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Winning 50 Mile Kilkenny Ridge Race 2024 · Run Mountain Peaks

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  OK, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain Peaks.
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  Today we're going to tap off my major race stories.
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  I've told a bunch of them on the podcast so far, and I think the
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  only big race that I haven't kind of given my thoughts on and
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  talk through the whole thing has been the Kilkeny Ridge race 50
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  Miller that I ran in 2024. So I end up winning that race,
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  had a good run on that on that course.
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  And I'll go through that whole kind of there was a couple
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  things before the event and then during it.
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  It went really, really well, but there are a handful of of kind
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  of mistakes that I made during that race.
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  So I'll talk through some of the things that I would have done
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  different what happened and just go through that full story.
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  So we got that on deck today. And then hopefully, I mean,
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  those are the, those are my, I think I've told all the big
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  stories. So now we're getting closer to
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  the trail season this year and I got a bunch of things I want to
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  do. So the stories from me in the in
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  the future coming are all they have, but not been written yet.
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  We'll say that. So there's a lot of things that
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  I want to get out on this year, a lot of race efforts that I'm
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  starting to line up. Hopefully everything goes well.
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  So excited about it. But this will be the last old
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  story that we're bringing out as far as big races for me.
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  And then we're going to talk about the marathon.
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  Sports buying six O 3 trail races so that's.
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  Sunnipiece Scramble, Ragged Mountain, 50K stage race, the
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  Loon Mountain race, all these races they just got bought out,
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  I would, I would assume for a good amount of money.
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  And they're revamping the races. So we got a lot of or not
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  revamping, but putting some big money on it.
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  So I got some thoughts on that. We'll talk through that.
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  We'll go through the Lincoln Woods Trail shutdown that's
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  going on this year. It's shut down right now and
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  then it's going to shut down for most of the summer, so we'll go
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  through that. Going to do a little Olympics
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  recap. I mean, I'm sure everyone's been
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  dabbling a little bit in the Olympic Games.
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  Every four years is the perfect intervals for a lot of these
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  sports to be like, wow, that I kind of forgot this is a sport.
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  So we'll do some Olympics reactions.
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  The Black Canyons 100100K just took place this last weekend. 2
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  course records, new course records, that race was crazy.
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  How many people came out for that race?
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  So we'll go through that quickly.
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  No Barkley finishers this year probably won't dive into that,
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  but there's the Barkley update and then we're going to go
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  through one virtual race that's going on right now in February
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  and that'll be that'll be it for today.
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  So a handful of things got a lot to cover and we'll just dive
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  into it, of course, before the 62nd quick training tip.
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  So this week's training tip is going to be how to do speed
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  intervals depending on your muscle typology.
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  So fast switch and slow twitch athletes, people have heard a
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  lot about that. But if you're a slow twitch
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  athlete, you usually have maybe like a bigger engine, you can go
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  forever, but maybe not that finishing Sprint speed.
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  And then a fast twitch athlete would be more jumps, really high
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  spins, sprints really fast, but builds up a lot of lactate and
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  doesn't have as much as an have an engine to go longer.
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  And this is right out of the Scott Johnson training for the
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  uphill athlete. If you are a fast, more of a
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  fast twitch muscle fiber athlete, you should be doing
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  shorter intervals. So 2 minutes or less in that
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  zone, 4 plus intensity range because you're more prone to
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  build up lactate and so you get more out of a workout, basically
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  building it up quickly and then just doing more reps in that
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  range before your muscle just shutting down.
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  And then for slow twitch athletes, if you consider
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  yourself more of a slow twitch athlete, you should doing doing
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  longer intervals because it takes a little bit longer for
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  the lactate to build up. You don't have as much
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  production, but you can also clear it faster.
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  So you want to do longer intervals.
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  So that's the tip for today. It's from the training for the
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  uphill athletes. So I mean, that book should be
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  like most mountain runners Bible and and there you have it.
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  If you have any questions, go to runmountainpeaks.com.
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  You can shoot me a little question in in one of the boxes
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  on that website or you can just e-mail me and the emails on
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  there too. So that's the tip for today.
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  But OK, we'll jump right into the Kilkenny Ridge Race. 50
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  Miller. So this isn't out and back on
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  the Kilkeny Ridge race. Oh, we got some traffic.
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  We got some traffic. Sometimes I just try to muscle
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  through these segments when people are like coming on or
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  it's about to get awkward, but sometimes I can't.
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  So we're just going to smile and wave.
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  No way from this guy. He just gave me a head knob.
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  He had those big vapor glasses. OK.
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  We're going to get right into the Kilkeny Ridge race, 50
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  Miller. So as a lot of you guys probably
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  know, this is an out and back. So the Kilkeny Ridge race has a
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  25 KA, 25 mile, which is just one way traverse of the Kilkeny
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  Ridge range. And then the out and back would
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  be the 50 Miller. The stats, it's not quite 50
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  miles. Usually in the whites efforts
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  are longer than you know you have.
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  So whatever. Some of the races go longer than
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  you say because the trails are just long.
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  And if you know you can only permit a certain section and
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  trail, if it's close to 50, you call it 50.
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  But this trail is about I think the official distance.
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  If you look at a bunch of people's watches and it all
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  varies on how fast you do it, but I think it's 46 miles and
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  about 16,000 feet of climbing, maybe a touch less of climbing,
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  but it's a good race and the terrain.
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  So it's in the it's in the it's up north.
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  It's not as much in the A it's doesn't the AT doesn't go
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  through it. It's not super popular like the
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  Pemi or the presidential area. It doesn't get as much traffic
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  as those areas. So it's fairly quiet.
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  You get 24000 footers cabin womb back, which obviously get hiked
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  a bunch, but in between those peaks don't see a ton of action.
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  And the trails are actually very runnable and pretty nice
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  actually. So it's not as steep or as rocky
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  as you typically get in the whites.
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  It's a lot of lower incline runnable.
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  You know, it's Rudy a little rocky, but it's not that seeps,
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  you know, a roaded trails that you usually get.
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  So it's a it's a good race. I.
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  Think. In terms of the terrain, it's
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  it's faster, it's easier. You do have some easier miles.
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  It's not as steep or technical, but it is remote, which I think
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  adds a little bit of slows you down as far as like times, how
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  fast these times are one just because water.
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  So if you don't have a bunch of water, there's not many places
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  to fill it up. So you have to like go to the
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  age stations. So you have to carry more stuff
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  and that that Ridge can get so overgrown.
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  So in the summer it's horrible. I think nobody likes going back
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  there. It's very quiet.
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  I think I did one training training run on that on that
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  route and I saw like one person the whole day.
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  I did like 2020 or 25 miles. I only saw one person.
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  So it's very remote and it's super overgrown.
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  So you feel like that stuff, it's cool.
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  But you know, if you like to see where your feet are stepping or
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  running, it's not as cool. There's lots of blow down.
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  So I think 2 winters ago there it was a really bad winter.
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  We had a ton of blow downs and so there were a ton of you know,
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  logs over the trail. So it's just that sense slow.
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  It's not as Prezi technical slow as it is just remote slow.
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  But I think it is a faster course.
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  So and you don't have a ton of big climb.
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  So you have one big climb as you go up to Cabot and then one big
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  climb as you go up to womb back to two 4000 footers.
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  But in between like the Weeks Mount Terrace, I think it's
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  called, it's all like, you know, less than 1000 foot up and down
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  undulating, which I think is, you know, it doesn't take as
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  much out of your legs as as some races do.
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  So, but it's a good race. It's remote.
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  I mean, it's definitely one of the gnarlier 50 Millers in the
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  Northeast, maybe the country. So it's a good race and there's
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  been a lot of people that came out and done it.
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  So going into that race I was in pretty good shape.
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  I came off of Hellbender in May. I didn't have any injuries out
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  after Hellbender got back into training pretty smooth.
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  I think I had a fairly busy summer.
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  I don't think I did any other huge efforts.
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  I did some like moderate efforts, you know, not race
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  efforts or FKT stuff, but just longer days that summer.
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  And then this was the race I was doing in the fall of the Kilkeny
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  Ridge race. So I think it's mid-september
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  each year and going into it was not injured, was pretty fit,
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  like as fit as I had been and my training was pretty good.
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  So I was finally getting up in volume.
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  I was probably like before that Kilkeny Ridge race was probably
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  the first time that I was consistently did a block where I
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  did like 40 to 45 or 50 miles a week.
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  Like I would assume that that my last block was around 4550 miles
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  a week, which is really good for me.
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  I mean, that's a lot of vert. I couldn't tell you how much
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  time that took. Like I was probably 10 to 15
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  hours somewhere in there. So it was a good, it was a good
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  training block and I was feeling really good going into the race,
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  going into it. I really usually I have a
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  spreadsheet of how fast I want to do everything, but didn't
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  have that. I just was like, I'm going to
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  go, I want to compete. Initially there were a couple I
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  forget it was on the list. I know Larissa Danis McFadden
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  was on the list and she's a slugger.
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  I mean, she's a, she's just a New England crusher, ultra
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  runner crusher. I think she podiumed at Western
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  States back in the day. So that can tell you everything
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  you need to know about Larissa. But it was her.
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  And there's someone else big in the race, I forget, but they
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  both end up dropping out. Oh, it was Patrick Callahan.
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  Patrick Callahan was in the race too.
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  So there were a couple, you know, really, really strong
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  people. And there are other strong
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  people in the race too that ended up racing.
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  But there are a couple people. I knew I hadn't done the race
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  before. I'd done the Jigger Johnson 50.
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  So I was excited for it, feeling good going into it.
