Latest / Boxing B-Sides / Ryan Garcia dominates Barrios, Shields sweeps, & Opetaia's Zuffa debut
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- 0:00The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
- 0:04B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
- 0:06The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
- 0:10-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:21Alright. Boxing B -Sides. What? Could have possibly
- 0:28happened before the timer was running. That's
- 0:31for you to find out. Patreon .com. All right.
- 0:39The one and only Saul. Welcome. Welcome back,
- 0:42guys. We were not talking anything about you.
- 0:44Oh, my God. Don't even bring it up. Don't even
- 0:47bring it up. Don't even bring it up, man. Come
- 0:50on. And Josh. I'm going to bring it up. Hello.
- 0:55Let's start with extending the hand of friendship
- 1:00to our buddies over at Ultimate FN Casuals. This
- 1:05week on March 7th, UFC 326. I should probably
- 1:12have checked if this card was updated, but looking
- 1:18at... In the early prelims, a good fight. Sumu
- 1:24Derji versus Jesus Aguilar. Should be a good
- 1:28time. The main portion of the event, I can't
- 1:37say pay -per -view anymore. Rob Font versus Raul
- 1:41Rosas. That should be a good fight. That kid
- 1:46who was in high school, right? He was, yes. When
- 1:50he started. Yeah. Caio Borralo versus Rainier
- 1:55de Ritter. Rainier de Ritter is one of my personal
- 2:00favorites. He moved from the organization 1FC
- 2:05and he moved to UFC. So, I like him for that.
- 2:13Max Holloway versus Charles Oliveira for the...
- 2:19It's not really a title, but it... I don't know.
- 2:23It physically is one. The BMF title. The Mickey
- 2:28Mouse BMF. Yes, yes. So it's... First, it has...
- 2:33It started off as a gimmick and has since taken
- 2:36on a life of its own and is being treated like
- 2:40some kind of seriousness when it's not. But that
- 2:46is on the line. Max Holloway, Charles Oliveira.
- 2:51I think I would say this is a boxing fan friendly
- 2:57fight. Two heavy strikers. Can they grapple?
- 3:03Yes. Do they often grapple? Not really. So it
- 3:09should be fun. I'll say that much. And looking
- 3:15at the preview block, like, fuck. There's not
- 3:18a whole lot else going on. No, there is not.
- 3:22If you are hard up for fights, this is a good
- 3:26one to check out. All right. Into the boxing
- 3:32news. We're starting off. We're going to keep
- 3:38the disappointments rolling. Mark Magsayo goes
- 3:44to the dark side. He signs with Zufa. Disappointing.
- 3:51I like Mark Magsayo. When we were talking about
- 3:55Brandon Figueroa beating Nick Ball to claim a
- 3:59title at featherweight, I had said Mark Magsayo
- 4:04would be the perfect first defense because they
- 4:08had a fight at featherweight previously that
- 4:11had a questionable result. having that rematch
- 4:17would be perfect for Mark because he gets a title
- 4:20fight. And then Brandon gets to, you know, settle
- 4:23the questions. But instead, we got this. Yep,
- 4:30he's got it. I mean, like, you're making your
- 4:34own life choices. Like, that's his own fault.
- 4:38And then watch him in, like, a year or even a
- 4:41couple months be like, oh, why am I not getting
- 4:43any title fights? and the other belts. Why am
- 4:49I not getting a legitimate title fight? Yeah,
- 4:52that's been the common thread between Zufa guys.
- 4:57And it's been a month of this experiment, so
- 5:01I don't know what you guys expected, honestly.
- 5:05Maybe I'm just silly, though. No. This one...
- 5:12Andy Ruiz also signed. This was like a little
- 5:15bit more on the rumor side, but I did see it
- 5:18in multiple places. Andy Ruiz looking like he's
- 5:22going to Zufa. Right now, your only opposition
- 5:26is fucking F .A. at Jogba and Charles Martin.
- 5:31One thing that I could say for Mark McSayo about
- 5:35this is that. At his weight class, there's more
- 5:39competition. So at the very least, he can say,
- 5:44I'm going to a steady stream of fights, like
- 5:49a regular schedule of fights. I guess. If nothing
- 5:52else, he knows that he has a fight coming up.
- 5:56Andy Ruiz is not quite the same. Their heavyweight
- 6:02stable is two people. He's going to fight F .A.
- 6:06Jagua and maybe Jai Opataya. That's it. Right.
- 6:10Just fodder for Opataya when he moves up. Yeah.
- 6:16See, I don't even mind Andy signing with them
- 6:18because it's kind of cool. We don't actually
- 6:21have to... We know you're not serious. Yeah,
- 6:27you're not in title contention anymore. Yeah,
- 6:29we know you're not serious. It's whatever. Andy
- 6:32will at least make money from there. He could
- 6:35be a Zufa champion, whatever. But... MarkMexayo...
- 6:40MarkMexayo could still be... Could still have
- 6:45been competitive. I think. Yeah. At 126 or 130,
- 6:52yes. But now he has to move up to 135. Where
- 6:56he's gonna be undersized. So... Just like everyone
- 7:02else. They're going to look a little soft. Like
- 7:06a Bo Hachuk looks soft. Callum Walsh looked soft.
- 7:11These alleged weight classes, oh yeah. Yeah,
- 7:14because they're having to move up X amount of
- 7:16pounds. Last Zufa signing, Connor Benn. Signs
- 7:27with Zufa. This one is pretty hilarious. One
- 7:29fight deal. Worth eight figures somewhere. I've
- 7:33heard 10 to $15 million for the one fight. This
- 7:42is pretty hilarious. It's like, what are you
- 7:43doing, man? You've just soured the only promoter
- 7:45who actually wants you. Like your relationship
- 7:48with the only guy who wants you. Yeah. You want
- 7:51you because the relationship with the father
- 7:52said to turn your back on someone that supports
- 7:57you when you were at your lowest. built up their
- 8:00entire career, man. Like, I'm not saying there
- 8:03should be, like, loyalties owed. Exactly. I feel
- 8:07like this is a unique case where, like, this
- 8:10is the only guy who wants him. Like, Matchroom's
- 8:12the only guy who wants him long -term. Like,
- 8:15let's be real. This is going to be a one -off
- 8:16against Callum Walsh, and that's it. I got a
- 8:21theory about this, and I'm not going to lie.
- 8:24It's a weird theory, but it just might be real.
- 8:28What if Dana paid Connor Ben 10 to 15 million?
- 8:33And Eddie Hearns is saying, yeah, yeah, you took
- 8:36my guy, but they're wasting money on someone
- 8:38like Connor Ben just to spy Eddie, right? I'm
- 8:40pretty sure it's just to spy Eddie, by the way.
- 8:42Oh, probably. And I feel like Connor Ben is going
- 8:46to go back to Eddie afterwards. Just to take
- 8:49that money from the Saudis. I feel like he would
- 8:52go back to Eddie, and Eddie's going to take him
- 8:53back with open arms. I mean, that's just a theory.
- 8:57Either way, it's still kind of scummy what he
- 8:59did. Again, I agree with Josh. There should be
- 9:02no loyalty in boxing, but this is a special case
- 9:04where, I mean, this guy supported you when you
- 9:07were at your lowest. No one wanted you. No one
- 9:10wanted to even put you in a fight. And Eddie
- 9:13gave you two of your biggest paydays. I'm going
- 9:17to say, it's not even like he's a name, like
- 9:19a superstar that's worth going through this trouble
- 9:21for. Oh, yeah. They say he's super strong because
- 9:25of you being that those fights are big. Oh, yeah.
- 9:30And her name, good promotion. Like, again, I
- 9:33hate giving Pern his props because, like, he
- 9:35doesn't often deserve them. But with Ben, like,
- 9:37come on. When Ben had, when he, like, pissed
- 9:42hot for overeating eggs or whatever it was. Yes.
- 9:48That's what it was. Pern put on fights in the
- 9:52U .S. like on Sunday mornings so that they would
- 9:55be at UK, like a prime time. If he's made like
- 10:00no money too. He lost money on those fucking
- 10:02events, but he still put them on to have Connor
- 10:05been busy and working. So that, that is one situation
- 10:11to me where like if, if Eddie has not demonstrated
- 10:16that he's willing to take care of you at this
- 10:20point, if you don't feel that way, I don't know
- 10:23what else he can do. Yeah, well, like, I don't
- 10:27know, man. I think even the case is when he started
- 10:29giving, like, Tevin Farmer, like, a million billion.
- 10:32Andre, or Demetrius Andre. Andre and Tevin Farmer
- 10:36were very well taken care of this fight. Probably,
- 10:38like, you know, I wrote an article a while back
- 10:41how, like, okay, I understand that fighters should
- 10:44get paid what they're worth, but they should
- 10:46be getting paid what they're worth, not exorbitantly
- 10:50more. And ruin the market. Like, Eddie totally
- 10:54contributed to that, but I will not fault him
- 10:57as a person for taking care of these guys. You
- 11:01know? Another situation that I think Connor Ben
- 11:05could have looked at was the situation with Bam.
- 11:10Where Bam's contract ended, Zufa tried to court
- 11:15him, and... And Bam, to his credit, I think,
- 11:20he brought it back to Eddie and said, hey, this
- 11:24is what Zufa's offering me. What can you do with
- 11:26this? And Eddie said, I will beat that. I'll
- 11:31do better than that. And Bam, like we had talked
- 11:36about, at that point in the negotiation, still
- 11:39had time to shop with other promoters. And he's
- 11:43still going back to Matchroom. Clearly, Mashroom
- 11:46is fucking taking care of their people. Yeah.
- 11:49So, whatever... Connor, Ben, man, like, if you
- 11:54want to get the bag, get the bag, dude. I'm not...
- 11:56Nobody can fault you for that. I sincerely doubt
- 12:02that Eddie would have gotten you 15 mil for one
- 12:05fight. Oh, fuck no. But... Maybe against, like,
- 12:10Boots? Maybe? Maybe. That's a big maybe. But
- 12:16I suppose one thing that Shanada has said that
- 12:20I kind of like is I hope that these guys go sign
- 12:24big contracts and then leave. So here's Connor
- 12:30Ben taking 15 mil out of the coffers and then
- 12:34leaves. And there's Zufa short 15 mil. If that
- 12:40hastens their demise, then cool. Oh, yeah. Let's
- 12:46see here. Manny Pacquiao Promotions wins Angelo
- 12:51Leo's first defense. They win the purse bid.
- 12:56Rais Alim, the number one contender, will be
- 13:01getting the hometown fight instead of Probox
- 13:06winning Angelo Leo's defense. And they would
- 13:10have put it on in Albuquerque for... Angelo to
- 13:15have a hometown fight. But yeah, Manny Pacquiao
- 13:21Promotions is making moves. Something I'm curious
- 13:25about is to this point, all we've really seen
- 13:31out of Manny Pacquiao Promotions is lower level
- 13:37stuff like four rounders, debutants, six rounds.
- 13:42But now they're making bids on world title fights.
- 13:48I'm curious where the... The money's coming from?
