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Liberal Logic on Iran, Hegseth takes it to the Media & Screwing up the Iranian End Game Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review, Ben
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories that
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this week that you may have missed.
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  Speaker 1: First up, talk about liberal logic since the attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Liberals are afraid of Iran's response to what Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: is doing, say, you can be starting World War three,
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  Speaker 1: yet they're not afraid of Iran actually getting a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: We'll break that down for you. Also, the DoD Secretary
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  Speaker 1: Pete Headseth briefing doing it directly to the media, calling
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  Speaker 1: them out to their faces on their lies about the
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  Speaker 1: damage assessment. And finally, the big question moving forward is
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  Speaker 1: what's next and what can happen if we screw up
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  Speaker 1: the endgame. It's the weekend Review and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the liberal logic that
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  Speaker 1: has been coming out of so many Democrats since this
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  Speaker 1: attack took place. And the people who seem to be
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  Speaker 1: obsessing over Iran's response, implying that their response is Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump's fault that they're going to respond are the same
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  Speaker 1: idiots that we're not afraid of Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain that liberal logic.
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  Speaker 2: Please. Sadly, Today's Democrat party sides with every enemy of America.
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  Speaker 2: They side on the other side.
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  Speaker 3: Look.
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  Speaker 2: JK Rowling tweeted this weekend about this person, India Willoughby.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'll confess I have no idea who India Willoughby is.
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  Speaker 2: But JK Rowling tweeted, India a fan of women, hating
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  Speaker 2: gay hating, authoritating authoritarian regime. Color me astonished. So I
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  Speaker 2: went and googled who is this India Willoughby person? And
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  Speaker 2: it turns out, according to Wikipedia quote, she is Britain's
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  Speaker 2: first transgender national television newsreader. Now pause for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Iran murders transgender people. They throw them off buildings.
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  Speaker 2: If you are gay, they murder you. And think about
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  Speaker 2: the mindset of a leftist who this transgender news reader
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  Speaker 2: in I guess the UK is like, even though the
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  Speaker 2: Iyahtola wants to murder me, I stand with the Ayatola
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  Speaker 2: rather than America. That is how messed up leftists are
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  Speaker 2: right now, They're like, oh, homicidal theocratic women are pressing gay, murdering, torturing,
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  Speaker 2: genocidal lunatics. Those are my people.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me and then you
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  Speaker 1: go back to also the quotes that people have been posting,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's really important that history reflect. You
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  Speaker 1: go back to Bill Clinton, Senator, and he said that
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  Speaker 1: Iran couldn't get a nuclear weapon. Hillary Clinton when she
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  Speaker 1: was a senator, Secretary of State and running for president,
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  Speaker 1: said Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon. Barack Obama said
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  Speaker 1: that he cannot get a nuclear weapon. You had Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden that said they couldn't get anclear weapon, and then
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  Speaker 1: they're at sixty plus percent and Donald Trump stops him,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of the lefts like, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna start World War three. This is somehow your fault.
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  Speaker 1: You're the aggressor.
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  Speaker 2: And understand the reason we are here is because of
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  Speaker 2: Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Barack Obama negotiated the disastrous
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  Speaker 2: Iran nuclear deal that flooded billions and billions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: into Iran. Listen, remember Obama literally flew one point seven
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars of cash unmarked bills on a palette to
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  Speaker 2: deliver to the Iyahtola. That agreement set the stage for
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  Speaker 2: Iran to get nuclear weapons. Donald Trump, when he came
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  Speaker 2: in as.
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  Speaker 1: President for a second, and just now, in hindsight, what
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  Speaker 1: really was that deal? Was that dal a, Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have to deal with you guys, so
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  Speaker 1: let's just you kind of play nice for me and
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  Speaker 1: then I'll kick the can down the road to another administration. Like,
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  Speaker 1: in hindsight, what was that? Why did we do that deal?
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  Speaker 2: It was rat ideology. You know, when Barack Obama first
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  Speaker 2: became president, he went and gave a speech at the
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  Speaker 2: University of Cairo in Egypt, and in that speech he
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  Speaker 2: said Iran has a right and he used the word right,
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  Speaker 2: a right to nuclear technology. Now that is nutty. That is,
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  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with the right to the pursuit of happiness.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with a right to possess thermonuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, I think Barack
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  Speaker 2: Obama and his entire team came in with an ideological
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  Speaker 2: view that America's role in the world is fundamentally illegitimate,
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  Speaker 2: that we are colonial oppressors. Look, as you know, my
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  Speaker 2: last book was Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America.