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  And actually one story that I'm remembering now about Patrick,
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  he had messaged me. I ran into him one time that
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  summer. So we ran together and then he
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  had messaged me maybe. Three weeks before the race, he
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  said. He was signed up and he said,
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  yeah, I, I just found out I have a fracture in my, in my ankle.
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  And but I think I should be good, you know, I should be good
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  for the race in, in three weeks. And I remember just being like,
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  what I think it wasn't, I don't think he had a fall like a bad
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  break like that, but I think it was maybe like a stress reaction
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  that it turned into a fracture or something.
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  He was having an ankle and he was convinced that it was fine.
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  He was just going to wrap it up and run it.
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  And I remember thinking. I don't know if I'm tough enough
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  to. I don't know if I'm tough enough
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  to compete with some of these guys.
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  These guys running on a broken ankle.
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  I mean, just running out on it for something is one thing, but
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  planning a race which I don't know.
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  But he's a study, he's a beast and he always, you know, goes
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  for big things. So did he didn't end up making,
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  I don't know what happened. I don't know if I had talked to
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  him before, but he didn't end up racing.
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  But anyway, going into that race was feeling good.
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  The one hiccup before the race which had happened was the
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  weekend before I was in southern Maine.
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  I was I was in in the woods off trail stuff.
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  And I got a tick and it was one of those little tiny ticks.
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  And I didn't realize the tick. And two or three days later, so
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  the Tuesday before the race, Monday or Tuesday before the
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  race, I'm like shower or whatever, and I see this little
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  tick on my ankle and it had been there for over 2 days, all
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  right, 'cause I known where it came from and I just didn't do a
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  good tick trick or whatever. And I had a tick.
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  It was enlarged. The thing was red.
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  It was super small. It was like one of those tiny
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  ones. But I got bit by a tick and I
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  remember thinking, shoot, I probably need to go and get the,
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  the antibiotics or whatever that you're supposed to get when you
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  get bit by a tick. And I don't like taking, you
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  know, medications. I always like very, I want to
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  know about it before I take something.
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  So antibiotics, I mean, everyone knows what antibiotics are, but
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  they kill all of your bacteria. And for me, I'm thinking, one,
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  it can upset your stomach for a couple days and two, it's going
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  to kill all of my gut bacteria. And so for the layman, they may
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  just say, like, you know, who cares?
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  Whatever, just get over it, take it, whatever.
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  But for me, I'm like, I've worked so hard training my gut,
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  eating food on runs. I know what works for me.
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  Is this going to mess it up Four days before race taking, taking
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  antibiotics And I almost didn't take it, but I was like, all
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  right, no, you know, you don't want, if you did want like get
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  Lyme disease, you don't want to like ruin your running career,
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  whatever. So I'm like, no, it's just take
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  it and, and you'll deal with it. Because I, I remember looking at
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  the stat, I was like, all right, well, how many?
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  I don't know. I've never had.
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  I've, I've had ticks on me a bunch.
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  I've got bit a couple times. You pick them off, it's fine.
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  But I've never dove into the what's Lyme disease.
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  So I remember I was like, how many ticks have Lyme disease in
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  Maine? And I looked it up and it was
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  like 50%. I was like, oh gosh, OK.
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  I thought it was like if it was a 10% or 15%, I would have just
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  rolled the dice probably. But I was like, all right, now I
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  don't want Lyme disease. So I got the shot.
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  I remember my stomach was upset for a couple days and I was kind
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  of like, but I've I've never had like a major stomach issues,
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  knock on wood so. I was like, I think it'll.
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  Be fine going into the race, my stomach didn't hurt going into
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  it so it ended up being fine. And during the race, I think
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  towards the end, it was a hot day and I don't think I was
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  eating as much as I wanted to, but I don't really think it had
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  affected me at all. So I think it all ended up being
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  good. But that was one thing.
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  I was like, oh man. And I didn't, I think I told my
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  maybe my parents, but I didn't tell anyone I didn't want to
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  like make it a thing or I would just wanted to kind of ignore
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  it, pretend everything was good and just go and run.
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  So but yeah, I took, I ran that race on a full course of
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  antibiotics that the week of which I would not suggest for
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  like anyone tapering or anything just because it's going to throw
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  your body out of whack. But luckily I didn't ruin things
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  catastrophically for me, for me. So that was the one, the one
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  thing before the race. And I think in a one sense
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  you're like, how, why did this happen?
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  Now I've never got bit by a tick.
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  I've never had to say these antibiotics.
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  But in another sense, I do think that there are so many
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  controllables in life, whatever you're trying to do that you
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  can't actually control. And it's like, all right, next
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  time I have a race, I'm doing tick checks before.
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  Like it sounds kind of stupid and silly, but there's so many
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  things that you can do to like, all right, make sure this
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  doesn't happen. So it was a learning lesson.
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  I'm not going to do crazy bushwhack, always going to check
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  for ticks before races and just in general, it's good practice.
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  That was one thing I learned before the race.
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  But so the race starts, it's a very, very early race.
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  You start at 5:00 AM and at the beginning of the race I had
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  known a few of the people in it was doing some, you know,
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  ultrasound of snooping couple guys from Canada who were pretty
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  strong. And so I kind of had a.
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  Good feel for the race. And my plan going into it was to
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  get to the top of Cabot, which is about 9 miles in and they
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  just stay with whoever was running there up until Cabot and
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  then Cabot on the descent, try to come drop whoever was there
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  and then just kind of go the rest of the day.
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  That was kind of the plan because I want to pace it good.
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  I'm like I, I always say I'm a little, I'm more confident my
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  downhill than my uphill. So that was the plan for the
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  day. So we start in the dark.
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  And I think. Six of us took off at a pretty
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  good pace. You know what, like most races
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  and just taking off, it wasn't anything crazy, but it was, you
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  know, it was faster. So like, all right, this is a
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  good group going out. And the first thing I remember
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  from that race, the first few miles are very runnable.
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  It's a lower grade so it's pretty runnable.
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  So I think. A few of us were running.
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  I was probably mixing a little bit of power hiking in between
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  people that were running just 'cause it was a little clip of a
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  grade. But the first big thing I
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  remember from that race was it's up north.
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  Lots of moose up there. And we heard maybe a mile or two
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  in, you're near South Pond, a lot of moose around.
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  We heard this big thing through the woods just crashing off to
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  our left. And just from experience, I know
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  that's pretty much going to be a moose.
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  Bears are a lot quieter. Nothing else really sounds that
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  big. I mean, it sounded like a truck
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  going through the woods. So it's probably just a moose.
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  And it's during kind of the running season, which is the
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  only time where moose get a little dicey.
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  And so I'm running. And I remember being, you know,
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  we're hearing this moose. And it didn't just go away.
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  It felt like it was running with us for, I don't know, 50, 70, a
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  100 yards, almost like it, it felt like it was following us
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  for a while. And in my head, because we were
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  talking about it in my head, I was like I was in a like third.
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  There were two people ahead of me and maybe two or three people
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  behind me and I was thinking I'm in the perfect spot right now.
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  Moose jumps out in front of us, sees us on the trails, mad at
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  us. I got 2 body Shields in front of
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  me. I leap around those two as the
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  moose gets them and go and I'm in first.
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  Moose comes behind, they get the two people.
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  And I get I. Have time to maneuver around.
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  Maybe I try to, you know, I don't know, pony up, you know,
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  jump into second place and get, you know, so I got three people
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  behind me, but I got time and I'm thinking.
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  If if it just. Lines up we're we're running
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  pretty fast and the moose comes out and just hits the middle of
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  the pack. Just me out of nowhere.
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  It's like, alright, good game you got me.
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  Hats off to you. But I felt pretty comfortable
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  safe from the moose. But eventually the moose walked
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  off and or ran off and it was fine.
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  So that was that was one thing I did remember.
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  And then after that I remember I was talking a bunch with the two
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  guys from Canada and they just had a bunch of cool stories.
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  Sounds like they had done some trail races stuff around them
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  that were pretty big and so we we were kind of talking a lot.
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  And I had. Remembered that this guy made a
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  comment and I don't know if this played any part into my psyche,
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  but this guy behind us is one of the younger guys in the race.
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  I talked to him for a while, I forget his name.
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  I haven't looked at the list recently, but he we were talking
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  with me and the Canadians and he said like we were talking just
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  kind of talking a lot. And the guy was like, I don't
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  know if someone said like, oh, sorry, we're talking like, or
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  whatever. And he he just said something
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  like, no, I actually, I actually love it.
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  It's kind of like I'm just listening to a podcast.
• 19:16
  So maybe that was my first official podcast with those two
• 19:19
  guys. Maybe I have to have those guys
• 19:21
  on eventually if I ever see him again.
• 19:23
  Vincent and Sam were their names.
• 19:26
  I forgot their last names, but if you go on the list, you'll
• 19:28
  find them. We had all chatted at the end of
• 19:30
  the race and they were they were, they were cool guys.
• 19:32
  But yeah, so that that was another thing I remember on the
• 19:35
  way up. And then as you get to the first
• 19:38
  aid station, it's before the Cabot.
• 19:41
  It's maybe 6 or 7 miles in. It's near Unknown Pond.
• 19:45
  That's where the first aid station is.
• 19:48
  We get there and we're all in a pack, the six of us.
• 19:51
  And I roll in, I fill my bottle like I just need, I knew what I
• 19:54
  needed. I got one thing and I went out
• 19:56
  there and everyone else kind of was being a little bit or I
• 19:59
  don't know, I think I was just first in line at the water
• 20:01
  bottle thing and they were just maybe taking a little extra
• 20:03
  time. So, like, all right, Nice.
