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Islamist Revolution in Syria-What It Means, plus Trump Dominates Meet the Press · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with
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Speaker 2: you and Senator We've got a lot to talk about tonight,
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Speaker 2: including these shocking news coming out of Syria that Assad
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Speaker 2: is gone, He's out of the country, out of power.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: We've seen the Bashar Assad regime toppled this week after
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Speaker 3: a fourteen year civil war. Now Bashar Asad is a
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Speaker 3: cruel and horrible dictator. He's taken refuge in Russia. His
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Speaker 3: falling is a major loss for Russia. It's a major
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Speaker 3: loss for Iran, It's a major loss for Hesbla. All
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Speaker 3: were allies, all are seriously hurt by his falling. But
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Speaker 3: the rebels who have toppled him may well be even worse.
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Speaker 3: It is radical Islamists who have been fighting against him,
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Speaker 3: many of them are remnants of al Qaeda, remnants of
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Speaker 3: the Islamic State, and the people of Syria and Israel
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Speaker 3: in America may soon find that the new leadership is
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Speaker 3: even worse than the old. We're going to break that
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Speaker 3: down in real depth. Beyond that, Donald Trump went on
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Speaker 3: Meet the Press this week. He did, and it sat down,
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Speaker 3: did an extensive interview and laid out a calm, clear
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Speaker 3: vision for coming in, for securing the border, for getting
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Speaker 3: the economy coming back. We're going to break that down
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really an interesting interview, especially to see how
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the last thing, that you said when
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Speaker 2: you were mentioning what has just happened with the sod
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Speaker 2: following This is great news in theory, But I go
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Speaker 2: back to Libya and Gadafi. When Goadafi fell there, there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of people are like, all right, this
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Speaker 2: is great news, and we got rid of a horrible
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Speaker 2: human being. But then the country fell into in essence,
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Speaker 2: civil war and total anarchy and chaos. And that is
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Speaker 2: the big concern here obviously, is that now the remnants
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Speaker 2: of al Qaeda ISIS could actually be in charge of
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Speaker 2: this country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not convinced it's great news at all. Listen,
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Speaker 3: the world is a dangerous place and they're a bad tators.
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Speaker 3: But we've seen a pattern for the past twenty years
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Speaker 3: of Americans supporting people toppling dictators who are fighting terrorists,
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Speaker 3: only to have the terrorists take over and start fighting
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Speaker 3: Americans instead. And my perspective on this is is this
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Speaker 3: good for America or not? I would say at best
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Speaker 3: it is too soon to tell. Let's step back into
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Speaker 3: a little bit of history. Bashar Asad is a dictator.
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Speaker 3: He's a monster. This is a man who used chemical
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Speaker 3: weapons against his own citizens. He's responsible for murdering hundreds
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Speaker 3: of thousands of people. So nobody with any sense defends
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Speaker 3: Bashar Asad. The problem is the rebel groups fighting against him.
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Speaker 3: Many of them may well be worse. Many of them
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Speaker 3: come are connected to al Qaeda, to radical Islamic terrorists,
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Speaker 3: and the challenge is and we saw it, You're right.
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Speaker 3: We saw it in Libya when Kadafi was toppled and
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Speaker 3: we ended up with even worse radical Islamic terrorists taken over.
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Speaker 3: We saw it in Iraq when Sadai Mussein was toppled,
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Speaker 3: and we ended up with even worse radical Islamic terrorists
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Speaker 3: taking over. In this case, the people fighting are our Islamists.
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Speaker 1: That they are.
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Speaker 3: They are remnants of al Qaeda, They are remnants of
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Speaker 3: the Islamic state. And one of the leading Islamist groups
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Speaker 3: who played the critical role in toppling As'ad is Hayat
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Speaker 3: Tarr al Sham HTS, which is a former alffiliate, affiliate
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Speaker 3: of al Qaeda and part of the rebel forces, and
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Speaker 3: the Islamist leader of HTS is Abu Mohammad al Golani.
