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Michael Ealy, Matt Barnes, Tisha Holman & Eddie Ghabour · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: money making conversations. My next test, he's on the phone.
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Speaker 1: One of my favorite actors. He served as an executive
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Speaker 1: producer and start on one of my popular a very
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Speaker 1: popular movie called for Sony called The Perfect Guy, which
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Speaker 1: opened number one at the box office when I work
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Speaker 1: with him, executive produced the movie. Very popular movie. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody knows was thinking like a man and think
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Speaker 1: like a man too, And you're starting about last Night,
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Speaker 1: and action vampire movie Underworld Summer Underworld Guy. You know
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Speaker 1: if you know Underworld, Underworld Awaken, he was in there.
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Speaker 1: I was like, man, he an Underworld Awaken, That's my movie.
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Speaker 1: His television credits include The Good Wife, Common Law, Almost Human,
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Speaker 1: which I really loved that was on Fox, and Sleeper Sale,
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Speaker 1: which is on Showtime Networks. Another one of those movies.
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Speaker 1: Seriously I really like. And he was nominated for a
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Speaker 1: Golden Globe Award. He was on the show today discussed
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Speaker 1: several projects in TV and film, including a Sony thriller,
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Speaker 1: The Intruder Optics. My man Dennis Quaid. He's a Texan,
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Speaker 1: That's why I called him my man. I'm in Houston, Texans.
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Speaker 1: And Megan good which his theaters may three, please welcome
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Speaker 1: to money making conversations. My man Michael Eally really really
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Speaker 1: good man. So what did I always like about? To Michael,
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Speaker 1: you keep a low key personality, but you can do
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Speaker 1: so many different roles. How does how does that? How
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Speaker 1: does that work? You know? You know a good question.
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Speaker 1: I think for me, I think if you live your
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Speaker 1: life out loud, it's really hard to to slip into characters.
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Speaker 1: Um that are, you know, kind of intricate and unique
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Speaker 1: and it's it's I always say that, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: important to take breaks and to kind of live life
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Speaker 1: a little bit so that when you try to reflect life, uh,
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Speaker 1: you have something to draw from, you know. I think
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Speaker 1: in this climate right now, everybody's just obsessed with social
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Speaker 1: media and everything and putting it out there all the time,
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Speaker 1: putting their lives out there all the time. That you know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to step back and actually live
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Speaker 1: and it just observed for a little while. And because
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Speaker 1: it's my job to kind of observe life and then
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Speaker 1: turn around and and reflected on the screen. For me,
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Speaker 1: I just have to live a little bit differently. In
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Speaker 1: addition to the fact that I'm pretty much probably one
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Speaker 1: of the few private people in this busio very true
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Speaker 1: because social media. I had the social media wouldn't you
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Speaker 1: want a big social media guy? When I first met you?
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Speaker 1: And I was not, no. I Uh, that was a
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Speaker 1: funny conversation because I I we sat down and I
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Speaker 1: just we talked about social media. Why did you resist
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Speaker 1: to social media? And how are you using social media
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Speaker 1: to your advantage now? Because you're private, That's one thing
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Speaker 1: about you. You really yeah, you really are if you can,
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Speaker 1: if you've ever around him, He's not a guy that's
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Speaker 1: gonna seek out a party, gonna seek out publicity. He's
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Speaker 1: on the red carpet because he's there for that movie.
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Speaker 1: He's that type of guy. Now your social media, You've
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Speaker 1: got a million followers on Instagram. Mm hmm. You know,
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Speaker 1: um first and foremosts. I think I got more. I
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Speaker 1: just think they won't whatever, they won't they crease my
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Speaker 1: numbers because it is what it is. But that being said,
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Speaker 1: he never thought I'd say that, so you know, um, no, listen,
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Speaker 1: you know when we sat down, I think there was
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Speaker 1: a fear on my part of feeling like the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: the whole structure of blueprint of social media is about
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Speaker 1: approval from me. You know, when you get likes and
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Speaker 1: followers and all of that stuff. I've just lived my
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Speaker 1: life and I've kind of lived through my career in
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Speaker 1: a position where I never really wanted to need that.