- 13:52Yeah, where's that capital coming from? From
- 13:54the Filipino economy? Yeah, Sean Gibbons fucking
- 13:58cashing, putting up the cash. It would make sense
- 14:03if the... For the cards that MP has put on before...
- 14:12that have been in the philippines like i was
- 14:14saying with like the debutantes and stuff it
- 14:17would make sense for like the for the philippine
- 14:20government to kind of have a hand in that and
- 14:23say like oh yeah put on a card for us but this
- 14:29one is like what where is this coming from um
- 14:34moving on callum smith versus david morel is
- 14:41official April 18th in Liverpool. That's going
- 14:47to be a great fight. Yes. That's going to be
- 14:50a fun one. I don't think Smith has gotten in
- 14:53for a second to beat Morrell, but it's going
- 14:56to be fun. Maybe not beat him, but to survive
- 14:59in there with him and trade? Oh, Lord. He's going
- 15:02to go to war. That would be a mistake. They're
- 15:04going to go to war. Smith demonstrably cannot
- 15:08box on his back foot. And Smith would absolutely
- 15:11go to war. Yeah, you're right. I gotta say that
- 15:16Smith's probably one of, if not the most exciting
- 15:19British fighter out there right now. Obviously,
- 15:23he's not the best fighter, but man, he will put
- 15:25up a fight. You know? I think that once he fights
- 15:29Morel, Morel doesn't back down either as much
- 15:31as other fighters, but if Smith keeps pushing,
- 15:37if Smith pushes the initiative to you know, maybe
- 15:40put a hurtin' on Morel, he might knock him out.
- 15:43I know that sounds crazy to say. I know that
- 15:46sounds crazy to say. But Morel got knocked down
- 15:48his last fight. And the fight with Benavidez,
- 15:51he got outworked. Katayev doesn't count, dude.
- 15:56I get it. I get it. The living P .E .D. Katayev?
- 15:59Yeah, I was gonna say, like, he is Balko, bro.
- 16:03Like, that doesn't count. But the thing is...
- 16:06He didn't lose that. He didn't get close to losing
- 16:08that fight because the guy was on PEDs. Not just
- 16:11because of that. He lost because he was not fighting
- 16:15the right fight. He was kind of goofing off.
- 16:18Exactly. He was goofing off. Goofing off in that
- 16:20fight. He kind of goofed off in the Benavidez
- 16:23fight just a little bit. I mean, I think against
- 16:25Smith, Smith is, whether you guys like it or
- 16:28not, a top 10 guy at 175. You're right. You're
- 16:32right. So if he puts Beltas to Morel, he might
- 16:37just fucking win. You think he's got to, like,
- 16:41exert the pressure and keep Morel on his back
- 16:43foot? I genuinely think he's going to put Morel
- 16:46on the back foot. Morel's going to be dancing
- 16:48on the back foot, and he should be fighting on
- 16:50the back foot anyways. But knowing Morel in the
- 16:54past couple fights, he's been the one to push
- 16:57the fight. He was usually the pressure guy. That
- 17:00was, like, his big deal. That's what made him
- 17:03so fun to watch. Well, he was a pressure guy,
- 17:06but it was a different type of pressure. It wasn't
- 17:07so much like a Pitbull -Cruz pressure or even
- 17:10a David Benavidez pressure. It was more like
- 17:12a pick -your -shots type of pressure. At least
- 17:20that's how I see it. Not so much like a relentless
- 17:23barrage of punches. But even in other fights,
- 17:29he's been on the back foot. And I think he should
- 17:32be against Cal Smith. Because the only guy who's
- 17:38been able to knock Cal Smith out was Betterbeef.
- 17:41Canelo fought Cal Smith, couldn't knock him out.
- 17:43Who else fought? It was Cal Smith lost to Canelo,
- 17:49Betterbeef. And John Ryder. And John Ryder. He
- 17:53watched the fight. He didn't lose to him. He
- 17:57didn't, not on paper. And honestly, with Kyle
- 18:03Smith and Bwatsi, as much as we don't see Bwatsi
- 18:07as how we saw him before, Bwatsi still put up
- 18:10a great fight against Kyle Smith. Couldn't knock
- 18:14him out. He had him close, but I don't know.
- 18:18Who'd say that Kyle Smith can't out -pressure
- 18:22David Murrell? I mean, the British have had a
- 18:24good year so far. I can't not expect an upset
- 18:27like that. Now, this would be... I was thinking
- 18:33that this is the point where the UFC guy, Paddy
- 18:40Pimblitt, he's another Liverpool fighter, combat
- 18:44sports guy. And he says, scousers don't get knocked
- 18:48out. But then we saw what happened to fucking
- 18:50Nick Ball. Has the Liverpool chin been cracked?
- 18:56Is David Morel going to fucking... If he can
- 19:00be a little extra spicy. That'd be crazy. Like,
- 19:04I'd be off my seat watching Morel ice a guy just
- 19:08clean. I mean, Morel, I'll be honest, dude. Morel
- 19:12hasn't knocked out an elite. Not elite, but he
- 19:16hasn't really put a lot of a hurt on a top 10
- 19:23guy. On a top 10 guy? No. No, not particularly.
- 19:32I think Smith is just very hittable. Tail end
- 19:36of his career, too. If we really, really want
- 19:40to downplay Morrell, we can say that at worst,
- 19:45he's a bigger, stronger, better John Ryder. I'm
- 19:51not going to go that far and say that he's a
- 19:53bigger, stronger John Ryder. I just think that...
- 19:55If we're downplaying... Morel to the, like, extreme.
- 20:00I'm not trying to downplay Morel. I'm just saying
- 20:02that from what I've seen, he hasn't been put
- 20:04against... I'm not saying he's not an elite fighter.
- 20:07He's a pretty great fighter for what I've seen
- 20:09so far. But also from what I've seen, he got
- 20:12put on his behind by fucking Kataev. Benavidez
- 20:17put a hurtin' on him. And Hot Rod, you know?
- 20:21I mean, say what you want, but Hot Rod... Hard
- 20:23work. Yeah, give him hard work. That's Hot Rod.
- 20:27God bless Hot Rod for the record. Yeah, Hot Rod
- 20:31put a hurt on Gavazdic. I mean, come on. He's
- 20:34a decent guy. He's a great guy from what I've
- 20:38seen, but he's also kind of untested at, not
- 20:42the elite level, but like at the contender level,
- 20:44if you want to say that, you know? At the contender
- 20:47level, he's at very, very mixed. He's a very
- 20:50mixed bag. Hot take of the week. Moreau wins,
- 20:57then that puts him back in contention for a title.
- 21:01But if he doesn't win, or if he looks bad, I
- 21:05think that people are going to start calling
- 21:06him a fraud. As if they aren't already calling
- 21:09him a fraud. My only thing is that Callum Smith,
- 21:13to this point, his mileage is more than... like
- 21:24it's higher than the his number of fights would
- 21:28indicate and the the british style of fighting
- 21:34um the like the stereo i think callum smith does
- 21:39sort of fit the bill of the stereotypical brit
- 21:42um yeah somewhat he he goes to war and i don't
- 21:48think going to war with David Morrell at this
- 21:50stage of your career is a really good idea. That's,
- 21:55that's really it for me is that Callum Smith,
- 21:57like if this was five plus years ago, like, fuck
- 22:02yeah, this is an amazing fight. But right now,
- 22:04Callum Smith, I think he's on his like farewell
- 22:08tour and David Morrell is going to be the one
- 22:12to cash the biggest amount out of it. So let
- 22:17me ask you guys. If Calvin Smith wins, he gets
- 22:19the WBO Mando, right? He becomes the interim.
- 22:26I know that's for a trinket. He becomes the interim
- 22:29champion, okay? At that point, he's kind of on
- 22:33the way back up if he beats David Murrell. If
- 22:36he beats David Murrell, that shows that he still
- 22:41has a lot of life left in him. And honestly,
- 22:44if he beats David Murrell, I mean... What you
- 22:46said is a great point because at the same time,
- 22:48he's an exciting fighter, but he's not like David
- 22:53Benavidez level. If he beats David Morel, what
- 22:56do you guys think about – how do you think that
- 22:59would alter the look on David Benavidez's career?
- 23:02Because Benavidez's best fight was with Morel.
- 23:05Well, he's about to fight Zerdo, so we're going
- 23:07to see then. Yeah, we'll see then. I understand.
- 23:10Yeah, like Zerdo I feel like is a better picture
- 23:14of where he's at right now. And I hope he wins,
- 23:18but that's another story for another day. Actually,
- 23:20that's the story for today, actually. Yeah, it's
- 23:22the story for right now. Fucking segue into Benevita
- 23:26Zerto. Fuck it. Last, just last picks. Callum
- 23:33Smith versus David Morrell. Who are you taking?
- 23:36Like, your money's on the table. Who are you
- 23:38taking? Oh, I got Morrell. I got Morrell, too.
- 23:42I would say Morrell, but honestly... I might
- 23:46just, it might be a toss -up for me. I mean,
- 23:48that sounds crazy, but I feel like Calvin Smith
- 23:50does have a chance to put Belta as to Morel.
- 23:53I'm still going to choose Morel, but I really
- 23:56don't have as much faith as I did in Morel compared
- 23:59to what I did when he was first coming up before
- 24:01the Hot Rod fight, even before the David Benavidez
- 24:03fight. Even before Katia, I still had a lot of
- 24:06trust, I had a lot of faith in him. Now, he does
- 24:09have a new trainer, I believe, right? In Ismael
- 24:12Salas? Yeah, so we'll see how that is. I was
- 24:17thinking Barroso, but... I know. I was about
- 24:21to say that. I was thinking Barroso for a second.
- 24:24No, but, I mean, we'll see how he is with that
- 24:26new trainer, so we'll never know until we see
- 24:28him fight in the ring again. So I got David Morrell,
- 24:31too, but I'm not opposed to a Smith win as well.
- 24:38Also, considering it's a matchroom card as well...
- 24:40You would hedge your bet and... Put a little
- 24:42small amount on Callum Smith. Exactly, yeah.
- 24:46It's a match from cards. So if it goes to the
- 24:49cards, then who knows what kind of fucker. It
- 24:52might be stinky. Yeah. Yeah, it could be smelly.
- 24:56Just like Rick. Last question on this fight.
- 25:02Robbie, who you know from Discord, he lives in
- 25:07Liverpool. The question has come up. Should he
- 25:12go to Fabio Wardley versus Daniel Dubois? Or
- 25:17should he go to Callum Smith versus David Moreau?
- 25:19Well, Fabio Wardley, Daniel Dubois is going to
- 25:21be gangbusters. Is that even a question? Yeah.
- 25:24Is it? That one's straight up going to be gangbusters.
- 25:28Those two guys have no defense. Two, I don't
- 25:32know if I sound crazy, but two prime heavyweight
- 25:35knockout punchers. With no defense. They got
- 25:39no defense and they're all hard. Can I say something?
