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HORRIFIC STORY from the HUNTER BIDEN Laptop Whistleblower John Paul Mac Isaac of what has happened to him! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There's a name that you may not remember, but it's
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Speaker 1: a name that I think should be remembered by everyone,
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Speaker 1: and I believe that this person is an actual hero.
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Speaker 1: John Paul mack Isaac. Remember that name, John Paul mac Isaac.
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Speaker 1: Who is John Paul mac Isaac. He's the hero. He's
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Speaker 1: the man who was the legal owner of Hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: laptop when Hunter Biden didn't pick it up from his shop.
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Speaker 1: We now know for a fact that he followed the rules.
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Speaker 1: We know that he did everything right, and the media
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Speaker 1: and the left and the FBI and the IRFS now
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Speaker 1: still did everything they could to destroy him in order
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Speaker 1: to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat named Joe Biden,
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Speaker 1: a good man who represents the most vulnerable minority in
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Speaker 1: the world. The individual did everything he was supposed to do,
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Speaker 1: everything they told him to do, and for that they
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Speaker 1: took away everything he had and refused to protect him
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Speaker 1: from the most obscene injustices that you will ever hear about. Now.
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Speaker 1: Before a drunken man entered his life with three broken laptops,
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Speaker 1: John Paul Maciaac owned a home, owned a small business,
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Speaker 1: and had carved out a life for himself in Wilmington, Delaware.
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Speaker 1: John Paul Maciaac wasn't looking for trouble by the way,
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Speaker 1: or to become famous or do anything other than quietly
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Speaker 1: live his life. Then walked in a drunk, entitled and
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Speaker 1: corrupt Vice President's son, Hunter Biden. And even after he
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Speaker 1: knew what he had, John Paul mac Isaac didn't try
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Speaker 1: to financially or politically profit for the potential windfall handed
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Speaker 1: to him and then legally surrendered to him by Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 1: He could have called and gotten an attorney and probably
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Speaker 1: made himself six figures, maybe even seven by handing the
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Speaker 1: laptop back over to the Biden crime family. He didn't
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Speaker 1: do that. He still did the right thing. He never
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Speaker 1: stopped doing the right thing. He could have sold the
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Speaker 1: contents of that laptop to or sold his story about
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Speaker 1: the contents of the laptop for probably easy six to
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Speaker 1: seven figures, maybe even more. He could have shopped it
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Speaker 1: around on the market. He could have shopped it around
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Speaker 1: to different political people and easily gotten seven figures for
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Speaker 1: the content. He didn't do it, and for that, for
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Speaker 1: being nothing more than less than an innocent bystander who
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Speaker 1: followed the rules. The media, the irs, the FBI, the
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Speaker 1: Biden at regime has destroyed everything that John Paul mac
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Speaker 1: Isaac created. He lost literally his whole life. Now the
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Speaker 1: media is not going to tell you this part of
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Speaker 1: the story because they don't want you to know just
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Speaker 1: how bad it's become for this man. His business, by
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Speaker 1: the way gone, his trade gone, his privacy gone. Everything
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Speaker 1: that he worked for they took away from him. He
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Speaker 1: now might even lose his home. Who are they? I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about the government, the FBI that's sat purposely on
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Speaker 1: explosive evidence that would have set John Paul mac Isaac
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Speaker 1: free and did so to protect a wealthy and powerful
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Speaker 1: democrat named Joe Biden. Protected the man instead of the
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Speaker 1: innocent man who let them know about the contents of
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Speaker 1: the laptop. They is also the former fifty deep state
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Speaker 1: swamp intelligence officials who, knowing that the laptop was real
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Speaker 1: and the content was real, smeared this man, John Paul
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Speaker 1: mac Isaac. They claimed that he was a Russian spy.
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Speaker 1: And why did they do that? They said it was
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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. These fifty former top intelligence officials said they
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Speaker 1: did it to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat by
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Speaker 1: the name of Joe Biden. They is the all powerful
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Speaker 1: tech giants who falsely accused this man whose name you
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Speaker 1: should remember as a hero, John Paul Maciaac, of traitorous
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Speaker 1: criminal behavior. They even accused him of being a hacker.
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Speaker 1: Never been a hacker in his life. Why did they
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Speaker 1: do it? Why did they say that he was a Russian?
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Speaker 1: Why did they say he was working for Putin? Why
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Speaker 1: did they say that he was a hacker? Why did
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Speaker 1: they accuse him of criminal behavior? You're catching on to
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Speaker 1: the theme here to protect a wealthy and powerful democrat
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Speaker 1: named Joe Biden. And finally, who else is involved in
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Speaker 1: the bigger grand plot that I referred to as they
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Speaker 1: the corrupt corporate media, the media who knew all of
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Speaker 1: what I just said to you was a lie. The
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Speaker 1: media knew the Hunter Biden laptop was legitimate almost instantly,
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Speaker 1: and still for seventeen months, they spread lies and more
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Speaker 1: lies and more lies, and protected the lies that they
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Speaker 1: were telling to destroy a hero by the name of
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Speaker 1: John Paul mack Isaac. They spread these lies to destroy
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Speaker 1: his life. The New York Times now admits Hunter's laptop
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Speaker 1: is reel seventeen months later. You have to ask the
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Speaker 1: question why now? Why now? Is the media admitting that
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Speaker 1: this story is real. I will tell you why, because
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Speaker 1: they now know that something has to happen, and they're
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Speaker 1: playing defense. The New York Times admitting it it's real now.
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Speaker 1: When the media first dealt with the story, when the
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Speaker 1: news first broke, when there was that last presidential debate,
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Speaker 1: Remember we didn't have as many because of COVID and
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Speaker 1: all that crap. This is what they said back in
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Speaker 1: There are fifty former national intelligence folks who said that
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Speaker 1: what this she's accusing me of is a Russian plan?
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Speaker 1: Do you mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia
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Speaker 1: Russia hoax? A vast majority of the intelligence people have
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Speaker 1: come out and said there's no basis at all. The
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Speaker 1: allegations against Joe and Hunter Biden have no basis. In fact,
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Speaker 1: who do you think is behind this? Well, the Russians
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Speaker 1: would be my number one guests. Obviously Russia would be
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Speaker 1: the chief suspect. This information Rudy Giuliani is peddling very
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Speaker 1: well could be connected to some sort of Russian government
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Speaker 1: disinformation campaign. CBS News has learned the FBI is now
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Speaker 1: looking into whether the information found on the device maybe
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Speaker 1: part of a Russian disinformation campaign. There are fears that
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Speaker 1: what Giuliani is now pushing here in the United States
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Speaker 1: could actually be part of Russia's latest and very massive
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Speaker 1: disinformation campaign. Another wonderful propaganda coup for Vladimir Putin seeing
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Speaker 1: President Nited States holding up a newspaper promoting Kremlin propagandas
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Speaker 1: that was the media. Seventeen months later, the media is
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Speaker 1: now saying, Okay, we lied to you. You can't trust
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Speaker 1: the media anymore, certainly not the corporate media on anything.