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Speaker 1: There's something disturbing about needing followers and needing likes in
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Speaker 1: that sense of approval, and I think, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can see it with what's happening to the youth. You know,
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Speaker 1: suicide rates are up and cyber believing is up, and
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Speaker 1: we're raising a generation of kids right now who seek
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Speaker 1: approval and not just from their inner circle. They seek
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Speaker 1: approval from the public, right. And when I grew up,
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Speaker 1: that wasn't you know your inner circle was? Was it right? Right?
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Speaker 1: That was that was it? It was your friends, you know.
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Speaker 1: But now I think there's something you know and perhaps
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Speaker 1: clinically wrong with seeking public approval. Seven it really is,
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Speaker 1: it really is. And I think that, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: like I have a daughter, she's in college, and she
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Speaker 1: lives a life on her phone and I and I
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Speaker 1: constantly pull off of it just in conversation. I make
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Speaker 1: her watch the news that the news is reality. That
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Speaker 1: was the news is reality. I don't know what's on
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Speaker 1: that phone. It's not because you know, the people go
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Speaker 1: on these phones and google health cares for cancer and
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Speaker 1: all types of illnesses because they think and it could
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Speaker 1: be written by a grandma and idahope, and you think
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Speaker 1: that's that's legitimate. And that's why you really say that
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Speaker 1: that the character of understanding what's going on, you have
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Speaker 1: to live your life and you keep it structured. Now
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Speaker 1: when I when I when I say that you know,
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Speaker 1: like I said, he wasn't Underworld. You know, you played
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Speaker 1: a policeman in that. Then you you can do comedy,
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Speaker 1: you know, and then you can be a Violet, you know,
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Speaker 1: a stalking type character. Then you could be suave. Could
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Speaker 1: come on, Mike, that's a lot, man, that's a lot
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Speaker 1: I can might I Mike can do just the angry guy.
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Speaker 1: That's me, Rissell, I could do angry. But how are
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Speaker 1: you doing all these roles? Man? What are you? What? What?
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Speaker 1: What are you? What? Is? What's prepping you to be
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Speaker 1: able to pull these different characters off? Honestly, your Sean,
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Speaker 1: like what you're saying right now is probably the highest
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Speaker 1: compliment you can give me, right, and that if you
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Speaker 1: tell me I can play all of these characters in
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Speaker 1: a credible way. That was That was the goal that
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Speaker 1: I set for myself when I got started. I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to just be especially with the way that I look.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to just be, you know, this romantic
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Speaker 1: leading man for the rest of my career. I didn't
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Speaker 1: if I if I didn't love acting, perhaps I could
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Speaker 1: have just made a living doing that, right, But for me,
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Speaker 1: it's about stepping into different people's shoes and circumstances. When
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Speaker 1: I did for Color Girls, you know, for me that
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Speaker 1: was that was massive because it gave me the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to step into the shoes of someone who on the
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Speaker 1: surface seems like the worst person in the world. But
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Speaker 1: in truth, you know, everybody has I'm not saying everybody
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Speaker 1: has an excuse, but the character of both really in
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Speaker 1: and and for Colored Girls, he was suffering from PTSD.
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Speaker 1: In the commentary of that is what are we doing
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Speaker 1: with our veterans? Because sending people to wars seems like
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Speaker 1: a great idea and a very valiant thing to do,
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Speaker 1: but what are the consequences, the real life consequences that
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Speaker 1: are affecting the soldiers that are going there and the
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Speaker 1: secondary PTSD which is affected their families and their caretakers
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Speaker 1: when they come home. And so for me, it was
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Speaker 1: not you know, what I do is also an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to kind of shed light on what's really going on.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I just never really wanted to just
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Speaker 1: sit back and kind of, you know, play one character.
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Speaker 1: If that was the case, I would have been still
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Speaker 1: playing Ricky from Barbershop right now, right right, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Almost human? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, play
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Speaker 1: to android and that you know that that and that
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Speaker 1: that's that to me is like the one job that
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Speaker 1: kind of got away from me because I mean, obviously
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Speaker 1: they canceled it, but I really like the commentary of
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Speaker 1: that one because ultimately, you know, here I am playing
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Speaker 1: an android who's facing discrimination. It's like, got it. I
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Speaker 1: can cap into this. I know, I know a whole
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Speaker 1: species of people who can tap into this. Switch a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Because you got another project that's coming down
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Speaker 1: called Jacob's Ladder right now, you would be executive producing
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Speaker 1: that project. What happens when you put the hat on
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Speaker 1: the executive producer hat on? Oh? Good question. Um. First
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Speaker 1: of all, um, you finally have some say. And as
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Speaker 1: an actor, a lot of people don't understand as actors
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Speaker 1: were typically just worked for higher people, right, And in
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Speaker 1: the last decade or so, more actors have become more
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Speaker 1: involved and invested in their careers by producing. And the
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Speaker 1: beautiful thing about producing is that you're not just being
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Speaker 1: told what to do. You have input regarding story development, casting,
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Speaker 1: um uh, promotion, release. So it's basically you start to
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Speaker 1: learn how to make your baby your baby. You learn
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Speaker 1: how to really make it your baby and I will
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Speaker 1: say that if I'm gonna bank on anyone, I'd rather
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Speaker 1: bank on myself. And and that's you know, in the
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Speaker 1: hard work that I'm gonna put in in terms of
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Speaker 1: story development and and all of that. And I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you don't have to work with people.
