Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Gesine Prado, host of Food Network's hit series "Baked in Vermont," talks about following your dream
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Sections. There we go. Welcome to money making Conversation. I
- 0:03Speaker 1: am your host with Sean McDonald. I always tell people
- 0:06Speaker 1: every time on this show to stop reading other people's
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- 0:14Speaker 1: don't let your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop you
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- 0:19Speaker 1: interviews I have for the consumers, for the business entrepreneurs
- 0:22Speaker 1: as well, bringing celebrity friends and CEOs, entrepreneurs and people
- 0:27Speaker 1: would like to call industry decision makers. My next guest
- 0:30Speaker 1: is Jina Product. I haven't had on like two and
- 0:32Speaker 1: a half years, so we got a lot to catch
- 0:34Speaker 1: up with. She's the host of the Food Networks hit
- 0:36Speaker 1: series Baked in Vermont. You can catch all the episodes
- 0:40Speaker 1: of Baked in Vermont streaming on Disney Plus. Justina as
- 0:43Speaker 1: a pastry show, it can instruct a TV host successful author.
- 0:48Speaker 1: She's currently a judge on the Food Network show Best
- 0:51Speaker 1: Baker in America. You hear that, y'all, That means that
- 0:54Speaker 1: if you think you can bake, watch this show. You'll
- 0:57Speaker 1: find out you can't bake and you need to just
- 1:00Speaker 1: shut your mouth now when she is a film, when
- 1:02Speaker 1: you can find her back home and from off where
- 1:04Speaker 1: she hit right now, looking at that the fireplace right
- 1:07Speaker 1: there where she teaches students. I was supposed to be
- 1:09Speaker 1: one of those students going up there in the month
- 1:11Speaker 1: of January. She booted some people out of the class
- 1:14Speaker 1: and then there's no storm hit now, so so I old.
- 1:18Speaker 1: So she she's up there doing her thing. And he's
- 1:20Speaker 1: a kitchen call Sugar Glide of kitchen, and she frequently
- 1:23Speaker 1: collaborates with my wife's favorite Flower, you know, Keen author Flower.
- 1:27Speaker 1: She's on the show to talk about judging ten world
- 1:30Speaker 1: class bakers. They're battling out on the new season of
- 1:34Speaker 1: Food Networks Best Baker in America. Season four is airing
- 1:38Speaker 1: right now. He's working with the money making conversations again. Justina,
- 1:42Speaker 1: how you know? I'm you look fantastic, Justina, you look beautiful.
- 1:48Speaker 1: You really look amazing. Thank you. Um, it's time. I
- 1:53Speaker 1: think everybody's feeling good. But I see the fireplace back
- 1:56Speaker 1: there now. Your spring may be a little bit different
- 1:58Speaker 1: than my spring. Right that's it's humming behind you. It
- 2:03Speaker 1: is genuinely cold today, but I'm hoping, you know it
- 2:06Speaker 1: goes back and forth. It'll get warmer, it'll get there cool.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Now when when we look at the first of all,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I want to talk about the school that you have
- 2:15Speaker 1: that you teach now you ever and I think you
- 2:18Speaker 1: have to drive a little bit outside of Burlington to
- 2:20Speaker 1: get your location right. Yes, yes, we're we're about We're
- 2:25Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of the state, so about
- 2:27Speaker 1: an hour away from Burlington. Um, we're actually really close
- 2:31Speaker 1: to New Hampshire. It's weird where we are, but we
- 2:34Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, it's awesome. And so what prompted you
- 2:37Speaker 1: to do with school? What prompted the naz on TV?
- 2:40Speaker 1: So it's even more popular, But it all starts with
- 2:42Speaker 1: a dream. What prompted you to follow through in your
- 2:45Speaker 1: dream to create the school? Well, I had had a
- 2:48Speaker 1: pastry shop and I was working from three am to
- 2:54Speaker 1: seven pm every day and that it was successful, but
- 2:59Speaker 1: I like sleep too much and we could never leave
- 3:02Speaker 1: because it was small town Vermont. It's really hard to get, um,
- 3:08Speaker 1: the same amount of skill in baking to have someone
- 3:12Speaker 1: there when I leave. So, um, we stopped that and
- 3:15Speaker 1: I realized afterwards I was asked to teach it. King
- 3:18Speaker 1: Arthur Flower some master classes there, and then I started
- 3:22Speaker 1: teaching online for Crafty and then at Stonewall Kitchen, and
- 3:29Speaker 1: I loved doing that part. I loved imparting my knowledge
- 3:34Speaker 1: to people because I was the kind of baker that
- 3:37Speaker 1: I've had professional um learning and baking, but when I
- 3:42Speaker 1: started out, I didn't. I was a home baker. I
- 3:44Speaker 1: taught myself and so I knew how to talk to
- 3:49Speaker 1: people who were trying to figure things out at home.