• 20:05
  So I'm just going to go and I was in a race.
• 20:07
  I wasn't like trying to, but I, I mean, I was in a race.
• 20:10
  So I went and I figured they would catch up like I was going
• 20:12
  to I'm dropping these guys. But I go and I'm, I'm feeling
• 20:15
  good and I don't see anyone behind me and I'm thinking, oh,
• 20:18
  wow, that's kind of crazy. And so I started going a little
• 20:22
  bit easier almost to let them catch up.
• 20:24
  Like I was like, I don't need to go fast.
• 20:25
  I'm just going to go kind of chill.
• 20:26
  So I was going leisurely and then, you know, 5 minutes in up
• 20:30
  in front of me, I see like a a bright yellow shirt.
• 20:33
  I'm thinking what the heck? And I'm getting closer and the
• 20:36
  guys running the same direction as me.
• 20:37
  I'm like, wow, this like this hiker, like what is the this
• 20:41
  hiker is doing a unknown pawn to Cabot Loop and it just timed it
• 20:46
  perfectly where I caught up to him.
• 20:47
  That's kind of weird. And then I get up to to him and
• 20:50
  he's in the race. So I didn't even see this guy
• 20:54
  pass me. I thought I was in first and he
• 20:56
  was actually in first. I was thinking, Oh, thank God I
• 20:58
  caught up to him because you know, who knows what would have
• 21:00
  happened if I just hung back and thought I was in first the whole
• 21:03
  day or whatever. So caught up to him and I was
• 21:06
  like, all right, well, that's fine.
• 21:07
  Like I'm glad I saw him and I'll just get up.
• 21:09
  Just, you know, same plane get the cab at first.
• 21:12
  So followed up and that was Sam Locke.
• 21:14
  He's from Goss Town too, actually, and strong runner and
• 21:18
  he was running some of the uphills at that point.
• 21:19
  I was thinking like, oh, this guy's strong.
• 21:20
  Like all right, this is this is pretty good.
• 21:22
  This is going to be a good little good race.
• 21:24
  So get up to Cabot and kind of like as planned, actually waited
• 21:28
  till we got off the summit of Cabot to the little cabin.
• 21:31
  I had said to him, and I don't know if this was disrespectful,
• 21:35
  but I said to him, like, oh, you mind if I jump past for this
• 21:37
  dissent? And I think he kind of pulled
• 21:39
  over and I actually don't remember if he said anything.
• 21:41
  That's maybe why I was like, oh, was that was that mean to say?
• 21:43
  Because I was running with him and talking with him.
• 21:46
  But. He pulled over.
• 21:48
  I I went and I, I pretty much just kind of yet I dropped him
• 21:53
  and I don't know how fast I wasn't like looking back, but I
• 21:55
  dropped him and I figured that I would because I was going a
• 21:57
  little bit faster on the descent.
• 21:58
  But I always think back, remember, like, I don't know, is
• 22:00
  that disrespectful to ask like, hello, Sir, can I pass you?
• 22:04
  Because it was kind of like a, it was, it wasn't like I can
• 22:07
  get, it was like a tight single track and like if I had room to
• 22:12
  get around him, I would have just done it.
• 22:14
  But I just figured we've been running for a little bit.
• 22:16
  We've been talking like I think I said something about our youth
• 22:19
  guy from Goffstown. I live there too.
• 22:21
  So we're chatting like felt like we were so much friendly.
• 22:24
  And so I thought it was fine to ask, but I don't know if that's
• 22:28
  fine to ask. It's a 50 mile race is a long
• 22:30
  distance race. Like I don't know.
• 22:31
  So, but I did and he was nice enough to pull over and I went
• 22:34
  by him and yeah, at that point I pretty much dropped him at the
• 22:39
  end of the Cabot climb. Then as you start going over to
• 22:42
  like the weeks, or I think the first climb is Terrace Mountain,
• 22:46
  I, I in my head, like I said, the uphills, I'm always working
• 22:50
  a little hard on the uphills, feel better about the downhills.
• 22:52
  So on the uphill, I was thinking, all right, it would be
• 22:54
  nice if I can get up the uphill alone.
• 22:57
  And then on the downhill I'll just be making up time.
• 22:59
  Like that's how I kind of felt about it.
• 23:01
  And so I was like working decently hard.
• 23:03
  There was an aid station before that climb, so I think I had
• 23:07
  heard him like I could still heard cheering when he came in
• 23:10
  behind me. So I knew he was relatively
• 23:11
  close before the climb, but that was kind of the goal for the
• 23:15
  climb. Went up and I never saw him.
• 23:18
  Went down and I was like all right, feeling pretty good.
• 23:21
  And I was feeling pretty good overall.
• 23:22
  And honestly over terrace and kind of like the rest of that
• 23:26
  underlying Ridge, I was just alone.
• 23:29
  No one caught up, didn't hear anything.
• 23:31
  It was kind of just to myself. I was feeling pretty good and
• 23:33
  things were going fairly smooth. It was a hotter day, very dry
• 23:38
  that summer, that 2024 summer, so dry, which was good.
• 23:42
  The trails were dry, but there was no water really to to get so
• 23:46
  you. I was carrying a little more
• 23:47
  water and it was pretty hot out, but feeling good and honestly,
• 23:52
  no really things to report on in that middle section.
• 23:55
  I mean, I didn't see any moose. I didn't see any people.
• 23:57
  It was fairly good, like easy day like or, or just like a
• 24:01
  regular day in the mountains. So nothing really that I can
• 24:03
  remember that stood out. But at some point in the day, I
• 24:07
  think the 25 mileage start at 7:00 or 8:00.
• 24:10
  So at some point in the day I started seeing those guys come
• 24:12
  up. I think it's 7, so I don't know
• 24:14
  where I saw them, but it was somewhere around the weeks where
• 24:17
  I started seeing people and that was kind of like a nice boost.
• 24:20
  It's cool to see people on a mountain back.
• 24:22
  We probably have the same amount of energy.
• 24:24
  It wasn't like I'm at the end of the race and they're super
• 24:26
  energetic, so I didn't really need an uplifting spirit.
• 24:29
  But it was cool to see people and you know, you see some of
• 24:31
  the top runners and whatever so did that was running.
• 24:36
  It's it. It is.
• 24:36
  Kind of funny to like, I don't know how many people were in
• 24:38
  that race, but you know, once you.
• 24:40
  Pass the 1st. Maybe 10 or 20 people or I don't
• 24:43
  know, maybe 10 that are kind of like, I don't want to say more
• 24:47
  aware, but probably more in the, in the trail running space, more
• 24:51
  aware of all the details and everything.
• 24:54
  Kind of towards the back of the Packers.
• 24:56
  Some people, a lot of people were asking like, Oh, are you,
• 24:58
  why are you? Why are you going this way?
• 25:00
  Like I was in the race that they were in, but I had turned
• 25:03
  around, which I thought was just kind of funny.
• 25:05
  I don't know, I guess I, I don't know the whole shuttling, like
• 25:08
  where they had to meet or whatever, but I don't know.
• 25:10
  And also when you're in a race, maybe your brain just a little
• 25:12
  mush, but I remember. A couple of people would said
• 25:14
  that. I just thought that was kind of
• 25:15
  curious. I remember I saw a couple people
• 25:17
  that I knew, so it's cool, you know, cool to see them say hi
• 25:21
  quick and then kept moving. And the weeks that is like the
• 25:28
  pinnacle of the weeds and the blow downs.
• 25:31
  I think before the race they usually do a little bit of trail
• 25:34
  work. So the trails are the best they
• 25:35
  are. All year right before the
• 25:38
  Kilkeny Ridge race. So anything big or like easy to
• 25:41
  clip is pretty good. But in that section it is just
• 25:44
  kind of up and down. You're in the middle of nowhere
• 25:46
  getting tired. Those are like hard.
• 25:48
  Mountains, I will. I will say it's a it's a cool
• 25:50
  vibe out there. It's very backwoods, ferny,
• 25:53
  moosey, that's how it looks. So it's a cool little area if
• 25:56
  you haven't got out on it, but that went fairly smooth.
• 26:01
  The only thing that happened on that section is I I hit my head
• 26:05
  really hard on some sort of branch or thing that was
• 26:07
  overhead that I guess was in there pretty good and I chipped
• 26:10
  my tooth a little bit. On that race, I remember like my
• 26:13
  neck really hurt at first. I was like, did I?
• 26:15
  Is my neck OK? Yeah, I think I'm good.
• 26:16
  I can feel and everything. And so that.
• 26:19
  Had happened, which was it was just a tiny little chip but I
• 26:22
  remember that hurting be like OK wake up.
• 26:24
  I always hit my head like. I'm I'm a little bit taller 61
• 26:28
  so and I think my awareness outside of where I'm focused on
• 26:32
  maybe is lower is I don't know if I had like a Madden, Madden
• 26:36
  rating my periphery peripheral awareness is probably.
• 26:42
  Like a 65 because I hit my head a lot basically and the woods,
• 26:46
  especially in the winter when you have that snow pack in the
• 26:48
  whites. I'm just getting hit in the Dome
• 26:49
  all the time. But that would the chip the
• 26:52
  tooth and then got up to Mount Wombach Wombach down to the the
• 26:58
  highway there, which is like the turn around point, the halfway
• 27:01
  point. It would I was really I was out
• 27:03
  of water. I was really hot and I was, I
• 27:06
  was just like I. Need water.
