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- 0:00This shit ain't nothing to me, man. to say something
- 0:30like that so I know where to cut things off.
- 0:32And then I can say, boxing before dark. Do you
- 0:37wonder what happened before the cutoff? Man.
- 0:40There's a really special place called Patreon
- 0:42you should go to. LVX Media Net. It's the same
- 0:46as everywhere else. Ooh, shit. Shanada, Lynn.
- 0:51It's, uh, NHL playoff time. How's that going?
- 0:57Ask Lynn what the series is at right now. I don't
- 1:00want to discuss it. I'm facing Game 2 after we're
- 1:04done here, as of the time of recording this.
- 1:08It may not have been the best strategy after
- 1:11the second period, with a one -goal lead to have
- 1:14two shots in an entire period, and therefore
- 1:16blow said lead and then lose in overtime. But
- 1:19we move. Lose in double overtime? Triple overtime?
- 1:24No, it was like 20 seconds to go in the first
- 1:27overtime. How was it? Anyways, I just know McJesus
- 1:31got the assist, so all is right in the world.
- 1:35Yeah, like, four of our guys went to David, and,
- 1:38like, nobody decided to just track Tricycle,
- 1:41who was just wide open at the back, and it's
- 1:43like, haha. And who's fucking good. It's alright,
- 1:47game two. On to the next. Just water under the
- 1:51bridge. Sure. CFL season. Yeah, Riders won the
- 1:59home opener yesterday. But our running back already
- 2:03upper body injury in the first five minutes of
- 2:09play. Garbage. Oh, for anyone who doesn't know,
- 2:13the CFL is the Canadian Football League. The
- 2:15rules are different. And for our international
- 2:18audience, I know there's quite a few of you,
- 2:22they do worldwide tryouts now. So there's guys
- 2:25from around the world on some of the teams. Yeah,
- 2:30I know a lot of big boys come out of like the
- 2:32Eastern Europe. There's like Frenchmen, there's
- 2:37Germans, there's an Australian kicker. They had
- 2:40a Japanese kicker, but he didn't last very long.
- 2:45I think he legitimately had trouble kicking over
- 2:49the linemen. He probably wasn't used to people
- 2:51so tall. Not to be stereotypical, but... I mean,
- 2:56it is what it is, right? Yeah, yeah, but... No,
- 3:01I like the international tryouts. It's fun. So
- 3:05in the CFL, you have to have a certain percentage
- 3:07of Canadians, but the world guys will count towards
- 3:11that percentage. They can't say it, but it's
- 3:13basically a percentage of not Americans. Is that
- 3:17really what it is? Yeah, well, the Americans...
- 3:21um talent pools just way deeper for football
- 3:23okay so they don't want people just having only
- 3:28americans yeah a lot of national leagues are
- 3:31like that like uh i follow for soccer i follow
- 3:35the the city i was that i lived in when i was
- 3:37lived in korea so i keep up with that team and
- 3:40like they have international players but you
- 3:43can only have a certain amount of not Koreans
- 3:46playing at a time. Yeah. It's another strategy
- 3:50thing. We've also got one more man on the field
- 3:54and one less down. I would liken this difference,
- 3:57to put it into combat sports terms, the difference
- 4:01between Muay Thai and kickboxing. It's pretty
- 4:04different. They're very similar, but they're
- 4:07also very different. Yeah, the three downs makes
- 4:10a big difference. Yeah, that's a lot. Field's
- 4:14also bigger, too. It's wider and longer. We have
- 4:18a 55 -yard line instead of a 50 -yard line. Oh,
- 4:22shit. If you want to learn a little bit more
- 4:24about Muay Thai and kickboxing. Check out UFC.
- 4:30The ultimate fucking casuals. You gotta put me
- 4:34on when a new Ryzen card's coming up. I want
- 4:38to go to a Ryzen card. Yeah, I've been meaning
- 4:41to keep up with Ryzen. Because someone on the
- 4:46Discord told me there's one coming up in Sapporo,
- 4:48but I'm not flying to Sapporo to go to a Ryzen
- 4:51fight. The last one was in Korea, I think. That
- 4:56sail travel method looks really cool. Yeah, but
- 5:01it's a pretty long plane ride to get to the ferry
- 5:03for me. I have to fly to Fukuoka. Oh, shit. Well,
- 5:08I guess I could train, but even on the bullet
- 5:10train, it's long. I was looking at taking a trip
- 5:14to UK and I wanted to stop in Ireland at some
- 5:18point. And I was like, well, I don't want to
- 5:20fucking fly there. That sounds lame. So I was
- 5:23looking at, there's a ferry from Liverpool to...
- 5:27Nice. I love boats. Yeah. I'd much rather take
- 5:30a ferry. Well, shall we get to it? Yes. Navarrete.
- 5:38His fight is officially no contest. Noted Suarez
- 5:43truthers. Rejoice. I'm a little surprised they
- 5:47changed this one, to be honest. I am too. The
- 5:50fight went for the required amount of time for
- 5:58it to be taken to the cards and be scored. So
- 6:03I don't know why they undid it. Doesn't make
- 6:05sense to me. Well, I guess they decided it was
- 6:08caused by a punch. The cut was caused by a punch
- 6:14and it stopped the fight. So then that would
- 6:17be all the TKO. I think the argument is that
- 6:21at the time he was told it was from a headbutt
- 6:24so he fought different than he would have. He
- 6:27might have gone for the knockout. The doctor
- 6:31might have also not stopped it yet because it
- 6:33was a bad cut but it wasn't Tim Zhu bad. I don't
- 6:39know how I feel about these changing things because
- 6:41of video replay. I'm not really fussed with it.
- 6:48If you can change that one, why the fuck didn't
- 6:51Tate Davis end up with an L? Or at least a no
- 6:54contest. Because he's a bigger name. Yeah, but
- 6:58that's not good. It's one more way they can bring
- 7:03corruption in, right? Well, this is boxing. I'm
- 7:07just saying, I don't know if I fuck with changing
- 7:09things after the fact. If you get it wrong, you
- 7:12get it wrong. Everybody's lived with it until
- 7:15now. Oh, that's an awful segue. Don't say that.
- 7:24Mike McCallum. Who is this and passes away? You
- 7:31don't know who Mike McCallum is? The body snatcher?
- 7:33I might. I'm not sure. He's British, isn't he,
- 7:37Lin? I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard of
- 7:41him, so don't ask me. Really? Okay. Well, I know
- 7:46who heard him. Mike McCallum was really good.
- 7:49He was a really good fighter in the 90s, I want
- 7:52to say. I didn't take any notes. I thought everybody
- 7:56would know who Mike McCallum is. So he has five
- 7:58losses but was never stopped. His nickname was
- 8:01the Body Snatcher because he just... fucking
- 8:05loved body shots and he was real good at them.
- 8:09And he is in the Boxing Hall of Fame. He was
- 8:13inducted in 2003. Yeah. I am confusing him with
- 8:17someone else when I say he was hurt in his last
- 8:19fight. I don't think he was. So he's only five
- 8:23fights? No, no, five losses. Oh, okay. 49 wins,
- 8:29five losses, one draw. Wow. Yeah, he held the
- 8:36three weight classes. I should have looked this
- 8:42up better. He had the super welterweight, middleweight,
- 8:47and light heavyweight titles at different times.
- 8:50And he fought at cruiserweight, but I don't think
- 8:53he ever won a title. His last two fights were
- 8:57losses to Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney. That's
- 9:01quite the pair. But he was at the top. Yeah.
- 9:05Yeah, no, you guys should go look up Mike McCallum.
- 9:08He was real good. Like, not slicks. Slicks, kind
- 9:14of the word. Like, how do you describe Roberto
- 9:16Duran? Like, he was good and talented, but he
- 9:21wasn't flashy, I guess. If you don't know what
- 9:24you're looking at, they look like brawlers. Yes.
- 9:26But they're not. Yeah, I know the type. That's
- 9:29how I feel about Mike McCallum, too. People should
- 9:33go look him up. He's good. Plus, the Body Snatcher
- 9:37is a hell of a nickname. Dillian White was the
- 9:42Body Snatcher? Yeah, he was. But Mike McCallum
- 9:46was the original Body Snatcher. Anyways, he wasn't
- 9:50that old. A little sad that he died youngish.
- 9:55Apparently, he was originally from Jamaica and
- 9:59lived in New York. I had the wrong guy. He's
- 10:01not from the UK. Yes. Also, on the topic of the
- 10:05UK, I was just having a quick look at his box
- 10:07work to see if there's any names I mentioned.
- 10:09And he beat Steve Collins and Michael Watson.
