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Porthus - The First Cookbook Author · The Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted

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Hey, so thank you for joining us again this week.
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We are still in the prologues of Inevitable Ruin.
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So this chapter is a Porthus point of view chapter
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and it shows the interactions between him and
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his lawyer while he's negotiating his deal to
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exit the dungeon. And then next week we will
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be on book seven, chapter one. I didn't know
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that a book. could have so many prologue chapters
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is that normal for a book to have four prologue
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chapters if it's a pretty established series
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it can be so that does make sense but i think
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it was maybe in the gate of the feral gods where
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i was just like how many epilogues does this
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book have and i was like are these epilogues
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or like is this just plot i'm gonna go on the
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side of plot. We wanted to start out by giving
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an introduction of who is Porthis. So we first
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learn about Porthis in Dungeon Anarchist cookbook
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when Carl receives it. And Porthis was the very
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first person to ever receive the cookbook during
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the 15th season of The Crawl on the 9th floor.
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So he's the first person to get it, but it's
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the second edition. What was in the first edition?
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Was it just AI generated? Yes. So that's not
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necessarily clarified, but it does appear that
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the information in the very first edition was
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AI generated by Porthos' admission in his cookbook
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entries that we get throughout the series. It
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was pretty basic spells and recipes that weren't
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very useful that he added upon. And then those
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continue to be added upon by every future recipient
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of the cookbook. So. When Porfus was in the crawl,
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this was really before things like the Apothecary
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or like the Open Intellect Pacifist Network existed.
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I would think that one of those groups kind of
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threw together some basic information and found
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a way to send it through a gift or something
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like that. So it's interesting to think about,
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but I'm not sure if those groups were even organized
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enough to plant something like that in the dungeon.
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Maybe it was a residual. I mean, I think that
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it was generated by the dungeon. I think it was
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something that was born in the dungeon. Yeah,
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I'm just not sure what kind of motivations an
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AI would have for starting something like that.
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Whereas if there was groups that were anti -crawl,
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it would make a lot of sense for them. It would.
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And as far as we are aware in our research, it
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is not clarified exactly how the cookbook originally
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came into existence. So continuing on with...
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who Porthas is. We learn a little bit more about
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him throughout the series. His first actual entry
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that we read from the cookbook is in Gate of
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the Feral Gods. And he talks about how he doesn't
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feel like he's added enough to the cookbook.
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Like if his contributions are ever actually going
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to be useful and if there's going to be enough
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information to be useful in future generations
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after more people add to it. And I just think
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it's interesting or important to call out that.
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Pretty much everything we hear about Porthas
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throughout the books is that he seems to have
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a lot of self -doubt of whether what he's done
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and what he's contributed is actually going to
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make any kind of difference. And I think that's
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important to his character and his motivations
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for why he does everything he does after his
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exit from the dungeon. I mean, we see that start
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in this chapter where he keeps talking about
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how Minerva told him to go. but he should have
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gone back for her anyways. And he has a lot of
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self -doubt and second -guessing, and that's
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what he's obsessing over in most of this chapter.
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So I would say that that is a core part of his
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personality. It is interesting to me that he
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felt so much guilt about not contributing more
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when no one had ever contributed before. He was
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the first person who had it, and he still didn't
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feel like he was doing enough was interesting
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to me. I think that is just a... core of the
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kind of person that he is that he wants to do
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more to help people he feels I would say maybe
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even a bit of a hero complex where he he wants
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to do everything he can to help others and he
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feels inadequate and no matter what his efforts
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amount to I'm sure that's part of what attracted
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him to Carl is that Carl also has a hero complex
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and like does attract like so I'm sure that's
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not coincidence right And that actually leads
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into the next point is Porthis is the CEO and
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president of outreach operations for the pacifist
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network. And he is a driving factor behind why
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they sponsored Carl on the fifth floor, supported
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him. You know, they gave him the Toraline, which
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was what do you call it? Oh, the biggest MacGuffin
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that ever existed. Right. We should define what
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a MacGuffin is. So Merriam -Webster says that
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a MacGuffin is a plot device in a story that
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serves to motivate characters and drive the plot
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forward, but is ultimately unimportant to the
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audience or the story's resolution itself. So
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it was definitely that for a while and then became
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super important. We already said this, but to
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clarify, Porthis is the founder of the Open Intellect
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Pacifist Network, and that is a very big... piece
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of what this chapter amounts to. I also wanted
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to call out the first actual cookbook entry that
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we hear from his perspective in the series, which
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is from Gate of the Feral Gods, where he says,
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if I survive my 100 seasons of servitude, I will
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do everything I can to end this horror. I don't
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know if I have the strength, but I will do my
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best to not be broken. This will be my last entry
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in this book, but I am not yet done with the
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enemy. As long as I have breath, I will fight.