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  Speaker 2: These are the cultural Marxists. They view America as illegitimate
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  Speaker 2: and therefore they viewed that we have no business, we
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  Speaker 2: have no right stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: the Obama Ran nuclear deal would inevitably lead to I
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  Speaker 2: Ran with nuclear weapon. And these guys are not idiots.
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  Speaker 2: They knew that. They're fine with that outcome because they
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  Speaker 2: believe America has no right to prevent it. My view is,
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  Speaker 2: yes we do. If you've got a lunatic who's sang
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  Speaker 2: death to America and we have the power to stop
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  Speaker 2: him from getting nuclear weapons, we will use that power
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  Speaker 2: because the commander in chief is not going to fail
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  Speaker 2: to protect America. And I got to say, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the useful idiots across the globe a you've got the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats today who are all chirping about how dare you
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  Speaker 2: act to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. We
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  Speaker 2: also had the Secretary of the United Nations, Antonio Guterras,
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  Speaker 2: who put out a statement I'm going to read it
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  Speaker 2: to you quote. I am gravely alarmed by the use
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  Speaker 2: of force by the United States against Iran today. This
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  Speaker 2: is a dangerous escalation in a region already on the
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  Speaker 2: edge and a direct threat to international peace and security.
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  Speaker 2: There is a growing risk that this conflict could rapidly
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  Speaker 2: get out of control, with catastrophic consequences for civilians, the region,
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  Speaker 2: and the world. I call on member states to de
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  Speaker 2: escalate and to uphold their obligations under the UN Charter
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  Speaker 2: and other rules of international law. At this perilous hour,
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  Speaker 2: it is critical to avoid a spiral of chaos. There
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  Speaker 2: is no military solution. The only path forward is diplomacy.
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  Speaker 2: The only hope is peace. What a blithering idiot. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what I tweeted today. I tweeted, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the UN sides with Iran clown face emoji clown face,
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  Speaker 2: emoji clown face emergent. The only thing they couldn't decide
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  Speaker 2: is which chant they agree with more strongly, quote death
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  Speaker 2: to Israel or quote death to America. And then I
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  Speaker 2: asked a simple question, Remind me again why we're paying
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  Speaker 2: their bills.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fair question. And you've got to wonder what's
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  Speaker 1: the even point of being involved that if this is
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  Speaker 1: how insane they actually are, so what's move?
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  Speaker 2: But by the way, Ben I also so observed, I
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  Speaker 2: think Tehran would make a lovely UN headquarters, just located
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  Speaker 2: right there. Maybe on the smoldering ashes of FDA, we
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  Speaker 2: can put put the UN there, and they can all
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  Speaker 2: get together with their anti Israel hate and their anti
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  Speaker 2: American hate, and they can sit there and glow radioactive
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  Speaker 2: while they talk about developing developing nuclear weapons to bomb America.
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  Speaker 1: At least it would be intellectually honest, like where's the UN.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Tehran. Okay, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Look, that's who they This should not be complicated Iran, Like,
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  Speaker 2: let me ask you, Ben, seriously, put yourself in the
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  Speaker 2: head of the UN Secretary General. How do you look
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  Speaker 2: at this and say where do I stand? I know
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  Speaker 2: with Iran, Like what thought pressis goes through your brain?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the upside of doing that? And why? And
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  Speaker 1: especially if you know what Iran just did and how
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  Speaker 1: many terrorist organizations they've supported that are just beyond I
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  Speaker 1: mean factually accurate hamas HESBLA, and the UN's like we
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  Speaker 1: got you, We're going to cover for you. Don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: we got your back. It is and that's the reason
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  Speaker 1: why I think it delegitimizes the United Nations to the
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  Speaker 1: point where I just roll my eyes at them. Now
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  Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to what they say. Final question,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what is next. It's very clear. There's
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  Speaker 1: a warning from this present don't screw with us moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: If Iran is dumb enough to retaliate against Americans in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East, maybe even shutting down the Strait of
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  Speaker 1: Horn Moves, what is the presence obligation moving forward on that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the consequences of the bombing run is
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  Speaker 2: the parliament in Iran did vote to shut down the
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  Speaker 2: Straits of her Moves. Now, the Parliament's not the decision
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  Speaker 2: maker at the end of the day, the Iatola is
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  Speaker 2: the decision maker. So it's not clear if Iran is
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  Speaker 2: going to do so or not. If it did so,
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  Speaker 2: it would impact America, but it would impact China even more.