- 10:12So there you go. Bit of the old Brit law. He
- 10:18was just overshadowed by bigger names at the
- 10:22time that were flashier. Like James Toney and
- 10:24Roy Jones. And Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, he had a draw.
- 10:27His draw was with James Toney. And then he lost
- 10:30to him later. RIP to one of the Hall of Famers.
- 10:36Yeah, one of the greats. It sounds like he was
- 10:41a good guy, too. He went into training afterwards
- 10:43and people liked him. That's always good. Easier
- 10:49to mourn someone who was cool. Yeah, exactly.
- 10:54Ah, well, that's speaking of mourning. Lomachenko
- 10:58officially announces his retirement. I don't
- 11:01know if anyone's mourning. It's about fucking
- 11:03time. He's been holding that belt hostage forever.
- 11:07Forever. So Ray Moritaya gets elevated? I like
- 11:12these elevations. Make them fight for it. You
- 11:14don't like email champs? No. Yeah, I prefer text
- 11:20as well. Lomachenko. Man, now that the fever
- 11:28around him has died down. I've been able to appreciate
- 11:32him a lot more just because the fan base was
- 11:35rabid and it was... The fan base was toxic as
- 11:38fuck. It was difficult to deal with. But when
- 11:42he was the Matrix, like that no Moschenko period.
- 11:46That stretch of time. Fucking amazing. Yeah,
- 11:49you can really see the way Bam says that's one
- 11:52of his idols. And you can tell. I think a lot
- 11:58of people idolize Lomachenko for good reason.
- 12:01Yeah. I want to pull up his record because I
- 12:06feel like he didn't do all that much for as much
- 12:11as people liked him. He didn't really fight that
- 12:16long in the pros. No. He only got 21 fights.
- 12:23Yeah. I mean, I'm just looking over his resume.
- 12:28If you actually look at who he's beaten, it's
- 12:31not like anything special. It's not. There's
- 12:33a lot of good names, though. Yeah, but they're
- 12:36not like... I think there is. Pop names, are
- 12:38they? Linares, Rigondeaux. Jose Ramirez in 2013
- 12:43was a good win. Good -ish. Gary Russell Jr. in
- 12:492014, he was good. Nicholas Walters in 2016 was
- 12:54a... excellent win. That absolute fucking ass
- 13:01-kicking he put on Comey. I don't know if it's
- 13:06that good a win, but that was a fucking beatdown.
- 13:11I would put the one above. The one above it would
- 13:14be Cambosos. Because Cambosos got embarrassed.
- 13:20I mean, he always gets embarrassed, but there's
- 13:23no point in him. I mean, he beat some pretty
- 13:30good guys. Yes. So there's one loss for sure
- 13:37that I don't think anybody can really claim.
- 13:41The Salido loss? I was going to say Teofilo.
- 13:44Oh, sorry. I thought you meant that it's controversial.
- 13:48I was going the other way. The Salido loss was
- 13:52not a real loss. That was fucking bullshit. I'm
- 13:56not even a Lomachenko dick rider, but... Was
- 13:59it because he came overweight? The Salido one?
- 14:03Yeah. No, did you watch the fight? I did. Salido
- 14:06was so dirty. Yeah. So dirty. Welcome to the
- 14:10pros, bitch. That's what that was. I'm not some
- 14:14fucking teenager from Estonia that you get to
- 14:19whip up on. Yeah, that's true. Man, that's what
- 14:21I don't... That is one thing I don't like. that
- 14:24I didn't like about the fan base was all this,
- 14:26like, oh, well, he had 5 ,000 amateur fights.
- 14:29I'm like, dude, he was beating up teenage boys.
- 14:33Yeah. That is not the flex that you think it
- 14:35is. It's the opposite of a flex if you stay in
- 14:38the amateurs too long. Yep. I don't know. I don't
- 14:42think Loma is nearly as good as his fans think
- 14:47he is. I don't know if he should be in the Hall
- 14:50of Fame. to be honest. He's gonna get in. But
- 14:52I don't know if he really deserves that. But
- 14:57his talent was there. Like, nobody can deny that
- 15:02no Moschenko was fucking amazing to watch. Yeah,
- 15:06I think that he was limited by being signed to
- 15:09top rank. That's what kept his resume pretty
- 15:13light. As great as the wins were. Or, like, the
- 15:18way he looked in those wins. I should say. But,
- 15:22it is about time he officially left. Yep. Yep.
- 15:30Bye, Lomachenko. See you later. Take your fucking
- 15:34fans with you. Enjoy remaining retired. Yeah.
- 15:38Do you think they're all just gonna jump over
- 15:40to Usyk for his last couple fights? No. No? No.
- 15:46I don't think so. Are they going to become Shakur
- 15:51fans? Absolutely not. There's a particular aspect
- 16:00of Lomachenko that's different from Shakur Stevenson.
- 16:05That's why they wouldn't go from Lomachenko to
- 16:08Stevenson. I know. Yeah. Who is the great white
- 16:13hope right now for slick boxers? There isn't
- 16:16really one, is there? That's what I was going
- 16:18to look up. I can't think of any super slick
- 16:24defensive white guys right now. Kayla Plant was
- 16:28as good as it got. We'll get to that. Yeah, we
- 16:31will. Yeah. Let's see here. Pound for pound.
- 16:38If I say Josh Pappy, am I getting blocked on
- 16:40the spot? Nah. It's clear why you would pick
- 16:46that. There's not. There's not very many white
- 16:49guys on the pound -for -pound list right now.
- 16:51B -Ball would better be it. B -Ball. B -Ball's
- 16:55pretty slick, I guess. Yeah. Also, for some reason,
- 16:59I don't know if they count as white. Depends
- 17:03on how badly you need a white person. I mean,
- 17:04you can pretty clearly tell if you just look
- 17:07at them. Yeah, but B -Ball's half Korean. Aren't
- 17:13Koreans white? No. Anyways. They're Asian. Dangerous
- 17:18territory. They're Asian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carry
- 17:21on. Yeah, moving on. He shone blue weight. Yeah,
- 17:24so this is one I wanted to bring up. As of right
- 17:27now, as of when we're chatting, he has not fought
- 17:31yet. So all we know is that he missed weight
- 17:34by four fucking pounds. Like, dude, you just
- 17:37won that title. That's a lot. Yeah. Did you not
- 17:41ask for the Navarrete special on the scale? What
- 17:45happened here? This is after what's been a pretty
- 17:51eventful week for him where he was beefing with
- 17:54Mason at the Purser and then I'm 30 certain also
- 17:57there was like quotes coming out saying that
- 17:58he wasn't going to fight Moatella and that he
- 18:00basically said that he wasn't going to unify
- 18:02with Moatella. And then like a day later he blows
- 18:05weight. So it's like, okay, bye. What's going
- 18:07on here then? Like, hang on, I can bring that
- 18:11quote up. I'm fairly certain I'm not making this
- 18:13up. I definitely saw it. To say he's not going
- 18:16to fight Abdullah Mason, though, that's... No,
- 18:19it was Murataya. Oh, Murataya. Yeah. That's right.
- 18:23Yeah, he said he wasn't going to unify with him.
- 18:25Why? I don't know. Why would you not do that?
- 18:31Murataya is not that scary. No, he's not. He
- 18:35just does things. He's just, like, really good.
- 18:37At the fundamentals. Yeah, hang on. I brought
- 18:41it up on Twitter. The quote was, why would I
- 18:45want to go pay for another belt when I'm already
- 18:46paying for this belt? And it's like, huh? That
- 18:50makes sense. So in the past day or two, he's
- 18:55basically said that he's not going to unify.
- 18:59He went off at a young prospect and now he's
- 19:02blown weight. So it's been an eventful week for
- 19:04Sean Davis. What I mean by it makes sense is,
- 19:09like, I understand his thinking. Who was it?
- 19:15Mayweather notoriously hated paying sanctioning
- 19:17fees. Canelo, for some reason, does it, but always
- 19:23talks about not liking it. So I get the front,
- 19:27like, why would I want to give up another share
- 19:30of my purse for, like, something symbolic? Like,
- 19:35dude, the symbols... Because it gets you... Bigger
- 19:38purses. It gets you more money. Yeah. Yeah. Like,
- 19:42that's like, why would I want to pay for school
- 19:44to get a raise? Like, fuck off. Yeah. It's your
- 19:49job. Yeah, continued education. Well, like, I
- 19:52know a bunch of people went and got their masters
- 19:54after they had jobs because it bumped their pay
- 19:56a whole bunch. Makes sense. Yeah. Kishan's still
- 20:03young, though. I guess maybe that's a... bad
- 20:05example but like in any trade you have the same
- 20:10thing go get accredited for a new skill yeah
- 20:13right like welder certificates for whatever or
- 20:17not just an academia thing yeah exactly get another
- 20:22world title belt you get paid whatever 20 % more
- 20:27you'll get into the position where you can negotiate
- 20:30with the sanctioning bodies like if let's just
- 20:33uh I'm moving house, so real estate's on my mind
- 20:37at the moment. So the realtor, their fee is 3%.
