• 11:09
  I
• 11:10
  say
• 11:10
  that,
• 11:10
  and
• 11:11
  how
• 11:11
  sometimes
• 11:13
  parliamentary
• 11:13
  discussions
• 11:14
  kind
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  equate
• 11:14
  the
• 11:15
  two
• 11:15
  across.
• 11:16
  And
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  was
• 11:16
  thinking
• 11:16
  as
• 11:16
  you
• 11:17
  were
• 11:17
  talking
• 11:17
  that
• 11:17
  actually
• 11:18
  for
• 11:18
  you,
• 11:19
  school
• 11:19
  was
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  safeguarding
• 11:20
  issue,
• 11:20
  wasn't
• 11:20
  it?
• 11:21
  Both
• 11:21
  physically,
• 11:22
  emotionally.
• 11:23
  It
• 11:23
  was.
• 11:23
  It
• 11:24
  was
• 11:24
  a
• 11:24
  safeguarding
• 11:25
  thing,
• 11:25
  wasn't
• 11:25
  it,
• 11:25
  for
• 11:25
  you?
• 11:26
  Yeah,
• 11:26
  absolutely.
• 11:28
  It
• 11:28
  really
• 11:28
  was.
• 11:29
  And
• 11:30
  as
• 11:30
  a
• 11:30
  child,
• 11:32
  it
• 11:32
  was
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  safeguarding
• 11:33
  issue
• 11:33
  for
• 11:33
  me.
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  was.
• 11:34
  I
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  overlooked
• 11:36
  child.
• 11:37
  You
• 11:37
  know,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:38
  actually.
• 11:39
  I
• 11:40
  actually
• 11:40
  got
• 11:40
  locked
• 11:41
  in
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  school
• 11:42
  once.
• 11:43
  My
• 11:43
  friend
• 11:44
  and
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  got
• 11:44
  forgotten.
• 11:45
  We
• 11:45
  were.
• 11:45
  Well,
• 11:46
  her
• 11:47
  mum
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  late
• 11:47
  picking
• 11:48
  us
• 11:48
  up.
• 11:48
  We'd
• 11:48
  been.
• 11:48
  We'd
• 11:49
  done
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  netball
• 11:49
  match
• 11:49
  after
• 11:50
  school
• 11:50
  and
• 11:51
  we'd
• 11:51
  gone
• 11:51
  up
• 11:51
  to
• 11:51
  the
• 11:52
  library
• 11:52
  and
• 11:53
  we
• 11:53
  were
• 11:53
  waiting
• 11:53
  up
• 11:54
  there
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  all
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  teachers
• 11:55
  forgot
• 11:56
  about
• 11:56
  us
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  they
• 11:57
  went
• 11:57
  home
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  we
• 11:58
  went
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  go
• 11:58
  out
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  school
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  we
• 11:59
  couldn't
• 11:59
  get
• 11:59
  out
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  we
• 12:00
  were
• 12:00
  locked
• 12:00
  in.
• 12:02
  So,
• 12:03
  yeah,
• 12:03
  school
• 12:03
  is
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  safeguarding
• 12:04
  issue
• 12:05
  for
• 12:05
  me.
• 12:05
  And
• 12:06
  without
• 12:06
  reassurance
• 12:07
  that,
• 12:07
  you
• 12:08
  know,
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  appreciate
• 12:09
  they
• 12:09
  do
• 12:09
  safeguarding
• 12:10
  training,
• 12:10
  I
• 12:11
  appreciate
• 12:11
  that
• 12:12
  teachers
• 12:13
  are
• 12:13
  trained,
• 12:13
  but
• 12:14
  they
• 12:14
  also
• 12:14
  have
• 12:14
  30
• 12:15
  plus
• 12:15
  children
• 12:17
  that
• 12:17
  they
• 12:17
  are
• 12:18
  looking
• 12:18
  after.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:21
  I,
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  love
• 12:22
  the
• 12:23
  fact
• 12:23
  that
• 12:24
  my
• 12:24
  children
• 12:25
  get
• 12:26
  to
• 12:27
  interact
• 12:28
  with
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  really
• 12:29
  wide
• 12:29
  range
• 12:30
  of
• 12:32
  people.
• 12:32
  Adults,
• 12:34
  older
• 12:34
  children,
• 12:34
  younger
• 12:35
  children,
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  know,
• 12:37
  loads
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  different
• 12:37
  people
• 12:38
  in,
• 12:38
  in
• 12:38
  various
• 12:40
  settings,
• 12:41
  but
• 12:42
  they
• 12:42
  also
• 12:42
  have
• 12:43
  me.
• 12:44
  So
• 12:44
  my
• 12:44
  children,
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  know,
• 12:46
  they
• 12:46
  do,
• 12:47
  they
• 12:47
  get
• 12:48
  into
• 12:48
  situations
• 12:49
  where
• 12:49
  they
• 12:50
  are,
• 12:51
  you
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:53
  falling
• 12:54
  out
• 12:54
  or,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  having
• 12:55
  little
• 12:56
  disagreements
• 12:57
  or
• 12:57
  maybe
• 12:57
  someone
• 12:58
  says
• 12:58
  something
• 12:58
  to
• 12:58
  them
• 12:58
  or
• 12:59
  they
• 12:59
  feel
• 12:59
  hurt
• 13:00
  and
• 13:00
  I'm
• 13:01
  there
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  I
• 13:02
  get
• 13:02
  to
• 13:03
  help
• 13:03
  them
• 13:04
  navigate
• 13:05
  through
• 13:05
  that
• 13:05
  in
• 13:05
  the
• 13:06
  moment.
• 13:07
  And
• 13:08
  for
• 13:09
  me,
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  is
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  huge
• 13:11
  plus
• 13:12
  because
• 13:15
  one
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  biggest
• 13:15
  things
• 13:16
  that
• 13:16
  people
• 13:16
  say
• 13:17
  is
• 13:18
  what
• 13:18
  about
• 13:18
  socializing?
• 13:19
  This,
• 13:19
  this
• 13:20
  is
• 13:20
  another
• 13:20
  huge
• 13:20
  thing
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  gets
• 13:21
  thrown
• 13:21
  around
• 13:22
  when
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  say
• 13:22
  you're
• 13:22
  home
• 13:23
  educating
• 13:23
  about
• 13:23
  how
• 13:24
  do
• 13:24
  they
• 13:24
  socialize?
• 13:25
  Which
• 13:26
  I,
• 13:26
  which
• 13:27
  makes
• 13:27
  me
• 13:28
  laugh
• 13:28
  because
• 13:29
  don't
• 13:29
  we
• 13:29
  all
• 13:29
  remember
• 13:30
  being
• 13:30
  at
• 13:30
  school
• 13:30
  and
• 13:31
  being
• 13:31
  told
• 13:31
  it's
• 13:31
  not
• 13:31
  social
• 13:32
  time,
• 13:33
  this
• 13:34
  is
• 13:34
  the
• 13:34
  time
• 13:34
  to
• 13:34
  learn
• 13:34
  and
• 13:35
  you
• 13:35
  know,
• 13:35
  stop
• 13:36
  talking
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  back.
• 13:36
  You're
• 13:37
  not
• 13:37
  supposed
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  be,
• 13:37
  you
• 13:37
  know,
• 13:38
  socializing
• 13:39
  now.
• 13:39
  But
• 13:39
  that,
• 13:39
  but
• 13:40
  that
• 13:40
  biggest
• 13:40
  aspect,
• 13:41
  when
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  say
• 13:41
  you're
• 13:41
  home
• 13:41
  educating,
• 13:42
  another
• 13:43
  thing
• 13:43
  they
• 13:43
  say
• 13:43
  is
• 13:44
  that,
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  know,
• 13:44
  children,
• 13:45
  so
• 13:45
  sorry,
• 13:47
  children
• 13:48
  aren't.
• 13:48
  I'm
• 13:49
  only
• 13:49
  imagining
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  destruction
• 13:50
  going
• 13:51
  on
• 13:51
  in
• 13:51
  the
• 13:51
  background.
• 13:53
  Oh
• 13:53
  God.
• 13:54
  They
• 13:54
  always
• 13:54
  do
• 13:54
  this
• 13:55
  when
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  try
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  do
• 13:55
  anything.
• 13:56
  They're
• 13:56
  absolute
• 13:57
  menaces.
• 13:59
  And,
• 14:00
  but
• 14:00
  that's
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  other
• 14:02
  element
• 14:02
  that
• 14:03
  you,
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  get
• 14:04
  to
• 14:05
  support
• 14:05
  when
• 14:06
  you're
• 14:06
  home
• 14:06
  educating
• 14:07
  is
• 14:09
  them
• 14:09
  learning
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  socialize
• 14:10
  in
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  really
• 14:11
  positive
• 14:11
  way
• 14:12
  and
• 14:12
  them
• 14:12
  learning
• 14:13
  to
• 14:13
  navigate
• 14:14
  the
• 14:15
  intricacies
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  socialization
• 14:18
  by
• 14:19
  having
• 14:19
  that
• 14:19
  security
• 14:20
  of
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  there.
• 14:22
  And,
• 14:22
  and
• 14:23
  you
• 14:24
  know,
• 14:24
  we
• 14:25
  all
• 14:25
  know
• 14:25
  that
• 14:25
  thing
• 14:25
  of.
• 14:26
  Unless
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  deal
• 14:27
  with
• 14:28
  things
• 14:28
  in
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  moment
• 14:29
  with
• 14:29
  children,
• 14:30
  it's,
• 14:31
  you
• 14:31
  know,
• 14:31
  it's
• 14:31
  gone.
• 14:32
  It
• 14:32
  hasn't
• 14:32
  gone,
• 14:33
  it's
• 14:33
  there
• 14:33
  in
• 14:34
  them,
• 14:34
  but
• 14:34
  they've
• 14:35
  moved
• 14:35
  on.
• 14:35
  So
• 14:36
  it's.
• 14:36
  If
• 14:36
  something
• 14:36
  happens
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  school,
• 14:37
  by
• 14:37
  the
• 14:38
  time
• 14:38
  they
• 14:38
  come
• 14:38
  home,
• 14:38
  they
• 14:39
  may
• 14:39
  not
• 14:39
  tell
• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
  about
• 14:40
  it,
• 14:40
  but
• 14:40
  they're
• 14:40
  still
• 14:40
  carrying
• 14:40
  it.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:42
  for
• 14:42
  me,
• 14:43
  being
• 14:43
  able
• 14:44
  to
• 14:45
  have
• 14:45
  those
• 14:46
  interactions
• 14:47
  in
• 14:47
  it
• 14:47
  and
• 14:48
  deal
• 14:48
  with
• 14:48
  everything,
• 14:49
  not
• 14:49
  everything
• 14:50
  in
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  moment,
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  know,
• 14:51
  I'm
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  with
• 14:51
  my
• 14:51
  children
• 14:51
  24,
• 14:52
  7
• 14:52
  to
• 14:53
  get
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  break,
• 14:54
  but
• 14:55
  on
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  more
• 14:56
  frequent
• 14:56
  basis,
• 14:58
  it,
• 14:58
  it
• 14:58
  fills
• 14:59
  me
• 14:59
  with
• 14:59
  confidence
• 15:00
  as
• 15:00
  a
• 15:00
  mother
• 15:00
  that
• 15:01
  my
• 15:01
  children
• 15:01
  are,
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  know,
• 15:04
  have
• 15:04
  that
• 15:05
  support
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  that
• 15:05
  safety
• 15:06
  blanket.
• 15:06
  But
• 15:06
  also
• 15:07
  for
• 15:07
  them,
• 15:08
  they're,
• 15:08
  they're
• 15:08
  much
• 15:09
  more
• 15:09
  confident
• 15:09
  going
• 15:10
  into
• 15:10
  situations.
• 15:11
  You
• 15:11
  know,
• 15:11
  I,
• 15:12
  my
• 15:12
  children
• 15:12
  are.
• 15:16
  People
• 15:16
  always
• 15:16
  say,
• 15:16
  oh,
• 15:17
  they're,
• 15:17
  they're
• 15:17
  very
• 15:17
  quiet,
• 15:17
  they're
• 15:18
  very
• 15:18
  shy.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  they
• 15:20
  are,
• 15:22
  their
• 15:22
  neurodivergence
• 15:23
  is
• 15:23
  very
• 15:24
  similar
• 15:24
  to
• 15:24
  my
• 15:24
  own
• 15:25
  where
• 15:25
  I
• 15:25
  was
• 15:25
  labeled
• 15:26
  as
• 15:26
  shy
• 15:26
  as
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  child
• 15:28
  because
• 15:29
  I,
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  will
• 15:29
  always
• 15:30
  stand
• 15:30
  back
• 15:30
  in
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  situation.
• 15:32
  You
• 15:32
  know,
• 15:33
  I'm
• 15:33
  not
• 15:33
  going
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  shout
• 15:34
  over
• 15:34
  anybody.
• 15:35
  I'm
• 15:35
  not
• 15:35
  going
• 15:35
  to,
• 15:36
  you
• 15:37
  know,
• 15:37
  I'm
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  quieter
• 15:40
  version.
• 15:41
  I'm
• 15:41
  not
• 15:41
  an
• 15:42
  extrovert,
• 15:42
  I'm
• 15:42
  an
• 15:42
  introvert.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:44
  so
• 15:45
  that's
• 15:45
  playing
• 15:45
  out
• 15:46
  in
• 15:46
  my
• 15:46
  children
• 15:46
  as
• 15:47
  well.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  get
• 15:47
  a
• 15:47
  lot
• 15:48
  of
• 15:48
  people
• 15:48
  say,
• 15:48
  oh,
• 15:48
  your
• 15:48
  children
• 15:48
  are
• 15:49
  really
• 15:49
  placid.
• 15:50
  They're
• 15:50
  really.
• 15:50
  And
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  think
• 15:53
  until
• 15:53
  they're
• 15:54
  in
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  right
• 15:54
  environment
• 15:55
  and
• 15:55
  then
• 15:55
  they're
• 15:55
  really
• 15:56
  not
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  they're
• 15:57
  not
• 15:58
  placid.
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  find
• 15:58
  that
• 15:59
  very.
• 16:00
  A
• 16:00
  quite
• 16:00
  offensive
• 16:00
  term
• 16:01
  because
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  think
• 16:02
  that
• 16:02
  feels
• 16:02
  like
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  they're
• 16:03
  kind
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  just
• 16:05
  trying
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  fit
• 16:05
  in
• 16:05
  and
• 16:06
  they're
• 16:06
  not.
• 16:06
  Because
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  what
• 16:08
  I'm
• 16:08
  being
• 16:09
  able
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  teach
• 16:09
  them
• 16:09
  that
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  didn't
• 16:10
  have
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  opportunity
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  learn
• 16:12
  is
• 16:12
  boundaries.
• 16:14
  So
• 16:14
  although
• 16:14
  my
• 16:14
  children
• 16:15
  may
• 16:15
  come
• 16:15
  across
• 16:15
  as
• 16:16
  quiet,
• 16:16
  they
• 16:17
  are
• 16:17
  very
• 16:17
  boundaries
• 16:18
  and
• 16:18
  they
• 16:19
  are
• 16:19
  not
• 16:19
  afraid
• 16:19
  to
• 16:20
  say
• 16:21
  no
• 16:21
  or
• 16:21
  no
• 16:22
  thank
• 16:22
  you,
• 16:22
  or
• 16:22
  I
• 16:22
  don't
• 16:23
  like
• 16:23
  that,
• 16:23
  or
• 16:23
  please
• 16:23
  don't
• 16:23
  speak
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  me
• 16:24
  like
• 16:24
  that.
• 16:25
  And
• 16:26
  that's
• 16:26
  something
• 16:26
  that
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  felt
• 16:27
  was
• 16:28
  really,
• 16:28
  really
• 16:28
  important
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  be
• 16:29
  able
• 16:30
  to
• 16:30
  teach
• 16:30
  my.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:32
  particularly
• 16:33
  because
• 16:33
  they're
• 16:34
  introverted
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  particularly
• 16:35
  because
• 16:36
  they've
• 16:36
  got
• 16:36
  to
• 16:37
  learn
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  navigate
• 16:37
  in
• 16:38
  a
• 16:38
  world
• 16:38
  where
• 16:38
  there
• 16:38
  are
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  lot
• 16:39
  of
• 16:40
  extroverts
• 16:41
  and,
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  lot
• 16:41
  of
• 16:42
  people
• 16:42
  who
• 16:42
  will
• 16:42
  shout
• 16:42
  over
• 16:43
  them
• 16:43
  or
• 16:43
  who
• 16:43
  may
• 16:44
  try
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  do
• 16:44
  things.
• 16:45
  You
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:46
  one
• 16:47
  of
• 16:47
  my
• 16:47
  daughters
• 16:47
  in
• 16:47
  particular
• 16:48
  doesn't
• 16:48
  like
• 16:48
  touch.
• 16:49
  So
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  wanted
• 16:50
  to
• 16:50
  teach
• 16:50
  her
• 16:51
  from
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  young
• 16:51
  age
• 16:51
  that
• 16:52
  it
• 16:52
  was
• 16:52
  okay,
• 16:52
  particularly
• 16:53
  around
• 16:53
  adults,
• 16:54
  to
• 16:54
  say
• 16:55
  no.
• 16:56
  I,
• 16:56
  I,
• 16:56
  that
• 16:57
  makes
• 16:57
  me
• 16:57
  feel
• 16:57
  uncomfortable.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:59
  her
• 16:59
  saying
• 17:00
  that
• 17:00
  makes
• 17:00
  adults
• 17:01
  feel
• 17:01
  very
• 17:01
  uncomfortable.
• 17:03
  But
• 17:03
  it's
• 17:03
  really
• 17:04
  important,
• 17:04
  it's
• 17:04
  really
• 17:04
  important
• 17:05
  for
• 17:05
  them
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  learn
• 17:05
  boundaries
• 17:06
  with
• 17:06
  children
• 17:06
  and
• 17:07
  for
• 17:07
  her
• 17:07
  to
• 17:08
  learn
• 17:08
  that.
• 17:08
  So
• 17:08
  that,
• 17:09
  that
• 17:09
  was
• 17:09
  another.
• 17:10
  So,
• 17:11
  yeah,
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  safeguarding
• 17:12
  aspect,
• 17:12
  that
• 17:12
  kind
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  keeping
• 17:13
  the
• 17:14
  teaching
• 17:14
  them
• 17:14
  the
• 17:15
  skills
• 17:16
  to
• 17:16
  safeguard
• 17:16
  themselves.
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  felt
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  I
• 17:20
  could
• 17:20
  do
• 17:20
  that
• 17:21
  in
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  much
• 17:22
  more
• 17:22
  effective
• 17:23
  way
• 17:23
  than
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  felt
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  school
• 17:25
  would,
• 17:25
  would
• 17:25
  be
• 17:25
  able
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  do.
• 17:26
  Not
• 17:26
  because
• 17:27
  they're
• 17:27
  not
• 17:27
  skilled.
• 17:28
  I'm
• 17:28
  not
• 17:29
  saying
• 17:29
  that
• 17:29
  they
• 17:29
  don't
• 17:30
  have
• 17:30
  amazingly
• 17:31
  skilled
• 17:31
  people
• 17:32
  working
• 17:33
  in
• 17:33
  those
• 17:33
  environments
• 17:34
  and
• 17:34
  that
• 17:35
  some
• 17:35
  of
• 17:35
  those
• 17:35
  teachers
• 17:36
  would
• 17:36
  be
• 17:37
  really
• 17:37
  helpful
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  supportive.
• 17:39
  I
• 17:40
  don't
• 17:40
  think
• 17:40
  they
• 17:40
  have
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  capacity
• 17:43
  to
• 17:43
  do
• 17:43
  that.
• 17:45
  It's
• 17:45
  interesting
• 17:45
  you
• 17:46
  were
• 17:46
  saying
• 17:46
  about
• 17:46
  that,
• 17:47
  because
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  think
• 17:48
  that
• 17:49
  school
• 17:50
  inherently
• 17:50
  erodes
• 17:51
  people's
• 17:52
  boundaries.
• 17:52
  And
• 17:53
  it's
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  controversial
• 17:54
  statement,
• 17:54
  but
• 17:54
  I
• 17:55
  really
• 17:55
  stand
• 17:55
  by
• 17:55
  it.
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  did
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  podcast
• 17:57
  with
• 17:57
  Naomi
• 17:57
  Fisher
• 17:58
  about
• 17:58
  anxiety
• 17:59
  and
• 17:59
  about
• 18:00
  supporting
• 18:00
  your
• 18:00
  anxious
• 18:01
  child,
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  she
• 18:01
  said
• 18:02
  something
• 18:02
  very
• 18:02
  similar.
• 18:03
  She
• 18:03
  said
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  school
• 18:03
  system
• 18:04
  is
• 18:04
  set
• 18:04
  up
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  create
• 18:06
  anxiety
• 18:06
  because
• 18:07
  by
• 18:07
  anxiety
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  get
• 18:08
  motivation,
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  get
• 18:09
  control.
