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- 0:25Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Good Friday morning. Nice to have you with us in
- 0:31Speaker 3: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got one massive
- 0:33Speaker 3: story for you. The Trump administration has just announced that
- 0:38Speaker 3: they're requiring all fifty states to explain their plans to
- 0:43Speaker 3: revalidate Medicare and medicate providers. This after massive fraud has
- 0:49Speaker 3: been exposed in many cities and states around the country.
- 0:53Speaker 3: How much money is it costing you? Billions? And we'll
- 0:57Speaker 3: break it down for you. All right, I want to
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- 2:33Speaker 3: forty seven morning update and it starts right now.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Story number one.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Doctor Oz working obviously with President Donald Trump to put
- 2:42Speaker 3: all fifty governors now on notice. Why I'm over literally
- 2:48Speaker 3: billions of dollars loss to medicaid fraud. Not only is
- 2:53Speaker 3: he putting them on notice, but he's giving the governors
- 2:56Speaker 3: now ten days to verify enrollment data after officials were
- 3:03Speaker 3: able to easily identify more than a billion in unaccounted
- 3:08Speaker 3: for funds alone. Now the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid
- 3:14Speaker 3: Services CMS, the administrator in charge, Doctor Oz said he's
- 3:19Speaker 3: no longer going to allow this to work the way
- 3:21Speaker 3: that it's been working in the past, putting all state
- 3:24Speaker 3: leaders that includes Republican governors, on notice that they better
- 3:29Speaker 3: root out the rampant fraud in each of their states.
- 3:33Speaker 3: He directed them in this letter on Thursday to take
- 3:37Speaker 3: immediate action within days to identify and to remove non
- 3:42Speaker 3: compliant medicaid providers, saying this corrupt individuals and organizations masquer
- 3:49Speaker 3: rating as healthcare providers are defrauding Medicaid and American taxpayers
- 3:56Speaker 3: of billions of dollars each year, placing valuable resources out
- 4:01Speaker 3: of reach for those the program was truly intended to serve.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Doctor Oz went on to say low income, senior citizens, children,
- 4:11Speaker 3: and disabled individuals, classes of providers with less rigorous enrollment
- 4:16Speaker 3: standards are the problem. Doctor Oz, in the letter also
- 4:21Speaker 3: went on to say that all of the nation's fifty
- 4:23Speaker 3: governors must comply. Now. Oz has said, you've got ten
- 4:29Speaker 3: business days, in other words, two weeks to tell cms
- 4:33Speaker 3: whether they will commit to conducting a swift revalidation of
- 4:38Speaker 3: high risks Medicaid providers and provide a proposed timetable alongside
- 4:44Speaker 3: a separate thirty day deadline for a broader provider revalidation strategy,
- 4:51Speaker 3: escalating federal pressure on each state to tighten anti fraud enforcement.
- 4:57Speaker 3: What is very clear from what doctor Oz has said
- 5:00Speaker 3: is this is not just a liberal state problem any longer.
- 5:04Speaker 3: There probably is major fraud in every state in America.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Oz said it is urgent that the action be taken immediately,
- 5:14Speaker 3: and failure, he says, to commit to the revalidation plan
- 5:19Speaker 3: will be considered as we evaluate the likelihood of fraud
- 5:23Speaker 3: in each state moving forward. Now, states must also submit
- 5:28Speaker 3: within thirty days a broader two year strategy outlining how
- 5:32Speaker 3: they will review healthcare providers for legitimacy as well as compliance.
- 5:38Speaker 3: The letter sent to the fifty governors all contain the
- 5:41Speaker 3: same information directions. No one got one letter different than another,
- 5:47Speaker 3: and even states that we know have been actively working
- 5:50Speaker 3: to root out fraud are still on notice across the board.
- 5:54Speaker 3: While the factors contributing to fraud are multifaceted and require
- 5:58Speaker 3: a comprehensive of approach to address, doctor Oz wrote, a
- 6:03Speaker 3: revalidation process for the high risk providers will immediately deter
- 6:08Speaker 3: criminal actors from continuing their fraud schemes as the federal
- 6:13Speaker 3: and state governments closely review and scrutinize the qualifications of
- 6:18Speaker 3: providers to suspend or terminate clearly abuse of actors from
- 6:23Speaker 3: the program.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Now.