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Speaker 1: You do. You have to work with, you know, P
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Speaker 1: and A people and make sure because they're they're the
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Speaker 1: experts at what they do. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: you're not just being kind of told what to do.
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Speaker 1: And that was the way it was for many Manion years.
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Speaker 1: And now actors have an active say in what, you know,
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Speaker 1: how a movie is promoted, the storyline, all of that,
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Speaker 1: all of that is big is better for us now
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Speaker 1: and that makes you feel good because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that he's absolutely right. Uh. I've been a sitcom writer,
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Speaker 1: I've done talk shows, I've done everything until you put
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Speaker 1: on that producer title. Yeah, and actively you you really
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Speaker 1: just come on the set. No, no, you can do
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Speaker 1: the worry about that line. We got you. We're changed
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Speaker 1: the lines, and you this is what you're gonna say tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: You know that this is what you're gonna say, and
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Speaker 1: you know this is the funny part. They'll tell you, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you can do that line, but they make the movies.
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Speaker 1: When you're executive, do you say you can do that line,
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Speaker 1: your line will make the movie. To make the movie.
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Speaker 1: That's a great way of putting it is. It is
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Speaker 1: a way to be much more assertive. And what I
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Speaker 1: learned from perfect Guy was it actually makes you more
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Speaker 1: invested in promoting the movie. Now, obviously done a bunch
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Speaker 1: of movies with with Will Packer, and you know you
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Speaker 1: end up, you know, promoting the movie a lot anyway.
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Speaker 1: But well he learned from that is you're much more
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Speaker 1: it's it's it makes so much more sit than you
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Speaker 1: for having me on your show. Well, it's good seen
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Speaker 1: you see on TV all the time and you know
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Speaker 1: my you know, good looking guy. I guess that's why
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Speaker 1: to keep you on TV or you're a smart guy.
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Speaker 1: What you want for debate is not the debate with
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Speaker 1: your wife because she married you and your son is
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Speaker 1: happy because they're good looking at young men too. How
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Speaker 1: you doing to that you're the state of Delaware? Delaware?
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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a tax state? Uh? Did these
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Speaker 1: charge income tax in the state of Delaware. It's a
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Speaker 1: it's a tax free state. Yes, there is income tax
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Speaker 1: on in Delaware, but there's no sales tax and their
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Speaker 1: property taxes are very very low in the state of Delaware.
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Speaker 1: And in the area that I live in, which is
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Speaker 1: uh Lewis Beach area, is becoming one of the fastest
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Speaker 1: growing areas per capita in the country for retirees because
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Speaker 1: of how low the cost of living is. So we're
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Speaker 1: getting a ton of people from New York, New Jersey,
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Speaker 1: Connecticut uh DC area that are actually moving to the
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Speaker 1: small state of Delaware for those economic reasons. Now, what
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Speaker 1: benefit what what? What? How would that benefit the state
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Speaker 1: of Delaware. An older population coming into the state of
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Speaker 1: Delaware like that well, one of the biggest things that
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Speaker 1: helps Delaware is when a lot of the real estate
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Speaker 1: transactions brings a tremendous amount of revenue to the state
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Speaker 1: of Delaware because they charge a transfer tax of four
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Speaker 1: percent uh for every property that's spot or sold. You
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Speaker 1: can imagine with all the people moving to the state
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Speaker 1: of Delaware. Uh, those transactions do generate quite a bit
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Speaker 1: of revenue. And they tax the pensions at the state
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Speaker 1: the state of Delaware. Okay, that's how you're working. So,
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Speaker 1: my friend, I read your book and jarred the book.
