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Considering John Bruni: From Mysterious Dedications to Sci-Fi Adventures · Cinema Yūgen

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G'day, that's right, it's that time again, time for Cinema Yugenites. I don't know.
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Music.
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G'day Yugenites, welcome back this episode my very good friend and a very talented
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author who deserves your attention check. All the links for his stuff in the description.
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John Brunney, an author I met 10 years ago at Strange House Books when I was
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peddling, smart peddling aliens.
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And John, he's the author, well, at that time he was the author of Tales of
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Questionable Taste, but also Strip, Poor Bastards and Rich Fucks,
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The Dong of Frankenstein and Jesus Came Back, Blood,
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Tales of Unspeakable Taste, and some kindle-only titles like John Holmes Vampire
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Slater, The Dawn of Frankenstein, and other pornos you can't jerk it to.
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It changes a man and mystery sexual theater 69,000.
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He was very kind recently to put a small dedication in his new release,
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something to consider, the collected slate and junior stories.
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Is these stories, of course, some of these stories came from the straight to video saga.
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I was very flattered by the dedication. I was very happy to speak to John for
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the first time and bust the myth because in the dedication, he says,
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I have never met Kent Hill.
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Well, here he goes, throws back and sees the man behind the curtain. He's my buddy, buddy.
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Welcome him to Cinema You Can Now, John Brunny.
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Thank you for having me.
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Well, like I was just saying, yeah,
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we've known and collaborated together now for a long time and yeah like your
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beautiful dedication said recently you've not met kent hill so you you've just
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busted the myth right i gotta go back and do a correction now,
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no no it's good it leave it like that it gives me some mystique nice it makes me sound mysterious and
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like the Howard Hughes of indie publishing or something like that. Nice. Nice.
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Not that I'm, not that I'm as talented or, or yeah, but or rich for that.
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Yeah. If only I wouldn't mind living in a hotel in Vegas permanently,
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like up in the penthouse and just having people go out and get me things and
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stuff like that. Oh yeah.
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Yeah. My dad lived in Vegas, and I used to visit him all the time.
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Vegas is something else.
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It's really different. It looks pretty flesh.
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It is. It is. It really is Sin City.
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There was a big change where everything is all about families and bringing your
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kids and everything like that.
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But really, the soul of Vegas is still all about drinking, gambling,
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whoring, all that stuff.
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Right yeah yeah,
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Yeah, no, I'd definitely give it a look. I love the fact that they have a bloke
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I know got married out there at a drive-in wedding chapel, a drive-thru.
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Yeah, they have. A drive-thru wedding chapel. Yeah.
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I love the fact that you all have so much drive-thru stuff there in the States.
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You've got drive-thru pharmacies, drive-thru ATMs, drive-thru wedding chapels.
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Yeah, just about everything. And we don't have any of that. I mean,
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the best we've got is like a drive-through bottle shop where you stop to get
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your booze on the way home.
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That's about the extent of our creativity. Yeah.
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But, no, we don't have the convenience of all that other good stuff.
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I suppose once we get to a larger population, they might start to consider some of that sort of thing.
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Yeah, yeah. But, you know, considering we're only a tenth of the US's population,
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So it's obviously not something that they have on their plate just yet.
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But something that you do have on your plate, mate, at the moment is Slate.
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Your Slate story, something to consider the new book coming out.
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The Slate story is, of course, originally part of the straight-to-video saga,
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universe, whatever, multiverse, whatever you want to call it these days, whatever vernacular.
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John, tell our audience, our listeners, the story of Slate.
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Well, Slate's a sci-fi PI, and he's mostly inspired by Jack Death of Trancer's fame.
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But there's something I love about science fiction and the noir world,
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and that's definitely Slate.
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He's a veteran of many wars.
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In fact, he got blasted by something called a bridal blast, which is supposed
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to kill you, but he somehow survived. and he deals with the pain by constantly
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drinking Hisqua, which is essentially his galaxy's version of whiskey.
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And he goes after thrill killers. He goes after gangsters. He's also gone after
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a cat-headed gunslinger once.