• 27:07
  I'm I'm it's very hot out. It wasn't super hot, but it was
• 27:10
  definitely mid to high seventies probably humid for September.
• 27:14
  It's like hot harder than it was that it had been and I was
• 27:18
  really feeling it. So going down there I was kind
• 27:21
  of like, all right, I need to get to the safe station and so
• 27:25
  far the the race had gone pretty much perfect.
• 27:28
  I think I, I did the, you know, did the plant up the cabin, took
• 27:31
  it easy up there and then started working a little bit
• 27:33
  harder, nutrition, everything was eating, drinking enough, was
• 27:36
  feeling pretty good. I wanted, I was aiming for
• 27:40
  probably roughly 11 hours, so I was thinking like 530 out 530
• 27:43
  back and I think I did the the traverse in 530 or 535.
• 27:48
  So it's like up to halfway perfect, which is how a lot of
• 27:52
  ultras go. This is the first half of an
• 27:55
  ultra is not the test of how fast you can run guys.
• 27:58
  It is the second-half. So this is where things a few
• 28:01
  mistakes happen. Not not big, but I felt like
• 28:03
  they were big or something that I like to try to just be.
• 28:06
  Cleaner on next time I get down there.
• 28:10
  I had a drop bag at the halfway section and I had an ice bandana
• 28:14
  and I know that these guys have ice.
• 28:16
  I was going to get it wet, going to get ice.
• 28:18
  Could cool off and it was going to be awesome.
• 28:20
  I've used ice bandana before. I really like it.
• 28:22
  And somehow in my drop bag in the morning, pulling stuff out,
• 28:26
  putting stuff in a last minute switch, I took the ice bandana
• 28:29
  out. So I'm like, Oh my gosh.
• 28:31
  And I was really big on like the cooling kick.
• 28:33
  Like this is where like in Western states you start seeing
• 28:35
  everyone doing the every, everyone's on the cooling.
• 28:38
  And so I'm really trying to do it and I'm asking like, do you
• 28:42
  guys have like AT shirt or something?
• 28:43
  I put ice in like I ran. An ice bandana.
• 28:45
  And luckily one of the ACH volunteers did so they gave me
• 28:49
  AT shirt and wrapped ice in and I was like.
• 28:51
  Thank you like so much. This is awesome.
• 28:54
  So I get my stuff. It was kind of like a little bit
• 28:56
  probably a couple minutes there, but I get the ice band in a
• 28:59
  shirt going up. I have this big shirt with ice
• 29:02
  in it on the back of my neck. I'm going up Mount Wombach, the
• 29:05
  last big climb. And then you really can start
• 29:07
  pushing, pushing up, pushing down.
• 29:09
  And I cannot feel a drip of this water or ice getting to me.
• 29:13
  It's basically just, it's such a big T-shirt.
• 29:17
  It's all getting absorbed. It wasn't working.
• 29:20
  And then I start realizing some of the ice is falling out 'cause
• 29:23
  we were just trying to makeshift a little thing right there.
• 29:25
  And it's the shirts like starting to get damp, but ice is
• 29:29
  falling out and it's like it's not even worth it.
• 29:31
  And so now I'm climbing up while I'm back.
• 29:34
  I was supposed to be doing fat all this stuff and I had a
• 29:39
  waterlog, a warm waterlogged big T-shirt that I just had to carry
• 29:45
  the rest of the way, which doesn't sound like a big deal,
• 29:47
  but one water weighs a lot like the ice finally melted at least
• 29:51
  a little bit where it wasn't helping me, but it was weighing
• 29:53
  in the shirt and I have this shirt and I.
• 29:56
  Told the guy I would give it back to.
• 29:57
  Him and so many times I was just thinking just Chuck the the bad
• 30:04
  devil on my shoulder was like just Chuck the shirt, get it,
• 30:07
  you know, find it later, get you know, you won't see this guy at
• 30:10
  the end. But I was like, no, that's
• 30:11
  wrong. He helped me out.
• 30:13
  You don't want to, you know, dip.
• 30:14
  It and then who knows what I can get get it again.
• 30:17
  So I didn't throw it. I packed it on my pack and on my
• 30:20
  pack has this extra thing that I didn't need waterlogged wasn't
• 30:23
  helping me and on top of all that, I'm I'm hot like I didn't
• 30:27
  get any of the benefits of the cooling.
• 30:29
  So that was one thing. How much did it prevent me?
• 30:32
  I don't know. Is it a couple minutes?
• 30:34
  Is it 51015? If you say, who knows what it
• 30:37
  is, But it's, it's these races you have to execute perfectly.
• 30:41
  You have to be extremely fit. And that's what I'm really
• 30:44
  chasing after. Like I'm trying to be the best
• 30:46
  that I can and run all of my runs the best that I can.
• 30:50
  And this is just something I messed up and like learning for
• 30:53
  later. So the nice thing, the second
• 30:56
  thing at the halfway point, I did have polls.
• 30:58
  So I had some lucky polls that I used.
• 31:01
  I'm not a huge pole person. I don't use poles at all
• 31:04
  anymore. Like in training I didn't use it
• 31:06
  on the lodge to dodge, which is 72 miles 28,000 feet avert.
• 31:10
  I always said getting into ultra running, the longer it is, the
• 31:13
  more vert you have in the whites, the more you know, the
• 31:16
  more I was apartment to use them.
• 31:17
  But as I've gotten a little bit longer in the sport, I don't
• 31:23
  know. I just don't seem like they help
• 31:25
  me. They definitely take weight off
• 31:28
  of your legs, which I understand, you know, you're
• 31:30
  saving your legs for later in races, long races, but the force
• 31:35
  that you're using in your arms cost your body more oxygen and
• 31:40
  and energy than it would if you just did it through your legs.
• 31:43
  Because your arms are smaller, muscles have to work harder to
• 31:46
  use the same force, and then you're carrying extra weight.
• 31:50
  So when I use poles, it for sure feels like I'm going slower and
• 31:53
  my heart rate's probably a little bit higher, but it saves
• 31:56
  the legs. So it's like a, you know, if you
• 31:58
  if you think your legs are strong enough and they won't
• 32:00
  give out at the last couple. Climbs, then don't use.
• 32:02
  Poles, but if they didn't, they will they probably would help.
• 32:05
  So there's a fine line. I think a lot of the stuff in
• 32:07
  the whites, they probably do help and the longer you go, the
• 32:10
  the more they do help. But for me, I would not run that
• 32:13
  again with with poles. I think I would just get my legs
• 32:15
  stronger and and more ready for the race.
• 32:18
  So that was the other thing. And then honestly, the way back,
• 32:22
  pretty uneventful. Like I said, I was alone.
• 32:25
  I had never seen anyone at the halfway point going up Wambach,
• 32:28
  I saw 23456. You know, people started coming
• 32:32
  in and I remember that they were closer than I thought they would
• 32:35
  be. Then I thought they would
• 32:37
  because I was going pretty fast. And you know, who knows?
• 32:39
  I didn't know what people's goals or whatever was, but it's
• 32:43
  always. Yeah, there's, you know, in race
• 32:46
  there's always people right behind it.
• 32:47
  That's just you kind of think about even if I haven't seen
• 32:49
  anyone in so long, there's people around you.
• 32:52
  So I always remember like, all right, like this is not this
• 32:54
  race. Is this is a race though.
• 32:56
  You got to go. But yeah, once I got to Wombat I
• 32:59
  again, I was, I was, I was like, all right, I'm going to start
• 33:02
  pushing, especially in the down. So the rest of it was
• 33:04
  uneventful. So low, you know, all the 20
• 33:08
  fivers are are gone. So it's just me again.
• 33:11
  Dry, hot, and I think this is when the food stopped going down
• 33:14
  as good, but nothing like crazy like that.
• 33:18
  I can that I can note, you know, a year and a half later.
• 33:23
  But yeah, that was that. I think the weeks were super
• 33:27
  annoying. I just think they go slower than
• 33:30
  you always think that they will. So they were just still super
• 33:32
  annoying on the way back, which is fine.
• 33:34
  And then you don't getting getting close to the Cabot.
• 33:37
  You start feeling like, all right, you know, we're getting
• 33:39
  there. And the final climb up to Cabot,
• 33:42
  I was really trying to push. I think I remember in the back
• 33:44
  of my head, I don't know if I was looking at times, but.
• 33:47
  The course record on this route was 10. 50.
• 33:49
  Eight, I think maybe, or I don't know if these, but Peter Howe
• 33:52
  just went under 11 hours, who was like in old school, kind of
• 33:56
  off the grid crusher. I don't know how much he runs a
• 33:59
  race anymore, but he's done. He he's just, yeah, he's a
• 34:02
  crusher very fast. And then Zach McCarthy had the
• 34:04
  best time, the second best time on the route.
• 34:07
  And I remember Zach's time up Cabot was pretty good.
• 34:11
  So I was like, all right, once I got to that, I was like, I need
• 34:13
  to start. Pushing a little bit so I did
• 34:15
  and I don't think I got close to his time, to be honest.
• 34:17
  I was using the poles. I remember it felt fine, but
• 34:19
  it's just I, I, it was a hotter day.
• 34:24
  I think the yeah, it was it, it just, I wasn't going fast enough
• 34:27
  to, I just wasn't fast enough. Basically.
• 34:29
  It was what it was. So I had a good effort, but it
• 34:31
  wasn't like I had known when I got to the top of cabin.
• 34:34
  I'm probably not close to the course record, but you know,
• 34:37
  whatever. Coming down cabinet I I think
• 34:40
  was fairly uneventful and then coming down, I think it's the
• 34:43
  bulge basically. Yeah, there was a handful of
• 34:48
  people, a group just hiking. And there was a big.