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Speaker 1: You can't trust that if they actually get the truth,
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Speaker 1: that the media will even tell you the truth. The
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Speaker 1: media will publish lies about the truth to protect their
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Speaker 1: people from the truth. There are all kinds of movies
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Speaker 1: about this, by the way, about how the goal is
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Speaker 1: to find a heroic journalist who will tell the truth
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Speaker 1: and save you, right the Three Days of the Condor,
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Speaker 1: or the Pelican Brief, the China Syndrome. But this media
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Speaker 1: keeps lying, and now they're having to admit that one
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Speaker 1: of their lies. I'm just kidding. It was real. It
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Speaker 1: was all real, but lied to you long enough to
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Speaker 1: kit the guy we wanted into the White House. I
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Speaker 1: want to take a step back, and I want to
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Speaker 1: really look at what the media's role used to be
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Speaker 1: in this country. The Pentagon Papers, for example, water Gate.
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Speaker 1: There used to be a fundamental idea in this country then.
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Speaker 1: The idea was that if the government was trying to
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Speaker 1: squash you, if big business we're trying to crush you
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Speaker 1: or destroy you were hurting people, if they were lying
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Speaker 1: to you about the levels of chemical and water that
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Speaker 1: was around your home, and you were getting cancer, and
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Speaker 1: the government was in on it, local authorities were in
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Speaker 1: on it, or the whatever it may be, that there
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Speaker 1: was a place you as an individual could go to
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Speaker 1: tell your story. If you were the lonely, simple whistleblower,
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Speaker 1: there was a place for you to go to tell
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Speaker 1: your story. And that place that safe place that you
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Speaker 1: would turn whether you were a government employee high level,
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Speaker 1: low level, whether you were a local employee high level
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Speaker 1: or low level, whether you were just a basic little
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Speaker 1: person in a office, if you saw something right, if
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Speaker 1: you saw it, there was a place you could go.
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Speaker 1: And that place that you could go was the media.
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Speaker 1: Right the place you could go is that lonely whistle blower.
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Speaker 1: There was a safe place to run. It was to
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Speaker 1: the press. That's where you're supposed to go no longer.
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Speaker 1: You go to them with the wrong story, and they'll
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Speaker 1: actually run to the people you're whistle blowing on and
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Speaker 1: tell them what you're up to. They will run to
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Speaker 1: the people that you're whistle blowing on to destroy your life,
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Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened to this hero who got
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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop because Hunter Biden came in hammered
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Speaker 1: and never came back to pick them up. You used
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Speaker 1: to have a safe place to run No more. Why
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Speaker 1: because the media now is all in on it. John
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Speaker 1: Paul mack Isaac sat down last week with bright Bart
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Speaker 1: News and they wanted to give him a chance to
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Speaker 1: share his story and tell it other than editing for
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Speaker 1: clarity and length, they wanted the people to hear what
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Speaker 1: he had to say unfiltered. Bright Bart News set down
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Speaker 1: to do what the media is supposed to do, to
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Speaker 1: give a safe place for a whistleblower to go. Now,
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Speaker 1: while the media has been trying to destroy him in
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Speaker 1: the deep state, in the IRS, the FBI, while the
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Speaker 1: media was attacking him and attacking this story and saying
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Speaker 1: it's just information, there's a hack or these Russian spy
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Speaker 1: these working directly for Vladimir Putin. These are the things
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Speaker 1: they said while they destroyed his entire life. The media
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Speaker 1: didn't defend him, No, no no, the media sold him out.
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Speaker 1: Bright Bartnews said this in their interview. First, I'll thank
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Speaker 1: you for doing this, mister mac isaac. Where I want
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Speaker 1: to start, especially because the corporate meeting and social media
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Speaker 1: have done so much to cover up your story. To
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Speaker 1: cover your story cover it up is to start at
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Speaker 1: the beginning, when the laptop was first brought into your store.
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Speaker 1: Until all this happened, you did have a storefront, correct,
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Speaker 1: John Paul mac isaac said, Yes, twenty ten, I opened
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Speaker 1: the Mac shop and the Trolley Square area of Wilmington,
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Speaker 1: a little twenty foot retail space where customers could park
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Speaker 1: right in front of the shop instead of having to
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Speaker 1: walk through a shopping mall. I'd run out pick up
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Speaker 1: the item to be repaired for them, which was a
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Speaker 1: lot more convenient than taking it to an Apple store.
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Speaker 1: Bright Bart News said, And you've since lost that store
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Speaker 1: due to the fallout over the Hunter Biden laptop. John
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Speaker 1: Paul mc isaac, yes, Bright Bart News said, Now were
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Speaker 1: you working that day when the laptop came in, referring
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Speaker 1: obviously to Hunter Biden. It was April twelfth, twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: about ten minutes before closing. I remember I was climbing
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Speaker 1: the walls to get out of the shop because it
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Speaker 1: was Friday night. At other places I want to be
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Speaker 1: I remember the door opening. There was a little chime
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Speaker 1: on the door. I look up, and this is something
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Speaker 1: you remember when you're eager to get out of the
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Speaker 1: shop on a Friday night, when there's only a few
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Speaker 1: minutes to go, and there's a guy standing there holding
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Speaker 1: three maclook pros. You realize this is the end of
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Speaker 1: my evening, always on a Friday night, right, bright Bart
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Speaker 1: responded in this interview, he laughed and said this customer
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Speaker 1: with the three MacBook books was pretty intoxicated. He approached
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Speaker 1: the counter and the three laptops basically slid out of
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Speaker 1: his hands onto the counter. This kind of gave me
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Speaker 1: a clue as to the individual's care level when it
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Speaker 1: came to their electronic devices. Bright Barnews says, what made
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Speaker 1: you think Hunter was drunk? The smell preceded him. He
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Speaker 1: had balanced problems, speech problems, got it. So I inspected
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Speaker 1: the laptops and explained they were liquid damaged. He said
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Speaker 1: he just wanted to get the data off them. At
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Speaker 1: this point, I have to get the customer into the system,
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Speaker 1: and even if it's a returning customer, if they are
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Speaker 1: more than a few feet away, I have to ask
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Speaker 1: their name. Mister Maciaac is legally blind. Just so you know,
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Speaker 1: he said his name was Hunter. I asked, what's your
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Speaker 1: last name? And there was a long pause, almost like
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Speaker 1: he was surprised I didn't instantly recognize him, so he responded,
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Speaker 1: almost sarcastically, Biden. Then I noticed the Bo bidensticker on
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Speaker 1: the top of the laptops. That was when I made
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Speaker 1: the connection to who he was, and I assumed he
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Speaker 1: was looking to get memories off the dead off his
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Speaker 1: dead brother off the laptop. So I actually felt sorry
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Speaker 1: for the guy and helped him recover the data of
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Speaker 1: one of the laptops without even charging him. I just
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Speaker 1: gave him a keyboard to use because they were missing
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Speaker 1: on the laptop's keyboard. He recovered that one himself in
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Speaker 1: the shop. Normally I charge two hundred dollars for data recovery,
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Speaker 1: but I charged him eighty five to recover the remaining laptop.
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Speaker 1: This guy had just lost his brother. I then wrote
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Speaker 1: up documentation saying we're going to attempt data recovery. I
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Speaker 1: worked with him for about twenty minutes. He left with
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Speaker 1: two machines. I was left with one machine and signed
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Speaker 1: paperwork allowing me to access the computer and recover data
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Speaker 1: from it. You said there were three laptops, Breitbart said.