- 3:51Speaker 1: So if they read a professional book, they couldn't quite
- 3:55Speaker 1: understand what was going on or what that mistakement. And
- 3:59Speaker 1: so that was brought me so much joy to kind
- 4:02Speaker 1: of share the secrets that I had learned from my mistakes. Well,
- 4:05Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting. I'm about to launch. I'm
- 4:07Speaker 1: just bragging a little bit here. Just you know, I'm
- 4:09Speaker 1: about to launch my own cooking baking shows called Russenge Kitchen.
- 4:12Speaker 1: It's gonna have been launching in the joy by two
- 4:14Speaker 1: million homeowners who are gonna get to watch me every Thursday.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And but I'm just I'm just a guy who figured
- 4:21Speaker 1: it out in the kitchen. You know, I've not been trained.
- 4:24Speaker 1: And you said that too. When when don't you get
- 4:26Speaker 1: the confidence that you could really do this because there
- 4:28Speaker 1: are a lot of naturally trained people in kitchens around
- 4:31Speaker 1: this country, but don't take it to the next level.
- 4:34Speaker 1: What pushed you to believe that you could take it
- 4:36Speaker 1: to the next level? Well, um, I when I when
- 4:40Speaker 1: I was asked to Arthur Flower, I thought, well, I'm
- 4:44Speaker 1: a professional baker now. Uh. But I wasn't quite sure
- 4:47Speaker 1: that I had the skills to impart that knowledge. But
- 4:51Speaker 1: I thought it was worth trying, and they I thought
- 4:56Speaker 1: I had done such a good job that they kept
- 4:58Speaker 1: asking me back, and so more I taught, the more
- 5:01Speaker 1: I was like, oh, not only do I enjoy this,
- 5:03Speaker 1: but I'm really good at this. And then my husband
- 5:06Speaker 1: actually was I was teaching at Stonewall Kitchen and Maine,
- 5:10Speaker 1: and my husband was picking me up, and so he
- 5:13Speaker 1: walked in on the back of the class, kind of
- 5:16Speaker 1: towards the end, and he said to me after class,
- 5:18Speaker 1: he goes, You're amazing at this. You need to be
- 5:21Speaker 1: doing this all the time. And that was the impetus
- 5:24Speaker 1: for opening the school. Um. I'm also I've also trained
- 5:30Speaker 1: I feel like my whole life for this, and I
- 5:33Speaker 1: am one of those people that I believe that if
- 5:35Speaker 1: you're not learning, then you're not living, and so I
- 5:39Speaker 1: spend a lot of time uh kind of consulting with
- 5:43Speaker 1: kind of the masters of the craft and um honing
- 5:46Speaker 1: my skills all the time in chocolate work and sugar work,
- 5:51Speaker 1: in bread and in viennoissurie and lamination like these are
- 5:56Speaker 1: the things that I'm an expert at it, but always
- 6:00Speaker 1: find joy and learning more about the things that I
- 6:03Speaker 1: think I know everything about. And then you learn something
- 6:06Speaker 1: new and you're like, ah, that's so great. I have
- 6:08Speaker 1: a new I have a new little bit of knowledge
- 6:11Speaker 1: that I can work with. Well, you know, I think
- 6:13Speaker 1: that when you're hosting a show and you're in you're
- 6:15Speaker 1: around world class bakers, that always there's a learning curve too,
- 6:18Speaker 1: because they're gonna do some things that have techniques they
- 6:21Speaker 1: kind of like like you go, wow, I would have
- 6:23Speaker 1: never done it that way. What was the judge in
- 6:25Speaker 1: this show? And it's already premiered on the Food Network
- 6:28Speaker 1: and there's ten of the best around the country. What
- 6:31Speaker 1: did you learn the most about yourself? And what did
- 6:33Speaker 1: you learn about watching people use other different making techniques
- 6:37Speaker 1: that you may not use or consider. Well, I think
- 6:41Speaker 1: they didn't use anything that I don't use. But so
- 6:44Speaker 1: what was really interesting is seeing very young people, uh
- 6:48Speaker 1: use techniques that they were inspired by from their grandmother.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So in a pastry kitchen, we usually use a lot