• 34:50
  Log across the thing. And so me, these people and the
• 34:54
  log all come at the same time. I basically slow down to let
• 34:57
  them by because I don't even think they know I'm going to
• 34:58
  race. And I roll my ankle like
• 35:01
  classic, I've been running the whole time and I go to stop and
• 35:04
  I roll my ankle, rolled it pretty good.
• 35:07
  So this is the last like big thing that I kind of messed up
• 35:10
  and I am I, I don't know how far I was away, but maybe 7 miles
• 35:14
  left, 6 miles left. And I, I mean, I was in first
• 35:17
  place. I was moving really well and I
• 35:18
  was thinking not like this, not like this.
• 35:23
  And it really hurt like it was a good role.
• 35:25
  It wasn't like, you know, so that I couldn't walk off, but I
• 35:29
  it definitely was like limping had limp walked it off for a
• 35:32
  while for probably a quarter mile.
• 35:35
  I couldn't even run. I was just kind of limping it
• 35:37
  off and thinking, come on, you idiot, you were moving.
• 35:39
  So, well, you're going so fast. You were get you were definitely
• 35:42
  in the 11 hour range and you freaking rolled your ankle.
• 35:46
  So that was like a mistake. I would not roll your ankle in
• 35:49
  races. That's probably a good hack for
• 35:51
  you guys out there. Yeah, that should be a 62nd tip
• 35:54
  that it will be a 62nd tip one day.
• 35:56
  Don't roll your ankle during a race.
• 35:58
  Boom if you have any questions. Go to runmountaingeeks.com.
• 36:01
  Like what? So yeah, that happened.
• 36:06
  Eventually I started running again and I think.
• 36:10
  I, I got moving and getting good and I'm like, OK, I can finish
• 36:13
  this out. Like, you know, once you get the
• 36:14
  blood flow and you don't want to stop and get locked up, you want
• 36:17
  to keep it going, like keep walking on, do whatever you can
• 36:19
  so you can kind of get by and eventually it stops hurting as
• 36:22
  much. And I was starting to run again.
• 36:25
  So I probably lost, you know, 5/10/15 minutes or whatever,
• 36:28
  which my mistake. This is not like I should have
• 36:31
  rent. I should have done this time
• 36:32
  there. Like I made all these mistakes
• 36:34
  going into the race and during the race, which I want to clean
• 36:37
  up for next time and. So at the aid station, I stopped
• 36:43
  the last aid station, 6 miles left and I stopped for a little
• 36:46
  bit and within a minute my ankle locked up again and I had to do
• 36:48
  kind of a limp out after that. And I was.
• 36:49
  Thinking Oh my gosh. But finally it, it felt pretty
• 36:53
  good. The last couple little climbs, I
• 36:55
  was just being a bit like I, I ran it pretty good, but I, I
• 36:58
  wasn't being a baby as much. I was just tired.
• 37:01
  I think my legs were tired. I was getting close to, you
• 37:04
  know, it was a good. Run for me and.
• 37:08
  I was going a little bit slower on the on the descents or on the
• 37:10
  ascents. And then the last descent
• 37:13
  actually started catching up to some of the 25 milers, which I
• 37:16
  was like, I wasn't even doing the math, like I didn't know how
• 37:19
  long, whatever, but started catching up to a few of those
• 37:22
  and I started running hard at the end.
• 37:23
  Like I finished that race out hard.
• 37:26
  I looked actually today and I I went out like 8103830830 on like
• 37:30
  a decent, not a decent like. You know.
• 37:33
  White Mountain terrain, I don't know, a semi slope might you
• 37:37
  know, moderate grade White Mountain terrain, which is
• 37:39
  pretty good to go to, you know, sub 10 minute pace at the end of
• 37:43
  a 50 Miller. And in the last two miles I was
• 37:47
  really pushing like I was pushing myself.
• 37:49
  It hurt and I was getting close, you know, a lot of myself.
• 37:53
  I shouldn't say the most the best of myself, but I was
• 37:56
  pushing pretty hard. And I remember at one point
• 37:57
  like, oh, I must be run at six. This is going to be a 630 mile.
• 38:01
  Like I am Killian Jornay, Jim Walmsley out here.
• 38:04
  I'm flying right down this mountain and my watch clicks
• 38:08
  8:30. And you're kind of like, all
• 38:09
  right, that puts things into perspective.
• 38:11
  Feels like I'm 5K right now. And but yeah, last mile 2 was an
• 38:16
  830 and I remember getting to the end and these races, like
• 38:20
  I've experienced this a lot at the end of these ultras, like
• 38:23
  sometimes there's not a lot of people if it's at night, all
• 38:25
  these things. But I guess to the end, I think
• 38:27
  25 milers were coming in and I get to the end.
• 38:31
  I don't think you will realize that I was the 1st place
• 38:34
  finisher. Like I, I don't think, I think
• 38:37
  I, I sprinted in and I was going so hard.
• 38:39
  That was the first time that I ended in the ultra sprinting
• 38:41
  through the finish line. And maybe I just wasn't paying
• 38:44
  attention, but I don't think everyone had known that I had
• 38:47
  just finished the 50 mile, which was, which was cool, but I
• 38:50
  hoofed it and at the end I just kind of like dropped to my knee.
• 38:53
  I was like, I was very much like I felt sick.
• 38:57
  I, I, you know, I left it all out there, which was good.
• 38:59
  It was like a good finish. Ended it in 11-40 something
• 39:03
  11:42 maybe which was the 4th fastest time on that course and
• 39:09
  I was only 6 seconds behind Ben Nephew's third fastest.
• 39:13
  So it's Peter Howe, Zach McCarthy, both around 11 hours
• 39:16
  and then 11:40 was the next best time.
• 39:18
  So it was a great time. I was very happy with the
• 39:21
  effort. All in all, I think it went
• 39:23
  well. Like every old she had some
• 39:25
  mistakes that I that I want to clean up for next time.
• 39:27
  But it went very well and I was I was happy with with the
• 39:30
  effort. I was like if I had.
• 39:32
  Known that the third fastest time I could have gone 6 seconds
• 39:35
  faster probably, but. Obviously like, you know, it's
• 39:37
  also like, who cares? Like you ain't first, you last,
• 39:40
  you didn't get the course record, you last.
• 39:43
  So, you know, whatever. But yeah.
• 39:45
  And then at the end of the race, I remember Nick and Jackie were
• 39:49
  like, hey, you want like this or you want this and that?
• 39:51
  I just need you. OK.
• 39:53
  I was like, I think I just. Need a minute?
• 39:55
  So I took a little minute to myself and I walked down to the
• 39:58
  South pond because it was like it was still.
• 40:01
  It was the. Evening, so it was light out,
• 40:03
  nice pond, lots of food, good vibes, probably a fire.
• 40:06
  People did the whole 9 and I was just kind of like trying to come
• 40:10
  too. And this one older lady who had
• 40:13
  finished the 25 mile, I forget her name, I don't even know if
• 40:15
  I'd known her name, but she had a kind of like a chair set up.
• 40:19
  In the water? Is that how it happened?
• 40:21
  Maybe. Or maybe I pulled so much or
• 40:22
  whatever, But she was like, do you want to sit here?
• 40:26
  Because she could kind of tell that I was.
• 40:27
  So I kind of sat down and was just like putting my feet in the
• 40:29
  water, like trying to just recoup.
• 40:31
  She was like, do you? And she was eating something,
• 40:35
  maybe like some sort of bar or something.
• 40:37
  And. And I think she was like, and
• 40:38
  then maybe I was looking at it in a certain sense.
• 40:41
  And her motherly instincts kicked in essentially because
• 40:43
  she was a little bit older, but she still crushed 25 Miller.
• 40:46
  She's like, do you want this? And I was like, yeah, can I have
• 40:49
  that? Yeah, get out of that.
• 40:50
  And then I think she brought me a cup of like some sort of juice
• 40:53
  or something. They're very sweet of her, very
• 40:54
  kind. Of her.
• 40:55
  But I was really I was. Useless at the end of that.
• 40:58
  I just had to take a. Little minute.
• 41:00
  So that's how that race ended. And the other thing from the end
• 41:04
  of that race that I remember was those Canadians, they finished.
• 41:07
  So the next I think Sam came in 2nd 1310 maybe.
• 41:12
  So like an almost an hour and a half behind me.
• 41:15
  So I was there for a while just kind of hanging out, recouping.
• 41:18
  I was driving myself home. So I don't know.
• 41:19
  I was just kind of hanging out, I guess.
• 41:21
  Eventually they came in and. It was like 2-3, four were all
• 41:26
  really right in a row. And then two of those guys were
• 41:29
  the Canadians and they had a couple of people in the 25
• 41:32
  Miller race that they all came down like had an Airbnb kind of
• 41:36
  for the race. And so they were all kind of
• 41:38
  hanging out and I kind of got in their circle somehow.
• 41:40
  Like I was in a chair and I kind of was chatting them up a little
• 41:42
  bit and we were talking, you know, just kind of like shooting
• 41:46
  the shit a little bit, telling different stories.
• 41:48
  And once in a while these guys would go into to French because
• 41:53
  they were obviously French Canadian, I would assume.
• 41:56
  So they would, you know, we'd be talking emotionally English and
• 41:58
  they would, they would say something in French since, you
• 41:59
  know, sometimes they would laugh and I, I, they definitely were
• 42:02
  not like making jokes at me. I mean, maybe I maybe they were,
• 42:05
  who knows, Like very, I could, that is very plausible, but I
• 42:08
  don't think they weren't it not in a mean way.