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  Speaker 2: Roughly half of the oil that China uses travels through
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  Speaker 2: the Straits of hor Moos. A very small percentage of
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  Speaker 2: American oil travels through there. But that being said, if
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  Speaker 2: the Straits of our Moves were shut down, it would
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  Speaker 2: impact Americas because it would drive up global oil prices,
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  Speaker 2: it would drive up gasoline prices at home, and that
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  Speaker 2: would impact Americans. I hope that doesn't happen. I think
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  Speaker 2: if they try to shut down those major trade routes
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  Speaker 2: and commerce fruits, I think we will see, we will
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  Speaker 2: see force to open them up because Iran does not
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  Speaker 2: have the right to shut down the ability of America
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  Speaker 2: and the rest of the world to engage in trade
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  Speaker 2: and commerce. That is a possible escalation. I think the
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  Speaker 2: most likely escalation is going to be continued a tax
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  Speaker 2: on civilians in Israel, because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Iotola and the Mullahs they hate the
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  Speaker 2: Jewish people, and murdering innocent civilians is something that they
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  Speaker 2: believe in. I worry, as I said, about the risk
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  Speaker 2: of terrorist attacks as well. I think those are, sadly
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  Speaker 2: the two most likely the people of Israel. I know
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  Speaker 2: the government of Israel that the Iron Dome, they're working
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  Speaker 2: hard to protect their civilians. America is assisting in that,
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  Speaker 2: and here at home, law enforcement and Homeland Security in
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Justice are all working hard to intercept
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  Speaker 2: and stop any terrorist attack before it occurs. But understand,
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  Speaker 2: these are dangerous times. But they're dangerous times because we
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  Speaker 2: have enemies that wish to do harm to America. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why the responsibility that the President has is so
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  Speaker 2: grave and serious. And I will say, listening to President
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  Speaker 2: Trump speaks Saturday night, I think there are times where
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  Speaker 2: the weight of the job really falls on his shoulders
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  Speaker 2: and he feels it, and I think Saturday night was
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  Speaker 2: one of them, because it was an incredibly consequential moment
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  Speaker 2: in our nation's history, and a very positive moment of
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  Speaker 2: the President standing up and saying, my first responsibility is
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  Speaker 2: to defend America, and I will not shirk for that responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator,
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  Speaker 1: I want to play for everybody Pete Headseth at the
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  Speaker 1: Pentagon briefing about how effective this attack actually was and
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  Speaker 1: saying it directly to the media's phase. Take a listen be.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the assessments that have been provided, because whether
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  Speaker 4: it's fake news, CNN, MSNBC or The New York Times,
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  Speaker 4: there's been fawning coverage of a preliminary assessment.
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  Speaker 3: I've had a chance to read it.
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  Speaker 4: Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from
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  Speaker 4: DA I'm looking at it right now again. It was
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  Speaker 4: preliminary a day and a half after the actual strike,
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  Speaker 4: when it admits itself in writing that it requires weeks
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  Speaker 4: to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment's preliminary.
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  Speaker 4: It points out that it's not been coordinated with the
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  Speaker 4: intelligence community at all. There's low confidence in this particular reports,
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  Speaker 4: it says in the report.
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  Speaker 3: There are gaps in the information. It says in the report.
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  Speaker 4: Multiple lynchpin assumptions are what this assessment a lynchpin assumption?
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  Speaker 3: You know what that is.
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  Speaker 4: It means your entire premis is predicated on a lynch pin.
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  Speaker 3: If you're wrong, everything else is wrong.
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  Speaker 4: And yet still this report acknowledges it's likely severe damage.
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  Speaker 3: Again, this is preliminary, but.
