Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Rushion interviews Renowned R&B singer/songwriter KEM is nineteen at the time, homeless, roaming the cold Detroit streets, spiraling with drug use in his search for relief. He is on the show to discuss his incredible career and his new memoir Share My Life, and Rushion interviews Dr. Corey Hebert, one of the leading voices for Sickle Cell care. He is co-hosting a new show called Living Your Life and interviews incredible people who refuse to let a life-threatening illness hold them back from s

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Rushion interviews Renowned R&B singer/songwriter KEM is nineteen at the time, homeless, roaming the cold Detroit streets, spiraling with drug use in his search for relief. He is on the show to discuss his incredible career and his new memoir Share My Life, and Rushion interviews Dr. Corey Hebert, one of the leading voices for Sickle Cell care. He is co-hosting a new show called Living Your Life and interviews incredible people who refuse to let a life-threatening illness hold them back from s · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My guests on the show today is a renown R
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  Speaker 1: and B singer songwriter Kim. For all of his life,
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  Speaker 1: Kim has always been driven by music and the emotions
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  Speaker 1: involved in bringing his music to life. He is now
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  Speaker 1: the author of the memoir share My Life. In his
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  Speaker 1: book Share My Life, Kim goes back to the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning before his music startom to introduce us to his grandmother,
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  Speaker 1: who worked as a share cropper in the South and
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  Speaker 1: had thirteen children. His mom always had a beer in
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  Speaker 1: a hand, and he had a very intense relationship with
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  Speaker 1: his father. Confused and rejected, Kim eventually used drugs and
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  Speaker 1: alcohol for relief. He has on the show to discuss
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  Speaker 1: this incredible journey, his independent music career, family, and his
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  Speaker 1: book Share My Life. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations
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  Speaker 1: master Class, Master Class, the one and only Kim. How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, my brother? I'm good man. How are you
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  Speaker 1: doing this book? Let's let's let's set the table here
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  Speaker 1: because it's a great book. I read it from cover
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  Speaker 1: to cover and my wife he knows when I was
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  Speaker 1: maybe just leave me alone and reading this is this
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  Speaker 1: is this is this because you have me on the journey.
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  Speaker 1: But when I when I look at who Kim is
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  Speaker 1: one platinum selling album, Kim album to two gold selling albums, Chemistry, Intimane,
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  Speaker 1: three Grammy nomination, five number one hit singles. Why are
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  Speaker 1: you writing this book share my life. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me today, brother, I appreciate it. I wrote this
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  Speaker 1: book because any healing and transformation that I have experienced
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  Speaker 1: in my life, which has been a great deal experience,
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  Speaker 1: because somebody shared their story with me along the way,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody was transparent with me. Someone was vulnerable with me.
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  Speaker 1: Someone was willing to admit their faults to me, and
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  Speaker 1: they're overcoming to me their triumph and the and the
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  Speaker 1: tragedy of their lives. They shared those experiences with me
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  Speaker 1: and it helped me to transform my life, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: hoping that my book does the same for someone else. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you because we know one camp, you
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  Speaker 1: know you do not have a long relationship through music
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  Speaker 1: through Steve Harmer Morning Shore, a lot of events we
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  Speaker 1: did together over the years, and when the inspiration behind
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  Speaker 1: this book, I knew that version and I can remember
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  Speaker 1: when I first met you. I believe it was in
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia at w das they launched Outdoor Festival and I
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  Speaker 1: just saw this cool, little thinning guy come down there
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  Speaker 1: with the jacket on, sit down, no socks on, sat
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  Speaker 1: down that piano and just did his thing, a confident guy.
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  Speaker 1: And when I read the book, Kim, that wasn't who
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  Speaker 1: you were growing up. The confidence wasn't there, the style
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there, the grace wasn't there. Talk about that early
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  Speaker 1: years of Kim, Um. You know. In the book, I
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  Speaker 1: talked about my struggles with depression. I talked about being
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  Speaker 1: homeless for a minute. I talked about my struggles with
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  Speaker 1: alcohol and drug addiction. And people who follow me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just like you. You know, I've shared bit some pieces
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  Speaker 1: of my story throughout the years. This is twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: twenty years being signed to the Motown label to spend
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  Speaker 1: two decades since I had a real job, and those
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  Speaker 1: periods of my life were again you know, they were
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  Speaker 1: they were They were hard years. There was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of darkness, Um, but I learned some things that that
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  Speaker 1: that has helped me to uh to uh to sustain.
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  Speaker 1: On July twenty third, or nineteen ninety, I had my
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  Speaker 1: last drink, my last drug. And there's an adage I
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  Speaker 1: loved that says, when the student is ready to teacher
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  Speaker 1: appears and I, Uh, I came to a place where
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  Speaker 1: I where I stopped trying to consider the idea that
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  Speaker 1: I could solve my own problem with my with with
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  Speaker 1: with my present state of mind, right, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: gave up on I gave up on, you know, my
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  Speaker 1: ideas on how to fix my life. And when I surrendered,
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  Speaker 1: And that's what that was, was a surrender. When I surrendered,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I ended up running into some some some
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  Speaker 1: people and to some organizations that have that have helped
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  Speaker 1: me build upon upon the theres So the foundation of
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  Speaker 1: my career and my life today are built on the
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  Speaker 1: shoulders of people who have come into my life and
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  Speaker 1: shared their stories with me. You know, this is it's
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting book. I'm talking to Kim his book
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  Speaker 1: Sharing My Life and memoir about his life, his struggles
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  Speaker 1: as a youth, as a young man. We all had struggles.
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  Speaker 1: I've had struggles and overcoming the odds, overcoming and the
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  Speaker 1: overcoming yourself sometimes when you think about it, because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that you did, you are you created
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  Speaker 1: the problem now when you look at yourself and you
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  Speaker 1: this book, Kim, you know, I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Know we've talked, but just to hear and you talk
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  Speaker 1: this much, I didn't. I didn't know what they're expecting
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  Speaker 1: this interview because you're a very low key guy. You
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  Speaker 1: talk about shying this in the book and now you're
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  Speaker 1: doing this book tour, this book tour talking about yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a Is this a therapy? And the says
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  Speaker 1: having you talk about yourself, having you be able to
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  Speaker 1: just just just communicate at this level. Um, now, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of much of what has been written, uh in
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  Speaker 1: the book. You know I've already I've already processed you
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  Speaker 1: know our process and uh um, you know it is
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  Speaker 1: it is therapeutic in the sense that and the telling
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  Speaker 1: of and the telling of my story and an effort
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  Speaker 1: to help other people. I'm also helping myself, right, That's
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  Speaker 1: how I'm bearing witness. I'm giving testimony which also which
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  Speaker 1: also feeds me and you and you said something very interesting,
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  Speaker 1: you know that that I want to that I want
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  Speaker 1: to pick up on. You said, a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: is about overcoming overcoming of self, right, and all of
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  Speaker 1: life it is about overcoming self. It's all about overcoming you. Right.