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Speaker 3: He right now is a ten million dollar bounty on
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Speaker 3: his head from the United States. Now he is trying
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Speaker 3: to the press is describing him as a more moderate
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Speaker 3: radical Islamist. I'm not sure what a more modern radical
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Speaker 3: Islamist is, you know. I think back to twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen, Barack Obama was president, and you remember Barack
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Speaker 3: Obama drew what he called a red line and he said,
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Speaker 3: if Bashar Assad uses chemical weapons, America will respond with force.
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Speaker 3: We will attack it well Asad did use chemical weapons,
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Speaker 3: and Obama came to Congress to ask for Congress's agreement
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Speaker 3: to attack Syria. Now, I'll tell you, at the time,
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Speaker 3: I kept an open mind. I wanted to actually hear
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Speaker 3: the Commander in chief's justification for why attacking Assad's regime
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Speaker 3: was in the US national security interests. And I could
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Speaker 3: imagine a scenario. Listen, Assad had had major chemical weapons caches,
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Speaker 3: that he used chemical weapons against his own people. I
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Speaker 3: can imagine a mission that might make sense to go
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Speaker 3: in and perhaps take out the chemical weapons. I could
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Speaker 3: see that if he could lay out a credible case
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Speaker 3: though chemical weapons could be used against Americans or allies,
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Speaker 3: that's a mission I could see making sense. But at
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Speaker 3: the time, and this is back in twenty fourteen, you
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Speaker 3: had multiple rebel groups affiliated with radical Islamic terrorists al
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Speaker 3: Kaeda al Noustra, and they were fighting. In the question
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Speaker 3: that I asked, and I asked this repeatedly of the
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Speaker 3: Obama administration, both in classified briefings and in public briefings.
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Speaker 3: I said, Okay, if you succeed in toppling ASSAD and
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Speaker 3: the chemical weapons fall into the hands of the radical
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Speaker 3: Islamic terrorists, how is that better for us? How do
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Speaker 3: you prevent the people who take over from being worse
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Speaker 3: than the people who are there right now? And I
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Speaker 3: got to tell you, they had no answer. It was
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Speaker 3: utterly incoherent. At one point, John Kerry was the Secretary
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Speaker 3: of State. He said their objective was to conduct a
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Speaker 3: quote unbelievably small attacks.
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Speaker 1: A press release.
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Speaker 3: Essentially what John Kerry was saying, and the way he
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Speaker 3: justified it is he said, well, by crossing the lines,
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Speaker 3: they violated international norms, so we had to do an
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Speaker 3: unbelievably small attack to register our protests to their violating
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Speaker 3: the international norms. Now, I thought that was completely incoherent.
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Speaker 3: Either the attack would be too small to do anything,
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Speaker 3: in which case, what the hell are we doing? Or
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Speaker 3: it would be strong enough to succeed in toppling Assad,
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Speaker 3: in which case there was a risk of the weapons
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Speaker 3: falling into the hands of our enemies. So I opposed
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Speaker 3: Barack Obama attacking ASAD in twenty fourteen because he could
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Speaker 3: not articulate a clear basis why it was in US
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Speaker 3: national security interest. Now fast forward a decade later, the
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Speaker 3: civil war has waged on and on and on. Now
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Speaker 3: several things have happened. One, Russia is weakened significantly by
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Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. Russia is in a much weaker place.
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Speaker 3: Number two, Iran is in a much weaker place. Israel's
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Speaker 3: war against hamas Hesbela have weakened Iran and Hesbela is
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Speaker 3: in a much weaker place. And so that's one of
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Speaker 3: the factors that I.
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Speaker 1: Explained to people, just so they know.
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Speaker 2: All three of the countries you just mentioned, or I
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Speaker 2: should say terrorist groups and then two countries they were
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Speaker 2: the ones that have been propping up ASAD for the
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Speaker 2: last in essence decade, especially when these rebel forces started
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Speaker 2: gaining in certain parts of the country and Russia came
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Speaker 2: in and said, hey, we got your back.