• 18:09
  And
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  think
• 18:10
  as
• 18:10
  well,
• 18:10
  school
• 18:11
  is
• 18:11
  inherently
• 18:12
  designed
• 18:12
  to
• 18:12
  erode
• 18:13
  boundaries.
• 18:14
  My
• 18:14
  daughter,
• 18:15
  who
• 18:15
  is
• 18:15
  trying
• 18:16
  out
• 18:16
  school
• 18:16
  this
• 18:17
  week,
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  gave
• 18:18
  her
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  little
• 18:18
  pep
• 18:19
  talk
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  I
• 18:20
  said,
• 18:20
  I,
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  know,
• 18:21
  try
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  do
• 18:21
  what
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  teachers
• 18:22
  ask
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  to
• 18:23
  do,
• 18:23
  unless
• 18:23
  of
• 18:23
  course,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:24
  feel
• 18:24
  that
• 18:24
  it
• 18:25
  makes
• 18:25
  you
• 18:25
  feel
• 18:25
  uncomfortable
• 18:26
  or
• 18:26
  it's
• 18:27
  not
• 18:27
  something
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  you
• 18:28
  want
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  do
• 18:28
  or
• 18:29
  it
• 18:29
  goes
• 18:29
  against
• 18:30
  your
• 18:30
  values
• 18:30
  or
• 18:31
  any
• 18:31
  of
• 18:31
  that.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:31
  she
• 18:31
  looked
• 18:31
  at
• 18:31
  me
• 18:32
  as
• 18:32
  if
• 18:32
  to
• 18:32
  say,
• 18:32
  well,
• 18:32
  obviously
• 18:33
  I'm
• 18:33
  not
• 18:33
  going
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  do
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  then.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:34
  I
• 18:34
  thought,
• 18:35
  She's
• 18:35
  17
• 18:36
  now.
• 18:36
  She
• 18:36
  knows
• 18:37
  that
• 18:37
  because
• 18:37
  we've
• 18:37
  had,
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  know,
• 18:38
  almost
• 18:38
  two
• 18:39
  decades
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  homeschooling,
• 18:40
  but
• 18:40
  in
• 18:40
  actual
• 18:41
  fact,
• 18:41
  how
• 18:41
  many
• 18:42
  children
• 18:42
  go
• 18:42
  into
• 18:42
  school,
• 18:43
  particularly
• 18:44
  neurodivergent
• 18:44
  children
• 18:45
  who
• 18:46
  then.
• 18:46
  Who
• 18:46
  then
• 18:47
  almost
• 18:47
  certainly
• 18:48
  suck
• 18:48
  up
• 18:48
  whatever
• 18:49
  happens?
• 18:50
  Because
• 18:50
  the,
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  culture
• 18:51
  in
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  school
• 18:52
  is
• 18:52
  to
• 18:52
  do
• 18:53
  what
• 18:53
  you're
• 18:53
  told.
• 18:53
  And
• 18:54
  if
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  don't,
• 18:54
  it's
• 18:54
  really
• 18:55
  problematic,
• 18:55
  really.
• 18:56
  Problem,
• 18:56
  you
• 18:56
  get
• 18:56
  like
• 18:57
  your
• 18:57
  name
• 18:57
  on
• 18:57
  the
• 18:58
  board,
• 18:58
  public
• 18:58
  shaming,
• 18:59
  you
• 19:00
  know,
• 19:00
  it's
• 19:00
  terrible.
• 19:00
  Right.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:01
  as
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  would
• 19:01
  imagine
• 19:02
  that
• 19:02
  as
• 19:03
  a
• 19:03
  neurodivergent
• 19:04
  parent
• 19:04
  who
• 19:04
  had
• 19:04
  been
• 19:05
  through
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  experience
• 19:06
  yourself,
• 19:06
  and
• 19:07
  then
• 19:07
  to
• 19:07
  imagine
• 19:08
  viscerally
• 19:09
  kind
• 19:09
  of
• 19:09
  imagine
• 19:10
  your
• 19:10
  neurodivergent
• 19:11
  children
• 19:11
  in
• 19:12
  that
• 19:12
  kind
• 19:12
  of
• 19:12
  experience
• 19:13
  where
• 19:13
  boundaries
• 19:13
  aren't
• 19:14
  encouraged,
• 19:14
  it
• 19:14
  would
• 19:14
  be,
• 19:15
  it,
• 19:15
  it
• 19:16
  would
• 19:16
  be
• 19:16
  really
• 19:17
  like
• 19:17
  a
• 19:17
  conflict
• 19:18
  for
• 19:18
  you.
• 19:20
  Absolutely.
• 19:20
  That
• 19:21
  and
• 19:21
  I.
• 19:22
  Something
• 19:22
  that
• 19:22
  I'm
• 19:23
  having
• 19:23
  to
• 19:24
  heal
• 19:24
  and
• 19:25
  unlearn
• 19:25
  now
• 19:26
  as
• 19:26
  an
• 19:26
  adult
• 19:27
  is
• 19:27
  the
• 19:28
  fear
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  being
• 19:28
  wrong.
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  absolutely
• 19:31
  terrified
• 19:32
  of
• 19:32
  breaking
• 19:33
  rules.
• 19:34
  I'm
• 19:34
  terrified
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  getting
• 19:35
  in
• 19:35
  trouble.
• 19:36
  I'm
• 19:36
  terrified
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  being
• 19:38
  told
• 19:38
  I'm
• 19:39
  wrong.
• 19:40
  And
• 19:41
  it
• 19:41
  keeps
• 19:41
  me
• 19:42
  from.
• 19:43
  I'm
• 19:44
  really
• 19:44
  sorry.
• 19:45
  He's
• 19:46
  just.
• 19:47
  Is
• 19:48
  it
• 19:48
  the
• 19:48
  kittens?
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  kind
• 19:50
  of
• 19:50
  want
• 19:50
  to
• 19:51
  see
• 19:51
  what
• 19:51
  they've
• 19:51
  done.
• 19:53
  I've
• 19:53
  got
• 19:53
  a
• 19:53
  hold
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  my
• 19:54
  daughter's
• 19:54
  made
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  bird
• 19:55
  feeder
• 19:55
  at,
• 19:58
  at
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  farm
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  other
• 19:59
  day.
• 19:59
  And
• 20:00
  you've
• 20:01
  just
• 20:01
  got
• 20:01
  hold
• 20:01
  of
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  and
• 20:02
  was
• 20:02
  trying
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  get
• 20:03
  all
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  seed
• 20:03
  and
• 20:04
  everything
• 20:04
  everywhere.
• 20:04
  Oh
• 20:04
  my
• 20:05
  God.
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  just
• 20:06
  wanted
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  that
• 20:06
  before
• 20:07
  it
• 20:07
  was
• 20:07
  too
• 20:07
  much
• 20:07
  courage.
• 20:08
  It's
• 20:09
  very
• 20:09
  sensible.
• 20:09
  I
• 20:10
  did
• 20:10
  never
• 20:10
  work
• 20:10
  with
• 20:10
  children
• 20:11
  or
• 20:11
  animals.
• 20:11
  Right.
• 20:15
  So,
• 20:16
  yes,
• 20:16
  this
• 20:16
  fear
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  being.
• 20:19
  Being
• 20:19
  wrong
• 20:19
  and
• 20:20
  getting
• 20:20
  in
• 20:20
  trouble
• 20:20
  because
• 20:21
  you
• 20:22
  are,
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  know,
• 20:25
  my
• 20:25
  neurodivergent
• 20:26
  brain
• 20:27
  and
• 20:28
  being
• 20:28
  autistic
• 20:29
  you
• 20:30
  do
• 20:30
  have
• 20:30
  this
• 20:30
  black
• 20:30
  and
• 20:30
  white
• 20:31
  thinking.
• 20:31
  So
• 20:31
  if
• 20:31
  I'm
• 20:32
  told
• 20:32
  I
• 20:33
  can't
• 20:33
  do
• 20:33
  something,
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  can't
• 20:34
  do
• 20:34
  it
• 20:35
  and
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  won't
• 20:36
  do
• 20:36
  it.
• 20:36
  The
• 20:37
  issue
• 20:37
  therefore
• 20:38
  in
• 20:38
  school
• 20:38
  is
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  become,
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  lose
• 20:41
  a
• 20:42
  part
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  yourself
• 20:43
  because
• 20:43
  there
• 20:43
  are
• 20:44
  so
• 20:44
  many
• 20:44
  rules
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  you're
• 20:46
  so,
• 20:47
  and
• 20:47
  a
• 20:48
  lot
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  them
• 20:48
  contradict
• 20:49
  each
• 20:49
  other
• 20:49
  as
• 20:49
  well.
• 20:51
  And,
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  it,
• 20:53
  and
• 20:53
  it
• 20:54
  can
• 20:54
  change.
• 20:54
  So
• 20:54
  as
• 20:54
  you
• 20:55
  go
• 20:55
  up
• 20:55
  in
• 20:55
  school,
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  rules
• 20:56
  start
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  change
• 20:58
  and
• 20:58
  then,
• 20:58
  and
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  expectations
• 21:00
  change.
• 21:01
  But
• 21:01
  when
• 21:01
  you've
• 21:02
  got
• 21:02
  an
• 21:02
  autistic
• 21:02
  brain,
• 21:03
  it's
• 21:03
  like,
• 21:03
  hold
• 21:03
  on
• 21:03
  a
• 21:04
  minute,
• 21:04
  how
• 21:04
  does
• 21:04
  this
• 21:05
  work?
• 21:05
  A
• 21:05
  minute
• 21:05
  ago
• 21:05
  I
• 21:06
  wasn't
• 21:06
  allowed
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  do
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  or
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  was
• 21:07
  allowed
• 21:07
  to
• 21:08
  do
• 21:08
  that
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  now
• 21:08
  I'm
• 21:08
  not.
• 21:09
  And
• 21:10
  you
• 21:10
  spend
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  whole
• 21:11
  time
• 21:12
  just
• 21:12
  in
• 21:12
  this,
• 21:12
  in
• 21:13
  this
• 21:13
  sort
• 21:14
  of
• 21:14
  confusion
• 21:15
  and
• 21:15
  this
• 21:15
  feeling
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  always
• 21:16
  being
• 21:16
  wrong
• 21:17
  and
• 21:17
  getting
• 21:17
  it
• 21:17
  wrong
• 21:18
  because
• 21:19
  the
• 21:19
  boundaries
• 21:20
  are
• 21:20
  changing
• 21:20
  all
• 21:20
  the
• 21:21
  time.
• 21:21
  The
• 21:21
  goalposts
• 21:22
  are
• 21:22
  changing,
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  expectations
• 21:23
  are
• 21:23
  changing.
• 21:23
  And
• 21:24
  it's
• 21:24
  a
• 21:24
  lot,
• 21:25
  it's
• 21:25
  a
• 21:26
  lot
• 21:27
  on
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  child
• 21:28
  who
• 21:28
  just
• 21:29
  wants
• 21:30
  to
• 21:32
  follow
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  rules.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:34
  And
• 21:34
  do
• 21:34
  it
• 21:34
  right.
• 21:35
  Do
• 21:35
  it
• 21:35
  right.
• 21:37
  And
• 21:37
  I
• 21:38
  think
• 21:39
  that
• 21:40
  pressure
• 21:42
  is,
• 21:42
  is
• 21:42
  huge
• 21:43
  and,
• 21:43
  and,
• 21:43
  and
• 21:44
  is
• 21:44
  so
• 21:44
  misunderstood
• 21:45
  within
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  education
• 21:47
  field.
• 21:48
  This
• 21:50
  understanding
• 21:51
  that
• 21:52
  the
• 21:53
  level
• 21:53
  of
• 21:56
  wanting
• 21:56
  things
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  be
• 21:57
  right
• 21:58
  and
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  same
• 21:58
  and
• 21:59
  needing
• 21:59
  that,
• 22:02
  needing
• 22:03
  that,
• 22:03
  needing
• 22:03
  things
• 22:04
  to
• 22:04
  be
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  same,
• 22:04
  needing
• 22:05
  the.
• 22:06
  You
• 22:06
  know
• 22:07
  why
• 22:07
  a
• 22:07
  lot
• 22:07
  of
• 22:07
  children
• 22:08
  seemingly
• 22:09
  do
• 22:09
  well
• 22:09
  in
• 22:09
  school
• 22:09
  as,
• 22:10
  as
• 22:10
  new,
• 22:10
  neurodivergent
• 22:11
  or
• 22:11
  autistic
• 22:12
  is
• 22:12
  because.
• 22:13
  And,
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  at
• 22:14
  first
• 22:15
  or
• 22:15
  their
• 22:16
  parents
• 22:16
  feel
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  they
• 22:17
  don't
• 22:17
  do
• 22:17
  as
• 22:17
  well
• 22:17
  at
• 22:18
  home.
• 22:18
  Is
• 22:19
  that
• 22:19
  routine,
• 22:20
  the
• 22:21
  routine
• 22:21
  element
• 22:21
  of
• 22:22
  school?
• 22:23
  You
• 22:23
  know,
• 22:23
  I,
• 22:23
  I
• 22:24
  thrived
• 22:24
  in
• 22:25
  the.
• 22:25
  Putting
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  uniform
• 22:26
  on
• 22:26
  every
• 22:26
  day.
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  thrived
• 22:28
  on.
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  had
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  be
• 22:29
  at
• 22:29
  certain
• 22:29
  places
• 22:30
  at
• 22:30
  certain
• 22:30
  times
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  things
• 22:31
  were
• 22:31
  on
• 22:31
  certain
• 22:32
  that
• 22:33
  that
• 22:33
  element
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  it
• 22:34
  is
• 22:34
  great,
• 22:35
  but
• 22:35
  it's
• 22:35
  not
• 22:35
  enough.
• 22:36
  It's
• 22:37
  not
• 22:37
  enough
• 22:37
  that.
• 22:37
  And
• 22:37
  that,
• 22:38
  and
• 22:38
  that's
• 22:38
  not
• 22:38
  the
• 22:39
  education
• 22:39
  part
• 22:39
  of
• 22:39
  it.
• 22:40
  You
• 22:40
  can
• 22:40
  create
• 22:41
  a
• 22:41
  routine
• 22:42
  at
• 22:42
  home.
• 22:43
  You
• 22:43
  know,
• 22:43
  I've
• 22:44
  created
• 22:44
  that
• 22:44
  with
• 22:44
  my
• 22:45
  daughters.
• 22:45
  My
• 22:45
  daughters
• 22:47
  we
• 22:47
  used
• 22:47
  to
• 22:47
  have
• 22:48
  overwhelm
• 22:48
  every
• 22:48
  morning
• 22:48
  I
• 22:49
  could.
• 22:50
  We'd
• 22:50
  have
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  meltdown
• 22:50
  every
• 22:51
  morning
• 22:51
  about
• 22:51
  getting
• 22:51
  dressed.
• 22:52
  So
• 22:53
  in
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  evening
• 22:54
  they
• 22:54
  set
• 22:54
  their
• 22:54
  clothes
• 22:55
  out
• 22:55
  for
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  next
• 22:55
  day.
• 22:55
  So
• 22:56
  they
• 22:56
  just
• 22:56
  get
• 22:56
  up
• 22:56
  and
• 22:57
  they
• 22:57
  put
• 22:57
  their
• 22:57
  clothes
• 22:57
  on.
• 22:58
  They
• 22:58
  have
• 22:58
  that
• 22:58
  routine
• 22:59
  and
• 23:00
  then
• 23:00
  they
• 23:00
  can
• 23:00
  just
• 23:01
  do
• 23:02
  whatever.
• 23:02
  You
• 23:02
  know,
• 23:02
  they
• 23:02
  haven't.
• 23:03
  Even
• 23:03
  if
• 23:03
  we're
• 23:03
  not
• 23:03
  going
• 23:04
  out
• 23:04
  anywhere,
• 23:04
  they
• 23:05
  still
• 23:05
  do
• 23:05
  that.
• 23:05
  They
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  that
• 23:07
  familiarity
• 23:08
  of
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  routine.
• 23:09
  There's
• 23:10
  no
• 23:10
  pressure,
• 23:10
  there's
• 23:11
  no
• 23:11
  expectation
• 23:12
  on
• 23:12
  them.
• 23:12
  They
• 23:12
  know
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  that's
• 23:13
  what's
• 23:13
  happening.
• 23:14
  We
• 23:14
  have
• 23:14
  a
• 23:14
  loose
• 23:15
  timetable
• 23:15
  that
• 23:16
  we
• 23:16
  follow
• 23:16
  so
• 23:17
  that
• 23:17
  they
• 23:17
  have
• 23:17
  an
• 23:17
  expectation,
• 23:18
  they
• 23:18
  know
• 23:19
  what's
• 23:19
  coming.
• 23:19
  You
• 23:19
  can
• 23:20
  create
• 23:20
  that
• 23:21
  whilst
• 23:21
  also
• 23:22
  allowing
• 23:22
  within
• 23:22
  that
• 23:23
  timetable
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  you
• 23:24
  can
• 23:24
  throw
• 23:24
  out
• 23:24
  the
• 23:25
  window
• 23:26
  if
• 23:26
  someone's
• 23:27
  having
• 23:27
  a
• 23:27
  bad
• 23:27
  day
• 23:28
  or
• 23:29
  you
• 23:30
  know
• 23:30
  you're
• 23:30
  feeling
• 23:31
  overwhelmed
• 23:31
  or
• 23:31
  there's
• 23:32
  too
• 23:32
  much
• 23:32
  going
• 23:32
  on.
• 23:32
  You
• 23:33
  just,
• 23:33
  you
• 23:33
  can
• 23:34
  let
• 23:35
  go
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  that
• 23:35
  timetable.
• 23:36
  You
• 23:36
  can
• 23:37
  do
• 23:37
  whatever
• 23:38
  is
• 23:38
  needed
• 23:38
  on
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  day.
• 23:40
  But
• 23:40
  what
• 23:41
  we
• 23:41
  find
• 23:41
  helpful
• 23:43
  is
• 23:43
  that
• 23:45
  semi
• 23:45
  structure
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  fall
• 23:47
  back
• 23:47
  on,
• 23:48
  that
• 23:48
  kind
• 23:49
  of,
• 23:49
  it's
• 23:50
  that
• 23:50
  familiarity,
• 23:51
  it's
• 23:51
  what
• 23:52
  school
• 23:52
  does
• 23:53
  offer
• 23:54
  that
• 23:55
  is
• 23:55
  helpful,
• 23:56
  is
• 23:57
  that
• 23:57
  kind
• 23:57
  of
• 23:58
  something
• 23:58
  to
• 23:58
  follow,
• 23:59
  something
• 23:59
  to
• 24:00
  kind
• 24:00
  of
• 24:01
  give
• 24:01
  some
• 24:01
  sort
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  structure
• 24:02
  to
• 24:02
  your
• 24:03
  day,
• 24:03
  to
• 24:03
  your
• 24:03
  week.
• 24:04
  And
• 24:04
  I
• 24:05
  think
• 24:06
  for
• 24:06
  us
• 24:06
  as
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  neurodivergent
• 24:07
  family,
• 24:07
  that
• 24:08
  works
• 24:08
  really,
• 24:08
  really
• 24:09
  well.
• 24:09
  For
• 24:09
  me
• 24:09
  as
• 24:10
  a
• 24:10
  parent,
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  know
• 24:11
  what
• 24:11
  my
• 24:11
  expect,
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  expectations
• 24:13
  are
• 24:13
  on
• 24:13
  me.
• 24:14
  I
• 24:15
  don't
• 24:15
  have
• 24:15
  to
• 24:16
  every
• 24:16
  day
• 24:17
  be
• 24:17
  thinking,
• 24:17
  oh
• 24:17
  God,
• 24:17
  what
• 24:17
  am
• 24:18
  I
• 24:18
  going
• 24:18
  to
• 24:18
  do
• 24:18
  today?
• 24:19
  But
• 24:19
  for
• 24:20
  my
• 24:20
  daughters
• 24:20
  as
• 24:20
  well,
• 24:21
  they
• 24:21
  know,
• 24:21
  they
• 24:22
  know
• 24:22
  what
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  expectations
• 24:23
  are
• 24:23
  and
• 24:23
  they
• 24:24
  also
• 24:24
  know
• 24:24
  that
• 24:25
  it's
• 24:25
  okay
• 24:25
  for
• 24:25
  them
• 24:25
  to
• 24:26
  turn
• 24:26
  around
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  say,
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  don't
• 24:26
  want
• 24:26
  to
• 24:27
  do
• 24:27
  that
• 24:27
  today,
• 24:27
  I
• 24:27
  can't
• 24:28
  do
• 24:28
  it.
• 24:29
  And
• 24:29
  that,
• 24:30
  and
• 24:30
  that's
• 24:30
  okay.