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  Speaker 1: All these all these gurus on Instagram and Facebook and
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  Speaker 1: the creatures, and we're always talking about you can't let
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  Speaker 1: them do this to you. And you know, don't pay
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  Speaker 1: attention to your haters and they this and they that,
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  Speaker 1: look my biggest problem has always been has been me, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm it ain't other people, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And uh and you know you know that that that
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  Speaker 1: success and and uh entrepreneurship and and and success in
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  Speaker 1: life as an internal job and an external job. It's
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  Speaker 1: what it's what we tell ourselves and how we navigate
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  Speaker 1: our inner space that dictates what happens externally, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I share this, you know, in the book and
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  Speaker 1: the hopes that I can. You know that I can
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  Speaker 1: inspire and encourage somebody to uh, you know, to get
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  Speaker 1: to get to get through to the other side of
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  Speaker 1: whatever they may be dealing with in their lives, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you do it inspire. But because of the fact that,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's put this way, Kim, you're doing things that
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  Speaker 1: I never did, and you accomplish some things in the
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  Speaker 1: book that I didn't, I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 1: have overcome because of the fact that there's a support
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  Speaker 1: system in place. There were two people who played very
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  Speaker 1: important roles, and I want you to describe to them
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  Speaker 1: because they the name was Mom in the book and
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  Speaker 1: mother in the book. Can you explain to everybody who
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  Speaker 1: mother was and who Mom was in your book. Well,
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  Speaker 1: mom is mom is uh is you know my mom is.
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  Speaker 1: When I talk about mom, I'm talking about my mother,
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  Speaker 1: the woman who gave birth to me as seventeen years
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  Speaker 1: old and uh in Nashville, Tennessee. You know, she's pregnant
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  Speaker 1: by a high school teacher that was at her school. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an encounter of shame. I was born, you know,
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  Speaker 1: under the auspices or in the auspices of of of shame.
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  Speaker 1: You know, her dad this is sixty seven, right, So
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  Speaker 1: her dad was a preacher, was a pillar in the
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  Speaker 1: Pentecostal church. So I mean it was it was a scandal,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Any right, And on top
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  Speaker 1: of that, they burned in Detroit down ninety seven. He
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  Speaker 1: is sore you coming in, you know, out of wed lock,
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  Speaker 1: detrust on fire, welcome to the world kill and uh.
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  Speaker 1: And the woman I referred to his mother is my
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  Speaker 1: mom is my mom's mother. And that that was that
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  Speaker 1: was everybody in the family called her her mother, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and other family is the vernacular would be big mama.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she was big mama, and our family and
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  Speaker 1: too strong strong wills, um, strong will powerful determined women,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and uh, with all of their with all
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  Speaker 1: the tragedy and all of the triumph of their lives,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And uh, I talk about silence, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and how silence is the silence in our in our
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  Speaker 1: family dynamic was was generational. You know. We didn't talk
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  Speaker 1: about stuff. We didn't have the tools to to communicate.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have coping skills, you especially you know in
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  Speaker 1: the African American community. I'm sure in other communities as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's the there's the uh. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: is grown folks business. You don't ask any questions. You
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  Speaker 1: go over in the corner and you sit down. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the dysfunction that is displayed in the household is not
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  Speaker 1: it's not uh. You don't get debriefed on it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it just happened and you're left to fend for yourself emotionally, spiritually,
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  Speaker 1: and and psychologically. And uh. Um. There was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that growing up. And we've done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good work to get to the other side of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm grateful for that, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: but those are the seeds that that informed my my
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  Speaker 1: my low self esteem, my childhood depression, my my ultimately
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  Speaker 1: my addiction, you know, being in out of jail and hospitalize,
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  Speaker 1: you know, out in the streets, stealing, conniving, you know. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know those were the seeds, you know, and uh
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  Speaker 1: and I talk about that and I'm great and I'm
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  Speaker 1: and I'm cool, you know, I'm I'm not. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't wish to shut the door on my past.
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  Speaker 1: It's a part of who I am, you know. It
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  Speaker 1: makes me who I am today, informs the music, it
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  Speaker 1: informs the art, and you know, and it's and it's
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  Speaker 1: a witness, you know, it's it's a testimony to to
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  Speaker 1: going through something, you know, and taking taking your limits.
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  Speaker 1: I like the lemon life, you know, and making some
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  Speaker 1: delicious lemon there. Well, you know, you know interesting first
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  Speaker 1: of all, and reading the book, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: very honest book. And that is always when you start
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  Speaker 1: writing these memoirs, you start evaluating yourself, and you start
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  Speaker 1: because you're not just talking about yourself, You're talking about
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  Speaker 1: other people who have who have journeyed with you now.
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  Speaker 1: And and because you talk about so many different people,
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  Speaker 1: so many different people who had emotional, very very close
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  Speaker 1: emotional worlds, did you reach back at the individuals that
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  Speaker 1: you talked about in the book, I was that brokered
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  Speaker 1: into in writing your memoir. Um, not all of them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having had a conversation with everyone. Uh that
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  Speaker 1: is that is uh depicted in the book. Um. You
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  Speaker 1: know my mom was interviewed for the book, and early
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  Speaker 1: on in the writing that's my father was interviewed for
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  Speaker 1: the book. You know I did. I went on Rashaan,
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  Speaker 1: I went way around the block to protect, to protect,
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  Speaker 1: I went way around the block, to not denegrate, to
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  Speaker 1: not dishonor to not bring shame on the other characters
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  Speaker 1: of the book. And I noticed that, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've been fortunate to being in this role
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  Speaker 1: of writing a memoir with a superstar talent like you
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  Speaker 1: and and being able to because once it goes out there,
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  Speaker 1: you can't bring it back. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: certain people you try to write it as comfortable as possible,
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  Speaker 1: but they still get offended by it because they feel
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  Speaker 1: you didn't tell it the way they should have been
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  Speaker 1: told or you should have asked me. So it becomes
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  Speaker 1: it becomes something you write honestly, and then when it
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  Speaker 1: gets published, that's another journey that you have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with because the fact that your story has to be told.