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Speaker 1: I ran and sayd hey, we got to get back.
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Speaker 2: You've got the terrorist organizations are like, hey, we'll keep
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Speaker 2: you in power, will prop you up. Now they're all distracted,
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Speaker 2: and that's how these rebel groups are able to pull
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Speaker 2: this off this time.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, that all of the groups that were
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Speaker 3: propping a sad up were weaker. And I'll tell you
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Speaker 3: President Trump put out, I think a very good statement
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Speaker 3: in response to this, And here's what Trump wrote on
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Speaker 3: truth social He wrote, quote, Asad is gone, he has
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Speaker 3: fled his country. His protector Russia. Russia. Russia, led by
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Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin, was not interested in protecting him any longer.
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Speaker 3: There was no reason for Russia to be there in
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Speaker 3: the first place. They lost all interest in Syria because
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Speaker 3: of Ukraine, where close to six hundred thousand Russian soldiers
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Speaker 3: lay wounded or dead in a war that should never
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Speaker 3: have started and could go on forever. Russian Iran are
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Speaker 3: in a weakened state right now, one because of Ukraine
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Speaker 3: and a bad economy, and the other because of Israel
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Speaker 3: and its fighting success. Likewise, Zelensky and Ukraine would like
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Speaker 3: to make a deal and stop the madness. They have
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Speaker 3: ridiculously lost four hundred thousand soldiers and many more civilians.
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Speaker 3: There should be an immediate cease fire and negotiations should begin.
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Speaker 3: Trump added, quote, too many lives are being so needlessly wasted,
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Speaker 3: too many families destroyed. And if it keeps going, it
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Speaker 3: can turn into something much bigger and far worse. I know, Vladimir, Well,
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Speaker 3: this is the time to act. China can help. The
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Speaker 3: world is waiting, and I gotta say, I am glad
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Speaker 3: that Trump is expressing caution about what is happening in Syria,
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Speaker 3: and that caution is well founded. The Biden administration they're celebrating,
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Speaker 3: the Biden White House is trying to victory lap this
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Speaker 3: as a great victory for democracy. Well, we'll see. But
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Speaker 3: when you have individuals who have been terrorist for many years,
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Speaker 3: who've been radical Islamists. Look, when the Islamic Revolution happened
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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy nine in Iran, it was a horrible
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Speaker 3: development for the people of Iran. And so is there
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Speaker 3: celebration right now on the streets of Syria. Sure, because
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Speaker 3: Assad was a monster and people are celebrating the toppling
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Speaker 3: of a monster. They also celebrated the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
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Speaker 3: They also celebrated the toppling of Kadafi. They also celebrated
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Speaker 3: the Cuban Revolution in nineteen fifty nine. And we have
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Speaker 3: seen many, many times that revolutions of one oppressive dictator
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Speaker 3: can far too often be replaced by an even worse regime.
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Speaker 3: And so I think this is an exceptionally dangerous time
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Speaker 3: right now, and it is going to be important to
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Speaker 3: do everything we can to prevent chemical weapons from falling
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Speaker 3: into the hands of al Qaeda terrorists who would use
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Speaker 3: them against Americans.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that aspect.
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Speaker 2: And also the White House Fox was reporting and you
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Speaker 2: mentioned a moment ago that Biden seemed to in essence
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Speaker 2: take credit for Assad's downfall, and it was almost like
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Speaker 2: it was, Hey, this is a great victory lap moment
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Speaker 2: for me. I can add this to my resume and
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Speaker 2: say look what I've done. And there was a lot
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Speaker 2: of questions asked. Here's how they reported.
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Speaker 4: It, Hey, lucas well, good evening, doc. A lot changed
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Speaker 4: in the region, it turns out, and President Biden also
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Speaker 4: mentioning this was an historic opportunity in Syria, but cautioned
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Speaker 4: about risk and uncertainty with a US designated terrorist group
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Speaker 4: closing in on Damascus and toppling the Assad regime, and
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Speaker 4: of course, President Biden also seemed to take credit for
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Speaker 4: the assad's downfall.