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Speaker 1: But one of the big takeaways I got from the
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Speaker 1: book was it you really I think I've a clear
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Speaker 1: understand how to balance your family and your professional life.
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Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is exactly correct? And I haven't always.
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Speaker 1: I didn't always have that perspective. When I first got
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Speaker 1: into business twenty years ago, I was just so focused
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Speaker 1: on my career and uh frankly accumulating a uh strong
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Speaker 1: net worth that I did not have a balance in
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Speaker 1: my life. And then I started getting coaching, professional coaching
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Speaker 1: on myself for my business and my personal life, and
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Speaker 1: it was a game changer. Not only do I have
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Speaker 1: more balance, but my income and net worth went up.
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Speaker 1: It was crazy how it works. But yes, so I
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Speaker 1: to have that balance in life, because, to be blunt,
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Speaker 1: I've met a lot of wealthy people who are miserable
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Speaker 1: and During Retirement. Um, I really appreciate you saying that
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Speaker 1: about it, because I I struggle with having a balanced life.
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Speaker 1: I just druve I success was my priority. So when
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Speaker 1: I when I meet a young man like you who
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Speaker 1: figured it out, you know I didn't figure it out
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Speaker 1: at your age, So congratulations. I would do a lot
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Speaker 1: of health and mentoring for sure. Yeah. And it really is.
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Speaker 1: And also I guess you have to trust yourself too.
19:35
Speaker 1: I think trust is involved in that process too, because
19:38
Speaker 1: it's about not wanting to miss out on an opportunity
19:41
Speaker 1: or feeling that you will miss it on the opportunity
19:43
Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't stay committed, if you
19:45
Speaker 1: don't stay on the grind. So when you say mentoring,
19:48
Speaker 1: and the degree of maturity and acceptance of your role
19:52
Speaker 1: with your family, and well it's your business because you
19:54
Speaker 1: have a business partner who also trust you as well.
19:56
Speaker 1: We get we'll get into that in a minute, but
19:59
Speaker 1: I just want to just to just expound a little
20:01
Speaker 1: bit more on that that balanced life because because you
20:03
Speaker 1: mentioned it in your book. You know, your your pictures
20:05
Speaker 1: of your your families. In the book you talk about
20:08
Speaker 1: your two sons and your book, and that is amidst
20:11
Speaker 1: all the great information you talk about UH and finances
20:15
Speaker 1: and how to balance yourself and get ready for retirement
20:18
Speaker 1: as well as living the current life that you have now.
20:20
Speaker 1: But that that that really stood out for me, and
20:22
Speaker 1: I thought I wanted to let you expound just a
20:25
Speaker 1: little bit more on that. How did you figure it out?
20:27
Speaker 1: You know? Well, you know I figured it out, like
20:30
Speaker 1: I said, when I when I got some coaching and
20:32
Speaker 1: talking about balance, and I actually talked to some really
20:35
Speaker 1: successful people that told me that when they started to
20:38
Speaker 1: focus more on a balance, that they actually were more
20:41
Speaker 1: productive at work, and that productiveness when they were there.
20:45
Speaker 1: So maybe per hour every week, we're not working as
20:48
Speaker 1: many hours as we were in the beginning. When we're
20:50
Speaker 1: trying to grind and not miss out on opportunities. To
20:53
Speaker 1: your point, and I used to always think, well, if
20:56
Speaker 1: I'm not in my office grinding my competition is I'm
21:00
Speaker 1: losing out an opportunity. And what I found out was
21:03
Speaker 1: by having more balance in my life, I did not.
21:07
Speaker 1: I was more productive working less hours. And I know
21:09
Speaker 1: it's hard for someone to conceptually think about that, but
21:12
Speaker 1: you're sharper, you're happier, and that shows you'll have opportunities
21:17
Speaker 1: that come across your desk that you probably would not
21:21
Speaker 1: have seen otherwise because you were blinded by other things.