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Speaker 1: The man who owned the shop responded with one was
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Speaker 1: a complete rite off. The liquid damage was too great.
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Speaker 1: He took that one home, along with the one he
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Speaker 1: recovered in my shop with a keyboard. The one he
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Speaker 1: left me with had power issues that made it a
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Speaker 1: touch and go process for about twenty four hours as
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Speaker 1: I mitigated the data. So you complete the data recovery,
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Speaker 1: and that was the procedure. What was the procedure from there?
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Speaker 1: I contacted in the next day, April thirteen, twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: and requested that he'd go and pick up a one
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Speaker 1: terribied external hard drive from like a Best Buy, and
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Speaker 1: if he could drop that off at his earliest convenience,
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Speaker 1: I would transfer everything from the damage computer that was
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Speaker 1: now on my secure store server. Did you contact Hunter
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Speaker 1: three email or phone phone? You remember if you spoke
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Speaker 1: with him or left a message. I want to say
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Speaker 1: I left a message. I don't think I've ever spoken
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Speaker 1: to him on the phone. I think it was the
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Speaker 1: April seventeenth when he showed up to drop off the drive.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't the best buy bag. Was he sobered during
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Speaker 1: that visit? No, no, he was not sober. Going back
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Speaker 1: to the data recovery at this point, had you seen
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Speaker 1: anything on the laptop? I'm unfamiliar with the process, so
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Speaker 1: forgive me if that's an obvious question, bright Bart News asked.
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Speaker 1: The shop owner responds with, when you're recovering data for
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Speaker 1: a customer, you want to verify it. You don't want
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Speaker 1: to call a customer and say, hey, I recovered three
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Speaker 1: hundred gigs of data off of this. Here you go
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Speaker 1: and then have them take it home just to discover
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Speaker 1: that the data corrupt. The data's corrupted, or it's missing data,
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Speaker 1: or there's an inability to access the data. Because this
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Speaker 1: machine was unable and kept unstable and kept powering on
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Speaker 1: and off, there were multiple times I had to look
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Speaker 1: at the data. Typically, when you're dealing with a lot
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Speaker 1: of data recovery from an unstable source, you want to
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Speaker 1: look at things that are going to be the most
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Speaker 1: susceptible to digital corruption. Videos have a tendency to show
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Speaker 1: corruption easier than other files on inspected video file for corruption,
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Speaker 1: and it was a good way to get a finger
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Speaker 1: on the pulse of how well the rest of data
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Speaker 1: transfer is going. Right, Bartnews says, makes sense. I want
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Speaker 1: to get into the part where this really gets intense
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Speaker 1: for this shop owner. He has to check data make
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Speaker 1: sure that the transfers are going well. You got to
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Speaker 1: see if the data transfer is corrupted. So as the
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Speaker 1: shop owner says, quote, the first time I spot checked
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Speaker 1: what I was doing, I chose the biggest file, which
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Speaker 1: was a video file, and it was a video of
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Speaker 1: him Hunter engaged in acts, multiple acts that look compromising
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Speaker 1: and gross but embarrassing above all. But at this point
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Speaker 1: there was no red flowers. His dad, Joe Biden had
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Speaker 1: not announced his candidacy yet. To me, then, this was
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Speaker 1: just a drunk guy with some nasty stuff on his computer.
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Speaker 1: It was not a political concern at that time, right,
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Speaker 1: Barnews says, And you've probably seen this before with other customers.
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Speaker 1: He responds, yes, but not this quality. It was gross,
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Speaker 1: but it's the job. Did you come across any documents
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Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah. During the spot checking, I opened
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Speaker 1: a couple of documents that immediately stuck out. There was
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Speaker 1: a file I think was called invoice, and it had
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Speaker 1: a purple dot next to it. On a Mac, you
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Speaker 1: can label files with different dots or flags, so you
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Speaker 1: can search your computer that way for all those files.
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Speaker 1: This was obviously an important file, so I wanted a
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Speaker 1: spot check it and saw a lot of money exchanging
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Speaker 1: hands two point five million from Barisma, a statement that said,
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Speaker 1: you obviously can't survive off off five hundred fifty thousand
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Speaker 1: a year. Wow. Can you imagine living in a world
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Speaker 1: where you can't survive off of more than a half
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year? It just seemed really fishy, he
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Speaker 1: went on to say. And it seemed like an awful
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Speaker 1: lot of money and a lot of clever ways to
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Speaker 1: disguise and hide that money. Okay, I thought, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of gross stuff on this computer, but there's probably
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Speaker 1: financial concerns as well, And some of those documents were
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Speaker 1: related to foreign entities and business dealings. This is when
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Speaker 1: I started to get a little concerned. But at this
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Speaker 1: point Joe had not announced his candidacy, so this is
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Speaker 1: just another guy do the job. Get him to pick
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Speaker 1: it up. And get it out of my shop. At
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Speaker 1: this point, did you have any intention of doing anything
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Speaker 1: other than just returning the laptop to Hunter like you
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Speaker 1: would any customer. The response in the shop owner, right,
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Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I had anything to fear. Yet
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Speaker 1: it was gross and embarrassing, but this was still just
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Speaker 1: a guy. It wasn't until I'm making multi bull attempts
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Speaker 1: to get him to pick up pick it up, and
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Speaker 1: his dad announces his run for the president on April
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Speaker 1: nineteen that I have a bigger fear. What if I
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Speaker 1: knew this was somewhere out There is signed paperwork in
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Speaker 1: Hunter's possession that says I was allowed to look and
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Speaker 1: recover data from this laptop. I could only imagine how
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Speaker 1: that there was someone on Joe Biden's staff, secret service
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Speaker 1: maybe who's responsible for wrangling in old Biden family electronic devices.
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Speaker 1: The shop owner states, if you have someone in your
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Speaker 1: family who is a bit of a loose cannon, wouldn't
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Speaker 1: you want to make sure their electronic devices are accounted for? Right?
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Speaker 1: Bar News. When he gave you the laptop, he gave
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Speaker 1: you authorization in writing to access all the content. Correct,
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Speaker 1: shop owner. Correct, And he has his copy of that agreement,
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Speaker 1: which could be on the floor of his truck or
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Speaker 1: on his nightstand. There was paperwork out there that gave
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Speaker 1: me permission to go into the drive and recover the data.
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Speaker 1: And if someone was worried about what was on the drive,
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Speaker 1: they were going to be worried about what I saw.
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Speaker 1: How much did you put into contacting him once the
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Speaker 1: job was done. I called him up to three or
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Speaker 1: four times over the course of a month and a
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Speaker 1: half two months there was no response. But by this
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Speaker 1: time Joe Biden has announces run and I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to get this out of my shop. I also sent
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Speaker 1: him a way to pay electronically the eighty five dollar
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Speaker 1: bill was never paid. That would have sent him regular
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Speaker 1: and automatic email reminders. So to be clear, Hunter drops
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Speaker 1: off his laptop on April the twelfth, twenty nineteen. His
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Speaker 1: data announces presidential run on April the twenty fifth. You've
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Speaker 1: made numerous attempts to reach Hunter and get this out
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Speaker 1: of your shop. Then what it's now May and things
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Speaker 1: get busy in the shop. The kids are getting out
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Speaker 1: of school and they want stuff fixed, along with educators.