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Speaker 5: Our approaches shifted the balance of power in the Middle East.
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Speaker 5: This combination of support for our partners, sanctions, diplomacy, and
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Speaker 5: targeted military forcement necessary.
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Speaker 2: You hear that from him, and you're like, Okay, so
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Speaker 2: your foreign policy in the Middle East is screw?
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Speaker 1: Is really any chance you get?
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Speaker 2: But you're wanting to claim now that you're part of
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Speaker 2: what took down a sade And then also saying, now
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Speaker 2: we know that there's a bunch of terrorists that are
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Speaker 2: now going to be in charge of Damascus, but hey,
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Speaker 2: we still think this is a great day.
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Speaker 3: Look, the world is a very dangerous place, and unfortunately
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Speaker 3: people who are enemies of America become stronger and stronger
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Speaker 3: under Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. And when Trump comes into
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Speaker 3: office on January twentieth, he's going to inherit a very
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Speaker 3: dangerous world. But I am comforted our enemies are scared
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Speaker 3: of a strong commander in chief. That's what we need.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
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Speaker 2: Let's move to Donald Trump and this interview that he did,
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Speaker 2: and it was one where I how unflappable he was,
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Speaker 2: and one of those moments in this conversation. It does
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Speaker 2: tie into too what happened in Syria. Was Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: talking about I have stopped wars with tariffs, and they're
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Speaker 2: really trying to hammer him because he's using tariffs as
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Speaker 2: leverage around the world. Right now, He's made it very
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Speaker 2: clear with Canada and the conversations with Trudeau and Mexico
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Speaker 2: and others that he is not going to allow for
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Speaker 2: America to be taken advantage of. I want to get
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Speaker 2: your reaction to this back and forth that he had
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Speaker 2: in this interview with Kristen Welker, who was really trying
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Speaker 2: to rough him up.
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Speaker 6: I'm a big believer in tariffs. I think tariffs are
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Speaker 6: the most beautiful word. I think they're beautiful. It's going
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Speaker 6: to make us rich. We're subsidizing Canada to the tune
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Speaker 6: of over one hundred billion dollars a year, with subsidizing
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Speaker 6: Mexico for almost three hundred billion dollars. We shouldn't be
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Speaker 6: subsit Why are we subsidizing these countries. If we're going
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Speaker 6: to subsidize them, let him become a state. With subsidizing
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Speaker 6: Mexico and with subsidizing Canada, and were subsidizing many countries
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Speaker 6: over the world, and all I want to do is
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Speaker 6: I want to have a level, fast, but fair playing field.
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Speaker 7: Sir, your previous tariffs during your first administration cost Americans
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Speaker 7: some eighty billion dollars, and now you have major companies
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Speaker 7: from Walmart, Blackendecker, AutoZone saying that any tariffs are going
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Speaker 7: to force them to drive up prices for their consumers.
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Speaker 7: How do you make sure that these CEOs that these
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Speaker 7: companies don't in fact pass on the cost of tariffs
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Speaker 7: to their consumers.
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Speaker 6: They cost Americans nothing. They made a great economy for us.
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Speaker 6: They also solve another problem if we were going to
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Speaker 6: have problems having to do with wars and having to
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Speaker 6: do with other things tariffs. I have stopped wars with
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Speaker 6: tariffs by saying, you guys want to fight, it's great,
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Speaker 6: but both of you are going to pay tariffs to
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Speaker 6: the United States at one hundred percent, and they have
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Speaker 6: many purposes. Tariffs if properly used. I don't say you
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Speaker 6: use them like a madman. I say properly used. But
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Speaker 6: it didn't cost this country anything. It made this country money.