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And yes, the cat gunslinger did have nine lives and he took many of them.
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But then it kind of pivoted and was suddenly about late son Junior.
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And that was more inspired by Trinity, like Sons of Trinity,
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like with uh spencer and and terrence hill uh when they when they stopped doing
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it their their son their son started doing that and i thought well why don't
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i just do that for slave and so that was born yes it's um it was a great series uh straight to video i.
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It was something that I had pondered long before I actually did something about it.
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But it was always going to be a matter of finding a group of people who shared
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a common love of these straight-to-video kinds of films.
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And then, of course, having enough people that had enough good ideas to fill a book.
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So, I mean, it all worked out well in the end. So, yeah.
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Yeah, those straight-to-video books were fun. All four of them.
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Yeah. Well, the first two sort of happened very quickly.
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I was, you know, very grateful for the response. The third one was probably the biggest one.
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That took like a year just on its own because we had, not only do we have all
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of you wonderful authors, but we also had a lot of filmmakers adding a kind
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of commentary track, if you will, throughout the...
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I love that. It was great. Yeah, it was the first sort of commentary track for
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a book with a lot of the guys who rose to prominence during the straight-to-video era.
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So it was a huge book, a huge series, and so many great stories came out of it.
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It's good to see that everybody sort of went and has also published them separately.
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You know because yeah i didn't notice that trend yeah well i mean it might as
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well i mean because i mean.
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You can't count i mean the the first two books are of course were part of jea so i mean i didn't have,
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when they when they sort of dissolved the you
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know there was there was quite a lot of authors that i wasn't in
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contact with so it was hard to to resurrect any
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of the ones that i didn't sort of have have a
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solid grip of myself so yeah yeah things
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come and go unfortunately that we we live in
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a we live in a perpetual state of impermanence unfortunately
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it's true that is true i keep
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thinking about those books that are out of print now and i i keep thinking
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wouldn't it be great to bring them back but then i also think about
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the horror that must be the right nightmare that would
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be yeah yeah it's uh it look look it was pretty daunting considering considering
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it was something that i had never never done prior to doing it it was completely
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like a cat in the bag flash in the pan whatever you want to say but it's it was definitely a,
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a passion project because oh you know i mean i you talk to people and you hear
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their taste in films but unless I mean it's it's like anything unless you throw
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out the idea if you unless you throw out something,
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you know, that inspires people, like a tidbit that's kind of like MSG in Chinese food.
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You know, unless you put it to them, you're not really sure where people stand.
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I mean, a lot of these films, I mean, trances as well.
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I mean, there's a lot of people who think they're just crap.
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I mean, there's a lot of, unfortunately,
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a lot of the movies I like, john people consider shitty um but i don't know
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what that says about me but i i don't think they're shitty i i love them when
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i was talking to tim thomas and oddly enough i told him that i had a real affection
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for trances four and five the the one where he goes back to medieval times,
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those are good those are really good i love that i really yeah i i you know
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i mean i know and i I know it's verbatim in a franchise, you know,
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when you go back in time or to the old test or whatever.
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Or even out of space. You're stretching. You're almost finished.
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But I personally loved how it was a two-parter, the four and five.
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And even Tim Thomason gave me a weird sort of look.
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You like those ones?
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And I said, yeah, yeah, no, I do. i've
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got a soft spot for the only story he could tell me from
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those those two films was the fact the the female lead used to go running in
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in prague where they were filming she used to go out jogging in the morning
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and she'd wear like workout clothes you know and a couple of times she was told
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not to do that because where they were they were situated near a military base.
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And all of the soldiers would see her running around in skimpy exercise wear
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and she was told, you know, you shouldn't do that because, you know,
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they got no problems dragging you off and, you know, doing that.
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So, yeah, so it wasn't exactly a completely comfortable situation.
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So, you know, if you're in a foreign country, you know, when in Rome you've
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got to abide by their laws and rules and all that sort of thing.
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So it makes it difficult.
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Yeah that is true but uh no trances the trances films have always been um.