• 42:10
  Like they were very fun, nice people.
• 42:12
  And but at one, one of the times they had told a joke or
• 42:15
  something or a story and I was just like, Hey, man, I kind of
• 42:17
  want to know what you got. What are you guys laughing at?
• 42:20
  And I think they had told me or whatever I would, if I could
• 42:23
  learn a second language, it would be French.
• 42:25
  I don't know if my brain will do it.
• 42:27
  Maybe I'll learn French one day. That maybe, who knows?
• 42:31
  But so that was a race. That was a Kilkeny Ridge race.
• 42:34
  I ended up driving myself home that night, which was kind of a
• 42:37
  grind, but it was just one of the short, you know, it's a
• 42:40
  shorter, you know, like super crush from it.
• 42:43
  But that was that was pretty much the race.
• 42:45
  And so, yeah, it it went pretty good.
• 42:48
  It was kind of uneventful. So to make some funny things in
• 42:51
  there, but nothing like Super mega learned about the
• 42:54
  antibiotics, learned about kind of the ticks, learned about some
• 42:57
  things on course. But All in all, it was a super
• 43:00
  good race. I really liked it and I have
• 43:02
  some unfinished business there for sure.
• 43:05
  So I think, I think I had mentioned this, but the Kilkenny
• 43:09
  50 and the Jigger Johnson 50I do want to do again.
• 43:12
  And because I had done those when I was more getting into it,
• 43:15
  so I feel like I'm more fit now and you know, have more to give
• 43:18
  it. Both of those races for sure.
• 43:20
  So this year I have a wedding conflict with the Jigger
• 43:24
  Johnson, I believe, or maybe the wedding the weekend before.
• 43:27
  I have a long wedding weekend, so can't do the Jigger Johnson,
• 43:30
  but the Kilkenny 50 maybe what I'm going to do this year is one
• 43:33
  of the races. So could be doing that this
• 43:35
  year. I looked at the sign up list.
• 43:38
  It doesn't look like they're super booked right now.
• 43:40
  But those the White Mountain endurance races have been
• 43:42
  booking up pretty quick, so who knows, I may have to jump on
• 43:47
  that sooner rather than later. But yeah, that's that was the.
• 43:52
  Kilkeny Ridge race 50 mile story.
• 43:55
  So hope you guys enjoyed it. If yeah, I think yeah, I think
• 44:00
  yeah. If you haven't heard any mother
• 44:02
  other race stories that I did the hell banner did the Jigger
• 44:05
  Johnsons. I did a few other ones, so they
• 44:08
  are in the list of episodes if you didn't hear those ones, but
• 44:11
  we'll just jump into the next topic outside of the the race
• 44:14
  stuff. We'll go through some of the
• 44:15
  stuff fairly quickly. But the one big one I do want to
• 44:19
  talk about is marathon sports buys the six O 3 trail races.
• 44:24
  So I mentioned this at the beginning, basically the six O 3
• 44:28
  trail races. Tom Hooper.
• 44:29
  You've been putting these on for a while, so the Sun of Peace
• 44:32
  Scramble, the Ragged Mountain 50K and Stage race, Loon
• 44:36
  Mountain Race, Kim's IT, Cliff Run, Vulcan's Fury Race, and the
• 44:42
  Cranmore Mountain Race. All of these are now owned by
• 44:44
  Marathon Sports. I don't know much about Marathon
• 44:47
  Sports, but it sounds like it's a bigger company.
• 44:50
  They're going to put kind of more.
• 44:51
  Publicity on it, the whole thing not it's not getting
• 44:54
  corporatized kind of thing which we're going to talk about, but
• 44:58
  they just got bought out. I don't know sometimes that that
• 45:00
  just happens when you have a company.
• 45:02
  So I think the first thing I want to talk about is there is
• 45:05
  money on these races now, guys big.
• 45:08
  Money so. In prize purses, we'll go in
• 45:11
  order. Sun and Peace scramble $30,000
• 45:14
  ragged State ragged 50 K $30,000.
• 45:18
  In prize money, the stage race $5000, Loon Mountain race
• 45:22
  $20,000, Kimsic Cliff Run $20,000.
• 45:26
  Yokin Fury and Cranmore both have 7500 on them.
• 45:30
  So I want to add there's a few things to talk about this.
• 45:34
  I think some people in the trail world and on a big on a much
• 45:39
  bigger scale, it's kind of the UT MB Whistler thing or like
• 45:45
  Iron Man taking over all the triathlons.
• 45:47
  You get to a certain stage in the in, in sports where bigger
• 45:51
  companies come in, there's just they're putting more money on
• 45:53
  races, more sponsors, they commercialize it more, they're
• 45:56
  trying to sell you more things, but they broadcast it.
• 45:58
  It gets more pros out and sometimes it gets to a point
• 46:02
  where it gets almost too much. I don't think we're we're there
• 46:05
  at all, but there are some people who dislike even the
• 46:09
  movement in that direction towards kind of commercializing
• 46:13
  more and more of these people, making all corporate whatever.
• 46:17
  And I think I agree with those people.
• 46:21
  Now there's other people that want all eyes, like the
• 46:24
  Northeast doesn't get enough action.
• 46:25
  Like we we need all eyes on us. We need this is awesome racing.
• 46:28
  We need more of this. You know, maybe they're more of
• 46:31
  racing people as opposed to some of the FKT or solo kind of stuff
• 46:35
  list stuff. And so there's a little bit of
• 46:38
  divide. I don't know, like the reaction
• 46:40
  of of people. If some people are upset about
• 46:43
  this, I don't know if that people would be because it
• 46:44
  doesn't. I just don't see any reason to
• 46:48
  except in the grand scheme of things like is this sport going
• 46:51
  to what is this sport? Going to get to.
• 46:52
  But I think that's more like a UT MB level because the UTMB is
• 46:56
  getting so many races and definitely not what we're
• 46:58
  looking at here. But I think it's awesome.
• 47:00
  And maybe I shouldn't start out with that, but sometimes my
• 47:03
  brain just doesn't go in a good order and you guys just have to
• 47:05
  deal with how I say it. So.
• 47:08
  But I think it's great. I think one prize money on these
• 47:12
  races is going to bring more people out, which is awesome.
• 47:16
  Bring more people into the Northeast.
• 47:18
  If you think you're one of the best runners in the Northeast at
• 47:21
  any of these races, go out there and race it and you're going to
• 47:24
  get some money. So it's going to bring pros out,
• 47:27
  it's going to bring elite athletes out.
• 47:28
  It's going to bring more time, better times, more competition.
• 47:32
  So I think that is great. I am in, I want to compete and I
• 47:36
  think I've, I've said this in different episodes, I haven't
• 47:39
  erased a ton, but the goal is I want to complete compete at the
• 47:43
  highest level I can. And so I love seeing this.
• 47:46
  And not only does it bring money on the table, like if you win,
• 47:49
  you get money, it also brings eyes.
• 47:52
  So I'm sure that marathon sports is going to try to start
• 47:56
  obviously kind of selling you some stuff, but getting
• 47:59
  sponsors. And so bringing sponsors for
• 48:01
  these races, more coverage, more social media, more live stream.
• 48:04
  We're talking about the stories. Everyone knows the Northeast
• 48:08
  doesn't get as much visibility as some of the West Coast, the
• 48:12
  big, the bigger other stuff. But this is a step in the
• 48:14
  reduction to getting more spotlight here.
• 48:17
  There's money on it. There's going to be more people,
• 48:19
  more advertising, more, you know, now there's incentive for
• 48:22
  marathon sports to bump up, boost all these races.
• 48:25
  So I think it's awesome. I think, like I said, more
• 48:27
  competition is the best. I was, I was caught talking to
• 48:30
  John Hirsch about this. A lot of sports start out as you
• 48:34
  know, a handful of passionate people in a in a ran, you know,
• 48:39
  in a small unknown sport like that was what triathlon.
• 48:42
  And as it grows, as more people find it and love it and push it,
• 48:47
  you kind of grow and grow and grow and it goes down kind of a
• 48:49
  ladder of more visibility and more people trying to make money
• 48:52
  off races and corporates. And like Ironman or like these
• 48:56
  big corporations, maybe Spartan and OCRUT MB, some of these
• 49:01
  corporations are owned by like equity firms that are they their
• 49:06
  their goal for their shareholder holders is to make money.
• 49:10
  And so it's a little bit of a slippery slope in that
• 49:13
  direction, but I think for any. Sport to grow, that is just the
• 49:17
  the way that it has to go. Because if it just stays small
• 49:21
  and unknown, you're always going to have people be like, we do
• 49:23
  the coolest stuff. We don't get any praise for it.
• 49:26
  Well, if you want the praise, if you want the spotlight, some of
• 49:29
  that stuff comes with it. But also big opportunities for a
• 49:33
  lot of people. Lots of trail runners are making
• 49:35
  good money now. Like the single track did a good
• 49:38
  episode about how much trail runners are getting paid now.
• 49:41
  Sponsorship. There's money coming in the
• 49:43
  sport. There's popularity in the sport.
• 49:46
  And I think the Northeast deserves $100,000 worth of prize
• 49:51
  money every year for these races, guys.
• 49:53
  So it'll be cool. Hopefully there's more coverage.
• 49:56
  I think it'll all go smooth. I don't know if Tom Hooper still
• 49:58
  the race director, I probably think he is, but but that I
• 50:01
  think that's awesome. And I think it's just going to
• 50:04
  boost, boost Northeast trail scene up.