- 20:41So if that's what the sanctioning body takes
- 20:44out of your purse, then how about you tell them...
- 20:48Negotiate an extra 10. Yeah, I'm giving you 2
- 20:52.5 % and you're going to deal with it. Or I want
- 20:55paid 10 % more and you get 3 % of 10 % higher.
- 21:00Yeah, same slice of a bigger pie. Yeah. whatever
- 21:04the case is. Yeah. Interesting. And going after
- 21:08Abdullah Mason, I... Yeah. Who do I get mad at
- 21:13here? Whose side do I take? I don't really like
- 21:19any of the Davises, to be honest. I might be
- 21:22going with Abdullah on this one. I know, yeah,
- 21:24I know there's a lot of Khashoggi fans over in
- 21:26the Discord, so we'll see. But obviously that
- 21:29belt is now vacant, so... kashawn wins it stays
- 21:33bacon uh and the number one ranking with the
- 21:36wvo because there's no like interim or whatever
- 21:39champ is sam notes and number two is abdullah
- 21:41mason so we're boxing before dark i mean i like
- 21:49both guys so either way i'm happy but still uh
- 21:53please don't make sam notes by abdullah mason
- 21:57oh but that's such that's like mouth -watering
- 22:01It's a good fight, but I know for a fact Nochi's
- 22:03gonna get beat the fuck up. I don't want to see
- 22:05this. When you put it like that. Yeah, I'm not
- 22:11okay with this. We gotta keep rolling here. Fucking
- 22:18recent shit. We skipped this one last time, so
- 22:22here we are. Ohashi in Yokohama. Where is my...
- 22:28Here it is. So I only picked up three of them.
- 22:31I think Tsubasa, was that one that you wanted,
- 22:34Shonato? Yeah, that was actually a really close
- 22:39fight. Really? To get stopped in eight? Yeah,
- 22:44but it was active the whole time and competitive,
- 22:50but clearly I had it backwards in my head. I
- 22:56got to look at their faces. Clearly Narai was
- 23:02better, and he was slowly just breaking down
- 23:05Hara. Yeah. But not in a sad beatdown way, in
- 23:11a like, how the fuck is Hara showing this much
- 23:13heart way? And they stopped it maybe a little
- 23:16too late. But it was a rematch, and it was a
- 23:20good fight. Or, I enjoyed watching it. I'm pretty
- 23:24sure it was a rematch. Yeah. Stopped it late?
- 23:29They probably could have stopped in the sixth.
- 23:32Okay, because with Shigeoki on the mind. Yeah,
- 23:36yeah, yeah. It was not terrible, but clearly
- 23:40Narai was winning. It was a good competitive
- 23:43fight, and I love a rematch. And they both had
- 23:46great fucking walkout costumes. You think they're
- 23:51in league with Mimis? No, different kind of great.
- 24:00Mimi's person, I am 90 % sure is actually super
- 24:04famous. Like, that's why they don't. But I don't
- 24:08think they're a fashion designer. I think they're
- 24:11a super famous cosplayer. Ah. Is my theory that
- 24:17I have no basis for. The other two fights. Takai
- 24:24was the main event, but that was just a round
- 24:27one, like six punches thrown, knockout. Speaking
- 24:30of not competitive, this fight was not. At all.
- 24:35At all. No. I have a theory, though, and it might
- 24:40be completely wrong, but I think they're saving
- 24:43Takai for Nasukawa's first belt attempt. Yeah.
- 24:50Because they're both kickboxers. What? So, Takei
- 24:58fought last week, the week before, and Nasukawa
- 25:02fights this week. I wonder if the next isn't
- 25:05going to be the two of them, depending how Nasukawa
- 25:08looks, my conspiracy theory. Put that on the
- 25:12Inoue, MJ. It'd be big. Yeah. I don't know if
- 25:19they want that one outside the country, though.
- 25:22Where's... Takei Nasakawa in Japan. Yeah, that's
- 25:26huge because it's Japanese kickboxing. Yeah.
- 25:32But the co -main was a much better fight. It's
- 25:40Nunez. Yeah. Versus Masanori Rikishi. Couldn't
- 25:45remember the other guy's name. Nunez won, but
- 25:49Rikishi... tried the whole damn time and it was
- 25:55a good fight it was fun did you watch this one
- 25:58Leo yeah I did um I was I don't remember the
- 26:02Takei fight because like there's not a lot to
- 26:06remember but this one I was I enjoyed all of
- 26:10it uh I remember wondering if if Nunez has enough
- 26:18to stop Rikishi I don't know. Yeah. Like, in
- 26:21the mid -lates. I was like, could you be stepping
- 26:25it up a little bit here? Or are you already doing
- 26:28it? I think Rikishi's just tough. Yeah, you're
- 26:29already doing all you can. And he's too good
- 26:32to be taken out like that. Also, Rikishi looks
- 26:38like a real -life Namor, so I always cheer for
- 26:41him. A real -life what? It was a good fight,
- 26:45though. Namor? Marvel's Aquaman. Ah. Have you
- 26:51seen a picture of him? No. Okay, I gotta Google
- 26:55you a picture of Nate Moore. I always forget
- 26:58how to spell his name. Yeah. Anyways, it was
- 27:04good. I would recommend watching it. Yeah, also
- 27:11check out Takei. I guess. Just to see what's
- 27:15coming up. in the bantamweights. You care about
- 27:19the bantamweights. Everybody should care about
- 27:22the bantamweights. Sorry to jump in here. So
- 27:25Andreas Hale, who is a staff writer at ESPN,
- 27:29while we're recording this pod, has just tweeted,
- 27:32according to sources, the Khashoggi Davis vs.
- 27:34Edwin De Los Santos fight scheduled for tomorrow
- 27:36night is off after the two sides were unable
- 27:39to come to an agreement following Davis' missing
- 27:41weight. Abdullah Mason vs. Jeremiah Nakafila
- 27:44is the new main event. Good. Four pounds is a
- 27:49lot. That is a lot. I do not blame De Los Santos
- 27:54for not wanting to give up four pounds. If that's
- 27:58legit, that fight's off. But the dude works at
- 28:02ESPN, so I would say that's pretty credible.
- 28:06It's probably off. That kind of sucks. Mason
- 28:09now main event, so at least we get something
- 28:12out of it. Yeah. Man, I would have wanted Keyshawn
- 28:17and Abdullah Mason to like each other because
- 28:19I like them both. Anything more for the Ohashi
- 28:22card? No, I don't think so. All right. May 30th,
- 28:26Matchroom. This was on DAZN. Yes. Oh, shit. The
- 28:33main event, just to get it done quickly. Khalil
- 28:35Co beats Manuel Gallegos in five. Yes. It was
- 28:41a corner stoppage. Yes. Did you watch the fight?
- 28:45Did you watch the fight? I did. Yeah. That is
- 28:48one of the worst broken noses with one punch
- 28:52I have ever seen. That was disgusting. Coach
- 28:55Jack just beat him the fuck up for a few rounds
- 28:57and then Guy Eagles got pulled out by his corner.
- 29:00That's all that happened. Good. They should have.
- 29:04That's what they're there for. He had like no
- 29:06answers after like halfway through the fight.
- 29:09like yeah that was the that was the the sentiment
- 29:14i had going into the fourth round i was like
- 29:17what i had i tried to block the screen so i couldn't
- 29:20see if it was a stoppage or not and then i ended
- 29:23up seeing it anyway and i was like okay well
- 29:25we're coming up on round four i didn't know when
- 29:27it was round four like this can't go on much
- 29:29longer can it because somebody somebody the ref
- 29:33the fucking corner. Somebody's got to step in
- 29:36and stop this. Like, the dude's face is being
- 29:38rearranged. And that's... Don't need to see anymore.