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Real really close to my heart i remember
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the i didn't i didn't see trances
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of course never came to the the cinema here and if it did it was very few cinemas
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but yeah i certainly remember it coming out on video because the the video cover
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was absolutely incredible it had yes do you remember the remember like those
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rainbow holographic images from back in the day and it would have like oh,
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You tilt it side by side and it had a 3D effect, but it was also like a hologram.
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It had that on the cover. So right away I was like, damn, that's really cool.
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Must have had a different one than we did then. We had a pretty good one too.
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It had Tim Thomerson on the cover, but it was illustrated, not an actual photo
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of him, wearing a helmet that he never wears in the movie.
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Yes. Yes. they're done yes yeah when
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they yeah when they yeah that that when they eventually brought out the whole
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set on i can't remember who brought it out but when they brought out the whole
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set here on on dbd initially that had that it had that art on the box where
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he's got the helmet and yeah,
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an helmet and a gun that he never uses and never wears so yeah but there's no
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stopping these folk It was like when I was talking to people early on about
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Future Cop and they go, what are you talking about?
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And, of course, it was Future Cop released here.
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It was only later, sort of in the 90s, they released it, Future Cop and a.k.a.
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Trances underneath it to clarify that bit.
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But since having been in the movie business a little bit now myself,
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I was a little precious about changing titles.
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But you come to learn it's not a malicious part of the game it's just how they sell it,
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Yeah, it's just a thing. If it's easy to sell in a certain territory with a
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different title, they're going to change the title regardless of how much you
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love it. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Even in book writing, it happens sometimes. I think, well, actually,
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in one case, one of my stories worked out pretty well.
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It was originally called, what was it? some vague, silly, garbage title,
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like not once upon a time, but something along those similar lines.
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And then they just retitled it 52 years later. And it actually worked out pretty
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well that way. That one worked, but there's one that's really odd for me.
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Tales of Questionable Taste had a story in there called The Skyscraper of Forbidden Delight.
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But the publishers changed it to Suspicious Delight. I'm not sure why,
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but that one always weirded me out.
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Hmm no it was like it was
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oddly enough the the book that that started started
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all the trouble with me uh the the smart peddlers
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yeah is that still in print right no
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no she's oh she's finished she's finished her
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run she's now relegated to uh to uh
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rib the rare book pile so anyone who has one has
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a collector's item which is kind of nice that's i
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have one which is yeah well there you go it's
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a rare book now it's uh it's a
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rare book now but it's that that oddly enough when
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i was when i was initially trying to get published for the
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longest time it was called badlands meredith and the
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alien smart peddlers from the future and of course the the multiple publishers
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said you know can we change that because you know it was like when when they
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made raiders it was going to be called indiana jones and the raiders of the
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lost ark but they said you know who's indiana jones Right? Right.
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So until you've established the character, there's no point putting his name...
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Yeah, that's true. So that was, yeah, I mean, the weirdest thing about that,
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I mean, you talk about being inspired to go off and write something.
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Basically, the inspiration behind that one, now the story can be told,
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I was pitching it to a razorhead,
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and it was the one synopsis that I sent that I had nothing for, right?
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I had samples of everything else, and naturally they picked the one that I have nothing for.
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So in my traditional fashion, I made up some bullshit and said,
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can I send it Monday? And I spent the weekend, Friday, Saturday,
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Sunday, hammering it out. So yeah. Wow.
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Ultimately, they didn't publish it.
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But now I had a book to try and push on someone else.
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So luckily Strange House sort of came along and so I had somewhere for it to
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go because I remember when I was trying to get into Bizarro,
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they accused me of not being Bizarro enough initially. Really?
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They said this isn't weird enough.
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Huh. That's a pretty weird book.
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I mean, I was swinging for the fences. I thought, well, it's not conventional, surely.
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I mean, I've never gone to a Barnes & Noble and picked a book off the shelf like this one.
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I suppose, you know, people have definitions, different definitions of weird.
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I guess so. Or bizarre. Yeah.
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You know, but it was, yeah, look.
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It's, it's a lot of fun, you know, writing, writing, writing stuff that doesn't,
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writing stuff that doesn't easily fit into any category is, is a lot of fun
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because you're not bound by any real laws of genre.