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  Speaker 1: It will only be told one way through your through
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  Speaker 1: the lens of Kim. And with that being said, it
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  Speaker 1: had to start somewhere, and it started in the house.
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  Speaker 1: It started with your mom, started with your dad, started
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  Speaker 1: with the mother, which is your grandmother. That okay, was
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  Speaker 1: in portant before you move forward? Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that is I mean, that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: found that that's where it all starts, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: um and I you know so so so backing up,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, yes, you know, I'm seeing it. I'm I
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  Speaker 1: told the truth as I see it, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm and there, and there is no way that I
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  Speaker 1: would have told the truth or I would have There
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  Speaker 1: was no way that I would have characterized that. No
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  Speaker 1: matter what I had said, I would not characterize it.
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  Speaker 1: I would not have characterized it the way that another
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  Speaker 1: kid that someone else would have. You know, everybody, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be different. You know. I can make it
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  Speaker 1: as fussily as nice as possible, and there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: as people would still take issue with it. I I
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  Speaker 1: I expect that and I anticipate that, and that that's
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's just part for the course.
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  Speaker 1: Um um, But I but I did, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: you know, I treated everybody you know respectfully. I told
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  Speaker 1: the truth, but I you know, I didn't. My intent
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  Speaker 1: was not to uh was not the same or or
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  Speaker 1: or or denigrate anyone. And you did and you and
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  Speaker 1: you didn't. I want to be honest with you. You You
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  Speaker 1: didn't because I know the level of honesty that these
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: books have to be and especially with two of the
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  Speaker 1: uh the people you had to discuss were, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the mothers of your children. That was important that that
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  Speaker 1: story was told as accurately and as sensitive as possible.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the part about growing up with because
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: you're you're your father, you know, he is an engineer,
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  Speaker 1: graduated from an HBCU Tennessee State, and your mom eventually
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  Speaker 1: got her degree at Wayne State. And when we come
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  Speaker 1: back from this break, I want to talk about chemistry
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  Speaker 1: that man. When you when you started talking about that man,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: that the book went to a whole different level because
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: it became an entrepreneurial book and it became it became
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: a different That's the part of the book. That your
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: book is incredibly intense, incredibly where written, incredibly eye opening.
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  Speaker 1: But when you got to that entrepreneurs section. That was
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: a section that really told me, while you great today,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by
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  Speaker 1: Rishan McDonald. I'm gonna be honest with you. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody, let don't know when I when I when
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  Speaker 1: I get to my truck and go to my player,
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  Speaker 1: the first four songs, I gotta just let everybody know
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  Speaker 1: or chem songs that he is. And I say that
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  Speaker 1: your life musically, Because music plays are such a powerful
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: role in people's lives, a lot of people don't understand
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the value of music. Kim. When you started putting together chemistry,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you became a perfectionist. That had to be right, it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: had to be and you and you were driving people crazy.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Tell us about that journey as an independent music producers,
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  Speaker 1: seller and artists. Yeah, I'm still driving people crazy. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I uh, I um, you know, and I just I
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: didn't set out, you know, entrepreneur. You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it gets uh, we complicated, you know, we complicated,
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  Speaker 1: and you know there's lots to learn. And you know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I watched Shark Tank and I hear people coming in there. Man,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they're breaking down their business and like breaking down their
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: numbers and you know the cost of acquisition for one
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of their online I mean, they know all of that stuff, Dude,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that. I didn't know any
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. All I knew was I needed. I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: wanted to make I wanted to put a CD out
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: on my own, you know. And I learned. I just
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: kept doing the next What was the next? Right, what's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the most logical thing? The next right logical thing that
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you need to do? Do that right? Like I need
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to do was record this, right, So go and find
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a studio, you know, to record. Well, the first thing
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you need, you need some money, right, So I had,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I kept my I had been uh in
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: credit recovery for a few years and ended up getting
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: an American Express card. Come on, gold card, Now, let's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: go give you credit. It was a gold card. Now
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it was a goal. It was a gold card. And
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: then uh and then attached to the gold card, well,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it wasn't attached to the gold card. But then I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: had the gold card for a couple of years, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and then I ended up getting a business line of credit,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, seventeen thousand dollars from American Express. So they
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: didn't know what I was going to do with the money.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: But what I did with the money was record, was
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: record the Chemistry album, you know, and and by you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: bet on yourself, you bet on yourself. You have to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: if you can. If you're not gonna bet on it,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: then don't bring your proposal to my door. How much
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you right, that's still right? How much money you got
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: it you'll stand is you know, are you willing to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: put everything that you got, you know on the line.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And I was, yeah, I figured, look, this will either
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: work or if it don't work, I'll just have the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: largest credit card bill in America that I will spend
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the next thirty five years you know, paying off. But
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: if it works, you know, then then I'm onto something.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So I was, you know, I was just I just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: kept doing the next right thing, you know, and uh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: recording the record, um, finding the place to produce the record,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you know, pivoting you know, when I wasn't at the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: right studio because this dude didn't really you know, didn't
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: provide me with what I needed. So I had to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: pivot to somebody else, you know, to help record the album. Uh.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: My manager then was Toya Hankins, and you know, she
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: was instrumental in the marketing. And yeah, yeah, we were
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: sending you know, I was sending people. I didn't know
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: any you know, I dude, I didn't have any any
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I did have some books, you know, how to manage
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: your bands and this business of music. You know. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: knew how to copyright. So there was an education that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: was taking the place. But it was taking place in
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: real time. You know. I was learning as I was,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: as I was going, and what's the next right thing?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You know, So somebody's going to buy this CD. They're
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: gonna scan it, so you need to have a UPC code.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Now you can record it the studio and they'll put
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: theirs on there. They'll do that for you. It's like, nah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I want my own. So I went to the UPC
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Code Council or whatever that is, got my own bark
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: code that they'll have today, you know, put it on back.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: The records was selling them, you know, on consignment at
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the mom and pop record stores in Detroit. I had
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to make I had to use, you know, a word
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: program to to make consignment sheets so that I could
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: keep track of, you know, my sales and how much
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: people owed me. And I mean it was a It
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was definitely, it was it was, it was definitely definitely uh,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you know, an entrepreneurial uh uh endeavor, you know, you know, Kim.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: The reason the reason why I ordered people to hear
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that because people want to see the end game. They
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: want to hear the denominations their awards. Well, you were hustler, man,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you was, you was taking your album back in the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: day after what they were albums two different stores and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: could you sell this? So can you sell my CD?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And then you had to humble yourself to be a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: salesman and convince people and talk people and talk yourself up.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people today or they missed that step.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: They think that I can get on social media, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: can get a bunch of followers and I can be
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a star, but then there is some groundwork to that. Correct. Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: there's there's definitely well, you know, I don't know, man,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I see people on online, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and the YouTube stars and Pagram you know, I mean
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: they you know, I motivation, you know, I don't know how.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I would do it today. You know, Uh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you know their motivation is you know, they don't you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I can't. I can't. I can't speak to that,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but I can't speak to um. Is is is the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: discipline and and and building something that lasts forever. But dude,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: if you can stream and you don't have you don't
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: have to do that, and you can stream a billion
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: streams and become a millionaire and like sit at the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: house and never do the house and never do shows.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So the world, I can't do that, right right right?