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Speaker 1: So I got pretty busy and I didn't really pay
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Speaker 1: attention to anything until I saw on the news that
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Speaker 1: there were investigations into Barisma and Hunter Biden, and I
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Speaker 1: remembered seeing those names while verifying the data. So I'm
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Speaker 1: starting to really get concerned that there might be something
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Speaker 1: on this drive. Part of me was curious, but the
23:24
Speaker 1: other part of me said, I need to get this
23:26
Speaker 1: laptop out of here. The whole time, hanging over my
23:29
Speaker 1: head is this document out there ian Hunter's possession giving
23:32
Speaker 1: me the okay to look at this drive as a
23:35
Speaker 1: summer progressed. I became even more concerned. The shop owner says,
23:39
Speaker 1: then it's mid July, and after several more attempts to
23:42
Speaker 1: get him to pick it up, it became my property
23:46
Speaker 1: after those ninety days when it was legally my property.
23:52
Speaker 1: Curiosity killed the cat and I went into the laptop.
23:56
Speaker 1: Editor's note. When Hunter Biden signed the paperwork, the work agreement,
23:59
Speaker 1: it slipulated, and this is standard for repair businesses that
24:03
Speaker 1: if he didn't pay for the repair, pick it up
24:05
Speaker 1: after ninety days, ownership transferred to mister mac Isaac. Now
24:09
Speaker 1: you're looking at the laptop's content, whine Bright bart Nude's ass.
24:14
Speaker 1: I went in because I was concerned there was activity
24:16
Speaker 1: related to Barisma. That was all I focused my attention on.
24:21
Speaker 1: I ignored the porn and everything that was silacious. I
24:25
Speaker 1: wanted to see if I was sitting on something that
24:27
Speaker 1: was potentially criminal and part of a criminal investigation. What
24:32
Speaker 1: I saw I would describe as sinister, a blatant pay
24:35
Speaker 1: to play scheme, and appeared to be very shady. For example,
24:39
Speaker 1: you have a private Ukrainian citizen getting emails from the
24:43
Speaker 1: White House discussing scheduling with the then Vice President Biden.
24:48
Speaker 1: Coming from a military family, especially my dad, I knew
24:51
Speaker 1: that the last thing you should do is discussing an
24:54
Speaker 1: open air email the Vice President's travel plans. At this point,
24:59
Speaker 1: I real lies this is beyond me. I'm in too deep.
25:03
Speaker 1: So by the end of summer I determined that I
25:05
Speaker 1: needed to some level of protection, and the best way
25:09
Speaker 1: to do that was to get the laptop and the
25:13
Speaker 1: drive to the FBI. So we're in August September, bright
25:18
Speaker 1: Barton News asked, He says, responds the shop owner, September.
25:22
Speaker 1: So by now you've had the laptop since mid April.
25:25
Speaker 1: What do you mean by a level of protection. I
25:29
Speaker 1: was increasingly concerned someone was going to come to me
25:32
Speaker 1: and silence me either legally or physically. You were concerned
25:36
Speaker 1: for your physical safety, Bright Barton News ass the shop owner.
25:41
Speaker 1: I believe I had. I had just cause to be
25:44
Speaker 1: concerned for my physical safety, and I figured if I
25:47
Speaker 1: went to the FBI, I was doing the right thing.
25:50
Speaker 1: I was following what I call the chain of command,
25:53
Speaker 1: and the FBI would have a paper then would have
25:56
Speaker 1: a paper trail. This way, I could never be accused
25:58
Speaker 1: of leaking things to tabloids, or trying to blackmail Hunter Biden,
26:02
Speaker 1: or anything an evil person would do. In my situation,
26:06
Speaker 1: I wanted the FBI involved and to voice my concerns
26:10
Speaker 1: to them about my physical and legal safety. This is
26:14
Speaker 1: information that pertained to a candidate for the president of
26:17
Speaker 1: the United States of America. I trusted the federal government
26:21
Speaker 1: enough and wanted a paper trail that showed I was
26:23
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. The FBI would be aware of
26:26
Speaker 1: my situation, and I would have a number I could
26:29
Speaker 1: call if I needed help. I just knew that the
26:32
Speaker 1: FBI was there was where this had to end up,
26:36
Speaker 1: Bright bart News. At this point, had you made any
26:39
Speaker 1: other copies of the hard drive other than the hard
26:42
Speaker 1: drive Hunter gave you shop owner. No. At this point,
26:48
Speaker 1: I was only on my store server. It was only
26:52
Speaker 1: on my store server, which I kept for a couple
26:54
Speaker 1: of weeks after the customer collects their device. That way,
26:57
Speaker 1: if there's a problem, I can always go to the
26:59
Speaker 1: store server. His equipment was gathering dust on a shelf.
27:03
Speaker 1: I hadn't made any other copies until I spoke with
27:05
Speaker 1: my father. I eventually told him, look, Dad, I have
27:09
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's laptop. It's full of stuff that looks criminal.
27:12
Speaker 1: There's embarrassing stuff. I'm worried if it gets out, If
27:15
Speaker 1: someone on the campaign discovers I have it, I'm going
27:18
Speaker 1: to be in trouble. I told him I wanted to
27:20
Speaker 1: take it to the FBI, but not in Delaware with
27:24
Speaker 1: its good old boy politics. I asked him to take
27:27
Speaker 1: it to the FBI and Albuquerque. I mailed him a
27:29
Speaker 1: copy of the drive and the paperwork. But also by
27:34
Speaker 1: this time I had watched the FBI get involved with
27:37
Speaker 1: Trump and Russian collusion and no longer felt that the
27:41
Speaker 1: FBI was a safe bet smart man. So I made
27:46
Speaker 1: another copy of the drive and wrote a letter to
27:48
Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani telling him what's going on. All of that
27:52
Speaker 1: the letter to Giuliani, and a copy of the hard
27:54
Speaker 1: drive was given to a trusted friend with instructions to
27:56
Speaker 1: hand the letter and hard drive to Giuliani if anything
27:59
Speaker 1: happened to me. That was my come save me plan.
28:05
Speaker 1: Now you've got to think about how terrified this man
28:08
Speaker 1: is to not trust his own government, to not trust
28:12
Speaker 1: the media, not to be afraid that his life could
28:16
Speaker 1: be ended because he had a laptop that was in
28:19
Speaker 1: his possession that Hunter Biden never came and picked up.
28:23
Speaker 1: Bright Bartnews says, So we're in September of twenty nineteen,
28:26
Speaker 1: and now your friend is sitting on the letter and
28:28
Speaker 1: your dad is headed the FBI. Right, dad went to
28:31
Speaker 1: the FBI in October and the FBI slammed the door
28:33
Speaker 1: in his face, told him to get out of their
28:35
Speaker 1: office while you're up, and don't talk to anybody about
28:39
Speaker 1: any of this. Really, bright Bartnews says. The shop owner says,
28:44
Speaker 1: my father described as the most embarrassing moment of his life.