• 50:06
  So keep an eye out for those races.
• 50:08
  We'll definitely be covering these races.
• 50:09
  Are we going to run any of these races?
• 50:11
  Maybe not this year, but we may run, maybe we will, who knows?
• 50:16
  Next up, I want to talk about the Lincoln Woods shut down.
• 50:20
  So if you hadn't heard, Lincoln Woods just had a bunch of trail
• 50:23
  damage and they just shut it down this winter for a little
• 50:27
  while until they're done with the winter trail work.
• 50:30
  And then it's going to get open back up again, I believe.
• 50:32
  And then sometime in June, it's going to be shut through
• 50:35
  November. And Lincoln Woods, it's one of
• 50:38
  the most accessible trails, like Lincoln is one of the most
• 50:42
  accessible areas. If you, if you're coming up in
• 50:44
  93, it's the closest there. There's lots of stuff nearby.
• 50:48
  It's a very popular trail. And obviously the iconic Pemi
• 50:51
  Loop. This is going to displace a lot
• 50:53
  of people in their plans this summer.
• 50:57
  I don't know what they're going to do as far as like trails.
• 50:59
  Around like the Lincolnwood trailhead.
• 51:01
  Are people just going to start going to Kerrigan via, you know,
• 51:04
  I don't know how many people are going to use and what section of
• 51:07
  the Lincolnwood Trail. Like maybe you still be able to
• 51:09
  go up to Flumacio. I haven't looked at it that
• 51:11
  detail, but it's going to be a big shutdown and I think it's
• 51:16
  good. They said if they didn't do the
• 51:17
  trail work, it could have lost the trail forever, which we
• 51:20
  don't want. Personally, I don't want it one
• 51:22
  because the Pemi loop, this is the the Lincolnwood's iconic in
• 51:27
  either you start or you finish the Pemi loop on Lincoln Woods.
• 51:31
  And I think it would be funny if let's just say these repairs
• 51:35
  went wrong and somebody got out there early June.
• 51:39
  I mean, Jay Casito has the the FKT right now, but whoever has
• 51:43
  the FKT if that if the Lincoln Woods got decommissioned for
• 51:46
  whatever reason, they have the Pemi loop forever.
• 51:49
  Because where else, you know, you can do a Pemi loop from a
• 51:51
  different trailhead, but it it would not be the same.
• 51:54
  It would not look the same. It would not be aesthetically it
• 51:56
  would it would not I would not be pleased by it.
• 51:59
  The new route. And and so yeah, whoever has
• 52:03
  that 10 move FKT, which is a huge top 10 NE FKT, you know,
• 52:08
  premier FKT would just have it forever.
• 52:10
  That would kind of be goaded. But hopefully that's not the
• 52:13
  case. It sounds like they're going to
• 52:14
  fix it. But this year, if you have a
• 52:16
  premier and a list, you either got to do it right away in June,
• 52:19
  which there might be still still snow on Garfield Ridge out out
• 52:23
  by the twins to Geo or or you just got to wait till next year.
• 52:27
  Pemi Loop is not super high on my list this year.
• 52:29
  So I don't I'm not super sad about it.
• 52:31
  But that was a Lincoln Ridge Woods recap and then the
• 52:35
  Olympics recap. So I had a few things here.
• 52:39
  I hadn't been watching a ton of it, but I do love watching the
• 52:42
  Olympics like every four years is perfect to watch these winter
• 52:45
  sports pop up like there are, you know, after two weeks of the
• 52:48
  Olympics, she's like, all right, I'm I'm good for a while in
• 52:50
  these sports or some of them. But one of the things was there
• 52:54
  was a video of that guy sub Six Mile on cross country skis
• 52:57
  uphill. This is epic.
• 52:58
  He had all the drool in his mouth out there and they were
• 53:02
  like, wow, cross country skiing is so.
• 53:04
  Cool. I think a lot of people already
• 53:07
  knew this. I already knew this.
• 53:08
  In the winter, one of my favorite things to do is go on
• 53:11
  the bike Planet Fitness and put on YouTube and put just an old
• 53:16
  whatever, cross country skiing, Olympics race or world
• 53:20
  championship race. Cross country skiing is
• 53:22
  electric. These guys are so fit and
• 53:24
  anybody at the end of a race on skis comes across the finish
• 53:28
  line collapses. I mean, in the shorter Sprint
• 53:32
  ones or I don't know, a Sprint like a 5K, they will all come
• 53:36
  and just trash on the floor just heaving.
• 53:40
  And you think would these people get go so hard because it's so
• 53:44
  much upper body and lower body that your entire body is just
• 53:47
  filled with lactic acid. And yeah, it's it is, it is
• 53:52
  lactate. It is, it is crazy to see it.
• 53:55
  So yeah, that sport super cool. And I already knew that.
• 53:57
  So if you if you haven't been down across Kitchi screen, get
• 54:00
  down across kitchi skiing, racing biathlon.
• 54:04
  Also cool. Who came up with the idea of
• 54:06
  we're just going to ski and then then you have to sit down and
• 54:08
  shoot a gun really quick. Also very, very cool sport.
• 54:13
  The best of the falls. They had the best of the falls
• 54:16
  video on the Olympics on Peacock, which I was like, Oh,
• 54:17
  this is kind of savage, but didn't have some of the harder
• 54:20
  falls, which I didn't know how I felt about that.
• 54:23
  Any who but they had some falls. There were some funny like the
• 54:25
  scorpion, like people just fall on their face and then scorpion
• 54:28
  in some of these events, hopefully admit everyone's OK.
• 54:31
  I'm not laughing at people's pain, but it just kind of looks
• 54:33
  funny. What else do I have from the
• 54:36
  Olympics? The ice skating guy.
• 54:38
  This is one of the first things I watched.
• 54:40
  Jocelyn wanted to watch the ice skating, and it was like the guy
• 54:42
  who was supposed to win by a mile and he goes on and he's
• 54:47
  just falling. He he fell on a couple of his
• 54:49
  big spins. I think he.
• 54:51
  I don't know if he's American. Yeah, I think he's American.
• 54:53
  And it was just so sad at the end of the the thing, it ended
• 54:56
  and he just looked so sad. The interview, He it was so sad
• 55:00
  because it's like everyone thought he had it in the bag.
• 55:03
  You work at this for years, for years.
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  And then he kind of just like I blew it, like I don't know what
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  happened like that. I should have won easily.
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  I felt awesome going into this. I blew it.
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  That was sad to watch. I think he's potentially going
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  in actually, they said potentially in 4 minutes or in
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  10 minutes. You guys want to hear this for a
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  little bit, but he's going soon. I think there's another skating
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  thing so maybe can reclaim a gold.
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  But that was the ice skating guy.
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  And then big air jumps. This the ramp down the big air
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  slope. I am a blue guy.
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  When I snowboarded, I like the Blues, even the greens, but I
• 55:41
  like the Blues. The the big air ski jump is
• 55:45
  frightening to watch. These guys go down it and some
• 55:47
  people go down it backwards. I know that's the thing.
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  Like skiers can ski backwards, but it looks crazy when they do
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  it. You're like, Oh my God, this
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  guys go backwards. Wait, he's doing it on purpose.
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  The big the big jumps, some of those people they'll go and you
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  do the twist and you never know. I don't know the grabs of the
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  spins, but it's like 788084 and like we'll you know, we'll be
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  guessing like what you think that was 82 and then just
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  randomly someone will have a similar he landed the good they
• 56:13
  you know, it all looked the same as all the rest, but it's a 45.
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  You're like what? I mean, I guess that trick was
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  super easy, but it all looked the same to me.
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  That's just me being like, I don't know these sports.
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  What Olympic sport could you make the Olympic team on?
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  And you may be thinking they who you talking to me?
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  I'm talking to you at home. Guys.
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  There are two sports that I think everyone listening.
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  If we if we committed to it, maybe not as a team, but if you
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  committed to it, you could make the Olympics and this is so
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  disrespectful. I don't think it's disrespectful
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  like. I think you'd have to put in
• 56:48
  decades, maybe years, a couple good months of work.
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  But this is a question. If you had the Olympic in a
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  sport, what would it be? I think a lot of the summer ones
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  very hard. I don't know if there's any good
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  summer ones, but in the Winter Olympics, 2 come to mind for me.
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  The we'll do the the least obvious this the next obvious.
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  Get me on a bobsled team, get me the third part.
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  Give me 3 elite bobsledders and I just have to be in the middle
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  of them and I have to run with them and they're just going to
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  carry me to victory. I think if you get 3 of the
• 57:22
  strongest bobsledders in the world, and I trained bobsled for
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  10 years, I could go there and win an Olympic medal.
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  Maybe that's it. If I had another life, not in
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  this life, but that's one bobsled.
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  With a good team and then two again, you need a good team.
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  But curling, no offense, maybe this is actually maybe this
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  curler's listening, this is going to get the curling
• 57:45
  community fired up, but I just don't know.
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  It seems just like a very skilled sport.
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  There's no, you know, genetic. You don't need a ton of
• 57:54
  strength, you don't need a ton of speed, agility, and maybe you
• 57:58
  need a little bit of strategy, but I feel like I can learn it.
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  You'd really just honestly, if you if you're the guy, if you're
• 58:04
  not the guy that calls out sweep.
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  I I think that I can learn how to sweep good.
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  Put me on a team with three Olympic curlers and I think that
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  I, you know, let me train for 10 years and I think that I could
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  medal at the Olympics, so I'm going to stick to it is.
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  This a bad take? Is this disrespectful?
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  I don't know, but I'm sticking to it that that was a sport.