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  Speaker 4: Leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy
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  Speaker 4: the waters and make it look like this historic strike
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't successful. I'm gonna get to the chairman in
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  Speaker 4: a moment, because he's going to lay out the particulars
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  Speaker 4: for you based on his professional military experience. But here's
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  Speaker 4: what other folks are saying. THEDIA that put that report
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  Speaker 4: out says that this is a preliminary, low confidence report
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  Speaker 4: and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available.
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  Speaker 4: How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission, The devastating US
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  Speaker 4: strikes on four doh destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and
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  Speaker 4: rendered the enrichment facility inoperable. Have any of these quotes
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  Speaker 4: made their way into the New York Times or The
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  Speaker 4: Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, any of these quotes? How about
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  Speaker 4: this one? This is a new one from the UN.
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  Speaker 4: The United Nations no friend of the United States or
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  Speaker 4: certainly Israel often. Here's the head of the UN Atomic
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  Speaker 4: Energy Agency this morning, Raphael Grossi. US and Israeli strikes
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  Speaker 4: caused enormous damage to Iran's nuclear sites.
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  Speaker 3: Don't take my word for it.
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  Speaker 4: How about the IDF's chief of staff. I can say
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  Speaker 4: here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the
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  Speaker 4: nuclear program, setting it back by years.
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  Speaker 3: I repeat years.
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  Speaker 4: The Iranian foreign minister the spokesman, our nuclear instrations have
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  Speaker 4: been badly damaged, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's an understatement.
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  Speaker 4: John Radcliffe, the director of the CIA, putting out a
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  Speaker 4: statement just last night, CIA confirmed that a body of
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  Speaker 4: credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged
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  Speaker 4: by recent targeted stripes.
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  Speaker 3: This includes new intelligence from.
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  Speaker 4: A historically reliable very different than preliminary assessment with low confidence.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying historically.
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  Speaker 4: Reliable and accurate source and method that several key Iranian
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  Speaker 4: nuclear facilities were destroyed and would have to be rebuilt
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  Speaker 4: over the course of years.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to all of that data, and I love
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  Speaker 1: how he laid it out. He's not just saying this
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  Speaker 1: is from our administration, this is from people that hate us,
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  Speaker 1: this from the UN, this is from ran Like, how
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  Speaker 1: the hell did you guys go with this report when
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  Speaker 1: it's so aw from reality.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think the evidence is indisputable and it's worth noting,
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  Speaker 2: he said. The Secretary of Defense said in that press
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  Speaker 2: conference that the Iranian nuclear weapons program has set been
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  Speaker 2: set back years. I can tell you I spent an
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  Speaker 2: hour and a half in a classified briefing. I can't
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  Speaker 2: tell you what was in that briefing, but we heard
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  Speaker 2: nothing that was inconsistent with what the Secretary of Defense
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  Speaker 2: said in that press conference, which is that this military
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  Speaker 2: attack set Iran's nuclear program back years. It was incredibly effective,
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  Speaker 2: and so that is caused for celebration, which is why
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats don't want people to know about it. The
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  Speaker 2: media don't want people to know about it. But I
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  Speaker 2: have to say I mentioned at the outside of this program,
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  Speaker 2: we we're going to discuss what happened, but every bit
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  Speaker 2: is importantly We're going to discuss what's going to happen next.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, it's one thing to talk about where the
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  Speaker 2: puck is today, but you've got to look at where
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  Speaker 2: the puck is going to be tomorrow and where the
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  Speaker 2: puck is going to be tomorrow. There was a CNN
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  Speaker 2: report that came out this week that said, quote, the
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  Speaker 2: Trump admin is considering offering I ran a series of
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  Speaker 2: may your benefits to bring it back to the negotiating table.
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  Speaker 2: According to the report, Washington is considering helping Iran establish
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  Speaker 2: a nuclear program for the purpose of producing civilian energy
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  Speaker 2: at a cost of about thirty billion dollars, easing sanctions
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  Speaker 2: and unfreezing billions of frozen Iranian dollars. And I will
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  Speaker 2: tell you within the Trump administration right now, there is
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  Speaker 2: a battle. There were voices within the Trump administration. These
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  Speaker 2: are the voices that opposed the strike on Iran, that
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  Speaker 2: wanted to have weakness and appeasement towards Iran, who are
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  Speaker 2: now saying, well, after the strike, after victory, we should
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  Speaker 2: flow billions of dollars to Iran. We should let them
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  Speaker 2: sell oil, let them sell oil to China. We should
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  Speaker 2: let them make billions. And I got to tell you
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  Speaker 2: this is the same failed approach of Barack Obama and
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. We should, under no circumstances allow the Ayahtola,
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  Speaker 2: who chanced death to America, who has been actively trying
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  Speaker 2: to murder President Trump. We should not let him win
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  Speaker 2: a windfall and get billions of dollars to use to
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  Speaker 2: wage war against America.