- 29:43So, yeah. Khalil Coe gets his revenge. They were
- 29:46saying on the feed that apparently he had some
- 29:48illness going into their first fight, so there's
- 29:51your reason for why he got beaten up that night,
- 29:54I guess. Yeah, they were saying Rabdo, I think,
- 29:58right? I don't recall exactly what they said,
- 30:00but I know for a fact, I'm pretty sure they mentioned
- 30:02he was hospitalized by it or something like that,
- 30:04if I recall correctly. So, yeah, we'll see. But
- 30:08he, I mean, he won using just the jab. So, I
- 30:10mean, at least he's got that going there. It's
- 30:12like a piston, though. That, yeah, that, like,
- 30:15I will say, he didn't have much else outside
- 30:17the jab, but goddamn, his jab was good. Like,
- 30:20he was literally, I mean, to be fair, it didn't
- 30:21help that Gallegos was just walking straight
- 30:22into it, but like... Anytime that jab popped
- 30:25out, it was, like, fucking Gallegos up. Like,
- 30:29it was, yeah, insane. Kind of like, you know
- 30:34how, like, Batoviev's jab is kind of like that,
- 30:36where, like, it's not even a power punch, but
- 30:38it still hurts you? That's kind of like what
- 30:39he was just doing to Gallegos. It was, like,
- 30:41mental. So we'll see who he fights next. Morojan
- 30:46Akbadaliev. TKO8 over Luis Castillo. Similar
- 30:51situation. It's weird because I felt like a dominant
- 30:56performance from MJ, but it wasn't spectacular.
- 31:02I felt like if that MJ shows up against Inoue,
- 31:06he's just going to get beat. Yeah. He didn't
- 31:11impress me. I don't know. Maybe he was taking
- 31:13it easy because he has something lined up. All
- 31:16he's got to do is just muddle through the win
- 31:19and you don't have to worry about. Your next
- 31:23fight. Yeah, I guess. Honestly, there isn't much
- 31:30to talk about in this fight. It wasn't fun or
- 31:33exciting. MJ won. Yeah. Just quickly on MJ. I
- 31:41still am not entirely sure why he's just been
- 31:44given this Inoue opportunity. I know for a fact
- 31:47there's no Inoue he can fight, but this dude
- 31:48lost to Topales and he's fought no one since.
- 31:51Like, huh? There's just nobody else left. Who
- 31:56else at that weight class would you have in a
- 31:58white fight? Yeah, that's why I mentioned that.
- 32:01But, like, still, I don't know. I mean, you've
- 32:03got, like, I mean, Picasso's there. He's a fighter.
- 32:08Picasso's one -up, isn't he? I don't think he
- 32:11has. On box, he lists him at Super Bantam, so
- 32:15there you go. Picasso sucks, though. He's way
- 32:18worse than MJ. I don't know. I've never seen
- 32:20him box, but he's ranked number five on... I
- 32:22would prefer MJ over Picasso. I'm gonna... I
- 32:26mean, I know he stopped whoever earlier, so it
- 32:28doesn't really matter, but still. Yeah, but,
- 32:31like, Picasso's fought nobody. Same as Sam fucking
- 32:35Goodman. Another guy who doesn't rate. Yeah.
- 32:39Goodman is never getting another shot. No. Ever.
- 32:44Nor should he. If you're gonna be fucking around.
- 32:52Oh, I think MJ's loss to, to, to Paula's is,
- 32:57uh, I think people make more out of it than,
- 33:00than we should. I think the only reason people
- 33:04do make such a big deal about it is because we're
- 33:06talking about MJ in the context of fighting in
- 33:09a way. So a loss is going to look a lot worse
- 33:13than it really is. People have bad nights. Happens
- 33:18all the time. I'm coping right now. Hoping that
- 33:25the MJ fight's good. Those scores in the MJ -Topalis
- 33:32fight are all over the fucking place. Yeah, it
- 33:35doesn't make sense. 118 -110 when the other two
- 33:39have it 113 -115 the other way? That's crazy.
- 33:43Makes perfect sense. Totally. Yep. Anyway. Enough
- 33:48of that. Back the bully. Yeah. Goldenboy, also
- 33:56on the zone. Also on May 30th. The co -main,
- 33:59Eric Priest. He looked good. We were talking
- 34:03about this. I think it was on B -Sides. We were
- 34:06talking about Luis Arias being a solid test.
- 34:09This is a good step up for Eric. And he answered
- 34:13the call perfectly. It's a really dominant decision.
- 34:19Yeah, he looked good. I don't know if I've seen
- 34:21Eric Priest before. You have on Undercards before,
- 34:26but just not very memorable. He's not flashy.
- 34:33Bektimir Melikuziev beats Darius Fulgham. The
- 34:39best part of... Why is Beck so stupid? He did...
- 34:45Not have his cup of Folgers in the morning. I
- 34:49don't know. Dude forgot his brain. He just makes
- 34:54such stupid fucking decisions. I want to like
- 34:58Beck. I really do. But he starts winning and
- 35:04then he starts just being stupid and making it
- 35:08a close fight. Like, every fucking time. And
- 35:12he started losing the middle rounds and start
- 35:15showboating. And I'm like, what the fuck are
- 35:17you doing? He also definitely still has PTSD
- 35:22from the Gabe Rosado knockout. Because every
- 35:26time the guy was near the ropes, he'd attack.
- 35:28But if he got in a corner, Beck would back off.
- 35:32And it made me laugh every single time. Beck
- 35:36does not throw punches in corners anymore. Understandable.
- 35:43I will never forget that knockout. I was watching
- 35:48alone in my basement and I jumped off my couch
- 35:52and fucking screamed at the TV when it happened.
- 35:58But yeah, Beck could be so good if he wasn't
- 36:02so stupid. My summary of this fight. That's why
- 36:05he'll never be great. Because he won't stop being
- 36:08stupid. Which is also why I like watching him,
- 36:11because I know something interesting will happen.
- 36:14Funny part is, he still won this by unanimous
- 36:18decision and dropped Fulgham in round 12. Yeah,
- 36:21but the only reason he won is because he dropped
- 36:24Fulgham. Eh, a win's a win. Pretty sure on every
- 36:29scorecard it would have been a draw otherwise.
- 36:34114, 113. No, it would have been... Well, it
- 36:37was... Oh, yeah, it would have been. Oh, right,
- 36:41because Beck got point deduction for being stupid.
- 36:46Yeah, that was just weird. I didn't really watch
- 36:50this fight, but I recall I watched like a round
- 36:52or two at one point. It was fun at the time.
- 36:57Like, being in the chat at the same time sometimes
- 37:00makes these sillier fights a lot more entertaining.
- 37:05Yeah. Talking about Bektamir being a fucking
- 37:11train rectamir is... Yeah. It's better than just
- 37:18yelling at my television. It does make it more
- 37:22fun to chat with people while you're watching.
- 37:25Because if I'd have watched it by myself, I probably
- 37:27just would have gotten angry at Beck. Yeah. For
- 37:30being stupid. I wouldn't have enjoyed it. I'd
- 37:32have just been yelling at my TV in a not fun
- 37:35way. Like, what the fuck are you doing? You goddamn
- 37:38idiot. Yep. But I don't know who's at that weight
- 37:46class. That's too big for me. Who should Beck
- 37:49fight next? Who should he fight next? Yeah. 168.
- 37:57What's that? Middleweight? Super middle. Yeah.
- 38:01He is 20th on BoxRec. So take that for whatever
- 38:08you want. William Skull. Oh, no. I say that unironically.
- 38:16They deserve each other. Really? Yeah. I mean,
- 38:19it would probably be Skull's toughest test. It
- 38:22would be. And stylistically, it would be a hard
- 38:27test for Bechtamir as well. So this is a pretty
- 38:32decent win -win. You know, honestly, what would
- 38:35be kind of fun would be Beck versus Plant. I
- 38:40think it'd be fun. I think Plant could take that.
- 38:44Yeah, but do you think Beck's going to want to
- 38:47wait out until halfway through next year when
- 38:50Plant decides he's going to come back? No, but
- 38:53I think if Beck catches Plant, Plant's chin's
- 38:58going to go and Beck will win. And Plant's legs
- 39:01aren't as good as they used to be. No. This is
- 39:07a good transition point. Yes. The PBC on Prime
- 39:11card on the 31st. Some quick ones. Kermel Moten
- 39:16versus Rennie Mastropa. Guess the job done. Wasn't
- 39:22his most spectacular performance, but this is
- 39:25what you want from these young guys. Stay active.
- 39:28Get the work done. Get some rounds in. Yoenly
- 39:32Hernandez beats the shit out of Kyron Davis.
- 39:37Fucking one -sided. It was a sweep on all three
- 39:39cards. Not a whole lot more to say. I don't think,
- 39:42anyway, unless you have something for Yoenly.
- 39:45No. Was that an upset? No. Not an upset. Never
- 39:51mind. Wrong, Davis. Why do they all have K names?