- 6:54Speaker 1: of very high tech equipment. We have very the skill
- 6:57Speaker 1: level is really high. Like in chocolate work, it's a
- 7:00Speaker 1: lot of science and and and it's it's almost like
- 7:03Speaker 1: you're a master builder. You have to know these really
- 7:05Speaker 1: amazing things. But it was so lovely to see such
- 7:08Speaker 1: a young person coming in and being the most inspired
- 7:12Speaker 1: by her grandmother's baking. And that made me so happy
- 7:16Speaker 1: to see her kind of create these really wonderful things
- 7:20Speaker 1: that used her really like high salute and pastry skills,
- 7:25Speaker 1: but you could just feel her grandma's love and everything
- 7:29Speaker 1: that she did. That's amazing. Not call the Hall is
- 7:32Speaker 1: the host, you know, and uh and she's one of
- 7:34Speaker 1: my favorite people because she's funny. And so when when
- 7:37Speaker 1: call the Hall is going to host them because she's
- 7:39Speaker 1: bigger than life. She's a former model and so she's
- 7:42Speaker 1: she's articulate, she she's she is really authentic, I like
- 7:46Speaker 1: to say, because when you walk in the room, you're
- 7:48Speaker 1: gonna get call of Hall. But she's funny. What was
- 7:51Speaker 1: it like working with her. You work with it before,
- 7:53Speaker 1: of course, but what was it like working with this
- 7:55Speaker 1: particular show because there's a lot on the line, because
- 7:57Speaker 1: you have reputations, you have people competing for twenty and
- 8:01Speaker 1: his ten of them talk about that. Uh, Carla. I
- 8:06Speaker 1: met Carla years ago and you can't not fall in
- 8:10Speaker 1: love with her when you meet her. But you also
- 8:14Speaker 1: know that it's the same for everyone. That you're not
- 8:17Speaker 1: special because everyone loves her. She's just as great with
- 8:22Speaker 1: everyone around her. I think what is so special about her,
- 8:27Speaker 1: aside from the fact that she's so funny, she's so smart,
- 8:29Speaker 1: she's so beautiful, uh, and she's so good at what
- 8:32Speaker 1: she does, is that she makes everyone feel as if
- 8:36Speaker 1: they're special and they're talented, and it's it's so great
- 8:41Speaker 1: to be with someone who we both share such a
- 8:46Speaker 1: huge respect for the Bakers, um, for others around us,
- 8:51Speaker 1: and for the crew that's working to make everything happen.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Uh and so and so Jason the other judge as well.
- 8:58Speaker 1: We both were very similar and how we felt about
- 9:02Speaker 1: making everybody happy around us and letting them know that
- 9:05Speaker 1: we respected everything that they were doing. Um. But she's
- 9:10Speaker 1: just I can't say enough wonderful things about her because
- 9:13Speaker 1: she is one of those truly extraordinary human beings. She's
- 9:16Speaker 1: like one in a million. And I would spend a
- 9:20Speaker 1: lot of time just telling her how amazing she was,
- 9:23Speaker 1: because I was in awe of how she's so great
- 9:29Speaker 1: at hosting and being funny and natural and giving and
- 9:34Speaker 1: and sometimes just a little you know, she knows how
- 9:37Speaker 1: to like go after people and it's not mean, but
- 9:41Speaker 1: she's messing with them and it's just she's just got
- 9:43Speaker 1: the best way about her. And then she's on top
- 9:45Speaker 1: of all of that, she's amazing chef. So it's really
- 9:47Speaker 1: not fair, but you can't. You love her so much
- 9:51Speaker 1: that you don't matter that she's better at you at
- 9:52Speaker 1: every time. So well, you know to think, first of all,
- 9:55Speaker 1: you are fantastic, though this is you call out be
- 9:58Speaker 1: interviewed on a hard time, but we talk about you.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I'll just mentioned referencing callor because she is amazing if
- 10:03Speaker 1: what she does, but you're amazing at what you do
- 10:05Speaker 1: because of the fact you you make it seem so natural.