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And one thing I wanted to call out here is the
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I will do my best to not be broken. I don't know
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if that reminds you of anything, but it sounds
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a lot like you will not break me. And I think
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that's a strong parallel of what drew Porthis
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to Carl and shows that they do have a lot in
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common. What did you think? I think my question
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is, did his lawyer let him go into the bathroom
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to write this? Right. Because he obviously wrote
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this after he made his deal because his deal
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was 100 seasons as a game guide. So, yeah. Did
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he get the opportunity to make one last entry
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after he took his deal? I mean, I guess they
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say that you have a few minutes to sort through
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your inventory. Maybe he was like, yeah, bathroom
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first. Maybe he has IBS like Carl. So Carl always
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goes into the bathroom to read the cookbook,
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but I think you can make entries into it without
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having it physically in your hands. Because like
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when Carl gets it, AI tells him that he now has
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like a special scratch pad where he can write
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stuff into. So maybe you only need to physically
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hold it if you're reading it. Now that we've
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given a bit of background, we're going to start
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going chronologically through this chapter and
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discussing it. And I think narratively, this
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chapter exists to give us some background on
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Porthus and also to give a perspective of how
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traumatic it is when you're negotiating these
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deals and how you have just gotten pulled out
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of a terrible situation where you may be watched.
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Multiple people you know die. And now you have
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to negotiate, you know, what the rest of your
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life is going to look like and how maybe you
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are not in a appropriate headspace to be doing
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that at this time. Yeah. It starts out with him
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saying his arm keeps shaking. He's trying to
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get his arm to stop shaking. And that's repeated
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several times throughout this chapter. Yeah,
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because his lawyer is trying to talk to him about
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what deals are potentially on the table, but
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he cannot think about anything except for his
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friend. We see here right at the very beginning,
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it basically noted that this lawyer does not
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seem to give a shit about Porthis. He won't even
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look at him. And then later in the chapter that
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their eyes met for the briefest moment. There
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was nothing there. No sympathy. Nothing. Don't
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judge him for bringing snacks, though. I mean,
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man's got to eat, right? I mean, you also don't
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know how many of these meetings he's doing in
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a day. Well, I don't think there's very many
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people that survived this floor. It is true.
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So, Quasar is actually a good lawyer? What makes
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Quasar a good lawyer? The fact that he actually
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cares. He is very invested in Carl's interests.
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He is always suggesting new ideas to him. In
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the next chapter, he's like, well, you know,
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you've been gone, but like I've been doing everything
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I can while I wasn't able to contact you. Whereas
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I just don't see this lawyer proactively doing
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anything for any crawlers. No, he is here to
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relay information and provide the slightest amount
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of guidance with absolutely zero sympathy whatsoever.
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And I just love Quasar coming into every situation
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like. Hey, you guys need to stop what you're
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doing. Stop talking to my client without me being
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present. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm going
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to ram my blah up your blah. Anyways, this isn't
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an episode about how awesome Quasar is, but come
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on. Yeah, so we talked about Minerva earlier,
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but it is interesting that that is someone that
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Porphos met in the dungeon and he didn't know
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beforehand and he still had such a strong emotional
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attachment to her, which, you know, we would
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say that Carl feels that way about Amani or Katia.
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that they are like family to him, even though
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he didn't know them before the dungeon. But this
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season that Carl is in actually does have a very
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high survival rate. Records, like tens of thousands
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higher. Yeah, so it is interesting to point out
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that there are still pairings of people who came
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into the dungeon together and are still together,
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like Donut and Carl, Amani and Ellie, Li Jun
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and Zhang. So that is an interesting thing to
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think about as far as... Corphos was so traumatized
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that he didn't know what was going to happen
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to someone that he didn't even know before he
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came into the dungeon. And, you know, how much
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worse it would be if it was someone you'd known
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your entire life. Right. And he comes into this
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meeting with his lawyer to make this deal. And
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he just keeps asking if he can find out what
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happened to her. And I think that, you know,
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like they were trying to escape the floor and
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they were crawling up the back of this giant
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monster and her foot is trapped or whatever.