- 39:54I hate that. Yeah, there's like six of them and
- 39:58only three of them are related. Really? I thought
- 40:01they were all related. Jermall Charlo stops Tommy
- 40:11LaManna in six. Charlo looked pretty good for
- 40:16his second long layoff return. I thought he looked
- 40:21all right. Still a little rusty. I thought he
- 40:24looked like shit. to be honest. It wasn't vintage
- 40:27Charlo, but he looked better than he did against
- 40:30Benavidez, which is saying something. I don't
- 40:33remember that. Yeah, the Benavidez performance
- 40:38was pretty crappy. I think the Charlos are both
- 40:43washed at this point. Probably. What's the other
- 40:48one even doing these days after he lost to Hanoi?
- 40:51He's talking about... He's starting to talk about
- 40:54his own comeback. Trying to stale... Go ahead.
- 40:59They did a lot of soul -searching, I think, during
- 41:05this time off. They patched up their brotherly
- 41:10relationship. Tried very hard to stay out of
- 41:14jail. Succeeded, apparently. I don't know how.
- 41:21Couple other things that I've heard they've done.
- 41:25They probably should have been in jail for a
- 41:27little while. As far as I'm aware, Jermall Charlo,
- 41:33the one that just fought, he's had substance
- 41:38abuse problems, specifically with alcohol. But
- 41:42that's about it. Some mental health issues, clearly.
- 41:49So between those two things, the other Charlo
- 41:52Germel, the one that fought Canelo, that's the
- 41:55one that was abusing waitstaff. Fucking abusing
- 42:01his wife, I believe. Okay. I didn't realize it
- 42:05was only one of them. Their names are too close.
- 42:09I get them confused. They're almost exactly the
- 42:12same. Just a single letter difference. Uh, alright.
- 42:16Okay, I take it back about this one. Yeah. But
- 42:19the other one probably should have been in jail.
- 42:21This one does sad boy shit. The other one does
- 42:25mad boy shit. Yeah. Fair. Now, moving up to Bechtamir's
- 42:31next opponent, Caleb Plant. Uh, how he recovers
- 42:35from this, I don't know. Uh, Resendiz got bopped
- 42:40by Elijah Garcia, who is nobody to write home
- 42:43about. And he looked good, though. Like, he just
- 42:49had answers for everything Plant was trying to
- 42:52do. Pretty much from the fourth or fifth round,
- 42:55it was a completely one -sided fight. How it
- 42:58ended up a fucking split decision, I'll never
- 43:00know. Fucking David Sutherland. Ridiculous. Yeah,
- 43:07I just had a look at Sutherland's scorecard.
- 43:09So, after the first four rounds... He gave Plant
- 43:14round 7, and then rounds 10, 11, and 12. What
- 43:17the fuck? Plant lost all three of those last
- 43:20rounds. Absolutely. 100%. What the fuck is that?
- 43:25He started doing the math and realized the guy
- 43:30he was paid to let win was losing. Yes. The other
- 43:35two judges, Steve Weisfield, gave Plant the first
- 43:38four, and then the rest of the fight to Ashendiz.
- 43:40And Max DeLuca gave Ford the first five to Plant.
- 43:44The only round he gave to Ashendiz was round
- 43:47three, and then the rest of the fight was a clear
- 43:49shout -out for Ashendiz. So at least two of the
- 43:51judges were competent. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 43:53Like, Sutherland can be. It's just, like, you
- 43:56can tell when they're turning in their bot cards,
- 44:00like the pre -filled ones. Yep. David Sutherland's
- 44:04bad for that, though. Yeah. Cheatham's not that
- 44:11much better. Was he on this panel? He was on
- 44:17a different card. Cheatham was on the Beck card,
- 44:25wasn't he? I think so. I might be wrong. Let
- 44:30me check who those were. Yeah. Wait. That can't
- 44:35be right. Were those two fights on the same night?
- 44:39Yeah. Oh, no. The back to here was the night
- 44:42before, wasn't it? Okay. Because they got Steve
- 44:47Weisfield, David Sutherland, and Tim Cheatham
- 44:50on the Beck fight. Both were in Vegas. Oh, maybe
- 44:58he just walked down the street. But yeah, Cheatham
- 45:06was on the Beck fight. What's next for Resendiz?
- 45:16Does he stay at 168? Because, I don't know, did
- 45:19he look undersized compared to Plant? Plant's
- 45:23really big, though. Okay. Being undersized compared
- 45:26to Plant, I don't know that means he can go down.
- 45:29Does it? I would say he's like Canelo -sized.
- 45:34Maybe he's a little bit more beefy, but he's
- 45:36not very tall for the weight. Yeah. I don't know
- 45:44who Resendez should fight next. Well, Resendez
- 45:48is the WBA Interim Super Middleweight Champion,
- 45:53so somebody will want to fight him for that.
- 45:56I remember we talked about this. I could have
- 45:58sworn it was for the regular title. Boltruck
- 46:03is saying it's the interim, so unless Boltruck
- 46:05thinks about it. Chances are it's more correct
- 46:08than my brain. Yeah, apparently Plant picked
- 46:11it up when he beat McCombie, so. Man, I could
- 46:14have sworn they said regular on the broadcast.
- 46:18Boltruck is saying WBA Interim World Super Middleweight
- 46:21Champion. Excellent. I'm going with what Boltruck
- 46:25says. Thanks, Boltruck. The gifts are off the
- 46:29shot. Yo, actually Resendi's Saras. That's actually
- 46:34pretty good. I don't know who'd watch it, but...
- 46:38I mean, I'd have more interest in it if I did
- 46:41for Resendi the plan, I'll say that much. I mean,
- 46:47because Saras is... A fire. Well, still undefeated,
- 46:53isn't he? Saras lost to... Yeah. Munguia. Who
- 46:59was on PEDS. Oh, shit! Yeah, that fight hasn't
- 47:02been overturned. Oh, we won't overturn this one,
- 47:05but we're gonna overturn fuckin' Nav. Yeah, I
- 47:10don't know. Well, they... I assume they're waiting
- 47:13for the B test to pop as well. Right? Yeah, they'll
- 47:17be going for that one. But, I mean, once they
- 47:21overturn that, Saras is still undefeated. Well,
- 47:27assuming they do. This is boxing. They did an
- 47:31overturn. Connor Ben and that whole thing just
- 47:34proves that there's no consistency in how any
- 47:37of this works. Exogenous testosterone metabolites
- 47:42is pretty hard to defend. That's not tainted
- 47:46meat. Well, we'll see. Doesn't sound like tainted
- 47:49meat to me. Even if it is still officially a
- 47:54loss, I think Saras deserves his shot at some
- 47:57sort of title. He earned it. He can fight the
- 48:02winner of Simpson v. Zufo for the European. That's
- 48:05probably more his level. Nobody's going to want
- 48:08to fight Resendiz anyways. I mean, yeah, he's
- 48:11Mexican, so... Low risk, or high risk, low reward.
- 48:15Yeah. Resendiz... Well, I wouldn't say low reward.
- 48:18He is the... I never... I never want to see Skull
- 48:23fight again. Ever. I'm trying to put him in with
- 48:27people that'll beat him up so that he won't fight
- 48:29again. Alright, perfect. Iglesias versus Skull.
- 48:33Let's get it on. Battle of Cuba. Iglesias is
- 48:40the new school Cuban. Yep. He could probably
- 48:44catch Skull, though. I think he would. He would
- 48:48destroy Skull. It wouldn't even be close. That
- 48:53could be fun. I stand by my conspiracy that Skull
- 48:57was given the script. Canelo Bud is already set.
- 49:04So, you know, do whatever it takes. Do whatever
- 49:07you want to just fucking... But you're not winning.
- 49:11So you better make sure of that. I stand by that
- 49:16if... Skull was the A -side. He'd have won. Even
- 49:21for that nasty -ass performance? Breaking down
- 49:24was a champion for years. Also a human. That
- 49:31was the old style. Anything more for the PBC
- 49:35card? No. I do think, as much as I was talking
- 49:40otherwise, Plant's going to fight Charlo. I don't
- 49:43think it matters that he lost. I think so, too.
- 49:47I absolutely agree. Charlo didn't look very good.
- 49:49Plant didn't look very good. Let him go fight.
- 49:52People will watch it. Alright, so before we take
- 49:59a quick break, I'm going to have to work in a
- 50:02second one because we're at an hour right now.
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- 55:10stuff speaking of good stuff this is not it Lucas
- 55:14Brown versus David Padman. I don't know who either
- 55:19of these guys are. We do not have a lot going
- 55:21on this week. We're getting to the bottom of
- 55:24the barrel here. Yes. There's not even any random
- 55:28UK card I can bring up. That says a lot. That
- 55:33we're talking about Lucas Brown and there's no
- 55:35Brit slob to throw in. Yep. These two both look
- 55:40like they are fighting from prison. Like, if
- 55:44you look at their box racks, these look like
- 55:48scary dudes. I wouldn't put it beyond at this
- 55:50point. I think Lucas Brown was a bouncer. I'm
- 55:55not sure on that. But that does sound about right.