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Make up your own, you know, as, as Don Noble once said of me,
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I think it was, you know, he's like a kid who smashes together Play-Doh and
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the mess is, the mess is better looking than, than what it started out as or something.
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Don's great I don't know what that says about me But,
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Yeah So yeah you've got Slate coming out But you've got some other stuff That's coming out too,
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Yeah at the beginning of the year My new book came out Eye Cutter It's a science
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fiction novel But it's not really a science fiction novel Like the others It's
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got an infusion of bizarro and horror as well And I've decided that it's going to be a series,
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where I can just dump all the weird stuff in my head.
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I can just yank it out and just dump it into this series because there's a lot
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of weird stuff that happens, but also it's kind of grounded too.
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Because the idea is it's set thousands of years in the future.
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We've colonized the planets and everything.
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We've gone beyond. We figured out intergalactic travel and all that stuff.
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But the seat of humanity is still Earth, and it's really difficult to legislate,
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from Earth when you're all the way out in the pinwheel galaxy, for example.
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And as a result, a lot of bad behavior makes a comeback with humanity.
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In particular, slavery.
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Slavery is far and wide in the galaxy. And I have this team of former slaves
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that they go around buying slaves up and freeing them and then giving them the
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option to work for them so that they can hunt down the worst scum in the galaxy. Wow.
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That's where we meet our new hero, Ketchum, who is a veteran of a war between
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Pluto and the Andromeda galaxy.
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He's a former slave himself. He's a former gladiator. And he's been rescued
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by this guy named Corbin Marsters.
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Corbin's the guy who started this whole thing. And he's just going out there, freeing these slaves.
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And then they all start working for him to hunt everyone down. but
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Ketchum's his new guy and their new
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target is this real horrible scumbag named
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Lane Gates who what he does is he kidnaps
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psychics he calls them oracles and cuts their eyes out so they can be more powerful
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because everyone knows you cut an oracle's eyes out they're all of a sudden
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more powerful their their gift works better so he uses them then to go around
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the galaxy blackmailing people that bad things are going to happen to you.
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Well, I know this thing's going to happen to you, but if you give me this much
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money, I'll tell you exactly what it is and when it will happen.
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And so he's very, very rich, but he's a really, he's the most wanted man in
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all the galaxies, and they're going to go after this guy now.
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But one of the things about Lane Gates and all the villains for this series,
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I think, is because I think, I think about that,
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all the villains are going to be understandable i
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i want people to go well you know what this guy's got
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a point he's a horrible human being but he's got a point here
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and that's that's what i want to do with this series to show sometimes it's
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a matter of just uh perspective but also my other thing about this series is
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i wanted to show i want to show that no matter how big the universe is it's
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actually kind of a small place.
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And that's my overarching theme with it. I've only gotten one full book out so far.
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I'm planning a whole bunch of them. And then I'm going to do Kindle-only novellas between them.
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So I have one of those out too called It Changes a Man about Lane Gate's pilot before they meet.
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And this series shows how this guy was an ordinary guy, but he was thrown into jail for reasons.
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You don't know what those reasons really are.
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He might have done it. He might not have. Who knows? But it turns him into a really bad person.
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And that's kind of the catalyst for the whole series, kind of building up through that.
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So it's a sci-fi epic, but it's got a lot of old themes. It's got gladiator
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themes. It's got some horror themes.
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It's got some Western themes. There's going to be some fantasy at some point.
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It's just a mess of everything that's in my head.
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Wow. Yeah, it's all part of your complete breakfast. Check the links in the
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description, ladies and gentlemen listening.
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Yeah, something to consider. And what's that one called again? Eye cutter, did you say?
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Eye cutter. Eye cutter. And yeah, this is the tip of the iceberg,
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nine-tenths of it, below the waterline because John's got, as you just heard, a whole...
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A whole lot planned. It's a whole other universe.
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Are you planning just Kindle and paperback? Are you getting audiobooks as well, John?
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I've only gotten one audiobook so far. Poor Bastards and Rich Fucks.