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Speaker 6: And we never really got the chance to go all
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Speaker 6: out because we had to fight COVID in the last
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Speaker 6: part and we did it very successfully, and when I
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Speaker 6: handed it over to Biden, the stock market was higher
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Speaker 6: than what it was just previous to COVID coming in
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Speaker 6: was actually higher. Tariffs are a properly used are a
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Speaker 6: very powerful tool, not only economically, but also for getting
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Speaker 6: other things outside of economics.
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Speaker 1: You hear him talk there. It just I love his
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Speaker 1: demeanor number one.
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Speaker 2: And when she's trying to get in, you know, in
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Speaker 2: this fight with him, he's not taking the major saying
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Speaker 2: this is my policy.
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Speaker 1: I have a mandate. The people said they want this,
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Speaker 1: I am going to do this.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's be clear what the mandate is and what
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Speaker 3: it isn't. Donald Trump has a mandate to secure the border, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has a mandate bring our economy back, to
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Speaker 3: bring inflation under control, to bring us back to peace
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Speaker 3: and prosperity. When it comes to tariffs, lit Lissen, Trump's
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Speaker 3: views have been They've covered a wide range. Trump has
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Speaker 3: frequently spoken about his support for tariffs, and this goes
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Speaker 3: back forty years in the nineteen eighties when Reagan was president.
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Speaker 3: Trump was critical of Reagan for being a free trader,
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Speaker 3: and Trump has as long supported tariffs. Now, I will
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Speaker 3: say you know when I am talking right now to
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Speaker 3: all sorts of business leaders in Texas to people across
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Speaker 3: the country. The probably the biggest policy uncertainty they have
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Speaker 3: about what's going to happen the next four years concerns
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Speaker 3: tariffs and what the new administration is going to do.
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Speaker 3: And to be candid, I am not certain. I am
17:51
Speaker 3: not certain what their policies are going to be. I
17:55
Speaker 3: will say there was a lot of substance in how
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Speaker 3: Trump answered that question number one, where he he made
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Speaker 3: the point, look, you don't do tariffs like a madman
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Speaker 3: on everyone. That if you do that, if you impose
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Speaker 3: tariffs on everyone, you are raising costs and raising taxes
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Speaker 3: on the American people, and that that is not a
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Speaker 3: good idea. So I'm glad he is saying that there
18:15
Speaker 3: are some voices in the echo chamber around Trump that
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Speaker 3: would love to see tariffs raised on everyone, and so
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Speaker 3: I'm glad he's saying, no, we're not going to do that.
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Speaker 3: He's also drawing a distinction that I think is important
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Speaker 3: between tariffs used as a batter of economic policy versus
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Speaker 3: tariffs used as leverage to achieve a different policy victory.
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Speaker 3: And I would point in particular to the tariffs that
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Speaker 3: he's threatened on Mexico and Canada of twenty five percent each.
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Speaker 3: And to be clear, what he has said on that
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Speaker 3: when he announced that he was going to do that
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Speaker 3: was he would impose those tariffs unless and the unless
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Speaker 3: it's critical Mexico and Canada both vigorously assessed in securing
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Speaker 3: our borders and stopping the flood of illegal immigrant and
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Speaker 3: that that is using tariffs for a very different purpose,
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Speaker 3: as leverage to move other countries to adopt policies that