- 6:25Speaker 3: These letters target providers that are described as high risk
- 6:28Speaker 3: of waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption, particularly those with less
- 6:34Speaker 3: rigorous enrollment and billing requirements, with CMS directing those states
- 6:39Speaker 3: to include any provider operating without a national provider identifier. Now.
- 6:46Speaker 3: A second letter was also sent out to each state's
- 6:49Speaker 3: Medicaid director, reiterating the call for a revalidation strategy tailored
- 6:56Speaker 3: to each state individually, saying this, our analysis of national
- 7:01Speaker 3: trends strongly suggests a persistent and growing medicaid threat that
- 7:06Speaker 3: is posed by sophisticated actors knowingly exploiting these complex systems
- 7:12Speaker 3: to financial gain. Now, their proposals must include a methodology
- 7:18Speaker 3: and a timeline for off cycle provider revalidation with an
- 7:22Speaker 3: emphasis they say, on high risk providers and those without
- 7:26Speaker 3: the MPIs metrics to measure effectiveness in progress, including public
- 7:32Speaker 3: reporting processes for ongoing verification of provider information, and strategies
- 7:38Speaker 3: they say, to ensure consistency and accuracy of provider data
- 7:43Speaker 3: across fee for service and managed care systems, they say,
- 7:47Speaker 3: including oversight of managed care directories and coordination with relevant
- 7:53Speaker 3: law enforcement partners. Now, the last part of that statement
- 7:56Speaker 3: is what matters to you as a taxpayer? Relevant law
- 7:59Speaker 3: end enforcement partners coordination? Why do they say that, Well,
- 8:04Speaker 3: it's very clear medicaid fraud has been a particular interest
- 8:08Speaker 3: to the Trump administration given the massive fraud scandals that
- 8:12Speaker 3: we've already witnessed in Minnesota and California, and this push
- 8:16Speaker 3: for every state now comes a bit heightened focus on
- 8:19Speaker 3: these large scale fraud cases that included the two hundred
- 8:23Speaker 3: and fifty million, for example, for Feeding our Future scheme,
- 8:27Speaker 3: which became a national flashpoint after servicing in twenty twenty
- 8:31Speaker 3: two and has led to a wave of convictions in
- 8:34Speaker 3: recent years. Now, a separate state commission review of Minnesota's
- 8:38Speaker 3: Medicare program this year identified vulnerabilities across fourteen high risk
- 8:45Speaker 3: services and estimated that up to one point seven billion
- 8:51Speaker 3: in payments over four years were probably improper, findings that
- 8:56Speaker 3: have intensified federal scrutinies and calls for even more reforms.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Now you also asked the question, how the hell do
- 9:04Speaker 3: we send one point seven billion in payments to fraud
- 9:08Speaker 3: in one state? Clearly these numbers were outside the norms
- 9:12Speaker 3: for the nation, and this is why you know the
- 9:15Speaker 3: Democrats deliberately look the other way. Why would they do
- 9:18Speaker 3: it because the same fraudsters that were stealing your tax
- 9:21Speaker 3: dollars were giving some of that money back in campaign
- 9:24Speaker 3: contributions aid in support to liberals that were elected officials.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Now we also are learning this CMS is also weighing
- 9:34Speaker 3: Medicaid deferrals in states including California and New York and Maine,
- 9:40Speaker 3: signaling potential legal battles as federal and state officials are
- 9:43Speaker 3: now clashing over enforcement that's not being done by many
- 9:48Speaker 3: radicals on the left. Now, this goes back to one
- 9:51Speaker 3: of the core points from President Trump's campaign. He was
- 9:54Speaker 3: going to root out waste, fraud, and abuse. And what
- 9:59Speaker 3: we're witnessing right now is it's not just liberal states
- 10:03Speaker 3: where they're focusing. This is now a mandate to every
- 10:07Speaker 3: governor of every state because what they realize is there
- 10:11Speaker 3: are too many bad actors out there. Many of them
- 10:14Speaker 3: may be committing fraud in conservative states. And that's exactly
- 10:18Speaker 3: why the President and doctor Oz are now using law
- 10:21Speaker 3: enforcement and the power of the purse to say you
- 10:24Speaker 3: want federal dollars, you better be in compliance.
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