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  What Olympic sport do you think you could Olympic in?
• 58:29
  Next up I said no Berkeley finishers, we're going to do a
• 58:33
  black canyons quick reaction. The Black Canyon is 100K.
• 58:39
  That just went down. I mean an epic battle or no, I
• 58:43
  shouldn't say an epic battle, an epic race.
• 58:46
  The the entrance list of this race was absolutely insane.
• 58:51
  I'm not going to like so many. Sometimes I'm like, what races
• 58:54
  should I cover? I'm probably not going to cover
• 58:56
  the big races because I'm not I'm not one and don't follow
• 58:59
  those races as good as a lot of people.
• 59:01
  I don't think I can cover it better.
• 59:04
  I want to focus on the northeast stuff.
• 59:06
  So I'll let like the big go to single track all of those other
• 59:08
  places to hear the you know, if you want to really hear the the
• 59:12
  black hundreds K scoop. But I'll tell you my thoughts on
• 59:15
  it because I have a few thoughts on it.
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  It was a stacked field, which I think it's just so cool.
• 59:20
  These races are getting so competitive.
• 59:23
  I always thought road running was like, I was just who's
• 59:26
  fitter numbers. It's like very numbers wise.
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  It's almost getting to a point like that in 100K where everyone
• 59:32
  know like I shouldn't say it. It's it's.
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  But it is. Minutes.
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  It's like it is just getting so so competitive.
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  But for the 100K. Hans Troyer comes and gets the
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  overall first place new course record, 7 hours and 20 minutes.
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  He breaks the old course record by 4 minutes.
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  Just an absolute. Set of a.
• 59:52
  Performance that guy poopy, I'm saying that right he got hurt or
• 59:58
  something so he dropped out and I think those are two of the
• 1:00:00
  favourites to have a little bit of a a duel there but.
• 1:00:04
  Hans Roy, I mean, the kid, the guy is insane.
• 1:00:07
  Everyone, everyone knows him, Everyone loves him.
• 1:00:09
  And I thought it was interesting.
• 1:00:11
  David Roche had a thing, was like the first time I saw it,
• 1:00:15
  Hans Roy run. I knew he was going to be, you
• 1:00:16
  know, world class. He was different.
• 1:00:19
  I think that's interesting. But you can tell this guy one,
• 1:00:25
  obviously he's a genetic freak. So you need that two runs.
• 1:00:29
  So hard I you know. He's got that Courtney Tara, you
• 1:00:34
  get to the end and you can barely walk.
• 1:00:36
  Like just wants it and wants to push it to the limit.
• 1:00:39
  Obviously loves the sport so, so much and has this like swagger,
• 1:00:44
  this moxie. He wants to be one of the
• 1:00:46
  greats. Saying it and then delivering it
• 1:00:48
  on his JFK, on his Black Canyons 100, like saying I'm going to go
• 1:00:53
  do this and then doing it. That is one of the hardest
• 1:00:56
  things to do in a super competitive sport.
• 1:00:58
  And I think that's what makes people huge.
• 1:01:00
  And so, yeah, I mean, he's young and like the world is this guy's
• 1:01:04
  oysters had the saying like he's elite.
• 1:01:07
  So and these these racers getting faster and faster and
• 1:01:10
  faster every year. And then the women's race, which
• 1:01:12
  I think is probably more competitive, had had just crazy
• 1:01:19
  big names in this race. So the winner, new course
• 1:01:23
  record, two people go sub eight. Never been done before, but the
• 1:01:27
  new course record. Jennifer Litcher, 7 hours, 57
• 1:01:30
  Rick. Minutes she gets a golden ticket
• 1:01:33
  and then second place and flower goes sub 8 which has never been
• 1:01:37
  done before so under the CR and then Tara Dow 1/3 she runs 811
• 1:01:41
  also under the CR. So you have three people under
• 1:01:44
  the course record. Think about how many years
• 1:01:46
  they've been running it. And that was the course record.
• 1:01:49
  No one had ever gone faster. And then you get a year, three
• 1:01:51
  people go under, It's just insane. 4th place, Molly Seidel
• 1:01:56
  comes from the marathon, an Olympic medalist in the
• 1:01:59
  marathon, fast as you can get long distance stuff.
• 1:02:03
  She comes in fourth. And then Abby Hall comes in
• 1:02:06
  fifth. There were some other big names.
• 1:02:08
  Riley Brady was in it. She had the course record.
• 1:02:10
  I think she came in ninth. Didn't have a good day, but just
• 1:02:13
  an absolutely slugfest like, and I think it's so I think it's
• 1:02:19
  actually cool. Tara Dauer and Molly Seidel come
• 1:02:22
  in 3rd and 4th. And I don't know enough about
• 1:02:25
  the other people, so maybe I'm not doing justice to them as
• 1:02:28
  much. But Tara Dauer, somebody who
• 1:02:30
  came from, you know, hiking the AT Candy Mama, just eating
• 1:02:34
  candy, kind of being a hiker. And then Molly Seidel is like
• 1:02:40
  that Olympic marathoner in that sponsored world, that racing pro
• 1:02:44
  elite world for so long. And it feels like 2 opposite
• 1:02:48
  ends of the spectrum, but they're coming together as, I
• 1:02:52
  mean, two of the best ultra runners in the world.
• 1:02:56
  I think I could fairly say that definitely in the United States.
• 1:02:59
  We'll see how long Molly will be in the sport.
• 1:03:01
  I think that's a very impressive finish.
• 1:03:02
  And it's one of her first ultra's longest race.
• 1:03:05
  So I'm sure she's learned a bunch with it.
• 1:03:08
  Her fitness is there. It's just going to be time and
• 1:03:10
  experience. She could be an absolute
• 1:03:12
  slugger. It's just it's very cool.
• 1:03:15
  Everyone's getting pushed so hard.
• 1:03:17
  I think it doesn't matter what your background is.
• 1:03:19
  There are so many ways to be good at elite ultra running, so
• 1:03:23
  many different areas you can succeed in.
• 1:03:26
  And, and if you want something, I would start going after it now
• 1:03:30
  because there is a million people who also want the same
• 1:03:33
  thing, are working really hard. So it's only going to get more
• 1:03:36
  competitive, more exciting in the trail racing scene over the
• 1:03:39
  years. And yeah, so it's cool to see.
• 1:03:42
  So that that was my Black Canyons 100K recap.
• 1:03:47
  Yeah, that's what we got. And then we're going to finish
• 1:03:50
  up real quick. There is a virtual race.
• 1:03:53
  Going on in New England. This is so last week I talked
• 1:03:56
  about the Frozen Folly Burke's race, which was a virtual
• 1:03:59
  treadmill kind of race. This month in February, Burks is
• 1:04:05
  also doing the Satan Sidewalk 66.66 K or the virtual 66.66
• 1:04:11
  hour virtual race. First of all, you mess with 66
• 1:04:15
  stuff, virtual the devil stuff too much.
• 1:04:17
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:04:19
  I think it's kind of funny, but I don't know.
• 1:04:20
  Sometimes you don't know what that bad you do.
• 1:04:23
  But it's another cool virtual race open to anybody.
• 1:04:27
  The 66 K is you do it Satan sidewalks, there's got to be
• 1:04:30
  outside on a sidewalk. You use 66K and the 66 hours of
• 1:04:35
  virtual indoor treadmill, I believe, where once you start
• 1:04:38
  the clock, you just have 66 hours to get as much as you can.
• 1:04:42
  And those will be ongoing. We'll go through those results
• 1:04:44
  at the end of the month next month.
• 1:04:46
  But that was the only New England ultra going on this
• 1:04:50
  week. And and that's what we have for
• 1:04:53
  today. And that's that's pretty much
• 1:04:55
  today's episode. Hopefully last week, if you, if
• 1:04:57
  you heard the John Hirsch interview, hopefully you liked
• 1:05:01
  it. I think it was cool to do.
• 1:05:02
  Next week we may have a little bit of a special episode.
• 1:05:06
  I don't want to, I don't know how it's going to pan out, but
• 1:05:08
  it'll be a little bit of a different special episode.
• 1:05:12
  I which should be. Exciting for me and.
• 1:05:16
  We're going to start doing more interviews and, and get more
• 1:05:18
  people on the on the podcast, which would be great to hear
• 1:05:20
  stories. And like I said, I got more, I
• 1:05:22
  got race efforts coming up this year.
• 1:05:25
  I'm, I'm finally starting to, you know, feel a little better.
• 1:05:28
  I got stuff, stuff moving. We got to keep stuff moving in
• 1:05:30
  the right direction, But I got some things I'm excited about.
• 1:05:33
  It's been getting warmer around here.
• 1:05:34
  Like some of these days in the high 30s even are feeling so
• 1:05:37
  good where the the spring is coming slowly.
• 1:05:41
  It's coming slowly. It's been a brutal winter, one
• 1:05:44
  of the coldest winters in 20 years.
• 1:05:45
  But I'm excited for this year. A ton of stuff going on, all
• 1:05:49
  those races. I think the trail scene, New
• 1:05:51
  England's going to be on off the charts this year.
• 1:05:53
  It's going to be awesome. I'm excited.
• 1:05:56
  And for now? This was this episode, Episode
• 1:05:59
  24. Almost that half a year.
• 1:06:01
  Let's go. 24 episodes. I appreciate you guys watching.
• 1:06:04
  That's all we got this week. Stay tuned for next week's
• 1:06:07
  episode till. Then.
• 1:06:09
  Please. Get into the end.
• 1:06:19
  I meant to do that. I meant to do that.