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Speaker 3: are in America's interests. And I got to say I
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Speaker 3: strongly approve and agree with using tariffs as a lever,
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Speaker 3: particularly to secure the border. When Trump was president the
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Speaker 3: first time, he used the identical threat a twenty five
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Speaker 3: percent tariff on Mexico to force Mexico to bring them
19:29
Speaker 3: to the table and get them to agree to the
19:31
Speaker 3: Remain in Mexico agreement. And Remain in Mexico was the
19:34
Speaker 3: principal vehicle that produced the plummeting numbers of illegal immigration,
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Speaker 3: that produced the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty
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Speaker 3: five years, because Mexico didn't want those tariffs. As I
19:46
Speaker 3: understand what Trump is saying, he's saying the same thing here,
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Speaker 3: So he is not pledging I don't believe big tariffs
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Speaker 3: on Mexico and Canada going forward as a matter of
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Speaker 3: economic policy what he is saying, and I'll point out
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Speaker 3: that if he were suggesting that that would be directly
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Speaker 3: contrary to the actual policy that he implemented when he
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Speaker 3: was president because he rejected NAFTA, but he negotiated the
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Speaker 3: US Mexico Canada Trade Agreement. In the US Mexico Canada
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Speaker 3: Trade Agreement, which produces a lot of benefits to the
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Speaker 3: United States, a lot of benefits to Texas, was an
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Speaker 3: agreement that President Trump negotiated to get a fairer trading
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Speaker 3: agreement between America and Mexico and Canada. And so when
20:29
Speaker 3: you're talking about tariffs on Mexico and Canada, I understand
20:33
Speaker 3: the President to be saying what he said very explicitly
20:37
Speaker 3: in his public statement, which is that he's using them
20:39
Speaker 3: as leverage to secure the border. Now, more broadly, when
20:44
Speaker 3: it comes to tariffs, I expect the President to be
20:47
Speaker 3: vigorous using tariffs, especially regarding China, and I do think
20:51
Speaker 3: we should be very focused on China. China is the
20:54
Speaker 3: greatest geopolitical threat facing the United States, and I think
20:57
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is clear eyed about that in a way
21:00
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden to the Democrats are not.
21:02
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the border, and there was certainly a
21:06
Speaker 2: pretty intense conversation about what Donald Trumps said he wants
21:10
Speaker 2: to do, and I think the American people actually know
21:13
Speaker 2: what his plan is. The media just doesn't want to
21:16
Speaker 2: accept that he has a mandate to do it.
21:19
Speaker 1: Here is part of that conversation.
21:21
Speaker 7: Let's talk about mass deportation, one of your big agenda items.
21:25
Speaker 7: You've talked about prioritizing people who have criminal histories, correct,
21:28
Speaker 7: but is it your plan to deport everyone who is
21:32
Speaker 7: here illegally over the next four years.
21:34
Speaker 6: Well, I think you have to do it, and it's
21:36
Speaker 6: a it's a very tough thing to do. It's but
21:42
Speaker 6: you have to have you know, you have rules, regulations
21:44
Speaker 6: law as they came in illegally. You know, the people
21:46
Speaker 6: that have been treated very unfairly are the people that
21:48
Speaker 6: have been online for ten years to come into the country.
21:51
Speaker 6: And we're going to make it very easy for people
21:53
Speaker 6: to come in terms of they have to pass the test,
21:56
Speaker 6: they have to be able to tell you what the
21:57
Speaker 6: statue of liberty is they have to tell you a
22:00
Speaker 6: little bit about our country. They have to love our country.
22:02
Speaker 6: They can't come out of prisons. We don't want people
22:04
Speaker 6: that are in for murder. So we had eleven thousand
22:07
Speaker 6: and thirteen thousand, different estimates, thirteen thousand and ninety nine
22:12
Speaker 6: murderers released into our country over the last three years.
22:16
Speaker 6: They're walking down the streets, they're walking next to you
22:19
Speaker 6: and your family, and they're very dangerous.
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Speaker 7: Thirteen thousand figure I think goes back about forty good.
22:24
Speaker 6: No, it doesn't know it's within the three year period.
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Speaker 1: It's during the Biden term.
22:28
Speaker 6: Now that was a fiction that they put that out.
22:30
Speaker 6: This was done by the Border Patrol. It's thirteen thousand
22:33
Speaker 6: and ninety nine, and it's during the Biden period of time.
22:36
Speaker 6: And these are murderers, many of whom murdered more than
22:39
Speaker 6: one person. You don't want those people in this country.
22:43
Speaker 7: But you're saying something, sir, that's significance. I just want
22:46
Speaker 7: to make sure I'm clear, which is that you're saying, yes,
22:48
Speaker 7: you're going to focus on the people with criminal histories,
22:51
Speaker 7: but everyone who's here illegally has to go.