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: We gotta have Kim. I gotta see Kim. Okay, New
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Year's Eve, vill of Time's Day, Okay, I gotta see him.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, so I uh, you know, but I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I had to. I had to. I had to.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: We had to work, you know, we had to work
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and have to build a foundation that that has lasted
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: for two decades, you know, and you know, and i'm
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: i'm I'm, I'm I'm. I couldn't be happier and more grateful,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know for the grind that it took to sit
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: where I said today, And the grind is always about there.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Known And then as you're going through is music really
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the ultimate? What was that turning point? Because I read
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: was your your ninth grade the music teacher was the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: first person that really set you in front of a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: piano or keyboard and you start playing around with that,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and then you started spending hours more than you spend
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: time in the book. You start spending time on a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: at these keys. What when did when did that become
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: like you know, your master or like this is what
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I love because that's when we all learned it. Like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: whether it's dribbling in a basketball or standing on stage
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: as a comedian or a singer. When did you realize
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that this is a gift, this is my gift. I mean,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I knew that I love I knew that I knew
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that I loved it before before our family left Nashville.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I love the piano. When I was a toddler,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't either there was a check attached
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to it or or it was a you know, a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: possible vocation until much later, you know, in in my
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: life and you know, and actually and there's a you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and there's a paradox there too, because I didn't get
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a deal when you know, when I got a deal
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: when I stopped when I when I you know, I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: realized that that um, I didn't have to you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'd always been chasing a record deal since I was
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a teenager. You know, I came to a place in
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: my thirties I was like, you know what, maybe music
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is not my thing. I thought that I I became
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: open to the idea I could be successful doing something else,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't have to be music, and I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: let go of it. I didn't stop making music, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I let go up the idea that this was the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: passion of it, or because of the doubt or the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the rejection is that's why you let GORDI idea. It
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was none of that. This is this was elevated thinking. Right.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that it was the rejection. It was like
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I was just open to the you know, it's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: spiritual axiom. Right. I had this, I gotta have it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I gotta have it. I gotta have it, I gotta
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: have it, I gotta have it. And it's like, no,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't have to have it. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: can be successful doing something else. Let me go find
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: out what that is. And it didn't mean that I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was going to quit making music. It just meant that,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you know, it didn't I didn't, you know, like, dude,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: there's more to me than just than just doing this,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: let me go find out what those things are. Then
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I and I went and looked at for those things
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and I failed miserably. However, it was it was the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: letting go, right, It was the letting go and being
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: willing and all. I think. Business is one thing that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: i've i've i've has really been crucial to me. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the slast you know, probably eighteen month period, is that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: businesses failed. Man, and people fail because they don't pivot.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: They don't pivot soon enough, you know, they wait and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they hold on, you know. And I say this for
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the people who, you know, for the for for for
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the aspiring singer whose mother tell them that they sound
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: good singing in the living room, and spend your whole
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: life until you're sixty five years old trying to sing,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you know, when actually you make some pretty good cupcakes
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and that's what you should be doing. Right. Oh, that's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: funny in your book, now you talk about trying to
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: be a comedian. Now you didn't talk about trying to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: be That was a very good joke there, my brother,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Look,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I you know, so I feel you know, I've always
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: known what it was, you know. But I'm always open
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to the idea that I don't have all the answers, right,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I'm always open to the idea that I don't have
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: all man just and even even today, dude, it's like, yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I make records. I'm sitting down here, you know, I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: just wrote this book. We got a live out and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: it just came out. I'm out on the road with
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: with Letacy and uh and music Soul Child, and still
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: ask myself every day Lord and say hey, yo, then
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: point point me in the right direction. I want nothing
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that don't belong to me, you know, which is anti entrepreneur.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You know that that whole self will you know? And
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: police sofa up by your bootstraps. There's a place for that,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know. But it comes with limitation. So I just
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I just I just remain I just remained open. But
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there was a shot that you potentially selling Mary Kay though,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: aw right, I wasn't. I wasn't selling Mary Kay for
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the car I was selling Mary Kay. I was like, right,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I love it right right, Yeah. You know the emotional
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: side of this, you know, when you talk about the relationship,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you talk about you know, your your skin tone being
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: bullied and and but the relationships ties really to the music.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It ties to your therapist telling you that probably your
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: music is therapeutic to you. When you started getting these
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: answers along the way, and you father too, incredibly amazing
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: children out of wedlock, can you start dealing with that,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the responsibility of fatherhood and your career and trying to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: maintain a responsibility and stand close to your children. When
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: did you start lining everything up, Kim that it made
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: sense to you that I'm doing it right, I have
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that it's I don't know that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm always in the process of lining it up.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it's always I'm always in the process of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: process of lining it lining my life up and peeling
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: back the layers of the onion to my life. You know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's not a place where you arrive
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because I look back, you know, where I thought I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: had it lined up pretty good, and like you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I'm looking back, I'm like, dude, you are crazy right
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: back then, right like you know, with every you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not we are constantly evolving, constantly constantly learning. I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: not the guy, I'm not the same guy was six
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: months ago. You know what I'm saying, It's like constantly
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, reevaluating, constantly, um, you know, uh as Stephen
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Covey would say, you know, constantly sharpening and saw, you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: trying to get It's not it's not a question of
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of arriving. It's a question of continuing to to to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: make the best effort to do, to keep doing the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: next right thing, you know, and building upon that, you know.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm you know, I'm in a pretty in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a pretty good place, you know, right now. But I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: also know that there's that there's definitely more to learn
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and more to be discovered. Well, the amazing thing that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I discovered with you and reading this book, because you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you only know a person one side of a person,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: just like a person doesn't know other side of me
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: until I tell them and reveal them like you were
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like you were revealing in this book. But you know
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that you made a conscious effort. You know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: my mom graduated from college Wayne State, your father graduated