• 24:30
  And
• 24:31
  we,
• 24:31
  we,
• 24:31
  we
• 24:32
  talk
• 24:32
  about
• 24:32
  it
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  we
• 24:33
  go,
• 24:33
  okay,
• 24:33
  is
• 24:34
  there
• 24:34
  anything
• 24:34
  that
• 24:35
  we
• 24:35
  can
• 24:35
  put
• 24:35
  in
• 24:36
  place
• 24:36
  so
• 24:36
  you
• 24:36
  can
• 24:37
  do
• 24:37
  that,
• 24:38
  so
• 24:38
  you
• 24:38
  feel
• 24:38
  able
• 24:38
  to,
• 24:39
  or
• 24:40
  we
• 24:40
  just
• 24:40
  don't
• 24:41
  do
• 24:41
  it
• 24:41
  and
• 24:42
  that's
• 24:42
  okay.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:43
  there
• 24:43
  isn't
• 24:44
  a
• 24:45
  repercussion
• 24:47
  from
• 24:47
  that.
• 24:47
  There's
• 24:48
  a,
• 24:49
  that's
• 24:49
  what
• 24:50
  home,
• 24:50
  home
• 24:50
  education
• 24:51
  is
• 24:51
  brilliant
• 24:51
  for,
• 24:52
  is
• 24:52
  that
• 24:53
  your
• 24:54
  children
• 24:54
  get
• 24:55
  to,
• 24:56
  they
• 24:56
  get
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  learn
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  natural
• 24:58
  consequences
• 24:58
  of
• 24:59
  things
• 25:00
  so
• 25:01
  they
• 25:01
  start
• 25:01
  to
• 25:01
  understand,
• 25:02
  oh,
• 25:02
  if
• 25:02
  I,
• 25:03
  if
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  frequently
• 25:04
  don't
• 25:05
  do
• 25:05
  this
• 25:06
  class
• 25:06
  or
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  frequently
• 25:07
  don't
• 25:07
  go
• 25:07
  to
• 25:07
  that
• 25:08
  group,
• 25:08
  oh,
• 25:08
  actually
• 25:09
  the
• 25:10
  natural
• 25:10
  consequence
• 25:10
  might
• 25:11
  be
• 25:11
  that
• 25:11
  then
• 25:11
  when
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  do
• 25:12
  go,
• 25:13
  friendship
• 25:13
  groups
• 25:14
  have
• 25:14
  changed
• 25:15
  or
• 25:15
  when
• 25:15
  I
• 25:16
  do
• 25:16
  go,
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  feel
• 25:17
  behind
• 25:18
  or
• 25:19
  I'm
• 25:20
  not
• 25:20
  meeting
• 25:20
  these
• 25:20
  goals
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  I
• 25:21
  want
• 25:21
  to
• 25:21
  meet.
• 25:21
  So
• 25:22
  they
• 25:22
  get
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  learn
• 25:22
  natural
• 25:23
  consequences
• 25:24
  but
• 25:24
  not
• 25:24
  repercussions.
• 25:25
  They're
• 25:26
  not
• 25:26
  punished
• 25:27
  for
• 25:27
  it,
• 25:29
  but
• 25:29
  they
• 25:30
  get
• 25:30
  to
• 25:30
  learn
• 25:30
  that,
• 25:31
  oh,
• 25:32
  actually
• 25:32
  if
• 25:32
  I
• 25:32
  put
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  effort
• 25:33
  in,
• 25:33
  if
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  push
• 25:34
  myself
• 25:34
  a
• 25:35
  little
• 25:35
  bit,
• 25:35
  then
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  can
• 25:36
  actually
• 25:39
  achieve
• 25:39
  more.
• 25:40
  And
• 25:42
  learning
• 25:42
  that
• 25:43
  for
• 25:43
  themselves,
• 25:44
  I
• 25:45
  mean
• 25:45
  that's,
• 25:46
  that's
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  skill
• 25:47
  again
• 25:47
  that
• 25:47
  I've
• 25:47
  had
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  learn
• 25:49
  that
• 25:51
  I'm
• 25:52
  learning
• 25:52
  to
• 25:53
  do
• 25:53
  things
• 25:53
  for
• 25:53
  myself
• 25:55
  and
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  it,
• 25:56
  that,
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  know,
• 25:57
  I,
• 25:58
  I'm
• 25:58
  not
• 25:58
  going
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  get
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  trouble
• 25:59
  if
• 25:59
  I
• 25:59
  don't
• 25:59
  do
• 25:59
  it.
• 26:00
  But
• 26:00
  actually
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  want
• 26:01
  to
• 26:01
  do
• 26:01
  it
• 26:01
  because
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  natural
• 26:02
  consequences,
• 26:02
  if
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  don't
• 26:03
  do
• 26:03
  it,
• 26:03
  then
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  don't
• 26:04
  achieve
• 26:04
  or
• 26:04
  I
• 26:05
  don't,
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  Know,
• 26:06
  get
• 26:06
  fitter
• 26:06
  or
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  don't.
• 26:08
  Whatever
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  goal
• 26:09
  is.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  I,
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  think
• 26:13
  that's
• 26:13
  what's
• 26:14
  lacking
• 26:14
  in
• 26:14
  school
• 26:15
  is
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  they
• 26:17
  don't
• 26:17
  get
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  opportunity
• 26:18
  to
• 26:18
  learn
• 26:18
  natural
• 26:19
  consequences.
• 26:19
  They're
• 26:20
  just
• 26:20
  punished.
• 26:22
  And,
• 26:22
  and
• 26:22
  therefore,
• 26:23
  for
• 26:23
  them,
• 26:23
  it's
• 26:24
  just
• 26:24
  like,
• 26:24
  well,
• 26:24
  that's
• 26:25
  just
• 26:25
  not
• 26:25
  fair
• 26:25
  then.
• 26:26
  That's
• 26:26
  just,
• 26:27
  you
• 26:27
  know,
• 26:27
  they
• 26:28
  just
• 26:28
  learn
• 26:28
  life
• 26:28
  is.
• 26:29
  Isn't
• 26:30
  fair.
• 26:30
  And
• 26:30
  I,
• 26:30
  yeah,
• 26:32
  what
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  hear
• 26:32
  is.
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  always
• 26:33
  say
• 26:33
  that
• 26:34
  home
• 26:34
  education
• 26:36
  really
• 26:36
  is
• 26:37
  about
• 26:37
  freedom
• 26:37
  and
• 26:37
  flexibility.
• 26:38
  For
• 26:38
  me,
• 26:39
  that's
• 26:39
  very
• 26:39
  much
• 26:39
  what
• 26:40
  it's
• 26:40
  been,
• 26:40
  and
• 26:40
  similar
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  you,
• 26:41
  that
• 26:42
  took
• 26:42
  place
• 26:42
  for
• 26:42
  me
• 26:42
  within
• 26:43
  a
• 26:43
  structured
• 26:44
  setting.
• 26:45
  So
• 26:46
  I've
• 26:46
  had,
• 26:47
  I've
• 26:47
  had
• 26:47
  the
• 26:48
  real
• 26:48
  honor
• 26:48
  of
• 26:49
  interviewing
• 26:49
  some
• 26:50
  amazing
• 26:50
  unschoolers
• 26:52
  who
• 26:52
  do
• 26:52
  it
• 26:53
  brilliantly,
• 26:53
  like,
• 26:54
  brilliantly.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:55
  every
• 26:55
  time
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  listen
• 26:56
  to
• 26:56
  them,
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  think,
• 26:56
  oh,
• 26:57
  this
• 26:57
  is
• 26:58
  really
• 26:58
  cool.
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  really
• 26:59
  want
• 27:00
  to
• 27:00
  do
• 27:00
  this.
• 27:00
  This
• 27:00
  is
• 27:00
  like,
• 27:01
  amazing.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:02
  then
• 27:02
  I'd
• 27:02
  have
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  rein
• 27:03
  myself
• 27:04
  back
• 27:04
  in
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  go,
• 27:04
  yeah,
• 27:04
  no,
• 27:05
  no,
• 27:05
  that's
• 27:05
  not
• 27:05
  gonna
• 27:05
  work
• 27:06
  for
• 27:06
  you.
• 27:06
  Because
• 27:06
  for
• 27:07
  me,
• 27:07
  structureless
• 27:08
  in
• 27:08
  that
• 27:08
  way
• 27:09
  freaks
• 27:09
  me
• 27:10
  out.
• 27:10
  Completely
• 27:10
  freaks
• 27:11
  me
• 27:11
  out.
• 27:11
  And
• 27:11
  my
• 27:12
  son,
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  know
• 27:12
  he's.
• 27:13
  He
• 27:13
  is
• 27:13
  also
• 27:13
  one
• 27:14
  of
• 27:14
  these
• 27:14
  people
• 27:14
  that
• 27:15
  he
• 27:15
  asks
• 27:15
  me
• 27:15
  at
• 27:15
  the
• 27:16
  start
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  the
• 27:16
  week,
• 27:17
  okay,
• 27:17
  what's
• 27:17
  happening?
• 27:18
  When.
• 27:18
  And
• 27:18
  I
• 27:19
  remember
• 27:19
  there
• 27:19
  was
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  time
• 27:19
  when
• 27:20
  he
• 27:20
  was
• 27:20
  about
• 27:20
  7,
• 27:20
  and
• 27:21
  he
• 27:21
  said,
• 27:21
  oh,
• 27:21
  you
• 27:21
  know,
• 27:22
  what
• 27:22
  have
• 27:22
  we
• 27:22
  got
• 27:22
  on
• 27:22
  today?
• 27:22
  And
• 27:23
  I
• 27:23
  was
• 27:23
  like,
• 27:23
  I
• 27:23
  don't
• 27:23
  know,
• 27:24
  dude,
• 27:24
  let's
• 27:24
  just
• 27:24
  see.
• 27:24
  And
• 27:25
  he
• 27:25
  looked
• 27:25
  at
• 27:25
  me
• 27:25
  as
• 27:25
  if
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  say,
• 27:26
  are
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  actually
• 27:26
  joking
• 27:27
  me
• 27:27
  right
• 27:27
  now?
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  I
• 27:28
  thought,
• 27:29
  okay,
• 27:29
  this
• 27:29
  is
• 27:29
  not
• 27:30
  the
• 27:30
  vibe
• 27:30
  that
• 27:31
  he's
• 27:31
  looking
• 27:31
  for
• 27:31
  here.
• 27:32
  So
• 27:33
  do
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  feel
• 27:34
  that,
• 27:35
  that
• 27:35
  you
• 27:35
  have
• 27:35
  this
• 27:36
  freedom
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  flexibility
• 27:37
  within
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  boundaries
• 27:38
  and
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  structure
• 27:39
  that
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  put
• 27:39
  in
• 27:39
  place?
• 27:40
  How
• 27:40
  do
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  feel
• 27:40
  that
• 27:41
  that
• 27:41
  settles
• 27:42
  within
• 27:42
  the
• 27:43
  home
• 27:43
  educating
• 27:43
  community?
• 27:44
  Do
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  feel
• 27:44
  that
• 27:45
  you
• 27:46
  are
• 27:46
  doing,
• 27:47
  like,
• 27:47
  one
• 27:47
  thing
• 27:47
  or
• 27:47
  another?
• 27:48
  Do
• 27:48
  you
• 27:48
  feel
• 27:48
  that
• 27:49
  you're
• 27:49
  just
• 27:49
  doing
• 27:49
  your
• 27:49
  thing?
• 27:50
  Like,
• 27:50
  how
• 27:50
  does
• 27:50
  that
• 27:51
  work
• 27:51
  for
• 27:51
  you?
• 27:52
  You
• 27:52
  know,
• 27:52
  I,
• 27:52
  I
• 27:53
  find
• 27:53
  myself
• 27:55
  always
• 27:55
  being
• 27:55
  like,
• 27:55
  you
• 27:56
  know,
• 27:56
  I,
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  want
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  be
• 27:56
  this
• 27:57
  unschooling
• 27:57
  parent
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  want
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  just
• 27:58
  let
• 27:58
  them
• 27:59
  do
• 27:59
  whatever.
• 28:00
  But.
• 28:01
  And
• 28:01
  actually
• 28:03
  with
• 28:03
  the
• 28:03
  neurodivergence,
• 28:07
  for
• 28:07
  my
• 28:08
  daughters,
• 28:09
  that
• 28:09
  doesn't
• 28:10
  work.
• 28:11
  They
• 28:11
  need
• 28:12
  a
• 28:12
  semi
• 28:13
  structure.
• 28:13
  And
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  found
• 28:14
  that
• 28:14
  when
• 28:15
  I
• 28:15
  was
• 28:15
  just,
• 28:16
  let's
• 28:16
  breeze
• 28:17
  through
• 28:17
  this
• 28:18
  for
• 28:18
  us
• 28:18
  as
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  family,
• 28:19
  that
• 28:20
  didn't
• 28:20
  work.
• 28:21
  But
• 28:21
  where
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  have
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  get
• 28:22
  the
• 28:23
  balance
• 28:24
  is
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  minute
• 28:25
  that
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  step
• 28:25
  into
• 28:26
  structure,
• 28:27
  you
• 28:28
  start
• 28:28
  getting
• 28:28
  into
• 28:28
  like,
• 28:29
  oh,
• 28:29
  we've
• 28:29
  got
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  be
• 28:29
  doing
• 28:29
  this
• 28:30
  and
• 28:30
  we've
• 28:30
  got
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  be
• 28:30
  doing
• 28:30
  that.
• 28:31
  So
• 28:32
  I've
• 28:32
  managed
• 28:32
  to,
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  like
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  call
• 28:35
  it
• 28:35
  semi
• 28:36
  structure
• 28:36
  in
• 28:37
  this
• 28:37
  kind
• 28:37
  of
• 28:37
  a
• 28:37
  flexible
• 28:38
  routine,
• 28:39
  because
• 28:40
  the
• 28:41
  routine
• 28:41
  element
• 28:42
  of
• 28:42
  it,
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  think
• 28:43
  for
• 28:43
  our
• 28:44
  brains
• 28:45
  really
• 28:46
  helps.
• 28:47
  And
• 28:47
  one
• 28:47
  of
• 28:48
  my
• 28:48
  daughters
• 28:48
  in
• 28:48
  particular,
• 28:49
  she,
• 28:50
  she
• 28:50
  needs
• 28:50
  to
• 28:50
  know
• 28:51
  what's
• 28:51
  happening.
• 28:52
  She
• 28:52
  needs
• 28:52
  what's
• 28:53
  happening
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  next
• 28:53
  day
• 28:54
  in
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  week.
• 28:55
  She
• 28:55
  needs
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  have
• 28:56
  that.
• 28:56
  You
• 28:57
  know,
• 28:57
  we
• 28:57
  have
• 28:58
  set
• 28:58
  days
• 28:59
  where
• 28:59
  she
• 28:59
  washes
• 28:59
  her
• 28:59
  hair,
• 29:00
  otherwise
• 29:01
  there's
• 29:01
  no
• 29:02
  way
• 29:02
  you're
• 29:02
  getting
• 29:02
  her
• 29:02
  anywhere
• 29:03
  near
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  bathroom.
• 29:04
  But
• 29:04
  if
• 29:05
  she
• 29:05
  know,
• 29:05
  she
• 29:05
  knows
• 29:06
  on
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  day
• 29:06
  is
• 29:06
  happening,
• 29:07
  she
• 29:08
  can
• 29:08
  handle
• 29:08
  it.
• 29:08
  So
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  have
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  do
• 29:09
  that
• 29:09
  with
• 29:10
  her
• 29:10
  learning
• 29:10
  as
• 29:10
  well.
• 29:11
  So.
• 29:12
  And,
• 29:12
  and
• 29:12
  it's
• 29:13
  quite
• 29:14
  interesting
• 29:15
  in
• 29:15
  the
• 29:15
  home
• 29:15
  ed
• 29:15
  community
• 29:16
  because
• 29:17
  there's
• 29:17
  kind
• 29:17
  of
• 29:18
  this
• 29:18
  sort
• 29:18
  of
• 29:20
  purist
• 29:22
  kind
• 29:22
  of
• 29:25
  stuff
• 29:25
  that
• 29:26
  goes
• 29:26
  on,
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  know,
• 29:26
  that's
• 29:27
  kind
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  like,
• 29:27
  oh,
• 29:27
  yeah,
• 29:28
  but
• 29:28
  if
• 29:28
  you're,
• 29:28
  if
• 29:28
  you're
• 29:28
  not
• 29:28
  unschooling
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  letting
• 29:29
  your
• 29:29
  child
• 29:30
  just
• 29:30
  do
• 29:30
  whatever,
• 29:30
  then
• 29:31
  you're,
• 29:31
  you're
• 29:31
  not
• 29:32
  home
• 29:32
  edding,
• 29:32
  right?
• 29:33
  And
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  think
• 29:34
  there's
• 29:35
  no
• 29:35
  right
• 29:35
  or
• 29:35
  wrong
• 29:36
  way.
• 29:37
  There's
• 29:37
  the
• 29:38
  way
• 29:38
  for
• 29:38
  your
• 29:38
  child
• 29:38
  and
• 29:39
  your
• 29:39
  family
• 29:39
  and
• 29:40
  what
• 29:40
  works
• 29:40
  best
• 29:41
  for
• 29:41
  you.
• 29:42
  And
• 29:42
  I
• 29:42
  think
• 29:43
  there's.
• 29:45
  You
• 29:46
  get
• 29:46
  sucked
• 29:46
  into
• 29:47
  both
• 29:47
  sides
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  it.
• 29:48
  You
• 29:48
  get
• 29:48
  sucked
• 29:49
  into
• 29:49
  the.
• 29:50
  Oh,
• 29:50
  you've
• 29:50
  got
• 29:50
  to
• 29:50
  be
• 29:50
  doing
• 29:51
  GCSEs
• 29:51
  and
• 29:51
  you've
• 29:52
  got
• 29:52
  to
• 29:52
  be
• 29:52
  doing
• 29:52
  so
• 29:53
  much
• 29:53
  maths
• 29:53
  in
• 29:53
  English
• 29:54
  each
• 29:54
  week.
• 29:54
  And
• 29:54
  if
• 29:54
  you're
• 29:55
  having
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  produce
• 29:55
  reports
• 29:56
  for
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  la,
• 29:57
  you
• 29:57
  also
• 29:57
  have
• 29:58
  that
• 29:58
  pressure
• 29:58
  of,
• 29:59
  you
• 29:59
  know,
• 30:00
  proving
• 30:00
  that
• 30:00
  you're,
• 30:01
  you're
• 30:01
  giving
• 30:02
  enough
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  each
• 30:03
  of
• 30:03
  those
• 30:03
  core
• 30:03
  subjects.
• 30:05
  But
• 30:05
  then
• 30:05
  you
• 30:05
  also
• 30:05
  have
• 30:06
  this
• 30:06
  pressure
• 30:06
  from
• 30:07
  a
• 30:07
  lot
• 30:07
  of
• 30:07
  other
• 30:08
  people
• 30:08
  within
• 30:08
  the
• 30:09
  community
• 30:09
  where
• 30:10
  it's
• 30:10
  like,
• 30:10
  no,
• 30:10
  you
• 30:10
  need
• 30:11
  to
• 30:11
  be
• 30:11
  letting
• 30:11
  your
• 30:11
  children
• 30:11
  run
• 30:12
  free
• 30:13
  and
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  need
• 30:13
  to
• 30:13
  be
• 30:14
  just
• 30:16
  integrating
• 30:17
  learning
• 30:17
  into
• 30:17
  every
• 30:18
  day,
• 30:18
  which
• 30:18
  is
• 30:19
  obviously
• 30:20
  brilliant
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  is
• 30:22
  what
• 30:23
  everyone
• 30:23
  is
• 30:23
  doing
• 30:23
  anyway
• 30:24
  without
• 30:24
  even
• 30:25
  trying.
• 30:26
  But
• 30:29
  I,
• 30:29
  I've
• 30:29
  done
• 30:29
  both.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:32
  at
• 30:32
  each
• 30:33
  ends
• 30:33
  of
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  spectrum,
• 30:34
  Hannah,
• 30:35
  they
• 30:35
  both
• 30:35
  were
• 30:36
  really
• 30:36
  stressful
• 30:37
  for
• 30:37
  me.
• 30:37
  And
• 30:37
  so
• 30:37
  I've
• 30:37
  kind
• 30:38
  of
• 30:38
  found
• 30:38
  this
• 30:38
  middle
• 30:39
  ground
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  I
• 30:40
  think
• 30:40
  there,
• 30:42
  when
• 30:42
  people
• 30:42
  are
• 30:43
  coming
• 30:43
  in
• 30:43
  new
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  home
• 30:44
  ed
• 30:44
  as
• 30:44
  well,
• 30:44
  there's
• 30:45
  this
• 30:45
  kind
• 30:45
  of
• 30:47
  pressure
• 30:48
  to
• 30:48
  go
• 30:49
  one.