- 10:08Speaker 1: That's gonna be honest about this. And when you put
- 10:10Speaker 1: into a judging environment. You kind of talked about it
- 10:12Speaker 1: when you was talking about Jason, because you know, you're
- 10:16Speaker 1: judging people's talents, they're putting in a pressure situation, they've
- 10:19Speaker 1: got time restraints put on it, and then they're giving
- 10:22Speaker 1: a theme tied to because each episode has a theme
- 10:25Speaker 1: tied to it. So when they invited you to come in,
- 10:27Speaker 1: it's the four seasons there right now on the Food Network.
- 10:30Speaker 1: You know, is the Best Baker in America challenge in
- 10:33Speaker 1: world class bakers and you have their basically baking lives
- 10:38Speaker 1: in your hands. How do you address that? It's really
- 10:42Speaker 1: hard because you, first of all, of course, you have
- 10:45Speaker 1: so much sympathy for them. It's totally not fair that
- 10:49Speaker 1: bakers have restrictions on timing because that's not what bakers do.
- 10:55Speaker 1: You usually have all the time in the world to work,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and they're all incredibly talented. But what we did do
- 11:02Speaker 1: is we we had priorities of our own. So when
- 11:06Speaker 1: you give them a challenge, and this year we asked
- 11:09Speaker 1: them to make kind of really traditional American regional desserts.
- 11:13Speaker 1: So the challenge there was honoring that dessert, which is
- 11:18Speaker 1: usually pretty homey, it's not like a very fancy thing, uh,
- 11:23Speaker 1: and so keeping to the heart of that, but at
- 11:26Speaker 1: the same time putting their own professional and personal spin
- 11:30Speaker 1: on it, and so we had a way of judging
- 11:34Speaker 1: them that wasn't just based on the fact that they
- 11:36Speaker 1: were all incredibly talented. We were asking them to do
- 11:40Speaker 1: something really specific, and sometimes it was easier to judge
- 11:45Speaker 1: when they kind of ignored what the featured flavor was
- 11:49Speaker 1: or what the actual dessert was that we were asking
- 11:51Speaker 1: them to riff off of. But sometimes it was just
- 11:55Speaker 1: incredibly hard because you don't want to tell someone that
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- 14:03Speaker 1: know I've had my bad days. I've thrown away stuff that.
- 14:07Speaker 1: You know, every good idea doesn't end up to be
- 14:10Speaker 1: a good idea in the kitchen. Now, let's talk about
- 14:12Speaker 1: that premiere episode because it already is air okay, And
- 14:15Speaker 1: it was and it was, like you said, it was regional.
- 14:17Speaker 1: So they went to Kentucky. Now, I was gonna ask
- 14:20Speaker 1: you this question prior to the show, did they tell
- 14:22Speaker 1: you where they were going? And they left you in
- 14:24Speaker 1: suspense as well as a judge. Um, we know generally
- 14:28Speaker 1: what's going to what they're going to be doing, We
- 14:31Speaker 1: know generally, Um, But everything is a surprise when it
- 14:35Speaker 1: comes to what people are making. You have no idea
- 14:37Speaker 1: what they'll come up with, which is what is so exciting.
- 14:40Speaker 1: And you get to know the person through their choices
- 14:44Speaker 1: that they make. Um and everyone, every one of them
- 14:48Speaker 1: brought a part of their history to these things that
- 14:52Speaker 1: they were making which made it so special. Well, you know,
- 14:55Speaker 1: each episode baker Bus creates something elegant and delicious. We know,
- 14:59Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's almost like you know, it's
- 15:01Speaker 1: like getting in the car. It looks good, but you
- 15:03Speaker 1: can't drive it. It's like if you make something are
- 15:05Speaker 1: pretty dessert, is it edible? Is there? You go? Whoa
- 15:08Speaker 1: are you spitting it out? And so that's that. That's
- 15:10Speaker 1: the often times a challenge with that tab restriction, So
- 15:13Speaker 1: is talent? Is tab restriction is the biggest challenge? Or
- 15:17Speaker 1: being told what they're gonna make right before they start
- 15:21Speaker 1: making it. What what do you think is the biggest challenge?