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee State, and then you made the collecious decision
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to go back to school because you dropped out. Why
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was that important? I went? I went back to get
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: my high school diploma. Yeah, yeah, I didn't go to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I was not you know, I was not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: college material. And that's and that's okay. We're getting ingrained,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, we ingrained in our children at you know, college, college, college,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and everybody ain't gonna thrive in college, you know what
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um, but I went back to get
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: my high school diploma because it was always a point
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of it was always a point of shame, you know
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: for me. And I was trying. I was actually I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: actually was trying to take the GEED. I was trying
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to take the GED to get my GED. But the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: test for the GEED was too hard. It was easier
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, dude, I may as well go.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, I may as well go back to school.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you till I gotta stop.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: You man. You know, this is a pretty intense book, man.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You know, Kim is a pretty intense shaman. And we've
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: been laughing, man, we've been um joking around. That's the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: amazing side of this story and an amazing side of you. Man.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: You're a good brother, man. You are you are a winner.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: You are you are a comedian and that's the side
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: of y'all. I'm so happy I'm getting to hear and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: see for the first time of my life because as
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: as as a person who watched you perform, I'm in awe.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And that's a shield because you know, when you like
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you saying you Michael Jackson came out and prance and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you know all those songs you talk about that really
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: turn you in direction of who you are today. That's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: who you are to meet when I watch you on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: stage as an artist because of the fact that how
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you affect me from a stand from a personal standpoint,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it's all good. It's all good because you motive. Your
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: your music is motivational. Your music is emotional, music is uplifting,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: all those things that that as an artist you want
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it to be. But to hear you, you know, at
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: this layer of view I've never seen before. It's really
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: refreshing in your thoughts. Is this is this Kim? Thank you? Yeah?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: This is Kim, This is Kim. Yeah? Yeah, thank you man,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. You know, thank you, thank you,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We ain't done yet. You don't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: keep it going, but my brother, I want to. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: want you to keep it going. And I want to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming to my show, just taking the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: time to just share my life, which is your life,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: because because you're part of so many people's lives. It's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the memoir written by David Ritz. The name of the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: book is kim My Brother. Thank you for coming on
• 31:45
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• 31:49
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• 31:54
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• 32:10
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• 32:12
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• 32:16
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• 32:19
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• 32:23
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• 32:44
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  Speaker 1: Moneymaking Conversations Masterclass, Doctor Corey Abear. How are you doing, sir,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing great, and you know, it's kind of funny.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: We've we've our paths across many times in the many
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  Speaker 1: years that you have been out on the on the road.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad. Well, you know when you when you go
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: through New Orleans, especially as much as I've been New
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Orleans and plus South Africa, that it means that we're
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: doing something right, because I know it. Far as your brand,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you're nationally known in the media Today's show Good Morning America.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Your face is very familiar when people turned on the two,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: which gives credibility about your brand when you talk, because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you are a brand doctor, A very correct well, you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a word that people use
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: very loosely now they want to get their brand. But
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for twenty five years. So I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: hope that I put enough skin in the game and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: boots on the ground that I could say officially that
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I do have a brand. But how did it all start?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: You know, because you know you don't you know, I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: talking about the media portion of it all because you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: went to college just like, we all went to college
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: when you get that degree, and then you went to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: medical and then you start serving the community in the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: degree format that you chose in college. But how did
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the media transition happened in your career? You know it was.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It's a funny thing. You never know how stuff's gonna happen.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So basically, I finished, finished medical school, finished residency. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: during residency in New Orleans, we were the murder capital
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: of the world in nineteen ninety seven in New Orleans,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and we are the murder capital of the world once again,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: which makes me very sad. But we worked and I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: would be in the emergency room and seeing all these people,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: black people, a poor people just coming to the ear
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night for like stuff that
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: like for ring worm or for like an ear infection
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: or something. I'm like, man, why why are you here
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. And they're like, well,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: we didn't know where else to go. So when somebody
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that looks like me gives me some inkling that I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: can help them by just giving them information, I feel
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I needed to do something about it. So I was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I was married at the time, and I went to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: my wife and said look, I want to start a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: TV show called Urban Pediatrics and then move it to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Urban Medicine. I want to do it, and I want
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to tell people and empower people on their health because
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: people out here dying and you know, and in communcing
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: their lives little things. I said, so um. I went
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to the public Access TV station in the New Orleans
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and they and they asked me. I told him what
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and they said, yeah, you can
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: do that. That'd be great for the low, low price
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: of three hundred dollars a month. Now, let me tell
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you something that doesn't sound like a lot now, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven and you're making twenty five thousand
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: dollars a year, that was a lot. Mom and my
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: wife said, you're not about to do that. I said, look,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: this is a sacrifice. We're gonna have to make it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: So I started, and I started at two o'clock in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the morning at channel one hundred and ninety five, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: two years later I was at six o'clock on Saturday
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: after Saturday evening afternoon on Channel eight, which was their
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: number one spot. So I moved up. People wanted it
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and it was a great thing. Then right before Hurricane Katrina,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: NBC came calling and said, we saw this show. Man,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it's really good. What we want you to put We
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: want to put you on the network. I said, that's awesome,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and then Kurricane Katrina washed everything away. Now. The reason
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: why I'm gonna get to the point real quick he
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: is because this is like what you're talking about with
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the show. I had a defining moment, and people will
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: have defining moments in their lives and you gotta step
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: up for them. And God will let you know when
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: it is. After Hurricane Katrina, I lost my office was fine,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my house was fine, everything was fine. But I was
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the only doctor practiced medicine for about three months and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it was these eighteen hour, twenty hour days. Was horrible. Man.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But one night, about two weeks after the hurricane, NBC
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: called me said, can you come and talk about health
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: after Hurricane Katrina? Because people are spread throughout the United States? Man,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: we need somebody to come on. Can you do it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I was laying in my bed, it was ten o'clock