- 25:42This might sound controversial, but I genuinely
- 25:45feel like this might be a George Foreman, Ron
- 25:47Lyle type fight. Oh, yeah. It's going to be gangbusters.
- 25:50It's going to be so fucking fun. Assuming Dubois
- 25:53doesn't, like, fold at the adversity, which I
- 25:57really don't think he will, it's going to be
- 25:59fabulous. I don't think so. I think Dubois has
- 26:01found his heart. He's fucking built for the big
- 26:05show now. I would love to see him again, you
- 26:09know? He lost to Usyk, who is a generational
- 26:11talent. That is no shame. No shame whatsoever.
- 26:15The one thing for... The one thing was about
- 26:22Callum Smith, David Morrell, is when will a guy
- 26:28like David Morrell be in your hometown again?
- 26:33That's true. But when are you ever going to experience
- 26:36Fabio Wardley versus... Heavyweight title fight,
- 26:40baby. Like, damn, dude. No, but like, it's not
- 26:43just like a heavyweight title fight, like a standard
- 26:46defense or like, like this fight is genuinely
- 26:49like, I've like, I've never seen such a fight
- 26:53like gangbusters in my life. The battle for Britain.
- 26:56Like, like it's so obviously like, like again,
- 27:01like it's going to be all heart, all power. Like,
- 27:06oh my god. Not going to the cards. No, not in
- 27:10the slightest. And if it does, it's like the
- 27:14easiest fight of the year ever if it somehow
- 27:17goes to the cards. Alright, so moving on to Benavidez
- 27:22vs. Zerto at Cruiserweight. Interesting choice
- 27:27for Benavidez. Part of me thinks... He doesn't
- 27:33want to have to cut for a fight right now. It's...
- 27:39Zerto's easy enough. Right. Yeah, Zerto's an
- 27:42easy enough win. Or, not win, necessarily, but...
- 27:46It's an easy enough fight to take at a higher
- 27:49weight class without being worried about adjusting
- 27:53to the power or anything. I honestly don't...
- 28:01I think that Zerto, or not Zerto, Benavidez will
- 28:06adjust fine to Cruiser, and he's going to be
- 28:12too much for Zerto the whole time. I don't see
- 28:17this going well for Ramirez at all. I have a
- 28:25bit of an interesting opinion about this fight
- 28:27as well, honestly. Fire away. I'm going to say
- 28:31this first and foremost. I think Dave Benavidez
- 28:33is going to beat Zerto. 100%. No doubt about
- 28:36it. However, I do believe that this has the potential
- 28:41to be a disaster for David as well. Absolutely.
- 28:47In the sense that... Oh, yeah. Everything can
- 28:49go sideways so fast. 100%. If the size catches
- 28:53up to Benavidez. 100 % because... Zerto, I'm
- 28:58going to say this. You looked at both men. Did
- 28:59you guys see that press conference? You guys
- 29:03saw that, right? Zerto with the bloody shorts?
- 29:06Or no, Benavidez with the bloody shorts. Yeah,
- 29:09and then Zerto, the initial fight press conference,
- 29:13and they did the face -off. Dude, Zerto is a
- 29:16fucking heavyweight. He is huge. And I know that...
- 29:21He's fat as fuck, though. It's not like he's
- 29:24in super shape. No, like, Ben, let's be real.
- 29:29B -Ball, like, you saw the B -Ball fight. Like,
- 29:32oh my god. Zerto's huge, but like, he's not...
- 29:37He's not in a position to punch back when he
- 29:41gets hit. Just because he's not that athletic.
- 29:45Fast hands are going to be a problem for Fatboy.
- 29:48Yeah, like, fast hands are generally... Because,
- 29:50like, even... You don't need, like, that much
- 29:54movement to route Zerdo, to be honest. You just
- 29:57need to hit him quick enough because he can't
- 30:00return fire. And I agree with you. The thing
- 30:03is that if Benavidez... If his speed doesn't
- 30:07carry up to Cruiserweight, if his power doesn't
- 30:10carry up to Cruiserweight... I don't think the
- 30:12power needs to carry. I think the speed will
- 30:15carry, but the power won't. You can break a two
- 30:17-by -four over Zerto's head, and it probably
- 30:19wouldn't dent him. I was about to say that, too.
- 30:23You need Zerto to respect you. Zerto is a durable
- 30:27fighter. He may not be fast, he may not be the
- 30:29hardest puncher, but he is a durable fighter.
- 30:31And if Benavidez punches himself out, that's
- 30:35Zerto's opportunity to come back and fucking
- 30:38beat the shit out of him. I will say... Bivol
- 30:42definitely punches softer than Benavidez and
- 30:45still managed to keep him on the end of it. And
- 30:49it's not that... Benavidez will probably keep
- 30:54his gas a little better since he's not cutting.
- 30:58I agree. Cruiserweight is probably his natural
- 31:01weight, if we really think about it. I agree.
- 31:05No cutting weight, yes. Zerto is having to cut
- 31:11down to Kruiser. I'm just raising the concerns
- 31:15of what could happen if Benavidez, if his speed
- 31:19and his stamina and his power doesn't really
- 31:21carry up. And if he kind of not drops the ball,
- 31:25but I would say doesn't take it seriously. I
- 31:32feel like he's going to take it serious, but
- 31:34the off chance he doesn't, he thinks it's going
- 31:35to be an easy shot at a title. Or two titles.
- 31:39I don't know. It might just be a fucking rough
- 31:43night for him. That can go south very quickly.
- 31:46I think Dave Venavita's wins are in a pretty
- 31:49wide decision. Yeah, pretty handily. Yeah, pretty
- 31:53handily, but he needs to be on his shit. He needs
- 31:56to be very focused. Very disciplined. One thing
- 32:03that... man like you you have me wanting to kind
- 32:08of think against who i who i'm backing because
- 32:12david benavidez the benavidez boys the whole
- 32:15fucking clan they're from my city so like i'm
- 32:18there is no you gotta you gotta back them there's
- 32:21no no fucking chance in hell that i'm backing
- 32:23fucking zerto over benavidez there's no question
- 32:26about it but what i do wonder is when Benavides
- 32:31moved up from super middle to light heavy, and
- 32:34he fought Vostok. His power very clearly did
- 32:38not carry in that fight. And now you're talking
- 32:43about adding another 25 pounds on top of that.
- 32:48It presents some concerns. My saving grace here
- 32:56is I physically watched. Zerto get knocked, fucking
- 33:02laid on his back by Jesse Hart. This was at a
- 33:06lighter weight class, yes, but nonetheless, like,
- 33:11if a dude like Jesse Hart's putting you on your
- 33:13back, then... Oh, yeah. Like, I'm not saying
- 33:17it's going to be, like, an accumulation thing.
- 33:19I'm saying, like, Zerto is slow enough for Benavidez
- 33:23to be able to find, like, the shot he did with
- 33:25Andre as an example. But will Benavidez be fast
- 33:30enough to get that shot in the first place? Yeah.
- 33:32I think so. I think Benavidez will retain his
- 33:37speed while Zerto being super fucking slow. Yeah.
- 33:42And, I mean, at the same time, you guys see that
- 33:43Zerto got knocked out, put on his fucking back
- 33:47by Jesse Hart. Benavidez was also put on his
- 33:50ass, too. I mean, again, it was a... It was an
- 33:53off -balance flash knockdown with... No, not
- 33:56against Morel. Not against Morel. Talk about
- 33:59Gabriel. Gabriel, yeah. Is that the one where
- 34:02he had the flu? Yeah, but that was a flash knockdown
- 34:03off a jab. Like, the Morel one carries more weight.
- 34:07Yeah, the Morel one's fine, but... The Gabriel,
- 34:11it was a flash knock. He was still upon his butt.
- 34:14Either way. Off -balance by a well -timed jab,
- 34:17which is something that... I don't think Zerto...
- 34:21He can't jump. Zerto is not good at firing back.
- 34:25He is good at asserting himself. Like, he fought
- 34:29Joe Smith Jr., right? That fight? The main thing
- 34:32was he asserted himself over Joe Smith Jr. And
- 34:37that's how he got his traffic going. But if you
- 34:40see, if you just keep beating him to the punch,
- 34:42he has no answer. Yeah, I agree. And we've seen
- 34:48it happen. Like, I'm not saying you have to be,
- 34:54like, b -ball level. I'm just saying, like, Benavidez
- 34:58is pretty damn close, too, so. No, I agree. He's,
- 35:03like, fucking elite in his own way. It's a little
- 35:07different from Soviet style. One thing about
- 35:11Benavidez is that he has fantastic defense. I
- 35:14would say very underrated defense. For how much
- 35:17his hands move? Yeah, dude. His defense is fucking
- 35:21solid. Utilizing a cross guard with a high guard?
- 35:25Yeah, fucking amazing. Let's keep rolling here.
- 35:31It's a little bit of small news throughout. Rising
- 35:37Star Promotions will be hosting Brick City Fight
- 35:40Night, broadcasted by ProBox TV. I'm just happy
- 35:46to see Pro Box getting more fucking air time.
- 35:50And if Rising Star, their leadership is Cornflake
- 35:57LaManna, I think his name is. If they let the
- 36:04Pro Box matchmakers have a little bit of work
- 36:07in here, then this is going to be an excellent
- 36:09card. Karen Chukudzian will be fighting Patty
- 36:19Donovan for an IBF eliminator at welterweight.
- 36:24Holy shit. The world has been waiting. Jesus.
- 36:34Carlos Adamas versus Amma Williams has been rescheduled.
- 36:39This will be in Orlando on a matchroom card March
- 36:4321st. So Ammo gets his title shot. Adamas gets
- 36:51to fight. Yeah, he gets to kick the can down
- 36:54the road of like, is he a legitimate champion
- 36:57or not? Yeah. Let's see here. Last one before
- 37:06we get to kind of big news. Troy Isley, the one
- 37:11and only. signs a multi -fight deal with Matchroom.
- 37:15Dude, if Top Rank's not paying you, they're not
- 37:19getting you work, then get after it, buddy. Troy
- 37:23Isley is kind of like a Zufa -level dude, to
- 37:28be honest. Oh, that's a rough goings. It is a
- 37:33rough designation. And I genuinely like Troy
- 37:38Isley. I really do. I really, really do. I like
- 37:41him more than most people, even though he exists.
- 37:46But, last thing. Teofimo is officially moving
- 37:53up to Welterweight. I brought this one up because
- 37:58of the card we're going to be recapping in a
- 38:00moment. My first gut reaction is that Teofimo
- 38:07is undersized. Oh yeah, his power did not carry
- 38:11to 140 at all. Exactly. That's exactly what I
- 38:14was going to say. Moving up to 140, he already
- 38:18had troubles there. And now he's expecting to
- 38:21solve his problems moving up a little bit higher.
- 38:24My man, the problem is in your fucking corner.