- 56:03Yeah, main thing to point out here, Lucas Brown,
- 56:0531 -6. David Padovan, 3 -0. I'm sorry? What?
- 56:12What? What? the fuck am I looking at? Uh -huh.
- 56:19Also, this man looks like he's 40. And he's how
- 56:24old? It doesn't say on BoxRec. Padavan or Brown?
- 56:29Padavan. And I can have a look. It doesn't really
- 56:34matter. I just mean he is not a new young prospect.
- 56:38At 3 -0. Hot commodity coming out of... From
- 56:43Australia. Oh, shit. Moving on. Amir Khan Promotions.
- 56:52On his own. I didn't know that was a thing. Yep,
- 56:56I didn't either. I didn't know he even promoted.
- 56:59Yeah. The headline is Andrew Tabidi vs. Jacob
- 57:03Dixon. I believe this is happening in Ghana.
- 57:07Yeah, I have to say that. June 13th. Same day
- 57:11as Lucas Brown. That could be cool. I like watching
- 57:15the international ones more just to see what
- 57:17the atmosphere and the crowd is like. Yeah. To
- 57:20be honest. Tabidi's okay. I believe this is good.
- 57:23This should be a cruiserweight fight. That's
- 57:25where Tabidi's fought most of his career. But
- 57:28it might be heavy just because he's been out
- 57:31for a bit. And I'm not sure who Jacob Dixon is.
- 57:34But 14 -1. Yeah, I had a quick look just now.
- 57:39The only fight he had outside of Ghana, he went
- 57:42to France and got stopped in the first round
- 57:44by Albert Ramirez, who is now a light heavyweight
- 57:48with Iota Tiger. So that doesn't bode well for
- 57:53his chances in this fight. Yeah, so we know what
- 57:55this is for Tabidi. This is a little get back
- 57:59for him. How many rounds do we reckon? Overall,
- 58:02under one. Uh, I'm gonna set it at three and
- 58:07a hey. That's the over -under for me. Alright.
- 58:14Uh, who else is on this card? Oh, Howard Davies
- 58:18is here. Is he really? Yes. I thought he was
- 58:22fired after he got absolutely destroyed by Adam
- 58:24Fassine, but apparently he's still fighting.
- 58:26He's with Amir Khan now. I mean, he'll probably
- 58:31get cashed out in the UK. He still has a name
- 58:33somehow. He's basically like... He's like the
- 58:37140 equivalent of what Aldi Harrison used to
- 58:40be. He just loses every fight, but he somehow
- 58:42has a name, so he keeps getting fights. Ah. I
- 58:46know the type. Yeah. Yes. Like a British Camposus,
- 58:52when you think about it. Brandon Glatton is also
- 58:55apparently on this card. Only two months after
- 58:57he fought Bill and Smith. So it seems like the
- 59:01Brit slop was taken to Ghana. I mean, it's a
- 59:06horror day, but he's just about as Brit slop
- 59:08as you get. Though apparently this fight is listed
- 59:10at well -awaited, so I guess he's going up to
- 59:11147 now. That's about what we're going to get
- 59:14out of that card. That's Amir Khan on the zone.
- 59:18There ain't shit else going on on the 13th, so
- 59:21if you need boxing in your life, you just have
- 59:24to have something. I bet you the clothes. The
- 59:28clothes in Ghana are going to be great. Oh, I
- 59:30bet they'll be super colorful. That'll be fun.
- 59:34Moving on to the 14th. This is Anne for Promotions.
- 59:38This one's happening in Hermosillo in Mexico.
- 59:44The co -main event, which I pick up because RJ
- 59:48tagged Camila, Anae, Zamorano, and Sinas. So
- 59:53we're going with Camila and Sinas. RJ Tech. Versus
- 59:58Mika Iwakawa. It's for a secondary title at 105,
- 1:00:04I believe. Which is... I think it's less than
- 1:00:09105. Yeah. I think it's 100. Wow. That's fucking
- 1:00:18small. It's so tiny. I just... I used to do karate
- 1:00:25with a girl who wrestled at 100 pounds or less.
- 1:00:28And I was like, she was so good, but I could
- 1:00:32beat her every time because you just grab her
- 1:00:35and throw her across the fucking room. She weighs
- 1:00:37100 pounds. I just looked it and seen it as his
- 1:00:44box weight paid. So she's 11 and 0. Okay, nothing
- 1:00:47too suspicious. But she's 17. Yeah. She's Mexican.
- 1:00:53Apparently she started boxing at 15, which is
- 1:00:56crazy. She had been boxing long before that.
- 1:01:00They're allowed to turn pro at 15. She's fighting
- 1:01:05a 41 -year -old. Yeah, we got a 17 versus a 41
- 1:01:10-year -old. I don't know why this is a fight.
- 1:01:15Because Mexico. It's the WBC International. Adam
- 1:01:23weight. 100 pounds. Anyone know who the WBC world
- 1:01:32Adam weight champion for females is? I don't
- 1:01:38watch the women. Especially not that small. This
- 1:01:42is a lot more time than I really thought we were
- 1:01:43going to be spending on these two. Okay. Moving
- 1:01:48on. Yeah. Juan Francisco Estrada versus Karim
- 1:01:52Arce Lugo. This is a decent fight. It's at 118.
- 1:01:56Estrada's moving up. Is it a decent fight? I
- 1:01:59think if this is Karim Arce, not who I thought
- 1:02:05it was. So, no. I don't think so. I mean, Estrada
- 1:02:09should knock this guy out quick. It's at 118,
- 1:02:12though. And Estrada was already kind of undersized
- 1:02:14at 115. Fair, but also, it's Estrada versus someone.
- 1:02:24I had a quick look at Lugo. The only name I recognize
- 1:02:28is someone that Shunata should know. He got stopped
- 1:02:31in the ninth round by David Contreras. Yeah,
- 1:02:36Contreras is actually good, though. Or was, for
- 1:02:39a little while. Yeah. He only has the one loss
- 1:02:43to Nakatani. Let's not act like... that's a big
- 1:02:48shame. I wasn't saying he was bad. I was just
- 1:02:51saying that Shanoa would know him because he
- 1:02:53lost to Nakatani. Yes. I think most people know
- 1:02:58him, don't they? I'm bored if you'd be surprised.
- 1:03:02I forget how people don't watch my weight classes.
- 1:03:07Anyways, I suspect Estrada will knock this guy
- 1:03:11out. That's probably the point. To get him on
- 1:03:15the 118 radar. Estrada needs to retire, though.
- 1:03:21Tenshin Asukawa needs opponents. Ugh. Moving
- 1:03:27on. Also on the 14th, Samson. This is... I can't
- 1:03:32find an American broadcaster for this, but it's
- 1:03:37on TYC Sports, Argentina. Nonito Doner versus
- 1:03:41Andres Campos. Also at 118. I really like Donair,
- 1:03:52but he's way past it. That being said, he should
- 1:03:55knock out some no -name Argentinian, right? You
- 1:03:58would think. Probably. He's no Argentinian. He's
- 1:04:02not. Where is he from? Chile. He's from Chile.
- 1:04:05He fought... Who did he... Sonny Edwards. That's
- 1:04:09where I remember him. I mean, Donair should still
- 1:04:14win. Donair should win. Yeah. It should not be
- 1:04:18too difficult. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. Though, the
- 1:04:24only thing worth knowing is this is going to
- 1:04:26be Donair's first fight in almost two years.
- 1:04:28So, could be something else. We'll see. Lame.
- 1:04:32Stay retired, dude. Donair's good on comms. I
- 1:04:37don't know why he doesn't just stick to comms.
- 1:04:39Some people just can't quit boxing. It happens.
- 1:04:43Well, it's his wife. Donair is the most pussy
- 1:04:47-whipped person on the planet. Good lord. It's
- 1:04:51rough. But it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so
- 1:04:54bad. Fucked up, like, the tail end of his career
- 1:04:59because of it. Yeah. Like, I'm all for men loving
- 1:05:06their wives more than they maybe should. Toner
- 1:05:08needs to get his balls back and just retire.
- 1:05:15Speaking of getting the balls back, Matchroom...
- 1:05:20On June 14th, George Cambosos is going to be
- 1:05:23fighting Richardson Hitchens. Some stuff. The
- 1:05:27only one that I picked up that I was really...
- 1:05:30I picked anything up that had a secondary title.