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: at night. I was tired as hell, and I was like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you know what, this may be a defining moment for me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I gotta get up and I gotta do this, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I went to the TV station that night and I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: was on TV for one thousand, two hundred and twenty
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: seven consecutive nights after that, and that's when Doctor Oz came,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: That's when Oprah came calling. That's when all the networks
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: came calling, because I was bringing entertainment but at the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: same time bringing that information in a way that nobody
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: was giving it at that time. So you know, that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: how it all happened. And then ever since then. You know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: once you become that voice where people trust you know you,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you move forward, and that's what happened. Now you just
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: putting in an eighteen hour days and still doing TV simultaneously.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, yes sir, because after after that, after
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that hurricane, man, looking, I was lucky I wasn't working
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. You know what I'm saying
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to me, you know, And I bring that up, Doctor e. Bary,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: because we always talk about dreams, We always talk about commitment,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: We always talk about effort because everybody wants the pipe,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: but do atybody want to make the pie? And that's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about right here, is that you could
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: have laid in bed and say, hey man, I'm tired,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: but somebody told you to get up, and it told you,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and that's called effort. That's tall wanting to fulfill your
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: dream through application. But then when they told brought you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: back the next day, at what point did you in
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: your mind you go should I stop? Should I keep
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: doing this? Stock day barrel? Well when did you did
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you ever start questioning the process because they kept asking
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you day after day to continue this whole run. Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Now it's funny you would mention the word process because
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I was laying in my bed just the other night
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and I had another defining money. I'm telling you this
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and it's been twenty some years later. This is what happened.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why we can't do better
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: as a people. I'm trying to figure out why we
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: can't get more black people in the medical school. And
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I realized something. You know, when we were coming up, right,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: we had to process a lot of stuff, and we
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: actually had to go through a process. So when you
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: will want to go to the movies when you were
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: growing up, you had to pick the movie, pick the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: movie theater, pick the time, pick the way you're gonna
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: get the money, pick the friends you want to go with,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: pick how you gonna figure out how to get there,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, and then you had to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: make sure you got it right because there were no
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: phones to contact people, so if your friends were out
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: there and you were later on, somebody else was like
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it was just a mass. So you had to figure
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: out the process. And that's how your brain developed. Remember,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: our brains aren't really concrete until we're twenty five years old,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: so everything is your brain is still developing up until
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that time. If you remember, that's why you couldn't rent
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a car before you were twenty five years old. That's
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: where that came from anyway. But what I realized is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that these young people, when they want to see a movie,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: what do they do? They press a button. When they
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: want some food, what do they do? Press a button?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: When they want to go somewhere, They press a button.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Everything comes to them. Everything is on the demand. So
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that means that their brains as they were being as
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: their brains are being developed, then they don't understand the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: same process that we had to go through to make
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: things happen. But the problem is that the process to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: be successful is old school so the process to be
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: successful hasn't gravitated so that they can understand how to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: actually go through the process. So there's a disconnect and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a divorce between the young brain and how to process
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to get through things and the old way things go
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to actually be successful. And until we tell the young
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: people it ain't gonna change so you need to adapt
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: to the process. Or we come from the top and
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: say the process is gonna change, We're gonna have a
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: big disconnect and these old white establishments aren't about to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: change the process so young black people can get it,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So we have to educate. So my thing was, I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: understood the process by which I was going to become successful,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and it meant showing up and going somewhere to make
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that happen, not something coming to me to make that happen.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And that's what I did in that bed that night,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to get up and go somewhere and keep going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: meet it, not putting it, letting it to meet me
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: come awesome. I'm talking to doctor Corey A. Bear, chief
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: medical Officer of Dealer University and an assistant professor at
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: LSU Health Services Center and Tulane University Medical Center in
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louis handa our physician for over twenty five years.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: He's on the front line, but more importantly, he's one
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: of the leading voices for sickle cell care. Doctor Barrel,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you have a show coming out called Living Your Life's
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: co hosted. You co hosted with care Spates. Why is
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: this show important and why are you hosting it or
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: co hosted in it. The reason why it is because,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: first of all, cares crazy and I love kids, so
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: we have a ball. But really primarily what we found
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: is that sickle cell disease in America is a disease
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: that people don't talk about because it affects mostly brown people.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: That's be honest, right. The sickle cell was the first
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: disease ever genetically mapped in the entire world. But we've
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: only had three or four drugs since nineteen forty to
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: come out to try to help. And so what I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: noticed that everybody in America has to be tested at
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: birth for sickle cell disease trade and I started seeing
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that all the young women that were coming to me
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and they had their baby and cile cell disease maybe pain,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: having all type of problems. These new war babes and
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: women didn't have any idea that they had sickle cell trade,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: even though the test was done on the women at birth,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: so spiled a basile lady had a baby when she's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: twenty years old that t was done. She didn't have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: any idea of the results. Because when I was in
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: medical school where it was taught that trade actually was
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a silent and didn't cause any problems for you. It
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just was if you, you know, had sickle cell trade,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: unity with some ciles, trade your baby to have sickle
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: cell disease. People weren't taught that. But what we find
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: is that, you know, the number one cause of death
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and new black military recruits was sickle cell traite up
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: until about five years ago, and seventeen young black men
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: have dropped dead in NCAA sports from sickle cell trade.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And if you go on a high altitude environment like
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: an airplane that's unpressurized in the cabinet or a helicopter,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: or go hiking or skiing, or work out too hard
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and have bone pain without getting enough hydration, you can
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: die from sickle cell trait. And there four million people
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: in America for sickle cell trade, black and white, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: so this is a health crisis. If you don't believe me,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: go to the CDC website. As clear as day in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: block capital letters, you can die from sickle cell trade.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: But the problem is people in America don't even know