- 15:25Speaker 1: Time restrictions are definitely I think by far the biggest
- 15:28Speaker 1: challenge because a lot of times in the kitchen, when
- 15:31Speaker 1: something goes wrong, you are getting you have enough backup
- 15:34Speaker 1: time to start over again. But when you have a
- 15:37Speaker 1: clock that's sticking and saying you have to put this
- 15:39Speaker 1: in front of me as a dog, but it is
- 15:41Speaker 1: in front of me or you're out right, just that pressure.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Even so, it's the time, it's the pressure of the time,
- 15:49Speaker 1: it's the pressure of the cameras. Of course, I mean
- 15:52Speaker 1: that's a huge that's not a small thing, although they
- 15:55Speaker 1: all handled it incredibly well and they're all like super
- 15:58Speaker 1: charming and adorable. Um, yeah, the time has to be
- 16:02Speaker 1: the thing. I think. The other thing too, is that
- 16:05Speaker 1: sometimes when you think you've got a great idea in
- 16:08Speaker 1: your head and you haven't really executed it before, that
- 16:12Speaker 1: can be a big problem, you know, and watching the show,
- 16:17Speaker 1: you know, and this apologize I cut you off because
- 16:19Speaker 1: I had to thought about because I'm really into this
- 16:22Speaker 1: whole judging because that's the part that scares me, you know,
- 16:26Speaker 1: because I've been invited to come on some of these
- 16:28Speaker 1: shows and I go, sure, you're not that good. You know,
- 16:30Speaker 1: you're gonna get out there and somebody gonna ask you
- 16:32Speaker 1: to make something. Your whole brain is gonna just freeze up.
- 16:35Speaker 1: So I as a as a whole lot of admiration
- 16:38Speaker 1: when I watched either whether they can cook or I
- 16:41Speaker 1: would never go on Iron Chef. You'll never see your
- 16:43Speaker 1: ball And this Muskia level is not even close to that.
- 16:46Speaker 1: That's something else. That's another dimension. They're like aliens to
- 16:48Speaker 1: me when I look at this show their challenges and
- 16:52Speaker 1: that's what And then also you can get cut and
- 16:54Speaker 1: then the least baker gets to go up again as
- 16:57Speaker 1: a master Challenge. That's what I loved about the show
- 16:59Speaker 1: is that it has layers in it, and I think
- 17:02Speaker 1: that would also excite you. Is not just a straight
- 17:05Speaker 1: here's your dessert and wail, but their their their levels
- 17:09Speaker 1: in it. They'll allow you to compete and if you
- 17:11Speaker 1: don't meet the requirements, you still can compete, So you
- 17:15Speaker 1: don't just right, That's exactly and that's what it was
- 17:21Speaker 1: Actually so much fun in that way too, and that
- 17:23Speaker 1: you with Carla would always say, don't think of this
- 17:28Speaker 1: second challenge as kind of that you're being punished. Think
- 17:32Speaker 1: of it as a way to wow this again. Um.
- 17:36Speaker 1: And the great thing too is that the people who
- 17:38Speaker 1: were safe, the bakers who were safe, we're watching and
- 17:42Speaker 1: cheering on the competitors who had to duke it out
- 17:45Speaker 1: to see who was going home. And I think in
- 17:48Speaker 1: that way you learn a lot about everyone and not
- 17:51Speaker 1: just the people who are baking. And and what I
- 17:54Speaker 1: love about it too is that so many of these
- 17:57Speaker 1: shows are just so competitive. There's like there's just an
- 18:00Speaker 1: edge to it. With any hearts. All of them became
- 18:05Speaker 1: such good friends. They helped each other out, they admired
- 18:09Speaker 1: each other's skills. They learned from each other, so everyone
- 18:14Speaker 1: felt terribly when someone had to go home. It wasn't
- 18:19Speaker 1: just the Usually the judges are the ones who were like,
- 18:22Speaker 1: we feel terrible. Everyone was invested in everyone else, and
- 18:26Speaker 1: I think it makes it so special and it makes
- 18:29Speaker 1: the baking so much better. Well, you know the thing
- 18:31Speaker 1: about it, here's what I love about it because I'm
- 18:33Speaker 1: a Southern bar born in Houston, Texas, you know, living
- 18:37Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. So you know, when you started talking
- 18:39Speaker 1: about bacon pie, you talked talking about any type of
- 18:42Speaker 1: there's a peach cobbler, sweep potato pie. That's that's my roots.
- 18:46Speaker 1: But the thing about it is that you're allowing yourself
- 18:48Speaker 1: to go around the country, like when you go down
- 18:49Speaker 1: the Florida's Key Line pie, and then you go to
- 18:52Speaker 1: different parts of the country. That had to be fun.