• 30:50
  Choose
• 30:50
  a
• 30:50
  camp.
• 30:51
  Yeah,
• 30:51
  choose
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  camp.
• 30:52
  Are
• 30:52
  you
• 30:52
  unschooling
• 30:53
  or
• 30:53
  are
• 30:53
  you
• 30:54
  being
• 30:54
  really
• 30:54
  militant?
• 30:55
  And
• 30:55
  you've
• 30:55
  got,
• 30:55
  you
• 30:56
  know,
• 30:56
  these
• 30:57
  really
• 30:57
  crazy
• 30:58
  timetables.
• 30:59
  And
• 31:00
  so
• 31:01
  like
• 31:01
  you
• 31:02
  were
• 31:02
  saying
• 31:02
  at
• 31:02
  11,
• 31:02
  12.
• 31:03
  So
• 31:03
  my
• 31:03
  11
• 31:03
  year
• 31:04
  old
• 31:04
  suddenly
• 31:04
  was
• 31:05
  like,
• 31:05
  I
• 31:05
  want
• 31:05
  to
• 31:05
  do
• 31:05
  all
• 31:06
  these
• 31:06
  things.
• 31:06
  And
• 31:08
  so
• 31:08
  she's
• 31:09
  booked
• 31:09
  on
• 31:09
  all
• 31:09
  these
• 31:10
  online
• 31:10
  classes,
• 31:11
  she's
• 31:11
  got
• 31:11
  this
• 31:11
  crazy
• 31:12
  timetable.
• 31:13
  And
• 31:13
  I'm
• 31:13
  like,
• 31:13
  okay,
• 31:14
  you
• 31:15
  do
• 31:15
  you.
• 31:15
  Let's
• 31:15
  see
• 31:15
  how
• 31:16
  it
• 31:16
  goes.
• 31:16
  It's
• 31:17
  like,
• 31:17
  and,
• 31:18
  and
• 31:18
  she,
• 31:19
  she
• 31:19
  loves
• 31:19
  it
• 31:19
  and
• 31:20
  she
• 31:21
  hasn't
• 31:21
  done
• 31:21
  all
• 31:21
  of
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  classes
• 31:22
  yet,
• 31:22
  but
• 31:22
  she's
• 31:23
  really
• 31:23
  excited
• 31:23
  about
• 31:23
  it.
• 31:23
  She
• 31:24
  wants
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  do
• 31:24
  all
• 31:24
  these
• 31:24
  things.
• 31:24
  And
• 31:25
  I'm
• 31:25
  like,
• 31:25
  okay,
• 31:25
  well,
• 31:25
  let's
• 31:26
  see
• 31:26
  how
• 31:26
  it
• 31:26
  goes.
• 31:26
  Let's
• 31:26
  see
• 31:27
  how
• 31:27
  you
• 31:27
  can
• 31:27
  manage,
• 31:28
  you
• 31:28
  know,
• 31:28
  all
• 31:28
  these
• 31:29
  different
• 31:29
  things.
• 31:29
  And
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  think
• 31:31
  that's
• 31:31
  the
• 31:31
  beauty
• 31:32
  of
• 31:32
  home
• 31:32
  ed
• 31:32
  is
• 31:32
  you
• 31:33
  get
• 31:33
  to
• 31:33
  give
• 31:33
  them
• 31:34
  those
• 31:34
  opportunities.
• 31:34
  Like
• 31:35
  you're
• 31:35
  saying
• 31:35
  with
• 31:35
  your
• 31:35
  daughter,
• 31:36
  giving
• 31:36
  her
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  opportunity
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  go
• 31:37
  and
• 31:38
  experience
• 31:39
  school
• 31:40
  and
• 31:41
  experience
• 31:41
  that.
• 31:42
  You
• 31:42
  get
• 31:42
  to
• 31:43
  let
• 31:43
  them
• 31:45
  find
• 31:45
  their
• 31:45
  way
• 31:47
  and
• 31:48
  find
• 31:48
  what
• 31:48
  works
• 31:49
  for
• 31:49
  them.
• 31:49
  And
• 31:50
  then
• 31:50
  you've
• 31:51
  got
• 31:51
  two
• 31:51
  children
• 31:52
  having
• 31:52
  three.
• 31:54
  They're
• 31:54
  so
• 31:54
  different.
• 31:55
  And
• 31:56
  that's
• 31:56
  what's
• 31:56
  fascinated
• 31:57
  me
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  most,
• 31:58
  because
• 31:59
  I
• 31:59
  have
• 32:00
  to.
• 32:00
  They
• 32:00
  have
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  have
• 32:01
  completely
• 32:02
  different
• 32:02
  timetables,
• 32:03
  completely
• 32:03
  different
• 32:04
  styles
• 32:05
  of
• 32:05
  learning
• 32:07
  passions.
• 32:08
  My
• 32:08
  middle
• 32:09
  daughter
• 32:09
  is
• 32:09
  very
• 32:09
  much
• 32:10
  like,
• 32:11
  unless
• 32:11
  it's
• 32:11
  about
• 32:12
  animals,
• 32:13
  she's
• 32:13
  not
• 32:14
  interested.
• 32:15
  So
• 32:17
  I
• 32:17
  have
• 32:17
  to
• 32:19
  make
• 32:19
  every,
• 32:19
  every
• 32:20
  bit
• 32:20
  of
• 32:20
  learning
• 32:21
  has
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  be
• 32:21
  related
• 32:22
  to
• 32:23
  an
• 32:23
  animal
• 32:24
  or
• 32:25
  that.
• 32:25
  But
• 32:25
  there's
• 32:25
  a
• 32:26
  bit.
• 32:27
  That's
• 32:27
  great,
• 32:28
  that's
• 32:28
  fine.
• 32:28
  I
• 32:29
  can
• 32:29
  do
• 32:29
  that.
• 32:29
  You
• 32:29
  know,
• 32:30
  there,
• 32:30
  there's
• 32:30
  millions
• 32:31
  of
• 32:31
  ways
• 32:31
  she,
• 32:32
  you
• 32:32
  know,
• 32:32
  she
• 32:33
  manages
• 32:33
  to.
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  found
• 32:35
  some
• 32:35
  amazing
• 32:36
  online
• 32:36
  classes.
• 32:37
  She's
• 32:37
  found
• 32:37
  this,
• 32:38
  this
• 32:38
  tutor
• 32:39
  that
• 32:40
  who
• 32:40
  does
• 32:40
  these,
• 32:41
  these
• 32:41
  online
• 32:41
  classes.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:42
  she's
• 32:43
  just
• 32:43
  taken
• 32:43
  to
• 32:44
  her
• 32:45
  and
• 32:46
  she
• 32:46
  does
• 32:46
  drawing
• 32:47
  classes
• 32:47
  with
• 32:47
  her
• 32:48
  and
• 32:49
  science
• 32:49
  classes
• 32:50
  and
• 32:51
  zoology
• 32:52
  and
• 32:52
  stuff,
• 32:52
  and
• 32:52
  they're
• 32:53
  all
• 32:53
  based
• 32:53
  around
• 32:53
  animals.
• 32:54
  But
• 32:54
  she's
• 32:54
  learning
• 32:54
  different
• 32:55
  skills
• 32:55
  with
• 32:55
  each
• 32:55
  of
• 32:56
  them.
• 32:56
  And
• 32:56
  she,
• 32:57
  she's
• 32:58
  into
• 32:58
  it.
• 32:58
  When
• 32:59
  we
• 32:59
  first,
• 32:59
  when
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  first
• 33:00
  started
• 33:00
  trying
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  get
• 33:00
  her
• 33:00
  to
• 33:01
  do
• 33:01
  anything,
• 33:03
  she
• 33:03
  wasn't
• 33:03
  interested
• 33:03
  in.
• 33:04
  If
• 33:04
  she
• 33:04
  thinks
• 33:04
  that
• 33:05
  it's
• 33:05
  learning
• 33:06
  or
• 33:06
  we're
• 33:06
  sitting
• 33:07
  down
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  do
• 33:07
  a
• 33:07
  workbook
• 33:08
  or
• 33:08
  something,
• 33:09
  nah,
• 33:10
  she's
• 33:10
  not
• 33:10
  interested.
• 33:11
  But
• 33:11
  these,
• 33:11
  she
• 33:12
  gets
• 33:12
  so
• 33:12
  excited.
• 33:13
  She's,
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  know,
• 33:15
  writing
• 33:15
  her
• 33:16
  own
• 33:16
  books
• 33:17
  about
• 33:17
  these
• 33:17
  animals
• 33:18
  and,
• 33:18
  and
• 33:19
  this
• 33:19
  was
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  child
• 33:20
  who
• 33:20
  wouldn't
• 33:22
  pick
• 33:22
  up
• 33:22
  a
• 33:22
  pencil
• 33:23
  or
• 33:23
  do
• 33:24
  anything.
• 33:24
  And
• 33:25
  it's
• 33:25
  so
• 33:26
  beautiful
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  be
• 33:27
  able
• 33:27
  to
• 33:28
  offer
• 33:28
  those
• 33:28
  opportunities
• 33:29
  for
• 33:29
  your
• 33:29
  children.
• 33:30
  And
• 33:30
  I'm
• 33:30
  so
• 33:30
  grateful
• 33:31
  for
• 33:31
  all
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  people
• 33:31
  out
• 33:31
  there
• 33:32
  who
• 33:32
  are
• 33:33
  also
• 33:33
  offering
• 33:33
  things
• 33:34
  so
• 33:34
  I
• 33:34
  don't
• 33:34
  have
• 33:34
  to
• 33:34
  sit
• 33:34
  and
• 33:35
  do
• 33:35
  it
• 33:35
  all
• 33:35
  myself.
• 33:36
  But
• 33:38
  my
• 33:39
  eldest,
• 33:40
  she's
• 33:41
  really.
• 33:43
  She
• 33:43
  loves
• 33:43
  reading
• 33:44
  all
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  classics.
• 33:45
  She's
• 33:45
  very
• 33:45
  like.
• 33:46
  She's,
• 33:47
  she's
• 33:47
  my
• 33:47
  mother
• 33:49
  and
• 33:50
  she
• 33:51
  loves
• 33:53
  really
• 33:53
  structured
• 33:54
  classes
• 33:55
  and
• 33:55
  really
• 33:56
  what
• 33:56
  I
• 33:56
  would
• 33:56
  call
• 33:57
  sort
• 33:57
  of
• 33:57
  traditional
• 33:58
  learning
• 33:59
  styles.
• 34:01
  And
• 34:02
  potentially
• 34:03
  in
• 34:04
  a
• 34:04
  school
• 34:04
  environment,
• 34:05
  she
• 34:05
  would
• 34:05
  quite
• 34:05
  like
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  class
• 34:08
  teaching
• 34:08
  element
• 34:09
  of
• 34:09
  it.
• 34:10
  But
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  rest
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  it
• 34:11
  would
• 34:11
  be
• 34:11
  wait.
• 34:12
  She's
• 34:12
  so
• 34:13
  sensitive
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  she'd
• 34:14
  just
• 34:14
  be
• 34:14
  completely.
• 34:14
  And
• 34:14
  she'd
• 34:15
  be
• 34:15
  so
• 34:15
  distracted.
• 34:16
  She
• 34:16
  gets
• 34:16
  distracted
• 34:17
  so
• 34:17
  easily.
• 34:17
  She
• 34:17
  wouldn't
• 34:18
  learn
• 34:19
  as
• 34:19
  much
• 34:19
  as
• 34:20
  she,
• 34:20
  she
• 34:21
  does
• 34:21
  in
• 34:21
  her
• 34:21
  lessons
• 34:22
  but
• 34:22
  she,
• 34:22
  she
• 34:22
  needs
• 34:23
  those
• 34:23
  type
• 34:23
  of
• 34:23
  lessons.
• 34:24
  Completely
• 34:24
  different
• 34:25
  to
• 34:26
  my
• 34:26
  middle
• 34:26
  daughter
• 34:26
  and
• 34:27
  then
• 34:27
  my
• 34:27
  youngest,
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  whirlwind,
• 34:30
  she's
• 34:31
  just
• 34:32
  like,
• 34:34
  that's
• 34:34
  a
• 34:34
  whole
• 34:34
  other
• 34:34
  ball
• 34:35
  game.
• 34:35
  And
• 34:35
  we're
• 34:35
  still
• 34:36
  fight,
• 34:36
  you
• 34:37
  know,
• 34:37
  she's
• 34:37
  just
• 34:38
  coming
• 34:38
  up
• 34:38
  to
• 34:38
  seven.
• 34:38
  We're
• 34:39
  still
• 34:39
  finding
• 34:39
  our
• 34:39
  feet,
• 34:40
  you
• 34:40
  know,
• 34:41
  in
• 34:41
  other
• 34:41
  countries
• 34:41
  they
• 34:42
  don't
• 34:42
  even
• 34:42
  start
• 34:43
  school
• 34:43
  until
• 34:43
  then,
• 34:44
  so
• 34:45
  we
• 34:45
  haven't,
• 34:45
  you
• 34:45
  know,
• 34:46
  she's
• 34:46
  just
• 34:47
  dipping
• 34:47
  her
• 34:47
  toe
• 34:48
  in
• 34:48
  the
• 34:48
  water,
• 34:48
  she
• 34:48
  tries
• 34:49
  out
• 34:49
  little
• 34:49
  bits
• 34:50
  here
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  there
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  she's
• 34:51
  trying
• 34:51
  out
• 34:51
  some
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  her
• 34:52
  sisters
• 34:52
  things
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  stuff
• 34:53
  and
• 34:53
  we're
• 34:53
  still,
• 34:54
  I'm
• 34:54
  still
• 34:54
  learning
• 34:55
  her
• 34:56
  style.
• 34:56
  I'm
• 34:56
  still
• 34:58
  sort
• 34:58
  of
• 34:58
  discovering
• 34:59
  what
• 34:59
  it
• 35:00
  is
• 35:00
  that
• 35:01
  is
• 35:01
  going
• 35:01
  to
• 35:01
  click
• 35:02
  into
• 35:02
  place
• 35:02
  for
• 35:02
  her.
• 35:03
  That's
• 35:03
  going
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  be,
• 35:04
  you
• 35:04
  know,
• 35:04
  sort
• 35:04
  of
• 35:05
  accelerate
• 35:06
  her
• 35:07
  learning.
• 35:08
  It's
• 35:08
  made
• 35:08
  me
• 35:08
  realize
• 35:09
  it's
• 35:09
  like,
• 35:10
  how
• 35:11
  can
• 35:12
  you
• 35:12
  make
• 35:13
  a
• 35:13
  national
• 35:13
  curriculum?
• 35:15
  And
• 35:16
  how
• 35:16
  can
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  make,
• 35:18
  you
• 35:18
  know,
• 35:18
  I'm
• 35:19
  quite,
• 35:20
  my
• 35:20
  mum,
• 35:21
  you
• 35:21
  know,
• 35:22
  taught
• 35:22
  teachers
• 35:23
  to
• 35:23
  be
• 35:23
  teachers.
• 35:25
  So
• 35:25
  I,
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  have
• 35:27
  sort
• 35:27
  of
• 35:27
  an
• 35:27
  insight,
• 35:28
  you
• 35:28
  know,
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  know
• 35:29
  how
• 35:29
  that's
• 35:30
  taught
• 35:31
  and
• 35:32
  it's
• 35:32
  so
• 35:34
  simplistic,
• 35:34
  it's
• 35:35
  for
• 35:35
  one
• 35:35
  style
• 35:35
  of
• 35:35
  learning.
• 35:37
  How
• 35:38
  can
• 35:38
  you,
• 35:38
  when
• 35:39
  everyone's
• 35:40
  so
• 35:40
  different,
• 35:41
  have
• 35:41
  a
• 35:41
  school
• 35:41
  where
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  go
• 35:42
  in
• 35:42
  and
• 35:43
  they're
• 35:43
  expected
• 35:43
  to
• 35:44
  all
• 35:44
  do
• 35:44
  the
• 35:44
  same
• 35:44
  thing?
• 35:44
  And
• 35:45
  it's.
• 35:47
  My
• 35:47
  autistic
• 35:48
  brain
• 35:48
  goes,
• 35:49
  pardon?
• 35:51
  That
• 35:52
  doesn't
• 35:52
  compute
• 35:53
  for
• 35:53
  me.
• 35:54
  And
• 35:54
  it
• 35:54
  fascinates
• 35:55
  me
• 35:55
  that
• 35:56
  it's
• 35:56
  not
• 35:57
  wildly
• 35:58
  understood
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  I
• 35:59
  hear
• 35:59
  it
• 35:59
  so
• 36:00
  much
• 36:00
  from
• 36:00
  people
• 36:01
  like,
• 36:01
  I
• 36:02
  could
• 36:02
  never
• 36:02
  do
• 36:02
  it,
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  don't
• 36:03
  know
• 36:03
  how
• 36:04
  you
• 36:04
  do
• 36:04
  it.
• 36:05
  And
• 36:06
  my
• 36:07
  brain
• 36:07
  goes,
• 36:07
  I
• 36:08
  don't
• 36:08
  know
• 36:08
  how
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  do
• 36:08
  the
• 36:09
  school
• 36:09
  run.
• 36:11
  Thank
• 36:11
  you.
• 36:12
  To
• 36:12
  you
• 36:13
  know,
• 36:13
  trying
• 36:13
  to
• 36:14
  get
• 36:14
  them
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  do
• 36:14
  homework.
• 36:14
  I
• 36:15
  don't
• 36:15
  know
• 36:15
  how
• 36:15
  you
• 36:15
  do
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  meltdowns
• 36:16
  after
• 36:16
  school,
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  don't
• 36:17
  know
• 36:17
  how
• 36:18
  you
• 36:18
  do
• 36:18
  the
• 36:19
  managing
• 36:19
  all
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  things
• 36:20
  that
• 36:20
  they
• 36:21
  have
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  take
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  school
• 36:22
  and
• 36:22
  you
• 36:23
  know,
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  parent
• 36:23
  teacher
• 36:24
  evenings
• 36:24
  and
• 36:25
  the
• 36:26
  off
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  trips
• 36:28
  and
• 36:29
  all
• 36:29
  of
• 36:29
  those
• 36:29
  things
• 36:30
  because
• 36:32
  I,
• 36:33
  I
• 36:33
  don't
• 36:33
  have
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  do
• 36:34
  any
• 36:34
  of
• 36:34
  that.
• 36:35
  And
• 36:36
  yeah,
• 36:36
  there
• 36:37
  are
• 36:37
  days
• 36:37
  when
• 36:37
  home
• 36:38
  educating
• 36:38
  is
• 36:39
  hard.
• 36:41
  There
• 36:41
  are
• 36:41
  days
• 36:42
  when
• 36:43
  I
• 36:43
  think,
• 36:43
  well,
• 36:44
  wouldn't
• 36:44
  it
• 36:44
  be
• 36:44
  nice
• 36:45
  just
• 36:46
  to
• 36:46
  send
• 36:46
  them
• 36:46
  off
• 36:46
  somewhere
• 36:47
  else
• 36:47
  for
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  day?
• 36:49
  Do
• 36:49
  you
• 36:49
  ever
• 36:49
  get
• 36:49
  a
• 36:50
  clash
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  brains,
• 36:52
  if
• 36:52
  you
• 36:52
  know
• 36:52
  what
• 36:52
  I
• 36:53
  mean,
• 36:53
  in
• 36:53
  your
• 36:53
  household.
• 36:54
  You're
• 36:54
  laughing
• 36:54
  as
• 36:55
  if
• 36:55
  it's
• 36:55
  like,
• 36:55
  oh.
• 36:55
  Yeah,
• 36:58
  oh
• 36:58
  yes,
• 37:01
  yes.
• 37:02
  And
• 37:02
  I
• 37:02
  have,
• 37:03
  I'm
• 37:04
  very
• 37:04
  lucky
• 37:04
  to,
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  have
• 37:06
  a
• 37:07
  best
• 37:07
  friend
• 37:07
  who
• 37:07
  is
• 37:08
  also
• 37:09
  autistic
• 37:10
  and
• 37:10
  ADHD
• 37:11
  like
• 37:12
  myself
• 37:12
  and
• 37:12
  will
• 37:12
  often
• 37:13
  text
• 37:13
  and
• 37:14
  she
• 37:14
  also
• 37:14
  home
• 37:14
  educates
• 37:15
  and
• 37:16
  we'll
• 37:16
  often
• 37:16
  text
• 37:16
  and
• 37:16
  Be
• 37:17
  like,
• 37:17
  oh,
• 37:17
  my
• 37:17
  autistic
• 37:18
  brain
• 37:18
  is
• 37:19
  switched
• 37:19
  on
• 37:19
  today.
• 37:19
  Or
• 37:20
  I'm
• 37:20
  really
• 37:21
  ADHD
• 37:21
  today.
