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Charles Gregory Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: than thirty five years of experience in cosmic quality, cosmetology
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Speaker 1: and beauty instructures his business and clude the Charles Gregory
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Speaker 1: Blow Driving Beauty Bar located in midtown Atlanta, Georgia, who
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Speaker 1: is owner and operator. He's also the creator of the
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Speaker 1: renowned Weird Collection. Please welcome to money making Conversations. Charles Gregory.
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Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm doing fantastic. I'm good, glad to
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Speaker 1: be here. Thanks for having me. Well, first of all,
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Speaker 1: let's let's consider ourselves friends. Because I developed this show
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Speaker 1: um kind of like you know, I stop managing Steve Harvey,
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Speaker 1: trying to find my voice and I almost two years
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Speaker 1: ago I launched the show and it was just celebrity driven,
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Speaker 1: all my friends and the injury. And then one day
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Speaker 1: I told my staff, ago, what is this show? Why
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Speaker 1: am I doing this show? And now that's the show
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Speaker 1: about giving the voice to entrepreneurs that they can don't
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Speaker 1: know they can trust that when they come on my
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Speaker 1: show and now that it's a show about your brand
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Speaker 1: and also giving advice to people who are trying to
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Speaker 1: travel the path that you you you built. That's very
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Speaker 1: that's very good because people need that. You know, we
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Speaker 1: need mentors and um you know, I'm into mentorship because
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Speaker 1: I I'm educated as well. M I was educated for
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Speaker 1: Soft Sheen Carson for like ten years. I was an
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Speaker 1: artistic director with them as well. So I worked in
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Speaker 1: research and development with MAZONI Soft she helped develop that product.
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Speaker 1: So and I went around the country teaching stylists. So
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Speaker 1: I did that early in the early part of my
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Speaker 1: career and teaching them different haircutting techniques and how to
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Speaker 1: use the product properly. For Soft Sheen AMAZONI and uh,
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Speaker 1: I helped to create a lot of the ad ads
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Speaker 1: that you saw for MAZONI way Bo care Free Curls.
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Speaker 1: So I, you know, I was instrumental and uh you
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Speaker 1: know health and health and yeah, exactly help them to
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Speaker 1: uh to bring bring that into the forefront of the
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Speaker 1: African American heritage for for for our culture as far
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Speaker 1: as but the hair in in thirty five years, that
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Speaker 1: means you went through a lot of different you know,
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Speaker 1: the afro, the bridge, the soft sheen look that dominated.
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Speaker 1: So what's what style? Not the natural style that's the
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Speaker 1: dominant tone, even though you know people still getting perms
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Speaker 1: and getting their hair straight. What what what? What's happening
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Speaker 1: now there in the world of hair in the world here? Now?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the natural look. But you know, wigs
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Speaker 1: are the thing now. It's like, uh, what's that rapper
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Speaker 1: that I just got out of jail? Meek meek milk.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of complained about the wigs because
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Speaker 1: the women are in all these lace weeks. These guys
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Speaker 1: don't know that they have wigs on because they look
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Speaker 1: so real, you know. So you know when they get
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Speaker 1: him in the in the room, in the bedroom and
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Speaker 1: they start wanting their hands in their hair, and then
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Speaker 1: they start feeling this glue and all this stuff, and
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Speaker 1: you know, they think, oh my god, what is this.
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Speaker 1: So you know, it's like a lot of women wearing
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Speaker 1: wigs because they're very convenient and they look good and
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Speaker 1: make them sexy. What what made them? What made the transition?
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Speaker 1: Because my mom wore with how much happened? I do?
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Speaker 1: What happened? It? Um? You know, women have been wearing
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Speaker 1: lace wigs since the thirties, and I've been actually doing
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Speaker 1: lace weeks in the movie industry since the nineties early nineties.
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Speaker 1: And it kind of caught on after I think Tyra
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Speaker 1: Banks and be honest, kind of let the cat out
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Speaker 1: of the bag because their their hairstyles put laces wigs
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Speaker 1: on them and they looked incredible, and women want to know,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, a woman hair to looked like that
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Speaker 1: because it was blowing in the wind. You could see
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Speaker 1: scalp and it looked like it was going out of
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Speaker 1: this scalp. So they wanted that, and so it created
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Speaker 1: such a demand. So that's what people want now. And
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Speaker 1: because when you put a lace wig on and you
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Speaker 1: blue it on properly, it looks like it's going out
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Speaker 1: of your scale. Okay, a male so helping, would you
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Speaker 1: say the word blew it on? Well, you have to.