- 38:28I don't know how else to say it. Your father
- 38:34is the fucking problem. That's all I got. Joey
- 38:43Gamache gets vindicated every damn day that Teofimo
- 38:49walks this planet. Unbelievable. I think we've
- 38:58litigated the Teofimo Sr. slander enough at this
- 39:04point oh yeah like i've said the name joey gamache
- 39:06too many times you're right like who i don't
- 39:10i don't know i don't know what more signs you
- 39:12need that that just hit him bro just hit him
- 39:16bro that's the man what the fuck happened to
- 39:18your power you're gonna hate yourself in the
- 39:21morning bro it's like bro like straight up there
- 39:25are discord users who would do a better job Yeah.
- 39:29Honestly, Josh, I would trust you and Teofimo's
- 39:32Corner more than fucking... You know what? Hit
- 39:36me up. Hit us up. Hit us up. I'll fly out to...
- 39:41Teo, I know you're listening. We got new coaches
- 39:45lined up for you, buddy. Yeah. I'll bring...
- 39:48I got Isaac D's on nutrition. I'll bring the
- 39:56liquor. I'll bring the liquor. You're in good
- 40:00hands, man. At the very least, you won't be embarrassing
- 40:03yourself against Steve Claggett. Or Sandro Martin.
- 40:08Or taking like a million years to knock out Ocampo.
- 40:13And Jermaine Ortiz. Yeah, we're gonna... We're
- 40:18gonna sort your career out, buddy. We got this.
- 40:21We're gonna put you on the Anthony Kakash. career
- 40:25management path, you're only fighting Brits until
- 40:27the end of your days. That's the career rehab
- 40:31is we're going to have you fighting Brits. You're
- 40:33going to be Anthony Kakachi. You're changing
- 40:35your name to Knockout Lux Media. We got you.
- 40:45Alright, that's all we got for the news though.
- 40:48Any fucking say Old military phrase. Save rounds.
- 40:55Any last -minute things that came up that I didn't?
- 40:58Did we talk about Inoue Nakatani being signed?
- 41:03Because last week we talked about Floyd. We briefly
- 41:08mentioned it, but we haven't talked about it
- 41:12at length. Yeah, so... It's just in. How literally
- 41:16is this just in? Naoya Inoue versus Junto Nakatani
- 41:20is... is legit fucking official for may 2nd at
- 41:26the tokyo dome i met i know i mentioned it earlier
- 41:29today um or last time i don't um whatever we're
- 41:33talking about it now yeah this has we're gonna
- 41:37talk about it a lot this yeah dude um i what
- 41:41i'm excited about is what what they're gonna
- 41:46do I know this is super degenerate shit, but
- 41:50I'm really interested in what they're going to
- 41:51do with the undercard here. Because they have
- 41:54a guaranteed viewership worldwide here. Oh yeah,
- 42:00this is a super fight. So what are they going
- 42:02to do? Who are you going to put on? Are they
- 42:04going to put on fucking Reito Tsutsumi? Or who
- 42:07is that other fucking club? Don't say that name.
- 42:10Hayato? I feel like they're going to put on...
- 42:11Anyways, brother. Don't say that fucking name.
- 42:13For sure. Takuma. Takuma makes sense. They might
- 42:19put on Hayato. The Tsutsumi pros are... I don't
- 42:26know. Hirooka could bounce back on that. Jin
- 42:31Sasaki, if he's not fighting already, can definitely
- 42:35make for a fun undercard scrap. Uh, fuck. We
- 42:41literally just talked about him last week. Why
- 42:43is his name eluding me? Nishida? Uh, Nishida.
- 42:48Ryusuke Nishida. Ryusuke Nishida. Yeah, it's
- 42:50a perfect gap. He fought February, fighting in
- 42:52May. Yeah, that's not a bad shout. Not a bad
- 42:57shout. I gotta say, it's an honor to talk about
- 43:00this before Shinata's able to talk about it on
- 43:03the podcast. You're real as fuck. You're real
- 43:07as fuck. Let's fucking go. We're the first to
- 43:11announce it. I'm the first boxing podcast to
- 43:15announce it, honestly. Might be first on the
- 43:17boat here. We're the best boxing podcast to announce
- 43:20it, and that's what matters. And it's not even
- 43:22close. Would you put... He is... Even though,
- 43:28as Shonan would say, and I would agree, he's
- 43:32like a fucking douchebag, but Tenshin Asakawa
- 43:34is a fucking pay -per -view star. You got to
- 43:37put all the names you can on this undercard.
- 43:40This is your Super Bowl. I got to say about the
- 43:46Super Bowl, honestly, I feel like they should
- 43:47put a lot of prospects on here, too. A lot of
- 43:50up -and -coming. You can stack prelims, too.
- 43:54You're right. This is the Mayweather and Pacquiao
- 44:00fight of the Asian territories. Mainly Japan,
- 44:05but obviously over there, I feel like a lot of
- 44:07the regions over there are going to watch it.
- 44:09And I generally think that if you do what they
- 44:13did with Mayweather Pacquiao, you can make a
- 44:17lot of stars in the Japanese scene. Well, what
- 44:21they did with Mayweather Pacquiao was they had
- 44:24fucking Lomachenko fight a nobody, and then they
- 44:28had Leo Santa Cruz fight a nobody. Just to make
- 44:34sure that the guy that they want to highlight
- 44:36gets a win. You know what I mean? It would, because
- 44:40honestly, those are the fights that I remember,
- 44:43some of the fights I remember most from their
- 44:44career. Or on the card. If that's the case, then
- 44:50I would imagine they would, I bet, I would bet
- 44:55a lot that they have Takuma in a way on this
- 44:59as well. Oh yeah, 100%. You gotta have the brother
- 45:03on there. I told my pops and I told my girlfriend,
- 45:06I said, hey, we're gonna be watching this fight
- 45:08at 3 in the fucking morning. Yeah. We're gonna
- 45:12be watching it. I'm getting, I think everybody
- 45:17in the boxing pod, like in the boxing discord
- 45:19should get up for this. This is a Super Bowl.
- 45:21This is an at everyone level fight. This is literally
- 45:26like for casuals. This is on the level of Dave
- 45:35Allen. Who's going to be streaming the fight?
- 45:37It's not talking. It's StreamEast. Sorry, sorry.
- 45:44Maybe I'm not allowed to say that. That was a
- 45:46joke. I think it said the StreamBeast of Netflix,
- 45:52right? I'm certain that somebody will oblige.
- 45:58The thing is that there's no way it's not on...
- 46:02It's not going to be a Saudi car, right? Someone
- 46:05has to pick it up, yeah. There's no way this
- 46:08is not a Saudi car, or there's no way this is
- 46:09a Saudi car, right? I don't think so. I haven't
- 46:13seen anything indicating that it's aligned with
- 46:17the ring yet. It's crazy because it's on a Saturday
- 46:23morning, not a Sunday morning. It's Saturday
- 46:26night for them. Saturday night. I thought they
- 46:32said it was on May 2nd. May 2nd is Saturday,
- 46:35right? It's Saturday night for them. For us,
- 46:39it's like Saturday morning. Yeah, early as shit.
- 46:42I think I'm just going to pull an all -nighter,
- 46:45honestly. Because don't they usually have their
- 46:49fights on Monday? They usually have theirs on
- 46:53Mondays, like bank holidays, whatever they're
- 46:57called. But yeah, Mondays that they have off,
- 47:01they usually put them on then. Well, I'm excited
- 47:04for that day because I got to wake up early,
- 47:06watch Inoue Nakatani, sleep on it, and then go
- 47:09watch fucking Benavida Zero. I love that shit.
- 47:14I love this sport. 2026 is looking to be fucking
- 47:16amazing, dude. First half is fucking awesome.
- 47:23Has been so far. Yeah. All right. Anything more
- 47:28for the news? One more thing. Have we ever talked
- 47:32about Jizora and Beyonce Wilder? Oh, Jesus, man.
- 47:34You went from Nakatane to Jizora Wilder. Yeah,
- 47:40one's a super fighter and one's a Japanese box.
- 47:47What I can really say about... Chizora Wilder
- 47:53Wilder Chizora, fucking excuse me. That's how
- 47:55the hashtag is going to go. You will find me
- 48:02dead before I'm going to cheer for a goddamn
- 48:05Brit over red, white, and blue missile fucking
- 48:10system Deontay Wilder. That's true. This is a
- 48:15battle of the boxing laundry three. Is he really
- 48:19going to win? Fucking probably not. Chizora has
- 48:23more experience being washed at this point. Wilder's
- 48:30still kind of trying to do the same thing, and
- 48:34it's just not working anymore. But goddammit,
- 48:38I'm riding to the fucking depths. I'm riding
- 48:43with Wilder. Guaranteed, if Wilder beats Chizora,
- 48:48he gets an AJ fight. Oh, please. At this point,
- 48:54it just has to happen at this point. AJ fight
- 48:58or even fucking Usyk. The Chizora train going
- 49:05on forever is also really funny. Okay, now have
- 49:10we hit all the news? I believe so. Okay. Well,
- 49:15it's okay that we went a little extra because
- 49:17the previews are fucking dire. Oh, yeah. Social
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- 51:43slash flakes. Okay. Into the recaps. First things
- 51:52first. Thursday, February 19th. Ohashi Promotions
- 51:58at Korakuen Hall in Tokyo. This was quite a step
- 52:06down from his previous outing. Jin Sasaki gets
- 52:10a stoppage in two over Marlon Bagalpalan. Practice
- 52:18that one. Jin was very clearly behind a step.
- 52:25Was shelled up for the majority of the time.
- 52:30Getting hit a lot to the body. Getting hit a
- 52:33lot around the guard. And then he lands a fucking
- 52:37counter. And puts Marlon on his ass. So he was
- 52:43losing until he won. Expected better out of Sasaki
- 52:51for some reason. Let's see. Saturday, February
- 52:5721st. First, we start with Matchroom at the Nottingham
- 53:03Arena in the UK. From the bottom up, Leo Atang
- 53:09gets a stoppage in one. Congrats. You get to
- 53:12keep your name. David Allen stops Kareem Barragan.
- 53:19The GOAT. The GOAT. David GOAT Allen. Fucking
- 53:26romped him. The shit was not even competitive.
- 53:31I expected it to go like six rounds just because
- 53:35I saw Dave Allen was weighing in at a career
- 53:37high. Yeah, he was like almost 280. Yeah, technically
- 53:43the one fight against, he was 271 for this fight.
- 53:50He's only weighed 272 once. That was when Eddie
- 53:57Hearn called him a fat piece of shit on the broadcast.
- 54:02Jesus Christ. And I spent all that time defending
- 54:07Eddie Hearn a little bit ago. Eddie Hearn is
- 54:11not ready. He's got to start showing up in shape.