- 1:05:34Ernesto Mercado vs. Jonathan Montrell at Superlight.
- 1:05:38Alexis Barillet vs. Ronnie Hines at Heavyweight.
- 1:05:43There's a Canadian. Yes, I actually watched Barillet's
- 1:05:48last fight. I don't recall. Yeah, that was the
- 1:05:51Rocky Hernandez, the Gibraltar on the card. He
- 1:05:54was fighting some fat Mexican. He looked... Well,
- 1:05:59he had a performance. I don't recall much. I
- 1:06:01just recall he got tagged pretty badly at one
- 1:06:03point, but he very clearly won that fight and
- 1:06:05was pulled out after six rounds. No idea who
- 1:06:10his opponent is, but this is going to be his
- 1:06:12first... No, sorry, his second fight outside
- 1:06:14of Canada. His second fight was in the US in
- 1:06:17a sports center. But this is probably going to
- 1:06:20be the toughest test of his career. We'll see
- 1:06:21how he looks. 14 -0. Can't be that terrible,
- 1:06:25right? I've got a draw on the record to a 9 -4
- 1:06:29opponent, so, I mean... Oh, wait, no, you're
- 1:06:31talking about... Yeah, well... Can't be that
- 1:06:35terrible. Right. I mean, he's an American heavyweight.
- 1:06:39I wouldn't have high hopes. No, 6 '6", Southpaw.
- 1:06:41You never know. He's not even an American heavyweight.
- 1:06:45He's a French -Canadian. Barrier or Hines? Barrier.
- 1:06:49Hines is an American. Oh, Barrier. Yeah, Barrier
- 1:06:51is Canadian. He's also a Southpaw. So two Southpaw
- 1:06:54heavyweights here. So Southpaw lovers. Can't
- 1:06:57be that bad, right? It could be pretty bad. It
- 1:07:03can be okay. Please, Heinz, do something. I need
- 1:07:09any sliver of hope. It's probably going to be
- 1:07:13better than Clinton's versus Kambosa. Or Cruz
- 1:07:17v. Mishiro. Andy Cruz isn't bad to watch. I don't
- 1:07:24mind Andy Cruz. I am like the number one Andy
- 1:07:26Cruz hater in the Discord, so I will be watching
- 1:07:29this fight, playing that Mishiro knocks him out.
- 1:07:3217. How many knockouts out of 17 fights? Six.
- 1:07:36Six. Not many. But, but, but, he is on a two
- 1:07:40-fight knockout streak. Two -fight knockout streak.
- 1:07:43Yep. About to become three. I hope so. He's only
- 1:07:50ever really fought in Kuroku and Hall. I don't
- 1:07:55know who Mishiro is. Yeah, I've never heard of
- 1:07:58him. He's fought outside of Japan a couple times.
- 1:08:02He fought in... Australia. Newcastle. That's
- 1:08:07Australia. And Incheon in Korea. And also Makai.
- 1:08:13And Korakuen Hall. Ooh, you went to the Philippines.
- 1:08:16Yeah, Makai. Fancy. Otashi, the Ota Gym. Yeah,
- 1:08:24but that's, like, worse than Korakuen Hall. Is
- 1:08:28it really? No, but kind of. It's bigger. Andy
- 1:08:41Cruz should... Are we taking this one at, what,
- 1:08:46seven? Seven and a half? I have no idea. I don't
- 1:08:51think Cruz stops him. I don't know. I mean, Andy
- 1:08:56Cruz isn't really someone who fights for the
- 1:08:58finish. He only has two knockouts in his five
- 1:09:00fights so far. And he's Cuban. So, like, we'll
- 1:09:08see. I would be, I will, I mean, if you're betting
- 1:09:12on this fight, I would bet Cruz be a decision.
- 1:09:15That's probably a safe bet. The Japanese tend
- 1:09:19to be hard to knock out. Yes. Well, sure, we'll
- 1:09:25go with that. I don't know. Cruz just doesn't.
- 1:09:30He's not like a massive puncher. He doesn't really
- 1:09:32go for the finishes. He's kind of... He's got
- 1:09:36that Cuban style, like the fundamentals and like
- 1:09:38that, but he doesn't fight to really stop people.
- 1:09:42So... Let's see. And in the main event, Richardson
- 1:09:50Hitchens versus a former Maxie Hughes victim.
- 1:09:57Oh, when you put it like that. Maxi Hughes should
- 1:10:03be fighting for the world title. I mean, it's
- 1:10:05just players that, you know. That's just, that's
- 1:10:07just factual. Factual information, yes. How does
- 1:10:14Kambosis keep getting these belt shots? He has
- 1:10:17a name and he signed with Maxi. That's like the
- 1:10:20only reason. Look, he beat Jake Wiley. How many
- 1:10:25other top 140ers have beat Jake Wiley, okay?
- 1:10:29None, because he's never fought any of them.
- 1:10:32Ah, but that therefore means that he is the only
- 1:10:35one to have beaten him. Therefore. I don't know.
- 1:10:40I mean, this is... I already know how this fight's
- 1:10:43gonna go. Like, if you saw either Haney 1 or
- 1:10:46Haney 2, you know how this fight's going. It's
- 1:10:48going to be a wide, unanimous decision for Hitchens.
- 1:10:50Everyone's going to get a great night of sleeping.
- 1:10:53Kambosis will then go off and have a comeback
- 1:10:55fight where he'll win, look awful, and then somehow
- 1:10:58get another world title shot. I don't... These
- 1:11:02are facts. You are speaking things into existence
- 1:11:04that I don't want to happen. You already know.
- 1:11:09No, I know what's going to happen. I know. I
- 1:11:10know you're absolutely right. Yeah, he'll lose,
- 1:11:13and then later this year, he'll make, like, a
- 1:11:14comeback fight. And given he's with Matt Froome,
- 1:11:16and he already did the Brits step -down fight,
- 1:11:18he'll probably fight Padley. Look awful. What
- 1:11:20a wobbly decision. I was just about to say that.
- 1:11:21And next year, we'll see him beat the Hitchens,
- 1:11:23too, for some reason. He's gonna fight Josh Padley.
- 1:11:29Honestly, Padley would, like... Like, he wouldn't
- 1:11:32stop Kambosos, but fuck me, he would outbox him
- 1:11:34easily. Padley beats Kambosos, because Kambosos
- 1:11:37is a glorified domestic -level fighter. Yeah,
- 1:11:42he would not. I mean, he's a, well, okay, he
- 1:11:45wouldn't fight Padley. He's a 140 now. But, like,
- 1:11:48still. Who actually do we have at home? I know
- 1:11:51we have, like, Dalton Smith, but that would be
- 1:11:54very risky for Campos as a comeback. Sam Noakes.
- 1:11:59He's with Queensbury, and he's also probably
- 1:12:01about to fight for the vacant WRO title. So,
- 1:12:03yeah. We'll see. So, if Hitchens goes to 20 -0,
- 1:12:12because there's no real point in discussing the
- 1:12:14fight, because we already know for a fact there's
- 1:12:16like a 1 % chance Camposus wins. Who does he
- 1:12:19fight next at 140? Because he obviously had the
- 1:12:22controversial one against Lemos, then beat Liam
- 1:12:24Powell, now he's going to be another Aussie bomb
- 1:12:26in Camposus. Like, who does he fight at 140 next?
- 1:12:32Who's Adam Azeem with? Uh, Boxer. And he's got
- 1:12:37a fight. as of the time of recording this, tomorrow.
- 1:12:42Yeah, he's fighting on the Simpson undercard,
- 1:12:44which is, well, for me today is the time of recording
- 1:12:46this. But that was some, that's some state -based
- 1:12:49fight. I'm not sure what he's doing next. Assuming
- 1:12:52he wins. Yeah. Yes. Which he should. And Richardson
- 1:12:57Hitchens wins. That lines up if you wanted to
- 1:13:00do American versus British. I would want to see
- 1:13:05a scene get, like, a step -up fight, because
- 1:13:07his only real test today was a shot to pieces
- 1:13:11liberty. I mean, this is because he signed with
- 1:13:14Boxer, and they typically have their dudes fight
- 1:13:16out of nobodies, but, like, yeah, he... I want
- 1:13:20to see him have that, like, step -up fight before
- 1:13:23he goes and fights a Hitchens or whatever. Steve
- 1:13:25Claggett. Don't you dare. Don't you even try
- 1:13:31and manifest Hitchens v. Claggett. That would
- 1:13:34not be fun. No. Hang on, let me have a look at
- 1:13:39the IDF 140. Excuse me. Because I don't actually...