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Speaker 1: What they do. It comes with a very fine lace
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Speaker 1: that you can see through, and they take one hair
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Speaker 1: at a time and they when they do what you
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Speaker 1: call ventilate. If we ventilate the hair through that lace
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Speaker 1: so that it matches your skin tone, they died and
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Speaker 1: they died to look at your skin toe. So when you.
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Speaker 1: When we glue it, it's a clear glue and it
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Speaker 1: dries and it clear. It's clear and it and it's
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Speaker 1: like it looks like your skin. So when we when
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Speaker 1: we glue it to your like forehead, it looks like
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Speaker 1: it's hair growing out of your skin. So it's it
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Speaker 1: just mimics your skin and hair. So it looks like
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Speaker 1: like like you might have gotten hair. Well you don't
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Speaker 1: have it. If you don't have edges, you can you
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Speaker 1: can just have edges. Now, my next courtion will be
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Speaker 1: can you wear that? Usually it was designed to wear
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Speaker 1: it like put it on, take it off in the
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Speaker 1: movie industry, but with the commercial success of these wigs,
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Speaker 1: they've gotten so many different glues that you can wear
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Speaker 1: it for a week to two weeks without taking it off.
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Speaker 1: Now because they've made they've made better glues. They've got
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Speaker 1: adhesives that that doesn't damage your's your skin and your
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Speaker 1: hair and it doesn't you know, they've they've made a
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Speaker 1: made better goose surgical adhesives that will hold for like
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Speaker 1: two weeks, and you just take it off, you know,
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Speaker 1: go to the salon, have it removed, have your wig,
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Speaker 1: shampoo clean the wig, have it reglued and you set
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Speaker 1: for another two weeks. Well, tell us about your wig collection. Okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: Well you know my weird collection. What I did, I mean,
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Speaker 1: everybody's doing wigs, but you know, I wanted to do
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Speaker 1: wigs that were, um going to be custom, and um,
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Speaker 1: I like to do wigs that are custom hairline because
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Speaker 1: sometimes the hairline on on the wigs that manufacturers make
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Speaker 1: they don't match our hairlines. They're sometimes they're like really
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Speaker 1: straight hairlines and they don't look real. Uh, they don't
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Speaker 1: have widow speaks, they don't have the temple area is
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Speaker 1: not matching, and certain things that these little new wants.
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Speaker 1: It makes it not look real. And I I like,
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Speaker 1: I like hair to look real. And so a lot
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Speaker 1: of times what I do with some of my wigs is, um,
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Speaker 1: I will ventilate kinky hair around the edges. And what
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Speaker 1: I do is because you know, nobody's hair is bones straight,
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Speaker 1: especially I especial black women. You know, they got they
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Speaker 1: got edges and well it's baby hair or some of them,
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Speaker 1: but some of them got the edges. Now you know,
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Speaker 1: some of these women got edges, they got they got
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Speaker 1: that who makes you dunct you stuff? You know it's like,
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Speaker 1: so you know, you gotta you gotta do with that.
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Speaker 1: And they have a lot of kinky textures. You know,
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Speaker 1: some of these women got these kinky textures and they
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Speaker 1: want to put this European hairy and it doesn't match.
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Speaker 1: So I like using different textures. I like using the
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Speaker 1: kinky textures, like put kicky edges in. And what I
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Speaker 1: do is I put them in, but I used the
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Speaker 1: pressing home to press them so it makes it look real.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's that's where I do. That almost
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Speaker 1: feels custom. It is custom. So when you get those
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Speaker 1: kinky edges and you put that present home on, you
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Speaker 1: know it's gonna look like, okay, it looks like your edges.
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Speaker 1: You ain't gotta do the baby had okay, because it's
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Speaker 1: gonna look like your real edges. And if you started
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Speaker 1: the perspie them things gonna they're gonna start kicking up,
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Speaker 1: like you know, it really takes it to another level.