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I got John Wayne Camminale to do the narration for that, and he did a really good job.
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It was a pretty pricey job, so I don't know if I'm going to do that for every book,
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but he did a really good job, and everyone seems to like that so it might be
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on the table i'm not sure but it might be,
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yes it was it was it was our dear departed friend kevin that started me on,
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he did too audio and look i have i have to give him look i could i could talk
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about him forever but i have to give him a ton of credit because honestly i have to say that.
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Going from making tens and tens of dollars with
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with with the books now mind
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you for our listening audience this was
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before all the celebrities got involved with audible so we were doing we were
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we were we were actually making a killing when audible first started now it's
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a little bit yeah now it's different when you got celebrities reading their
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own memoirs and you can hire celebrities to read your books and stuff like that.
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I was like, yeah, we watched the sales going down, down, down,
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as the celebrities just came in.
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There's a good premise for you. I thought about it once, like a planet that
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these aliens land on, and it used to be Earth, but it's been completely taken over by celebrities.
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And the celebrities have turned hostile, but not like in that movie Doomsday.
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Have you seen that movie Doomsday?
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Doomsday. Neil Marshall?
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I don't think I have seen that one. It's the one where Scotland is hit with
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killer virus. So they build a wall between it and the lower half of England, right?
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Oh, I think I did see that. Yeah, yeah. and then they've got to send a team
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over the wall because the guy who's got the cure lives over the wall.
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And, of course, in the chaos, because they've been shut off from the rest of
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the country for a long time, the people on the other side have,
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of course, gone feral, gone cannibal.
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You know, the idea that I had didn't have the celebrities gone cannibal,
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but they'd definitely gone strange.
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Nice. I like it. There's a dark edge to their celebrity now.
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They're using their influence for nefarious deeds.
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On the surface, it's all sunshine, roses, public service announcements.
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Below the surface, there could be other things. Yeah. Yeah. Murky.
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I think. Heretic kind of stuff. Did you see that? Heretic with Hugh Grant in it? Yeah.
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Isn't he having a renaissance right now? Hugh Grant. He is.
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I've never really cared for him, but now that he's back, I think he's doing
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really interesting things.
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He's very different from what you see him, what he used to do.
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He's gone from the semi-dopey, good-looking guy, a rom-com guy, to this, yeah,
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umpala with slightly sinister.
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Yeah i've got to say that's initially the one reason
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i went out to see cloud atlas when it was first
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coming out because someone told me that hugh grant plays a cannibal in it so
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i was i haven't seen that one it was like it was like rogue one i was like well
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even if the rest of the film's crappy i wanted to see donnie yen in a star wars
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movie you know yeah yeah so So that was going to be worth the price of admission.
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Unfortunately, the Hugh Grant cannibal thing in –,
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in Cloud Atlas was not as overly impressive as Donnie Yen in the Star Wars movie.
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But look, there's a lot to enjoy. A lot of people shit on Cloud Atlas.
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I got a little bit of a soft spot for it. There's parts anyway.
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There's parts of that film that I think if that had been the only part of the
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film, because some of the stories are slightly better than some of the other parts.
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But I, it's like, it's like a box of assorted chocolates. Sometimes you get
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what you want. And sometimes.
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Sometimes I do have the book.
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I haven't gotten to it yet, but that's because I'm 10 years behind my reading list. Oh shit. Oh yeah.
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Don't talk to me, man. It was like, I was saying to, it was like just,
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I was saying to Kevin who used to send me a lot of stuff. I said,
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man, I got a stack of books from, uh, from friends and gifts and all that.
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And, you know, in between writing stuff and reading stuff and editing stuff,
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I try to slip in, but I've still got a stack,
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mile long that I'm slowly working through in between, you know, everything else.
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So it's difficult. As someone once said to me, I long for those halcyon days
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is when I could sit and just read books and have nothing better to do.
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Yeah. But those days have up and vanished like a fart in the wind, so to speak. But, um,
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But who knows, maybe someone once said to me that someone who has a lot of books
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that hasn't got to them yet is planning for the future.