21:24
Speaker 1: And I think as a father, one of the biggest
21:27
Speaker 1: rewards is watching my kids grow and trying to raise
21:31
Speaker 1: them in a way that will be proud of them
21:34
Speaker 1: and give them security and success, not just financially, but
21:39
Speaker 1: as a family. You know, there's many people that probably
21:42
Speaker 1: look back at their business careers and say, boy, I
21:45
Speaker 1: wish I would not have missed my son's football game
21:48
Speaker 1: baseball game due to that meeting. And so I made
21:50
Speaker 1: their priority. My clients understand it. I work my business
21:54
Speaker 1: schedule around my kids schedule. I coached them in football,
21:57
Speaker 1: I coached them in baseball. I do not miss any
22:00
Speaker 1: of their trips at school. And frankly, I take that
22:04
Speaker 1: same family approach with our clients, and our clients know
22:07
Speaker 1: that when they come, if we take them on as
22:09
Speaker 1: a client, that they're going to get that same treatment
22:11
Speaker 1: as if they are family, because family is my top
22:14
Speaker 1: priority and hopefully the goal long term is it will
22:17
Speaker 1: mold my kids into being good people and successful as
22:21
Speaker 1: well too. That as well, said my friend, let's talk
22:25
Speaker 1: about you figuring it out at such a young age
22:28
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty two. Uh, potential is where
22:31
Speaker 1: you was employed by your current business partner, Doug, and
22:35
Speaker 1: then two years later he decided to make you a
22:38
Speaker 1: business point. Yes, I always joke with him and said, boy,
22:43
Speaker 1: your family and friends probably thought you were nuts to
22:46
Speaker 1: trust someone in their early twenties with only two years
22:48
Speaker 1: of experience to be a full business partner. Um to lose,
22:53
Speaker 1: and I did. I didn't have a dime to my name,
22:56
Speaker 1: I did not have kids or a wife, so to me,
23:00
Speaker 1: I had no idea the risk that I was taking
23:03
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23:05
Speaker 1: not gonna have any paycheck unless I generate it myself.
23:08
Speaker 1: But frankly, because of that trust he put in me.
23:12
Speaker 1: It put a lot of pressure on myself and my
23:15
Speaker 1: drive was to make sure that he did not look
23:17
Speaker 1: like he made a foolish decision. So my business partner,
23:20
Speaker 1: Doug Ferris, is one of the greatest human beings I've
23:23
Speaker 1: ever met. He's like a big brother to me, and
23:28
Speaker 1: we have been working together for twenty years and I
23:32
Speaker 1: think looking back now, has risk hopefully he feels has
23:35
Speaker 1: paid off and it's just been a wonderful business relationship
23:40
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23:43
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23:45
Speaker 1: lots of challenges that you face on a weekly, monthly,
23:48
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23:51
Speaker 1: not only a good staff, but in my scenario, a
23:54
Speaker 1: business partner that I can talk to openly uh and
23:57
Speaker 1: has mentored me because he's nineteen years older than I am.
24:01
Speaker 1: I owe a tremendous a tremendous amount of credit to
24:04
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24:08
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24:11
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24:13
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24:15
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24:19
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24:22
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24:25
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24:28
Speaker 1: what do you think the qualities I'm sure you've discussed this,
24:31
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24:34
Speaker 1: What do you think the qualities that he saw in
24:36
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24:40
Speaker 1: I think what he saw in me as my drive
24:42
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24:45
Speaker 1: he had a saying and they're saying was refused to lose,
24:49
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24:51
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24:55
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24:57
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25:04
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25:08
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25:15
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25:18
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25:21
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25:24
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25:26
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25:27
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25:31
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25:33
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25:35
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Speaker 1: and Go Ye Into the world Wide Web. Please Welcome
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30:28
Speaker 1: Go ye into all the world Wide Where? What does
30:33
Speaker 1: that mean? What does that mean? Go ye? Because we're
30:36
Speaker 1: only world wide where we're out there. There's just struggling
30:38
Speaker 1: in the world Wide Web. Sometimes I don't know what
30:40
Speaker 1: we're doing in there and giving that information we shouldn't
30:43
Speaker 1: be giving out that there. Why did you write that book?