- 1:13:44Well, because funny enough, I don't memorize
- 1:13:45this stuff. Because, like, it's not usually that
- 1:13:48important. But I can have a quick... Okay, 140,
- 1:13:51which is... 140 is pretty empty. Uh, what is
- 1:13:54it? Yeah, Junior World, wait. So Hitchens is
- 1:13:57the champion. Number one is Matthias. Number
- 1:14:00two, there isn't one. And then number three is
- 1:14:02Camposus, and number four is Paro. So Hitchens
- 1:14:05v. Matias? Maybe? Oh, that's right. He's in the
- 1:14:08number one slot. Yes. That's a mandatory. It's
- 1:14:12going to get enforced. Hitchens will have to
- 1:14:16fight Matias. Hmm. Subreal Matias has Pueyo booked
- 1:14:24for July 12th. Which is, I'm not part of this
- 1:14:29fight, so the dates would work out well. Yeah,
- 1:14:31assuming he wins. Which isn't a guarantee. It's
- 1:14:36not. Not against Pueyo. Yeah. I mean, Matias,
- 1:14:41we've seen, can have issues with a boxer like
- 1:14:43he saw in the Paolo fight, so we'll see. Outside
- 1:14:47of those dudes, because obviously he's not going
- 1:14:48to rematch Hitchens, uh, Paolo, he's not going
- 1:14:50to rematch Cambrosis. Number five is Lindolfo
- 1:14:53Delgado. And then 6 is a guy called Carleton
- 1:14:58Aguber, who I've never heard of, but apparently
- 1:15:00he's Russian. And then you get to, like, Dolan
- 1:15:03Smith and Gabby of Venezuela 8. So, we'll see.
- 1:15:09You could do a Mexican in Vegas. See? Yeah. Yes.
- 1:15:17I think Delgado's fighting on this part. Or at
- 1:15:21least I know something like that. He's fighting
- 1:15:23soon. I just, I didn't. Yeah, it might be on
- 1:15:26this card. No, that's my card. That's what I'm
- 1:15:29thinking of. Different person. Same card anyway.
- 1:15:31Let me have a look. Yeah, he fought back in April.
- 1:15:37We'll see. But yeah, if Matthias wins, I would
- 1:15:39imagine they may get a mandatory. That's probably
- 1:15:42the most realistic outcome here. And it could
- 1:15:46be a unification. Could end up that way. Oh yeah,
- 1:15:49yeah, I just checked. I mean, TSP Puyo is a wild
- 1:15:51title fight, I forgot. So yeah, that would be
- 1:15:54a unification type thing. So we'll see. We'll
- 1:15:59see what happens. When are they going to give
- 1:16:02my boy Sandor his title shot? His redemption?
- 1:16:06When did he even last fight? Let me even look.
- 1:16:09I don't know. Recently. Against Puyo, yeah. Against
- 1:16:12Puyo, and he... Oh, yeah. Wait, what card was
- 1:16:16that? It was pretty grimy, but he almost won.
- 1:16:20Yeah, I didn't watch that play because I'm pretty
- 1:16:22sure I skipped most of that undercard, but yeah.
- 1:16:26Honestly, Martin isn't that good to watch, but
- 1:16:29I enjoy it. We'll see what he does. Is he in
- 1:16:34the IBF rankings? He is not. No, he's in the
- 1:16:39other two. Yes, so he wouldn't face Hitchens.
- 1:16:43I would say Hitchens v. Martins would be... That
- 1:16:48has to be fair, probably quite a boring fight.
- 1:16:51If that ever happened in the future. Yeah. So
- 1:17:02I lost it. Yeah, Ernesto Mercado is also on this
- 1:17:05card, because he didn't mention him, I don't
- 1:17:07think. Briefly. He's actually fighting for an
- 1:17:10IVF belt, the IVF North American Super Lightweight
- 1:17:13belt. Which Hitchens actually previously held,
- 1:17:17so there you go. He's fighting a guy called Jonathan
- 1:17:21Montrell. I've never heard of him, but he lost
- 1:17:24an eight -round unanimous decision, 8 -0 to Delante
- 1:17:28Johnson, who isn't that good. So, yeah, we'll
- 1:17:35see. I'm not... I wasn't expecting much out of
- 1:17:40Montrell. Yeah. Um, I watched... The only time
- 1:17:46I've really seen Ricciardo was his last fight
- 1:17:48against a shorter piece of Pitrazzo, but he looked
- 1:17:50pretty solid in that fight. Only 23, so probably
- 1:17:54got more to come. He's probably the one they're
- 1:17:57pushing anyway. I mean, this is for an IBF North
- 1:18:01American belt, so he could get pushed up into
- 1:18:04the IBF rankings with this. I don't think...
- 1:18:09He's number one in the IBF International. Because
- 1:18:14they rank them separately. IBF does. And he's
- 1:18:18number one in that and Montreal's not ranked.
- 1:18:23Well, he should win. It would be a massive upset
- 1:18:26if he was to lose this fight. Yeah. So, yeah.
- 1:18:31But he's got to get it done. So, we'll see what
- 1:18:34happens. You never know in boxing. I mean, I
- 1:18:40thought Plant and Charlo were going to win. boring
- 1:18:43fights, and here we are. So... Anything more
- 1:18:50for Mattroom on DAZN? I don't think so. A couple
- 1:18:55of prospects, but nothing I really recognize.
- 1:18:58Yeah, it's always more... Situations like this,
- 1:19:02Undercard is a little bit more where you want
- 1:19:04to pay more attention, just because the next
- 1:19:07big thing could be there. Yep. All right, let
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- 1:20:31where the outro stuff goes. So. We're heading
- 1:20:37into one of the weekends of the year. Yeah. There's
- 1:20:46not much going on. I forgot to get parting words
- 1:20:54ready. Oh, instead of parting words, so this
- 1:20:57is recorded Saturday. Nakatani fights Sunday.
- 1:21:02It's tomorrow. I think I bought floor seats again.
- 1:21:05I'm pretty sure I fucked up. Which sucks. But.
- 1:21:11They're only $300. How am I supposed to know
- 1:21:13where your seating be? Like, tickets are so cheap
- 1:21:17here. That for floor seats is pretty cheap. That's
- 1:21:23what I paid for floor seats at the Nishida Card
- 1:21:26in Osaka. But I thought it would be raised seating.
- 1:21:34In Tokyo. But I hadn't realized. That it's not
- 1:21:38at Ariaka Arena. It's at Ariaka Coliseum. Which
- 1:21:42is smaller. So now I think I have floor seats.
- 1:21:45Maybe I don't. Maybe I'll be fine. And I'll be
- 1:21:48where I can actually see. I also hate the floor
- 1:21:51seats. Because you have to walk by security.
- 1:21:53Every time you go by beer. And they look at you
- 1:21:56like you're a terrible person. Like. Nobody in
- 1:22:02Japan drinks more than two beers at the fights,
- 1:22:04I swear. Yeah, give me all of the beers, please.
- 1:22:08Yeah, that's not... I recall the only time I
- 1:22:11went to a boxing event in the UK. I must have
- 1:22:13seen... I don't even know how many people get
- 1:22:15dragged out who were definitely intoxicated in
- 1:22:17some degree. Yeah, that's not going to happen
- 1:22:20in Japan, but... Anyways. The fights will still
- 1:22:25be good. I'll still be able to see. I'm ten rows
- 1:22:27back wherever I am, so if I'm in the second set
- 1:22:31of floor seating, that's not bad. And people
- 1:22:34here are short, so I should be able to see. Lynn,
- 1:22:39anything for your Florida Panthers? Well, as
- 1:22:44of the time of recording this, it is game two
- 1:22:46occurring. It is currently tied at one, about
- 1:22:49halfway to the first. We went up one -nothing
- 1:22:52and then conceded. So, hopefully, we don't go
- 1:22:57down 2 -0 in a series. Or else, I'm not going
- 1:23:01to be particularly happy. Alright, well, if there's
- 1:23:08nothing else, then... Yeah. The sun is going
- 1:23:14down. What did the Mars rover say? Goddammit,
- 1:23:18how did I forget already? My batteries are low.
- 1:23:23The sun is going down. No, it's worse. My batteries
- 1:23:28are getting low and it is getting dark. Excellent.
- 1:23:31And I'm pretty sure that was like the last thing
- 1:23:33I ever said. It is. Yeah. That's exactly the
- 1:23:35last thing. It's last words. That's what I got
- 1:23:39for parting words. Because that's the end of
- 1:23:42Boxing Before Dark. The sun is going down, bitch.
- 1:23:45Hope you're not allergic to vampires. It is getting
- 1:23:47dark. Alright, we are out of here. Bye.