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  Speaker 1: How did we even get to this point where this
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  Speaker 1: was a real possibility. Where is this coming from? Because
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  Speaker 1: it is shocking. Like you said, you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do the same thing. There was a failure with the
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  Speaker 1: last administrations where they're like, hey, here's billions of dollars,
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  Speaker 1: we'll put it on a plane, and here's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of American money. You have a great day.
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  Speaker 2: Listen their voices in the Republican Party who have decided
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  Speaker 2: to embrace isolationism, who has decided to say we should
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  Speaker 2: withdraw from the world. You and I talked previously on
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  Speaker 2: this podcast about the interview I did with Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 2: I knew what that was going to be I knew
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  Speaker 2: when I accepted that interview that Tucker was coming after me,
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  Speaker 2: that he was going to do everything he can to
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  Speaker 2: blast me, And he and I spent two hours. It
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  Speaker 2: was a it was a bloodbath. We were pounding the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of each other. But every single thing Tucker
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  Speaker 2: said about Iran and Israel proved wrong. Tucker said publicly,
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  Speaker 2: if America strikes Iran, we would be dragged into World
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  Speaker 2: War three. Thousands of Americans would be killed, and in
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  Speaker 2: World War three we would lose. Now, Ben, that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: slightly wrong, It wasn't a little bit wrong. It was
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  Speaker 2: totally catastrophically utterly false. Tucker also argued with me at
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  Speaker 2: great length, it's not true that Iran is trying to
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  Speaker 2: murder Donald J. Trump. Well, you know, it's one thing
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  Speaker 2: if you're a talk show host and you can just
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  Speaker 2: kind of yell into the microphone and ignore facts. But
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  Speaker 2: facts matter, The truth matters. It is an objective fact
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  Speaker 2: that Iran has been trying to murder Donald J. Trump
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  Speaker 2: has been trying to murder him for several years. And
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  Speaker 2: I pointed this out in the interview. I put it
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  Speaker 2: out afterwards. I put out the yield indictment from the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Justice indicting Iranian hitmen who were here in
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  Speaker 2: the United States trying to murder Donald J. Trump. I
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  Speaker 2: put out video of President Trump talking about the Iranians
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  Speaker 2: trying to murder him. I put out video of senior
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  Speaker 2: Iranian leaders talking about their intention to murder Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: I put out a video that the IRGC put out
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  Speaker 2: an animated video of an Iranian drone murdering Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: on the golf course at mar A Lago. And it
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  Speaker 2: is an objective fact. And this is where again the
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  Speaker 2: sort of isolationist rhetoric is weird, because when I said
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  Speaker 2: that Iran was trying to murder President Trump, and Tucker said,
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard that, and then he did his kind
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: of weird, high pitched cackle. He then came back with
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: this bizarre statement, Well, if that were true, that Iran
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: were trying to murder Donald J. Trump, well then we
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: should attack them immediately, we should nuke them. And I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: got say, I kind of wondered if if like Tucker
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Carlson's old neo Kon. To be clear, Tucker carl said
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  Speaker 2: was someone who during the Iraq War, was a cheerleader
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: for the Iraq War. He basically put on a short
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: skirt and pom poms. I think the Iraq War was
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  Speaker 2: a mistake. I've been vocal about that for years. Tucker
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  Speaker 2: cheered it on. It is loopy, It is fruit loops
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  Speaker 2: to say you should nuk Iran because they're doing that. No,
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  Speaker 2: the right thing to do is what President Trump did,
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  Speaker 2: which is take out their nuclear weapons capability. And I
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  Speaker 2: got to say Tucker's voice and their allies of Tucker
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  Speaker 2: in the administration who were desperately trying to convince the president,
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  Speaker 2: do not attack Iran, do not take out their nuclear
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  Speaker 2: weapons capability, do not support it Israel, abandon Israel. They
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: were wrong, and they lost this battle. But the second iteration,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and this is coming is there. They're now saying, Okay,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that you've won, give the Iatola billions of dollars because
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it works out really well. When you give billions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars to a theocratic lunatic who says they want to