- 18:54Speaker 1: You know. They just see these different regions which they rule.
- 18:57Speaker 1: They do have signature desserts, they totally do, and there's
- 19:01Speaker 1: some there's some that some of us had never heard
- 19:04Speaker 1: of before, or we were we heard of and we
- 19:06Speaker 1: didn't realize that this was like that state's dessert. Um.
- 19:11Speaker 1: The other thing is that the first last the last episode.
- 19:15Speaker 1: The first challenge was pie cake, and which was that
- 19:18Speaker 1: Derby may Day pie but but baked into a cake.
- 19:23Speaker 1: And if you think about it, at that point we
- 19:25Speaker 1: had all the contests, all the contestants there, we hadn't
- 19:28Speaker 1: eliminated anybody. That means we had to taste ten pieces
- 19:33Speaker 1: of pie cake. We all felt so sick at the
- 19:39Speaker 1: end of that day. It was crazy. We were looking
- 19:43Speaker 1: at each other. We were like, at this point, somebody
- 19:45Speaker 1: has to go home because we can't eat that much.
- 19:49Speaker 1: You know. That's that's that's the that's I guess that's
- 19:52Speaker 1: the the good part of being a judge. The bad
- 19:55Speaker 1: point sometimes it's the sampling because you really have to
- 19:57Speaker 1: sample it to give a good accurate because you don't
- 20:00Speaker 1: really want to like take a little bit and not
- 20:02Speaker 1: really get the full flavor. I'm not one of those
- 20:05Speaker 1: people who's just like nibbling. First of all, it's disrespectful.
- 20:11Speaker 1: The other thing, you you really don't get an idea
- 20:14Speaker 1: of what it is a made and you really should.
- 20:17Speaker 1: You have to take more than one bite because a
- 20:19Speaker 1: lot of times there's a lot of different elements in
- 20:21Speaker 1: a really big like pie cake and has the pie
- 20:24Speaker 1: in the middle and cake everywhere else, and then the
- 20:26Speaker 1: frosting on the ant side. You want to taste all
- 20:29Speaker 1: of it. We all needed alka sultzer and a nap
- 20:34Speaker 1: after that day, but we survived. We survived. There are
- 20:37Speaker 1: a lot worse jobs because everybody's looking to the television
- 20:40Speaker 1: world is looking at you, because you know, if it
- 20:42Speaker 1: looks like you oversample somebody, and then you under sample
- 20:46Speaker 1: somebody and it looks like his favoritism, So you're right,
- 20:50Speaker 1: you have to commit absolutely, and you want to and
- 20:53Speaker 1: you want to really give them every benefit of trying
- 20:57Speaker 1: their dessert. And but that they all, I mean, I
- 21:01Speaker 1: think that was an incredibly tough first challenge because baking
- 21:05Speaker 1: a pie in a cake is just something that since
- 21:09Speaker 1: they are such like elevated pastry chefs, that is such
- 21:12Speaker 1: a not elevated thing. And so some of them were
- 21:16Speaker 1: just frankly horrified that they But it's like, that's the
- 21:20Speaker 1: challenge you gotta drive well, you know the beauty of
- 21:22Speaker 1: this whole scenarios, ten of them. You're part of it
- 21:25Speaker 1: along with Jason. Carla Hall is the host the Best
- 21:28Speaker 1: Baker in America series right now is on the Food Network.