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if they have sickle cell trade because they were taught
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't a big deal. But so that's why
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: this is an emergency. And people are not getting care
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: when they have sickle cell disease. When they go to
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the er, they're not getting care. Care go to the ear.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: He had to wait eight hours in excruciating pain, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: people thinking he's a drug seeker because nobody knows how
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to treat the one hundred thousand people that have the disease,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that alone the four million people that have the trade.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So we got to get out there. We got to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: explain this to people. We got to educate them, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: we got to entertain them because that's my brand entertainment.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I make you laugh, I make you cry, but I
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: give you information and then with that information you can
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want with it. But my job is
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to give people information worldwide. Now that's what that's what
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: living your life is about. But you said something in
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the middle of your conversation with me about drugger people
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: who feel drug secrets that people come in there, they're
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: in pain, they're letting the nurse know, the doctor knows
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that they're in pain, but they're being labeled as people
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: who are just there to get drugs. Explain that, Well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: how did that stought and why is that such a problem. Okay,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So basically what happens is when you have sickle cell disease,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of pain. You have a lot
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of issues when it comes to lung health, kidney health,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: spleen health, your vision, everything can be affected by sickle
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: cell disease. And when you're like a two year old
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: girl and you have some pain with a little pink
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: dress on going to the er, you know, asking for
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: some pain medicine, everybody thinks that's cute, right, that's cute, right,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: even though little kids in pain. But when you are
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a twenty five year old six foot tall, one and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: eighty pound person to talk about you're in pain and
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you need some morphine, they're like, wait a minute, this
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: ain't cute, dude. Well, this disease is supposed to be cure.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So people think that sickle cell disease is cured because theoretically,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: there is a cure that for the lolo price of
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: five million dollars in about five people have gotten it
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in the world since the beginning of time, So that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: not a viable option right now. So people have to
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: live with this disease and when they have pain, they
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: have excruciating pain ten out of ten. But most doctors
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: have never taken care of a sickle cell patient. They
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: don't even know what that looks like. So when you
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: go into an er and you are an adult asking
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: for morphine and they've never taken care of a patient
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like this, they think you're a drug secret They label
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you a drug seeker, and then you can't get the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: medicine that you need. It's it's a very horrible, horrible process.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: And then you know you're treated like a second class citizen.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a horrible thing. So what we have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to do as a people is we have to get
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: our minds right and get some legislation so that we
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: can identify people with sickle cell trade. That's the first thing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I know that. That's I know that for a fact
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: because I saw it happen. And then it feels like
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: now today that's sickle cell all it's still on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: back burner of America and the medical minds. Is that correct?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It is, And I think it's because, um, well, you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: things fall out of favor because you know, when when
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it's not important to a particular group of people that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: has the biggest voice, then it's not really addressed. So
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, sickle cell disease is in about one hundred
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: thousand people. About one hundred thousand people have that. Now
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: when you look at a country with uh, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: two hundred three hundred million people in it, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: putting this on my back so that we can have
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  Speaker 1: that telethon against we can bring some more of the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: awareness to this disease because it's disabling, and I'm gonna
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: give you one step further. I think it's criminal, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: that's right. I called it criminal. The fact that ninety
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: seven percent of young black women that have a baby
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: with sickle cell disease, meaning that baby is going to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be sick, maybe probably die early, being pain, lots of life,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: always in the hospital, ninety seven percent of these women
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that have this baby had no idea that they had
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: sickle cell trade. But the test is already done on
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: those women at birth. So what I'm saying is for
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: us not to know that, and we're spending billions of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: dollars on trying to find a cure, can we just
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on empowering the community
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to know if you have trade. So maybe if you
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: know you know you have trade, and you meet a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: man or if you're a woman, I mean a man,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you meet a woman and you want to have a
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: baby with them, you should know if the possibility of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: your child could have sickle cell disease. You might want
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it. You might not want
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it, But the point is
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: you need to know because that that baby is going
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: to be a huge emotional change in your life. That
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: baby's going to be a huge financial change in your life.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: That baby is going to have a lot of pain
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: and distress and it's life. So it's a big decision
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to make. But you need to know the information. So
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I think that what we're trying to do here is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to try to get a national registry. So
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: all of you out there listening, if you were, if
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: you're in your forties, you're that test was done at birth,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: If you're in the mid forties, to every all the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: way down to just born today, that test was done
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: on you, and you can go find the results. And
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: if you can't find a result, you can go straight
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to your doctor right now and get that test redrawn, okay,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and see if you have the trade. And I think
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it's very very important for you and your children to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: know so they can make some informed decisions. Wow. Well,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: the interesting thing about this whole conversation of hand with
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: doctor he Ar is that you know, I have the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: sickle cell trade. My wife she had the sickle cell trade.
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  Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct. We had we had to make
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  Speaker 1: a conscious decision about, you know, bringing a young child
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  Speaker 1: into this world which you know our child does not
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  Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease, and so but that doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when my wife was pregnant, you know she
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  Speaker 1: was always fearful of that whole situation and that I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't aware of to afterwards. You know, that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stress that can be put on a couple, especially
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  Speaker 1: the woman in the couple, in the relationship, because all
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  Speaker 1: you wanted a healthy child. That's do you want that miracle?
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  Speaker 1: You want the five fingers and on one hand, five toes,
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  Speaker 1: on another you know ten ten. You know that's what
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  Speaker 1: you want when you when you bring a child in
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  Speaker 1: the world physically, and then you want when they slap
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  Speaker 1: them on the behind. You wanted the scream. You want
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  Speaker 1: to be alert. And when you have sickle cell a
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  Speaker 1: disease that, like you said, when it comes into your life,
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  Speaker 1: it's costly, it's time consuming. Your child may spend many
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  Speaker 1: hours and many days and maybe even many weeks into
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  Speaker 1: the hospital under care, and it can never live a life.