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  Speaker 2: murder you and is still actively trying to murder you,
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  Speaker 2: that is incredibly foolish. And so I'm merging the president,
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  Speaker 2: don't listen to those voices. They were wrong before and
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  Speaker 2: they're wrong now. Do not send billions of dollars to
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  Speaker 2: the Iatola as before.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on this topic, you can go back and now the
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  Speaker 1: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story number
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  Speaker 1: three of the week. You may have missed where things
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: are going now and how we could screw up the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in game here with a ran with some in this
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: country saying well, maybe we should appeased them a little bit,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense. Yet that's where we are.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Consider you had this to say on Haydi's show about
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Say something else, Sean. There are voices in the administration
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  Speaker 2: now that the president has scored an historic victory, who
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  Speaker 2: are urging, let's cut a deal. Let's let Iran sell oils,
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  Speaker 2: let's lift all the sanction, Let's make this a victory
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  Speaker 2: for the Iyatola. Understand this Iatola still hates America, a
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  Speaker 2: chance death to America, and he's been trying to murder
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and so it would be a catastrophic mistake
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  Speaker 2: to flood billions of dollars into Iran.
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  Speaker 5: I agree with you. What if they use a proxy
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  Speaker 5: to attack Israel. Does that end the ceasefire? Because I
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  Speaker 5: would imagine that's plant that's the next plan real quick.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you one of the best indications of
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: how successful this attack was. Within hours, Iran was rushing
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  Speaker 2: to have a ceasefire. That's because they are utterly decimated
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and weakened, and that's why they wanted to cease fire.
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  Speaker 2: But don't think for a minute they suddenly love America
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  Speaker 2: or love Israel. They still hate us. They are still
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  Speaker 2: our enemy, but we use taking away their ability to
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  Speaker 2: murder Americans.
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  Speaker 5: If they use a proxy to attack Israel, are they
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  Speaker 5: to blame?
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  Speaker 2: Of course they are the proxies. Hesbel and Hamas work
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  Speaker 2: for Iran. They pay for them, and they control them.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Senator Ted Cruz, we always appreciate your time, Sentator.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Thanks strong clothes their centator. And that's it's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: This is what people are trying to do now.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely is. And I'll tell you one point that
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  Speaker 2: I made on Hannity that I think is powerful. We
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  Speaker 2: started this show by talking about how the Democrats in
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the media are trying to claim the attack was not effective.
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  Speaker 2: If that were true, why did Iran immediately want a
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  Speaker 2: cease fire. Look, Iran has been at war with Israel
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  Speaker 2: for years. They had been lobbing missiles. They had been
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  Speaker 2: funding Hamas and Hesbela. Understand Hamas more than ninety percent
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of Hamas's budget comes from Iran. Hesbela more than ninety
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: percent of Hesbela's budget comes from Iran. Iran, when the
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  Speaker 2: Iatola chance death to America and death to Israel, he
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  Speaker 2: means it. They have spent millions of millionions of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: They have killed thousands of American servicemen and women. They
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  Speaker 2: have been the leading state sponsor of terrorism for decades.
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  Speaker 2: And after this, look, Iran has had a really rough year.
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  Speaker 2: October seventh. They funded October seventh and since October seventh,
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  Speaker 2: Hamas has been utterly decimated. Hesbela has been utterly decimated.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But shar Asad, who was their puppet leader in Syria,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: he has fallen. The Huthis who they were funding, who
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: were attacking American ships and shipping through the Suez Canal,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they are badly degraded. And now Iran, when they were
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons. Look, if you're
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the Ayatola and you're weak and you're collapsing. Getting a
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  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon is you're hail Mary. It's the one chance
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, we're relevant, we're strong. And then Israel
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: devastatingly takes out their military capability, their air defenses. The
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  Speaker 2: entire course of this war, the Twelve Day War, Iran
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: had no control over their air defenses. Israel had totally superiority.