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Speaker 1: It makes it look more authentic. Now, that's that's a vision, okay.
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Speaker 1: Now when when when you ever you start a vision,
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Speaker 1: people always question, why are you gonna do that? Just
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Speaker 1: what everybody else is doing? How did you walk through that? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, it's just like I was doing. I've
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Speaker 1: been doing weeks in movies. Um, and I did um
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Speaker 1: this show with to Sheina Arnold and she was she
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Speaker 1: was wearing a wig and the wig was so straight.
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Speaker 1: I said, now I need this this this this week.
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Speaker 1: Don't like it's going out of her scalp. So I Uh,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to skinky hair. And I ventilated some skinky
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Speaker 1: hair around her edges and then I started to pressing
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Speaker 1: and it made it look more real and I started
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Speaker 1: to use that. Uh, it was a show, Um, it
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Speaker 1: was my showtime. What was the show I did with her?
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Speaker 1: It was? What was that show? It was a Stars
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Speaker 1: Survivor's Remorse. I did that with your show Survive Morris.
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Speaker 1: I did that were and so she wore the wig
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Speaker 1: and uh, basically I wanted it to look like her hair.
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Speaker 1: And I was a fan of that show. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: you saw it. I saw it. So what I did,
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Speaker 1: and she was always throwing, so I just wanted I
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Speaker 1: didn't want it to look like a wig. And I
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Speaker 1: did that for Erica ashe as well. So she had
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Speaker 1: a wig on too. It was a blond wig. So
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Speaker 1: I did that for her too. So just so that
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want them to look like the
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Speaker 1: regular Thank you, thank you very much, because I especially Eric,
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Speaker 1: you know, I thought she just died her hair. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that was a wig. Thank you. And then I
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Speaker 1: also I did did a wig on epayth The Murkerson
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Speaker 1: when I did a Lack of One of Blues. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that movie for HBO. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I did that, and that's what movie I've nominated for
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Speaker 1: an M four. And I wanted the texture to look
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Speaker 1: like it was back in the day. I didn't wanted
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Speaker 1: to look like a wig. I wanted to look like natural,
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Speaker 1: you know, black woman's hair. So the texture that I
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Speaker 1: used for that wig, and then the hair that I used,
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Speaker 1: you know, it looked like it was pressed hair. So
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Speaker 1: so we were talking about wigs. Okay, and you have
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Speaker 1: a you have a location right that the wig is online? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have. I have a website. It's called the Renowned
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Speaker 1: Weird Collection dot com. That's that's perfect for you, now,
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Speaker 1: weird Collection. I would think of no other name now.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you where I got that name from. Actually,
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Speaker 1: my friend Vincent that's sitting over there. He started working
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Speaker 1: me back when the first got out of beauty school,
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Speaker 1: like maybe twenty five years ago when I had my
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Speaker 1: son on Lindbergh. He was he was one of my
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Speaker 1: first workers. He had just got out of Beuty school.
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Speaker 1: So he worked with me. So I used to they
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Speaker 1: used come to work and used I was very adamant
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Speaker 1: about them coming on time. Where ties right? And so
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Speaker 1: he started calling me. He called me the now way
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Speaker 1: back then, and he just kept calling me to now
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Speaker 1: every time you see me, the renown, the renown, the renown.
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Speaker 1: So this year, I said, last year, I said, I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call myself the renown because he calls me
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Speaker 1: that all the time. So I said, I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: ahead and and then on my name because that's what
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Speaker 1: I loves me and I love it. It's perfect because
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Speaker 1: the thing about it, you know why it fits because
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Speaker 1: you've heard it so long. It's part of your culture. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's your mentality, you know what. That's what he's spoke
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Speaker 1: into my life. He spoke into my life. He kept
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Speaker 1: calling me the renown, the renown, the renown. So I said, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and receive that and either renow.
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Speaker 1: We know the interesting thing about I've always tell people
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Speaker 1: you gotta have people around who champing you, and that
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Speaker 1: that's something I had to discover, because you you gotta
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Speaker 1: have people to tell you how great you are. You
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Speaker 1: have two people tell you how special you are. That
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Speaker 1: you're doing is differently and that's all he was doing exactly.