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He leaves and goes through. And I think the way
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that he's reacting and behaving in this chapter
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is similar to how Carl would react. Say it was
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Carl and Katya was right behind him and he doesn't
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know if she made it through. He's going to be
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freaking the fuck out. Well, and what's messed
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up is he might never know. So it's basically
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like the best analogy that I can have is when
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I was a teenager, if you missed an episode of
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a TV show that you were really into. Your best
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chance of finding out what happened was you'd
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kind of have to call around and see if anyone
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else had watched it and would tell you about
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it. So this is kind of the same situation where
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as Porphos goes into being a game guide, he just
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has to ask other people, hey, do you remember
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this person? Do you know what happened to her?
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And especially with the way that the deals work.
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You might be on a completely different timeline
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than everyone you've ever known where you might
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be in the dungeon longer than them. And who knows
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if you'll ever actually meet up. Milk is an example
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of someone who is in the dungeon for an insanely
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long time. And nobody ever interacted with her
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and nobody knew what happened to her. We find
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out if Porthos ever knows what happens to Minerva
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or runs into her. We don't find out. But I think
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the way that he would find out is like Mordecai.
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for example, as a game guide, would probably
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be pretty up on what happened in the last season.
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So I think Corphos would go into the dungeon
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as a game guide and he would need to connect
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with the other game guides. And it does seem
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like there is some community there. So for example,
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Mistress Tianeth is able to come into the guild
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hall and is able to spend time with them. So
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the game guides can interact with each other
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and that would be a way that they would share
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information. Right, but I mean like after he
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gets out of the dungeon, does Porthos ever learn
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or figure out what happened to Minerva? I don't
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know. I guess we don't know. I mean, I would
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think once you got out of the dungeon, maybe
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you could get old episodes of The Crawl and maybe
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you could find out, but that's really up for
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interpretation. Is it like Netflix and you can
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just go and pull old seasons on demand? I mean,
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I am pretty confident that they have that ability.
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The next point that they get to is Porthos' lawyer
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starts giving him his deals. The first deal is
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crap, even by the lawyer's own admission. He's
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a floor 15 undead, low chance of survival, but
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he'll be out fast in like 20 seasons or something.
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And it comes with a small stipend, no guaranteed
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housing. And his lawyer specifically says, former
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crawlers always find a place to live. Almost
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always. And it's interesting to note that that
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was going on so far back, you know, I think thousands
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of years ago, basically. But Porthis changes
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this through creating the open intellect pacifist
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network. He says, no, crawlers are going to have
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a place to live. And that's a big piece of what
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that network does. And that's really powerful
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as to the impact that he makes. Next part of
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the chapter that we're talking about right after
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he's given his first deal offer. is he asks like
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can I just leave like I need to know what happens
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to Minerva and the lawyer basically tells him
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sure you can leave but the outreach guilds on
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the 11th floor aren't going to open up until
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the end of the floor so if he makes it that far
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and goes to an outreach guild with like no chance
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of getting further and actually completing the
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floor and getting through a door that his offers
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aren't going to be nearly as good yeah definitely
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and I think In a lot of scenarios, you're looking
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at something like maybe there's no chance of
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survival, but maybe you and one of the people
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you're with can't survive. And so you would take
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a not very favorable deal just to avoid that
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situation. Right. Like kind of what happened
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or what was possibly going to happen in Eye of
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the Bedlam Bride, where there was three people
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and only two of them had a key. Maybe there was
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an outreach guild they could have gone to on
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a different floor, different scenario. And they're
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like, hey, we all want to get out. Let's all
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take shitty deals because we don't want to make
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this terrible decision. Yeah, definitely. And
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we will definitely talk about more at the end
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of this book in, I don't know, six months. But
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I think that Carl and Donut got offered a really
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good deal and that they got offered a deal to
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stay together. And that seems so rare. We haven't
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heard of any other options of that. That was
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honestly a sweetheart deal. But I also think
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it was the AI messing with Carl because it was
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such a good, obvious deal that he was never going
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to take. Does the AI come up with the deals?