- 54:16Stop gambling. Didn't bring up the piss jugs,
- 54:20thankfully. But we love Dave Allen, and hopefully
- 54:25he gets, I don't know, a trilogy with Johnny
- 54:28Fisher, I guess. I feel like that's kind of the
- 54:33appeal of Dave Allen, though. He's just a, you
- 54:35know, a fat, bad dude. He's an everyman. He's
- 54:39just an average dude. Yeah. I mean, I remember
- 54:43when Eddie Hearn was talking about him versus
- 54:46Makhmudov, he was saying, you know, he's probably
- 54:48not going to win, but I got to respect him for
- 54:50wanting to take that fight. You know what? I
- 54:53agree with you, Eddie Hearn. Fuck it. I'm watching
- 54:56this shit. Here's your boxing junk food of the
- 55:01day. We'll never not recommend it. Dave Allen,
- 55:04Ariel Esteban, Bracamonte. Just two fat dudes
- 55:08going balls to the wall for seven rounds. We
- 55:14love Dave Allen here. We love Dave Allen. He
- 55:18is worth an at everyone on the Discord. Moving
- 55:26up, Molly McCann, Meatball Molly, gets a scoring
- 55:31referee points decision. Sandy Ryan wins the
- 55:40vacant WBC super lightweight title by majority
- 55:44decision. This was a lot more fun than it should
- 55:50have been or than I expected it to be. Bilal
- 55:53Fawaz. Majority decision over Ishmael Davis to
- 55:57secure the, what was it? Like the Brit and Commonwealth
- 56:01titles. Bilal had a wild backstory. Like he was
- 56:09smuggled into the UK as a kid. And it was crazy.
- 56:17But overall, it was. I don't know, maybe it wasn't
- 56:24that good of a fight, but Fawaz was doing a lot
- 56:28of posing and taunting. Here is a fight where
- 56:36I felt a little bit of shame for being a boxing
- 56:40degenerate. Lee Wood, unanimous decision over
- 56:45Josh Warrington. Pretty one -sided affair. I'm
- 56:51whatever gets Joshua Warrington Josh Warrington
- 56:55get whatever gets him the fuck out of like my
- 56:58social media feed even tangentially whatever
- 57:03gets him the fuck away from me yes but Lee Wood
- 57:08did not look very good in this yeah there was
- 57:14proper shame in discord like you guys are still
- 57:17watching this oh yeah i tuned i tuned out after
- 57:21like the seventh or eighth round where i was
- 57:23like there is no way like there's no way anything
- 57:27happens other than like what's been going on
- 57:29the last couple i half tuned out i admit i was
- 57:35still paying attention um but i just was like
- 57:38i'm gonna update the podcast stuff oh yeah you
- 57:44guys just fight in the background Yeah, that
- 57:49was not the best fight. Moving on. Average Brit
- 57:57scrap. I think they were saying in chat... Warrington
- 58:01was just so washed. Leawood was not much better.
- 58:06No, but, like, the thing is that it could have
- 58:09been fun if Warrington was not completely ruined.
- 58:19Somebody said that Lynn had tuned out about halfway
- 58:24through. Sure. Yeah, that's crazy. That's a good
- 58:30litmus test. Let's move on to the ring high stakes
- 58:38in Las Vegas, Nevada from the bottom up. I don't
- 58:44have these necessarily in order, but these are
- 58:47all the fucking prelims. Mohamed Alakel gets
- 58:51a stoppage in two over who cares. Here was a
- 58:57lot of fun. Joshua Edwards. Unanimous decision
- 59:01over Brandon Colantonio. We were having a lot
- 59:05of fun in chat with this one. Colantonio was
- 59:09giving Edwards a lot of trouble. His mobility.
- 59:13He was very clearly in shape, even though he
- 59:16didn't look like it. And his mobility was giving
- 59:20Edwards quite a bit of trouble. Even though the
- 59:25cards had it a sweep, I feel this was an indictment
- 59:29on Joshua Edwards and where he is compared to
- 59:35the hype anyway. Do you think that this is...
- 59:42Kind of a fraud watch for Joshua Edwards? Or
- 59:44is it just like, hey, maybe just a hiccup? Yeah,
- 59:49we'll have to see how Edwards carries on from
- 59:54here. Cole Antonio, I know, won a lot of hearts.
- 59:58Just looking like an average Joe and really putting
- 1:00:03in a good fight against a blue chip prospect.
- 1:00:11Yeah, we'll see how Edwards carries on. Amari
- 1:00:17Jones stops Luis Arias in four. Not really surprised
- 1:00:24here. Yeah, Luis Arias is... Super washed. Yeah,
- 1:00:31like, washed. Never all that to begin with, but
- 1:00:37definitely just washed right now. You know what?
- 1:00:41Given that he was never all that good to begin
- 1:00:45with, he comes into this a level below Washed.
- 1:00:50He's coming into this as a trapo. Oh, yeah. Who
- 1:00:57just has the slightest amount of name recognition,
- 1:01:02and thus we pair him with our blue chip prospect,
- 1:01:09Amari Jones. Dude, he'd fucking handled business
- 1:01:13the way that you would expect. Edwards, take
- 1:01:17notes. Moving up, Bektimir Melikuziev stops Sina
- 1:01:23Agbeko in seven. This is a snoozer. Jesus Christ.
- 1:01:31This is a rough watch. Like, he just kind of
- 1:01:33dawdled his way to a knockout. Like, they would...
- 1:01:39They would be, like, lunging at each other, throwing
- 1:01:41one or two punches, and then they'd clash, and
- 1:01:46then they'd get pulled apart, and then repeat
- 1:01:48the process over and over. And it just so happened
- 1:01:51that Beck was landing more than Cena. That's
- 1:01:57really it. Mm -hmm. Leaves a bit to be desired
- 1:02:03what... I wanted to think this would be the chance
- 1:02:08for Beck the Bully to get back to his bullying
- 1:02:11ways. Who were we talking about last time? Were
- 1:02:18we talking about somebody that had a 168er? We
- 1:02:23were talking about Munguia. Munguia. So, yeah.
- 1:02:28What I was hoping for here was for Beck to...
- 1:02:34reassert himself into the conversation of the
- 1:02:39top tier guys. Like with Diego Pacheco, his team
- 1:02:46pulled him out of a title fight saying that he's
- 1:02:48not ready. Jaime Munguia, his team pulled him
- 1:02:52out of a title fight for reasons we don't know.
- 1:02:57This is like the perfect chance for someone like
- 1:03:00Beck to have gotten back into the conversation.
- 1:03:04But instead we get this. Cut on his face. What
- 1:03:12a disgrace. Yeah. Oh, shit. This is the first
- 1:03:20time I've ever seen one happen. Frank Martin
- 1:03:24gets a unanimous draw with Nahir Albright. This
- 1:03:30is... I had never had to write... on our doc
- 1:03:35that we work from, I usually just write UD for
- 1:03:40unanimous decision. I've never had to write unanimous
- 1:03:44draw before. Frank Martin, for what he is touted
- 1:03:53to be, and I guess based on the hype, he definitely
- 1:04:00did not deliver. I would honestly argue that
- 1:04:05Nahir Albright got the win there. He did enough
- 1:04:09to get the win. Martin threw that away, though.
- 1:04:12Do you think that it was more Martin throwing
- 1:04:14it away than... Like, Albright definitely did
- 1:04:18a good job exploiting the gaps that Martin left.
- 1:04:23But... Oh, my God. Martin left some clear holes
- 1:04:28in there and then didn't... really assert himself
- 1:04:31all that well in the early going, and then obviously
- 1:04:35he unraveled late. I do think Albright wins a
- 1:04:42rematch, though, just because of how traffic
- 1:04:45was going. So something that I noticed in patterns
- 1:04:54I've noticed, just one example was Deontay Wilder
- 1:04:57throughout the Fury fights. Whenever he was not
- 1:05:03getting his way or he was in trouble himself,
- 1:05:06he had this tendency to throw this pawing jab
- 1:05:11and then trying to land the right hand behind
- 1:05:14it. Frank Martin kind of did the same thing where
- 1:05:18he tried to throw his jab, tried to throw the
- 1:05:22straight left behind it and then pivot out of
- 1:05:26the way. For a follow -up right hook. And it
- 1:05:30was just not working the whole fucking time.
- 1:05:33And he just kept doing it. Really seems like
- 1:05:37they just kind of trained one move. And then
- 1:05:39left it at that. Maybe they didn't expect Albright
- 1:05:44to have the acumen that he did. We ourselves
- 1:05:49knew that Albright was going to be a tough challenge,
- 1:05:51though. Of course. I mean, we're only, not to
- 1:05:55be mean to us, but we're a fucking podcast. These
- 1:05:58guys have been doing this shit for their whole
- 1:06:01lives. Derek fucking James, that was the game
- 1:06:05plan that you came up with? Exactly. I'm not
- 1:06:11trying to downplay this, but... You're trying
- 1:06:13to tell me that they're no better than us? They
- 1:06:16can't see that Naheer Albright is a tough opponent?
- 1:06:20He gave Keyshawn Davis solid work. He beat another
- 1:06:26Davis brother. How do you think that this is
- 1:06:30going to be a gimme fight? Just because he has
- 1:06:32name recognition. Did he gimmick his way up here?
- 1:06:37Absolutely not. Honestly, I feel like Naheer
- 1:06:41Albright... is going to be a very popular name
- 1:06:45that up -and -comers are going to fight. I could
- 1:06:50see and hear Albright fighting Emiliano Vargas
- 1:06:51in the future. Oh, yeah. I was going to say that
- 1:06:55I honestly don't think so because he's a fucking
- 1:06:58banana peel. No, but the thing is that he is
- 1:07:03in his prime right now. Yeah. He is going to
- 1:07:07decline. especially like fair enough i don't
- 1:07:10think i don't think he's gonna age that well
- 1:07:12considering he generally like he gets guys to
- 1:07:16unravel late but it's it puts miles on the clock
- 1:07:20to have to unravel a guy late every time right
- 1:07:23yeah you have to eat a bit of traffic to like
- 1:07:27you need you need to eat a bit you need to really
- 1:07:30feel him out so like the miles are on the clock
- 1:07:33I see what you mean. I'm not saying in one to
- 1:07:39two years he's going to be that gatekeeper. I'm
- 1:07:41thinking more four to five when he's 34, 35 and
- 1:07:46lost the step and the miles catch up to him.
- 1:07:50Someone already knocked him out. I understand
- 1:07:53what you guys mean. Right now, he's in contention.
- 1:07:56He's probably not going to win a belt, but he's
- 1:07:59in contention. Then he's going to meet someone
- 1:08:01who is... Great, to say the least. And it's going
- 1:08:07to be kind of a slip and slide from there. You
- 1:08:09know what? I disagree with you. I feel like he
- 1:08:11has a chance of getting a belt if he was moved
- 1:08:12properly. He would have had a belt already if
- 1:08:17he were that guy. Honestly, he's more likely
- 1:08:20to get a record deal than he is a title. Let
- 1:08:25me tell you this. How do guys like fucking...
- 1:08:28Abas Baral, Lewis Crocker, Jazza Dickens, all
- 1:08:32these guys that... They spoil the show. They
- 1:08:36spoil, but they also work their way up rankings.