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Speaker 1: He was speaking. You decided to listen. He was speaking
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Speaker 1: prophetic words in stop stop stop exactly. He was speaking
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Speaker 1: prophetically in my life and I didn't know it. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, come on, That's why. That's why I mean
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Speaker 1: to speak prophetically over over our children, over everybody we meet.
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Speaker 1: You want to speak prophetic things over them. Speak And
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Speaker 1: it's important because one of the reason I wanted to
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Speaker 1: because to me, you're a legend, okay, and sometimes sometimes
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Speaker 1: when you when you're doing things and the craft that's
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, people just assume, Like I said, here,
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Speaker 1: I'm watching your work on Survivors Remors, not knowing it
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Speaker 1: and thinking that and then now now not being able
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Speaker 1: to communicate with it and then break down the skill set.
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Speaker 1: Just tie to it. You're not just throwing wigs on
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Speaker 1: ladies hair man's hair. Character. You're three characters and with
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Speaker 1: these these these things can create a different social change
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Speaker 1: for you. When we come back and want to talk
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Speaker 1: more about the location that you have in Atlanta. But
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the movie Vice. Okay, we
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Speaker 1: can talk about that as well. We'll be back in
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Speaker 1: a few minutes. The movie vices right, White White did
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Speaker 1: Tyler Perry He's playing Poland power. Let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: right back. I just Rashan McDonald. You're back on any
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Speaker 1: making conversation. Uh my gases. Charles Gregory, if you don't know,
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Speaker 1: the renown Charles Gregory, thirty or five years in the business,
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Speaker 1: launched the renowned Weird Collection with wik styles for women
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Speaker 1: and men. The wigs are top notch, made with the
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Speaker 1: best human hair and very fine lace which is used
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Speaker 1: for film and TV to be undetectable under the scrutiny
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Speaker 1: of today's high definition camera. The renowned Weird Collection is
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Speaker 1: available online and also at his beauty bar in Atlanta. Georgers,
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Speaker 1: please welcome back to the show, Charles Gregory. His beauty
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Speaker 1: bar is called Charles Gregory Blow Dry and Beauty Ball.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks. We got talking about sit next to
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Speaker 1: your celebrity to start talking about these movies that you
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Speaker 1: you were talking about before we left. Yeah, let's talk
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Speaker 1: about this movie and the movie always talking about right
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Speaker 1: now as Vice. Uh, that's the movie that's up for
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Speaker 1: Oscars now, several oscars. It's been nominated for, including hair
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Speaker 1: and makeup, which I did work on. Um, I'm not
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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have my name called for the nomination,
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Speaker 1: but I did work on the team, work with the team.
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Speaker 1: I did Tyler Perry on that movie. He played Colin Powell,
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Speaker 1: and if you saw the movie, you would see that
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Speaker 1: he has hair like Colon Power, but you know Tyler
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Speaker 1: and hamming hair. So I helped design that wig that
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Speaker 1: he's wearing that making it like Colon Powers. It's it's
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Speaker 1: a full lace wig. It's it's lace all over. How
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Speaker 1: did how was you invited to the project and how
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Speaker 1: did you sit down? Did you talk to Tyler? Did
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Speaker 1: you go back and forth on what? Okay? Look, the
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Speaker 1: way I was invited to the project is that the
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Speaker 1: wig maker that I normally use in l a name
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Speaker 1: Bob crutch Mayer. He Um. He called me said Charles,
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Speaker 1: I have a job here and I need you to
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Speaker 1: help me with it. He usually consults me in a
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Speaker 1: lot of wigs because he you know, I'm a black
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Speaker 1: expert in during black wigs, and so I said, okay,
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Speaker 1: he said with for Tyler Peer. I said, oh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I worked with Tyler all the time. I do my
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Speaker 1: DA all that, you know, So I've worked with Tyler
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Speaker 1: a lot, so I hadn't worked with him in a while.
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Speaker 1: So and then he put me onto Tyler's makeup artist
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Speaker 1: which does all the specially effects, which his name is
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Speaker 1: West Wesley, and he was gonna do special effects for
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Speaker 1: him to you know, make him look like Colon. And
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Speaker 1: when I got in touch with West, you know West
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Speaker 1: get sent me some pictures and stuff and we collaborated.