• 37:22
  And,
• 37:23
  and
• 37:23
  I
• 37:23
  do
• 37:24
  say
• 37:24
  sometimes
• 37:25
  my,
• 37:25
  my
• 37:25
  autistic
• 37:27
  brain
• 37:27
  is
• 37:27
  there
• 37:28
  and
• 37:28
  we
• 37:28
  are
• 37:28
  on
• 37:29
  point.
• 37:29
  Everything
• 37:30
  is
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  the
• 37:32
  letter,
• 37:32
  and
• 37:32
  we're,
• 37:33
  we're
• 37:33
  doing
• 37:33
  this,
• 37:33
  this,
• 37:34
  this,
• 37:34
  this.
• 37:35
  And
• 37:35
  then
• 37:35
  other
• 37:36
  times,
• 37:36
  my
• 37:36
  ADHD
• 37:37
  brain
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  I
• 37:38
  am
• 37:38
  jumping
• 37:38
  from
• 37:38
  one
• 37:39
  thing
• 37:39
  to
• 37:39
  another,
• 37:39
  or
• 37:40
  I
• 37:40
  start
• 37:40
  10
• 37:41
  things
• 37:41
  and
• 37:41
  we
• 37:41
  don't
• 37:42
  complete
• 37:42
  any
• 37:43
  of
• 37:43
  them.
• 37:44
  And
• 37:46
  so,
• 37:47
  and
• 37:47
  sometimes
• 37:48
  that's
• 37:48
  okay
• 37:49
  because
• 37:49
  my
• 37:50
  daughters
• 37:50
  are
• 37:50
  in
• 37:51
  sync
• 37:52
  with
• 37:52
  that
• 37:52
  part
• 37:53
  of
• 37:53
  my
• 37:53
  brain
• 37:53
  being
• 37:54
  in
• 37:54
  gear.
• 37:55
  So,
• 37:55
  like
• 37:55
  when
• 37:56
  my
• 37:56
  autistic
• 37:56
  brain
• 37:57
  is
• 37:57
  on
• 37:57
  fire
• 37:57
  and,
• 37:58
  and
• 37:58
  they're
• 37:58
  in,
• 37:59
  in
• 37:59
  that
• 37:59
  kind
• 37:59
  of
• 38:00
  space
• 38:01
  as
• 38:01
  well,
• 38:01
  we're
• 38:02
  like
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  dream
• 38:03
  team
• 38:03
  and
• 38:03
  we're,
• 38:04
  you
• 38:04
  know,
• 38:04
  completing
• 38:05
  stuff
• 38:05
  left,
• 38:05
  right
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  center
• 38:06
  is,
• 38:06
  Is
• 38:07
  brilliant.
• 38:08
  If
• 38:09
  we're
• 38:09
  all
• 38:09
  firing
• 38:10
  from
• 38:10
  an
• 38:10
  ADHD
• 38:11
  perspective,
• 38:12
  there's
• 38:13
  fireworks
• 38:14
  and
• 38:15
  it
• 38:15
  can
• 38:15
  be
• 38:15
  absolute
• 38:16
  carnage.
• 38:17
  And
• 38:17
  again,
• 38:18
  you
• 38:18
  know,
• 38:18
  when
• 38:21
  it
• 38:21
  can
• 38:21
  be
• 38:21
  really
• 38:22
  hard.
• 38:22
  Because
• 38:24
  my,
• 38:24
  My
• 38:24
  eldest
• 38:25
  is
• 38:27
  her
• 38:28
  ADHD
• 38:28
  brain
• 38:29
  is
• 38:29
  on
• 38:29
  pretty
• 38:30
  much
• 38:30
  all
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  time
• 38:30
  and
• 38:31
  she
• 38:31
  starts
• 38:32
  10
• 38:32
  projects
• 38:33
  at
• 38:33
  once.
• 38:33
  I
• 38:34
  spend
• 38:34
  a
• 38:34
  lot
• 38:34
  of
• 38:34
  my
• 38:34
  time
• 38:35
  managing
• 38:35
  her.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:35
  I
• 38:35
  have
• 38:36
  to
• 38:36
  say,
• 38:36
  she,
• 38:37
  she.
• 38:37
  I
• 38:38
  don't
• 38:38
  know
• 38:38
  how
• 38:38
  she
• 38:38
  does
• 38:38
  it,
• 38:39
  but
• 38:39
  she
• 38:40
  reads
• 38:40
  like
• 38:41
  10
• 38:41
  books
• 38:41
  at
• 38:41
  once
• 38:42
  and
• 38:43
  she
• 38:43
  has
• 38:43
  them
• 38:43
  all
• 38:43
  started
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  she
• 38:44
  knows
• 38:44
  exactly
• 38:45
  what's
• 38:45
  going
• 38:45
  on
• 38:45
  in
• 38:45
  all
• 38:46
  these
• 38:46
  books.
• 38:46
  This
• 38:47
  blows
• 38:47
  my
• 38:47
  mind
• 38:48
  because
• 38:48
  I
• 38:49
  can,
• 38:49
  I,
• 38:49
  I
• 38:50
  like
• 38:50
  to
• 38:50
  read
• 38:50
  a
• 38:50
  book
• 38:50
  at
• 38:50
  a
• 38:51
  time.
• 38:51
  I
• 38:51
  like
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  finish
• 38:51
  it
• 38:51
  and
• 38:52
  then
• 38:52
  start
• 38:52
  another
• 38:52
  one.
• 38:53
  And.
• 38:54
  But
• 38:55
  I
• 38:55
  also
• 38:56
  am
• 38:56
  trying
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  teach
• 38:57
  her
• 38:58
  how
• 38:58
  to
• 38:58
  manage
• 38:58
  that
• 38:59
  because
• 38:59
  she
• 38:59
  does
• 38:59
  it
• 38:59
  with.
• 38:59
  She,
• 39:00
  she,
• 39:01
  she
• 39:01
  crochets
• 39:01
  and
• 39:02
  she
• 39:02
  knits
• 39:02
  as
• 39:02
  well.
• 39:03
  But
• 39:03
  she'll
• 39:04
  start
• 39:04
  hundreds
• 39:05
  of
• 39:05
  projects.
• 39:05
  And
• 39:05
  I've
• 39:06
  had
• 39:06
  to
• 39:06
  be
• 39:07
  quite
• 39:07
  strict
• 39:07
  with
• 39:07
  her.
• 39:08
  And
• 39:08
  I've,
• 39:08
  I've
• 39:08
  got
• 39:09
  a.
• 39:09
  I
• 39:09
  created
• 39:10
  her
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  little
• 39:10
  box
• 39:10
  and
• 39:11
  I'm
• 39:11
  like,
• 39:11
  you
• 39:11
  have
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  finish
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  projects
• 39:12
  in
• 39:12
  this
• 39:12
  box
• 39:13
  before
• 39:14
  you
• 39:14
  start
• 39:14
  another
• 39:14
  one,
• 39:15
  because
• 39:15
  otherwise
• 39:16
  we
• 39:16
  just
• 39:16
  have
• 39:17
  these
• 39:17
  unfinished
• 39:18
  projects
• 39:19
  everywhere.
• 39:20
  So
• 39:21
  that
• 39:21
  can
• 39:21
  be
• 39:21
  really
• 39:22
  hard
• 39:22
  because
• 39:23
  it's,
• 39:24
  it's
• 39:24
  probably
• 39:24
  hard
• 39:25
  for
• 39:25
  her
• 39:25
  that
• 39:25
  my
• 39:26
  autistic
• 39:26
  brain
• 39:26
  explodes
• 39:27
  because
• 39:28
  she's
• 39:28
  got
• 39:29
  20
• 39:29
  million
• 39:30
  things
• 39:30
  on
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  go
• 39:31
  and
• 39:32
  she.
• 39:33
  Love,
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  know,
• 39:34
  she
• 39:35
  explodes
• 39:35
  that
• 39:35
  I
• 39:36
  can
• 39:36
  only
• 39:36
  do
• 39:36
  one
• 39:36
  thing
• 39:36
  at
• 39:37
  a
• 39:37
  time,
• 39:37
  a
• 39:37
  lot
• 39:37
  of
• 39:37
  the
• 39:37
  time.
• 39:40
  So,
• 39:40
  yes,
• 39:41
  it
• 39:41
  does.
• 39:43
  It
• 39:43
  does
• 39:43
  clash.
• 39:46
  And
• 39:46
  those
• 39:46
  are
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  days
• 39:47
  when
• 39:47
  we
• 39:48
  throw
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  timetable
• 39:48
  out,
• 39:50
  because
• 39:50
  those
• 39:50
  are
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  days
• 39:52
  it
• 39:52
  tends
• 39:52
  to
• 39:53
  clash
• 39:53
  when
• 39:54
  we're
• 39:54
  dysregulated.
• 39:56
  So
• 39:56
  my,
• 39:56
  My
• 39:56
  biggest
• 39:57
  thing
• 39:57
  is,
• 39:58
  is
• 39:59
  teaching
• 39:59
  my
• 40:00
  children
• 40:00
  about
• 40:00
  dysregulation.
• 40:01
  And
• 40:01
  I
• 40:01
  think
• 40:01
  this
• 40:01
  is
• 40:02
  another
• 40:02
  thing
• 40:02
  that
• 40:02
  schools
• 40:03
  are
• 40:04
  only,
• 40:05
  I
• 40:06
  mean,
• 40:06
  just
• 40:06
  in
• 40:07
  general,
• 40:08
  society
• 40:08
  is
• 40:08
  only
• 40:09
  just
• 40:09
  Starting
• 40:10
  to
• 40:10
  understand
• 40:12
  more
• 40:12
  and
• 40:12
  more
• 40:12
  about
• 40:13
  dysregulation,
• 40:14
  about
• 40:15
  how
• 40:17
  just
• 40:17
  regulating
• 40:18
  a
• 40:18
  child
• 40:19
  can
• 40:20
  stop
• 40:21
  violent
• 40:21
  outbursts,
• 40:22
  can
• 40:22
  stop,
• 40:23
  you
• 40:23
  know,
• 40:24
  meltdowns,
• 40:25
  can
• 40:26
  aid
• 40:27
  concentration.
• 40:29
  And
• 40:30
  so
• 40:30
  what
• 40:31
  we
• 40:31
  tend
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  find
• 40:32
  as
• 40:33
  a
• 40:33
  family
• 40:33
  that
• 40:34
  those
• 40:34
  times
• 40:35
  when
• 40:35
  there
• 40:35
  are
• 40:35
  clashes,
• 40:36
  when
• 40:36
  there's.
• 40:38
  What's
• 40:38
  actually
• 40:38
  going
• 40:39
  on,
• 40:39
  is
• 40:39
  dysregulation.
• 40:41
  So
• 40:42
  we
• 40:42
  like
• 40:42
  to
• 40:42
  talk
• 40:43
  about
• 40:43
  it
• 40:43
  as
• 40:43
  a
• 40:43
  family
• 40:44
  in
• 40:44
  terms
• 40:44
  of
• 40:44
  dysregulation,
• 40:46
  because
• 40:47
  what
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  found
• 40:48
  is
• 40:48
  that
• 40:49
  that's
• 40:50
  quite
• 40:51
  a
• 40:51
  neutral
• 40:51
  term
• 40:52
  that
• 40:53
  allows
• 40:53
  us
• 40:54
  to
• 40:54
  offer
• 40:54
  support
• 40:55
  to
• 40:55
  each
• 40:55
  other
• 40:56
  rather
• 40:57
  than
• 40:58
  she's
• 40:59
  being
• 40:59
  really
• 40:59
  annoying
• 41:00
  or
• 41:00
  she's
• 41:01
  telling
• 41:01
  me
• 41:01
  what
• 41:01
  to
• 41:01
  do
• 41:01
  or
• 41:02
  whatever.
• 41:02
  Right?
• 41:03
  Can
• 41:03
  we
• 41:03
  look
• 41:04
  at
• 41:04
  what's
• 41:04
  going
• 41:05
  on
• 41:05
  for
• 41:05
  that
• 41:05
  person,
• 41:06
  that
• 41:06
  maybe
• 41:06
  they're
• 41:07
  being
• 41:07
  really
• 41:07
  irritating
• 41:08
  today
• 41:08
  or
• 41:08
  they're
• 41:09
  snappy
• 41:09
  or
• 41:10
  whatever?
• 41:11
  And
• 41:11
  that's
• 41:12
  when
• 41:13
  we
• 41:13
  would
• 41:14
  have
• 41:14
  that
• 41:14
  freedom
• 41:14
  and
• 41:15
  flexibility
• 41:16
  to
• 41:16
  go,
• 41:16
  okay,
• 41:16
  so
• 41:17
  what
• 41:17
  do
• 41:17
  we
• 41:17
  need?
• 41:18
  Do
• 41:18
  we
• 41:18
  need
• 41:18
  to
• 41:19
  throw
• 41:19
  everything
• 41:19
  out
• 41:19
  the
• 41:19
  window?
• 41:20
  Do
• 41:20
  we
• 41:20
  need
• 41:20
  to
• 41:20
  find
• 41:21
  something
• 41:21
  that's
• 41:21
  going
• 41:22
  to
• 41:22
  regulate
• 41:22
  us?
• 41:22
  Do
• 41:22
  we
• 41:22
  need
• 41:23
  to
• 41:23
  get
• 41:23
  outside?
• 41:23
  Do
• 41:24
  we
• 41:24
  need
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  go
• 41:25
  to
• 41:25
  the
• 41:25
  farm
• 41:25
  for
• 41:26
  my
• 41:26
  daughter
• 41:26
  so
• 41:26
  she
• 41:27
  can
• 41:27
  go
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  go
• 41:28
  and
• 41:28
  see
• 41:28
  the
• 41:28
  horses,
• 41:29
  which
• 41:29
  really
• 41:29
  regulates
• 41:30
  her?
• 41:30
  Do
• 41:30
  we
• 41:30
  need
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  go
• 41:31
  and,
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  know,
• 41:32
  hug
• 41:32
  a
• 41:32
  tree?
• 41:33
  Do
• 41:33
  we
• 41:33
  need
• 41:33
  to
• 41:34
  go
• 41:34
  to
• 41:34
  the
• 41:35
  sea
• 41:35
  and
• 41:35
  breathe
• 41:36
  the
• 41:36
  sea
• 41:36
  air
• 41:36
  in?
• 41:36
  Do
• 41:37
  we
• 41:37
  need
• 41:37
  to.
• 41:38
  What
• 41:38
  do
• 41:38
  we
• 41:38
  need
• 41:39
  to
• 41:39
  do?
• 41:39
  Do
• 41:39
  we
• 41:39
  need
• 41:39
  to
• 41:40
  just
• 41:40
  switch
• 41:41
  a
• 41:41
  computer
• 41:42
  on
• 41:42
  and,
• 41:43
  you
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:44
  watch
• 41:44
  something
• 41:44
  or.
• 41:45
  Or
• 41:45
  do
• 41:45
  a
• 41:45
  game
• 41:46
  or
• 41:46
  something
• 41:46
  that's
• 41:47
  going
• 41:47
  to
• 41:47
  just
• 41:47
  bring
• 41:48
  that.
• 41:50
  Bring
• 41:50
  our
• 41:51
  minds
• 41:51
  back
• 41:51
  in
• 41:52
  and,
• 41:52
  and
• 41:52
  focus
• 41:53
  and.
• 41:53
  And
• 41:54
  so,
• 41:54
  yeah,
• 41:54
  it
• 41:54
  all
• 41:54
  comes
• 41:55
  back
• 41:55
  to
• 41:55
  that,
• 41:55
  that
• 41:56
  freedom
• 41:56
  and
• 41:56
  flexibility
• 41:57
  to
• 41:57
  be
• 41:57
  able
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  do
• 41:58
  that
• 41:58
  to.
• 41:59
  You
• 41:59
  know,
• 41:59
  when
• 41:59
  you've
• 42:00
  got.
• 42:00
  When
• 42:00
  a
• 42:00
  teacher's
• 42:01
  got
• 42:01
  a
• 42:01
  classroom
• 42:01
  of,
• 42:01
  of
• 42:02
  30
• 42:02
  kids,
• 42:02
  they
• 42:03
  might
• 42:03
  be
• 42:03
  able
• 42:03
  to
• 42:03
  identify
• 42:05
  that
• 42:05
  this
• 42:05
  child
• 42:06
  is
• 42:06
  dysregulated
• 42:07
  and
• 42:07
  they
• 42:07
  need
• 42:08
  something,
• 42:08
  but
• 42:09
  they
• 42:09
  can't
• 42:09
  give
• 42:09
  it
• 42:09
  to
• 42:10
  them.
• 42:10
  They
• 42:11
  can't
• 42:11
  provide
• 42:11
  that.
• 42:12
  And
• 42:13
  so
• 42:13
  I
• 42:14
  think,
• 42:14
  gosh,
• 42:15
  for
• 42:15
  those
• 42:16
  teachers
• 42:17
  who
• 42:17
  are
• 42:18
  really
• 42:18
  switched
• 42:19
  on
• 42:19
  and
• 42:19
  really
• 42:19
  get
• 42:20
  it,
• 42:20
  that
• 42:20
  must
• 42:20
  be
• 42:21
  so
• 42:21
  frustrating
• 42:22
  because
• 42:24
  no
• 42:24
  one
• 42:24
  wants
• 42:24
  to
• 42:24
  see
• 42:24
  a
• 42:25
  child
• 42:25
  struggling
• 42:26
  in
• 42:26
  that
• 42:26
  way
• 42:27
  when
• 42:27
  they
• 42:27
  know
• 42:27
  what
• 42:28
  they
• 42:28
  need
• 42:28
  and
• 42:29
  to
• 42:29
  not
• 42:29
  be
• 42:29
  able
• 42:29
  to
• 42:29
  give
• 42:30
  that
• 42:30
  to
• 42:30
  them.
• 42:30
  That's
• 42:30
  what
• 42:30
  I
• 42:31
  love
• 42:31
  about
• 42:32
  home
• 42:32
  educating.
• 42:32
  I
• 42:33
  can.
• 42:33
  I.
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  mean,
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  can't
• 42:34
  all
• 42:34
  the
• 42:35
  time.
• 42:35
  There
• 42:35
  are
• 42:35
  moments
• 42:36
  when
• 42:36
  I
• 42:36
  can't,
• 42:36
  obviously,
• 42:37
  you
• 42:37
  know,
• 42:37
  when
• 42:37
  you've
• 42:37
  got
• 42:38
  three
• 42:38
  kids,
• 42:39
  sometimes
• 42:39
  I
• 42:40
  have
• 42:40
  to
• 42:40
  say,
• 42:40
  well,
• 42:41
  or
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  just.
• 42:41
  That
• 42:42
  capacity.
• 42:42
  Sometimes
• 42:43
  I'm
• 42:43
  like,
• 42:44
  I'm
• 42:44
  done.
• 42:46
  I.
• 42:46
  I
• 42:46
  can't
• 42:47
  support
• 42:47
  you
• 42:48
  right
• 42:48
  now.
• 42:50
  But
• 42:50
  because
• 42:50
  I
• 42:51
  can
• 42:51
  do
• 42:51
  it,
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  majority
• 42:52
  of
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  time,
• 42:53
  it's
• 42:53
  okay.
• 42:53
  And
• 42:54
  I
• 42:54
  Think
• 42:54
  it's
• 42:54
  really
• 42:54
  important
• 42:55
  that
• 42:55
  for
• 42:56
  me
• 42:56
  as
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  mother,
• 42:57
  for
• 42:57
  them
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  learn
• 42:58
  that,
• 42:58
  for
• 42:58
  them
• 42:59
  to
• 42:59
  see
• 42:59
  me
• 42:59
  being
• 43:00
  dysregulated
• 43:00
  and
• 43:01
  me
• 43:01
  sometimes
• 43:01
  saying,
• 43:02
  time
• 43:03
  out.
• 43:04
  Yeah,
• 43:04
  you've
• 43:05
  got
• 43:05
  to
• 43:05
  leave
• 43:05
  me
• 43:05
  alone
• 43:05
  for
• 43:06
  a
• 43:06
  second.
• 43:06
  I
• 43:06
  don't
• 43:06
  have
• 43:06
  capacity
• 43:07
  for
• 43:07
  this
• 43:07
  right
• 43:08
  now.
• 43:09
  I
• 43:09
  put
• 43:09
  my
• 43:10
  boundaries
• 43:10
  in
• 43:10
  and
• 43:11
  that's
• 43:11
  really
• 43:11
  important
• 43:12
  for
• 43:12
  them
• 43:12
  to
• 43:12
  see
• 43:13
  me
• 43:13
  do
• 43:13
  that
• 43:13
  because
• 43:14
  I
• 43:14
  had
• 43:14
  parents
• 43:15
  that
• 43:15
  didn't
• 43:15
  do
• 43:15
  that
• 43:17
  or
• 43:17
  that
• 43:17
  did
• 43:17
  it
• 43:17
  too
• 43:18
  much.