- 1:08:40Usually the IBF, if you notice. Yeah, it's always
- 1:08:43the IBF. It's usually the IBF. They don't fight
- 1:08:47names until they get into the position to fight
- 1:08:50names. This guy, he had his chance with Jermaine
- 1:08:55Ortiz to skip the line. He had a chance with
- 1:08:58Keyshawn to skip the line. And his chance with
- 1:09:01Frank Martin to skip the line. Sometimes you
- 1:09:03just don't. Like you gamble, you lose. That's
- 1:09:06what it is. I just think in a weak division,
- 1:09:10a weaker division, he probably... Because he
- 1:09:14totally would have spoiled the guy. But here,
- 1:09:16140 is very strong. 140 is a really good division
- 1:09:20right now. Like 140 is really strong. So that's
- 1:09:23where, again, you gamble on yourself and sometimes,
- 1:09:26well, you lose. That's just what it is. Yeah.
- 1:09:31Honestly, I hope he keeps going. Because I kind
- 1:09:37of like watching him. Not necessarily him, but
- 1:09:41more like to see if a fighter can finally crack
- 1:09:43his ass. He is like the... premiere to me he
- 1:09:48is the premiere underdog story um he's been thrown
- 1:09:53in with higher much higher level names and he's
- 1:09:56given them fucking good work he fought to a draw
- 1:09:59with what was what was supposed to be pbc's blue
- 1:10:03chip guy in frank martin um and fought him to
- 1:10:08a draw uh really you can't what can what What
- 1:10:13more can you really ask for the B -side guy to
- 1:10:18fight the name? The house name? This is probably
- 1:10:24as good as it was going to get for him. Speaking
- 1:10:31of as good as it's going to get, Richardson Hitchens
- 1:10:39withdraws. Against Oscar Duarte. IBF. Super lightweight
- 1:10:47title fight. Is pulled from the card. Allegedly.
- 1:10:52This was the. Same day. Rehydration weigh in.
- 1:10:58Welcome. Welcome back. Lloyd Schofield Jr. And
- 1:11:04Richardson. Did not. He was having trouble with
- 1:11:09it. The. rumblings that i had read about where
- 1:11:15he he went like he was went to his breakfast
- 1:11:20or whatever for before the weigh -in and he was
- 1:11:24super sick afterwards after eating um but like
- 1:11:30you made the weigh -in you made the the actual
- 1:11:33weigh -in and then you're getting sick i don't
- 1:11:36know man yeah maybe duarte looked a little too
- 1:11:40big in person Sounds like a little bit of bull
- 1:11:43honky. It's a little weird, I will admit. A lot
- 1:11:48of people have been saying that because like
- 1:11:52this isn't the first time that somebody's had
- 1:11:54a problem with the same day rehydration weigh
- 1:11:58in. And because of that, IBF should just scrap
- 1:12:02it. I'm inclined to agree. Regardless of this
- 1:12:08Richardson -Hitchin situation, Daniel Jacobs
- 1:12:11had a problem with it a while ago. The same -day
- 1:12:18rehydration weigh -in is still fucking ridiculous.
- 1:12:22They have it as flat numbers, where if you're
- 1:12:27fighting at 140, you cannot weigh plus 10 pounds.
- 1:12:34the next day but if you fight at 154 it's like
- 1:12:37plus 12 you know what i'm saying like it's yeah
- 1:12:40it should be like it really should be a percentage
- 1:12:42yeah it should be a percentage of whatever your
- 1:12:45fight weight is and then there you go but overall
- 1:12:50uh is what do you what do you guys think is this
- 1:12:54is this like duck is this really a duck I genuinely
- 1:12:59feel... It's just really funny. Like, all this
- 1:13:02for Duarte is really funny. I genuinely feel
- 1:13:07it might just be a dunk because same day, he
- 1:13:11looked pretty fine the day prior. You know, I
- 1:13:15didn't see too much weight cut, like, the weight
- 1:13:21drain. Yeah, like, it's just... He might have
- 1:13:23been sick. You made the weight, dude. Yeah, he
- 1:13:25made the weight. That's what I mean. He literally
- 1:13:27made the weight. Yeah, that's the tough part.
- 1:13:30And honestly, it's hard to believe that he was,
- 1:13:33like, really sick, you know? Now, again, if you
- 1:13:38don't feel like you feel competent enough to
- 1:13:41get in the ring and risk your life, by all means,
- 1:13:43drop out. But we can still have our suspicions.
- 1:13:47We can still call you a duck because that does
- 1:13:49seem like a duck. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, it's
- 1:13:53funny. It's funny. I'm sorry. It's it's you're
- 1:13:57exactly right. Like these guys are putting their
- 1:14:01lives on the line for our entertainment. It's
- 1:14:05like if Richardson, like, bro, if you can't make
- 1:14:09the if you can't make the next day rehydration
- 1:14:13limit or whatever, then say so. Or if you just
- 1:14:19don't want to fight, then say so. If you're having
- 1:14:25problems making 140 and that is what led you
- 1:14:29to having issues with the rehydration limit,
- 1:14:31then say so. And then move up. Move up to 147
- 1:14:37so that you don't have these problems anymore.
- 1:14:39But, bro, Oscar Duarte is not... This is not
- 1:14:44the guy that you need to be like... having a
- 1:14:48fuss and pulling out of fights about. He probably
- 1:14:52would have won that pretty handily. As much as
- 1:14:57I would have liked for Duarte. Yeah, dude. Hitchens
- 1:15:01was perfect. Hitchens is actually good. Yes,
- 1:15:05as much as I don't like it. Hitchens is solid.
- 1:15:09Very solid. Seems like he's going to fight Delgado
- 1:15:13next. Oh yeah, his Mando. He has to now, because
- 1:15:18this was his voluntary that he fought tooth and
- 1:15:21nail to get. So yeah, Lendofo Delgado instead.
- 1:15:29They'll probably do that on the next Worst of
- 1:15:30the World. It's not a bad one, but out of the
- 1:15:35frying pan and into the fire. Well done. Moving
- 1:15:42up. The People's Main Event. Gary Antoine Russell,
- 1:15:48unanimous decision over Andy Hiraoka, retains
- 1:15:53his WBA super lightweight title. I was an Andy
- 1:16:01truther insofar as I didn't think he was going
- 1:16:06to win. I just thought he was going to give GAR
- 1:16:12a lot better of a fight. than most people were
- 1:16:15expecting. Other than Russell's nuts, what are
- 1:16:23we taking away from this? He sacrificed his nuts
- 1:16:28to break the curse. Russell could have made that
- 1:16:32easier for himself by listening to the Elder
- 1:16:36Gary in his corner. Definitely could have made
- 1:16:45that easier. I feel like he was way too trigger
- 1:16:47happy. Oh yeah. He definitely could have made
- 1:16:50that way easier. But you know what? The win's
- 1:16:53a win and it wasn't even uncomfortable. It was
- 1:16:57just... It wasn't. Honestly, if they don't make
- 1:17:02Albright and Martin next, fighting Albright or
- 1:17:07Martin is a good shout. No, I disagree. I honestly
- 1:17:11feel like... I think Russell should be in unification
- 1:17:16next. What is there at 1 -4? I'm talking about
- 1:17:20easy to make fights. What is there? He could
- 1:17:23own Dalton Smith. He could fight Hitchens. He
- 1:17:28could fight Shakur. I'm going to tell you this.
- 1:17:33He does not want to fight Shakur. When they asked
- 1:17:36him if he wanted to fight Shakur, he was like,
- 1:17:39yeah, I'll fight him last. Why? I gotta earn
- 1:17:44my way up the same way that he did. Get the fuck
- 1:17:47out of here, bro. Just so you can modify them.
- 1:17:49I respected the duck, but you know. Definitely
- 1:17:54Dalton Smith. Easiest title snipe. Easiest one.
- 1:18:01I was gonna say, unless Dalton Smith uses his
- 1:18:05time -slowing powers that we saw in the gif.
- 1:18:12Unless he uses his fucking time -stopping powers.
- 1:18:16I think it's a very easy fight. Maybe I'm just
- 1:18:22a hater. I really think GAR could make easy work
- 1:18:27of Richards and Hitchens. I think Hitchens is
- 1:18:32very negative, and honestly... Russell is very
- 1:18:36positive, though. I would have really liked to
- 1:18:39see Russell listen to his corner a bit more before
- 1:18:44engaging another negative fighter in his next
- 1:18:46fight. Andy wasn't that negative, was he? No,
- 1:18:50but I'm saying the habits of not listening to
- 1:18:57your corner when you don't need to. When you
- 1:19:00actually need to go to your plan B or C to track
- 1:19:04down a negative fighter. like you'll see it catch
- 1:19:07up then yeah like uh abdullah mason when he won
- 1:19:11the title yeah like he was clearly in charge
- 1:19:15but like he still wasn't listening to his corner
- 1:19:18yeah that makes sense harder and the thing is
- 1:19:20that andy was not like good or tough enough to
- 1:19:23give russell that like top check to listen to
- 1:19:28your damn corner But I'm just saying, a guy like
- 1:19:31Hitchens, you need to be dialed in with your
- 1:19:36corner to track him down across the ring. Okay.
- 1:19:40Especially because the Hitchens fight, he's going
- 1:19:42to get a huge ring. Oh, God. I hope not. You've
- 1:19:46got to find him. You're going to have to go find
- 1:19:47him. What if GAR fought Oscar Duarte next? The
- 1:19:56ultimate fuck you to Richardson Hitchens. That
- 1:19:59would be such a good fight, and it so sets up
- 1:20:02Richardson Hitchens. You can do the whole build
- 1:20:04-up. Like, it doesn't matter who the winner is.
- 1:20:07You both just take shots at Hitchens the whole
- 1:20:09time. It's beautiful. Like, they would actually,
- 1:20:13like, what is it? Carl Weathers and Arnie clapping
- 1:20:20hands in Predator. Dylan, you son of a bitch.
- 1:20:24Like, you just... Yeah, you do the entire build
- 1:20:28-up and you make... Sniping at Hitchens the whole
- 1:20:30time. Yeah, like... YSL in shambles. So real.
- 1:20:38Okay, so I... As much as J .R., like, the world
- 1:20:45is his fucking oyster, other than Shakur, like,
- 1:20:48I honestly think the world is right for the picking.