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Speaker 1: And then you told Tyler that I was going to
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Speaker 1: be on the project. And I said, oh, yeah, Chas, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because he knows me, because you know, we've we've been
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Speaker 1: been together maybe fifteen years, and I've done all a
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Speaker 1: lot of his shows House of Pain. I've been department
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Speaker 1: here on a lot of his movies, his TV shows stuff.
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Speaker 1: So you know, we maybe we thought there this is there.
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Speaker 1: So um when I did when I designed the wig,
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Speaker 1: I took the pictures and I saw the week so
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Speaker 1: I had Bob to make the wig with white hair.
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Speaker 1: So he made it poor white because it was like
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Speaker 1: salt and pepper. So I wanted to control. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to control the amount of salt and pepper that I got,
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Speaker 1: So instead of having him do gray and black hair,
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Speaker 1: I wanted him to do white hair so that I
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Speaker 1: could artistically color it to make it look like I wanted,
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Speaker 1: like to match Colon power. So I that's how how
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Speaker 1: I came up with the salt and pepper. So I
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Speaker 1: colored the wig so that it's strategically looked just like
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Speaker 1: Colon's hair as far as where he grayed and where
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Speaker 1: he was black and when he wasn't. So you're an artist,
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Speaker 1: I'm an artist. I'm an artist. Yeah, And actually I
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Speaker 1: studied art as it relates to hair, hairstunding, and structure,
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Speaker 1: so I do teach. I have a class that I
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Speaker 1: teach on on hair strung hair, hair design as it
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Speaker 1: relates to art, and teach your art principles on how
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Speaker 1: to do hair design as it relates to different art
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Speaker 1: principles like repetition, alternation, um a, progression, all these things
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Speaker 1: that you need to be an artist, and I teach
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Speaker 1: you how to how to take the medium of hair
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Speaker 1: and create artistically beautiful hair designs. So when you when
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Speaker 1: I look at you and I look at that, there's
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Speaker 1: a certain I'm talking to a professor, Okay, I'm talking
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Speaker 1: to an individual that just competantly talks about it. And
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Speaker 1: so when one comes into your beauty ball, what is
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Speaker 1: the expectation of a client. The expectation is just to
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Speaker 1: leave more fabulous than you came in, and to leave
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Speaker 1: with a smile on your face, and just to leave
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Speaker 1: feeling uh motivated, and just to feel uplifted. Because when
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Speaker 1: when women are beautiful, they feel they have self confidence.
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Speaker 1: I give them self confidence in themself and I make
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Speaker 1: them feel better. And that's that's that's that's, that's what
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Speaker 1: part I love about my job is making you looking
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Speaker 1: at mirror and I want to see a big smile
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Speaker 1: on your face. And when you walk to the redgist,
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Speaker 1: I want to see a bigger smile when I give
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Speaker 1: you my pride, okay, and you'd be having to bay okay,
17:29
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be happy because what I've given you.
17:31
Speaker 1: So that the un in Atlanta, why why did you
17:33
Speaker 1: choose that location? And as a as a you know,
17:36
Speaker 1: you had all this just experience, you had this reputation.
17:39
Speaker 1: Why did you trust yourself enough to be an entrepreneur
17:42
Speaker 1: and a brick and mortar. Well, you know what, my
17:46
Speaker 1: mother owned a beauty salon in Charlotte, and I came
17:48
Speaker 1: up in the salon, you know, when I was as
17:51
Speaker 1: far as I can remember, She's always had a salon
17:52
Speaker 1: and I just I just had the entrepreneur spirit through
17:57
Speaker 1: uh heredity. Right. So I've always been I've always sold something.
18:03
Speaker 1: Even as a child. I grew up selling see selling
18:06
Speaker 1: candy selling uh Mary Kay. As a teenagers selling, I
18:10
Speaker 1: even so try to sell wigs. I worked in the
18:13
Speaker 1: wig shop when I was when I was a teenager,
18:15
Speaker 1: like fifteen, I would I would cut afros in the
18:17
Speaker 1: team in a wig shop. Just I worked in his
18:20
Speaker 1: Korean wickshop downtown Charlotte. I would cut afros. This lead.