30:47
Speaker 1: So Going into All the world Wide Web was really
30:49
Speaker 1: inspired by Mark descriptions. Things have taken on a new
30:56
Speaker 1: connotation when it comes to going into all the world
31:00
Speaker 1: to spread the gospel to every creature. If ministries are
31:03
Speaker 1: going to make an impact on the next generation, they're
31:06
Speaker 1: gonna have to change the way they seek to reach
31:09
Speaker 1: them in today's digital marketplace. And so I wrote Goggie
31:13
Speaker 1: into All the world Wide Web to help ministries develop
31:17
Speaker 1: strengths and practical application from the tangibles that are required
31:21
Speaker 1: to do the work. You need people, you need resources,
31:24
Speaker 1: you need tools, you need a plan. But also to
31:27
Speaker 1: help them keep in mind that for a ministry, the
31:30
Speaker 1: deliberables are a little bit different than they are in
31:33
Speaker 1: the world. Because they're deliberable is winning an impacting souls
31:36
Speaker 1: for the kingdom. And so I also discussed principles that
31:40
Speaker 1: ministries can use to keep the main thing the main thing,
31:42
Speaker 1: which is reaching God's people as they apply the practical
31:45
Speaker 1: to the work. Wow, so you I know you did
31:49
Speaker 1: a big project with Bishop T. D. Jake's correct. Yes, yes, yes,
31:54
Speaker 1: I need to look at the Potter's House explain to
31:56
Speaker 1: explain that your involvement in its project, the Sore Project. Well, so,
32:01
Speaker 1: I used to be a part of the digital marketing
32:03
Speaker 1: social media team with the Potter's House. And while I
32:07
Speaker 1: was with the Potter's House, I had the pleasure to
32:10
Speaker 1: be a part of developing digital strategy and campaigns um
32:13
Speaker 1: that went behind promoting his last book or as well
32:17
Speaker 1: as other projects that he did the movie with Lifetime
32:20
Speaker 1: UM being various projects on TV and UM the Word
32:25
Speaker 1: UH Network, and so you know, it was really awesome
32:27
Speaker 1: opportunity of great experience to be able to propel some
32:31
Speaker 1: of those campaigns that went around the world a couple
32:34
Speaker 1: of times, touching hearts and wining souls for God. It's
32:37
Speaker 1: one of my favorite books. I had him on the
32:38
Speaker 1: show last year when it came out and he was
32:40
Speaker 1: doing the big event in Atlanta, and so when he
32:43
Speaker 1: did my show, I was told him I was very impressed.
32:45
Speaker 1: One of the better written books about how to get
32:48
Speaker 1: your life together, because you know, I didn't know as
32:51
Speaker 1: much that his family was as much entrepreneurs as the
32:56
Speaker 1: were that was exposed to be in that book. That
32:58
Speaker 1: really made the difference on how I looked at him,
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Speaker 1: because they told me where he got his drive from.
33:03
Speaker 1: You know, because everybody sees him as a minister and
33:06
Speaker 1: so and then and then you can get pigeonholed into
33:09
Speaker 1: that being a minister. But when you read that book, Sore,
33:12
Speaker 1: it really lets you understand where his values are and
33:15
Speaker 1: why you should actually listen to this young man when
33:17
Speaker 1: you're talking about entrepreneurship, because he his whole structure from
33:22
Speaker 1: his mom and dad was built on entrepreneurship, right right, right.
33:27
Speaker 1: It was a great book for sure. Let's talk about
33:29
Speaker 1: you because you have a book that you're gonna do
33:30
Speaker 1: a book signing this Saturday at Jones Creek Book and
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33:47
Speaker 1: Why are you a John's Creek bookstore? Just asking because
33:50
Speaker 1: guess what, I want to drive as many people there,
33:52
Speaker 1: because are you in other places around the country? Are
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Speaker 1: just Saturday year at this location? May fourth. So I'm
33:58
Speaker 1: actually a California native. I just live in Dallas right now, Okay,
34:03
Speaker 1: And so yes, and so before I lived in Dallas,
34:05
Speaker 1: I lived in Atlanta for a while. And so as
34:08
Speaker 1: I am touring spreading the word about the social media
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Speaker 1: makeover and about go ye into all the world Wide Web,
34:14
Speaker 1: you know, some of the first stops on my book
34:17
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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm coming back home to the a
34:22
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34:26
Speaker 1: folks there, because I know that the information I have
34:29
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34:33
Speaker 1: elevate and amplify what they do online. Really, it's really
34:36
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34:38
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34:42
Speaker 1: use the word niche marketing, niche audience out there that
34:45
Speaker 1: you have to really tap into if you're trying to
34:47
Speaker 1: find that crowd, And that's what you're saying that you
34:50
Speaker 1: can make available with your book Go Ye into all
34:53
Speaker 1: the world. Why Well, is that focusing focusing on your audience,
34:58
Speaker 1: focusing on your audists, and finding your artist through the
35:01
Speaker 1: through the way of in social media, that's what you're saying. Well, definitely,
35:05
Speaker 1: and it goes to what I talk about how organizations
35:09
Speaker 1: need to position themselves to become a brand and demand.