28:46
Speaker 1: This is a thirty year Air Force colonel to give
28:49
Speaker 1: thirty years of your service and have a bureaucrap slammed
28:52
Speaker 1: the door in your face. So we sat in the
28:55
Speaker 1: dark for a month scratching our heads wondering what we
28:57
Speaker 1: do now, but the fear level ratch it up because
29:00
Speaker 1: now the FBI knows that we have this and doesn't
29:02
Speaker 1: want to do anything. They kept the paperwork we presented,
29:06
Speaker 1: the repair agreement, etc. But refused to accept the hard drive.
29:10
Speaker 1: So now the FBI is saying, we don't want the
29:12
Speaker 1: hard drive. We just want to know who you are
29:13
Speaker 1: and the agreement so we know who you are. Does
29:17
Speaker 1: that sound like the deep state and the swamp that
29:19
Speaker 1: the President of the United States of America, Donald Trump
29:21
Speaker 1: warned us all about. Yeah. A month later, an FBI
29:25
Speaker 1: agent i'll call Agent Joshua reached out to my father.
29:29
Speaker 1: He wanted to contact me. I did some research on
29:33
Speaker 1: him online. He seemed like a good guy who had
29:36
Speaker 1: focused a lot of time going after child predator. So
29:39
Speaker 1: I trusted him and arrange some meeting at my house.
29:43
Speaker 1: Bright Martinude says, where are we at now in the year?
29:47
Speaker 1: When was this meeting arranged? Mid November? He showed up
29:51
Speaker 1: with another agent I'll call Agent Mike. I voiced my
29:54
Speaker 1: concerns about people for an in domestic who might want
29:58
Speaker 1: to do me harm over what I've seen told them,
30:00
Speaker 1: and I want a paper trail and the ability to
30:02
Speaker 1: contact them if something happens. They told me they couldn't
30:06
Speaker 1: take the laptop due to legal concerns. Really, the FBI
30:10
Speaker 1: can't take a laptop. These are the people that take
30:12
Speaker 1: laptops all the time, folks. But they would quote get
30:16
Speaker 1: back to me on the morning of December ninth, agent
30:19
Speaker 1: might call me for the serial number of the hard drive.
30:22
Speaker 1: Initially they said they were just going to come in
30:25
Speaker 1: and make a clone of the drive. But they showed
30:28
Speaker 1: up at ten am in my shop with a subpoena
30:30
Speaker 1: for everything, which I thought was great. I wanted them
30:34
Speaker 1: to take everything. I wanted it out of my shop. Right.
30:38
Speaker 1: Barnews says, Okay, so we're in December. You've had this
30:42
Speaker 1: compromising information since April, for eight months, and you've not
30:45
Speaker 1: reached out to anyone other than the FBI. Correct. You'd
30:49
Speaker 1: not even reached out to Giuliani. Correct, You had only
30:52
Speaker 1: sent the letter and hard drive to a friend to
30:54
Speaker 1: send to Giuliani in case of trouble. Right, that's right.
30:57
Speaker 1: The man says. How many copies were there the hard
30:59
Speaker 1: drive at this point? My dad had the copy that
31:02
Speaker 1: was supposed to go to the FBI, but they declined it.
31:05
Speaker 1: My friend had a copy for safekeeping. I had a
31:07
Speaker 1: copy on my store server. Did the FBI ever demand
31:11
Speaker 1: all the copies? Nope, they never asked, and I wasn't
31:14
Speaker 1: about to advertise smart Bright Bartnews says for perspective, it
31:20
Speaker 1: was around September twenty eighth when the Wall Street Journal
31:23
Speaker 1: released a call that then President Trump was putting pressure
31:26
Speaker 1: on Ukraine President Zelenski for information about what the Bidens
31:31
Speaker 1: were up to during the Obama administration, and Democrat House
31:34
Speaker 1: Speaker Nancy Pelosi ran with that as grounds for impeachment.
31:38
Speaker 1: When I realized all of this, he was at the
31:41
Speaker 1: same time when my dad was going to the FBI,
31:44
Speaker 1: and I thought the timing would be critical or crucial
31:47
Speaker 1: because that was on the laptop, and what was on
31:50
Speaker 1: the laptop showed why Trump called Zelensky to find out
31:53
Speaker 1: about the Bidens in Ukraine. I felt it was important
31:57
Speaker 1: that the laptop be admitted as evidence if there was
31:59
Speaker 1: an impeach trial. So now it's December, these two FBI
32:04
Speaker 1: agents are in my house and I gave them pronounce
32:07
Speaker 1: from the laptop that would show them that the laptop
32:10
Speaker 1: was relevant evidence to the impeachment hearings. They refused to
32:14
Speaker 1: look at it or even pick it up. I never said, hey,
32:17
Speaker 1: this is relevant to impeachment. I didn't want this to
32:20
Speaker 1: be partisan. I just wanted to do the right thing.
32:24
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be political about it, but the
32:26
Speaker 1: country was headed to its third impeachment in history, and
32:30
Speaker 1: if I could prevent that embarrassment, I wanted to try
32:34
Speaker 1: Right Bart News. At this point, still, after eight months
32:36
Speaker 1: and all the political stuff going on, you had to
32:39
Speaker 1: you had not reached out to the media or any
32:41
Speaker 1: political operatives like Giuliani. Shop owner, No, it would have
32:47
Speaker 1: been completely inappropriate. Only the FBI. The FBI is where
32:52
Speaker 1: this had to go. So I gave them everything and
32:55
Speaker 1: joked about leaving their names out of any book I write.
32:59
Speaker 1: And this is when Agent Mike says, in our experience,
33:02
Speaker 1: nothing ever happens to people who don't talk about these things.
33:06
Speaker 1: Whoa right Bartnews responds shop owner. I was so happy
33:14
Speaker 1: to get that stuff out of my life. It took
33:17
Speaker 1: me a couple of hours before I realize that that
33:20
Speaker 1: was a thinly veiled threat. Sure was. They also said
33:26
Speaker 1: that if anyone comes looking for the laptop, that I'm
33:28
Speaker 1: supposed to stall them. Say it's off site and I'll
33:32
Speaker 1: need a couple of days to get it. The FBI said,
33:35
Speaker 1: I'm to take this person's information, contact them, and the
33:39
Speaker 1: FBI will return everything to me. Well that's a red flag.
33:43
Speaker 1: How can they return everything if it's going to be
33:47
Speaker 1: considered evidence. Agent Mike told me he was my contact now,
33:52
Speaker 1: not Agent Josh, and I'm only to contact him via
33:56
Speaker 1: text message, no emails. A couple of hours after they
34:00
Speaker 1: collect the equipment, I got a call from an IT
34:02
Speaker 1: guy at the Wilmington FBI office. They were having trouble
34:06
Speaker 1: accessing the drive. There were two separate calls where I
34:10
Speaker 1: had to help them through this. But this was another
34:13
Speaker 1: red flag. Why didn't it go directly to DC? Why
34:16
Speaker 1: are they poking it with a stick in a field office.
34:19
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, Agent Mike calls and asked if anyone's
34:22
Speaker 1: been in and seen and seemed surprised no one has this.