22:53
Speaker 6: I'm saying we have to get the criminals out of
22:56
Speaker 6: our country. We have to get people that were taken
22:59
Speaker 6: out of mental linth institutions and put them back into
23:01
Speaker 6: their mental institution, no matter what country it is. Do
23:04
Speaker 6: you know that Venezuela, their prisons are at the lowest
23:09
Speaker 6: point in terms of emptiness that they've ever been. They're
23:12
Speaker 6: taking their people out of those prisons by the thousands,
23:16
Speaker 6: and their drug and just to get back because they
23:18
Speaker 6: know exactly what you're getting. At number one, we're doing criminals,
23:22
Speaker 6: and we're going to do them really rapidly. We're getting
23:25
Speaker 6: the worst gang probably with MS thirteen and the Venezuelan
23:29
Speaker 6: gangs the worst in the world. They're vicious, violent people,
23:33
Speaker 6: and you see what they've done in Colorado and other places.
23:35
Speaker 6: They're taking over literally taking over apartment complexes and doing
23:40
Speaker 6: it with impunity. They don't care, they couldn't. They just
23:43
Speaker 6: aren't taking They're in the real estate.
23:45
Speaker 7: You know, the local police say that is not the
23:47
Speaker 7: case in Colorado.
23:48
Speaker 1: Oh, it's totally the case. I mean the local point.
23:51
Speaker 1: I play it.
23:52
Speaker 6: I used to play it at my rallies every single night. No,
23:55
Speaker 6: they're breaking into doors, they're taking over the building. And
23:58
Speaker 6: by the way, the police. The police are afraid to
24:01
Speaker 6: do anything.
24:02
Speaker 7: You raise the point that the logistics are complicated, You say.
24:05
Speaker 6: To yourself, what everything's going?
24:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you need twenty four times more iced
24:09
Speaker 7: attention capacity just to deport one million people per year,
24:13
Speaker 7: not to mention more agents, more judges, more planes. Is
24:16
Speaker 7: it realistic to deport everyone who Jewish?
24:20
Speaker 6: First of all, they're costing us a fortune. But we're
24:22
Speaker 6: starting with the criminals and we got to do it,
24:25
Speaker 6: and then we're starting with others, and we're going to
24:28
Speaker 6: see how it goes. The others others are other people.
24:31
Speaker 6: Outside of criminals. We have convicted murders. We don't mean
24:35
Speaker 6: people that are even on trial. We have people that
24:38
Speaker 6: have murdered numerous people are on our streets and in
24:42
Speaker 6: our farms, and we have to get them out of
24:44
Speaker 6: our country.
24:45
Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing to me, center is the fact
24:47
Speaker 2: that Christian Walker there was just like, well, it's this
24:49
Speaker 2: is impossible.
24:50
Speaker 1: You can't do this.
24:51
Speaker 2: So why even act like you can deport around up
24:54
Speaker 2: a bunch of heinous criminals.
24:57
Speaker 1: There's no way you can do this.
24:58
Speaker 2: So let's just admit defeat and say we can't do it,
25:01
Speaker 2: and we can't afford it. I mean, the Biden administration
25:04
Speaker 2: just sent what another billion dollars in funding to Ukraine.
25:09
Speaker 2: Why don't we spend some money here and actually get
25:11
Speaker 2: what we need to get rid of these heinous criminals.
25:13
Speaker 1: I think that's the point he's trying to make.
25:15
Speaker 3: Well, and we're going to see that happen. We are
25:17
Speaker 3: going to see on January twentieth, we're going to see
25:19
Speaker 3: the new administration come in. We're going to see them
25:23
Speaker 3: reverse catch and release immediately. We're going to see them
25:26
Speaker 3: return to building the wall. We're going to see them
25:29
Speaker 3: reinstate the Remain in Mexico agreement. What it is going
25:33
Speaker 3: to mean is that on January twentieth, if you come
25:36
Speaker 3: here illegally and you're apprehended, you will be deported, and
25:39
Speaker 3: we will see the numbers plummet. They'll plummet immediately. The
25:43
Speaker 3: first priority Trump is going to focus on as securing
25:45
Speaker 3: the border itself, and very closely connected to that is
25:48
Speaker 3: going after illegal immigrants, and in particular, as he said repeatedly,
25:52
Speaker 3: starting with the criminal aliens, starting with the convicted murderers,
25:56
Speaker 3: the rapist, the child molest starting with the Venezuelan gangs.