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Actually, I don't know who comes up with the
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deals. That's a good question. I don't think
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we know the answer. I've always thought it was
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the AI. That's just kind of been my back of the
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head assumption. But you're right that I don't
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really have any book passages to support that.
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I don't either. Not offhand. Maybe one of you
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do. Let us know. But the reason that I think
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the AI is involved in making the deals is they
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all seem a little ironic. And some of the deals
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that Porphos got offered seemed like things that
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he would never possibly accept because they were
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personally insulting to him. Right. So like he
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was offered a deal as a hunter attendant and
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he was like, there's no way I would freaking
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do that. The hunters killed all of the NPCs on
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that floor. like why would i want to do that
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and his lawyer tells him oh it's pretty safe
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but it's like no they killed everyone and the
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lawyer says only the ones they could find come
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on i mean you also don't know are the hunters
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going to get sick of their attendant or you know
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upset with them and go murder bot on them sure
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it's safe right so yeah if you're as long as
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you your attendant does everything you want and
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you're perfectly happy with them I wanted to
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go back to Bree saying that, you know, she felt
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like it was a really good deal. And it was a
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very good deal that Jonah and Carl were offered
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to stay together and take over Chaco's role on
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the prize wheel. And when Bree read their deal
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and before I had even gotten to that point, she
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was like, they were given a really good deal.
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I think they should have taken it. And I just
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told her it doesn't matter what kind of awesome
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deal they were given. There's no shot in the
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world that Carl was ever going to take a deal,
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no matter what it was. That is absolutely antithetical
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to everything. Well, and I think that kind of
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shows that Carl is an antihero because I think
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he wants to believe for himself that his love
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for Donut is always his first purpose and that
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he's making all the decisions with her best interest
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in mind. But that's not true. Yeah, I don't think
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he's. He's not always doing that. Like she has
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a very high priority to him, but he definitely
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makes a lot of decisions that are pretty risky
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and put her life and other people's lives in
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danger. I think, what do they call it? Carling
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it up? Definitely. Don't carl it up, Carl. But
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yeah, I think that his version of himself that
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he believes isn't always true. Right. And I think
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we see that with Porthos as well. Can you elaborate
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on that? Yeah, I can definitely elaborate on
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that. So we learn this later in the book that
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Porthis is working with the apothecary and has
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some kind of secret plan going on with them.
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We learn this in a chapter about Rosetta and
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a conversation she's having with Porthis. And
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I think that he does have everyone's best interests
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in mind to an extent, but he also has his own
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motives. And she's very doubtful of the apothecary
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and what their goals are. And she doesn't trust
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the apothecary. But like Carl, he's like, no,
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you just have to trust me. You have to trust
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my intuition and believe in me. And ultimately
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Rosetta does believe in him and trust him. And
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I think that we see that a lot with Carl as well,
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that they're like, no, this is freaking crazy.
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Like this is unhinged, but we trust you. Editor's
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note here, the chapter that we're referencing
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is titled Rosetta and this inevitable ruin. It's
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between chapter 68 and chapter 69. So I just
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wanted to talk a little bit about the temp floor
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that Porphos had just exited. And I'm going to
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read a quote here. So the temp had been a nightmare,
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a world where every physical, non -natural object
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had sapience. Some could speak, all were psychotic.
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A world where if one object consumed another,
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it grew in power. By the end, there had been
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behemoths roaming the barren floor, all searching
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for one last morsel, all wanting to get bigger.
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So, assuming that this is kind of like Cuba,
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where you're just dealing with the real world,
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it's just a dungeon version, there are so many
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objects to interact with. And if they're all
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psychotic, that is going to be super stressful
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and a lot to deal with. Right. Like, you're just
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like, I need to open this door. And you go to
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grab the doorknob and it's like, hey, buddy,
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get your hands off me. I'll bite your arm off.
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And then the door is also screaming at you and
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trying to do stuff. And like everywhere you go,
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everything except for the rocks and the trees
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and the grass and the ground has its own agenda
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and is psychotic. that would do to you. No, I
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mean, it sounds like a sensory nightmare and
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that is the biggest understatement on the planet.