34:27
Speaker 1: As mid December twenty nineteen, we get through the holidays,
34:31
Speaker 1: the impeachment hearings begin. I keep waiting for the laptop
34:34
Speaker 1: to be admitted into evidence. I'd seen what was on
34:37
Speaker 1: the laptop. I knew it was relevant to impeachment. The
34:40
Speaker 1: very least, it should have been given to the White
34:42
Speaker 1: House to aid in the present's defense. So at this
34:46
Speaker 1: time I can only assume the FBI has no intention
34:48
Speaker 1: of letting that laptop be submitted as evidence. Now I
34:52
Speaker 1: have to worry about myself, my own safety and identity.
34:56
Speaker 1: I felt even more alone and exposed. This is when
35:00
Speaker 1: went to Giuliani No with the help of my father
35:03
Speaker 1: and uncle. This is when we tried to go to
35:06
Speaker 1: Congress after the FBI slash Justice Department. That seemed like
35:09
Speaker 1: the appropriate next step. Republicans and Democrats are just republicans.
35:15
Speaker 1: Brightbart News ass shop owner says Republicans. All I wanted
35:19
Speaker 1: from day one was to stay safe, protect my business,
35:22
Speaker 1: and protect my status in my community. And I knew
35:24
Speaker 1: that in northern Delaware, Biden country, I would have to
35:27
Speaker 1: remain in the shadows. So I enlisted two retired colonels,
35:31
Speaker 1: my father and uncle, to go to Congress for me.
35:34
Speaker 1: They also tried to reach the White House without any luck.
35:37
Speaker 1: And this is my biggest regret, my fear of being exposed,
35:40
Speaker 1: that my father and uncle out there to Congress and
35:43
Speaker 1: they were met by the guards. I think I could
35:48
Speaker 1: have explained what I had better, Especially in an environment
35:51
Speaker 1: where the fear of Russian disinformation was so great that
35:54
Speaker 1: anything like this was being shut down. Everyone was afraid
35:57
Speaker 1: to let anyone talk to anyone for fear being caught
36:00
Speaker 1: up in a conspiracy. Now you've been sitting on this
36:04
Speaker 1: for nine months, why not go to the media right
36:07
Speaker 1: bart Neew's ass shop owner. I wanted to do this
36:11
Speaker 1: right through the correct channels. I tried the Justice Department,
36:14
Speaker 1: I tried Congress, and now it's August twenty twenty. I've
36:18
Speaker 1: been sitting on this for more than a year, and
36:20
Speaker 1: I've decided it was time to go to the present,
36:21
Speaker 1: directly to his attorney. So I came out of the
36:24
Speaker 1: shadows and emailed Giuliani directly. So you waited until August
36:27
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You waited sixteen months, shop owner end of
36:32
Speaker 1: August around the twenty fourth, nine months after the FBI
36:35
Speaker 1: picked it up and did nothing with it. You gave
36:37
Speaker 1: the FBI nine months to do the right thing. Yep,
36:41
Speaker 1: And I get a call from Rudy's lawyer, Bob Costello.
36:45
Speaker 1: It was a few days before they believed I was
36:48
Speaker 1: for real, and on August twenty eighth, I overnight a
36:52
Speaker 1: copy of the drive. Bob wanted to pay for the
36:55
Speaker 1: shipping and reimburse me for the drive. I said no,
36:57
Speaker 1: I didn't want any money. Bob Costello, by the way,
37:01
Speaker 1: confirmed this. That's how paranoid I was about anyone judging
37:06
Speaker 1: this in a certain light. Perceptions mattered. The shop owner said,
37:09
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to the press because I
37:11
Speaker 1: didn't want to be accused of not going through the
37:14
Speaker 1: proper channels or doing this for money. I've seen how
37:18
Speaker 1: things can pervert noble gestures, and I didn't want my
37:21
Speaker 1: action seen as anything other than honorable. No money change hands,
37:26
Speaker 1: even for your expenses, questioned Mark bright Bart News asked
37:30
Speaker 1: shop owner, right, and I didn't want anyone to know
37:33
Speaker 1: who I was, including Giuliani. My thinking was geared towards
37:38
Speaker 1: saving my denity in business. So Rudy's attorney has the drive,
37:42
Speaker 1: and I'm happy. I'm thinking mission accomplished. It's over. I
37:45
Speaker 1: have a paper trail proven, the FBI has it, the
37:47
Speaker 1: Presence lawyer has it. I haven't profited. I've acted honorably.
37:51
Speaker 1: I thought my job was done. Then on September the twenties,
37:55
Speaker 1: fifth Republican Senator Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson released their
37:59
Speaker 1: Senate rep on Hunter's business dealings. I went through it.
38:02
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of the money that was given
38:04
Speaker 1: to Hunter, but not what he had done to earn
38:08
Speaker 1: that money. So I reached out to Senator Johnson's office
38:11
Speaker 1: or the whistleblower link on the website and explained the
38:13
Speaker 1: situation I was in. I heard back, but the fear
38:17
Speaker 1: of Russian disinformation got nowhere other than a ninety minute
38:21
Speaker 1: call with two NSA guys and a johnson A grilling
38:24
Speaker 1: me about being a Russian spy instead of the laptop contents.
38:27
Speaker 1: They never once asked me about the laptop right, Bartnews
38:32
Speaker 1: sounds like they might have been worried about getting pranked exactly.
38:36
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't fault them. The hysteria was
38:38
Speaker 1: so whipped up. I'm disappointed, but life goes on. Then
38:42
Speaker 1: on Sunday, October eleventh, twenty twenty, a few days before
38:46
Speaker 1: the Posts ran the story. On October fourteenth, I get
38:51
Speaker 1: a knock on my door. The shop's closed, but I'm
38:55
Speaker 1: in there working and it's a reporter, which scared the
38:58
Speaker 1: hell out of me. Ever thought I would have to
39:00
Speaker 1: speak to a reporter It was never my intention, but
39:04
Speaker 1: now my name is out there. Who gave your name
39:06
Speaker 1: to the Post? I called Bob Costell and asked, why
39:10
Speaker 1: is the press here? He assured me the Post is
39:12
Speaker 1: going to run the story, but this standard, this is
39:14
Speaker 1: standard operating procedure. They wanted to ensure you're a real person.
39:19
Speaker 1: Then on the night of October thirteenth that I get
39:21
Speaker 1: a call from Hunter's lawyers, George Massirius, and he asked
39:27
Speaker 1: me if I was still in possession of a laptop
39:31
Speaker 1: his client dropped off in April of the previous year.
39:36
Speaker 1: I told him what the FBI told me to say.
39:40
Speaker 1: Please for your credentials so I know you who are
39:43
Speaker 1: who you say you are. He agreed, but also asked
39:46
Speaker 1: questions about my physical location. Is your store still in
39:50
Speaker 1: the shopping center? So now I'm scared. I didn't go
39:53
Speaker 1: home that night. I called Bob Costello. He tells me,
39:56
Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag. The Posts run the
39:58
Speaker 1: story tomorrow. There's nothing that can be done. It's I
40:02
Speaker 1: slapped at a friend's house that night. I wake up
40:05
Speaker 1: the next morning and my phone is blowing up the Post.
40:08
Speaker 1: Forget the Post, forgot to blow out my shop's name
40:11
Speaker 1: and one of the images they published, So within an
40:13
Speaker 1: hour everyone knew who I was. Then within an hour
40:16
Speaker 1: I watched Twitter and mainstream media block and repress the story. Right,
40:21
Speaker 1: bart News, it sounds like you had an agreement with
40:23
Speaker 1: a post remain anonymous shop owner. I didn't want my
40:28
Speaker 1: name or shop name made public. I was. It was
40:31
Speaker 1: a tiny mistake on their part. They bloored out everything
40:34
Speaker 1: in the Hunter paperwork except some fine print that said
40:38
Speaker 1: the mac shop is not liable. They were very apologetic.