• 43:19
  And
• 43:20
  I
• 43:20
  think
• 43:21
  because
• 43:21
  they
• 43:22
  were
• 43:22
  just,
• 43:22
  you
• 43:22
  know,
• 43:22
  my
• 43:23
  mum
• 43:23
  worked
• 43:23
  long
• 43:24
  hours
• 43:24
  and
• 43:24
  then
• 43:24
  she'd
• 43:24
  come
• 43:25
  home
• 43:25
  and
• 43:25
  be
• 43:25
  like,
• 43:26
  I'm
• 43:27
  done.
• 43:28
  Don't
• 43:28
  speak
• 43:28
  to
• 43:28
  me.
• 43:29
  And
• 43:29
  I'd
• 43:29
  be
• 43:29
  like,
• 43:29
  I've
• 43:29
  been
• 43:30
  on
• 43:30
  my
• 43:30
  own
• 43:30
  all
• 43:30
  this
• 43:30
  time.
• 43:30
  And,
• 43:31
  you
• 43:31
  know,
• 43:31
  so
• 43:32
  it
• 43:32
  can.
• 43:33
  You
• 43:33
  know,
• 43:33
  it
• 43:33
  is
• 43:33
  difficult,
• 43:34
  but
• 43:35
  I
• 43:35
  think
• 43:36
  having
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  freedom
• 43:37
  and
• 43:37
  flexibility
• 43:38
  to
• 43:38
  be
• 43:38
  able
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  listen
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  everyone's
• 43:40
  needs,
• 43:40
  not
• 43:40
  always
• 43:40
  be
• 43:41
  able
• 43:41
  to,
• 43:42
  you
• 43:42
  know,
• 43:42
  we're
• 43:43
  not
• 43:43
  a
• 43:43
  perfect
• 43:43
  family.
• 43:44
  We.
• 43:44
  I.
• 43:44
  I
• 43:45
  definitely
• 43:45
  need.
• 43:45
  Do
• 43:45
  not
• 43:46
  meet
• 43:46
  my
• 43:46
  children's
• 43:46
  needs
• 43:47
  every
• 43:47
  minute
• 43:48
  of
• 43:48
  the
• 43:48
  day,
• 43:49
  but
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  sure
• 43:50
  as
• 43:50
  hell
• 43:50
  get
• 43:51
  the
• 43:51
  opportunity
• 43:51
  to
• 43:52
  do
• 43:52
  it
• 43:52
  the
• 43:53
  majority
• 43:53
  of
• 43:53
  the
• 43:53
  time.
• 43:54
  And
• 43:55
  that's
• 43:56
  for
• 43:56
  me.
• 43:58
  I
• 43:58
  wouldn't
• 43:59
  change
• 43:59
  that
• 43:59
  for
• 43:59
  the
• 44:00
  world,
• 44:00
  for
• 44:00
  all
• 44:00
  the
• 44:01
  hard
• 44:01
  moments
• 44:01
  of
• 44:01
  home
• 44:02
  education,
• 44:02
  because
• 44:03
  there
• 44:03
  are.
• 44:04
  I
• 44:04
  wouldn't
• 44:04
  change
• 44:05
  it
• 44:05
  for
• 44:05
  the
• 44:05
  world
• 44:05
  just
• 44:06
  for
• 44:06
  that.
• 44:07
  I
• 44:07
  think
• 44:07
  what
• 44:07
  you
• 44:07
  say
• 44:07
  there
• 44:08
  about
• 44:08
  emotional
• 44:08
  regulation
• 44:09
  is
• 44:09
  so
• 44:09
  key.
• 44:10
  My
• 44:10
  daughter,
• 44:11
  who,
• 44:11
  as
• 44:11
  I
• 44:11
  say,
• 44:12
  is
• 44:12
  trying
• 44:12
  out
• 44:12
  school,
• 44:13
  she
• 44:13
  came
• 44:13
  back
• 44:13
  from
• 44:13
  school
• 44:14
  last
• 44:14
  weekend,
• 44:15
  she
• 44:15
  had
• 44:15
  computer
• 44:16
  studies.
• 44:16
  And
• 44:17
  I
• 44:17
  said,
• 44:17
  what
• 44:17
  did
• 44:18
  you
• 44:18
  do
• 44:18
  in
• 44:18
  computer
• 44:18
  studies?
• 44:19
  She
• 44:19
  said,
• 44:19
  oh,
• 44:19
  we
• 44:19
  learned
• 44:20
  how
• 44:20
  to
• 44:20
  open
• 44:20
  Microsoft,
• 44:21
  send
• 44:22
  an
• 44:22
  email
• 44:22
  and
• 44:23
  copy
• 44:23
  somebody
• 44:24
  into
• 44:24
  an
• 44:24
  email.
• 44:25
  And
• 44:25
  I
• 44:25
  looked
• 44:25
  at
• 44:25
  her
• 44:25
  and
• 44:25
  I
• 44:26
  said,
• 44:26
  well,
• 44:26
  it's
• 44:26
  lucky
• 44:26
  that
• 44:26
  you
• 44:27
  didn't
• 44:27
  miss
• 44:27
  out
• 44:27
  on
• 44:27
  the
• 44:27
  last
• 44:28
  15
• 44:28
  years
• 44:28
  of
• 44:28
  institutionalized
• 44:29
  learning,
• 44:29
  isn't
• 44:30
  it?
• 44:30
  Because
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  wouldn't
• 44:30
  have
• 44:30
  been
• 44:30
  able
• 44:30
  to
• 44:31
  answer
• 44:31
  an
• 44:31
  email.
• 44:31
  But.
• 44:32
  But
• 44:32
  one
• 44:33
  thing
• 44:33
  she
• 44:33
  has
• 44:33
  learned
• 44:34
  is
• 44:34
  emotional
• 44:34
  regulation,
• 44:35
  which
• 44:35
  they
• 44:35
  do
• 44:36
  not
• 44:36
  teach
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  school.
• 44:36
  And
• 44:37
  in
• 44:37
  actual
• 44:37
  fact,
• 44:37
  it's.
• 44:38
  It's
• 44:38
  almost
• 44:38
  discouraged,
• 44:39
  almost.
• 44:40
  And
• 44:40
  as
• 44:41
  you
• 44:41
  were
• 44:41
  talking
• 44:41
  there
• 44:42
  about
• 44:43
  neurodivergence
• 44:44
  and.
• 44:45
  And
• 44:45
  talking
• 44:46
  about
• 44:46
  regulation
• 44:47
  and
• 44:47
  emotional
• 44:48
  regulation
• 44:48
  as
• 44:49
  being
• 44:49
  so
• 44:49
  key,
• 44:50
  it
• 44:50
  reminded
• 44:50
  me
• 44:50
  of
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  work
• 44:51
  that
• 44:51
  I
• 44:51
  do
• 44:52
  because
• 44:52
  I
• 44:52
  actually
• 44:52
  work
• 44:53
  with
• 44:54
  clients
• 44:54
  who
• 44:54
  have
• 44:55
  autism
• 44:55
  and
• 44:56
  ADHD
• 44:56
  who
• 44:57
  have
• 44:57
  these
• 44:57
  kind
• 44:57
  of
• 44:58
  brains
• 44:58
  working
• 44:58
  together.
• 44:59
  And
• 44:59
  one
• 45:00
  of
• 45:00
  the
• 45:00
  things
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  offer
• 45:00
  is
• 45:01
  screening.
• 45:01
  I
• 45:01
  do
• 45:02
  ADHD
• 45:02
  screening
• 45:03
  and
• 45:03
  it's
• 45:03
  not
• 45:04
  a
• 45:04
  diagnosis,
• 45:04
  but
• 45:05
  it's
• 45:05
  a
• 45:05
  very
• 45:05
  good
• 45:06
  test.
• 45:06
  It's
• 45:06
  called
• 45:06
  the
• 45:06
  Connors
• 45:07
  something
• 45:07
  or
• 45:08
  other.
• 45:08
  And
• 45:08
  it's
• 45:09
  like
• 45:09
  the
• 45:09
  gold
• 45:09
  standard.
• 45:10
  They
• 45:10
  use
• 45:10
  it
• 45:10
  in
• 45:11
  a
• 45:11
  lot
• 45:11
  of
• 45:11
  the
• 45:11
  rest
• 45:11
  of
• 45:11
  the
• 45:12
  world.
• 45:12
  We'd
• 45:12
  barely
• 45:13
  use
• 45:13
  it
• 45:13
  in
• 45:13
  the
• 45:14
  uk,
• 45:14
  I
• 45:14
  have
• 45:14
  no
• 45:14
  idea
• 45:15
  why,
• 45:15
  but
• 45:15
  we
• 45:16
  use,
• 45:16
  like,
• 45:16
  much
• 45:17
  weirder,
• 45:18
  much,
• 45:18
  much
• 45:19
  vaguer
• 45:19
  stuff.
• 45:19
  But
• 45:19
  anyway,
• 45:20
  as
• 45:20
  part
• 45:20
  of
• 45:20
  this
• 45:20
  test,
• 45:21
  you
• 45:22
  get
• 45:22
  screened
• 45:23
  for
• 45:23
  the
• 45:23
  five
• 45:23
  elements
• 45:24
  of
• 45:24
  adhd.
• 45:24
  And
• 45:25
  I
• 45:25
  always
• 45:25
  say
• 45:25
  to
• 45:25
  my
• 45:25
  clients,
• 45:25
  they
• 45:26
  often
• 45:26
  come
• 45:26
  to
• 45:26
  me
• 45:26
  with
• 45:26
  a
• 45:27
  diagnosis,
• 45:27
  and
• 45:28
  I
• 45:28
  say,
• 45:28
  okay,
• 45:29
  could
• 45:29
  you
• 45:29
  let
• 45:29
  me
• 45:29
  know,
• 45:29
  like,
• 45:30
  how
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  scored
• 45:30
  on
• 45:31
  these
• 45:31
  different
• 45:31
  five
• 45:31
  elements?
• 45:32
  They're
• 45:32
  like
• 45:32
  five
• 45:32
  elements.
• 45:33
  And
• 45:33
  I'm
• 45:33
  like,
• 45:33
  you
• 45:33
  know,
• 45:34
  like
• 45:34
  the
• 45:34
  five
• 45:34
  elements
• 45:35
  of
• 45:35
  adhd.
• 45:35
  And
• 45:35
  I
• 45:36
  kind
• 45:36
  of
• 45:36
  reel
• 45:36
  them
• 45:36
  off
• 45:37
  and
• 45:37
  they're
• 45:37
  like,
• 45:37
  I
• 45:38
  mean,
• 45:38
  time
• 45:38
  management.
• 45:39
  And
• 45:39
  I'm
• 45:39
  like,
• 45:39
  yeah,
• 45:39
  but
• 45:40
  that's
• 45:40
  like
• 45:40
  executive
• 45:40
  functioning.
• 45:41
  That's
• 45:41
  just
• 45:41
  the
• 45:42
  first
• 45:42
  one.
• 45:42
  And
• 45:43
  then
• 45:43
  I
• 45:43
  said,
• 45:43
  what
• 45:43
  about,
• 45:43
  for
• 45:44
  example,
• 45:44
  the.
• 45:44
  The
• 45:45
  final
• 45:45
  two
• 45:45
  elements
• 45:46
  of
• 45:46
  adhd,
• 45:47
  which
• 45:47
  is.
• 45:47
  Which
• 45:47
  are
• 45:48
  emotional
• 45:48
  dysregulation
• 45:49
  and
• 45:50
  negative
• 45:51
  self
• 45:51
  concept.
• 45:51
  And
• 45:52
  they
• 45:52
  look
• 45:52
  at
• 45:52
  me
• 45:52
  like,
• 45:53
  no
• 45:53
  one
• 45:53
  told
• 45:53
  me
• 45:53
  that
• 45:54
  this
• 45:54
  was
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  thing,
• 45:54
  that
• 45:55
  this
• 45:55
  was
• 45:55
  actually
• 45:56
  an
• 45:56
  ADHD
• 45:57
  thing.
• 45:57
  And
• 45:57
  it's.
• 45:58
  And
• 45:58
  it.
• 45:58
  It
• 45:59
  just
• 45:59
  drives
• 45:59
  me
• 45:59
  mad
• 46:00
  because
• 46:00
  people
• 46:00
  think
• 46:00
  that
• 46:01
  ADHD
• 46:02
  is,
• 46:02
  you
• 46:02
  know,
• 46:02
  being
• 46:02
  able
• 46:02
  to
• 46:03
  focus
• 46:03
  or
• 46:03
  being
• 46:03
  fidgety
• 46:04
  or,
• 46:05
  you
• 46:05
  know,
• 46:05
  being
• 46:06
  crap
• 46:06
  at
• 46:06
  going
• 46:07
  places
• 46:07
  on
• 46:08
  time,
• 46:08
  but
• 46:08
  actually,
• 46:08
  two
• 46:09
  fifths
• 46:09
  of
• 46:09
  the
• 46:09
  diagnosis
• 46:10
  are
• 46:11
  about
• 46:11
  how
• 46:11
  you
• 46:11
  feel
• 46:11
  about
• 46:12
  yourself
• 46:12
  and
• 46:12
  how
• 46:12
  you
• 46:13
  can
• 46:13
  hold
• 46:13
  those
• 46:13
  emotions.
• 46:14
  And
• 46:14
  one
• 46:14
  thing
• 46:15
  that
• 46:15
  home
• 46:15
  education
• 46:15
  allows
• 46:16
  us
• 46:16
  to
• 46:16
  do,
• 46:16
  as
• 46:17
  you
• 46:17
  say
• 46:17
  in
• 46:17
  real
• 46:18
  time,
• 46:19
  is
• 46:19
  help
• 46:19
  our
• 46:20
  children
• 46:21
  navigate
• 46:21
  through
• 46:22
  those
• 46:22
  dysregulating
• 46:23
  moments.
• 46:24
  Yeah,
• 46:25
  yeah.
• 46:26
  And
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  think,
• 46:27
  as
• 46:28
  you
• 46:28
  say
• 46:28
  in.
• 46:28
  In
• 46:29
  real
• 46:29
  time
• 46:29
  as
• 46:30
  well,
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  think
• 46:30
  that's
• 46:31
  what's
• 46:31
  so
• 46:31
  important.
• 46:32
  Because
• 46:34
  what.
• 46:36
  What
• 46:37
  I
• 46:37
  get
• 46:37
  to
• 46:37
  see
• 46:38
  is
• 46:40
  why
• 46:40
  my
• 46:40
  child's
• 46:41
  maybe
• 46:42
  having
• 46:42
  a
• 46:42
  meltdown,
• 46:43
  or
• 46:45
  when
• 46:46
  you
• 46:46
  get
• 46:46
  your
• 46:47
  child
• 46:47
  back
• 46:47
  from
• 46:47
  school
• 46:49
  and
• 46:49
  they're
• 46:49
  having
• 46:49
  a
• 46:49
  meltdown,
• 46:50
  you
• 46:50
  have
• 46:50
  no
• 46:51
  idea
• 46:51
  where.
• 46:52
  Where
• 46:52
  that.
• 46:53
  You've
• 46:53
  got
• 46:53
  a
• 46:53
  whole
• 46:55
  journey
• 46:56
  to
• 46:56
  go
• 46:56
  through
• 46:57
  to
• 46:57
  unpack,
• 46:58
  where
• 46:59
  that's
• 46:59
  actually
• 46:59
  come
• 47:00
  from,
• 47:00
  what
• 47:00
  actually
• 47:01
  is
• 47:01
  happening.
• 47:01
  Because
• 47:02
  when
• 47:02
  they're
• 47:02
  having
• 47:02
  a
• 47:03
  meltdown
• 47:03
  because
• 47:03
  you've
• 47:04
  maybe,
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  don't
• 47:04
  know,
• 47:05
  cut
• 47:05
  their
• 47:05
  apple
• 47:06
  up
• 47:06
  the
• 47:06
  wrong
• 47:06
  way
• 47:06
  or
• 47:07
  done
• 47:07
  whatever,
• 47:08
  and,
• 47:08
  you
• 47:09
  know,
• 47:09
  it's
• 47:09
  not
• 47:09
  about
• 47:09
  that.
• 47:11
  But
• 47:11
  how
• 47:12
  do
• 47:12
  you
• 47:12
  find
• 47:12
  out
• 47:13
  what
• 47:13
  it
• 47:13
  is
• 47:13
  about?
• 47:14
  How
• 47:14
  do
• 47:14
  you
• 47:15
  get
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  that?
• 47:16
  Whereas,
• 47:18
  as
• 47:18
  I
• 47:18
  say,
• 47:18
  I'm
• 47:18
  not.
• 47:18
  I'm
• 47:19
  not
• 47:19
  with
• 47:19
  my
• 47:19
  children
• 47:20
  24
• 47:20
  7,
• 47:20
  but
• 47:21
  I
• 47:22
  have
• 47:22
  much
• 47:22
  more
• 47:22
  of
• 47:22
  an
• 47:23
  idea
• 47:23
  of
• 47:23
  where
• 47:24
  that's
• 47:25
  come
• 47:25
  from.
• 47:28
  My.
• 47:29
  My
• 47:29
  middle
• 47:29
  daughter,
• 47:30
  my.
• 47:30
  My
• 47:30
  husband
• 47:30
  laughs
• 47:31
  about
• 47:31
  it
• 47:31
  because
• 47:32
  I'm
• 47:33
  so
• 47:33
  in
• 47:33
  tune
• 47:33
  with
• 47:34
  her
• 47:34
  that
• 47:35
  I
• 47:35
  can.
• 47:35
  I
• 47:35
  can
• 47:36
  catch
• 47:37
  her
• 47:37
  meltdowns
• 47:38
  before
• 47:38
  they
• 47:38
  happen.
• 47:39
  I
• 47:39
  already
• 47:40
  know
• 47:40
  what
• 47:40
  she
• 47:40
  needs
• 47:41
  before
• 47:42
  she
• 47:42
  knows
• 47:42
  what
• 47:42
  she
• 47:43
  needs.
• 47:44
  And
• 47:45
  that
• 47:45
  has
• 47:45
  saved
• 47:46
  my
• 47:46
  life.
• 47:48
  Because
• 47:48
  she.
• 47:51
  She
• 47:52
  was
• 47:53
  in
• 47:54
  school,
• 47:54
  she
• 47:54
  would
• 47:55
  be.
• 47:56
  Well,
• 47:59
  yeah,
• 48:00
  I
• 48:00
  mean,
• 48:00
  she
• 48:00
  would
• 48:01
  Be,
• 48:01
  I
• 48:01
  don't
• 48:01
  know,
• 48:03
  diagnosed
• 48:03
  with
• 48:03
  a
• 48:04
  whole
• 48:04
  host
• 48:04
  of
• 48:04
  things
• 48:04
  and,
• 48:05
  and
• 48:05
  labeled
• 48:06
  with,
• 48:06
  with
• 48:07
  all
• 48:07
  sorts
• 48:07
  of
• 48:07
  things
• 48:07
  and
• 48:07
  she
• 48:08
  would
• 48:08
  have
• 48:08
  been
• 48:08
  causing
• 48:09
  a
• 48:09
  whole
• 48:11
  multitude
• 48:11
  of,
• 48:11
  of
• 48:12
  issues.
• 48:14
  And
• 48:14
  these
• 48:14
  days
• 48:15
  she's,
• 48:15
  she's
• 48:16
  quite
• 48:16
  calm.
• 48:16
  But
• 48:17
  that's
• 48:17
  because
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  know,
• 48:19
  I
• 48:20
  know
• 48:20
  what
• 48:20
  she
• 48:20
  needs
• 48:21
  and
• 48:21
  I'm
• 48:21
  teaching
• 48:21
  her
• 48:22
  what
• 48:22
  she
• 48:22
  needs.
• 48:22
  And
• 48:23
  she's,
• 48:23
  she's
• 48:24
  now
• 48:25
  from.
• 48:26
  She
• 48:27
  was
• 48:27
  very
• 48:28
  non
• 48:28
  verbal
• 48:29
  with
• 48:29
  anything
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  do.
• 48:31
  Not
• 48:31
  non
• 48:31
  verbal,
• 48:33
  she
• 48:33
  could
• 48:33
  speak
• 48:34
  but
• 48:35
  anytime
• 48:35
  she
• 48:35
  was
• 48:35
  disregulated
• 48:36
  she
• 48:36
  was
• 48:36
  completely
• 48:37
  non
• 48:37
  verbal
• 48:37
  and
• 48:38
  she
• 48:40
  still
• 48:40
  at,
• 48:42
  you
• 48:43
  know,
• 48:43
  she,
• 48:43
  she
• 48:43
  threw
• 48:43
  tantrums
• 48:44
  like
• 48:44
  a
• 48:44
  2
• 48:44
  year
• 48:44
  old
• 48:45
  when
• 48:45
  she
• 48:45
  was
• 48:45
  like
• 48:46
  6,
• 48:46
  7.