- 1:20:54I would like to take a second to think about
- 1:20:57what's possible for Hiraoka from here. Because
- 1:21:02he gave a good account of himself. He had the
- 1:21:07slip -ups with the low blows. Nobody's pretending
- 1:21:11that didn't happen. But what are some options
- 1:21:16here? Like Frank Martin and Hira Albright? Yeah,
- 1:21:21unless he's going straight for the top like you
- 1:21:23do Frank Martin. I'm assuming that they would
- 1:21:27have liked the winner from Frank Martin and Nahir
- 1:21:29Albright to challenge Russell next. And then
- 1:21:34take the loser. Yeah, like Andy takes the loser,
- 1:21:39you have Russell fight the winner, and then it
- 1:21:42all works out. That's how you align the schedule
- 1:21:44for them. Oh yeah, you have like a double elimination,
- 1:21:47like the winner of the loser fight. Gets another
- 1:21:51shot. Yeah, now you have... You basically set
- 1:21:55up your undercards really well going forward,
- 1:21:57but... Turkey curse. Turkey doesn't fucking listen
- 1:22:02to the show, apparently. Turkey curse. So it's
- 1:22:06a turkey curse, so nothing can go right? Still,
- 1:22:10I think... What I hope happens more than anything
- 1:22:14is Frank and Nahir do a rematch. Nahir fucking
- 1:22:18earned that shit if if Frank honestly like if
- 1:22:24Frank doesn't take it even though he did insist
- 1:22:28that that was what he wanted if he doesn't end
- 1:22:31up taking it to me that is peak quackery for
- 1:22:36what's supposed to be a blue chip guy yeah but
- 1:22:43yeah Gary like Antoine, the world's your oyster,
- 1:22:48man. You pretty much got your pick of the litter,
- 1:22:51apparently, except for Shakur Stevenson. Understandable,
- 1:22:57but Andy... Yeah, there are names that are on
- 1:23:03this card that are absolutely worth taking. I
- 1:23:08think that he proved he can at least hang at
- 1:23:11the higher end of the contender level. Maybe
- 1:23:15not necessarily as a champion yet, but I think
- 1:23:22he can still make something happen from this.
- 1:23:25All right. In the main event, Mario Barrios,
- 1:23:31the WBC welterweight champion, drops a decision
- 1:23:36to Ryan Garcia. It was written from the beginning
- 1:23:45when Ryan Garcia just like put him on his ass.
- 1:23:51The shit was not even close to competitive. I
- 1:23:55think one, one card had it 11 to one. Another
- 1:24:00card had it 12 to zero. I don't remember what
- 1:24:03the third one was, but that was, that was like,
- 1:24:11Does that go under the category for our yearly
- 1:24:16picks? Is that a masterclass or a beatdown? I
- 1:24:20would say beatdown. Beatdown? Beatdown, not masterclass.
- 1:24:22Beatdown. Beatdown. Masterclass is Shakur. This
- 1:24:24was a beatdown. He beat the shit out of them.
- 1:24:27Like, all 12. I gotta say, this reminded people
- 1:24:31why there's levels to this shit. I'm not gonna
- 1:24:34start saying that Ryan Garcia is elite like Shakur,
- 1:24:36but... I mean, last night... On Saturday. It
- 1:24:40proved. That Ryan. If. In. Top. Condition. With.
- 1:24:48Decent. Training. I guess. If you can say that.
- 1:24:53You. Is. The world's oyster. Because he's a star.
- 1:24:59And. He can fight. Fucking. Pretty much anybody.
- 1:25:03Honestly. And. I think that. He beats a lot of.
- 1:25:08Opponents. If he's dedicated. If he's dedicated.
- 1:25:12If not, he loses. What's kind of crazy is how
- 1:25:18good his dad was in the corner. I was about to
- 1:25:22say. Take notes. This is what it's like to coach
- 1:25:27your kid. Like, very suspicious. Like, I get
- 1:25:32it's Mario Barrios. So, like, he don't really
- 1:25:35need it. But just the way he, like, Like, this
- 1:25:40is how a dad is supposed to know his fighter.
- 1:25:45Like, he kept him dialed in. And, like, because
- 1:25:49Ryan, like, probably could have flown off the
- 1:25:51handle and made a dumb mistake and let Barrios
- 1:25:54into the fight. But, I don't know. I think he
- 1:25:59did a really good job keeping Ryan dialed in.
- 1:26:04Honestly, whatever he's doing in camp is working
- 1:26:06because we saw him use his right hand. That's
- 1:26:11how he scored the knockdown to start. Exactly.
- 1:26:14And a very good jab. Pretty nice uppercut too.
- 1:26:21I barely saw any of that left hook shit. I saw
- 1:26:27a lot of the right hook. The left hook came in
- 1:26:30strictly on checks. That was it. And honestly,
- 1:26:35that was a very good Ryan Garcia. I'm not saying
- 1:26:40this, but people are saying that he can fight
- 1:26:43Shakur and he has a chance of winning. They're
- 1:26:45building that fight up. I think that's a little
- 1:26:48bit of being intoxicated on the moment, to be
- 1:26:51honest with you. I got to agree, but I generally
- 1:26:56feel like... I did hear the chatter too, yeah.
- 1:26:59I think Ryan looked gangbusters last night and
- 1:27:02it proved why... There's champions that are moved
- 1:27:05properly and just fall into a belt. And there's
- 1:27:09also people that, like Ryan, he has the talent.
- 1:27:15He has the God -given gift of the quick twitch.
- 1:27:19But if you're not on your shit, you're never
- 1:27:22going to win. And Ryan proved it. He was on his
- 1:27:25shit and that he belongs with the other guys
- 1:27:29in the division. I think it was a very... great
- 1:27:32performance and I I earned $50 off my dad which
- 1:27:36he doesn't want to pay because he thinks that
- 1:27:38Ryan was cheating so we'll see maybe Ryan looked
- 1:27:45jacked he looked really fucking his physical
- 1:27:49I'm not gonna say like he looked I've spent some
- 1:27:53time in the power lifting circuit he doesn't
- 1:27:57look that kind of jacked you know what I mean
- 1:28:00He looks super muscular, yes. He's super ripped,
- 1:28:05but I think that's just good training, good discipline.
- 1:28:10I don't think that he was out of his mind on
- 1:28:14juice of any kind. Just my estimation of what
- 1:28:21I saw. For boxing, he looked like he was determined.
- 1:28:29Physically. So, the conversation, I think, for
- 1:28:37Ryan Garcia turns to... He now holds the WBC
- 1:28:42belt. To me, what should be his immediate opposition
- 1:28:48are, what, Lewis Crocker with the IBF, Raleigh
- 1:28:53Romero rematch with the WBA, and Devin Haney,
- 1:28:57run it back with him. um get an actual fucking
- 1:29:02result on your records with that um the like
- 1:29:08the easy the easy answer is lewis crocker like
- 1:29:13this i'm sorry buddy you don't like you don't
- 1:29:18fucking rate with the other guys even roly romero
- 1:29:23fucking mocks you um I think that Ryan Garcia
- 1:29:31is in the command seat right now. He gets to
- 1:29:37decide what the big unification fight will be.
- 1:29:42It's not even close. He's easily the name in
- 1:29:45the division, too. It's not even close. And,
- 1:29:49more importantly than anything, he has a world
- 1:29:53title before Virgil. Shut the fuck up. Shut the
- 1:29:58fuck up. Oh, my God. Look at this. A world title.
- 1:30:05Not just a world title fight. A full belt. Before
- 1:30:10Virgil could even get in the ring for one. Yeah.
- 1:30:16Well, that's what you call poor management. But
- 1:30:21back to Ryan. Virgil could not manage the butts
- 1:30:24he ate. Shut the fuck up. It's like the ass he's
- 1:30:28eating, he's also being treated like ass too.
- 1:30:32He's like an auroribos, the snake that eats its
- 1:30:36own ass. Hey, we're talking about Ryan right
- 1:30:39now. Hey, keep my hands off Virgil. Keep my hands
- 1:30:43off. Eat the hands off my Virgil. So the obvious,
- 1:30:48well, to me, what are the obvious next steps
- 1:30:51is one of those three unification bites. What?
- 1:30:58Let me check the WBC rankings. I want to see
- 1:31:02who they have in the first position for him.
- 1:31:08Walter Wade. Ryan Garcia's a champ. No shit.
- 1:31:12Connor Ben. What the fuck? They just placed him
- 1:31:16there. Oh, yeah. They just placed him there and
- 1:31:20then he signed a Zufa. And then they have Suleiman
- 1:31:24Sishko. From France. Okay. Manny Pacquiao, who
- 1:31:32we know is back. He's not going to fight Ryan.
- 1:31:35They have Ryan Garcia in the fourth position.
- 1:31:40So that's nice. He's both champ and number four.
- 1:31:45That's weird. Raul Curiel. That, I imagine, would
- 1:31:52be Oscar's dream. Jack Catterall, number six.
- 1:31:59Jaron Catterall. Oh, my God. Can I tell you guys
- 1:32:03something? I'm going to keep it up with you guys.
- 1:32:05I doubt Ryan is going to fight anybody on that
- 1:32:09list. That's not a big name. I agree. WBC, right?
- 1:32:14Yeah. He doesn't even have to. He's going to
- 1:32:20call the shots. WBC aren't making him fight anyone,
- 1:32:23bro. Yeah. Money, but just pay me. I don't care
- 1:32:28who you fight. I would say, honestly, the biggest
- 1:32:32money fights are either Shakur or Devin Haney.
- 1:32:34And one's a lot more winnable, and that's Devin
- 1:32:36Haney. But I feel like the more interesting fight
- 1:32:39right now would be Shakur. Because with Devin
- 1:32:43Haney, you don't know if, obviously, the performance
- 1:32:47he had with Devin was because of the pads, the
- 1:32:51beaties, or because Devin shit. That may have
- 1:32:55been proved. I really, like, the fight will go
- 1:33:00the same way. It just depends on how in shape
- 1:33:03Ryan is. And that's purely because it wasn't
- 1:33:06like, oh, Ryan caught him. Like, straight up,
- 1:33:09first, like, minute of the fight, Haney was on
- 1:33:12skates. I want to see that fight. I genuinely
- 1:33:16feel like I determined Ryan that we saw. I'm
- 1:33:18not going to say it's unnecessary. I'm just like.
- 1:33:19No, 100%, no. It's so clear. But Ryan versus
- 1:33:25Devin rematch would be very interesting. That
- 1:33:29would bring a lot of ice to the sport. However,
- 1:33:32a Ryan versus Shakur fight is something that
- 1:33:34I would say feels more like building the story
- 1:33:40of Shakur, building the career of Shakur, rather
- 1:33:42than building the career of Ryan, in my opinion.
- 1:33:45I feel like it's an easy Shakur win. Granted,
- 1:33:49if he does lose, they could just say that. He
- 1:33:52tried to be great. You know, the weight was too
- 1:33:56much. It took the biggest challenger. Yeah. I
- 1:34:00think when it comes to, as you put it, building
- 1:34:04the story of Ryan Garcia as like a champion or
- 1:34:09whatever, Teofimo, that's an easy fucking win,
- 1:34:12in my opinion. As long as Teofimo does not change
- 1:34:15his corner, he's like sitting. Out in the middle
- 1:34:22of the ocean with a little dingy raft. And Ryan
- 1:34:27is like a fucking giant whale and he's just going
- 1:34:30to smash him. It's not even close, dude. I was
- 1:34:34thinking in the chat about that fight that that
- 1:34:35fight is also a likely option, but they were
- 1:34:37making fun of me like, oh, Tew doesn't make any
- 1:34:39money. Because Tew really doesn't make money.
- 1:34:42I feel like it's more likely that he's going
- 1:34:46to end up unifying for more money because he
- 1:34:49has... Rolly and Haney in the same weight class.
- 1:34:55History with both of them. I understand, but
- 1:34:58if none of them want to fight Ryan and Conor
- 1:35:01Zufa, which I doubt the WBC is going to want
- 1:35:03Conor to fight Ryan right now. I don't think
- 1:35:07that either of those two would turn it down.