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Yeah, and I mean, aside from the stressful exit
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from the floor and not knowing what happened
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to his friend, like, I don't know if any of the
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other floors that we've seen in the series with
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Carl and Donut and everyone was as terrible as
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this one sounds. No, this sounds like the worst
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possible scenario to me. Yeah, like it's really
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hard to think about how unnerving that would
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be. And like, so even if you're looting this
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stuff, you're still looting like sapient psychotic
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items. Is everything that the mobs drop also
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sapient and psychotic? Like, that just sounds
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terrible. Well, and I wonder, so in the Cuba
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level, they did have the announcement that it's
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going to be in the next chapter. That anything
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that you took from the eighth floor that was
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a object from before collapse would be deleted
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from your inventory. So I would think that it
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would be a same scenario if you did make it onto
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the 11th floor. Possibly. Very possible. Maybe
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you just had psychotic scissors to throw at people.
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The scissors as they scream through the air.
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I'll cut you. I can almost see it like how the
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slug lows are. They just come out of nowhere
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and they're like. Yeah, bitch, take that right
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in the kisser. Which I don't know when we're
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going to talk about this. So let's talk about
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it now. One of the things that I think is really
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cool that I think a lot of people don't pick
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up on is, you know what the Sologalos are supposed
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to be based on, right? Yeah, they're supposed
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to be based on the Juggalos. Yes, but because
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the meeting of the Juggalos is in Detroit. That's
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why the slugalos all really like Imani and are
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super nice to her all the time. And they're like,
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hey, you're 313, which is like their area code.
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That gets asked about a lot online. I did forget
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that the gathering happens in Detroit. If you
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don't know anything about juggalos or the gathering
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of the juggalos, you should look it up. It is
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unhinged. All right. We get into his lawyer offering
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him his final deal, which is as a game guide.
22:28
And in this part, this is wondering, you know,
22:31
what he doesn't even know what the next floor
22:32
is going to be. But he learns that if you get
22:36
a description of the next floor, that it usually
22:38
adds some time to whatever deal you take, you
22:41
know, a season, couple seasons, which in the
22:43
scope of 100 seasons doesn't seem that bad. But
22:46
I do think this is just interesting that they're
22:48
adding this in here because. This chapter not
22:51
only is giving us a lot of insight into who Porthas
22:54
is and what his motivations are, but also is
22:56
giving us some context for how deals work and
23:00
what that process looks like that we're going
23:01
to see at the end of book seven when Carl gets
23:03
his deal. The choice that Porthas ends up taking
23:06
is as a game guide for 100 seasons, which is
23:09
significantly longer than any other deal he's
23:12
given. But why does he take this deal? I mean,
23:16
I think being a game guide does have some benefits
23:19
in that it gives you a long time to kind of understand
23:22
how the universe works, what's going on outside
23:26
the dungeon, if what we see from Mordecai is
23:31
any indication, although he might be more plugged
23:34
in than most. It gives you a lot of time to acclimate
23:37
and build community and figure out what you're
23:40
going to do afterwards. I do think it's really
23:42
interesting that Odette got out. so much earlier
23:46
than chaco and mordecai and like obviously that's
23:50
because she took a deal earlier and she was from
23:52
an earlier season but it's kind of interesting
23:55
that they still know that like she's out there
23:58
she's super successful and you know they still
24:00
have this complicated history with her and they
24:04
still kind of have ways of interacting and like
24:06
poking at each other and like attacking each
24:08
other even though mordecai's still in the dungeon
24:11
Right. And they get the newsletters that talk
24:14
about things happening in the dungeon and outside
24:15
the dungeon. So there is a lot of value in being
24:19
a game guide. And for Porthas, I think his real
24:22
motivation here was his drive to give back, to
24:26
do more and to help future generations of crawlers.
24:30
So he does that in the dungeon. He does that
24:32
through the cookbook. And then he continues doing
24:34
that after he leaves the dungeon. But I think
24:38
it is smarter because like if you're an NPC who's
24:40
just like guarding a castle, like you don't know
24:42
anything. And like, I don't think you're interacting
24:45
with anyone. Like, I don't think you have any
24:47
chance to like build that network or like build
24:49
that base of information. No, I mean, that sounds
24:51
incredibly boring compared to being a game guide.
24:54
Like being a game guide seems kind of fun, honestly.
24:57
I mean, I think in most cases with what we see
25:00
with Mordecai, like they kind of have this expectation.