35:12
Speaker 1: Great brands are the answer to somebody's problem. And they're
35:15
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35:18
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35:21
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35:23
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35:26
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35:29
Speaker 1: as well. And there are some commonalities that I see
35:32
Speaker 1: in helping smaller congregations all the way everything in between,
35:36
Speaker 1: all the way up to the mega church, and I
35:38
Speaker 1: helped other megachurches as well. Besides the Potter's House, is
35:41
Speaker 1: that there is an untapped, missed opportunity that ministries have
35:47
Speaker 1: to really leverage what the content that they're sitting on
35:50
Speaker 1: and really what the power of their ministry is to
35:53
Speaker 1: go out and reach people. And so I want to
35:55
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35:57
Speaker 1: want to be able to stand in that gap between
36:01
Speaker 1: ministries reaching people and growing their ministries through their digital platforms.
36:06
Speaker 1: And I really know and believe that go into all
36:08
Speaker 1: the World Wide Web is the ticket to standing in
36:12
Speaker 1: the gap and helping ministries change how they reach solved. Well,
36:15
Speaker 1: that's what I struggled with. I've struggled with that. I've
36:17
Speaker 1: struggled with with trying to identify who I am with
36:22
Speaker 1: who I'm talking to because of the fact that I
36:25
Speaker 1: have Twitter account, I have a Instagram, a Crown and
36:28
Speaker 1: my largest accounts of my Facebook account, I don't have Snapchat,
36:31
Speaker 1: I do have LinkedIn, So for those are four accounts.
36:34
Speaker 1: Like LinkedIn is my favorite because I used that to
36:37
Speaker 1: really build my brand within the industry. So tell us
36:39
Speaker 1: about each platform and what value does each platform. When
36:42
Speaker 1: I said the platform and talking about LinkedIn, t on Instagram,
36:46
Speaker 1: talk about Twitter, I'm telling on Facebook, what value does
36:48
Speaker 1: that bring to you or to an individual who trying
36:51
Speaker 1: to develop their brand. We'll see. The beauty of the
36:55
Speaker 1: various social media platforms is that it really allows you
36:59
Speaker 1: to speak to your audience in various ways. You may
37:03
Speaker 1: develop a persona a target core client profile, but that
37:07
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that person is only going to hang
37:09
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37:12
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37:16
Speaker 1: like to receive content. So I may be your target client,
37:19
Speaker 1: but I may lean on Instagram or lean on LinkedIn
37:22
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37:26
Speaker 1: over links to articles, different things like that. And this
37:29
Speaker 1: is where happen that strategy comes in because every platform
37:33
Speaker 1: has value. I run into a lot of businesses who
37:36
Speaker 1: that they may say, oh, I'm only on Facebook and
37:38
Speaker 1: Twitter because that's where my client is. No, you're missing
37:42
Speaker 1: opportunities not putting yourself everywhere you can be. You're missing
37:46
Speaker 1: out on search engine optimization opportunities as well as just
37:50
Speaker 1: tapping into new new potential client basis in various places.
37:55
Speaker 1: So we know that linked In is a more B
37:57
Speaker 1: two B platform, So that's a great so you to
38:00
Speaker 1: connect with others in your industry and strengthen and develop
38:03
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38:08
Speaker 1: anything that you're posting on Instagram is going to have
38:10
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38:16
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38:20
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38:23
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38:28
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38:31
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38:35
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38:39
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39:41
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39:57
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45:48
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45:51
Speaker 1: all that they tell? Because I have a beard and
45:52
Speaker 1: a mustache. Yeah, So I was just someone who's always
45:57
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46:00
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46:02
Speaker 1: of really tried to always present myself, um to the
46:05
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46:08
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46:10
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Speaker 1: me about kind of being an ambassador for their company.
46:14
Speaker 1: And you know, I looked at their products and really
46:16
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46:19
Speaker 1: So I took out an ambassador role. But then also
46:22
Speaker 1: have you know, over the past year kind of taking
46:25
Speaker 1: uh some equity and company as well and really pushing
46:28
Speaker 1: it as it's my own, um, I think the men's
46:30
Speaker 1: grooming space is a really an untapped market. Um. I
46:33
Speaker 1: feel that, you know, as men, we care about our parents,
46:36
Speaker 1: but it's kind of not manly to speak on it.