40:42
Speaker 1: In my mind, the Post did what I needed them
40:44
Speaker 1: to do. They got the story out, and that's what
40:47
Speaker 1: I wanted. To protect my personal safety, especially if Biden one.
40:50
Speaker 1: If Biden one and this had not been made public,
40:53
Speaker 1: with all of the people who knew I had this,
40:55
Speaker 1: how would I have survived? Not to beat up post.
41:00
Speaker 1: This is bright bart News talking now, It says, but
41:04
Speaker 1: the what if question must be a pebble in your shoe,
41:08
Speaker 1: as in, how different would my life be right now
41:11
Speaker 1: had the Post protected my identity? Shop owner says, I
41:16
Speaker 1: don't look at it that way. My what if is
41:20
Speaker 1: what if the FBI had done its job? What if
41:23
Speaker 1: they had taken the drive in October twenty nineteen and
41:26
Speaker 1: done something with it instead of doing nothing with it.
41:29
Speaker 1: I count four times, including the time Rudy handed it
41:33
Speaker 1: to them, that the FBI had the opportunity, opportunity to
41:36
Speaker 1: do something and chose not to. If they had done nothing,
41:40
Speaker 1: if they excuse me, if they had done something two
41:42
Speaker 1: and a half years ago, maybe now I would have
41:44
Speaker 1: a job and I wouldn't have had to have gone
41:47
Speaker 1: to Giuliani, and Giuliani wouldn't have had to go to
41:49
Speaker 1: the Post to get the truth out bright bart News.
41:53
Speaker 1: Excellent point. Tell me what happened to your life afterwards?
41:57
Speaker 1: You lost your shop, correct? I did? I tried to
42:00
Speaker 1: open for another two and a half weeks, initially because
42:03
Speaker 1: the corporate media and social media suppression. My customers were
42:05
Speaker 1: unaware of the story. The only question they had were
42:09
Speaker 1: about why there were police cars parked outside the shop.
42:13
Speaker 1: Police cars. I have to say, the Wilmington Police Department
42:16
Speaker 1: really stepped up after the death threats started pouring in.
42:19
Speaker 1: I called Bob Castello, who called Wilmington PDE who had
42:22
Speaker 1: a trooper out there whenever I was in the shop.
42:24
Speaker 1: I cannot thank them enough for that. I tell you
42:26
Speaker 1: my mom felt better knowing I was being looked after,
42:29
Speaker 1: what form did the death threats come in? I'd answer
42:32
Speaker 1: the phone and hear terrible things. I had to file.
42:35
Speaker 1: I had to file a terrorist threat report with a police.
42:38
Speaker 1: Not so many emails or text but a lot of
42:41
Speaker 1: stuff about how Putin thank me for my service, or
42:43
Speaker 1: how I'm a Russian stooge, or how I'm a hacker
42:46
Speaker 1: who's going to go to prison. That's what I didn't
42:49
Speaker 1: get why people were calling me a criminal. I had
42:52
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty voicemails the first day with people saying
42:55
Speaker 1: I hope you get blown up in prison, and I
42:58
Speaker 1: hope you rot in jail, and I'm just scratching my head.
43:02
Speaker 1: I went to the FBI. If I did something wrong,
43:05
Speaker 1: they would have come after me. It wasn't until later
43:08
Speaker 1: that I realized this was because of Twitter. Twitter had
43:10
Speaker 1: labeled me a hacker by labeling the material hacked material,
43:15
Speaker 1: So people identified me as a hacker who had hacked
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Speaker 1: hunter's computer and stole the data and broke the law.
43:22
Speaker 1: As far as the allegations about me working for Putin,
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Speaker 1: I can think fifty intelligence officials for that one. My
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Speaker 1: family served during the Cold War. My father and grandfather,
43:32
Speaker 1: So that didn't sit well. I remember those fifty intelligence
43:35
Speaker 1: officials came out and said this was Russian disinformation, even
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Speaker 1: though they knew the laptop was real. This came from
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Speaker 1: the deep state at the highest level. James Clapper, John Brennan.
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Speaker 1: They said Hunter Biden's emails was Russian different disinformation, whether
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Speaker 1: genuine or not. They all did this to this poor
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Speaker 1: man who was just trying to do the right thing.
43:53
Speaker 1: Don't forget that bright Bart news. So you had to
43:57
Speaker 1: close down after two and a half weeks. Yes, things
43:59
Speaker 1: were were getting real sketchy. People were coming into the
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Speaker 1: shop without computers, which was a bad sign. That happened
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Speaker 1: a lot. Did they come to glare at you or
44:07
Speaker 1: yell at you. Luckily, it was busy, so when I'd
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Speaker 1: ask what they need, if they needed help, they would
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Speaker 1: say the computer was in their car and never come
44:15
Speaker 1: back in. But I was only busy because the media
44:19
Speaker 1: blocked the story and my customers didn't know. But that
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Speaker 1: only lasted for a week or two. After the story
44:25
Speaker 1: spread through, I lost my computer my customers. Add that
44:30
Speaker 1: to the death threats and these visitors, it was becoming
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Speaker 1: very becoming too dangerous. I needed to get out bride
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Speaker 1: bart News. So the story broke on October fourteenth, twenty twenty.
44:39
Speaker 1: When did you abandon your shop? I closed up November
44:42
Speaker 1: the second I left the state November fifth. How long
44:45
Speaker 1: were you gone? About a year? So what's your financial
44:48
Speaker 1: situation now? Shop owner? Bankruptcy is possible. I could lose
44:52
Speaker 1: my house. I'm not there yet, and I hope not
44:57
Speaker 1: to lose my house. A friend finally convinced me to
44:59
Speaker 1: let her open give send Go account to help me out.
45:05
Speaker 1: That's helping some. I'm also doing odd jobs like going
45:08
Speaker 1: to people's homes and picking up trash for twenty dollars
45:11
Speaker 1: an hour. It's not like fixing computers like it used to.
45:14
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to go back in the business because I
45:16
Speaker 1: have no control over who will show up. After seventeen months,
45:21
Speaker 1: are you still being harassed? Bright bart New's ass? Every
45:24
Speaker 1: day I wake up to someone posting a new thing
45:25
Speaker 1: about me being a Russian stooge. Putin invading Ukraine has
45:29
Speaker 1: created a groundswelve attacks against me. You know, Putin thanks
45:32
Speaker 1: you for your service, or if you're still out of money,
45:35
Speaker 1: go to Putin he paid you before. That's daily. How
45:39
Speaker 1: do they reach you. I have a YouTube channel where
45:42
Speaker 1: I defend myself in postmac tech stuff. YouTube naturally has
45:46
Speaker 1: suppressed my reach, but people find it and post in.