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So I said, that sounds good. That means that my future, I'm going to have so
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much time because I have all these books that I've been accumulating and I'm
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going to have the time eventually. It's supposed to be some sort of precursor
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that I will eventually have time.
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I've heard of this time i i'm not sure what it is
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though yeah yeah it's like i'm i'm waiting
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for it it's like waiting for the rainy day that never comes waiting
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for my lotto numbers to finally strike yeah
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yeah i fear i will i feel i you know the constant fear is we'll be dust in the
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wind before that happens that's my concern exactly but at least we had a fun
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time getting there Ladies and gentlemen, check the links in the description.
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John Bronnie is my mate. He's a great author. There is so much stuff of his to enjoy.
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The new one, which is beautifully dedicated to yours truly,
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something to consider, is a collection of the Slate Stories,
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formerly published in the Straight to Video series, along with all of other John's cool stuff,
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thousands of questionable taste and um there's something
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for everyone is in your in your bibliography is there not john there there is
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there's something for everybody and including a lot of my stuff is kind of weird
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gross and offensive but there's even something inoffensive in there in fact
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i was recently in st louis for author con four and uh at my reading.
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At any one of my readings i always give the audience a choice i either have
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the most fucked up thing they're ever going to hear or i have this one inoffensive
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story uh written specifically not to offend anybody that's beautiful nobody ever chooses that story,
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except in st louis because in my in my audience i had these two ladies there
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who they said that they can't take any kind of gore or anything like that it
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can't have any blood and guts or anything so i thought you know what this is
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a story this is the story for them i'm going to read that And then in the middle of it,
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I get to this part where it's called Snipe Hunt. It's in my collection,
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Tales of Unspeakable Taste.
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But I'm reading to my audience, and I get to a point where I describe this snipe
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pecking away at a squirrel's guts. And I just realized, oh, shit.
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And I looked up and I said, ah, sorry. And even my inoffensive story had something
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to offend, but they were all right with it, all told. But that was kind of funny.
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Look, at least you give them the option. You don't just start reading and watch
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the people walk out in droves.
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Although. Bro stuff. Oh, well, I've never had anything thrown at me,
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but I have driven people out at a reading before.
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I was at michael allen rose's s&m salon and i read a scene from dong of frankenstein
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that was so terrible that people actually hid out in the kitchen because they
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couldn't take it anymore and i'm like you know if i don't that at the time i'd
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i probably would have stopped but,
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but uh they eventually they were all right with it i apologize and everything's
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good but like that was that was an experience like i'd never driven anyone from
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a room before and even michael's pretty impressed with he's like that that was pretty interesting,
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so yeah no i i like how i like how that they do that over there in the states
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have readings and stuff i've never had the chance to uh to stand before an audience
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and marinate them i guess with my literary junk food. LAUGHTER.
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So, yeah, it must be kind of cool. I can see people throwing stuff at me.
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Beer cans, yeah, all sorts of stuff.
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I would have to have a couple of those ginger ales that you have there before going on.
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I'd have to be like Bukowski and have a bottle of wine sitting by me, you know.
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I used to drink for every one of my readings that's fantastic yeah no i i would
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i would i would have to do that i would have to get on stage like bachowski
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and have like the fridge right you know here's for hank i'm gonna i'm gonna
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quit unless i get another bottle of wine.
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Right sitting by me yeah yeah it was good check all the links in the description
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ladies and gentlemen, John Brunny, great bloke, great author.
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He's got something for everyone, something, some stuff that may offend,
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some stuff that may not offend, and some stuff that may make the small hairs
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on the back of your neck curl all on their own.
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John, thank you for being on Cinema Yugen, mate. Thank you very much for having me.
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Yes, John, John the Piper's son, throw some copper in his hat and say, well done.
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He's an author, as I said at the opening, deserves your attention,
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check all the links in the description to all John's work of questionable taste, of the finest taste.
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John Bronnie again, check the links in the description and as always my little
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Eugenites, thank you for listening to us on Spotify or wherever you choose to
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listen to your favourite podcasts,
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I'm Kent Hill and until next time, you've been listening to Cinema,
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Eww.
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Music.