18:23
Speaker 1: I would go by there every day and watch this
18:25
Speaker 1: koreer and cut these afros. And she she got time.
18:27
Speaker 1: She said, let me show you how to cut, to cut,
18:30
Speaker 1: and she gave me a job. And then then she
18:31
Speaker 1: showed me how to do shin yawns and taught me
18:33
Speaker 1: how to do stuff before I even got out of
18:34
Speaker 1: high school. So it's just been, uh, it's just been
18:37
Speaker 1: in me to do that. When did you start trusting yourself?
18:41
Speaker 1: Because the reason I say that is that I remember
18:45
Speaker 1: that I can't cut anybody's hair. That's I mean, that's
18:48
Speaker 1: a nerve racking experience. You know, people think that's simple.
18:51
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna sit in your chair and then you have
18:54
Speaker 1: a razor and you have to cut their hair. Why
18:56
Speaker 1: don't you start trusting yours? You know, I always believe
18:59
Speaker 1: I could do it, and I always tried to do it,
19:01
Speaker 1: but I never trusted myself until I went to beauty
19:04
Speaker 1: school and really got all of the fundamentals. And then
19:08
Speaker 1: once I got that, it's like I took off, I
19:11
Speaker 1: like perfected everything I was. I was already doing hair
19:14
Speaker 1: and straightening hair at home and doing this. But once
19:17
Speaker 1: I learned how to do the cutting and the styling
19:20
Speaker 1: and the blow drying and the and the chemical stuff.
19:23
Speaker 1: Once I learned that, you know, the sky was the limit.
19:25
Speaker 1: So what do the mistakes that the young stylers do
19:28
Speaker 1: or people get in the business. What are the mistakes
19:29
Speaker 1: the mistakes they do is they stop educating themselves. They
19:34
Speaker 1: stopped learning, They stopped They think once they get out
19:38
Speaker 1: of beauty school they know it all. They think they
19:40
Speaker 1: stopped learning, and what happens is they get left behind.
19:43
Speaker 1: They left behind. In technology, things are different now, you know,
19:47
Speaker 1: people I used to use the oven and stuff that.
19:49
Speaker 1: You know, the ovens is past, say now you gotta
19:52
Speaker 1: use the ceramic. Guys, you know, you gotta change with
19:55
Speaker 1: the times. If you don't change, you're gonna be behind.
19:57
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta stay educated, You gotta keep going
19:59
Speaker 1: to class. You gotta remember that there's always somebody out there.
20:02
Speaker 1: They can do stuff better than you. It's always somebody
20:04
Speaker 1: you can learn from, learn from from younger people. You know,
20:07
Speaker 1: I don't think you know it all. You know, I
20:09
Speaker 1: learned a lot on YouTube, YouTube university a lot. You know.
20:12
Speaker 1: When I don't know something, streak to YouTube, you know,
20:15
Speaker 1: and I I see what's happening. And you have to
20:18
Speaker 1: praise young young stylus because they are the future. And
20:23
Speaker 1: you know, there's some bad styles coming up, you know,
20:26
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what they They work in circles
20:29
Speaker 1: around these older hair styles. If you ain't keeping up
20:31
Speaker 1: these young young styles, you're gonna be left absolutely. And
20:34
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying is that you gotta keep learning.
20:36
Speaker 1: Because I'm talking to a legend the right now, and
20:39
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep throwing it out and not joking. That's
20:41
Speaker 1: that's the truth, exactly, that's the truth. And because of
20:44
Speaker 1: the fact that you're telling me, Sean, I'm still I'm
20:48
Speaker 1: still crafting, I'm still out there. You're not gonna wake
20:51
Speaker 1: up and see me behind. I graduated musical nineteen eighty.
20:55
Speaker 1: I'm still to me, I'm relevant in the hair in
20:59
Speaker 1: this Yes you are. You know I'm not. I'm not
21:01
Speaker 1: doing the same most styles idea in the nineties and
21:03
Speaker 1: then in two thousand, I'm doing what's current in present.
21:07
Speaker 1: So I got I got young girls coming to me.