45:49
Speaker 1: The comments are on Facebook page, which I don't care
45:52
Speaker 1: about anymore. This stuff doesn't really bother me. I'm a
45:58
Speaker 1: sticks in stones kind of purse and I'm a blind albino,
46:02
Speaker 1: the man says, which is true. I've been picked on
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Speaker 1: forever and haven't cared for forty five years. I just
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Speaker 1: don't want to. I just don't want to break through
46:12
Speaker 1: my window, and being legally blind, I would never see
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Speaker 1: anything coming. It's caution now, not fear. Brye bart News.
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Speaker 1: You're a forty five year old man. You handled a
46:22
Speaker 1: situation you did not ask to be dropped into about
46:26
Speaker 1: as honestly and honorable as anyone could. And your name
46:29
Speaker 1: has been smeared and run through the mud. You lost
46:32
Speaker 1: your shop, your business. It's so unjust I can hardly
46:36
Speaker 1: articulate it. How do you perceive your future? What's your
46:39
Speaker 1: outlook on life? The shop owner laughs, with the New
46:43
Speaker 1: York Times finally coming out last week and admitting the
46:46
Speaker 1: laptop was real. That's what I want to see more
46:49
Speaker 1: of the more that the news gets out that I'm
46:52
Speaker 1: not a hacker, not a Russian spot, not a trader.
46:54
Speaker 1: The more quickly and officially I can rebuild my life.
46:59
Speaker 1: Once people realize he's not these things, he did the
47:03
Speaker 1: right thing, then I feel I will have an opportunity
47:06
Speaker 1: to rebuild my life. Last week with the New York
47:10
Speaker 1: Times admission that that was the first glimmer of hope
47:14
Speaker 1: I've had an over a year. It's only one news source,
47:17
Speaker 1: but the Washington Post just reached out to me, so right,
47:21
Speaker 1: bar news. After all the lies the corporate media told
47:24
Speaker 1: about you, do you trust them now? Shop owner? I
47:28
Speaker 1: remember the day after the story broke. It was October
47:31
Speaker 1: the fifteenth, twenty nineteen, and I had CNN, The New
47:36
Speaker 1: York Times, a Washington Post in my store. It was
47:39
Speaker 1: immediately obvious they were only there to catch me in
47:43
Speaker 1: a lie. They were not there for the truth. They
47:46
Speaker 1: wanted to catch me revealing their narrative. I told them everything.
47:51
Speaker 1: I offered to show them a photo of Hunters signed authorization.
47:55
Speaker 1: They weren't interested. They were only interested in there narrative.
48:01
Speaker 1: They were only interested in what their trusted government sources
48:05
Speaker 1: were feeding them, So they published nothing. I said because
48:08
Speaker 1: it wasn't what they wanted to hear that this was
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Speaker 1: a valid, factual, and consequential story. Yesterday I left to
48:18
Speaker 1: comment with a Washington Post and they probably won't publish that. Right.
48:22
Speaker 1: Bart News, CNN, the New York Times, and Washington Post
48:25
Speaker 1: didn't use anything you said back when the story first
48:27
Speaker 1: broke question mark. They were only interested in discrediting me.
48:31
Speaker 1: If not, they would have told the public what I
48:33
Speaker 1: told them. The thing that messed me up is that
48:37
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for this. No one coached me. I
48:40
Speaker 1: didn't even know what I could or could not say.
48:44
Speaker 1: I'm cornered in my shop by five members of the press.
48:47
Speaker 1: It was a very awkward interview. It was as uncomfortable
48:51
Speaker 1: as I'd ever been. My main concern was protecting my family.
48:53
Speaker 1: I didn't want my dad harassed, So it was awkward.
48:57
Speaker 1: Bright Bart News, I honestly didn't don't see anything you
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Speaker 1: did wrong here. But let me ask if you would
49:03
Speaker 1: do anything differently if you got to do over shop owner.
49:08
Speaker 1: Definitely I would have grown a pair if I had
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Speaker 1: known then that it didn't matter that I was going
49:15
Speaker 1: to lose it all anyway, my business, maybe my home
49:18
Speaker 1: and have to flee the state for a year. I
49:20
Speaker 1: would have reached out to Giuliani at the same time
49:22
Speaker 1: I reached out the FBI, bride Bar News. You waited
49:26
Speaker 1: more than nine months after contacting the FBI to contact Giuliani. Yeah,
49:30
Speaker 1: I don't blame myself, But had I known I would
49:33
Speaker 1: lose everything anyway? Will I feel like I could have
49:37
Speaker 1: done more had I been less concerned about protecting myself.
49:40
Speaker 1: Maybe I do blame myself, bride Bar News, or just
49:43
Speaker 1: published the contents the laptop online? Shop owner, you know,
49:47
Speaker 1: doing that the WikiLeaks thing just didn't feel right. We
49:51
Speaker 1: have all these systems in place for a reason. Good point, right,
49:54
Speaker 1: Bartnews says shop owner. You have to trust the system
49:59
Speaker 1: that it's going to Once you go outside the system,
50:02
Speaker 1: it has no purpose. I felt I had to do
50:04
Speaker 1: it this way, but given a second chance, I would
50:08
Speaker 1: I would do the same, but would work the parallel
50:10
Speaker 1: angle with Giuliani and not worry so much about self preservation.
50:14
Speaker 1: Some things are more important than self preservation. This country
50:17
Speaker 1: owes you an apology, bright, Bartnew says. The shop owner says, quote,
50:22
Speaker 1: only half the country owes me an apology. The other
50:25
Speaker 1: half keeps going that positive feedback from those who know
50:30
Speaker 1: I did the right thing has been phenomenal. But people
50:33
Speaker 1: don't understand that something like this, what something like this
50:37
Speaker 1: can do to crush the individual. I was an exile
50:40
Speaker 1: in Colorado. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't go anywhere.
50:43
Speaker 1: Everything I loved and cared about was far away, including
50:46
Speaker 1: my cats. Takes a lot out of you emotionally. I
50:49
Speaker 1: got really it got really tough. If if it wasn't
50:52
Speaker 1: for the support I received, not just from family and friends,
50:55
Speaker 1: but thousands and thousands of complete strangers that told me
50:58
Speaker 1: that what I did was right. If I didn't have that,
51:01
Speaker 1: I don't know where i'd be right now. I hope
51:05
Speaker 1: all of you, by the way, we'll go to give,
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Speaker 1: send go and donate. I think it's shocking how little
51:12
Speaker 1: money has been raised so far. I want to make
51:15
Speaker 1: that clear. They've only raised seventy four thousand for this guy.
51:22
Speaker 1: You can go to give, send go, and I'll put
51:24
Speaker 1: a link up on our social media accounts. But it's
51:29
Speaker 1: called build back mac Isaac. The funds received will go
51:35
Speaker 1: to John Paul Maciaac. Seventy four thousand is all that
51:39
Speaker 1: has been given to this guy, which is insane, which
51:41
Speaker 1: should be at this point, I think millions of dollars.
51:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to post it on all of our social
51:48
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51:51
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Speaker 1: let us, we will put it up there for you.
51:57
Speaker 1: So make sure that you go and give. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: give because I think it's important that this man has
52:04
Speaker 1: a future. It's shocking what has happened to this man.
52:13
Speaker 1: It makes me angry what the government did to him,
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Speaker 1: what James Clapper would, John Brennan did to him, what
52:20
Speaker 1: the White House has done to him, what the Bidens
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