46:39
Speaker 1: So we're trying to, you know, start restart that conversation.
46:41
Speaker 1: You know, grooming yourself is very important. Um. You know,
46:44
Speaker 1: I have two young tenor old twin boys that you know,
46:46
Speaker 1: I'm teaching them how to become man and giving them
46:48
Speaker 1: at grooming is a big part of that. So we're
46:50
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, restart the conversation that there
46:52
Speaker 1: has had several years ago when our when our fathers
46:54
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46:56
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46:58
Speaker 1: been lost of late. So we're trying to restart that conversation.
47:01
Speaker 1: When you say that, is that from the standpoint of
47:03
Speaker 1: an athlete, because casual wear it took over you know
47:06
Speaker 1: where you know, wearing a suit and easter suit, all
47:09
Speaker 1: that stuff kind of went out the window. Are you
47:11
Speaker 1: talking about trying to elerate that game? Well, you know
47:14
Speaker 1: you're sawing come out there with a suit or just
47:15
Speaker 1: like dad with a little three a little vast a
47:18
Speaker 1: little tie. I think, I think that it's a while
47:21
Speaker 1: and then I think the coast of course of my career,
47:24
Speaker 1: I want to say, uh, you know, mid two thousands,
47:26
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47:29
Speaker 1: a different type of dress code, you know, really bringing
47:31
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47:33
Speaker 1: most party and being more business attire. Um. And I
47:37
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47:39
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47:42
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a copycast situation from that standpoint.
47:44
Speaker 1: But I'm both you know, off the court, I'm very
47:46
Speaker 1: you know, sweat suits in shorts, um, but also like
47:50
Speaker 1: to dressed up, you know when the occasion calls sport.
47:53
Speaker 1: Well it's really cool because you know, I'm a big
47:55
Speaker 1: fan of the NBA, and I see the it's a
47:57
Speaker 1: big deal, not just to see the players in it,
47:59
Speaker 1: just into the arena. You know, it's almost like a
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48:04
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48:12
Speaker 1: it up. So so what what's your fashion? What's your
48:15
Speaker 1: fashion moment? There? Sir? That well, what what's what? What's
48:17
Speaker 1: your style? They're bad? What style that you bring to
48:19
Speaker 1: the tape? Um? Like I said, I'm in between. I
48:22
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48:25
Speaker 1: I I do enjoy putting on suits from time to time,
48:28
Speaker 1: but for the most part, I just you know, I
48:29
Speaker 1: really like to be cleaned up and present myself. Well,
48:32
Speaker 1: I don't do it as much now that I'm retired,
48:34
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48:37
Speaker 1: kids and I focus on this business. But when I
48:39
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48:41
Speaker 1: throw a suit on, I definitely enjoy doing that. Now,
48:44
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48:51
Speaker 1: So how because what what? What? Because did you tell
48:54
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48:56
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48:59
Speaker 1: by you and an overseeing by you? I actually have
49:02
Speaker 1: a three person staff. Three other women besides myself kind
49:06
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49:09
Speaker 1: I either invested into or became an equity partner owner
49:13
Speaker 1: and or just stuffed it up. I'm into in general. Um,
49:15
Speaker 1: Like I said, the hume, Uh, men's groom in line.
49:18
Speaker 1: Like I said, I take pride to my appearance. Um,
49:21
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49:24
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49:27
Speaker 1: and something that my kids lived, you know what I mean.
49:29
Speaker 1: And I tell me again like you said, any player
49:33
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49:35
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49:41
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49:43
Speaker 1: harder to get than others. But any current player, by
49:44
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49:48
Speaker 1: and now something my kids really enjoyed. Um. Partnering up
49:51
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49:54
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49:56
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50:47
Speaker 1: everything I said, everything I have my hand and I'm
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Speaker 1: So it's not it's not really worked. It's something I
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51:25
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51:30
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51:33
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51:36
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51:39
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51:41
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51:42
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51:47
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51:50
Speaker 1: I know you've never met me, but I'm just letting
51:51
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51:55
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51:57
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52:00
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52:10
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52:13
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52:15
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52:17
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52:20
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52:23
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52:27
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52:29
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52:33
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52:35
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52:38
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52:41
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