• 48:46
  And
• 48:47
  it
• 48:47
  was,
• 48:49
  you
• 48:49
  know,
• 48:49
  when
• 48:49
  you've
• 48:50
  got,
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  she's
• 48:50
  quite,
• 48:51
  she's
• 48:51
  very
• 48:51
  tall.
• 48:52
  So
• 48:52
  you
• 48:52
  know
• 48:52
  you've
• 48:53
  got
• 48:53
  a
• 48:53
  six
• 48:53
  or
• 48:53
  seven
• 48:53
  year
• 48:54
  old
• 48:54
  kicking
• 48:55
  and
• 48:55
  punching
• 48:55
  you
• 48:55
  and
• 48:56
  things,
• 48:56
  it's,
• 48:56
  it's
• 48:56
  quite
• 48:57
  difficult.
• 48:57
  And
• 48:57
  when
• 48:57
  you're
• 48:57
  out
• 48:57
  and
• 48:58
  about
• 48:58
  and
• 48:58
  you're
• 48:58
  trying
• 48:58
  to
• 49:00
  manhandle
• 49:01
  them
• 49:02
  and
• 49:02
  things,
• 49:02
  it
• 49:03
  was
• 49:03
  really
• 49:03
  challenging.
• 49:03
  But
• 49:05
  she's
• 49:05
  now,
• 49:07
  we've
• 49:07
  got
• 49:08
  such
• 49:08
  a,
• 49:08
  an
• 49:08
  understanding
• 49:09
  that
• 49:10
  she's
• 49:10
  now
• 49:10
  starting
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  be
• 49:11
  able
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  verbalize
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  me
• 49:12
  what
• 49:12
  she
• 49:13
  needs
• 49:13
  in
• 49:13
  those
• 49:13
  moments.
• 49:14
  And
• 49:14
  for
• 49:15
  me
• 49:15
  that's
• 49:16
  my
• 49:17
  biggest
• 49:18
  achievement
• 49:18
  as
• 49:18
  a
• 49:19
  parent
• 49:19
  because
• 49:20
  for.
• 49:21
  To
• 49:21
  be
• 49:21
  able
• 49:21
  to
• 49:22
  do
• 49:22
  that
• 49:23
  as
• 49:23
  an
• 49:23
  adult
• 49:24
  is
• 49:24
  hard
• 49:26
  to
• 49:26
  verbalize
• 49:26
  what
• 49:27
  you
• 49:27
  need
• 49:27
  or
• 49:27
  what's
• 49:28
  going
• 49:28
  on
• 49:28
  for
• 49:28
  you
• 49:29
  particularly
• 49:29
  because
• 49:30
  none
• 49:30
  of
• 49:30
  us
• 49:30
  are
• 49:30
  taught
• 49:31
  how
• 49:31
  to
• 49:31
  do
• 49:31
  that.
• 49:33
  And,
• 49:33
  and
• 49:33
  these,
• 49:34
  these
• 49:34
  are
• 49:34
  the
• 49:34
  things
• 49:35
  that,
• 49:35
  it
• 49:35
  frustrates
• 49:36
  me
• 49:36
  that
• 49:36
  these
• 49:37
  are
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  things
• 49:37
  that
• 49:37
  should
• 49:38
  be
• 49:38
  being
• 49:38
  taught.
• 49:39
  Without
• 49:40
  those
• 49:40
  it's
• 49:41
  just,
• 49:41
  just
• 49:43
  you
• 49:43
  can
• 49:43
  go
• 49:44
  and
• 49:44
  be
• 49:45
  the
• 49:46
  top
• 49:46
  in
• 49:46
  your
• 49:47
  field
• 49:47
  of
• 49:47
  whatever,
• 49:48
  you
• 49:48
  know,
• 49:49
  chosen
• 49:49
  profession,
• 49:51
  but
• 49:51
  if
• 49:51
  you
• 49:51
  can't
• 49:52
  regulate
• 49:53
  yourself
• 49:54
  and
• 49:54
  you
• 49:55
  can't,
• 49:55
  you
• 49:55
  know,
• 49:55
  that's
• 49:55
  why
• 49:56
  you
• 49:56
  see
• 49:56
  people
• 49:57
  having
• 49:57
  breakdowns
• 49:58
  who
• 49:58
  are,
• 49:59
  you
• 49:59
  know,
• 49:59
  really,
• 50:00
  really
• 50:00
  successful
• 50:01
  in
• 50:01
  the
• 50:02
  eyes
• 50:02
  of
• 50:02
  society,
• 50:03
  but
• 50:04
  they
• 50:04
  have
• 50:04
  breakdowns
• 50:05
  because
• 50:05
  they
• 50:06
  still
• 50:06
  don't
• 50:07
  know
• 50:07
  how
• 50:07
  to
• 50:08
  manage
• 50:08
  their
• 50:09
  emotions,
• 50:09
  to
• 50:10
  verbalize
• 50:11
  their
• 50:11
  needs,
• 50:12
  to
• 50:12
  put
• 50:12
  boundaries
• 50:13
  in
• 50:13
  to.
• 50:14
  And
• 50:14
  I
• 50:15
  just
• 50:15
  think,
• 50:15
  wow,
• 50:16
  how
• 50:17
  are
• 50:17
  we
• 50:17
  still
• 50:18
  not
• 50:19
  seeing
• 50:19
  that
• 50:19
  this
• 50:19
  is
• 50:20
  an
• 50:20
  issue,
• 50:20
  that
• 50:20
  this
• 50:21
  is
• 50:21
  an
• 50:21
  important
• 50:22
  part
• 50:22
  of,
• 50:24
  of
• 50:24
  life.
• 50:26
  So
• 50:26
  yeah,
• 50:27
  and,
• 50:28
  and
• 50:28
  like
• 50:28
  you
• 50:28
  say
• 50:29
  that,
• 50:29
  that
• 50:29
  people
• 50:29
  don't
• 50:30
  understand
• 50:30
  that
• 50:31
  that
• 50:31
  part
• 50:31
  of
• 50:31
  the
• 50:32
  diagnosis,
• 50:32
  a
• 50:32
  huge
• 50:33
  part
• 50:33
  of
• 50:33
  it
• 50:33
  is
• 50:34
  that
• 50:34
  understanding
• 50:36
  of
• 50:36
  self,
• 50:37
  that
• 50:38
  emotional
• 50:39
  regulation,
• 50:40
  it's,
• 50:40
  it's
• 50:40
  not
• 50:41
  something
• 50:41
  that
• 50:42
  comes
• 50:42
  easily
• 50:44
  when
• 50:45
  particularly
• 50:46
  have
• 50:46
  an
• 50:46
  ADHD
• 50:47
  brain
• 50:48
  and
• 50:50
  learning
• 50:52
  ways
• 50:52
  to
• 50:52
  do
• 50:52
  that,
• 50:53
  not
• 50:53
  just
• 50:54
  learning
• 50:54
  ways
• 50:54
  to
• 50:54
  do
• 50:55
  that,
• 50:55
  but
• 50:55
  also
• 50:56
  having
• 50:57
  a
• 50:57
  life
• 50:57
  that
• 50:57
  allows
• 50:58
  you
• 50:59
  to
• 50:59
  do
• 50:59
  that
• 51:00
  because
• 51:01
  we
• 51:01
  can
• 51:01
  know
• 51:03
  what
• 51:03
  those
• 51:04
  things
• 51:04
  are.
• 51:05
  But
• 51:05
  without
• 51:06
  having
• 51:06
  the
• 51:07
  opportunity,
• 51:07
  you
• 51:07
  know,
• 51:09
  in
• 51:09
  school
• 51:11
  you
• 51:11
  can't
• 51:11
  even
• 51:11
  necessarily
• 51:12
  go
• 51:12
  to
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  toilet.
• 51:13
  When
• 51:13
  you
• 51:13
  need
• 51:13
  to
• 51:13
  go
• 51:13
  to
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  toilet,
• 51:14
  you
• 51:14
  have
• 51:15
  to
• 51:15
  do
• 51:15
  it
• 51:15
  at
• 51:15
  certain
• 51:15
  times
• 51:16
  to
• 51:16
  train
• 51:16
  yourself
• 51:16
  to
• 51:17
  do,
• 51:17
  to
• 51:17
  go
• 51:17
  to
• 51:18
  the
• 51:18
  toilet
• 51:18
  at
• 51:18
  certain
• 51:19
  times.
• 51:20
  And,
• 51:21
  and
• 51:21
  even
• 51:22
  just
• 51:22
  that.
• 51:23
  So
• 51:23
  just
• 51:23
  that
• 51:24
  I
• 51:24
  have,
• 51:25
  you
• 51:26
  know,
• 51:26
  and
• 51:26
  I
• 51:26
  know
• 51:26
  a
• 51:27
  lot
• 51:27
  of,
• 51:27
  a
• 51:27
  lot
• 51:27
  of
• 51:27
  neurodivergent
• 51:28
  people
• 51:28
  have
• 51:29
  an
• 51:29
  issue
• 51:29
  with
• 51:29
  using
• 51:29
  public
• 51:30
  toilets
• 51:31
  and
• 51:31
  with
• 51:31
  going
• 51:32
  to
• 51:32
  the
• 51:32
  toilet
• 51:32
  in
• 51:32
  general.
• 51:33
  I
• 51:33
  will
• 51:33
  put
• 51:33
  it
• 51:33
  off
• 51:34
  and
• 51:34
  put
• 51:34
  it
• 51:34
  off
• 51:34
  and
• 51:34
  put
• 51:35
  it
• 51:35
  off.
• 51:35
  And
• 51:36
  it's
• 51:36
  another
• 51:37
  thing
• 51:37
  that
• 51:37
  blows
• 51:37
  my
• 51:37
  husband's
• 51:38
  mind
• 51:38
  because
• 51:38
  I'll
• 51:38
  be
• 51:38
  absolutely,
• 51:39
  absolutely
• 51:39
  desperate
• 51:39
  and
• 51:39
  then
• 51:39
  I'll
• 51:40
  get
• 51:40
  distracted
• 51:40
  doing
• 51:40
  something
• 51:41
  and
• 51:41
  I
• 51:41
  won't
• 51:42
  go
• 51:42
  for
• 51:42
  like
• 51:42
  to
• 51:43
  the
• 51:43
  toilet
• 51:43
  for
• 51:43
  like
• 51:43
  another
• 51:44
  couple
• 51:44
  of
• 51:44
  hours
• 51:44
  or
• 51:44
  something.
• 51:45
  And,
• 51:45
  and
• 51:45
  he.
• 51:45
  This
• 51:45
  blows
• 51:46
  his
• 51:46
  mind.
• 51:48
  And
• 51:48
  so
• 51:49
  to
• 51:50
  have
• 51:51
  this
• 51:51
  expectation
• 51:52
  to
• 51:52
  do
• 51:52
  it
• 51:52
  at
• 51:52
  a
• 51:53
  certain
• 51:53
  time
• 51:54
  within
• 51:55
  a,
• 51:56
  a
• 51:56
  certain
• 51:56
  framework
• 51:58
  that.
• 51:58
  That
• 51:59
  was
• 51:59
  already
• 51:59
  putting
• 52:00
  a
• 52:00
  pressure
• 52:01
  on,
• 52:01
  on
• 52:02
  a
• 52:02
  child.
• 52:03
  And
• 52:04
  there
• 52:04
  are
• 52:04
  so
• 52:04
  many
• 52:05
  situations
• 52:05
  like
• 52:06
  that
• 52:06
  within
• 52:06
  a
• 52:07
  school
• 52:07
  environment.
• 52:07
  And
• 52:08
  I
• 52:08
  appreciate
• 52:08
  that
• 52:09
  they
• 52:09
  have
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  have
• 52:10
  those
• 52:11
  rules
• 52:11
  in
• 52:11
  place
• 52:11
  when
• 52:12
  you
• 52:12
  are
• 52:12
  managing
• 52:13
  huge
• 52:13
  numbers
• 52:14
  of
• 52:14
  children.
• 52:15
  And,
• 52:16
  you
• 52:16
  know,
• 52:16
  there
• 52:17
  has
• 52:17
  to
• 52:17
  be
• 52:17
  an
• 52:17
  element
• 52:17
  of
• 52:18
  that.
• 52:18
  But
• 52:18
  that's,
• 52:19
  that's
• 52:20
  not
• 52:20
  what
• 52:20
  I
• 52:20
  want
• 52:20
  for
• 52:21
  my
• 52:21
  children.
• 52:21
  I
• 52:22
  don't
• 52:22
  want
• 52:22
  them
• 52:22
  to,
• 52:23
  you
• 52:24
  know,
• 52:24
  people
• 52:24
  say,
• 52:24
  oh,
• 52:25
  you've
• 52:25
  got
• 52:25
  to
• 52:25
  learn
• 52:25
  that.
• 52:25
  Because
• 52:25
  then
• 52:26
  when
• 52:26
  you
• 52:26
  go
• 52:26
  into
• 52:26
  the
• 52:26
  work
• 52:27
  environment
• 52:27
  and
• 52:28
  things,
• 52:28
  it's
• 52:28
  like,
• 52:28
  what
• 52:29
  the
• 52:30
  most
• 52:31
  jobs
• 52:31
  I've
• 52:31
  had,
• 52:32
  I
• 52:32
  could
• 52:32
  go
• 52:32
  to
• 52:32
  the
• 52:32
  loo
• 52:32
  and
• 52:33
  I
• 52:33
  wanted
• 52:33
  to
• 52:33
  go
• 52:33
  to
• 52:33
  the
• 52:33
  loo.
• 52:34
  Like,
• 52:35
  you
• 52:35
  know,
• 52:35
  I
• 52:36
  appreciate
• 52:36
  as
• 52:36
  a
• 52:36
  teacher,
• 52:37
  you
• 52:37
  can't.
• 52:38
  My
• 52:38
  mum
• 52:39
  had
• 52:39
  to
• 52:39
  let
• 52:39
  you
• 52:39
  know.
• 52:39
  My
• 52:40
  mum
• 52:40
  used
• 52:40
  to
• 52:40
  go
• 52:40
  on
• 52:40
  about
• 52:41
  that
• 52:41
  as
• 52:42
  a
• 52:42
  teacher,
• 52:42
  she
• 52:42
  was
• 52:42
  like,
• 52:42
  you
• 52:43
  have
• 52:43
  to
• 52:43
  learn
• 52:43
  to
• 52:43
  have
• 52:43
  a
• 52:43
  really
• 52:43
  strong
• 52:44
  bladder
• 52:44
  because
• 52:44
  you
• 52:44
  can't
• 52:45
  leave
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  classroom.
• 52:46
  You
• 52:46
  know,
• 52:46
  maybe
• 52:47
  as
• 52:47
  a
• 52:47
  doctor
• 52:47
  or
• 52:48
  a
• 52:48
  nurse,
• 52:48
  if
• 52:48
  you're
• 52:48
  in
• 52:49
  the
• 52:49
  middle
• 52:49
  of
• 52:49
  doing
• 52:49
  something,
• 52:50
  you
• 52:50
  know,
• 52:50
  they
• 52:50
  can't
• 52:50
  just
• 52:51
  go.
• 52:51
  There
• 52:51
  are
• 52:52
  certain
• 52:53
  professions
• 52:54
  where,
• 52:54
  yeah,
• 52:54
  maybe
• 52:55
  you
• 52:55
  can't,
• 52:55
  you
• 52:55
  know,
• 52:55
  if
• 52:56
  you're
• 52:56
  performing
• 52:57
  on
• 52:57
  stage,
• 52:57
  you
• 52:58
  can't
• 52:58
  run
• 52:58
  off
• 52:58
  and
• 52:58
  go
• 52:59
  to
• 52:59
  the
• 52:59
  toilet.
• 52:59
  Yes,
• 53:01
  but
• 53:01
  in
• 53:01
  most
• 53:02
  jobs
• 53:03
  or
• 53:04
  most
• 53:04
  situations
• 53:06
  you
• 53:06
  can
• 53:07
  go
• 53:07
  to
• 53:08
  the
• 53:08
  toilet
• 53:08
  when
• 53:08
  you
• 53:08
  want
• 53:09
  to
• 53:09
  go
• 53:09
  to
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  toilet.
• 53:10
  It's
• 53:11
  interesting
• 53:11
  as
• 53:11
  well,
• 53:12
  isn't
• 53:12
  it,
• 53:12
  that
• 53:12
  when
• 53:12
  we
• 53:13
  as
• 53:13
  adults,
• 53:14
  when
• 53:14
  people
• 53:15
  tell
• 53:15
  us
• 53:15
  about
• 53:15
  jobs
• 53:16
  that
• 53:16
  they
• 53:16
  do,
• 53:17
  you
• 53:17
  know,
• 53:18
  like,
• 53:18
  for
• 53:18
  example,
• 53:18
  you
• 53:19
  know,
• 53:19
  the
• 53:19
  famous.
• 53:20
  There
• 53:20
  was
• 53:20
  a
• 53:20
  documentary
• 53:21
  about
• 53:21
  if
• 53:22
  you
• 53:22
  work
• 53:22
  for
• 53:22
  Amazon
• 53:23
  or
• 53:23
  whoever
• 53:23
  it
• 53:23
  was
• 53:23
  and
• 53:24
  you
• 53:24
  have
• 53:24
  to
• 53:24
  pick
• 53:24
  certain
• 53:25
  things
• 53:25
  off
• 53:25
  the
• 53:25
  shelves
• 53:26
  in
• 53:26
  a
• 53:26
  certain
• 53:26
  time
• 53:26
  limit.
• 53:27
  And
• 53:28
  I
• 53:28
  know
• 53:28
  that
• 53:28
  I
• 53:28
  had
• 53:28
  a
• 53:28
  job
• 53:29
  where
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  was
• 53:29
  doing
• 53:29
  telesales
• 53:30
  or
• 53:30
  something
• 53:30
  and
• 53:31
  we
• 53:31
  couldn't
• 53:31
  go
• 53:32
  to
• 53:32
  the
• 53:32
  toilet
• 53:32
  when
• 53:32
  we
• 53:32
  wanted,
• 53:33
  we
• 53:33
  were
• 53:33
  only
• 53:33
  allowed
• 53:34
  certain
• 53:34
  specific.
• 53:35
  You
• 53:36
  can
• 53:36
  only
• 53:36
  take
• 53:36
  like
• 53:36
  three
• 53:37
  minutes
• 53:37
  every
• 53:37
  four
• 53:38
  hours
• 53:38
  or
• 53:38
  whatever
• 53:38
  ridiculous
• 53:39
  thing
• 53:39
  it
• 53:39
  was.
• 53:39
  And
• 53:39
  I
• 53:40
  would,
• 53:40
  even
• 53:40
  back
• 53:40
  in
• 53:41
  the
• 53:41
  day,
• 53:41
  this
• 53:41
  was
• 53:41
  in
• 53:41
  the
• 53:42
  like
• 53:42
  noughties.
• 53:43
  I
• 53:44
  would
• 53:44
  tell
• 53:44
  my
• 53:44
  friends
• 53:44
  and
• 53:45
  they'd
• 53:45
  be
• 53:45
  like,
• 53:45
  that's
• 53:45
  crazy.
• 53:46
  Like
• 53:46
  that,
• 53:47
  you
• 53:47
  know,
• 53:47
  you
• 53:47
  should
• 53:47
  be
• 53:47
  allowed
• 53:48
  to
• 53:48
  go
• 53:48
  to
• 53:48
  the
• 53:48
  toilet
• 53:48
  when
• 53:48
  you
• 53:49
  want.
• 53:49
  And
• 53:49
  you
• 53:50
  know,
• 53:50
  people
• 53:50
  watch
• 53:50
  documentaries
• 53:51
  about,
• 53:51
  about
• 53:52
  jobs
• 53:53
  that
• 53:53
  are
• 53:53
  really
• 53:54
  make
• 53:54
  you
• 53:54
  do
• 53:54
  things
• 53:54
  on
• 53:55
  at
• 53:55
  certain
• 53:55
  times.
• 53:56
  And
• 53:56
  we,
• 53:56
  and
• 53:56
  we're
• 53:56
  up
• 53:57
  in
• 53:57
  arms
• 53:57
  about
• 53:57
  it
• 53:57
  with
• 53:58
  our
• 53:58
  children
• 53:58
  in
• 53:58
  school,
• 53:59
  we're
• 53:59
  just
• 53:59
  like,
• 53:59
  yeah,
• 53:59
  no,
• 53:59
  this
• 54:00
  is
• 54:00
  good
• 54:00
  preparation
• 54:01
  for
• 54:01
  life.
• 54:01
  And
• 54:01
  yet
• 54:01
  what.