25:03
that they're going to be helping you out for
25:05
the first couple floors. And then after that,
25:06
they're done for the season. But you know what
25:08
happens with Mordecai, they get the child actor
25:11
perk or class that Jonah takes where he follows
25:14
them forever. And he's pretty pissed off about
25:16
that at first. So Horthis knew immediately that
25:20
when he left the dungeon, he had plans to take
25:23
down the crawl. And he starts the open intellect
25:26
pacifist network. Well, and I think that's interesting
25:30
because I think Carl views that he has to be
25:33
in the dungeon and has to be actively fighting
25:37
to be making an impact or to be changing things.
25:41
And I don't think that point of view changes
25:44
too much throughout this book, but it'll be interesting
25:46
to see if it does later on. Quite probably. One
25:49
of the last things that we wanted to talk about
25:51
is his lawyer gives him the option to take a
25:54
couple of pre -collapse items and some small
25:56
trinkets from his inventory. No weapons or anything
25:59
like that. Brie, what was the note you made about
26:01
this? Basically, they act like this is the most
26:05
magnanimous thing that they've ever done. And
26:07
they're like, oh, well, it's a goodwill gesture
26:10
from us. We want you to have these things because
26:13
we know it's important. And it's like, okay,
26:17
that's what you guys are doing because you're
26:19
so nice. So benevolent. Yeah, you can have like,
26:23
I don't know, your favorite hat from the crawl,
26:26
which would be very important to Donut. I cannot
26:29
imagine her leaving without her tiara. What I
26:33
found interesting with this, though, is this
26:35
gives you the context of why and how Mordecai
26:39
has his mother's ashes and has a picture of his
26:42
brother. And so while this is kind of like, oh,
26:46
we're so nice. Look at how amazing we're being
26:48
to you and letting you have these things. For
26:51
Mordecai, that is extremely important, him being
26:53
able to have his mother's ashes with him. And
26:55
also we see it with some crawlers, but we don't
26:58
really see it that much of like sentimental items
27:00
that crawlers bring into the dungeon with them.
27:03
I think the most prominent example that we see
27:06
of this in the series is actually the ring that
27:08
Quan CH brings into the dungeon with him. And
27:11
when Carl kills him in the Eye of the Bedlam
27:15
Bride, he asked Carl to give it back to him in
27:18
the ring. reads on the inside for daddy and despite
27:21
Kwan being such a terrible person in the dungeon
27:24
you know he says my daughter would be ashamed
27:26
of what I'd become and it's pretty gut -wrenching
27:29
despite him kind of deserving what happened so
27:32
when I did my first read -through of the book
27:35
I was so excited by this chapter. I was so excited
27:40
that there was going to be multiple points of
27:41
view going forward. I was extremely excited that
27:45
it gave the recap at the end that was like, this
27:47
is what his level was when he finished and this
27:50
is where he is now. Because I could tell from
27:54
this chapter that they were going to have other
27:58
chapters from other former crawlers. And I viewed
28:01
that as a game changer and I was so excited about
28:03
it. Yeah, getting to have chapters from other
28:05
crawlers outside of just their excerpts from
28:07
the cookbook is extremely valuable and insightful
28:11
that we see going out throughout this inevitable
28:13
ruin. And at the end of this chapter, it also
28:16
tells you that he is missing and wanted by syndicate
28:20
security, which is a little bit of a teaser for
28:23
what's to come. Because even at this point in
28:27
the books, we still know next to nothing about
28:31
Porthis. Or what the Open Intellect Pacifist
28:34
Network is really doing. Definitely. But I was
28:38
just so excited when I read this chapter because
28:40
I knew that book seven was going to be different
28:42
than the other books. And I really liked the
28:44
direction it was going in. Absolutely. Inevitable
28:47
Ruin does not disappoint. We get some amazing
28:50
chapters from the viewpoint of previous cookbook
28:52
authors like Volteague and Milk throughout. We
28:55
look forward to having you join us for next week's
28:57
episode where we find out what's been happening
28:59
around Earth. How to make shark sushi and learn
29:03
the structure of faction wars. Absolutely. Inevitable
29:06
ruin does not disappoint at all. We get some
29:12
amazing chapters from the viewpoint of previous
29:14
cookbook authors like Volteague and Milk throughout
29:16
the book. With that, we look forward to having
29:19
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29:21
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29:23
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29:27
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