21:09
Speaker 1: I got I ain't got all these old women's coming
21:13
Speaker 1: half the whole way I had. They're gone. They're gone,
21:15
Speaker 1: or they got nurses and all this stuff, you know,
21:18
Speaker 1: the women I started with, you know, So I got
21:20
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna have young clients. You know, I
21:23
Speaker 1: have still have a lot of my old clients, they're
21:25
Speaker 1: still with me. But I have a lot of young
21:28
Speaker 1: girls coming in college. That's the Keyenager, that's the key,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, because they're coming to me. That's the key.
21:32
Speaker 1: You gotta keep exactly younger, keep your audience ten years exactly,
21:36
Speaker 1: bring another set of tea exactly, the mamos and the
21:40
Speaker 1: dollars and the grandkids. That's that's your career. When I
21:43
Speaker 1: said thirty five years exactly, And that's that's important. And
21:46
Speaker 1: some people are working around me. To have a lot
21:48
Speaker 1: of lot of young people working with me. I trained
21:50
Speaker 1: them and I've watched them and they trained me. I
21:52
Speaker 1: learned from them, they learned from me. I'm about to
21:54
Speaker 1: ask you that it's important that you say that publicly.
21:58
Speaker 1: You're willing the lesson. Oh yeah, you hit you too,
22:00
Speaker 1: that you're willing to share. And you wouldn't understand that
22:02
Speaker 1: your skill said it's a blessing that you mentor talk
22:06
Speaker 1: about the mentoring part, well, you know what. It's the
22:08
Speaker 1: more you give, the more you get back. So you
22:10
Speaker 1: have to give. You have to give back because that's
22:14
Speaker 1: a part of who you are. And you have to
22:16
Speaker 1: leave a legacy. You know what's your legacy. My legacy
22:20
Speaker 1: is to make I want every style is when you
22:23
Speaker 1: when you get into this business, I want you to
22:25
Speaker 1: be the best that you can be. When you come
22:27
Speaker 1: around me and you're in my salon and you work
22:29
Speaker 1: with me, I'm gonna badge you. You you're gonna be
22:31
Speaker 1: the best of me. You're gonna either hate me, you're
22:33
Speaker 1: gonna love me, because I'm gonna badger you. Make sure
22:35
Speaker 1: you get it. You don't get it, then you're gonna be.
22:37
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be. You're gonna either love me
22:40
Speaker 1: or repel me, because I'm gonna make sure you get
22:42
Speaker 1: it right. You be successful. And that's that's important because
22:45
Speaker 1: of the fact that when I look at you know,
22:48
Speaker 1: my life, and I look at people feel I'm successful.
22:51
Speaker 1: It really goes back to who you're helping. It really
22:54
Speaker 1: goes back to what's your legacy, because what you're remembered
22:56
Speaker 1: by because of the fact that in the end, why
22:58
Speaker 1: are you taking it to your raide exactly? So? How
23:01
Speaker 1: how how is the transition to technology playing such a
23:04
Speaker 1: major role in what you're doing now? I know much
23:06
Speaker 1: of YouTube played a great role. You know. I tell
23:10
Speaker 1: you I was one of the first salons in Atlanta
23:12
Speaker 1: to be computerized. I was computerized back in the nineties.
23:15
Speaker 1: I had a database, I had I had I had
23:18
Speaker 1: a Mac back in the nineties. And they can tell
23:21
Speaker 1: you I had receptions like in the nineties, I had
23:24
Speaker 1: a receptance with a computer. Most black people and they
23:27
Speaker 1: didn't have a computer. And I have kept up with technology.
23:31
Speaker 1: I learned how to program a MS DOS. I taught
23:34
Speaker 1: myself how to do a computers. I w I can,
23:37
Speaker 1: I can get a book and I can teach myself anything.
23:39
Speaker 1: I taught myself how to speak French. I taught myself
23:42
Speaker 1: how to I've recorded a CD. I taught myself. I
23:45
Speaker 1: set up a studio and talked myself MIDI. I taught
23:48
Speaker 1: myself just by reading. I caught myself how to program
23:51
Speaker 1: ms DOS. I do my own websites. I do my
23:54
Speaker 1: own s c O. Congratulations because I once I read,
23:57
Speaker 1: I understand I can do it. You know, I think
23:59
Speaker 1: the just gave me so many talents. I used every
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