• 54:02
  It's
• 54:02
  a
• 54:02
  life
• 54:02
  we
• 54:02
  don't
• 54:02
  actually
• 54:03
  want
• 54:03
  to
• 54:03
  live
• 54:03
  and
• 54:03
  we
• 54:04
  don't
• 54:04
  like
• 54:04
  it
• 54:04
  when
• 54:04
  other
• 54:04
  people
• 54:05
  live
• 54:05
  it.
• 54:05
  It's
• 54:06
  crazy.
• 54:07
  Yeah,
• 54:07
  yeah,
• 54:07
  yeah.
• 54:08
  It's.
• 54:09
  It's
• 54:09
  this
• 54:09
  weird
• 54:11
  kind
• 54:12
  of
• 54:12
  universe
• 54:12
  where
• 54:12
  it's
• 54:13
  okay
• 54:13
  for
• 54:13
  our
• 54:13
  little
• 54:14
  children,
• 54:15
  little
• 54:15
  people,
• 54:15
  but
• 54:16
  not
• 54:16
  for
• 54:16
  big
• 54:16
  people.
• 54:17
  And
• 54:17
  you
• 54:17
  know,
• 54:18
  the
• 54:18
  scary
• 54:18
  thing
• 54:18
  is
• 54:19
  the
• 54:19
  amount
• 54:19
  of
• 54:20
  people
• 54:20
  who
• 54:20
  said
• 54:21
  to
• 54:21
  me
• 54:22
  that
• 54:23
  experiencing
• 54:24
  bullying
• 54:25
  in
• 54:25
  school
• 54:27
  sets
• 54:27
  you
• 54:27
  up
• 54:27
  for
• 54:28
  life.
• 54:29
  Your
• 54:29
  children
• 54:29
  need
• 54:30
  to
• 54:30
  experience
• 54:30
  that.
• 54:31
  And
• 54:32
  that
• 54:33
  scares
• 54:34
  the
• 54:34
  life
• 54:34
  out
• 54:35
  of
• 54:35
  me
• 54:36
  because
• 54:37
  no
• 54:37
  amount
• 54:38
  I
• 54:38
  was
• 54:38
  bullied
• 54:38
  all
• 54:39
  through
• 54:39
  school
• 54:40
  and
• 54:40
  I
• 54:40
  still
• 54:41
  now
• 54:41
  as
• 54:41
  an
• 54:41
  adult,
• 54:43
  that
• 54:43
  the
• 54:43
  resilience
• 54:44
  I've
• 54:44
  built
• 54:45
  up
• 54:46
  has
• 54:46
  been,
• 54:47
  despite
• 54:47
  that,
• 54:48
  not
• 54:48
  because
• 54:49
  of
• 54:49
  it.
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  don't
• 54:52
  have
• 54:53
  a
• 54:53
  resilience
• 54:54
  to,
• 54:55
  you
• 54:55
  know,
• 54:56
  I
• 54:56
  wouldn't
• 54:56
  put
• 54:56
  up
• 54:57
  with
• 54:57
  bullying
• 54:57
  now,
• 54:59
  but
• 55:00
  because
• 55:00
  I've
• 55:01
  learned
• 55:01
  to
• 55:01
  put
• 55:02
  boundaries
• 55:02
  in
• 55:02
  and
• 55:02
  I've
• 55:03
  learnt
• 55:03
  myself
• 55:03
  worth.
• 55:04
  But
• 55:05
  that's
• 55:05
  only
• 55:05
  been
• 55:05
  in
• 55:06
  the
• 55:06
  last
• 55:06
  few
• 55:06
  years.
• 55:07
  I,
• 55:08
  I
• 55:08
  then
• 55:08
  did
• 55:08
  experience
• 55:09
  bullying
• 55:10
  within
• 55:11
  the
• 55:11
  workplace
• 55:12
  as
• 55:12
  an
• 55:12
  adult.
• 55:13
  I
• 55:14
  had.
• 55:14
  That
• 55:14
  still
• 55:15
  had
• 55:15
  the
• 55:15
  same
• 55:15
  effect
• 55:16
  on
• 55:16
  me
• 55:17
  as
• 55:17
  it
• 55:17
  did
• 55:18
  as
• 55:18
  a
• 55:18
  child.
• 55:20
  The,
• 55:20
  the
• 55:20
  thought
• 55:21
  that
• 55:22
  that's
• 55:22
  like,
• 55:22
  I
• 55:23
  don't
• 55:23
  know,
• 55:24
  saying
• 55:24
  that,
• 55:26
  you
• 55:26
  know,
• 55:26
  if
• 55:26
  you
• 55:27
  allow
• 55:27
  yourself
• 55:27
  to
• 55:28
  be
• 55:28
  hit
• 55:29
  by
• 55:29
  a
• 55:29
  car,
• 55:30
  you'll
• 55:30
  build
• 55:30
  up
• 55:30
  resilience
• 55:31
  so
• 55:31
  that
• 55:31
  then
• 55:31
  when
• 55:32
  you're
• 55:32
  hit
• 55:32
  by
• 55:32
  a
• 55:32
  car
• 55:32
  again,
• 55:33
  it
• 55:33
  won't
• 55:33
  feel
• 55:33
  as
• 55:34
  painful.
• 55:34
  I
• 55:34
  mean,
• 55:34
  it's
• 55:35
  ridiculous.
• 55:36
  Yeah.
• 55:37
  No
• 55:37
  one
• 55:37
  should
• 55:38
  experience
• 55:38
  bullying,
• 55:39
  full
• 55:39
  stop,
• 55:40
  end
• 55:40
  of
• 55:40
  sentence.
• 55:42
  The
• 55:43
  thought
• 55:43
  that
• 55:45
  being
• 55:45
  in
• 55:45
  an
• 55:46
  environment
• 55:46
  where
• 55:46
  your
• 55:47
  needs
• 55:47
  aren't
• 55:47
  met
• 55:48
  and
• 55:48
  you're
• 55:49
  potentially
• 55:49
  bullied
• 55:50
  or
• 55:50
  you're
• 55:51
  overlooked
• 55:51
  and
• 55:52
  things
• 55:52
  builds
• 55:52
  up
• 55:52
  resilience.
• 55:54
  No,
• 55:55
  I
• 55:56
  think
• 55:56
  that
• 55:56
  that
• 55:56
  argument
• 55:57
  that
• 55:57
  you
• 55:58
  hear
• 55:58
  is
• 55:59
  the
• 55:59
  most
• 56:00
  unpleasant
• 56:01
  one
• 56:01
  and
• 56:01
  it's
• 56:02
  also
• 56:02
  one
• 56:02
  of
• 56:02
  the
• 56:02
  most
• 56:03
  common.
• 56:03
  And
• 56:03
  I
• 56:04
  always
• 56:04
  say,
• 56:04
  luckily
• 56:05
  I'm
• 56:05
  able
• 56:05
  to
• 56:06
  like,
• 56:06
  say,
• 56:06
  say
• 56:06
  this
• 56:06
  as
• 56:07
  a
• 56:07
  therapist,
• 56:07
  I
• 56:08
  feel
• 56:08
  like
• 56:08
  I've
• 56:08
  got
• 56:08
  like
• 56:09
  some,
• 56:09
  some
• 56:09
  like
• 56:10
  actual
• 56:10
  qualifications
• 56:10
  to
• 56:11
  say
• 56:11
  this.
• 56:11
  But
• 56:11
  I
• 56:11
  always
• 56:11
  say,
• 56:12
  like,
• 56:12
  if
• 56:12
  you're
• 56:12
  bullied
• 56:12
  at
• 56:13
  school,
• 56:13
  you
• 56:13
  don't
• 56:13
  grow
• 56:13
  up
• 56:13
  resilient.
• 56:14
  You
• 56:14
  grow.
• 56:14
  You
• 56:15
  grow
• 56:15
  up
• 56:15
  traumatized.
• 56:16
  That's
• 56:16
  what
• 56:16
  happens.
• 56:17
  You
• 56:17
  don't
• 56:17
  gain
• 56:17
  anything.
• 56:18
  It's
• 56:18
  just
• 56:18
  that
• 56:18
  you
• 56:18
  have
• 56:19
  stuff
• 56:19
  that
• 56:19
  you
• 56:19
  need
• 56:19
  to
• 56:19
  work
• 56:20
  through,
• 56:20
  usually
• 56:20
  at
• 56:20
  a
• 56:20
  very
• 56:21
  expensive
• 56:21
  hourly
• 56:21
  rate
• 56:22
  with
• 56:22
  somebody
• 56:22
  when
• 56:22
  you're
• 56:23
  like
• 56:23
  40
• 56:23
  years
• 56:23
  old.
• 56:24
  So.
• 56:24
  Which
• 56:24
  is
• 56:25
  good
• 56:25
  for
• 56:25
  me.
• 56:25
  But,
• 56:25
  you
• 56:26
  know.
• 56:26
  Anyway,
• 56:27
  so
• 56:27
  before
• 56:27
  we
• 56:28
  finish,
• 56:28
  I
• 56:28
  just,
• 56:28
  I
• 56:29
  just
• 56:29
  want
• 56:29
  to
• 56:29
  ask
• 56:29
  you
• 56:29
  very
• 56:29
  quickly,
• 56:30
  what
• 56:30
  would
• 56:30
  be
• 56:31
  the
• 56:31
  single
• 56:32
  biggest
• 56:32
  piece
• 56:32
  of
• 56:32
  advice
• 56:33
  you
• 56:33
  would
• 56:33
  give
• 56:33
  to
• 56:33
  a
• 56:34
  neurodivergent
• 56:35
  parent
• 56:36
  home?
• 56:36
  Educating
• 56:36
  neurodivergent
• 56:37
  child
• 56:38
  children.
• 56:41
  Be
• 56:42
  kind
• 56:42
  to
• 56:42
  yourself
• 56:43
  and
• 56:43
  take
• 56:44
  your
• 56:44
  time.
• 56:45
  The
• 56:45
  biggest
• 56:46
  thing
• 56:46
  is,
• 56:46
  is
• 56:48
  there's
• 56:48
  no,
• 56:49
  there's
• 56:50
  no
• 56:50
  perfect.
• 56:52
  And
• 56:52
  just
• 56:53
  try
• 56:53
  everything
• 56:53
  out
• 56:54
  and
• 56:55
  keep
• 56:56
  revising
• 56:56
  it.
• 56:57
  Because
• 56:58
  that,
• 56:58
  that's
• 56:59
  been
• 56:59
  the
• 56:59
  thing
• 56:59
  for
• 56:59
  me
• 56:59
  is
• 57:00
  that,
• 57:00
  you
• 57:00
  know,
• 57:01
  what's
• 57:01
  working
• 57:02
  right
• 57:02
  now
• 57:03
  might
• 57:04
  not
• 57:04
  work
• 57:04
  in
• 57:05
  a
• 57:05
  month's
• 57:05
  time,
• 57:06
  a
• 57:06
  year's
• 57:06
  time,
• 57:07
  three
• 57:07
  years
• 57:07
  time.
• 57:08
  We
• 57:08
  might
• 57:08
  be
• 57:08
  doing
• 57:08
  something
• 57:09
  completely
• 57:09
  different
• 57:10
  and
• 57:10
  go
• 57:10
  with
• 57:11
  it
• 57:11
  and
• 57:12
  don't
• 57:13
  put
• 57:13
  pressure
• 57:13
  on
• 57:14
  yourself.
• 57:15
  Create
• 57:16
  a
• 57:16
  little
• 57:16
  bit
• 57:16
  of
• 57:17
  structure.
• 57:17
  I
• 57:17
  do
• 57:18
  think
• 57:18
  that
• 57:18
  that
• 57:19
  is
• 57:19
  beneficial
• 57:20
  for
• 57:20
  everybody,
• 57:21
  but
• 57:21
  what
• 57:21
  that
• 57:21
  looks
• 57:22
  like
• 57:22
  for
• 57:22
  you
• 57:22
  is
• 57:23
  completely
• 57:23
  personal
• 57:24
  to
• 57:24
  you.
• 57:24
  And
• 57:24
  if
• 57:25
  that's
• 57:25
  getting
• 57:25
  up
• 57:25
  at
• 57:26
  midday
• 57:26
  and
• 57:26
  going
• 57:26
  to
• 57:27
  bed
• 57:27
  at
• 57:27
  midnight
• 57:28
  for
• 57:28
  your
• 57:28
  family
• 57:28
  and
• 57:29
  that
• 57:29
  works,
• 57:29
  then
• 57:29
  brilliant.
• 57:30
  If
• 57:30
  it's
• 57:30
  getting
• 57:31
  up
• 57:31
  at
• 57:31
  five
• 57:32
  in
• 57:32
  the
• 57:32
  morning
• 57:32
  and
• 57:33
  going
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  bed
• 57:33
  early,
• 57:34
  whatever.
• 57:34
  But
• 57:34
  get
• 57:34
  yourself
• 57:35
  some
• 57:35
  structure.
• 57:37
  But
• 57:37
  structure
• 57:38
  that
• 57:38
  allows
• 57:39
  you
• 57:39
  to
• 57:41
  do
• 57:41
  what
• 57:41
  you
• 57:41
  want
• 57:42
  to
• 57:42
  throw
• 57:42
  out
• 57:42
  the
• 57:43
  window
• 57:43
  when
• 57:43
  you
• 57:43
  need
• 57:43
  to,
• 57:44
  to
• 57:44
  have
• 57:44
  those
• 57:44
  days
• 57:44
  when
• 57:45
  you
• 57:45
  just
• 57:45
  need
• 57:45
  to
• 57:47
  throw
• 57:47
  your
• 57:47
  arms
• 57:47
  up
• 57:47
  in
• 57:48
  the
• 57:48
  air
• 57:48
  and
• 57:49
  all
• 57:49
  just
• 57:50
  lie
• 57:51
  in
• 57:51
  a
• 57:51
  dark
• 57:51
  room.
• 57:52
  That's
• 57:53
  okay.
• 57:53
  And
• 57:55
  shut
• 57:55
  out
• 57:55
  the
• 57:55
  noise
• 57:57
  as,
• 57:58
  as.
• 57:59
  Your
• 57:59
  cat,
• 57:59
  as
• 57:59
  your
• 58:00
  cat
• 58:00
  meows
• 58:01
  in
• 58:01
  that
• 58:01
  very
• 58:01
  moment.
• 58:02
  Yeah.
• 58:03
  As
• 58:03
  I'm
• 58:03
  trying
• 58:03
  to
• 58:03
  do
• 58:04
  right
• 58:04
  now,
• 58:06
  shut
• 58:07
  out
• 58:07
  the
• 58:07
  noise.
• 58:08
  You
• 58:09
  know,
• 58:09
  allow
• 58:10
  people
• 58:10
  to,
• 58:11
  to,
• 58:11
  to
• 58:11
  give
• 58:12
  you
• 58:12
  advice
• 58:13
  and,
• 58:14
  and
• 58:14
  find
• 58:14
  your
• 58:15
  people.
• 58:16
  Find
• 58:16
  your
• 58:16
  people.
• 58:16
  Because
• 58:18
  having
• 58:18
  that
• 58:19
  village
• 58:19
  around
• 58:19
  you,
• 58:20
  having
• 58:20
  those
• 58:20
  people
• 58:20
  that
• 58:21
  get
• 58:21
  it.
• 58:21
  You
• 58:22
  know,
• 58:22
  I've.
• 58:23
  The
• 58:23
  friends
• 58:23
  of
• 58:24
  mine
• 58:24
  who
• 58:24
  are
• 58:24
  also
• 58:24
  neurodivergent
• 58:25
  who
• 58:25
  also
• 58:26
  have
• 58:26
  neurodivergent
• 58:27
  children.
• 58:27
  They're
• 58:27
  the
• 58:27
  ones,
• 58:28
  they're
• 58:28
  the
• 58:28
  ones
• 58:28
  I
• 58:28
  gravitate
• 58:29
  towards.
• 58:29
  They're
• 58:29
  the
• 58:29
  ones
• 58:29
  that
• 58:30
  keep
• 58:30
  me
• 58:30
  sane.
• 58:31
  You
• 58:31
  know,
• 58:31
  having.
• 58:33
  Finding
• 58:34
  the
• 58:34
  people
• 58:34
  who.
• 58:35
  And
• 58:35
  you
• 58:35
  will
• 58:36
  find
• 58:36
  them.
• 58:36
  And
• 58:36
  you
• 58:36
  may
• 58:37
  have
• 58:37
  to
• 58:37
  go
• 58:37
  to
• 58:38
  several
• 58:38
  groups,
• 58:39
  you
• 58:39
  may
• 58:39
  have
• 58:40
  to
• 58:40
  try
• 58:40
  lots
• 58:41
  of
• 58:41
  different
• 58:41
  things
• 58:41
  out,
• 58:42
  but
• 58:42
  keep
• 58:42
  trying
• 58:43
  and
• 58:43
  you
• 58:43
  will
• 58:44
  find
• 58:44
  those
• 58:44
  people
• 58:45
  and
• 58:45
  you
• 58:45
  will
• 58:46
  find.
• 58:46
  And
• 58:46
  it
• 58:47
  doesn't
• 58:47
  have
• 58:47
  to
• 58:47
  be
• 58:47
  hundreds
• 58:48
  of
• 58:48
  people.
• 58:48
  It
• 58:48
  can
• 58:48
  be
• 58:48
  one
• 58:48
  person,
• 58:49
  one
• 58:50
  person
• 58:50
  for
• 58:50
  your
• 58:50
  child
• 58:51
  or
• 58:51
  one
• 58:51
  person
• 58:51
  for
• 58:52
  you.
• 58:52
  That,
• 58:52
  that,
• 58:52
  that
• 58:53
  brings
• 58:53
  that
• 58:53
  connection
• 58:54
  gets
• 58:54
  it.
• 58:55
  And,
• 58:56
  and,
• 58:56
  and
• 58:57
  they
• 58:57
  they
• 58:57
  will
• 58:57
  be
• 58:58
  there.
• 58:58
  And
• 58:59
  just,
• 59:00
  yeah,
• 59:01
  just,
• 59:01
  just
• 59:02
  trust
• 59:02
  in
• 59:02
  yourself.
• 59:03
  You,
• 59:04
  you
• 59:04
  are
• 59:04
  the
• 59:05
  expert
• 59:05
  in
• 59:05
  your
• 59:05
  child,
• 59:06
  and
• 59:06
  you
• 59:06
  are
• 59:07
  the
• 59:07
  expert
• 59:07
  in
• 59:07
  you.
• 59:08
  And
• 59:09
  just
• 59:09
  remember
• 59:09
  that
• 59:09
  because
• 59:11
  we
• 59:11
  are
• 59:12
  frequently
• 59:13
  told
• 59:13
  that
• 59:15
  everyone,
• 59:15
  you
• 59:16
  know,
• 59:16
  society
• 59:17
  knows
• 59:17
  best
• 59:18
  about
• 59:19
  what
• 59:19
  our
• 59:20
  children
• 59:20
  need.
• 59:20
  And
• 59:22
  no
• 59:22
  one
• 59:23
  can
• 59:23
  be
• 59:23
  more
• 59:23
  of
• 59:23
  an
• 59:23
  expert
• 59:23
  on
• 59:24
  your
• 59:24
  child
• 59:24
  than
• 59:24
  you.
• 59:25
  So
• 59:26
  trust
• 59:26
  in
• 59:26
  yourself
• 59:27
  and
• 59:29
  keep
• 59:29
  advocating
• 59:30
  for
• 59:30
  your
• 59:30
  child.
• 59:31
  Lovely.
• 59:32
  Good
• 59:32
  advice.
• 59:33
  I
• 59:33
  love
• 59:34
  that.
• 59:34
  Okay.
• 59:34
  Emily,
• 59:35
  thank
• 59:35
  you
• 59:35
  so
• 59:35
  much
• 59:36
  for
• 59:36
  coming
• 59:36
  on
• 59:36
  the
• 59:36
  podcast
• 59:37
  today.
• 59:37
  It's
• 59:37
  been
• 59:38
  really
• 59:38
  a
• 59:39
  pleasure
• 59:39
  to
• 59:39
  have
• 59:39
  you
• 59:40
  on.
• 59:40
  Thank
• 59:40
  you
• 59:40
  so
• 59:40
  much.
• 59:41
  Enjoyed
• 59:41
  it.
• 59:41
  Thank
• 59:42
  you.
• 59:42
  Thank
• 59:43
  you
• 59:43
  so
• 59:43
  much
• 59:43
  for
• 59:43
  joining
• 59:43
  us
• 59:44
  for
• 59:44
  today's
• 59:44
  Home
• 59:44
  Education
• 59:45
  Matters
• 59:45
  podcast.
• 59:46
  See
• 59:46
  you
• 59:46
  at
• 59:46
  the
• 59:46
  next
• 59:47
  one.
• 59:47
  Have
• 59:47
  a
• 59:47
  lovely
• 59:48
  day.