26:00
Speaker 3: Start starting with with with the most dangerous illegal immigrants.
26:04
Speaker 3: And you know, Welker was saying, well, gosh, this is
26:05
Speaker 3: going to be expensive, it's going to take a lot
26:07
Speaker 3: of resources. I'm going to hold onto that clip that's
26:10
Speaker 3: going to be valuable because you know what Congress is
26:12
Speaker 3: going to We are going to take up and pass
26:14
Speaker 3: a reconciliation bill. We're going to do it early in
26:18
Speaker 3: this next year that it's going to provide funding to
26:21
Speaker 3: enable US to secure the border. We're going to get
26:23
Speaker 3: it done. And I think Trump was very matter of
26:25
Speaker 3: fact laying out this is a mandate from the American people.
26:28
Speaker 3: He intends to do it, and I intend to work
26:31
Speaker 3: hand in hand with him to make sure it gets done.
26:34
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you real quick about the USCCA,
26:37
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26:46
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26:59
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27:01
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27:03
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27:06
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27:09
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27:13
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27:16
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28:20
Speaker 2: It was a very interesting trip. He was meeting with
28:23
Speaker 2: world leaders. And one of the things that I thought
28:26
Speaker 2: was really interesting about this trip was social media reacted
28:30
Speaker 2: to Trump's just dominating force and the clear contrast between
28:36
Speaker 2: how world leaders were interacting with him compared to Joe
28:40
Speaker 2: Biden in this administration. There was an interesting handshake when
28:46
Speaker 2: there was a meeting in France as well. I'm sure
28:48
Speaker 2: you saw some of this on social media and on
28:50
Speaker 2: the news. I want to get your reaction to even
28:53
Speaker 2: Macron and their handshake. It was like it was like
28:56
Speaker 2: a fist, like hey, we're back, bros. Good to see you.
29:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:01
Speaker 3: Look, I mean Donald Trump shakes hands like a man,
29:04
Speaker 3: and when it came to Macrone, he shook hands in
29:08
Speaker 3: a way that was a dominating way to shake hands.
29:11
Speaker 3: Mcrone was nervous, he was uneasy, he wasn't sure what
29:14
Speaker 3: to do.
29:15
Speaker 6: Now.
29:15
Speaker 3: Macrone's own political situation in France is incredibly tenuous, and
29:19
Speaker 3: listen the contrast Macrone has been kissing up to Biden
29:23
Speaker 3: like crazy Biden when he interacts with Macrone and every
29:26
Speaker 3: other world leader interacts from a position of weakness. None
29:30
Speaker 3: of them are afraid of him, none of them, none
29:32
Speaker 3: of them are worried about what he might do. You know,
29:34
Speaker 3: you look at that at our southern border. I'm reminded
29:37
Speaker 3: we did a podcast I don't know about a year
29:40
Speaker 3: year and a half ago where we played Amlo, then
29:42
Speaker 3: the president of Mexico, standing next to Joe Biden and
29:46
Speaker 3: just crowing how he's the only president in our lifetimes
29:51
Speaker 3: who has not built even one meter of wall or
29:55
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29:59
Speaker 3: like a goofy fool while Amloe is saying, well, look
30:02
Speaker 3: this guy, we can just run all over. Well we
30:05
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30:09
Speaker 3: that foreign leaders are going to run all over and
30:10
Speaker 3: so so that is uh that that that is a
30:14
Speaker 3: powerful demonstration of the simple fact that America is back.
30:18
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