- 1:35:12With Devin and Shakur? No, with Devin and Rolly.
- 1:35:17Devin and Rolly. They don't turn it down. I feel
- 1:35:20like Devin has a possibility of turning down
- 1:35:22just because I don't think he wants to experience
- 1:35:25what he went through again. I feel like you might
- 1:35:28still be a little nervous over that. Would that
- 1:35:30be ducking? I'm not saying it's going to happen.
- 1:35:34I'm just saying that's a possibility. If he did,
- 1:35:38would it be ducking? If he did, honestly, that
- 1:35:42would be ducking. I kind of feel like it would
- 1:35:43be. Because he already fought him before. Right.
- 1:35:48Get him on the testing regimen that you're satisfied
- 1:35:51with and leave it at that. The thing is, I mean,
- 1:35:57Ryan was using, who was using this for this fight?
- 1:36:02Was it USADA or was it VADA? He was, I think,
- 1:36:06on USADA. I think. But the thing is that WBC
- 1:36:11uses VADA for their whatever testing. I mean,
- 1:36:19I'm pretty sure Vata probably tested his ass
- 1:36:21at the very end. Yeah, I'm sure he has been tested
- 1:36:25thoroughly. Especially after popping. Especially
- 1:36:29after popping before. Yeah, dude. They've been
- 1:36:33on top of his ass. Ryan Garcia is a champ and
- 1:36:37the world is oyster. Yeah. Ryan is in control
- 1:36:42of this division. Including the other champs.
- 1:36:47Ryan is in charge. Yeah. Which it's unfortunate
- 1:36:53because like Devin Haney is super fucking talented
- 1:36:56but the other two like fucking fuck them. Yeah.
- 1:37:04Anything more for high stakes? Not at all. Got
- 1:37:11one more. Salida. On DAZN in Detroit, Michigan.
- 1:37:21Only three that I was tracking. Danielle Perkins
- 1:37:25stops. Che Canale. I think I got that right.
- 1:37:31For the WBA light heavyweight title. And this
- 1:37:37one was a little wacky. Atif Olberton. gets gets
- 1:37:45the win it was a retirement after the first over
- 1:37:49joseph george uh apparently joseph was he was
- 1:37:56sitting in the corner right after the round it's
- 1:37:58fully responsive and then he just fucking slumps
- 1:38:01over completely oh yeah this happened he just
- 1:38:04falls completely over and he was like a fucking
- 1:38:08corpse on the ground it was really fucking frightening
- 1:38:12So that happened. It was only one round. I would
- 1:38:17suggest checking it out. Apparently, Joseph George
- 1:38:24is doing well. He's been discharged from the
- 1:38:28hospital. He's like no lingering issues. Should
- 1:38:33be OK. So that's good. And in the main undisputed
- 1:38:40heavyweight champion. Clarissa Shields. Yeah,
- 1:38:44heavyweight. Gets the UD over Franchon Cruz to
- 1:38:48CERN. The shit wasn't even close. Franchon didn't
- 1:38:55need to be within 25 pounds of that division.
- 1:39:02Overall, this was a... I'm trying to decide.
- 1:39:10What was the worst use of my time? Lee Woods,
- 1:39:14Josh Warrington, or this? Easily Lee Woods, Josh
- 1:39:18Warrington. This was at least okay for a round.
- 1:39:24Overall, I watched this shit so that you don't
- 1:39:27have to. It was certainly a fight. Clarissa Shields
- 1:39:35spent the post -fight interview talking about
- 1:39:39The just general lack of opposition. No shit.
- 1:39:46And talking about rematching people she's already
- 1:39:49beat. So it was a good time. Again, she could
- 1:39:54have probably won two more gold medals. Same
- 1:39:58career. And still had the exact same career with
- 1:40:01the same accolades and we'd still be talking
- 1:40:03about the same shit right now. Well, we would
- 1:40:08just be talking about her having beaten these
- 1:40:10people once. Yeah, instead of two to three times.
- 1:40:14Exactly, instead of multiple rematches that we
- 1:40:17don't need. But you get it. We would still be
- 1:40:19having the conversation of, this woman has no
- 1:40:22opposition. I wish she had anyone to fight. And
- 1:40:25alternate universe Josh is probably like, hey,
- 1:40:28why didn't she just go for another gold medal
- 1:40:30on top of that? Why not? Why not? The gold medal's
- 1:40:34at least like... they bring you i'm gonna say
- 1:40:39more good press than olympic pedigree is a lot
- 1:40:43i would say is a lot bigger than uh these trinkets
- 1:40:46baby yeah like at what point do you like start
- 1:40:52like throwing them out this is an ollie foreman
- 1:40:55yeah it's shields for cruz discern too it this
- 1:41:01is not fucking ollie joe frazier too Yeah, I
- 1:41:05had someone, I think I saw someone on Discord
- 1:41:07complaining, like, why does Cruz Dizern look,
- 1:41:10like, low -key out of shape? And I'm like, that's
- 1:41:12because she moved up. Five fucking divisions.
- 1:41:17Yeah. Like, Cruz Dizern moved up a fuck ton just
- 1:41:21to get fights. Like, this is heavyweight. I don't
- 1:41:26know. I will, I want to leave it at this. Jake
- 1:41:32Paul's next, I guess. Clarissa Shields, very
- 1:41:36clearly, super fucking dominant. It's not really
- 1:41:41her fault that there's nobody around her to fight.
- 1:41:45That's how it goes for the ladies. Sorry. I don't
- 1:41:51know how someone could be blamed for having other
- 1:41:58fighters above her in the pound -for -pound list.
- 1:42:00You're not beating anybody. I don't know. That
- 1:42:06was a conversation that I saw happening online.
- 1:42:09Why Shields has to be number one? Super talented,
- 1:42:15yes, but who's she beating? Alright. Last thing.
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- 1:45:24bitch. All right. We are in the homestretch.
- 1:45:32Previews are really light. This is a... This,
- 1:45:38I would... I'm going to preface what we talk
- 1:45:41about with this. This is a good time to maybe
- 1:45:45think about other activities that you can do.
- 1:45:50Go... Going outside in particular. Start looking
- 1:45:55into maybe some nice trail walks you can do.
- 1:45:59Other stuff because there's not a whole lot of
- 1:46:01boxing. Thursday, March 5th. Eye of the Tiger.
- 1:46:07This will be free on the web streaming service
- 1:46:11called Punching Grace. Yeah. Sure. Hold on. I
- 1:46:20want to check. I want to be sure before I...
- 1:46:25Okay, he's still... Okay. Moving from the bottom
- 1:46:35up. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Steve Claggett
- 1:46:38is on this one. It's an Eye of the Tiger card,
- 1:46:42so expect a lot of Canadian names here. Steve
- 1:46:47Claggett's opponent as of right now, TBA. So
- 1:46:52whenever fight night comes, you can expect just
- 1:46:55quality. Quality op. Moving up. I don't reckon.
- 1:47:04Oh, Isaac Chalemba. Are you fucking kidding me?
- 1:47:07Oh my God. The goop face guy. That's him. Isaac
- 1:47:13Chalemba. Holy fuck. Boys are back in town for
- 1:47:18this one. You said Isaac Chalemba and I lit up
- 1:47:22thinking of the... What's the command again?
- 1:47:26I think it's Chalemba. It's Chalemba. Isaac Chalemba
- 1:47:35versus Lennar Perez. God bless. Oh, this is at
- 1:47:39Cruiserweight. So Chalemba has stepped up. Yeah,
- 1:47:46he stepped up in competition, right? In the main
- 1:47:52event, Stephen Butler versus Ramadan Hisani at
- 1:48:01Super Middleweight. If your name is Ramadan,
- 1:48:06you should be named Christmas. That's the equivalent.
- 1:48:11He's a Swiss guy, too. Named Ramadan? Yeah. Excellent.
- 1:48:16Makes perfect sense. This guy named Ramadan.
- 1:48:19Sure. Whatever, man. Sure. Isaac Chalimba. Man,
- 1:48:28maybe it's worth watching this just for Isaac
- 1:48:30Chalimba. And Sunday, March 8th. I have not to
- 1:48:41date seen what else is going to be on this card.
- 1:48:44It is highly likely it's not going to be very
- 1:48:48good. Or at the very least, it's not going to
- 1:48:52be anyone you've heard of. Zufa Boxing 4 at the
- 1:48:57Meta Apex in Las Vegas. The headliner, IBF Cruiserweight
- 1:49:04Champion Jai Albataya vs. Brandon Glanton. Sure,
- 1:49:18whatever. It is a fight. It is one of the fights
- 1:49:22of all time. Sure. Go outside. Like I said, this
- 1:49:31is a good weekend to plan an activity outside
- 1:49:37of your home. You don't have to sit home and
- 1:49:43watch this shit. There's nothing going on. Honestly,
- 1:49:49the UFC card, if you are desperate for fucking
- 1:49:53fighting, but that, no. That ain't it, man. This
- 1:49:59weekend, this ain't it. Go elsewhere. Do otherwise.
- 1:50:12Isaac Chalimba. Jesus Christ. This is what dreams
- 1:50:22are made of, is fighting Isaac Chalemba. Oh,
- 1:50:28shit. All right, so we are definitely up on time
- 1:50:34here. It is a super light weekend. Not a whole
- 1:50:42lot of boxing going on. Parting words. What do
- 1:50:49you got? I would like to say, you know, besides
- 1:50:56the boxing stuff, you know, I just want to let
- 1:51:00everybody know if you're dealing with anything
- 1:51:02that was mental, that if you're not doing so
- 1:51:08well, I would 100 % recommend reaching out. I
- 1:51:12hope everybody that's listening to this pod is
- 1:51:14doing great. But I just want to support mental
- 1:51:18health awareness. I just want to raise mental
- 1:51:21health awareness for my closing statement. I
- 1:51:25hope everybody's doing well. It's very wholesome.
- 1:51:31Yeah, I guess. Let's see. On the opposite end,
- 1:51:43just for the... The counterbalance. I hope you're
- 1:51:48all doing poorly. Yeah. I hope you're feeling
- 1:51:53nauseous at like 90 % of the time and the other
- 1:51:5810 % you're having diarrhea. Well, Washington
- 1:52:03D. Allen. I hope you piss in jugs and waste all
- 1:52:09your paychecks gambling like Dave Allen. I can't
- 1:52:16even bring myself to finish that. All right.
- 1:52:22So, yeah, we are heading into a light fucking
- 1:52:24weekend. Like I said, dude, find something else.
- 1:52:28There's plenty of things you could do other than
- 1:52:32sit in your fucking cave. Yeah, you can listen
- 1:52:35to this podcast. That's true. Well, that's like
- 1:52:41a given. Well, you can do it again. You can do
- 1:52:45it again. While you're on your trail nature walk,
- 1:52:49you can listen to this. All right. That's it
- 1:52:53for this edition of The Boxing B -Sides. We'll
- 1:52:57fucking see you on the other side with some boxing.