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  Speaker 2: And then the United States when we went in and
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  Speaker 2: did our bombing run, Iran could not defend themselves. And
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: then America comes in. I think Iran believed they could talk, talk,
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  Speaker 2: talk and avoid any real consequences. I think they felt
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that Forida was deep enough under a mountain there was
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  Speaker 2: nothing they could do about it, and that America would
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: never use bunker buster bombs against him. And by the way,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden never would have. The Democrats never would have.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But Donald J. Trump, he's not an isolationist, he's not weak,
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  Speaker 2: he's not interested in a prolonged war. Note, we did
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  Speaker 2: not invade Iran, we did not send boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going there trying to turn them into a
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  Speaker 2: democratic utopia. We're not trying to turn them into Switzerland.
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  Speaker 2: The objective of the mission was very, very focused. It
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: was to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons capability. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, Ben, the reason I went on Tucker
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Carlson just a week ago was to make clear that
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: President Trump is right and Tucker Carlson was wrong. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I think I was unhappy with Tucker because he's been
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: attacking President Trump. He said that President Trump was complicit
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: in the attack on Iran. He claimed amazingly enough, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was not America first, that if you attack Iran,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you're not America first. And President Trump quite rightly came
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: back and said, look, I invented the damn term, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: what I say is what America first is. And he
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: said to Tucker, he said, look, if you want i
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Ran to have a nuclear weapon, that ain't America first,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: because these lunatics want to kill us. President Trump is
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: exactly right, and this has been I'll tell you. I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: texted him this week and I told him, mister President,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this past week has been the single finest leadership you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: have had the entire time, and I'm incredibly proud of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the job you're doing, his commander in chief.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the comparing contrasts that you talk
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: about with these this administration in the past was brought
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: up at the White House Press briefing room. Carolyn Levitt,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I think did a great job of explaining the difference,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: very much like you just described it. And here's what
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: she said to the press about the real story here.
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  Speaker 6: Gani and regime was weeks away from being able to
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  Speaker 6: produce a nuclear weapon that would threaten the entire world
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: before President Trump took this decisive action on Saturday night
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: to obliterate their nuclear capabilities. The contrast and leadership could
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: not be more clear. Barack Obama and Joe Biden sent
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  Speaker 6: palettes of cash American taxpayer dollars in a failed attempt
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: to buy the Iranian regime's compliance with a weak and
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: ineffective deal. President Trump sent a fleet of American warplanes
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: to destroy Ouran's ability to produce a nuclear weapon. The
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: United States and the entire world are safer because of
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: this President's decisiveness. Despite agenda driven leaks by the fake
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: news media aimed at undermining this incredible accomplishment achieved by
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: President Trump and our brave fighter pilots, there is broad
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: consensus emerging already that Iran's nuclear capabilities were indeed destroyed.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: The United States, Israel, the United Nations, and even Iran
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: all agree they can no longer build a nuclear weapon.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: So what did the president? Why did the president immediately
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: turn to obliterating after the Iranian nuclear threat? Securing peace?
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Within forty eight hours of the devastating strike, President Trump
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: and his team broke her to historic ceasefire between Israel
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: and Iran and officially ended the twelve day war. The
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Middle East is now shifting away from chaos and bloodshed
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: and moving toward the beginning stages of a new era
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: of peace and stability that President Trump has long called
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: on them to achieve. This was unthinkable at this time
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: last week. And this is what peace through strength looks like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just laying it out right to their faces, right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This is what the President said, this is what he believed,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this is what he was gonna do. We're not back down.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And she also said something else that also the dard
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: said several different ways, how dare you not just give
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: some accolades the men and women that risk their lives
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  Speaker 1: to pull this off and did it flawlessly?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 2: Peace through strength is exactly what this is. And the
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Left that they have a bizarre view that weakness and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: appeasement somehow avoids war. Listen, if you look through history,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the opposite is true. Weakness and appeasement encourages our enemies.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: They engage in more hostilities, you get more war. I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have joked, but there is a reason nobody goes and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: studies at the Neville Chamberlain School of Foreign Affairs. Appeasement
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't work. Donald J. Trump is a strong commander in
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: chief just like Ronald Reagan was. And I'll tell you
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: your family and my family, all of our families are
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: safer because President Trump act decisively to take out Iran's
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons capability.
• 30:04
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