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  Speaker 1: But we on this show live in your Life. The
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  Speaker 1: whole approach on that show is about showing people who
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  Speaker 1: have the trait, people who have sickle cell disease living
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  Speaker 1: successful lives. Correct, and it's correct. I mean, you know
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  Speaker 1: there's some people that if you embrace your disease, if
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  Speaker 1: you do what you're supposed to do, you should be
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  Speaker 1: able to live your life like like anybody else. But
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  Speaker 1: what the problem is we of the one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: people that have this disease, we have lost meaning loss
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  Speaker 1: to follow up, meaning they're just out there. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know where they are. About seventy thousand of these people,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know where they are because when you get older,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people don't if you are ashamed to have
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  Speaker 1: this disease because it caused the problem in your work.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning if I like say Kier right, Kier who is
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  Speaker 1: the close to the show, said Carey as an actor, right,
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  Speaker 1: So if he wants to be if he wants to
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  Speaker 1: be in a movie and he has to tell them
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  Speaker 1: that he has sickle cell, he may not get the
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  Speaker 1: part because because they're gonna say, if he gets a
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  Speaker 1: sickle cell crisis in the middle of filming, then they
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  Speaker 1: got to shut it down. They can't he can't be
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  Speaker 1: in the movie. So that means they're losing one hundred
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  Speaker 1: fifty two hundred thous dollars a day, they'd rather do
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  Speaker 1: somebody else, So that's discrimination. So and then they're out
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  Speaker 1: there suffering in silence. So we what we hope is
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  Speaker 1: that we with this show, we bring people out because
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  Speaker 1: there's treatments. There's treatments now newer treatments that can make
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  Speaker 1: your life a lot better. But we got no we
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  Speaker 1: had to know where you are, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So that that But here's the thing. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: just America right now. Sure, AE hundred thousand, but that
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  Speaker 1: number swells when you get outside of the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the global impact of how sickle cell affects
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  Speaker 1: different countries and how different countries are dealing with that
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  Speaker 1: as well. Yes, absolutely there are more people with sickle
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  Speaker 1: cell disease in the world than in the United States
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  Speaker 1: by far, because we remember this was this was something
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  Speaker 1: that was done. Um you know, this was an evolution
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  Speaker 1: from the African continent. This was an evolution so that
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  Speaker 1: we can remember that people are dying of sickle cell
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  Speaker 1: or dying of malaria, and so if you developed sickle
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  Speaker 1: cell trade, then you were able to survive malaria. That's
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  Speaker 1: where sickle cell trade camper was an evolution of survival Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So now what you gotta remember is the subsherent part
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  Speaker 1: of Africa that's that has that issue. But if you
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  Speaker 1: start going towards you know, Saudi Arabia, and you start
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  Speaker 1: going towards Iraq and Turkey, all these people migrated from
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  Speaker 1: the same place, so they have more sickle cell disease
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  Speaker 1: and trade over there. But the issue is they don't
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  Speaker 1: have universal screening. So they're just dying. They're just living
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  Speaker 1: a horrible life because they just don't even know that
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  Speaker 1: they have it. So that's why this is a global issue.
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  Speaker 1: And so I presented this concept at the south By
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  Speaker 1: Southwest conference. That's where a bunch of nineteen year old
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  Speaker 1: billionaires with hoodies go and talk about how they can
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  Speaker 1: save the world, right, And these dudes, when I explain
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  Speaker 1: to them, well happen, they said, wait a minute, we
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  Speaker 1: have a worldwide problem, a worldwide problem, and we're not
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  Speaker 1: doing something about it because of the lack of that
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  Speaker 1: aggregation of the data that already exists. Think about that.
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  Speaker 1: That's criminal. It wouldn't be doing that in any other disease.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And that's why I wanted to bring that
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  Speaker 1: up because a lot of people look at the sickle
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  Speaker 1: cell as just a black illness, a black disease, a
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  Speaker 1: black something that tied to our culture. But it's really
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  Speaker 1: a global theme where when when you get out of
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  Speaker 1: a hundred thousand you start going worldwide, we get into
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  Speaker 1: the millions, not one hundred thousand, not to ten, not
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  Speaker 1: two or four people, We go into the millions of
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  Speaker 1: people who are impacted are affected by sickle cell traite,
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  Speaker 1: which in turn leads to sickle cell disease. If the
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  Speaker 1: person you are happing to have a childhood and you'll
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  Speaker 1: both have the trait, then you can eventually lead that
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  Speaker 1: to one out of four chances to your child can
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  Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease. As a person who has sickle
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  Speaker 1: cell traite? What things should I be looking out for
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm living a healthy life or
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  Speaker 1: a long life and not doing it things? Silly, doctor Bear.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing you need to do is you need
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that you get enough sleep and get
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  Speaker 1: enough water. Okay, those are the things that you just
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  Speaker 1: need to do just to be help there. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if you have sickle cell trade or not. You
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  Speaker 1: just need to get enough sleep, get enough water, and
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: decrease the amount of stress in your life. That's across
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  Speaker 1: the board, okay, but with somebody with sickle cell trade
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  Speaker 1: or disease, you need to make sure you eat well.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You gotta get this processed food out of your life.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta eat more plants, you gotta eat more vegetables,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta eat more things that are that are good
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: for you and decrease some of this processed food. That's
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: another thing. Also, you gotta listen to your body. Okay,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: if you have sickle cell traits. The reason why people
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  Speaker 1: sickle cell trade dies not because they just all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden have this attack and fall out. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what happens. They just don't know that they have sickle
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  Speaker 1: cell trades. Or when they're working out and they start
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: feeling faint, they think that that's what's supposed to happen
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: because that's just normal, and then they just keep pushing
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  Speaker 1: and pushing and pushing, and that's when they have the problem. Right. So,
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  Speaker 1: if you got to listen to your body, If you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: if you're going to a high altitude environment, if you
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  Speaker 1: know you're gonna be working out a lot and you
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: haven't worked out before and you start having these issues,
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  Speaker 1: just stop. Just stop, hydrate and rest and then you'll
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  Speaker 1: be absolutely fine. I also tell people with sickle cell
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  Speaker 1: trait they probably should be taking some folate in their
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  Speaker 1: multi vitamin. They need to make sure that they have
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: enough vitamins in the body because your body to make
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: red blood cells needs vitamins and it needs folate folic acid,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and that is in every multi vitamin. But I would
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: say take a little bit more because it can't hurt you, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And I want you to do that. And also if
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  Speaker 1: you're out there in your sickle cell disease, I really
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: want you to think about there's a lot of medicines
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  Speaker 1: out there. There's and I need you to kind of
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: go and look at some of them because they're out there,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: and we need you to get your get your mind
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  Speaker 1: right and then come out of the out of the hiding.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: We need to fix this situation. Well, you know that
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: it's all about the information, and well one thing on
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: this show, I try to bring information because of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this is show I always talking about entrepreneurship
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  Speaker 1: and how to succeed. But if your health isn't right,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: can't fulfill your dreams, and more important, you cannot mislead
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  Speaker 1: to yourself to believe that it's gonna be all good
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: because you're not ill, but certain things have to happen
• 57:08
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• 57:10
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