- 21:30Speaker 1: But I want to before I leave, I got to
- 21:32Speaker 1: talk about your class. You know, my goal is to
- 21:35Speaker 1: get back in the class when you start registering for
- 21:38Speaker 1: the class. I know COVID. You know people are getting vaccinated,
- 21:40Speaker 1: so you can probably start registering for your class again. Correct,
- 21:44Speaker 1: we aren't we we don't quite know yet via the
- 21:48Speaker 1: State of Vermont because it's so small are classes and
- 21:51Speaker 1: its hands on so like restaurants are starting to uh
- 21:56Speaker 1: open up again to allow in person dying. But either way,
- 22:00Speaker 1: we're thinking at the end of late summer, early fall,
- 22:04Speaker 1: uh so everything. So I had there's no chance of saying, oh,
- 22:09Speaker 1: we had to shut down again. I just wanted to
- 22:11Speaker 1: be smooth, smooth books. And then we have some makeup
- 22:13Speaker 1: classes too, because we had to shut down the school
- 22:15Speaker 1: and people still were booked for classes. And so I
- 22:19Speaker 1: want to bring all those people in who missed their
- 22:22Speaker 1: class because of COVID, and I just I can't wait
- 22:25Speaker 1: to see them end up getting new ovens for the
- 22:27Speaker 1: for those schools. So what you know, what you know,
- 22:29Speaker 1: it's really different. People have to understand that all oven
- 22:32Speaker 1: can cook differently, heat differently than the new oven. Correct,
- 22:36Speaker 1: getting getting well. I also wanted to have it's a
- 22:39Speaker 1: new technology and these really special events, and I'm like,
- 22:42Speaker 1: I just want I want the experience for all the
- 22:44Speaker 1: students to be the best that it can be. And
- 22:47Speaker 1: this way I'll be able to spend more time with
- 22:49Speaker 1: students in less time looking at the oven and going
- 22:51Speaker 1: what's going on in there? So now before we wrap,
- 22:54Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about what makes that Because
- 22:56Speaker 1: Baked in Vermont is such a popular show and you
- 22:59Speaker 1: cook class which start out your husband inspired, you're looking
- 23:02Speaker 1: at the back of the room. You're not realizing you
- 23:04Speaker 1: had all these gifted natural skills and you go, that's
- 23:06Speaker 1: my wife, She's amazing. And now it's but well, what
- 23:10Speaker 1: exactly goes on when someone attends your cooking classes. Well,
- 23:15Speaker 1: the great thing is that they're small, so I get
- 23:19Speaker 1: to pay attention to everyone a lot, and they're not
- 23:23Speaker 1: that long. There are three hours so that you don't
- 23:25Speaker 1: feel exhausted. Because if you take a really long class
- 23:28Speaker 1: where you're on your feet and you have to like
- 23:30Speaker 1: try out all these new skills with equipment that's not yours,
- 23:34Speaker 1: you can get very tiring. So three hours is the
- 23:37Speaker 1: perfect amount of time. And so the class is usually
- 23:42Speaker 1: just one thing that you want to learn so say
- 23:45Speaker 1: it's Hi, or it's a Claire's, or um, it's a
- 23:50Speaker 1: summer cake. You know, we're just gonna make that one thing,
- 23:53Speaker 1: and you're gonna leave the class with that thing that
- 23:57Speaker 1: you made with your very own hands. Um. And everyone
- 24:01Speaker 1: gets a mixer. Everyone gets to try the equipment, and
- 24:05Speaker 1: you get to learn the tools that you might not
- 24:08Speaker 1: have known about that really help in elevating desserts. Uh.
- 24:12Speaker 1: And after class is over, I tell everybody to go
- 24:16Speaker 1: to King Arthur Flower because their store is right around
- 24:18Speaker 1: the corner, right, but then they go drop a lot
- 24:21Speaker 1: of money on a bunch of a quick well the
- 24:25Speaker 1: amusing things. She's she's a pastry chef. She's a wonderful person.
- 24:29Speaker 1: She's an author you see on TV all the time.
- 24:31Speaker 1: She's a host of a very popular series. But more important,
- 24:33Speaker 1: you can see on Food Networks right now, best baker
- 24:36Speaker 1: in America. She's judging this wonderful file that I just
- 24:40Speaker 1: love seeing. I'm so happy with the last time I
- 24:41Speaker 1: talked to you was on I have my podcast, so
- 24:44Speaker 1: I didn't get to see you. You you have a
- 24:45Speaker 1: radiant smile and you're amazing. Thank you for coming on
- 24:48Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation than you having me. You're great, but
- 24:51Speaker 1: you know I gotta come down, you know, seriously, because
- 24:54Speaker 1: King Arthur. I'm telling you my what. We went to
- 24:56Speaker 1: Seattle for our anniversary and then they have a key
- 24:59Speaker 1: and key was up there and so guess what I
- 25:01Speaker 1: had to do. I had to go to a cooking class,
- 25:03Speaker 1: baking class and King Arthur. So I'm just telling you,
- 25:06Speaker 1: when we go up there, a fan is coming with me.
- 25:09Speaker 1: And when you say at the end of the class,
- 25:11Speaker 1: they're gonna go around the corner and shop at King Arthur,
- 25:14Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna go round the
- 25:16Speaker 1: corner and shop at King Arthur and bring an extra suitcase.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations.
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